Re: [AI] Members pl take note of using blind in communication

2006-11-14 Thread Amiyo Biswas
Yes, different departments use different words and we have to go with them.

In Bengali we use the word "dristihin" for quite a few years and now it is
used in all sorts of novels, stories and newspaper articles. "aangshik
dristihin" is used to denote partially sighted. It does not make things
pleasant. But the old Bengali word "andha" also means "blind to the outside
world". It also means, as in English, "insensitive". You must be familiar
with the expressions like "blind fury" or "blind in affection". The English
words like "sightless" (which we use in Kolkata) or "visually challenged" at
least does not have this type of undesirable connotation.

Best regards,

Amiyo.

Cell: +91-9433464329


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From: "BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 11:28 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Members pl take note of using blind in communication


> you just bring a certificate and put it on railway counter, it should be
> certified as "visually impaired" not as "completely blind", you won't get
> any ticket. thanks.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Ketan Kothari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 11:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Members pl take note of using blind in communication
>
>
> > Dear Members,
> >
> > I think I am blind and not visually challenged.  As far as politeness is
> > concerned, we are taken up by these clichaes and let the reality go by.
I
> > think the word "blind" explains my total lack of sight than any other
> > word.
> > besides.  What would you call a short man/woman?  vertically challenged?
> > I
> > feel we would do well by facing the reality.  I would say if at all all
> > the
> > disabled are attitudinally challenged.  We educated people who are blind
> > should not run away from the fact of our blindness.  Let me reiterate I
am
> > not ashamed of being blind and would not like to sugar quote my
situation.
> >
> > Friends, I started as "blind" then "visually handicapped" then "visually
> > disabled" and then again "visually challenged"  but at the enc of the
day
> > I
> > am still beaten up as "blind agitators"  hahaha.  words became polite
but
> > no
> > change in attitude.  So friend, this group is a group of learned members
> > and
> > I look at all of you as realists and not a clichaed group So let us call
a
> > spade a spade.  Let us not be taken up by Americans.
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Rajani G" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 8:41 AM
> > Subject: [AI] Members pl take note of using blind in communication
> >
> >
> >> Dear members,
> >> I hope many of you on the list agree with me that it is better that we
> >> atleast do not or stop using the word Blind and start using visually
> >> challenged in our conversation.  I feel the phrase is more polite and
> >> doesnot hurt the feelings who are visually challenged.
> >> let us try to use it in our communication.
> >> Rajani
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[AI] Information Wanted on Police Lathi Charge on Sightless Demonstrators in Mumbai.

2006-11-14 Thread Amiyo Biswas
Hello everybody, Yesterday we read in the Anandabazar Patrika, a Bengali daily 
of Kolkata, that a large number of sightless demonstrators gathered at the Azad 
Maidan in Mumbai demanding Maharashtra government's discriminatory attitude 
towards totally blind candidates in recruitment. They wanted to meet the Chief 
Minister and his deputy, in return the police resorted to severe lathi charge 
and arrested sixty demonstrators.

Can anybody in Mumbai supply more details on it? I know Kanchan was doing 
something about it on behalf of NAB. Which organisation arranged the protest 
movement? We are thinking of writing to the Maharashtra CM and the President of 
India about it from BPA. We shall also request NAB, Kolkata to do so. We must 
stand united against any such police atrocities.

I would also need the address of the CM and the Governor of Maharashtra.

Please help.


Best regards,

Amiyo.

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[AI] google new face

2006-11-14 Thread Dinesh Kaushal
I just noticed, that we can navigate in google results using headings, this 
will be faster than earlier, not sure if it is some accessibility initiative 
or just a regular redesign.

But it is better.


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Re: [AI] Use disability not handicap

2006-11-14 Thread Abhijit Joshi
you are very much aware that truth is truth. If you feel that you are 
hurting with the word "blind" then you have no capacity to bear the truth. 
If you feel that slow poisen can not harm anybody then it's OK but if you 
think it does then it is better that you become lord shiva to take it
Abhijit
Hyderabad
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To: 
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 8:51 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Use disability not handicap


> Hi,
> Sorry, if I have taken your valuable time for this subject.  my only
> intention was that if we have more refined words, why not use them if
> it describews our condition in a polite way and not hurt our feelings.
> if we have achieved something inspite of our limitation, why we
> should cling on to the limitation.  why not break out of it and say
> that the disability is of mind and not any physical part.  I
> personally feel better we be polite amongst ourselves, so that we can
> expect that from general public.  Of course, it is my opinion and not
> necessary that it should be taken.
> Regards,
> Rajani
>
> On 11/14/06, shobhan singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> No doubt, we are blind and using the word "blind" do not produce any
>> negative effect. But we should not use the word: "handicap" while 
>> defining
>> any of the disability whether it is visual or physical.
>> Because the word "handicap" derives from the phrase "cap in hand" 
>> referring
>> to a beggar, and is despised by most people with disabilities.
>> Regards
>>
>> Shobhan Singh
>> Programme: PHD (Modern Indian History)
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Re: [AI] conversion to braille

2006-11-14 Thread BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA
no!

- Original Message - 
From: "Subramani L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Chetan Sharma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 

Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 12:28 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] conversion to braille


> In the same way, are there services to scan books?
>
> Subramani
>
> -Original Message-
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> Sharma
> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 11:19 AM
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>
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> Hi rajesh,
>
> You can also contact Mr. J.L. Kaul, Secretary General, All India
> confederation of the Blind, delhi for this purpose. I am not sure of
> their
> charges,  Mr. Kaul's cell # is 9810684208. They are exceptionally
> puntual in
> delivering Braille Books.
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Chetan Sharma
> - Original Message - 
> From: "rajesh asudani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "accessindia" 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 11:55 PM
> Subject: [AI] conversion to braille
>
>
>> Friends
>>
>> I need to convert a few books in e text into Braille for a friend of
> mine.
>> I feel NAB Delhi can do it, but would appreciate details from the
>> concerned: like time taken and charges, and format in which e text has
> to
>> be sent and where etc. I have written to NAB library but am yet to
> receive
>> response. I believe Mr. Mukesh Sharma is associated with the project.
>> Sorry for  using this forum as the matter is urgent.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Rajesh.
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Re: [AI] conversion to braille

2006-11-14 Thread Aruni Sharma
Hi subramani, you can contact RSVI Lucknow for scanning and eTexxt 
preparation. The contact persons are dr. Jain. ph: 05223019456, mob: 
9336787900 and 9415787900. Aruni Sharma at 9305106004. We have set up a 
studio with all advanced facilities for scanning, EText dan daisy 
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Subramani L wrote:
> In the same way, are there services to scan books?
>
> Subramani
>
> -Original Message-
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> Sharma
> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 11:19 AM
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> Hi rajesh,
>
> You can also contact Mr. J.L. Kaul, Secretary General, All India 
> confederation of the Blind, delhi for this purpose. I am not sure of
> their 
> charges,  Mr. Kaul's cell # is 9810684208. They are exceptionally
> puntual in 
> delivering Braille Books.
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Chetan Sharma
> - Original Message - 
> From: "rajesh asudani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "accessindia" 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 11:55 PM
> Subject: [AI] conversion to braille
>
>
>   
>> Friends
>>
>> I need to convert a few books in e text into Braille for a friend of
>> 
> mine. 
>   
>> I feel NAB Delhi can do it, but would appreciate details from the 
>> concerned: like time taken and charges, and format in which e text has
>> 
> to 
>   
>> be sent and where etc. I have written to NAB library but am yet to
>> 
> receive 
>   
>> response. I believe Mr. Mukesh Sharma is associated with the project. 
>> Sorry for  using this forum as the matter is urgent.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Rajesh.
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Re: [AI] Eyeway: Yeh Hai Roshni Ka Karawan - feedback solicited

2006-11-14 Thread shobhan singh
This is not the matter of simply saying because each and every programme 
nedds a proper research. On the contrary, you are simplying the matter by 
saying that we should simply tell you what programme we want to listen. I 
think this is not the solution. We must have proper discussion.
Regards

Shobhan Singh
Programme: PHD (Modern Indian History)
Room # 019
Brahmaputra Hostel
Jawaharlal Nehru University
Contact # 91-09313468732
SKYPE ID: shobhan_foucault
- Original Message - 
From: "Kaja, Kiran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Eyeway: Yeh Hai Roshni Ka Karawan - feedback solicited


>I would advise members to put forward concrete suggestions and ideas.
> Instead of just saying, the program producers should cover  more issues
> or not doing enough, we are hear to tell them what we think should be
> included in the program. For instance, students from DU and JNU should
> tell the producers what programs they would like to hear. Simply saying
> we need programs about DU and JNU is not going to help them make any
> decisions.
>
> Regards,
> Kiran.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of shobhan
> singh
> Sent: Wednesday, 15 November 2006 10:31 AM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] Eyeway: Yeh Hai Roshni Ka Karawan - feedback solicited
>
> I am a regular listener of this programme and appreciate efforts made by
>
> eyeway foundation to uncover talents. But it really seems that locus of
> the
> programme is gyrating around if not around one particular institution,
> this
> is really limited to few particular issues. However, importance of
> issues
> like personality development, home-science and mobility etc. cannot be
> put
> aside, but now, since this programme has already completed fifty
> episodes,
> it really requires a change, in terms of newly emerging social and
> political
> issues. Because issues so far have been included in this programme being
>
> concerned since a long time short type of media coverage.
>
> Significantly, last fifty-two episodes have also potraid an image of
> visually challenge man or woman as a hero, like other TV or newspaper's
> clippings That is, being a blind man or woman, he or she can do this and
>
> that. Why is it so? Why are we still agitating to live in stage of
> natural
> immediacy? I think we should move out of this stage and must prepare our
>
> self for the next stage where we must think about our identity and
> social
> relations and its acceptance that so far has not been addressed in this
> programme.
>
> Finally, as you have asked to Viraj that "Can you please specify what
> kind
> of issues of the blind students in DU and JNU you are referring to."
>
> Of course, your interviewers have never contacted or visited to
> university
> student community. I still don't say that visually or physically
> challenged
> people should only interview for celebrating their achievements or
> success.
> Hence, I think there are thousands of visually challenged man and woman,
>
> must be entertain through this programme, who are being exploited by
> using
> different technologies of power in number of so-called NGOS for welfare
> of
> visually challenged or institutions or welfare societies. We have number
> of
> issue needs to give attention. We need to bring into light to those
> people
> who on the name of blind people are earning in Dollars, signifying to
> corruption which day-to-day increasing. We need to focus on the living
> conditions being provided by these rehabilitation centers and need to
> analyse governmental policies, which is one of the responsible factor
> for
> such condition of our people.
>
> With regards
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Shobhan Singh
> Programme: PHD (Modern Indian History)
> Room # 019
> Brahmaputra Hostel
> Jawaharlal Nehru University
> Contact # 91-09313468732
> SKYPE ID: shobhan_foucault
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Pranay Gadodia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 12:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Eyeway: Yeh Hai Roshni Ka Karawan - feedback solicited
>
>
>> Hi Viraj,
>> Can you please specify what kind of issues of the blind students in DU
> and
>> JNU you are referring to. On the radio programme we have always been
>> inviting queries and problems faced by blind people. Many have
> contacted
>> us
>> and we have tried to give them the relevant information and connected
> them
>> to the specific service providers.
>>
>> Since you have not been a regular listener, for your and others
>> information,
>> in the 52 episodes of our radio show we have kept our focus on -
>> - diseminating positive news items among visually impaired people.
>> - in the interview section calling a successful blind person or
> someone
>> who
>> has contributed towards the empowerment of blind people. Again the
>> objective
>> is to inform and inspire blind people and educate the society in
> general.

Re: [AI] conversion to braille

2006-11-14 Thread Subramani L
In the same way, are there services to scan books?

Subramani

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Hi rajesh,

You can also contact Mr. J.L. Kaul, Secretary General, All India 
confederation of the Blind, delhi for this purpose. I am not sure of
their 
charges,  Mr. Kaul's cell # is 9810684208. They are exceptionally
puntual in 
delivering Braille Books.

Regards,


Chetan Sharma
- Original Message - 
From: "rajesh asudani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "accessindia" 
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 11:55 PM
Subject: [AI] conversion to braille


> Friends
>
> I need to convert a few books in e text into Braille for a friend of
mine. 
> I feel NAB Delhi can do it, but would appreciate details from the 
> concerned: like time taken and charges, and format in which e text has
to 
> be sent and where etc. I have written to NAB library but am yet to
receive 
> response. I believe Mr. Mukesh Sharma is associated with the project. 
> Sorry for  using this forum as the matter is urgent.
>
> Regards
>
> Rajesh.
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Re: [AI] Members pl take note of using blind in communication

2006-11-14 Thread BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA
you just bring a certificate and put it on railway counter, it should be 
certified as "visually impaired" not as "completely blind", you won't get 
any ticket. thanks.

- Original Message - 
From: "Ketan Kothari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 11:01 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Members pl take note of using blind in communication


> Dear Members,
>
> I think I am blind and not visually challenged.  As far as politeness is
> concerned, we are taken up by these clichaes and let the reality go by.  I
> think the word "blind" explains my total lack of sight than any other 
> word.
> besides.  What would you call a short man/woman?  vertically challenged? 
> I
> feel we would do well by facing the reality.  I would say if at all all 
> the
> disabled are attitudinally challenged.  We educated people who are blind
> should not run away from the fact of our blindness.  Let me reiterate I am
> not ashamed of being blind and would not like to sugar quote my situation.
>
> Friends, I started as "blind" then "visually handicapped" then "visually
> disabled" and then again "visually challenged"  but at the enc of the day 
> I
> am still beaten up as "blind agitators"  hahaha.  words became polite but 
> no
> change in attitude.  So friend, this group is a group of learned members 
> and
> I look at all of you as realists and not a clichaed group So let us call a
> spade a spade.  Let us not be taken up by Americans.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Rajani G" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 8:41 AM
> Subject: [AI] Members pl take note of using blind in communication
>
>
>> Dear members,
>> I hope many of you on the list agree with me that it is better that we
>> atleast do not or stop using the word Blind and start using visually
>> challenged in our conversation.  I feel the phrase is more polite and
>> doesnot hurt the feelings who are visually challenged.
>> let us try to use it in our communication.
>> Rajani
>>
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Re: [AI] conversion to braille

2006-11-14 Thread Chetan Sharma
Hi rajesh,

You can also contact Mr. J.L. Kaul, Secretary General, All India 
confederation of the Blind, delhi for this purpose. I am not sure of their 
charges,  Mr. Kaul's cell # is 9810684208. They are exceptionally puntual in 
delivering Braille Books.

Regards,


Chetan Sharma
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Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 11:55 PM
Subject: [AI] conversion to braille


> Friends
>
> I need to convert a few books in e text into Braille for a friend of mine. 
> I feel NAB Delhi can do it, but would appreciate details from the 
> concerned: like time taken and charges, and format in which e text has to 
> be sent and where etc. I have written to NAB library but am yet to receive 
> response. I believe Mr. Mukesh Sharma is associated with the project. 
> Sorry for  using this forum as the matter is urgent.
>
> Regards
>
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Re: [AI] Eyeway: Yeh Hai Roshni Ka Karawan - feedback solicited

2006-11-14 Thread Kaja, Kiran
I would advise members to put forward concrete suggestions and ideas.
Instead of just saying, the program producers should cover  more issues
or not doing enough, we are hear to tell them what we think should be
included in the program. For instance, students from DU and JNU should
tell the producers what programs they would like to hear. Simply saying
we need programs about DU and JNU is not going to help them make any
decisions.

Regards,
Kiran.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of shobhan
singh
Sent: Wednesday, 15 November 2006 10:31 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Eyeway: Yeh Hai Roshni Ka Karawan - feedback solicited

I am a regular listener of this programme and appreciate efforts made by

eyeway foundation to uncover talents. But it really seems that locus of
the 
programme is gyrating around if not around one particular institution,
this 
is really limited to few particular issues. However, importance of
issues 
like personality development, home-science and mobility etc. cannot be
put 
aside, but now, since this programme has already completed fifty
episodes, 
it really requires a change, in terms of newly emerging social and
political 
issues. Because issues so far have been included in this programme being

concerned since a long time short type of media coverage.

Significantly, last fifty-two episodes have also potraid an image of 
visually challenge man or woman as a hero, like other TV or newspaper's 
clippings That is, being a blind man or woman, he or she can do this and

that. Why is it so? Why are we still agitating to live in stage of
natural 
immediacy? I think we should move out of this stage and must prepare our

self for the next stage where we must think about our identity and
social 
relations and its acceptance that so far has not been addressed in this 
programme.

Finally, as you have asked to Viraj that "Can you please specify what
kind 
of issues of the blind students in DU and JNU you are referring to."

Of course, your interviewers have never contacted or visited to
university 
student community. I still don't say that visually or physically
challenged 
people should only interview for celebrating their achievements or
success. 
Hence, I think there are thousands of visually challenged man and woman,

must be entertain through this programme, who are being exploited by
using 
different technologies of power in number of so-called NGOS for welfare
of 
visually challenged or institutions or welfare societies. We have number
of 
issue needs to give attention. We need to bring into light to those
people 
who on the name of blind people are earning in Dollars, signifying to 
corruption which day-to-day increasing. We need to focus on the living 
conditions being provided by these rehabilitation centers and need to 
analyse governmental policies, which is one of the responsible factor
for 
such condition of our people.

With regards







Shobhan Singh
Programme: PHD (Modern Indian History)
Room # 019
Brahmaputra Hostel
Jawaharlal Nehru University
Contact # 91-09313468732
SKYPE ID: shobhan_foucault
- Original Message - 
From: "Pranay Gadodia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 12:30 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Eyeway: Yeh Hai Roshni Ka Karawan - feedback solicited


> Hi Viraj,
> Can you please specify what kind of issues of the blind students in DU
and
> JNU you are referring to. On the radio programme we have always been
> inviting queries and problems faced by blind people. Many have
contacted 
> us
> and we have tried to give them the relevant information and connected
them
> to the specific service providers.
>
> Since you have not been a regular listener, for your and others 
> information,
> in the 52 episodes of our radio show we have kept our focus on -
> - diseminating positive news items among visually impaired people.
> - in the interview section calling a successful blind person or
someone 
> who
> has contributed towards the empowerment of blind people. Again the 
> objective
> is to inform and inspire blind people and educate the society in
general.
> - in the profile section, a brief profile of a visually impaired
achiever,
> Indian or non-Indian, read out by celebrities.
> - advice section is focused on specific topics.
> - showcasing talent of people in the field of music, writing and
anything
> that can be brought on the radio.
> - spreading positive awareness about visually impaired people in the
> society,
> - making the programme entertaining and interesting.
>
> So our focus is primarily on spreading positive information and
> insnpiration.
> Do let us know what all issues you are talking about and will try to
take 
> up
> them in the advice section or other relevant section.
>
> thanks and regards,
>
> Pranay Gadodia,
> Content Research Officer,
> Score Foundation.
> 125B, Shahpur Jat,
> New Delhi - 110 049
> INDIA.
>
> Mobile: +91 98917 91089
> Phone: +9

Re: [AI] Eyeway: Yeh Hai Roshni Ka Karawan - feedback solicited

2006-11-14 Thread shobhan singh
I am a regular listener of this programme and appreciate efforts made by 
eyeway foundation to uncover talents. But it really seems that locus of the 
programme is gyrating around if not around one particular institution, this 
is really limited to few particular issues. However, importance of issues 
like personality development, home-science and mobility etc. cannot be put 
aside, but now, since this programme has already completed fifty episodes, 
it really requires a change, in terms of newly emerging social and political 
issues. Because issues so far have been included in this programme being 
concerned since a long time short type of media coverage.

Significantly, last fifty-two episodes have also potraid an image of 
visually challenge man or woman as a hero, like other TV or newspaper's 
clippings That is, being a blind man or woman, he or she can do this and 
that. Why is it so? Why are we still agitating to live in stage of natural 
immediacy? I think we should move out of this stage and must prepare our 
self for the next stage where we must think about our identity and social 
relations and its acceptance that so far has not been addressed in this 
programme.

Finally, as you have asked to Viraj that "Can you please specify what kind 
of issues of the blind students in DU and JNU you are referring to."

Of course, your interviewers have never contacted or visited to university 
student community. I still don't say that visually or physically challenged 
people should only interview for celebrating their achievements or success. 
Hence, I think there are thousands of visually challenged man and woman, 
must be entertain through this programme, who are being exploited by using 
different technologies of power in number of so-called NGOS for welfare of 
visually challenged or institutions or welfare societies. We have number of 
issue needs to give attention. We need to bring into light to those people 
who on the name of blind people are earning in Dollars, signifying to 
corruption which day-to-day increasing. We need to focus on the living 
conditions being provided by these rehabilitation centers and need to 
analyse governmental policies, which is one of the responsible factor for 
such condition of our people.

With regards







Shobhan Singh
Programme: PHD (Modern Indian History)
Room # 019
Brahmaputra Hostel
Jawaharlal Nehru University
Contact # 91-09313468732
SKYPE ID: shobhan_foucault
- Original Message - 
From: "Pranay Gadodia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 12:30 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Eyeway: Yeh Hai Roshni Ka Karawan - feedback solicited


> Hi Viraj,
> Can you please specify what kind of issues of the blind students in DU and
> JNU you are referring to. On the radio programme we have always been
> inviting queries and problems faced by blind people. Many have contacted 
> us
> and we have tried to give them the relevant information and connected them
> to the specific service providers.
>
> Since you have not been a regular listener, for your and others 
> information,
> in the 52 episodes of our radio show we have kept our focus on -
> - diseminating positive news items among visually impaired people.
> - in the interview section calling a successful blind person or someone 
> who
> has contributed towards the empowerment of blind people. Again the 
> objective
> is to inform and inspire blind people and educate the society in general.
> - in the profile section, a brief profile of a visually impaired achiever,
> Indian or non-Indian, read out by celebrities.
> - advice section is focused on specific topics.
> - showcasing talent of people in the field of music, writing and anything
> that can be brought on the radio.
> - spreading positive awareness about visually impaired people in the
> society,
> - making the programme entertaining and interesting.
>
> So our focus is primarily on spreading positive information and
> insnpiration.
> Do let us know what all issues you are talking about and will try to take 
> up
> them in the advice section or other relevant section.
>
> thanks and regards,
>
> Pranay Gadodia,
> Content Research Officer,
> Score Foundation.
> 125B, Shahpur Jat,
> New Delhi - 110 049
> INDIA.
>
> Mobile: +91 98917 91089
> Phone: +91 - 11 - 2649 4582/81
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Website: www.eyeway.org
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Viraj Kafle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 8:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Eyeway: Yeh Hai Roshni Ka Karawan - feedback solicited
>
>
> Hello sir,
>
> I'm not a regular listener of your program so far, but I seriously doubt
> whether you have given appropriate focus on visually challenged students
> studying in universities like DU and JNU. I am mentioning these two names
> simply because I have been and am a student in these universities and I 
> have
> never notice the program covering any significant issue from these
> institutions.
>
> Regards,
>
> Viraj

[AI] conversion to braille

2006-11-14 Thread rajesh asudani
Friends

I need to convert a few books in e text into Braille for a friend of mine. I 
feel NAB Delhi can do it, but would appreciate details from the concerned: like 
time taken and charges, and format in which e text has to be sent and where 
etc. I have written to NAB library but am yet to receive response. I believe 
Mr. Mukesh Sharma is associated with the project. Sorry for  using this forum 
as the matter is urgent.

Regards

Rajesh.
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Re: [AI] Members pl take note of using blind in communication

2006-11-14 Thread Subramani L
Well said. This is precisely what I feel!

Subramani

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Dear Members,

I think I am blind and not visually challenged.  As far as politeness is

concerned, we are taken up by these clichaes and let the reality go by.
I 
think the word "blind" explains my total lack of sight than any other
word. 
besides.  What would you call a short man/woman?  vertically challenged?
I 
feel we would do well by facing the reality.  I would say if at all all
the 
disabled are attitudinally challenged.  We educated people who are blind

should not run away from the fact of our blindness.  Let me reiterate I
am 
not ashamed of being blind and would not like to sugar quote my
situation.

Friends, I started as "blind" then "visually handicapped" then "visually

disabled" and then again "visually challenged"  but at the enc of the
day I 
am still beaten up as "blind agitators"  hahaha.  words became polite
but no 
change in attitude.  So friend, this group is a group of learned members
and 
I look at all of you as realists and not a clichaed group So let us call
a 
spade a spade.  Let us not be taken up by Americans.
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To: 
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 8:41 AM
Subject: [AI] Members pl take note of using blind in communication


> Dear members,
> I hope many of you on the list agree with me that it is better that we
> atleast do not or stop using the word Blind and start using visually
> challenged in our conversation.  I feel the phrase is more polite and
> doesnot hurt the feelings who are visually challenged.
> let us try to use it in our communication.
> Rajani
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Re: [AI] Use disability not handicap

2006-11-14 Thread Subramani L
Dear Rajani:

I completely agree with you. But I feel blindness isn't our limitation
any more; it's our identity. So, I feel we must celebrate our identity
and shouldn't shy away from it and if we do that, it won't hurt us when
someone refers to us as blind. An example would be this: Australia is
made of ex-convicts transported to the continent from Britain, but they
are not bothered about it any more. In fact, they celebrate their
Australian'ness and aren't cowed down by their history any more. It's
the same with us.

Again, whoever is using the nicest of euphemisms for blindness, what's
the guarantee that he/she would use the same in our absence? So, the
best way is to change our attitude. We must make others understand that
what appears as a limitation is something that offers a certain
uniqueness to our identity and makes us special in mainstream
environment. If this is true, then shouldn't we feel confident about
what we are?

Subramani
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Hi,
Sorry, if I have taken your valuable time for this subject.  my only
intention was that if we have more refined words, why not use them if
it describews our condition in a polite way and not hurt our feelings.
 if we have achieved something inspite of our limitation, why we
should cling on to the limitation.  why not break out of it and say
that the disability is of mind and not any physical part.  I
personally feel better we be polite amongst ourselves, so that we can
expect that from general public.  Of course, it is my opinion and not
necessary that it should be taken.
Regards,
Rajani

On 11/14/06, shobhan singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> No doubt, we are blind and using the word "blind" do not produce any
> negative effect. But we should not use the word: "handicap" while
defining
> any of the disability whether it is visual or physical.
> Because the word "handicap" derives from the phrase "cap in hand"
referring
> to a beggar, and is despised by most people with disabilities.
> Regards
>
> Shobhan Singh
> Programme: PHD (Modern Indian History)
> Room # 019
> Brahmaputra Hostel
> Jawaharlal Nehru University
> Contact # 91-09313468732
> SKYPE ID: shobhan_foucault
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Re: [AI] Needed RCI URL

2006-11-14 Thread Ch.Srinivasu
Hi,
http://rehabcouncil.nic.in

Hope this helps.

Cheers,
Srinivasu

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To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] Needed RCI URL

Dear friends,
   
  Can anybody give the URL of RCI organization?
   
  Thanks in Advance.


Cheers

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[AI] Intel launches new chips

2006-11-14 Thread Vikas Kapoor
Intel launches new chips

Nov 15, 2006 Part work undertaken at the Bangalore centre

Quad chips include four computing `brains'

The products deliver high speed and responsiveness

CHENNAI: Intel Corporation launched globally on Tuesday its new quad core chips 
for both server and desktop platforms. Part of the work involved in getting
these chips ready was undertaken at the Intel India Development Centre (IIDC) 
in Bangalore, according to Ramamurthy Sivakumar, Country Manager, Intel 
Technology
India Pvt. Ltd.

Addressing a press conference here on Tuesday, Mr. Sivakumar said the new quad 
chips included four computing `brains' inside a single microprocessor with
the introduction of the quad-core Intel Xeon 5300 and Intel Core 2 Extreme 
quad-core processor families. These products deliver immense speed and 
responsiveness
for general-purpose servers, workstations, digital media creation, high-end 
gaming and other markets that demanded absolute performance. The price of these
products varied from $455 to $1,172, he said.

Mr. Sivakumar said Intel began the transition to multi-core technology four 
years ago with Intel Hyper threading technology, followed by the introduction
of the industry's first dual-core PC processors in April last year. Intel 
recently refreshed its entire product line in 100 days by introducing more than
30 new desktop and server processors based on Intel core micro-architecture.

He said the Digital Enterprise Group (DEG) at IIDC undertook significant work 
related to post silicon functional validation, which involved the crucial
decision of whether the product was ready to be launched in the markets or not.

Mr. Sivakumar said IIDC had been steadily contributing to the development of 
Intel's products. Other contributions included a small form factor notebook
based on the platform, codenamed `NapaSFF', the upcoming launch of the new 
mobile platform - codenamed `Santa Rosa'- due for launch in January 2007 and
the classmate PC, which is soon to be launched.

http://www.thehindu.com/2006/11/15/stories/2006111500812000.htm

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[AI] High-end devices from MS

2006-11-14 Thread Vikas Kapoor
High-end devices from MS

Nov 14, 2006 The products are priced between Rs. 2,010 and Rs. 10,570 - PHOTO: 
KAMAL NARANG

UPGRADING DEVICES: Mohit Anand, Country Manager-Entertainment and Devices 
Division, Microsoft India, launching new hardware products in New Delhi on 
Tuesday.

NEW DELHI: Microsoft on Tuesday announced the launch of high-end hardware 
products such as mice, keyboards, life cams and headsets, which are basically
of input nature. The product portfolio, billed as the `2007 range of hardware 
devices,'' is priced between Rs. 2,010 and Rs. 10,570.

Addressing a news conference here, Mohit Anand, Country Manager, entertainment 
and devices division, said the company was introducing new categories of
hardware products in India this year. These included `wireless notebook 
presenter 8000,' which functioned as a Bluetooth laser notebook mouse, slide 
presenter,
laser and digital pointer and media remote. It featured high definition laser 
technology for more responsiveness, precision and tracking.

The Habu combines Microsoft's mouse design with Razer's gaming features with 
minimum response time and the LifeCam NX-6000 is a wired notebook webcam that
integrates Windows Live Messenger service to deliver 7.6-megapixel quality 
still photography and high definition 2.0 megapixel video sensor.

Mr. Anand said Microsoft made its debut in hardware in 1982 with the Microsoft 
Word mice and had since developed three product lines - mice and keyboard
business, webcam and headsets. The latter two were entirely new products for 
the Indian market. The webcam featured four products, while the headsets would
be in wired and wireless versions. The company had also made these products 
environment friendly by making them completely lead-free.

He said Microsoft was the first to introduce the scroll wheel and optical mice 
in 1996. The company decided to introduce the products in India after finding
that many customers were opting for the high-end version, especially for 
notebooks.

http://www.thehindu.com/2006/11/15/stories/2006111500822000.htm

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[AI] Needed RCI URL

2006-11-14 Thread Vidya Lakshmi
Dear friends,
   
  Can anybody give the URL of RCI organization?
   
  Thanks in Advance.


Cheers

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[AI] tech talk

2006-11-14 Thread vishnu ramchandani
Shoulder surfing:
Stealing a computer password or access code by peeking
over a person's shoulder while they type in the
characters.

Did you know that Tonga, a monarchy in the southwest
Pacific Ocean east of Fiji, is home to such
interesting domain names as mail.to and burri.to.?



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[AI] web site

2006-11-14 Thread vishnu ramchandani
www.pookmail.com

Fed up of giving your real e-mail address to each and
every Web siteÂ… only to be spammed till kingdom come?
www.pookmail.com
offers a solution. The site is a temporary e-mail
service where you use any (name)@pookmail.com for any
site that demands an email address. Then, later,
go and check the mail at the PookMail Web site. All
email addresses and emails are deleted after 24 hours



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Re: [AI] Use disability not handicap

2006-11-14 Thread Rajani G
Hi,
Sorry, if I have taken your valuable time for this subject.  my only
intention was that if we have more refined words, why not use them if
it describews our condition in a polite way and not hurt our feelings.
 if we have achieved something inspite of our limitation, why we
should cling on to the limitation.  why not break out of it and say
that the disability is of mind and not any physical part.  I
personally feel better we be polite amongst ourselves, so that we can
expect that from general public.  Of course, it is my opinion and not
necessary that it should be taken.
Regards,
Rajani

On 11/14/06, shobhan singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> No doubt, we are blind and using the word "blind" do not produce any
> negative effect. But we should not use the word: "handicap" while defining
> any of the disability whether it is visual or physical.
> Because the word "handicap" derives from the phrase "cap in hand" referring
> to a beggar, and is despised by most people with disabilities.
> Regards
>
> Shobhan Singh
> Programme: PHD (Modern Indian History)
> Room # 019
> Brahmaputra Hostel
> Jawaharlal Nehru University
> Contact # 91-09313468732
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[AI] Password Protection for pen drive!

2006-11-14 Thread Dr. Vipin K. Malhotra
Dear Members,
If any one of you is having information about a shareware which could be 
used to protect data from unauthorise use. I want to protect my data copied 
in pen drive. Because I am carrying the same to different places and it is 
always a likelyhood that it may fell into the hands of some stranger.
Thanks in  advance!
Vip

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Re: [AI] Members pl take note of using blind in communication

2006-11-14 Thread Pranav Lal
Hi,

There is nothing wrong with using the word Blind. The words Visually challenged
or visually impaired take-up significantly more space. It is better to call a
spade a spade.

Pranav 

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Subject: [AI] Members pl take note of using blind in communication

Dear members,
I hope many of you on the list agree with me that it is better that we
atleast do not or stop using the word Blind and start using visually
challenged in our conversation.  I feel the phrase is more polite and
doesnot hurt the feelings who are visually challenged.
let us try to use it in our communication.
Rajani

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Re: [AI] Members pl take note of using blind in communication

2006-11-14 Thread Neeraj
as i feel, we can't change normal maintality, is it matter what we call to 
our self?


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We cannot be more sensitive to pleasure without being more sensitive to
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To: 
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 11:01 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Members pl take note of using blind in communication


> Dear Members,
>
> I think I am blind and not visually challenged.  As far as politeness is
> concerned, we are taken up by these clichaes and let the reality go by.  I
> think the word "blind" explains my total lack of sight than any other 
> word.
> besides.  What would you call a short man/woman?  vertically challenged? 
> I
> feel we would do well by facing the reality.  I would say if at all all 
> the
> disabled are attitudinally challenged.  We educated people who are blind
> should not run away from the fact of our blindness.  Let me reiterate I am
> not ashamed of being blind and would not like to sugar quote my situation.
>
> Friends, I started as "blind" then "visually handicapped" then "visually
> disabled" and then again "visually challenged"  but at the enc of the day 
> I
> am still beaten up as "blind agitators"  hahaha.  words became polite but 
> no
> change in attitude.  So friend, this group is a group of learned members 
> and
> I look at all of you as realists and not a clichaed group So let us call a
> spade a spade.  Let us not be taken up by Americans.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Rajani G" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 8:41 AM
> Subject: [AI] Members pl take note of using blind in communication
>
>
>> Dear members,
>> I hope many of you on the list agree with me that it is better that we
>> atleast do not or stop using the word Blind and start using visually
>> challenged in our conversation.  I feel the phrase is more polite and
>> doesnot hurt the feelings who are visually challenged.
>> let us try to use it in our communication.
>> Rajani
>>
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Re: [AI] Accessible chess software

2006-11-14 Thread Viraj Kafle
I got the following error message while executing the file "Act.exe"

ACT.exe - Unable To Locate Component
This application has failed to start because glut32.dll was not found.
Re-installing the graphic 450  application may fix this problem.
OK

On 11/15/06, Vetrivel Murugan Adhimoolam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> After you get to the page, There are two crucial links related to the
> software. The first one is for the The executable file and the second one is
> for the source code. You'll have to click on the first.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Ashwani Jassal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Geetha Shamanna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 9:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Accessible chess software
>
>
> > yes though it is sounding good but the problem is when I tried to download
> > ,
> > It could not be downloaded. Can you please brief me about the process?
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Geetha Shamanna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Access india" 
> > Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 10:36 HAPPS
> > Subject: [AI] Accessible chess software
> >
> >
> >> This accessible chess software has a very simple interface and is
> >> self-voicing:
> >> http://www.cs.unc.edu/Research/assist/et/projects/GameChest/
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Re: [AI] Accessible chess software

2006-11-14 Thread Vetrivel Murugan Adhimoolam
After you get to the page, There are two crucial links related to the 
software. The first one is for the The executable file and the second one is 
for the source code. You'll have to click on the first.

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To: "Geetha Shamanna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 

Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 9:59 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Accessible chess software


> yes though it is sounding good but the problem is when I tried to download 
> ,
> It could not be downloaded. Can you please brief me about the process?
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Geetha Shamanna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Access india" 
> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 10:36 HAPPS
> Subject: [AI] Accessible chess software
>
>
>> This accessible chess software has a very simple interface and is
>> self-voicing:
>> http://www.cs.unc.edu/Research/assist/et/projects/GameChest/
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Re: [AI] Members pl take note of using blind in communication

2006-11-14 Thread Viraj Kafle
Exactly. In fact, this whole debate is to do with the larger debate which, 
not only we, but all those sections of society who find themselves more or 
less segragated from the mainstream feel. The debate is whether we should 
fight for complete equality or would celebrate our being diferent. While not 
completely denying the former, I would rather go for the later. Anyway the 
diference cannot be dissolved completely and any commited attempt to do so 
will only increase our anxiety. Whether it is "visually challenged' or 
'blind', they all are the part of our identity and therefore we should 
celebrate all of them.
As for the other negative implications of the word 'blind', we must keep in 
mind that meaning of words are not natural, but are arbitrarily construed by 
those who are or have been in power. Similar is the case of the meanings of 
this word. For centuries, darkness is associated with the negative, whereas 
light is supposed to do with things such as knowledge, righteousness, purity 
etc. Such a binary, as I said above, are construed by those who were in 
power in order to marginalise the rest of society. This is the reason why 
words like 'blind' and 'andha' came to be associated with the negative 
implications. Since these binaries have become highly questionable in 
today's world, so should be these negative implications associated with the 
word 'blind'.
Anyway, what we are and what we are not largely depends on how we interact 
and present ourselves to the rest of the society and not much on what the 
rest of society calls us with.

Regards.


 - Original Message - 
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To: 
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 10:35 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Members pl take note of using blind in communication


> For those who have done English literature, the phrase 'Black is
> Beautiful' would be a familiar one. Black African writers in the 50's
> have coined it as a response to racist discrimination that was
> widespread in those times.
>
> I think, just like the black writers, we should coin the slogan: 'Blind
> is beautiful', not to boast about our condition, but to take pride in
> our achievement and also to make others understand we don't spend our
> lives regretting about our condition; as Ben Okry, the Nigerian poet,
> said: "Fear not my friend, the darkness is gentler than you think!"
>
> I feel thrilled whenever I read those lines of Okry.
>
> Subramani
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dipendra
> Manocha
> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 9:28 AM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] Members pl take note of using blind in communication
>
> ***
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>
>
> I have actually adopted the philosophy and way of thinking of the world
> blind union which says:
>
> Let us change what it means to be blind instead of changing the word
> blind.
> This definitely is a more uphill task and will take much more efforts of
> ours.
> Thanks
> Dipendra
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaja, Kiran
> Sent: 14 November 2006 09:12
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] Members pl take note of using blind in communication
>
> It is just easier to write blind than visually challenged. And between
> us,
> there is no need to use niceties, is there? Also, no matter what
> alternatives we use, there is no doubt we are blind. Just my two cents
> worth!
>
> Kiran.
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Tuesday, 14 November 2006 8:41 AM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: [AI] Members pl take note of using blind in communication
>
> Dear members,
> I hope many of you on the list agree with me that it is better that we
> atleast do not or stop using the word Blind and start using visually
> challenged in our conversation.  I feel the phrase is more polite and
> doesnot hurt the feelings who are visually challenged.
> let us try to use it in our communication.
> Rajani
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Re: [AI] Members pl take note of using blind in communication

2006-11-14 Thread sameer latey

Dear Friends,

I agree with what Ketan Sir has said in his mail on
this subject.

It does not matter what we call ourselves, whether it
be blind or visually
challenged or something else. What matters is whether
we allow our blindness
to stunt our growth or we accept the hand that fate
has dealt us and try to
make the best use of our abilities.

Regards
Sameer Latey
Mumbai, India
Mob. 9867414004
- Original Message -
From: "Ketan Kothari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 11:01 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Members pl take note of using blind
in communication


> Dear Members,
>
> I think I am blind and not visually challenged.  As
far as politeness is
> concerned, we are taken up by these clichaes and let
the reality go by.  I
> think the word "blind" explains my total lack of
sight than any other
word.
> besides.  What would you call a short man/woman? 
vertically challenged?
I
> feel we would do well by facing the reality.  I
would say if at all all
the
> disabled are attitudinally challenged.  We educated
people who are blind
> should not run away from the fact of our blindness. 
Let me reiterate I am
> not ashamed of being blind and would not like to
sugar quote my situation.
>
> Friends, I started as "blind" then "visually
handicapped" then "visually
> disabled" and then again "visually challenged"  but
at the enc of the day
I
> am still beaten up as "blind agitators"  hahaha. 
words became polite but
no
> change in attitude.  So friend, this group is a
group of learned members
and
> I look at all of you as realists and not a clichaed
group So let us call a
> spade a spade.  Let us not be taken up by Americans.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Rajani G" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 8:41 AM
> Subject: [AI] Members pl take note of using blind in
communication
>
>
> > Dear members,
> > I hope many of you on the list agree with me that
it is better that we
> > atleast do not or stop using the word Blind and
start using visually
> > challenged in our conversation.  I feel the phrase
is more polite and
> > doesnot hurt the feelings who are visually
challenged.
> > let us try to use it in our communication.
> > Rajani
> >
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Re: [AI] Accessible chess software

2006-11-14 Thread Ashwani Jassal
yes though it is sounding good but the problem is when I tried to download , 
It could not be downloaded. Can you please brief me about the process?
- Original Message - 
From: "Geetha Shamanna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Access india" 
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 10:36 HAPPS
Subject: [AI] Accessible chess software


> This accessible chess software has a very simple interface and is 
> self-voicing:
> http://www.cs.unc.edu/Research/assist/et/projects/GameChest/
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Re: [AI] Members pl take note of using blind in communication

2006-11-14 Thread Ketan Kothari
Dear Members,

I think I am blind and not visually challenged.  As far as politeness is 
concerned, we are taken up by these clichaes and let the reality go by.  I 
think the word "blind" explains my total lack of sight than any other word. 
besides.  What would you call a short man/woman?  vertically challenged?  I 
feel we would do well by facing the reality.  I would say if at all all the 
disabled are attitudinally challenged.  We educated people who are blind 
should not run away from the fact of our blindness.  Let me reiterate I am 
not ashamed of being blind and would not like to sugar quote my situation.

Friends, I started as "blind" then "visually handicapped" then "visually 
disabled" and then again "visually challenged"  but at the enc of the day I 
am still beaten up as "blind agitators"  hahaha.  words became polite but no 
change in attitude.  So friend, this group is a group of learned members and 
I look at all of you as realists and not a clichaed group So let us call a 
spade a spade.  Let us not be taken up by Americans.
- Original Message - 
From: "Rajani G" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 8:41 AM
Subject: [AI] Members pl take note of using blind in communication


> Dear members,
> I hope many of you on the list agree with me that it is better that we
> atleast do not or stop using the word Blind and start using visually
> challenged in our conversation.  I feel the phrase is more polite and
> doesnot hurt the feelings who are visually challenged.
> let us try to use it in our communication.
> Rajani
>
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Re: [AI] Members pl take note of using blind in communication

2006-11-14 Thread Viraj Kafle
As far as I can understand the meaning of this word by breaking it 
etymologically, (bay plus basar), it appears to mean the one who is without 
shelter, an equally problematic word. So, I would still insist that word and 
their meanings are all problematic and one should not feel hurt by any of 
these words or their implications. These are all pparts of myths created by 
the mainstream segments of society to segregate us. The solution would be to 
rather not avoid such words and try to present ourselves better to society. 
Avoiding such words will lead us to nowhere.

- Original Message - 
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To: 
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 7:53 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Members pl take note of using blind in communication


> well the same thing in pakistan
> i mean, many people seem to be using the word "andha" as a  literary  word
> in Urdu, whereas the most suitable words in Urdu   is baybaser, which 
> should
> be used in place of Andha.
> such harsh  words do hurt a great deal
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Vikas Kapoor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 9:48 AM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Members pl take note of using blind in communication
>
>
>> The literal translation of the English word blind would be Andha in 
>> Hindi,
>> which indeed, most of us would not like to hear from anybody as it is
>> construed as one of the uncivilized and a very rude word, especially when
>> it
>> comes to explaining our disability. Another important thing is that the
>> word
>> blind carries a much more wider connotation just as the word Andha in
>> Hindi
>> does, one can be blind by mind, blind by understanding, so on and so
>> forth.
>> If I'm not mistaken, our so called super star Amitab Bachan, while giving
>> a
>> brief description about the Braille script in one of the episodes of KBC
>> also used the word Andha and not Drishtiheen, which would sound much more
>> decent and refined in connection with the outlook or perception of the
>> general public towards the VH people. Even in most of the Hindi books and
>> other literature like magazines and newspapers, you'll still find the 
>> word
>> Andha to spell out the visual  disability rather than Drishtiheen. So the
>> bottom-line is to see the kind of awareness that people have, it is true
>> that it would make hardly any significant difference what term is being
>> use,
>> over the course of times refinements in any language are essential.
>> Regards,
>> Vikas Kapoor,
>> MSN ID:
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>> Yahoo ID:
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>> Skype ID: dl_vikas
>> Mobile: (+91) 9891098137.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Kaja, Kiran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: 
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 9:12 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Members pl take note of using blind in communication
>>
>>
>>> It is just easier to write blind than visually challenged. And between
>>> us, there is no need to use niceties, is there? Also, no matter what
>>> alternatives we use, there is no doubt we are blind. Just my two cents
>>> worth!
>>>
>>> Kiran.
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rajani G
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 14 November 2006 8:41 AM
>>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>> Subject: [AI] Members pl take note of using blind in communication
>>>
>>> Dear members,
>>> I hope many of you on the list agree with me that it is better that we
>>> atleast do not or stop using the word Blind and start using visually
>>> challenged in our conversation.  I feel the phrase is more polite and
>>> doesnot hurt the feelings who are visually challenged.
>>> let us try to use it in our communication.
>>> Rajani
>>>
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Re: [AI] An Eye-Opener

2006-11-14 Thread Vetrivel Murugan Adhimoolam
That's the thing about the literature though. Certain meanings are 
unfortunately not explicitly stated, rather they are stated in subtle ways. 
There comes the responsibility of progressive intellectuals to uncover the 
underlying meanings in certain writings. Such efforts demand us to put 
things in perspective. Remember that the society still largely considers 
visually impaired as the mere recipients of their token helps and in that 
the rest has the right to decide when, where and how to help. At the same 
time we are expected not to challenge this attitude. The writer is also 
contributing to this popular notion by using this particular case as an 
example and in that he/she brilliantly chooses Chair repair as an example. 
If the writer is genuinely interested in the development of that visually 
impaired character, then why not demand establishment of a permanent 
position for him in certain institutions? Should it be expressed in the form 
of help? Doesn't that character have the right to live with human dignity? 
Should his dignity be reduced to only certain token helps?

Vetri.


- Original Message - 
From: "rajesh asudani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] An Eye-Opener


> Well, I think the writer was referring to a regular job, and inferences
> about inferiority of work of repairing chairs drawn from the message are 
> not
> valid.
> Rajesh.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Vetrivel Murugan Adhimoolam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Geetha Shamanna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> 
> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 1:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] An Eye-Opener
>
>
>>I think that the writer's position should be traced back to the existing
>> social structure which considers certain jobs as inferior to others. This
>> is
>> true of not only Indian society, but also of other so called developed
>> countries where socially, racially and culturally marginalized people
>> occupy
>> jobs that are considered as undignified. Needless to point out that
>> certain
>> jobs of the visually impaired people are also brought under this 
>> umbrella.
>> So the change has to be at the ideological level.
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Geetha Shamanna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 8:46 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] An Eye-Opener
>>
>>
>>>I wonder why the writer of this letter thinks repairing chairs is not a
>>>job
>>> worth doing. If the man is sufficiently skilled (and the writer points
>>> out
>>> that he is) and if he is able to make a livingout of it, what is wrong
>>> with
>>> the job?
>>> Although our society has changed considerably over the past few years,
>>> dignity of labor is something that is still in short supply.
>>>
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "vishnu ramchandani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 12:17 PM
>>> Subject: [AI] An Eye-Opener
>>>
>>>
>>> An Eye-Opener
>>>
>>> Mumbai Mirror Reader
>>>
>>> Mirror reader Shoeb Hakim could not believe his eyes
>>> when he saw a blind man weave a chair with the
>>> perfection of a skilled craftsman
>>>
>>> Two days back, during my visit to the BMC licence
>>> office in Bandra, I saw something that left me
>>> stupefied.
>>>
>>> A blind man stumbled on the stairs and was helped back
>>> to his feet by some others present nearby. On getting
>>> up the man asked, "Who called me here to repair
>>> the chair?"
>>>
>>> An official told him that all chairs were all right
>>> and didn't need repairs.
>>>
>>> The man asked the officer to re-check insisting that
>>> he had been called for repair work.
>>>
>>> On re-checking, the official found a broken chair.
>>>
>>> Within moments, the blind man took out his tools and
>>> began repairing the chair with the precision of a
>>> skilled craftsman. It was a sight that I will never
>>> forget for the rest of my life.
>>>
>>> I request fellow Mumbaikars to help this man. We waste
>>> money on useless causes such as sending SMSes for TV
>>> shows, on firecrackers etc. Why not spend some
>>> money for a noble and genuine cause and help such men
>>> by providing them jobs.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> __
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>>> http://in.answers.yahoo.com/
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Re: [AI] New mailing list for linux and emacspeak created!

2006-11-14 Thread Dipendra Manocha
The converter is part of the CD distributed by Ministry of Information and
technology. This is the one released by Sonia Gandhi a few months ago. The
name of font converter is parivartan.

You could download this from the TDIL web site. Just search of technology
development in indian languages in google and you will find it easily.
Parivartan is a 43 MB download.

Thanks
Dipendra
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Keshav Kumar
Sent: 14 November 2006 18:31
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] New mailing list for linux and emacspeak created!

could you tell us about some web sites, from where, such converters may be
available for donload?

regards,
Keshav.

- Original Message -
From: "Dipendra Manocha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 8:52 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] New mailing list for linux and emacspeak created!


> No problems now in creating and reading documents using the Unicode based
> fonts. If you do have documents in non-Unicode based fonts then converters
> are also available to convert them into unicode based fonts.
>
> The default font of the windows "mangal" is the unicode based font. There
> are many more.
> Thanks
> Dipendra
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rajesh 
> asudani
> Sent: 14 November 2006 00:37
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] New mailing list for linux and emacspeak created!
>
> Hello Dipendra
>
> To repeat my earlier question, what is the present status of SAFA? Is it
> okay to go in for Vachak and use SAFA for reading and creating hindi
> documents in common fonts, at least? or it will take some more time
>
> Regards
>
> Rajesh.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dipendra Manocha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 7:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] New mailing list for linux and emacspeak created!
>
>
>> I do not think that this question has ever been solved. Not just for
>> linux but for windows too.
>>
>> The Emacspeak has extremely powerful, needs very less hardware resources.
>> Today the IBM TTs is not available free of cost on Linux thus if you
>> need
> a
>> good quality text to speech synthesiser then we do have to pay some
>> money
> to
>> get it. Festival is how ever, a resonable free of cost choice. If you
>> have confidence on your memory then you should be comfortable with
>> this interface. Give yourself a month or two to get comfortable on
>> this system since you need to earn the emacs and related operations
>> and also the approaches and speech commands.
>>
>> Orca on the other hand would have other advantages such as the support
>> of GUI and support for wordprocessor or spread sheet like the open 
>> office.
> The
>> choice would largely depend on what do you want to use PC for and what
>> configuration do you have on the PC. These are not conflicting thus
>> you could have both configured on your machine and play with them to
>> determine what you would want to use for your daily tasks.
>> Thanks
>> Dipendra
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vishal M
>> Jain
>> Sent: 11 November 2006 06:52
>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> Subject: Re: [AI] New mailing list for linux and emacspeak created!
>>
>> Hello Dipendra sir and others,
>> Can you please suggest which Linux Screen reader is more user friendly?
>> Oralux. Which loads emacspeak or Ubuntu which has ORCA.
>> Thanks in advance
>>
>> Regards,
>> Vishal Jain
>> Ph : 080-41140564
>> Website : http://vishal.hello.googlepages.com
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Dipendra Manocha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: 
>> Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 10:11 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] New mailing list for linux and emacspeak created!
>>
>>
>> > The first day of the workshop has just got over. It has been very
>> > exciting.
>> > We actually tried two self booting CDs.
>> >
>> > 1. Oralux. Which loads emacspeak directly. This distribution is
>> > meant specially for persons with blindness and is extremely speech
> friendly.
> We
>> > do
>> > need to learn commands for getting around but it is really all very
> worth
>> > all efforts.
>> >
>> > The second is the distribution of Ubuntu which comes with screen
>> > reader called ORCA. It works well in the GNOM Graphic user
>> > environment and
> works
>> > well with open office word and excel.
>> >
>> > Both these Cds are now available from NAB Delhi and if any one wants
>> > to get these CDs instead of downloading it from web site, you could
>> > send
> request
>> > on
>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] There will be a charge of 15 rupees for the CD
>> > and if you want this to be sent by courier then 25 rupees need to be
>> > added for this. Thus you could get these CDs in 40 rupees for one CD
>> > or 55 rupees for both.
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> > Dipendra
>> >
>> >
>> > -Original Message

[AI] information wanted from bombayites please.

2006-11-14 Thread P. Subramani
would like to know names and phones of  few lodges and hotels situated near 
CSTM railway station, Mumbai budget hotels like tariff for single, double and 
family rooms. I would appreciate if someone could find out and reply to e-mail 
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Re: [AI] Members pl take note of using blind in communication

2006-11-14 Thread Salman
well the same thing in pakistan
i mean, many people seem to be using the word "andha" as a  literary  word 
in Urdu, whereas the most suitable words in Urdu   is baybaser, which should 
be used in place of Andha.
such harsh  words do hurt a great deal

- Original Message - 
From: "Vikas Kapoor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 9:48 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Members pl take note of using blind in communication


> The literal translation of the English word blind would be Andha in Hindi,
> which indeed, most of us would not like to hear from anybody as it is
> construed as one of the uncivilized and a very rude word, especially when 
> it
> comes to explaining our disability. Another important thing is that the 
> word
> blind carries a much more wider connotation just as the word Andha in 
> Hindi
> does, one can be blind by mind, blind by understanding, so on and so 
> forth.
> If I'm not mistaken, our so called super star Amitab Bachan, while giving 
> a
> brief description about the Braille script in one of the episodes of KBC
> also used the word Andha and not Drishtiheen, which would sound much more
> decent and refined in connection with the outlook or perception of the
> general public towards the VH people. Even in most of the Hindi books and
> other literature like magazines and newspapers, you'll still find the word
> Andha to spell out the visual  disability rather than Drishtiheen. So the
> bottom-line is to see the kind of awareness that people have, it is true
> that it would make hardly any significant difference what term is being 
> use,
> over the course of times refinements in any language are essential.
> Regards,
> Vikas Kapoor,
> MSN ID:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Yahoo ID:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Skype ID: dl_vikas
> Mobile: (+91) 9891098137.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Kaja, Kiran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 9:12 AM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Members pl take note of using blind in communication
>
>
>> It is just easier to write blind than visually challenged. And between
>> us, there is no need to use niceties, is there? Also, no matter what
>> alternatives we use, there is no doubt we are blind. Just my two cents
>> worth!
>>
>> Kiran.
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rajani G
>> Sent: Tuesday, 14 November 2006 8:41 AM
>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> Subject: [AI] Members pl take note of using blind in communication
>>
>> Dear members,
>> I hope many of you on the list agree with me that it is better that we
>> atleast do not or stop using the word Blind and start using visually
>> challenged in our conversation.  I feel the phrase is more polite and
>> doesnot hurt the feelings who are visually challenged.
>> let us try to use it in our communication.
>> Rajani
>>
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Re: [AI] New mailing list for linux and emacspeak created!

2006-11-14 Thread Vedprakash Sharma
please give some  links to download the converters.
do these fonts apply to Hindi text also? as CBSE books available on the site 
are not compatible with safa.
Thanks

- Original Message - 
From: "Dipendra Manocha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 8:52 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] New mailing list for linux and emacspeak created!


> No problems now in creating and reading documents using the Unicode based
> fonts. If you do have documents in non-Unicode based fonts then converters
> are also available to convert them into unicode based fonts.
>
> The default font of the windows "mangal" is the unicode based font. There
> are many more.
> Thanks
> Dipendra
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rajesh 
> asudani
> Sent: 14 November 2006 00:37
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] New mailing list for linux and emacspeak created!
>
> Hello Dipendra
>
> To repeat my earlier question, what is the present status of SAFA? Is it
> okay to go in for Vachak and use SAFA for reading and creating hindi
> documents in common fonts, at least? or it will take some more time
>
> Regards
>
> Rajesh.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dipendra Manocha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 7:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] New mailing list for linux and emacspeak created!
>
>
>> I do not think that this question has ever been solved. Not just for
>> linux but for windows too.
>>
>> The Emacspeak has extremely powerful, needs very less hardware resources.
>> Today the IBM TTs is not available free of cost on Linux thus if you
>> need
> a
>> good quality text to speech synthesiser then we do have to pay some
>> money
> to
>> get it. Festival is how ever, a resonable free of cost choice. If you
>> have confidence on your memory then you should be comfortable with
>> this interface. Give yourself a month or two to get comfortable on
>> this system since you need to earn the emacs and related operations
>> and also the approaches and speech commands.
>>
>> Orca on the other hand would have other advantages such as the support
>> of GUI and support for wordprocessor or spread sheet like the open 
>> office.
> The
>> choice would largely depend on what do you want to use PC for and what
>> configuration do you have on the PC. These are not conflicting thus
>> you could have both configured on your machine and play with them to
>> determine what you would want to use for your daily tasks.
>> Thanks
>> Dipendra
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vishal M
>> Jain
>> Sent: 11 November 2006 06:52
>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> Subject: Re: [AI] New mailing list for linux and emacspeak created!
>>
>> Hello Dipendra sir and others,
>> Can you please suggest which Linux Screen reader is more user friendly?
>> Oralux. Which loads emacspeak or Ubuntu which has ORCA.
>> Thanks in advance
>>
>> Regards,
>> Vishal Jain
>> Ph : 080-41140564
>> Website : http://vishal.hello.googlepages.com
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Dipendra Manocha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: 
>> Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 10:11 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] New mailing list for linux and emacspeak created!
>>
>>
>> > The first day of the workshop has just got over. It has been very
>> > exciting.
>> > We actually tried two self booting CDs.
>> >
>> > 1. Oralux. Which loads emacspeak directly. This distribution is
>> > meant specially for persons with blindness and is extremely speech
> friendly.
> We
>> > do
>> > need to learn commands for getting around but it is really all very
> worth
>> > all efforts.
>> >
>> > The second is the distribution of Ubuntu which comes with screen
>> > reader called ORCA. It works well in the GNOM Graphic user
>> > environment and
> works
>> > well with open office word and excel.
>> >
>> > Both these Cds are now available from NAB Delhi and if any one wants
>> > to get these CDs instead of downloading it from web site, you could
>> > send
> request
>> > on
>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] There will be a charge of 15 rupees for the CD
>> > and if you want this to be sent by courier then 25 rupees need to be
>> > added for this. Thus you could get these CDs in 40 rupees for one CD
>> > or 55 rupees for both.
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> > Dipendra
>> >
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aruni
> Sharma
>> > Sent: 10 November 2006 12:29
>> > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> > Subject: [AI] New mailing list for linux and emacspeak created!
>> >
>> > Hello friends, you will be glad to know that steps have been
>> > initiated
> in
>> > order to start popularising the use of linux and emacspeak among the
>> > visually impaired people in India with first such workshop going on
>> > at
> NAB
>> > Delhi today and tomorrow. The results are encouraging and linux has
> great

Re: [AI] Members pl take note of using blind in communication

2006-11-14 Thread Dinesh Kaushal
These days for many the word harijan also denotes bad way of addressing, so 
words do not make the changes, but even new word takes on the expression of 
the old as well until the basic feeling is not changed, so I agree with 
Dipendra's statement from World Blind union stating Let us change what it 
means to be blind instead of changing the word blind.



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Re: [AI] New mailing list for linux and emacspeak created!

2006-11-14 Thread Keshav Kumar
could you tell us about some web sites, from where, such converters may be 
available for donload?

regards,
Keshav.

- Original Message - 
From: "Dipendra Manocha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 8:52 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] New mailing list for linux and emacspeak created!


> No problems now in creating and reading documents using the Unicode based
> fonts. If you do have documents in non-Unicode based fonts then converters
> are also available to convert them into unicode based fonts.
>
> The default font of the windows "mangal" is the unicode based font. There
> are many more.
> Thanks
> Dipendra
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rajesh 
> asudani
> Sent: 14 November 2006 00:37
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] New mailing list for linux and emacspeak created!
>
> Hello Dipendra
>
> To repeat my earlier question, what is the present status of SAFA? Is it
> okay to go in for Vachak and use SAFA for reading and creating hindi
> documents in common fonts, at least? or it will take some more time
>
> Regards
>
> Rajesh.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dipendra Manocha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 7:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] New mailing list for linux and emacspeak created!
>
>
>> I do not think that this question has ever been solved. Not just for
>> linux but for windows too.
>>
>> The Emacspeak has extremely powerful, needs very less hardware resources.
>> Today the IBM TTs is not available free of cost on Linux thus if you
>> need
> a
>> good quality text to speech synthesiser then we do have to pay some
>> money
> to
>> get it. Festival is how ever, a resonable free of cost choice. If you
>> have confidence on your memory then you should be comfortable with
>> this interface. Give yourself a month or two to get comfortable on
>> this system since you need to earn the emacs and related operations
>> and also the approaches and speech commands.
>>
>> Orca on the other hand would have other advantages such as the support
>> of GUI and support for wordprocessor or spread sheet like the open 
>> office.
> The
>> choice would largely depend on what do you want to use PC for and what
>> configuration do you have on the PC. These are not conflicting thus
>> you could have both configured on your machine and play with them to
>> determine what you would want to use for your daily tasks.
>> Thanks
>> Dipendra
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vishal M
>> Jain
>> Sent: 11 November 2006 06:52
>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> Subject: Re: [AI] New mailing list for linux and emacspeak created!
>>
>> Hello Dipendra sir and others,
>> Can you please suggest which Linux Screen reader is more user friendly?
>> Oralux. Which loads emacspeak or Ubuntu which has ORCA.
>> Thanks in advance
>>
>> Regards,
>> Vishal Jain
>> Ph : 080-41140564
>> Website : http://vishal.hello.googlepages.com
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Dipendra Manocha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: 
>> Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 10:11 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] New mailing list for linux and emacspeak created!
>>
>>
>> > The first day of the workshop has just got over. It has been very
>> > exciting.
>> > We actually tried two self booting CDs.
>> >
>> > 1. Oralux. Which loads emacspeak directly. This distribution is
>> > meant specially for persons with blindness and is extremely speech
> friendly.
> We
>> > do
>> > need to learn commands for getting around but it is really all very
> worth
>> > all efforts.
>> >
>> > The second is the distribution of Ubuntu which comes with screen
>> > reader called ORCA. It works well in the GNOM Graphic user
>> > environment and
> works
>> > well with open office word and excel.
>> >
>> > Both these Cds are now available from NAB Delhi and if any one wants
>> > to get these CDs instead of downloading it from web site, you could
>> > send
> request
>> > on
>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] There will be a charge of 15 rupees for the CD
>> > and if you want this to be sent by courier then 25 rupees need to be
>> > added for this. Thus you could get these CDs in 40 rupees for one CD
>> > or 55 rupees for both.
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> > Dipendra
>> >
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aruni
> Sharma
>> > Sent: 10 November 2006 12:29
>> > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> > Subject: [AI] New mailing list for linux and emacspeak created!
>> >
>> > Hello friends, you will be glad to know that steps have been
>> > initiated
> in
>> > order to start popularising the use of linux and emacspeak among the
>> > visually impaired people in India with first such workshop going on
>> > at
> NAB
>> > Delhi today and tomorrow. The results are encouraging and linux has
> great
>> > potential to be used here in India. So in ord

Re: [AI] Eyeway: Yeh Hai Roshni Ka Karawan - feedback solicited

2006-11-14 Thread Keshav Kumar
you can also place them on your web site, of course, in MP3 format, enabling 
an easy download and also, taking less space on the server.

regards,
Keshav.

- Original Message - 
From: "Pranay Gadodia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 8:32 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Eyeway: Yeh Hai Roshni Ka Karawan - feedback solicited


> Hi Keshav and others,
> These programmes are our production and not of A I R and definitely we 
> have
> archived them.
> They are available for sale from us at Rs. 150/- per episode plus courier
> charges. We are also thinking of some other ways to spread them around and
> will keep the group posted with the decisions.
>
> thanks and regards,
>
> Pranay Gadodia,
> Content Research Officer,
> Score Foundation.
> 125B, Shahpur Jat,
> New Delhi - 110 049
> INDIA.
>
> Mobile: +91 98917 91089
> Phone: +91 - 11 - 2649 4582/81
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Website: www.eyeway.org
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Keshav Kumar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 7:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Eyeway: Yeh Hai Roshni Ka Karawan - feedback solicited
>
>
> i feel that archiving all such programs on CDs would enable people to even
> purchase later.
>
> All India Radio too sale their programs!
>
> regards,
> Keshav.
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Pranay Gadodia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 6:25 PM
> Subject: [AI] Eyeway: Yeh Hai Roshni Ka Karawan - feedback solicited
>
>
>> Dear friends,
>> Many of you know and some of you also listen to our radio show Eyeway: 
>> Yeh
>> Hai Roshni Ka Karawan. This show is packed with lots of information and
>> inspiration for people with visual impairment, for all those who deal 
>> with
>> the domain of eye and blindness and for society in general.
>>
>> We started airing it on 17th november 2005 in six cities namely Delhi,
>> Mumbai, Kolkata, Lucknow, Ahmedabad and Hyderabad. All these stations air
>> on different days of the weeks and at different time.
>>
>> We would complete aring 52 episodes by December this year. Ahead we plan
>> to go on A I R Vividbharti or FM channels to cover a wider population. We
>> are in the process of this second phase.
>>
>> Already we have been getting queries, contribution requests, feedback and
>> suggestions from listeners. We would appreciate if more listeners could
>> give their feedback about the radio programme and also suggestions for 
>> the
>> upcoming programmes. Let us know what you like or you did not like in the
>> present series, which section you would like to be shorter or lengthier 
>> or
>> deleted, any new section you would like to be introduced, any topics on
>> which you would like to hear.
>>
>> Apart from the respective cities, it also reaches to many adjoining towns
>> and villages. Keeping in mind all areas, age groups, different levels of
>> education, entertainment etc. we have been deciding the content of the
>> radio show. A half an hour show has an interview, an advice section, a
>> profile of a blind achiever read by a celebrity, a positive news piece 
>> and
>> artists and creative contributions.
>>
>> For those who do not know the airing schedule, here it is with the
>> upcoming episode numbers on the different stations.
>> . Delhi: Thursday, 9.30 p.m. on 450.5 Mtrs and 666 KHz. on 16th november
>> listen episode 49.
>> . Mumbai: Monday, 8 p.m. on 287.3 Mtrs and 1,044 KHz. on 13th november
>> listen spisode 47.
>> . Kolkata: Tuesday, 7.30 p.m. on 297.6 Mtrs and 1,008 KHz. on 14th
>> november listen episode 47.
>> . Hyderabad: Tuesday, 8 p.m. on 217.8 Mtrs and 1,377 KHz. on 14th 
>> november
>> listen episode 47.
>> . Lucknow: Sunday, 7.30 p.m. on 401.6 Mtrs and 747 KHz.  on 19th november
>> listen episode 46.
>> . Ahmedabad: Sunday, 8.30 a.m. on 354.6 Mtrs and 846 KHz. completed 
>> airing
>> of all 52 episodes.
>>
>> If you have DTH connection of Doordarshan, then you can listen to all the
>> above A I R channels irrespective of your geographical location.
>> If you have any feedback / suggestion, do let us know by a phone call or
>> email or letter. You can call us at 9968 329 329 . Our email is
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] or you may write to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> Please forward this email to your other friends and contacts and help us
>> in making a informative, inspiring and empowering programme.
>> For more information about the radio show, visit the radio page on our
>> website at http://www.eyeway.org/include/radio/radio.html
>>
>> thanks and regards,
>>
>> Pranay Gadodia,
>> Content Research Officer,
>> Project Eyeway
>> Score Foundation.
>> 125B, Shahpur Jat,
>> New Delhi - 110 049
>> INDIA.
>>
>> Mobile: +91 98917 91089
>> Phone: +91 - 11 - 2649 4582/81
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Re: [AI] Eyeway: Yeh Hai Roshni Ka Karawan - feedback solicited

2006-11-14 Thread smriti singh
Ireally appriciate your initiatives coming initiative.
I wanted to specify that you should raise issue of
visually challenged women. Most Emphatically, it is
really appriciable that you are interviewing
successful women in their professional field. But I
would like suggest again that it is very important to
pick up issue of marriage. Because still among
visually challenged man and in visual society there is
myth about their capability of managing domestic
affairs. There are many visually challenged girls in
their day-to-day life are sexually exploited. If this
issue will not be raised by media then who is going to
raise such issue. I found this NGO doing better work
than other NGOS that is why I have responded, if you
need any help regarding it then I am ready to help.
With regard
 Pranay Gadodia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi Smriti,
> Thanks for the prompt response  and in first place
> appreciating the radio 
> programme.
> 
> My answers to your questions are as below:
> You wrote : But kindly tell me that why this
> programme is revolving around 
> one particular institution? and why those people who
> are pursuing their 
> higher-education in best institutions of Asia are
> not given attention?
> Pranay: I dont know to which institution you are
> pointing to. We have called 
> in people for the interview and the advice section
> as per their 
> achievements, struggle, availability for recording,
> available time and 
> resources to reach out to them if they are outside
> delhi. There are still 
> many more people in our databank remaining whom we
> haven't able to feature 
> on the show because we are completing just 52
> episodes and there are lot 
> many more to come. Apart from people of delhi, we
> have featured people from 
> Mumbai, Ahmedabad & baroda, Kolkata, Hyderabad,
> Chennai, men and women both, 
> in varied professions / vocations. Also we would
> appreciate any specific 
> suggestions in this regard.
> 
> You wrote: As it cannot be deny that employment
> issue is very important but 
> it does not mean that locus of the programme should
> be employment only.
> I emphatically would like to suggeest that problems
> of the marriage, gender 
> harassment that particularly visually challenged
> women has to face must be 
> given
> attention in this programme.
> Pranay:  In the advice section we take different
> issues pertinent to 
> visually impaired people. Apart from talking on
> different employment options 
> for blind people, in these 52 episodes we have
> discussed topics like 
> personality development & grooming, keeping oneself
> fit, sports, exercises, 
> low vision rehabilitation, few advice sections on
> different eye problems, 
> eye donation, banking for blind people, braille,
> access technology, 
> education, keeping oneself informed, parenting,
> sharing by sighted spouse of 
> blind person etc Again we would be happy to receive
> and do advice section on 
> many other different issues of visually impaired
> people which specific to us 
> or general in nature.
> 
> One thing which we would like to cover better in the
> upcoming programmes is 
> taking issues pertinent more to the people of rural
> India, people who were 
> not fortunate in getting good education. We found a
> good listener base in 
> smaller towns and villages and they have been
> continously contacting us.
> 
> 
> thanks and regards,
> Pranay Gadodia,
> Content Research Officer,
> Score Foundation.
> 125B, Shahpur Jat,
> New Delhi - 110 049
> INDIA.
> 
> Phone: +91 - 11 - 2649 4582/81
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Website: www.eyeway.org
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "smriti singh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 6:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Eyeway: Yeh Hai Roshni Ka Karawan
> - feedback solicited
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- Pranay Gadodia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Dear friends,
> > Many of you know and some of you also listen to
> our
> > radio show Eyeway: Yeh Hai Roshni Ka Karawan. This
> > show is packed with lots of information and
> > inspiration for people with visual impairment, for
> > all those who deal with the domain of eye and
> > blindness and for society in general.
> >
> > We started airing it on 17th november 2005 in six
> > cities namely Delhi, Mumbai, Kolkata, Lucknow,
> > Ahmedabad and Hyderabad. All these stations air on
> > different days of the weeks and at different time.
> >
> > We would complete aring 52 episodes by December
> this
> > year. Ahead we plan to go on A I R Vividbharti or
> FM
> > channels to cover a wider population. We are in
> the
> > process of this second phase.
> >
> > Already we have been getting queries, contribution
> > requests, feedback and suggestions from listeners.
> > We would appreciate if more listeners could give
> > their feedback about the radio programme and also
> > suggestions for the upcoming programmes. Let us
> know
> > what you like or you did not like in the present
> > series, which section you would 

[AI] Mobile networks ready for 3G

2006-11-14 Thread Vikas Kapoor
Mobile networks ready for 3G

THE LATEST buzzword in the mobile industry is `3G'. Every mobile service 
provider is eager to exploit the situation to develop his network capability to
incorporate lot of value added services and more specifically to extend 
Wireless Broad band Access (WBA) to his subscriber base in order to increase his
revenue stream.

The mobile networks are ready for transformation to 3G services. The service 
providers are upbeat with recent introduction of GPRS and EDGE. By up-gradation
to 2.5G, the mobile network has been successful in delivering data at the 
higher rates of 144 kbps and 384 kbps.

3G is a concept which leads to realisation of the convergence of the top four 
major technologies, namely, communication (of voice and data), broadcasting
(of video clips), telecasting (of music), internet access (data transmission 
including charts and pictures) at a very high speed.

3G denotes third generation technology used in context with mobile phone.

The service associated with 3G provides ability to transfer simultaneously both 
`voice-data' (telephone call) and `non-voice data' (downloading information,
e-mail and the like) using Internet Protocol (IP) over packet-switching mode.

For 3G a 5MHz channel carrier width to deliver significantly higher data rates 
with increased capacity to meet future requirement is essential. The allocation
of spectrum to mobile service providers is pending with GOI as on date.

The recommendations of TRAI on this subject clearly spell out the technical 
requirement, regulatory conditions and pricing policy.

The spectrum identified for 3G is to be treated as a standalone allocation and 
not an extension of the earlier spectrum allocation of 2G. The range of 
frequencies
considered most suitable is 450 MHz, 800 MHz and 2.1 GHz .

Five blocks of 2 x 2- 5 MHz in 2.1 GHz band, one block of 2 x5 MHz in 450 MHz 
band, two blocks of 2 x 1.25 MHz in 800 MHz are proposed to be made available
to the mobile operators.

For Broadband wireless access (BWA), which is given high priority, it is 
identified that 200 MHz of spectrum in 3.3-3.4 GHz and 3.4-3.6 GHz bands will be
the most optimum for the purpose.

This pragmatic long-term road map identifying bands of spectrum for immediate 
and future use thus ensures that the benefit of technology is spread all over
the country. The 800 MHz Spectrum is reserved for all CDMA operators with 2x2.5 
MHz for the introduction of CDMA EV-DO.

TRAI observed: "Considering the growth and development of wireless technologies 
and services, a long-term view on overall spectrum management policy including
the organizational structure for spectrum management is necessary."

"In order to ensure availability of additional spectrum, its efficient 
utilization, planning for future requirement and effective monitoring a National
Frequency management Board (NFMB) may be constituted."

Migration to 3G network in India is late, as already over 70 countries have 
rolled out 3G, Japan being the first country to introduce 3G in 2002 and having
40 per cent of subscribers using 3G network as on date.

Europe launched 3G in 2003. India is expected to join the 3G Club by 2007 
provided the spectrum allocation is done smoothly.

3G can be listed as: use of small packet terminals with worldwide roaming 
facility; Internet and other multi media applications on mobile at higher speeds
on any time anywhere basis; high degree of commonality of design worldwide; 
news feeds, music video clips, bank statements instantly on mobile handsets
(combination of voice and data seamlessly); interactive video games/computer 
games over the Net on the move with handset with built-in radio modems to
provide remote control and diagnostics; open architecture enabling easy 
integration and standardisation.

3GPP (3rd generation partnership projects for GSM) and 3GPP 2 (3rd generation 
partnership projects for CDMA) are new worldwide standards for the creation,
delivery and playback of multimedia over 3G mobile net works.

3GPP 2 are based on MPEG-4, the standard for delivery of video and audio over 
the Internet.

This also enables capturing of video pictures on mobile handset and 
transferring them to desktop computers/laptops for playback using suitable S/W.

Deputy General Manager

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[AI] REF. TO NAB. GUIDANCE.

2006-11-14 Thread rakesh kumar gupta

HELLO TO ALL ACTIVE MEMBERS OF THE GREAT ** accessindia.org.in AND SPECIALLY TO 
MR. PUSHKAR,
Firstly, I congratulate to every active member of this great organization for 
sharing personal experiences in their own life and providing new information
about technical development in I.T. and other prospects specially to MR. VIKAS 
KAPOOR and others.
Secondly, I want to suggest to MR. PUSHKAR RAJ PANDEY about his coming 
interview on 16th of this month that he should try to follow these things which 
are
mentioning here:
1. He should prepare himself mentally for satisfying The Board of Interview 
that _which type of benefits, he will provide to his bank / office by his 
service
as an officer [being his blindness]?
2. He should be mentally and physically fit before his interview and he should 
face this interview with _positive attitude, this positive attitude will
create self-confidence, convincing power, great patience, calmness, politeness 
and __special internal power for thinking out extraordinarily about future
policy on him.
3. He should make up his mind about the current situation of his bank such as:
Firstly, from what type of situations his bank is running on?
Secondly, how is economic position of his bank and if it is running not so 
good, then what attempts he will suggest to his bank for reformation?
Thirdly, what does he think about recommendations of NARSINGHA COMMITTEE and 
RAKESH SINHA COMMITTEE and KAKELKAR COMMITTEE?
Fourthly, how will he tackle his subordinates to do maximum works in ** minimum 
time for competing his bank with _multi-nationalist private banks specially
in public services.
Fifthly, what does he act to provide __DEAD MONEY of his bank, as an officer?
Sixthly, what type of reformations  should his bank accept for its improvement 
ion all sectors.
4. In my personal view, As an Banking Officer, blind person may work as an 
Advisor, a Loan Officer, Professor for giving lectures in different topics to
TRAINEES of his bank in training centre of his bank, etc.
Finally, MR. PUSHKAR should have think "something new" in this area because 
when strong determination of getting some new achievement comes in mind of a
person specially a blind person, he has to face many challenges and problems, 
but in the end, we the blind person surely get success like: MR. GOPAL KRISHNA,
MR. CHETAN SHARMA, MS. ANURADHA MOHIT [NEWLY APPOINTED DIRECTOR OF NIVH. 
DEHRADUNE], MR. VETRI, MR. RAHUL JAIN, DEEPENDRA MINOCHA MR. RAJPAL, MR. 
SATYAVIR
SINGH [school student] and others.
my best wishes will remain whit not only MR. PUSHKAR, but also with these blind 
persons who think some extraordinary new steps and ways to serve gheir society
and who get some new achievements in their life.
Thanks,
RAKESH KUMAR GUPTA,
PGT. / LECTURER OF POLITICAL SCIENCE IN GOVT. SCHOOL, NCT. DELHI.
mobile: 09868250258 and landline: 0120-2611158.
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Re: [AI] Members pl take note of using blind in communication

2006-11-14 Thread firoz pathan
i do remember our father of nation MAHATMA GANDHI gave new ward harijan 
which was more positive then the local regional ward used for lower caste 
people
same way visual challenged ward looks more promising compare to blind

- Original Message - 
From: "smriti singh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 5:22 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Members pl take note of using blind in communication


>I also agree with Viraj that language is arbitrary  it
> is not natural. This is my research topic and I have
> found
> --- that there is negativity added to blind, blindness
> or Andha and Andhapan. If we are not going to
> de-construct such association they who is going to
> turn it around? That is why to break out this myth
> around us it is necessary in today's world to use this
> world in most specific way by this we can challenge to
> visual world. This is how we will achieve in our
> society empowerment.
> RegardsRajani G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Dear members,
>> I hope many of you on the list agree with me that it
>> is better that we
>> atleast do not or stop using the word Blind and
>> start using visually
>> challenged in our conversation.  I feel the phrase
>> is more polite and
>> doesnot hurt the feelings who are visually
>> challenged.
>> let us try to use it in our communication.
>> Rajani
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[AI] Google introduces customized home pages

2006-11-14 Thread Vikas Kapoor
Google introduces customized home pages

Nov 14, 2006

MOUNTAIN VIEW: Google Inc introduced on Monday the first upgrade to its 
business software line, offering organizations a way to give individual 
employees
or group members a personalized home page.

The new personalized home page feature for organizations functions as a central 
access point for Google Apps - short for applications - a set of Web-based
business software aimed at small business users, which Google introduced in 
August.

The Google Apps start page is a stripped-down version of the central overview 
that office workers see in Outlook from Microsoft Corp or Lotus Notes from
IBM. All three offer links to e-mail, calendar and other features.

Businesses, schools and non-profit groups can now set up individual Google home 
pages with shared news feeds, calendars, and expense systems, among various
options. The rest is defined by users, who can add dozens of instantly updating 
features.

"The real difference here is that Google is pushing a powerful tool to 
companies for free," said Chris Hazelton, an analyst of small-business 
collaboration
tools with IDC based in Framingham, Massachusetts.

At first glance, Google start pages are nothing more than what any consumer 
gets for free from the personalized home page service on Google.com. What's
new is that groups can now offer custom home pages to employees, students or 
group members.

Anticipating Google's moves, Microsoft, the world's biggest software maker, has 
responded by introducing Windows "Live" --Web-based software for small business
and consumers.

Google's main appeal remains to users of its Web search and ad systems. By 
packaging business software, it is responding to demands by network 
administrators
who prefer to manage a standard set of software for organizations. Many are 
cracking down on individual consumer programs within their networks.

"Organizations and users want that same level of usability from Google 
products," Mike Horowitz, product manager for the Google Apps start page 
feature,
said of demands by businesses.

In industry jargon, the organizational home page feature is akin to Web-based 
"employee portals" like Microsoft SharePoint, which collaboration software
makers provide to organizations.

"This is not a walled garden, which is really what portals have become," 
Horowitz said.

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Re: [AI] Eyeway: Yeh Hai Roshni Ka Karawan - feedback solicited

2006-11-14 Thread Pranay Gadodia
Hi Smriti,
Thanks for your suggestion. It has been noted for the future productions.
Would like to talk to you in detail, so could you get in touch with us or 
let me have your contact number offlist.

best,

Pranay Gadodia,
Content Research Officer,
Score Foundation.
125B, Shahpur Jat,
New Delhi - 110 049
INDIA.

Mobile: +91 98917 91089
Phone: +91 - 11 - 2649 4582/81
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Website: www.eyeway.org

- Original Message - 
From: "smriti singh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Eyeway: Yeh Hai Roshni Ka Karawan - feedback solicited


Ireally appriciate your initiatives coming initiative.
I wanted to specify that you should raise issue of
visually challenged women. Most Emphatically, it is
really appriciable that you are interviewing
successful women in their professional field. But I
would like suggest again that it is very important to
pick up issue of marriage. Because still among
visually challenged man and in visual society there is
myth about their capability of managing domestic
affairs. There are many visually challenged girls in
their day-to-day life are sexually exploited. If this
issue will not be raised by media then who is going to
raise such issue. I found this NGO doing better work
than other NGOS that is why I have responded, if you
need any help regarding it then I am ready to help.
With regard
 Pranay Gadodia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi Smriti,
> Thanks for the prompt response  and in first place
> appreciating the radio
> programme.
>
> My answers to your questions are as below:
> You wrote : But kindly tell me that why this
> programme is revolving around
> one particular institution? and why those people who
> are pursuing their
> higher-education in best institutions of Asia are
> not given attention?
> Pranay: I dont know to which institution you are
> pointing to. We have called
> in people for the interview and the advice section
> as per their
> achievements, struggle, availability for recording,
> available time and
> resources to reach out to them if they are outside
> delhi. There are still
> many more people in our databank remaining whom we
> haven't able to feature
> on the show because we are completing just 52
> episodes and there are lot
> many more to come. Apart from people of delhi, we
> have featured people from
> Mumbai, Ahmedabad & baroda, Kolkata, Hyderabad,
> Chennai, men and women both,
> in varied professions / vocations. Also we would
> appreciate any specific
> suggestions in this regard.
>
> You wrote: As it cannot be deny that employment
> issue is very important but
> it does not mean that locus of the programme should
> be employment only.
> I emphatically would like to suggeest that problems
> of the marriage, gender
> harassment that particularly visually challenged
> women has to face must be
> given
> attention in this programme.
> Pranay:  In the advice section we take different
> issues pertinent to
> visually impaired people. Apart from talking on
> different employment options
> for blind people, in these 52 episodes we have
> discussed topics like
> personality development & grooming, keeping oneself
> fit, sports, exercises,
> low vision rehabilitation, few advice sections on
> different eye problems,
> eye donation, banking for blind people, braille,
> access technology,
> education, keeping oneself informed, parenting,
> sharing by sighted spouse of
> blind person etc Again we would be happy to receive
> and do advice section on
> many other different issues of visually impaired
> people which specific to us
> or general in nature.
>
> One thing which we would like to cover better in the
> upcoming programmes is
> taking issues pertinent more to the people of rural
> India, people who were
> not fortunate in getting good education. We found a
> good listener base in
> smaller towns and villages and they have been
> continously contacting us.
>
>
> thanks and regards,
> Pranay Gadodia,
> Content Research Officer,
> Score Foundation.
> 125B, Shahpur Jat,
> New Delhi - 110 049
> INDIA.
>
> Phone: +91 - 11 - 2649 4582/81
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Website: www.eyeway.org
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "smriti singh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 6:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Eyeway: Yeh Hai Roshni Ka Karawan
> - feedback solicited
>
>
>
>
> --- Pranay Gadodia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Dear friends,
> > Many of you know and some of you also listen to
> our
> > radio show Eyeway: Yeh Hai Roshni Ka Karawan. This
> > show is packed with lots of information and
> > inspiration for people with visual impairment, for
> > all those who deal with the domain of eye and
> > blindness and for society in general.
> >
> > We started airing it on 17th november 2005 in six
> > cities namely Delhi, Mumbai, Kolkata, Lucknow,
> > Ahmedabad and Hyderabad. All these stations air on
> > different days of the weeks and at different time.
> >
> > W

Re: [AI] Members pl take note of using blind in communication

2006-11-14 Thread smriti singh
I also agree with Viraj that language is arbitrary  it
is not natural. This is my research topic and I have
found 
--- that there is negativity added to blind, blindness
or Andha and Andhapan. If we are not going to
de-construct such association they who is going to
turn it around? That is why to break out this myth
around us it is necessary in today's world to use this
world in most specific way by this we can challenge to
visual world. This is how we will achieve in our
society empowerment.
RegardsRajani G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Dear members,
> I hope many of you on the list agree with me that it
> is better that we
> atleast do not or stop using the word Blind and
> start using visually
> challenged in our conversation.  I feel the phrase
> is more polite and
> doesnot hurt the feelings who are visually
> challenged.
> let us try to use it in our communication.
> Rajani
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[AI] Samsung Tells Future of Cell Phones

2006-11-14 Thread Vikas Kapoor
Samsung Tells Future of Cell Phones

Nov 14, 2006

SINGAPORE -- Mobile phones will undergo a dramatic transformation over the next 
few years, incorporating more powerful processors and more storage, as well
as new technologies, a Samsung Electronics research and development executive 
said today.

The addition of these technologies will dramatically expand the
capability of mobile handsets ,
which will have sensors to monitor a user's health and offer a wider range of 
entertainment and online services, such as shopping, said Kang-Hun Lee, vice
president of Samsung's Next-Generation Terminals Team. Voice will remain a 
"basic capability" of these devices, he said.

"We are pretty much focusing on the multimedia capabilities," Lee said.

Cell Phone Holograms

By 2010 or so,
handsets
will use flexible or holographic displays and could have processors that run at 
clock speeds up to 5GHz, Lee said. In addition, they may pack up to 10GB
of flash memory or hard disks that can hold 20GB of data or more, he said.

Future handsets will also include more advanced cameras, capable of capturing 
3-D and holographic images, and rely on fuel cells or solar panels for power,
Lee said. Future handsets will switch seamlessly from one network to another, 
moving between cellular networks, mobile WiMax, and other networks, he said.

While much of the new technologies have yet to move beyond the R and sD lab, 
Samsung anticipates the gradual addition of new technologies and capabilities
into its handsets .
For example, Samsung will next year put a 1GHz StrongArm processor inside a 
mobile phone, Lee said.

In June, Samsung revealed it plans to add mobile Wimax support to a Global 
System for Mobile Communications (GSM) handset. That handset is due to hit the
market during the first half of 2007, said Hwan Woo Chung, a vice president at 
Samsung's Mobile WiMax Group, speaking at that time.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,127852-pg,1-RSS,RSS/article.html

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Re: [AI] Members pl take note of using blind in communication

2006-11-14 Thread YADAVDN
"Charity begins at home" they say.  So if we want others to use nice words
for us instead of 'blind' or so, we should care to use nice words amongst
ourselves too I suppose unlike somebody who thinks we need not care for
'niceties amongst us.  Remember if we want our children to call us with a
respectful word, we will have to tender same delicacies to our father as
example to our children.  Unless we care to learn what tastes us good/bad,
others may have little scope to learn our tastes.  So I agree with Rajani we
should use healthy words to refer us, be here or elsewhere.

Regds,

 

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