Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IAccessible2_2 inherits from IAccessible
Hi Pete and all, I can't remember whether this has been covered before, but I think completely replacing IAccessible2 with IAccessible2_2 rather than just extending will make life very difficult for both AT and app developers alike. I understand that it'd be nice to clean up IAccessible2 by removing deprecated methods and parameters. However, the reality is that IAccessible2_2 isn't going to be implemented by every vendor overnight and we will still need to deal with IAccessible2 in older versions of apps even if/once it is. With the current IAccessible2_2 approach, every vendor will have to implement all of the duplicated methods twice, once for IAccessible2 and once for IAccessible2_2. It essentially has to be treated as a new API even though most of the methods are the same. The deprecated methods in IAccessible2 obviously still need to be marked as deprecated. I think IAccessible2_2 should just contain the new methods. Whether it inherits from IAccessible2 is an open question and doesn't matter as much. I think this would make sense, but I'm happy either way. Thoughts? Jamie On 8/09/2012 10:43 AM, Pete Brunet wrote: I am creating IAccessible2_2 to make some changes: - add accessibleWithCaret - add relationTargetsOfType - remove nRelations/relation/relations - add attribute // return object attribute by name - remove unused [in] parameter on extendedStates and localizedExtendedStates I could also change this to remove the unneeded inheritance from IAccessible, but that might cause too much work for those reworking code from IAccessible2. Is that true? Pete -- *Pete Brunet* a11ysoft - Accessibility Architecture and Development (512) 467-4706 (work), (512) 689-4155 (cell) Skype: pete.brunet IM: ptbrunet (AOL, Google), ptbru...@live.com (MSN) http://www.a11ysoft.com/about/ Ionosphere: WS4G ___ Accessibility-ia2 mailing list Accessibility-ia2@lists.linuxfoundation.org https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/accessibility-ia2 -- James Teh Director, NV Access Limited Email: ja...@nvaccess.org Web site: http://www.nvaccess.org/ Phone: +61 7 5667 8372 ___ Accessibility-ia2 mailing list Accessibility-ia2@lists.linuxfoundation.org https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/accessibility-ia2
Re: [Accessibility-ia2] ia2_api_all.idl
Hi Pete, Unfortunately, I don't think this is a good idea. Many apps and ATs will still need to support the old interfaces for quite some time, so having them excluded from the merged IDL isn't an option. Thanks, Jamie On 11/09/2012 1:39 AM, Pete Brunet wrote: I was getting some errors when using ia2_api_all.idl (the merged API file) and to fix it I removed all the IDL files that have been deprecated, i.e. IA2, IATable, IAText, and IAHypertext which have been replaced with IA2_2, IATable2, IAText2, and IAHypertext2. Is that OK? With some more work I'm sure I could fix this if it's a problem but I don't want to spend the time if those old IDL files aren't needed in the merged IDL file. Pete -- *Pete Brunet* a11ysoft - Accessibility Architecture and Development (512) 467-4706 (work), (512) 689-4155 (cell) Skype: pete.brunet IM: ptbrunet (AOL, Google), ptbru...@live.com (MSN) http://www.a11ysoft.com/about/ Ionosphere: WS4G ___ Accessibility-ia2 mailing list Accessibility-ia2@lists.linuxfoundation.org https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/accessibility-ia2 -- James Teh Director, NV Access Limited Email: ja...@nvaccess.org Web site: http://www.nvaccess.org/ Phone: +61 7 5667 8372 ___ Accessibility-ia2 mailing list Accessibility-ia2@lists.linuxfoundation.org https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/accessibility-ia2
[Accessibility-ia2] ia2_api_all.idl
I was getting some errors when using ia2_api_all.idl (the merged API file) and to fix it I removed all the IDL files that have been deprecated, i.e. IA2, IATable, IAText, and IAHypertext which have been replaced with IA2_2, IATable2, IAText2, and IAHypertext2. Is that OK? With some more work I'm sure I could fix this if it's a problem but I don't want to spend the time if those old IDL files aren't needed in the merged IDL file. Pete -- *Pete Brunet* a11ysoft - Accessibility Architecture and Development (512) 467-4706 (work), (512) 689-4155 (cell) Skype: pete.brunet IM: ptbrunet (AOL, Google), ptbru...@live.com (MSN) http://www.a11ysoft.com/about/ Ionosphere: WS4G ___ Accessibility-ia2 mailing list Accessibility-ia2@lists.linuxfoundation.org https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/accessibility-ia2
Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Getting the document accessible
The new IDL for version 1.3 is pretty much ready to go. The only thing I haven't done is to add the 4 relations: IA2_RELATION_CONTAINING_DOCUMENT IA2_RELATION_CONTAINING_TAB IA2_RELATION_CONTAINING_WINDOW IA2_RELATION_CONTAINING_APPLICATION Is there an issue with plugin container or can that be handled via getting the parent? Pete On 9/9/12 3:13 AM, James Teh wrote: > On 8/09/2012 10:14 AM, Alexander Surkov wrote: >> We had an issue with plugins (find a plugin container from plugin) but >> new relation might not be a fix here. Jamie? > I don't believe a new relation is the correct solution. The plugin > container really should be the parent of the plugin. > > Jamie ___ Accessibility-ia2 mailing list Accessibility-ia2@lists.linuxfoundation.org https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/accessibility-ia2
