Re: [AI] Banking again!

[Satguru Rathi]

Dear Himanshu ji,

Thanks for your response and for sharing the guidelines.

Here is an update today that now my bank officials are not denying me the 
facilities but they are saying that since they do not have propper 
technology to scann the thumb impression, they don't know about how to 
process the third party cheques. Can any one on the list who is using third 
party cheques to pay his electricity bills etc. share his experience and 
also a little note on the process that his bank has adapted to accomplish 
this?

Thanks.


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- Original Message - 
From: "Himanshu Sahu" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Banking again!


Hi Satguru,
Here is the guideline issued from Judiciary,Finance Ministry and RBI,
which allows us to use most of the banking services.  Hope it would
help to understand our rights and limitations.


"Banking Facilities to the Visually Impaired Persons"
In compliance with the directives from the Court of Chief Commissioner
of Persons with Disabilities
and at the instance of Ministry of Finance, Govt. of India and Reserve
Bank of India, the Indian
Banks’ Association (IBA) has framed procedural guidelines, as detailed
hereinafter, for the member
banks for providing banking facilities to visually impaired persons.
It has been decided by the Bank to implement the procedural
guidelines, as aforesaid, for providing
banking facilities to visually impaired persons in respect of the
banking services offered by the Bank.
Procedural Guidelines for Providing
Banking Facilities to Visually Impaired Persons
1.0 General Instructions
i) Banking facilities for visually impaired persons should be offered
by all branches of banks.
ii) Banks should not equate visually impaired customers with
illiterate customers.
iii) All banks must provide the same facilities to a visually impaired
customer/ prospective
customer as it would do so for any other customer. But at the same
time, the customers
should be made aware of the risk associated with some of the
facilities, which may be
higher than that for a normal customer.
iv) Additional facilities like reading and filling up forms, slips,
cheques should be provided to a
visually impaired customer, if required.
v) Banks should not deny any services to visually impaired customers
including those who
use their thumb impression for operating the bank account.
vi) A visually impaired customer must not be forced to operate the
bank account jointly with
any person or in the presence of any person.
vii) Visually impaired customers may be allowed to appoint a person/
persons as their Power
of Attorney or Mandate Holder to operate their bank account, if they so 
desire.
1.1 Opening of Bank Accounts
i) All banking products offered by a bank should be made available to
visually impaired
persons.
ii) A bank must follow the same procedure for opening the account of a
visually impaired
person as it does for its other customers.
iii) A visually impaired person must be allowed to open the account
either singly or jointly
with others.
iv) A bank must allow the visually impaired customer to open a joint
account with anybody
that he/ she chooses, including person(s) who is/ are visually impaired.
v) The Officer/Manager of the branch should read out the rules of
business and other terms
and conditions in the presence of a witness, if required by the customer.
vi) The Branch Manager must inform a visually impaired customer/
prospective customer of
his/ her rights and liabilities before opening the account.
2
vii) The documentation requirements of a visually impaired customer
must be the same as
applicable to any other customer.
viii)The account has to be clearly marked as “The account holder is
visually impaired”.
1.2 Withdrawal of cash / cheque book facility
i) Facilities for withdrawal of cash, as provided to all customers
regarding cash payments,
must be provided to visually impaired customers.
ii) In case a visually impaired customer makes cash withdrawals at the
bank then the
payment must be made in the presence of another bank employee/
officer. No outside
witnesses are required unless the visually impaired customer requests
that such witness be
present.
iii) Operations should not be restricted to self withdrawals.
iv) Cheque book facility should not be denied to visually impaired person.
v) All procedures pertaining to the use of such cheque books by
visually impaired customers
must be in accordance with that followed in respect of other customers.
vi) Cheques issued by visually impaired persons to third parties
should be honoured, if
otherwise in order.
1.3 Credit Cards/Debit Cards
i) Visually impaired customers must be issued Credit Cards/ Debit
Cards on request.
ii) A

Re: [AI] JAWS 10 and hindi

[suman bhokray]

hi download the file from
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3694147/espeak-1.42.30-win/espeak-1.42.30-win/setup_espeak.exe
now open it and click next
click next again
at this stage you need to enter voice codes
first 2 boxes r all reddy entered
go to the emty box and type
hi+f7
it should be the same
click next
now click instal
the setup starts
when dun uncheck readme and click feenish
thats! it!
now tell jaws to use this hindi voice
open jaws
go to options menu
go to voices sub menu
click global voices
click sapy5 at sinthasizer box
click hindi at language box
enjoy hindi jaws for free
Suman Kumar Bhokray
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On 1/29/10, Amiyo Biswas  wrote:
> Hello,
> I have Lekha and it's pretty good for Hindi. I don't know if it is free or
> not. It never asks for license key or anything like that. Moreover, once
> installed, it works with both Jaws and NVDA. I believe, it's free. Write to
> me privately if you want me to upload it. If it is not free, please let me
> know.
>
> With Best regards,
> Amiyo Biswas.
> Cell: 91-9433464329
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Rohith P" 
> To: ; 
> Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 7:50 AM
> Subject: Re: [AI] JAWS 10 and hindi
>
>
>> hi
>> is lekha a free software? where do i get it from?
>> thanks
>> rohith
>>
>>
>> On 1/28/10, Swati Sinha  wrote:
>>> Install lekha.
>>> Hope this helps.
>>> With regards,
>>> Swati Sinha
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
>>> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Asudani,
>>> Rajesh
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 2:18 PM
>>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>> Subject: [AI] JAWS 10 and hindi
>>>
>>> Friends
>>> I have jaws 10 installed on PC without JAWS 9.
>>> Now, how can I make it read Hindi?
>>> Rajesh
>>>
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[AI] in response to queries on jaws, windoweyes, NVDA and system access to go

[prateek aggarwal]

hello everyone,
Recently, I had been addressed for some queries on jaws, windoweyes,
NVDA, and system access to go.
MS shilpa has asked about tutorials of all of these softwares, and
wanted to know details of system access to go.
Two e-mails have been sent in this regards. Since the topic is pretty
much the same, here’s my response combining both the e-mails.

Jaws:
A nice tutorial on jaws can be found at
http://atto.buffalo.edu/registered/Tutorials/jaws/index.php
in adition, The official website of freedomscientific provides a
number of tutorials and documentation about JFW (jaws for windows).
Here are some old, but nice audio ttutorial found on freedomscientific website:
http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_downloads/jawsdemo_audio.asp

windoweyes:
the GW micro offers nice audio tutorials to describe the
functionalities of windoweyes.
These can either be downloaded or heard online  at
http://www.gwmicro.com/Audio_Video_Archive/Window-Eyes_Tutorials/

NVDA:
Here’s a nice article in tutorial form that describes key features of
NVDA specially in a perspective of new users.
http://www.gwmicro.com/Audio_Video_Archive/Window-Eyes_Tutorials/
though documentations on official website of NVDA too are  amazing enough.

System access to go:
As akhil has perhaps described  it pretty well, system access to go is
a screen reader that’s free, and aims to provide access of internet
and else on the fly.
One can start using the same by loging in  to
www.satogo.com
there you ffind a link called “begin”, which will show a dialogue
similar to download dialogue box.
Tutorial on same can be found on
www.satogo.com

hope it helps.
Regards,
Prateek agarwal.
Skype:
Prateek_agarwal32
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Re: [AI] JAWS 10 and hindi

[Amiyo Biswas]

Hello,
I have Lekha and it's pretty good for Hindi. I don't know if it is free or 
not. It never asks for license key or anything like that. Moreover, once 
installed, it works with both Jaws and NVDA. I believe, it's free. Write to 
me privately if you want me to upload it. If it is not free, please let me 
know.


With Best regards,
Amiyo Biswas.
Cell: 91-9433464329

- Original Message - 
From: "Rohith P" 

To: ; 
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 7:50 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] JAWS 10 and hindi



hi
is lekha a free software? where do i get it from?
thanks
rohith


On 1/28/10, Swati Sinha  wrote:

Install lekha.
Hope this helps.
With regards,
Swati Sinha


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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Asudani, 
Rajesh

Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 2:18 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] JAWS 10 and hindi

Friends
I have jaws 10 installed on PC without JAWS 9.
Now, how can I make it read Hindi?
Rajesh


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Re: [AI] Hi! E63 and N79 are fully talks supported now.

[prateek aggarwal]

Gosh,
Someone  please save me from this inane!
Moderator, where are you, please look at this  disgusting mail on the list.
Mr. pratap, even though I’ve seen a number of mails here  who talks
about cracks, but this is perhaps the most forthright message I’ve
ever seen on accessindia list.
Amazingly, the expression of helping people with crack softwares was
pretty open.
The list is not made for your illegal actions, so
Of course, you’re gone from the list in just a while, I would have
banned the given mobile number as well if I could.
Regards,
Prateek agarwal.
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You tell, I’ll build.


 -- Original  message --
From: "Pradip Chandra Sikdar" 
To: Access India 
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 08:26:46 +0530
Subject: [AI] Hi! E63 and N79 are fully talks supported now.
Hi access Indians!
I'm Pradip Chandra Sikdar from Kolkata.
Some days ago, some of you wanted to know whether E63 and N79 fully
talks supported or not.
The answer is yes.
I've personally installed in 1 N79 and 2 E63 handsets and it works.
But if you like to buy E63 then, you must have to installed
nuance talks v4.11.3 in it.
Keep it in mind that, if you like to use a crack version,
you have to hack your device or signed your software 1st.
Nokia devices belong to s60 3rd platform do not support unsigned application.
So if you ever fall in trouble to sign your app,
I'll try to help you.
Though, signing app is not totally free.
It costs at least rs 199.
Still, it is chiefer than the original version.
So, don't hesited to buy a new handset.
If any of you like to use mobile speak, I'll try to help you also.
With regards,
Pradip :-)
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Re: [AI] For the Blind, digital misgivings

[Sanjay]

I still remember comments made by print readers when Amazon released its
Kindle Book reader.  I was taken aback when many print readers said they
enjoy holding and reading a book, the smell of a book, and some of them also
admired the tactile affection which they get from a printed material.  Even
turning pages while reading is a pleasing experience for book lovers
including sighted and blind folks.  I feel no need to mention here the
tactile intimacy which we derive from Braille books.
   As an avid Braille reader, I am also using computer as a reading machine
less by choice more by compulsion.  The need of the hour is to design an
affordable Braille display for Braille users of third world countries.  If
blind teachers are qualified enough to generate interest in Braille and
impart proper Braille skills to blind children, the future of Braille will
always be bright.  There is no way to read/study in  noisy places like
trains, buses, public gatherings etc other than Braille.  I also admire the
efforts of some organisations which are promoting Braille.  Perhaps
bulkiness of books and high cost of production also made braille unpopular.








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[AI] info on availability of braille embossers in india.

[solomon s]

Hello access indians! Greetings to you all! A resource teacher with a school is 
looking for cost effective brail embosser. Could somebody in this list provide 
contact information of NGO/enterprise?  What about  webel mediatronics, 
kolkata? Your valuable suggestions/help is urgent. Hoping to hearing from you 
soon. With warm regards solomon. teachs...@gmail.com




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Re: [AI] System Access To Go

[Akhilesh Malani]

Hi Silpa and all,

I forgot to mention the web link in which you can find the complete
information about System access to go.
Please click on below web link:

http://serotek.com/

NOTE:  Clicking the link(s) may give an error indicating that it is
invalid.  If this occurs, copy the link and paste it on the address
bar in your browser until the complete address is displayed in the
Address box.

On 1/29/10, Akhilesh Malani  wrote:
> Hi to all,
>
> Here is the info below.
>
> Basically Serotek announced system access to go. With SATOGO you can
> walk up to any computer that is hooked up to the internet and has
> sound and have access
> to Serotek system access simply by typing in the address
> www.satogo.com from the run dialog on the computer. Once you hit enter
> within seconds SATOGO will
> announce itself on the computer and audibly take you through loggin in
> and running the system access program. Once you login you have
> complete access to
> the computer that you are on without having to bring any screen
> readers with you.
>
> I think this is revolutionary. It will benefit any blind computer user
> regardless as to what screen reader they currently use. You will have
> total freedom
> and access to any computer anywhere now. A huge leap in accessibility for
> us.
>
> Currently SATOGO is free while it is in beta and will be able to be
> purchased either monthly or annually at affordable rates once it goes
> pay. Serotek
> stated that SATOGO would be free for some time to come though, so this is
> great.
>
> Hope this info has answered your Query.
>
> On 1/29/10, silpa  wrote:
>> Hi Prateek and All:
>>
>>
>>
>> I need info about System Access To Go.
>>
>>
>>
>> Is a demo version of this screen reader available?
>>
>> If so for how many days?
>>
>>
>>
>> And I would like to know the cost of a licensed copy of it.
>>
>>
>>
>> If anybody on the list had already used this screen reader, I would like
>> to
>> know their views.
>>
>>
>>
>> Where can I get notes and tutorial on this?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks and regards,
>>
>> Silpa.
>>
>>
>>
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>
>
> --
> "When I Am Here, Then Why Do You Fear"
>
> Thanks and regards
>
> Akhilesh Malani
> Transition processing officer.
> Mphasis
> Kshema Dhama, no.1-Globle Village,
> Mysore road,
> Bangalore-560059
> Bangalore's mob no- +919620133716, +919342232100
>  Chennai's Mob no: +919840226825
> Skype id: akhi_25thcentury
> E-mail id: malani.akhil...@gmail.com
>


-- 
"When I Am Here, Then Why Do You Fear"

Thanks and regards

Akhilesh Malani
Transition processing officer.
Mphasis
Kshema Dhama, no.1-Globle Village,
Mysore road,
Bangalore-560059
Bangalore's mob no- +919620133716, +919342232100
 Chennai's Mob no: +919840226825
Skype id: akhi_25thcentury
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Re: [AI] System Access To Go

[Akhilesh Malani]

Hi to all,

Here is the info below.

Basically Serotek announced system access to go. With SATOGO you can
walk up to any computer that is hooked up to the internet and has
sound and have access
to Serotek system access simply by typing in the address
www.satogo.com from the run dialog on the computer. Once you hit enter
within seconds SATOGO will
announce itself on the computer and audibly take you through loggin in
and running the system access program. Once you login you have
complete access to
the computer that you are on without having to bring any screen
readers with you.

I think this is revolutionary. It will benefit any blind computer user
regardless as to what screen reader they currently use. You will have
total freedom
and access to any computer anywhere now. A huge leap in accessibility for us.

Currently SATOGO is free while it is in beta and will be able to be
purchased either monthly or annually at affordable rates once it goes
pay. Serotek
stated that SATOGO would be free for some time to come though, so this is great.

Hope this info has answered your Query.

On 1/29/10, silpa  wrote:
> Hi Prateek and All:
>
>
>
> I need info about System Access To Go.
>
>
>
> Is a demo version of this screen reader available?
>
> If so for how many days?
>
>
>
> And I would like to know the cost of a licensed copy of it.
>
>
>
> If anybody on the list had already used this screen reader, I would like to
> know their views.
>
>
>
> Where can I get notes and tutorial on this?
>
>
>
> Thanks and regards,
>
> Silpa.
>
>
>
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-- 
"When I Am Here, Then Why Do You Fear"

Thanks and regards

Akhilesh Malani
Transition processing officer.
Mphasis
Kshema Dhama, no.1-Globle Village,
Mysore road,
Bangalore-560059
Bangalore's mob no- +919620133716, +919342232100
 Chennai's Mob no: +919840226825
Skype id: akhi_25thcentury
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[AI] System Access To Go

[silpa]

Hi Prateek and All:



I need info about System Access To Go.



Is a demo version of this screen reader available?

If so for how many days?



And I would like to know the cost of a licensed copy of it.



If anybody on the list had already used this screen reader, I would like to 
know their views.



Where can I get notes and tutorial on this?



Thanks and regards,

Silpa.



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[AI] Hi! E63 and N79 are fully talks supported now.

[Pradip Chandra Sikdar]

Hi access Indians!
I'm Pradip Chandra Sikdar from Kolkata.
Some days ago, some of you wanted to know whether E63 and N79 fully talks 
supported or not.
The answer is yes.
I've personally installed in 1 N79 and 2 E63 handsets and it works.
But if you like to buy E63 then, you must have to installed
nuance talks v4.11.3 in it.
Keep it in mind that, if you like to use a crack version,
you have to hack your device or signed your software 1st.
Nokia devices belong to s60 3rd platform do not support unsigned application.
So if you ever fall in trouble to sign your app,
I'll try to help you.
Though, signing app is not totally free.
It costs at least rs 199.
Still, it is chiefer than the original version.
So, don't hesited to buy a new handset.
If any of you like to use mobile speak, I'll try to help you also.
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[AI] Fwd: Public Beta Mobile Geo 2.0, Now Available

[Arup Chakraborty]

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Factory’s CEO. “We decided to launch version 2.0 as a public beta
because we are still testing and making improvements. Therefore the
public beta means that in the next couple of months we will release
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Re: [AI] JAWS 10 and hindi

[Rohith P]

hi
is lekha a free software? where do i get it from?
thanks
rohith


On 1/28/10, Swati Sinha  wrote:
> Install lekha.
> Hope this helps.
> With regards,
> Swati Sinha
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> I have jaws 10 installed on PC without JAWS 9.
> Now, how can I make it read Hindi?
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[AI] "Make websites of Central departments disab led-friendly"

[Gopalakrishnan]

"Make websites of Central departments disabled-friendly" 


Special Correspondent 









D. Napoleon 

TIRUCHI: The Union Ministry of Social Justice and Empowerment has requested 
Central government departments and agencies to make their websites 
disabled-friendly through the use of assistive technologies, said D. Napoleon, 
Union Minister of State for Social Justice and Empowerment, here on Thursday.

The Ministry of Social Justice website already complies with World Wide Web 
Consortium (W3C) Web Content Accessibility Guidelines (WCAG) 2.0 level AA. 
Assistive technologies such as screen readers and speech recognition support 
have already been incorporated on its website. 

This would enable people with visual and mobility impairment and senior 
citizens to access the site. 

There were about 6,000 websites of Central agencies and organisations. 

All the agencies should follow suit as it was essential for persons with 
disabilities to know about the schemes implemented for their welfare by the 
government, he told reporters. 

Conceding that there was a need to make public infrastructure more 
disabled-friendly, Mr. Napoleon said as per 2001 figures there were about 2.19 
crore persons with disabilities in the country of which 1.06 crore were 
visually impaired. 

The government was giving away awards to encourage districts, civic bodies and 
States to encourage them make their infrastructure disabled-friendly. 

All new public buildings were required, by law, to be disabled-friendly.

Mr. Napoleon said that his Ministry had sought a substantial increase in the 
annual allocation in the next budget. 


Among the new schemes proposed were opening of senior citizens homes and 
sanction of Rs.10 lakh for panchayats, with 50 per cent and more scheduled 
caste people in their population for improving civic infrastructure.



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Re: [AI] KPCC cell for the differently abled

[harish]

Hello

Is it not one's own choice what he wants to make of himself?

What are we debating this for?
Harish.

- Original Message - 
From: "Subramani L" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 3:28 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] KPCC cell for the differently abled



Sorry, it looks like I am responding to this thread many times... But am
fascinated by point 4. If such a thing doesn't exist, why not create one
and measure our performance? The thing is you seem to believe that any
comparison of our performance with the mainstream -which is extremely
better equipped- will discourage us (or at least that is what you seem
to suggest), but my understanding is that I have not seen any disability
(let me emphasise ANYONE WITH DISABILITY) who has lesser motivation or
inferior performance levels to that of the mainstream. Competing with
them only makes us better and we are motivated to do that. If the
mountain moves, it's fine, if not we will at least have stronger
shoulders trying it.

Subramani



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Rajesh
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 9:55 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] KPCC cell for the differently abled

Well, We have to excel in whatever we do. That is the approach to make
ourselves counted in a democracy.
As an approach it sounds good but let us consider some things:

1. Noboty disabled or able-bodied can excel in whatever s/he does.

2. A person with disability has to put in N fold more efforts and has to
encounter N number of more hardships to even approximate the average
level of functioning in general.

3. So the mandate of excellence as per general norm in all spheres of
activity is a tall order for a disabled person.

4. Society is not fine-tuned to calibrate the yardstic of performance
and excellence according to a persons disability and temperament.

5. So, we may say that a person with disability should try to do at his
best whatever s/he is  doing and widen the sphere of her/his activities,
without laying down something so vague as excellence.


regards
Rajesh
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[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of rahul
cherian
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 11:45 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] KPCC cell for the differently abled

hello pavan,

I believe that people with disability will be a vote bank if we can
organise
ourselves because there are about 10 crore people with disability in
India
alone. Till we organise ourselves, we will have to rely on the charity
model
where we beg for our rights and not a rights based model where we can
demand
our rights.

I agree with your approach of building confidence in people and i think
this
can be done not only by being service oriented and helping people but
also
being more active in mainstream activities, whether it be in
professions,
business or otherwise. Mainstream society has to look at people with
disability as being equal to them and not as a community that wants
sympathy. We should be fearless and challenge perceptions of people by
excelling in whatever we do. I feel that mainstream society has not had
the opportunity to interact enough with people with disability who are
not
stereotypes. We have to put our best foot forward to break the
stereotypes.

I think that meeting Mr. Jayaprakash Narayan and other leaders will be
very
useful. They must know that there is a sizable number of persons
with disabilities who are interested in politics and indeed in joining
politics. I wish you all the best in your endeavor.

Best regards,

Rahul

2010/1/25 l pavan 


hello list members!
to some extent i have followed the discurtion on above mentioned

issue.

 as one of you said blind may not have a vote bank.
but it should not deprive us from getting in to politics.
as of now we may not establish a new party.
but we may slowly buildup confidence in people by actively involving
in various activities that benifit people.
in this regards i personally we may think of approaching dr jaya
prakash narayan.
who started loksatta(with new politics for new generation)this is my
personal feeling iam sorry if i hurt
--
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Re: [AI] KPCC cell for the differently abled

[harish]

Hi Rahul

We are really moving towards an off-topic cenerio. The details can be taken 
off- the list.


In my view disability should not be the corner stone of a political 
movement. It should be in the spirit of inclusiveness and empaphy.


That would mean throwing out all the reservation out of the window and 
create a environment where reservation would not be required.


That is basically what we want to achieve, right? Forget about the able 
bodied, do you expect mass support of disbandoning reservation by the 
disabled themselves if an enabling environment is created?


We hate discrimination when it does not suit us and we walk an extra mile to 
fight for discrimination when it suits us. When it comes to things like IT 
benefits, we want to be labeled as disabled and those moments we don't think 
of equal wages for equal work.


Agreed at this moment we don't have an inclusive environment. Even if we 
did, we would still be asking for concessions and exemptions.


By this movement perhaps, we make a few leaders who would eventually think 
of their petty needs and wants and as usual the masses would be left astray 
to fight their own battles.


In abscence of a strong conviction, a compelling philosophy I don't think 
any realistic change would turn out this way.


What would our leaders give, some lolly pops, some more percentage in 
reservations and more holidays to be considered on duty?


A strong ism like the socialistic movement could move the people on the 
strength of its principles. Now, we have tasted what such ism's really mean.


We don't have a convincing political case nor a business case then who would 
fund this venture?


Political option is one of the option and by no means the only option. let 
us back that horse which has some possibility of getting some results.


On a lighter note, On this line imagine what fun it would be to see TB 
party, HIV positive party and  Diabetes party?


I am afraid I am not sounding optimistic which is contrary to my natural 
disposition and forcing myself a smile.


These are my personal thoughts on the subject and surely is not the official 
view of the list.


Harish.
- Original Message - 
From: "rahul cherian" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] KPCC cell for the differently abled



Hi Subramani,

I like the name. How do we go about this? Harish can we discuss this
initiative here in detail?

Best regards,

Rahul

2010/1/28 Subramani L 


If we ever do so, we must ccall it People for the Merit and Enablement
Party (PMEP).

Subramani



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Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 2:32 PM
To: vinod; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] KPCC cell for the differently abled

I agree with Vinod

2010/1/27 vinod 

> it is the need of the hour that we should think seriously about the
> empowerment of the disabled in th politicale field. If parties give us
our
> due it isalright. Otherwise we must unite and start our own party. How
long
> we will remain silent?
>
> - Original Message - From: "l pavan" 
> To: "accessindia" 
> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 10:59 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [AI] KPCC cell for the differently abled
>
>
>  hello list members!
>> to some extent i have followed the discurtion on above mentioned
issue.
>>  as one of you said blind may not have a vote bank.
>> but it should not deprive us from getting in to politics.
>> as of now we may not establish a new party.
>> but we may slowly buildup confidence in people by actively involving
>> in various activities that benifit people.
>> in this regards i personally we may think of approaching dr jaya
>> prakash narayan.
>> who started loksatta(with new politics for new generation)this is my
>> personal feeling iam sorry if i hurt
>> --
>> l.pavan("help ever & hurt never")
>>
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Re: [AI] DISABILITY OVERCOME

[rahul cherian]

I think we are talking about different things here. I believe that a person
can be said to have a fulfilling life if he or she has tried to do the best
he or she can. The results are not really relevant. This is the same whether
a person is disabled or not. But if we are talking about changing the
perception of society towards people with disability then we need to compete
in mainstream society and excel. I feel that a "compassionate" view of
achievements of a person with disability only reinforces the stereotype. And
by the way, I am enjoying this discussion because it is not often that I get
the opportunity to think about this kind of stuff and also get to know how
other people perceive this very important issue.

Rahul

2010/1/28 Subramani L 

> Again I don't question the accuracy of your argument, but if someone is
> limited in some ways by his/her disability they overcome it either
> through other's support or by their own extraordinary efforts. You can't
> say Beethoven has not lead a fulfilling life because he was unable to
> experience the beauty of his own compositions. Or for that matter, you
> can't dismiss Eric Vihenmire (forgive the spelling), for not having
> enjoyed the breathtaking view standing on top of Mt Everest. These are
> ways of overcoming disability too, though not in the way it is normally
> perceived. If we keep putting disability in front of them, as if it is
> an insurmountable barrier (or at least that is how the argument would
> sound to someone desperate to prove those who doubt his abilities), are
> we not guilty of breaking whatever little confidence they may have?
> Don't you think that we need to take a compassionate view of a person's
> accomplishment rather than taking the "right" view? (hey Rajesh I am
> trying to raise questions in order to keep the argument healthier, am
> sorry if you think this is offensive in any way. Also believe this is
> not deemed off topic or excessive, since these viewpoints clarify how as
> persons with disabilities we regard ourselves).
> Subramani
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Asudani,
> Rajesh
> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 4:26 PM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] DISABILITY OVERCOME
>
> Well Subramani,
> I am not objecting calling excellent as excellent, but disability is
> overcome when either a person does something which that particular
> disability prevents her from doing, or when she/he leads a fulfilling
> life in the general parlance.
> Spade may be called spade and not a saw.
> So, we may say that an autistic person is a memory wizard or something
> else, however, saying that he has overcome his disability connotes that
> his life is fulfilling according to generally accepted yardstics, which
> more often than not, is not the case.
> Let me hasten to add that a fulfilling life, though a subjective concept
> does include some essential experiences and pleasures without which it
> may justly be said to be lopsided or unfulfilling.
>
>
> Regards
>
> "Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create
> Him."
>
>--Arthur C. Clarke
>
> (Rajesh Asudani)
>
> Assistant General Manager,
> Reserve Bank of India
> Nagpur
> 09420397185
> O: 0712 2806676
> Res: 0712 2591349
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Subramani L
> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 3:23 PM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] DISABILITY OVERCOME
>
> Sorry Rajesh. I always approved your comments on many topics, but here I
> guess there is no harm in saying a person is excellent if he/she is
> indeed excellent.Considering the odds the person is against, the
> accomplishment is great. The scientific facts that you have given is
> beyond question, but if you go by that standard you can not call Albert
> Einstein a great scientist since he seems to have had very different
> brain formation and also is an autistic person.
>
> Subramani
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Asudani,
> Rajesh
> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 10:10 AM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] DISABILITY OVERCOME
>
> Okay, these may surely inspire some, but calling them disability
> overcome is a bit misplaced, me thinks.
>
> Autism sometimes manifests in such modes as to give one particular
> faculty an over development.
> So, saying that a person has lived a fulfilling life based on exemplary
> performance in one domain is not justified.
> It also sends wrong signals  regarding abilities of all autistic or
> disabled persons in general.
> Disability is being overcome in day to day lives by thousands of people
> without making news headlines.
> Th

Re: [AI] DISABILITY OVERCOME

[Subramani L]

Again I don't question the accuracy of your argument, but if someone is
limited in some ways by his/her disability they overcome it either
through other's support or by their own extraordinary efforts. You can't
say Beethoven has not lead a fulfilling life because he was unable to
experience the beauty of his own compositions. Or for that matter, you
can't dismiss Eric Vihenmire (forgive the spelling), for not having
enjoyed the breathtaking view standing on top of Mt Everest. These are
ways of overcoming disability too, though not in the way it is normally
perceived. If we keep putting disability in front of them, as if it is
an insurmountable barrier (or at least that is how the argument would
sound to someone desperate to prove those who doubt his abilities), are
we not guilty of breaking whatever little confidence they may have?
Don't you think that we need to take a compassionate view of a person's
accomplishment rather than taking the "right" view? (hey Rajesh I am
trying to raise questions in order to keep the argument healthier, am
sorry if you think this is offensive in any way. Also believe this is
not deemed off topic or excessive, since these viewpoints clarify how as
persons with disabilities we regard ourselves). 
Subramani 


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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Asudani,
Rajesh
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 4:26 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] DISABILITY OVERCOME

Well Subramani,
I am not objecting calling excellent as excellent, but disability is
overcome when either a person does something which that particular
disability prevents her from doing, or when she/he leads a fulfilling
life in the general parlance.
Spade may be called spade and not a saw.
So, we may say that an autistic person is a memory wizard or something
else, however, saying that he has overcome his disability connotes that
his life is fulfilling according to generally accepted yardstics, which
more often than not, is not the case.
Let me hasten to add that a fulfilling life, though a subjective concept
does include some essential experiences and pleasures without which it
may justly be said to be lopsided or unfulfilling.


Regards

"Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create
Him."

--Arthur C. Clarke

(Rajesh Asudani)

Assistant General Manager,
Reserve Bank of India
Nagpur
09420397185
O: 0712 2806676
Res: 0712 2591349



-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Subramani L
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 3:23 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] DISABILITY OVERCOME

Sorry Rajesh. I always approved your comments on many topics, but here I
guess there is no harm in saying a person is excellent if he/she is
indeed excellent.Considering the odds the person is against, the
accomplishment is great. The scientific facts that you have given is
beyond question, but if you go by that standard you can not call Albert
Einstein a great scientist since he seems to have had very different
brain formation and also is an autistic person.

Subramani



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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Asudani,
Rajesh
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 10:10 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] DISABILITY OVERCOME

Okay, these may surely inspire some, but calling them disability
overcome is a bit misplaced, me thinks.

Autism sometimes manifests in such modes as to give one particular
faculty an over development.
So, saying that a person has lived a fulfilling life based on exemplary
performance in one domain is not justified.
It also sends wrong signals  regarding abilities of all autistic or
disabled persons in general.
Disability is being overcome in day to day lives by thousands of people
without making news headlines.
The case where performance is abnormal should be reported as such and
not as disability overcome.
Rajesh

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Subject: Re: [AI] DISABILITY OVERCOME

Very Inspiring stories. My favorite is the one about Wagner who broke
the
world record for speed. That accomplishment seems unimaginable.



2010/1/26 Saravanan Ramadoss 

>
> Subject: DISABILITY OVERCOME
>
> A man born blind and diagnosed with autism at age 5 is proving to the
>
> world that his disabilities will never limit him from achieving
>
> greatness.
>
> Tony DeBlois has an amazing story. At only two years old, Tony played
>
> "Twinkle, Twinkle, Little Star" on a small organ that his mother
>
> had bought at a yard sale. It shocked his mother, who knew tha

Re: [AI] JAWS 10 and hindi

[Swati Sinha]

Install lekha. 
Hope this helps. 
With regards, 
Swati Sinha


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Friends
I have jaws 10 installed on PC without JAWS 9.
Now, how can I make it read Hindi?
Rajesh


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Re: [AI] Jaws scripts for skype required

[Ravi Paul]

Visit the following page:
http://users.visi.com/~dgl/skype/
Regards, Ravi Paul

On 1/28/10, Surinder  wrote:
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>
> I need Jaws script for skype 4.
> >From where can I get it.
>
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Re: [AI] FW: status of NGOs

[SC Vashishth]

 Dear Rajesh,

The two registrations that many are confused about are very clear. One is
the registration under a Society/Trust/Cooperative/Company (non-profit) that
any organisation will eventually have to be a legal entity.

The second registration is done under the PWD Act/Mental Health Act/
National Trust Act for the institutions who are working on disability areas
concerning these Acts. Many organisation who were registered under Mental
Health Act were asked to be registered under Disability Act too which has
been recently clarified that Mental Health Act being a central Act (under
Ministry of Health), there is no requirement of separate registration under
PDA (read Min. of Social justice). However, National Trust being created
through an Act of Parliament, still desires that organisations wanting to be
registered under NT should be registered under PDA also. (perhaps they are
not keen on independence because both are under the common ministry.

So, as on date, Registration under PDA or MHA - both are sufficient to be
called as registered organisations under the Ministries of Govt. of India
for that matter. These registrations, which many organisations working on
disability have not obtained, are required under the law and have been
continued even in the amendment draft put up on the Website of the MSJE.

These registrations are done in each state by the Dept of Social
Justice/Welfare and there are certain norms to be eligible to be registred
under Persons With Disabilities Act. Such norms range from availablity of
RCI trained professional, barrier free infrastructure etc.
regards

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[AI] Check out my photos on Facebook

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[AI] entrance exams channel

[yogesh dubey]

hai frends I created a channel on inclusive planet as named entrance
exams. for sharing books and other data related to entrance exams. so
pls come and join us.

-- 
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Re: [AI] Will the iPad Kill the Kindle?

[Dinesh Kaushal]

Ooops, I missed the source, please try 
http://twitter.com/techradar


"An excellent plumber is infinitely more admirable than an incompetent
philosopher. The society which scorns excellence in plumbing because
plumbing is a humble activity and tolerates shoddiness in philosophy because
it is an exalted activity will have neither good plumbing nor good
philosophy. Neither its pipes nor its theories will hold water."

John Gardner

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[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Subramani L
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Subject: Re: [AI] Will the iPad Kill the Kindle?

Hai: 

Pl give me the source. Is this found in any of the Indian media? 

Subramani 

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Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 5:15 AM
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Subject: [AI] Will the iPad Kill the Kindle?

Following news is really exciting. Apple's ibook will be epub format.

 

 

Wednesday, January 27, 2010

Will the iPad Kill the Kindle?

The price and specs suggest that Apple's device will offer stiff
competition. 

By Erica Naone

It's not yet clear whether the iPad will live up to the breathless
excitement that surrounded its launch. But, from the specs alone, it
clearly
spells trouble for dedicated e-readers, particularly Amazon's larger
version
of the Kindle.

The Kindle DX is the same size as the iPad. It has a black and white
E-Ink
screen, 4 gigabytes of internal storage, 3G access and costs $489.
Meanwhile, the cheapest version of the iPad has a full-color touch
screen, a
powerful processor and graphics chip, 16 gigabytes of flash storage,
Wi-Fi
and sells for $499.

The cheaper iPad might not have 3G or the same battery life as the
Kindle DX
(up to 4 days), but on every other count it wins. It has both a gorgeous
screen and vastly more functionality. And, while Amazon has established
an
excellent, easy way to buy books, iTunes, which already has some 125
million
customers, will give it a run for its money.

During today's launch, Apple played down its move into the e-reader
market--the iBooks demo was buried in-between game demonstrations and a
long
explanation of the company's productivity software. But the iPad price
point
means that those considering a dedicated e-reader will be sorely tempted
by
an iPad. In addition, because an iTunes account can be used to purchase
e-books, Apple stands to capture a large audience of users readers who
want
to read a few e-books but would never buy a dedicated device.

The iBooks app also has access to the full catalogs of 5 major
publishers:
Penguin, HarperCollins, Simon & Schuster, Macmillan, and Hachette Book
Group. It also uses the standard ePub format, meaning that books
purchased
on this device will be compatible with other readers.

 

 

"An excellent plumber is infinitely more admirable than an incompetent
philosopher. The society which scorns excellence in plumbing because
plumbing is a humble activity and tolerates shoddiness in philosophy
because
it is an exalted activity will have neither good plumbing nor good
philosophy. Neither its pipes nor its theories will hold water."

 

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[AI] Jaws scripts for skype required

[Surinder]

Hi,

I need Jaws script for skype 4. 
>From where can I get it.

Thanks,

SN


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Re: [AI] DISABILITY OVERCOME

[rahul cherian]

My take on overcoming disability is this: people should look at you and
forget that you have a disability. You should be recognized for who you are
and not for your disability. Einstein is a good example because he is known
for things other than his disability. People know him as a genius who also
had autism and not primarily as a person with autism. Beethoven is famous
not because he is deaf, but because he wrote great music. This in my opinion
is when you overcome your disability. Of course, everyone cannot be an
Einstein or a Beethoven but we can try and reach a level where people around
us forget about our disability and judge us only on what we do, and not the
effort it took for us to do it.

2010/1/28 Asudani, Rajesh 

> Well Subramani,
> I am not objecting calling excellent as excellent, but disability is
> overcome when either a person does something which that particular
> disability prevents her from doing, or when she/he leads a fulfilling life
> in the general parlance.
> Spade may be called spade and not a saw.
> So, we may say that an autistic person is a memory wizard or something
> else, however, saying that he has overcome his disability connotes that his
> life is fulfilling according to generally accepted yardstics, which more
> often than not, is not the case.
> Let me hasten to add that a fulfilling life, though a subjective concept
> does include some essential experiences and pleasures without which it may
> justly be said to be lopsided or unfulfilling.
>
>
> Regards
>
> "Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create
> Him."
>
>--Arthur C. Clarke
>
> (Rajesh Asudani)
>
> Assistant General Manager,
> Reserve Bank of India
> Nagpur
> 09420397185
> O: 0712 2806676
> Res: 0712 2591349
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:
> accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Subramani L
> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 3:23 PM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] DISABILITY OVERCOME
>
> Sorry Rajesh. I always approved your comments on many topics, but here I
> guess there is no harm in saying a person is excellent if he/she is
> indeed excellent.Considering the odds the person is against, the
> accomplishment is great. The scientific facts that you have given is
> beyond question, but if you go by that standard you can not call Albert
> Einstein a great scientist since he seems to have had very different
> brain formation and also is an autistic person.
>
> Subramani
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Asudani,
> Rajesh
> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 10:10 AM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] DISABILITY OVERCOME
>
> Okay, these may surely inspire some, but calling them disability
> overcome is a bit misplaced, me thinks.
>
> Autism sometimes manifests in such modes as to give one particular
> faculty an over development.
> So, saying that a person has lived a fulfilling life based on exemplary
> performance in one domain is not justified.
> It also sends wrong signals  regarding abilities of all autistic or
> disabled persons in general.
> Disability is being overcome in day to day lives by thousands of people
> without making news headlines.
> The case where performance is abnormal should be reported as such and
> not as disability overcome.
> Rajesh
>
> -Original Message-
> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of rahul
> cherian
> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 10:56 PM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] DISABILITY OVERCOME
>
> Very Inspiring stories. My favorite is the one about Wagner who broke
> the
> world record for speed. That accomplishment seems unimaginable.
>
>
>
> 2010/1/26 Saravanan Ramadoss 
>
> >
> > Subject: DISABILITY OVERCOME
> >
> > A man born blind and diagnosed with autism at age 5 is proving to the
> >
> > world that his disabilities will never limit him from achieving
> >
> > greatness.
> >
> > Tony DeBlois has an amazing story. At only two years old, Tony played
> >
> > "Twinkle, Twinkle, Little Star" on a small organ that his mother
> >
> > had bought at a yard sale. It shocked his mother, who knew that her
> >
> > son's mental abilities were affected in some way. It was later
> >
> > determined that Tony possesses a rare mind and is considered to be a
> >
> > musical savant.
> >
> > Tony attended the Perkins School for the Blind in Massachusetts where
> >
> > he took lessons and learned to play many of the instruments in his
> >
> > incredible repertoire. Tony's mother noticed that he was having
> >
> > difficulty with motor skills when doing simple tasks. So she taught
> >
> > him how to brush his teeth by asking him to pretend that he was
> >
> > playing the violin. He learned to brush his

Re: [AI] KPCC cell for the differently abled

[rahul cherian]

Hi Subramani,

I agree, let us spread the idea to the able bodied and
other disabilities and let everybody think about it. As a journalist, the
responsibility of planting the seed of this new idea and gathering support
is squarely in your hands. I am happy to do whatever I can. Do let me know
how I can help.

Best regards,

Rahul

2010/1/28 Subramani L 

> Hai Rahul:
>
> Your enthusiasm is admirable, but let me also remind you that "To
> everything there is a season and a time to every purpose under the
> heaven." So let the thought germinate and let others, which also include
> folks with other disabilities and also those able-bodied, come around
> and accept and support the idea.
>
> Subramani
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of rahul
> cherian
> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 3:30 PM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] KPCC cell for the differently abled
>
> Hi Subramani,
>
> I like the name. How do we go about this? Harish can we discuss this
> initiative here in detail?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Rahul
>
> 2010/1/28 Subramani L 
>
> > If we ever do so, we must ccall it People for the Merit and Enablement
> > Party (PMEP).
> >
> > Subramani
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
> > [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of rahul
> > cherian
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 2:32 PM
> > To: vinod; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> > Subject: Re: [AI] KPCC cell for the differently abled
> >
> > I agree with Vinod
> >
> > 2010/1/27 vinod 
> >
> > > it is the need of the hour that we should think seriously about the
> > > empowerment of the disabled in th politicale field. If parties give
> us
> > our
> > > due it isalright. Otherwise we must unite and start our own party.
> How
> > long
> > > we will remain silent?
> > >
> > > - Original Message - From: "l pavan" 
> > > To: "accessindia" 
> > > Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 10:59 PM
> > >
> > > Subject: Re: [AI] KPCC cell for the differently abled
> > >
> > >
> > >  hello list members!
> > >> to some extent i have followed the discurtion on above mentioned
> > issue.
> > >>  as one of you said blind may not have a vote bank.
> > >> but it should not deprive us from getting in to politics.
> > >> as of now we may not establish a new party.
> > >> but we may slowly buildup confidence in people by actively
> involving
> > >> in various activities that benifit people.
> > >> in this regards i personally we may think of approaching dr jaya
> > >> prakash narayan.
> > >> who started loksatta(with new politics for new generation)this is
> my
> > >> personal feeling iam sorry if i hurt
> > >> --
> > >> l.pavan("help ever & hurt never")
> > >>
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Re: [AI] DISABILITY OVERCOME

[Asudani, Rajesh]

Well Subramani,
I am not objecting calling excellent as excellent, but disability is overcome 
when either a person does something which that particular disability prevents 
her from doing, or when she/he leads a fulfilling life in the general parlance.
Spade may be called spade and not a saw.
So, we may say that an autistic person is a memory wizard or something else, 
however, saying that he has overcome his disability connotes that his life is 
fulfilling according to generally accepted yardstics, which more often than 
not, is not the case.
Let me hasten to add that a fulfilling life, though a subjective concept does 
include some essential experiences and pleasures without which it may justly be 
said to be lopsided or unfulfilling.


Regards

"Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create Him."

--Arthur C. Clarke

(Rajesh Asudani)

Assistant General Manager,
Reserve Bank of India
Nagpur
09420397185
O: 0712 2806676
Res: 0712 2591349



-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Subramani L
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 3:23 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] DISABILITY OVERCOME

Sorry Rajesh. I always approved your comments on many topics, but here I
guess there is no harm in saying a person is excellent if he/she is
indeed excellent.Considering the odds the person is against, the
accomplishment is great. The scientific facts that you have given is
beyond question, but if you go by that standard you can not call Albert
Einstein a great scientist since he seems to have had very different
brain formation and also is an autistic person.

Subramani



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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Asudani,
Rajesh
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 10:10 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] DISABILITY OVERCOME

Okay, these may surely inspire some, but calling them disability
overcome is a bit misplaced, me thinks.

Autism sometimes manifests in such modes as to give one particular
faculty an over development.
So, saying that a person has lived a fulfilling life based on exemplary
performance in one domain is not justified.
It also sends wrong signals  regarding abilities of all autistic or
disabled persons in general.
Disability is being overcome in day to day lives by thousands of people
without making news headlines.
The case where performance is abnormal should be reported as such and
not as disability overcome.
Rajesh

-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of rahul
cherian
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 10:56 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] DISABILITY OVERCOME

Very Inspiring stories. My favorite is the one about Wagner who broke
the
world record for speed. That accomplishment seems unimaginable.



2010/1/26 Saravanan Ramadoss 

>
> Subject: DISABILITY OVERCOME
>
> A man born blind and diagnosed with autism at age 5 is proving to the
>
> world that his disabilities will never limit him from achieving
>
> greatness.
>
> Tony DeBlois has an amazing story. At only two years old, Tony played
>
> "Twinkle, Twinkle, Little Star" on a small organ that his mother
>
> had bought at a yard sale. It shocked his mother, who knew that her
>
> son's mental abilities were affected in some way. It was later
>
> determined that Tony possesses a rare mind and is considered to be a
>
> musical savant.
>
> Tony attended the Perkins School for the Blind in Massachusetts where
>
> he took lessons and learned to play many of the instruments in his
>
> incredible repertoire. Tony's mother noticed that he was having
>
> difficulty with motor skills when doing simple tasks. So she taught
>
> him how to brush his teeth by asking him to pretend that he was
>
> playing the violin. He learned to brush his hair by playing the drums.
>
> Eventually, he was awarded a scholarship to the Berklee School of
>
> Music and later graduated summa cum laude. While he is very humble
>
> about his education and his talents, he is referred to as a prodigious
>
> savant, essentially an autistic genius. Considering the circumstances,
>
> it would be difficult to disagree.
>
> DeBlois, now 36 years old, can play a total of 22 instruments, leads
>
> a jazz band, and has recorded 6 CDs of his work.
>
> To access the original article, please go to
>
>
>
http://www.enterprisenews.com/lifestyle/x1672004061/Musician-proves-blin
dness-autism-are-no-barriers-to-success
>
> *
>
> Kim Peek is probably a man that few have heard of before. As obscure
>
> as his name may be, he was actually the inspiration for Dustin
>
> Hoffman's autistic savant character in the award-winning1988 movie,
>
> Rain Man. Mr. Peek recently passed away at the age of 58.
>
> Peek wa

Re: [AI] KPCC cell for the differently abled

[Subramani L]

Hai Rahul: 

Your enthusiasm is admirable, but let me also remind you that "To
everything there is a season and a time to every purpose under the
heaven." So let the thought germinate and let others, which also include
folks with other disabilities and also those able-bodied, come around
and accept and support the idea. 

Subramani 



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Hi Subramani,

I like the name. How do we go about this? Harish can we discuss this
initiative here in detail?

Best regards,

Rahul

2010/1/28 Subramani L 

> If we ever do so, we must ccall it People for the Merit and Enablement
> Party (PMEP).
>
> Subramani
>
>
>
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>
> I agree with Vinod
>
> 2010/1/27 vinod 
>
> > it is the need of the hour that we should think seriously about the
> > empowerment of the disabled in th politicale field. If parties give
us
> our
> > due it isalright. Otherwise we must unite and start our own party.
How
> long
> > we will remain silent?
> >
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> >> in various activities that benifit people.
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> >> prakash narayan.
> >> who started loksatta(with new politics for new generation)this is
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[AI] weather ap

[jean parker]

Vetri:


Thanks for the link to the weather program for mobile phones.  It works 
exactly as reported.  Very cool!

Jean




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Re: [AI] KPCC cell for the differently abled

[rahul cherian]

Hi Subramani,

I like the name. How do we go about this? Harish can we discuss this
initiative here in detail?

Best regards,

Rahul

2010/1/28 Subramani L 

> If we ever do so, we must ccall it People for the Merit and Enablement
> Party (PMEP).
>
> Subramani
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of rahul
> cherian
> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 2:32 PM
> To: vinod; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] KPCC cell for the differently abled
>
> I agree with Vinod
>
> 2010/1/27 vinod 
>
> > it is the need of the hour that we should think seriously about the
> > empowerment of the disabled in th politicale field. If parties give us
> our
> > due it isalright. Otherwise we must unite and start our own party. How
> long
> > we will remain silent?
> >
> > - Original Message - From: "l pavan" 
> > To: "accessindia" 
> > Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 10:59 PM
> >
> > Subject: Re: [AI] KPCC cell for the differently abled
> >
> >
> >  hello list members!
> >> to some extent i have followed the discurtion on above mentioned
> issue.
> >>  as one of you said blind may not have a vote bank.
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> >> as of now we may not establish a new party.
> >> but we may slowly buildup confidence in people by actively involving
> >> in various activities that benifit people.
> >> in this regards i personally we may think of approaching dr jaya
> >> prakash narayan.
> >> who started loksatta(with new politics for new generation)this is my
> >> personal feeling iam sorry if i hurt
> >> --
> >> l.pavan("help ever & hurt never")
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Re: [AI] Banking again!

[srikanth kanuri]

hope some people are using Cheques with the attestation of the banker on it.

On 1/28/10, Satguru Rathi  wrote:
> Dear list,
>
> I am again in need of some help from you all:
>
> I am going to have my salary account with Axis bank and have applied for
> following facilities:
> -Cheque book,
> -Internet banking and
> -ATM cum Debit card.
> here, let me clear that I am a 100% visually impaired person and do not sign
> and use my thumb impression instead.
> Now, the bank officials are ready to issue me cheque book on my thumb
> impression but the problem is that I shall only be able to withdraw money
> and will not be entitled to issue cheques to pay my bills etc. and then
> also, I would need a witness to withdraw my money which is again a setback
> for me. For ATM also, they say that they will issue me the ATM card only and
> not the Debit card.
>
> Now, may I request you all to please revert back if any of you is having the
> above mentioned facilities and use their thumb impression instead of
> signatures.
> Do mention about the bank also which is providing these facilities.
>
> You can write to me offline at satgurura...@yahoo.co.in to avoid traffic on
> the list.
>
> Hoping for your kind response
>
> Thanks.
>
> ___
> "Life's battle  do not always go, To the stronger or faster man. But sooner
> or later the one who wins, Is the one who thinks he Can."
>
> Satguru Rathi
>
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Re: [AI] KPCC cell for the differently abled

[Subramani L]

Sorry, it looks like I am responding to this thread many times... But am
fascinated by point 4. If such a thing doesn't exist, why not create one
and measure our performance? The thing is you seem to believe that any
comparison of our performance with the mainstream -which is extremely
better equipped- will discourage us (or at least that is what you seem
to suggest), but my understanding is that I have not seen any disability
(let me emphasise ANYONE WITH DISABILITY) who has lesser motivation or
inferior performance levels to that of the mainstream. Competing with
them only makes us better and we are motivated to do that. If the
mountain moves, it's fine, if not we will at least have stronger
shoulders trying it. 

Subramani 

  

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[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Asudani,
Rajesh
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 9:55 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] KPCC cell for the differently abled

Well, We have to excel in whatever we do. That is the approach to make
ourselves counted in a democracy.
As an approach it sounds good but let us consider some things:

1. Noboty disabled or able-bodied can excel in whatever s/he does.

2. A person with disability has to put in N fold more efforts and has to
encounter N number of more hardships to even approximate the average
level of functioning in general.

3. So the mandate of excellence as per general norm in all spheres of
activity is a tall order for a disabled person.

4. Society is not fine-tuned to calibrate the yardstic of performance
and excellence according to a persons disability and temperament.

5. So, we may say that a person with disability should try to do at his
best whatever s/he is  doing and widen the sphere of her/his activities,
without laying down something so vague as excellence.


regards
Rajesh
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cherian
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 11:45 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] KPCC cell for the differently abled

hello pavan,

I believe that people with disability will be a vote bank if we can
organise
ourselves because there are about 10 crore people with disability in
India
alone. Till we organise ourselves, we will have to rely on the charity
model
where we beg for our rights and not a rights based model where we can
demand
our rights.

I agree with your approach of building confidence in people and i think
this
can be done not only by being service oriented and helping people but
also
being more active in mainstream activities, whether it be in
professions,
business or otherwise. Mainstream society has to look at people with
disability as being equal to them and not as a community that wants
sympathy. We should be fearless and challenge perceptions of people by
excelling in whatever we do. I feel that mainstream society has not had
the opportunity to interact enough with people with disability who are
not
stereotypes. We have to put our best foot forward to break the
stereotypes.

I think that meeting Mr. Jayaprakash Narayan and other leaders will be
very
useful. They must know that there is a sizable number of persons
with disabilities who are interested in politics and indeed in joining
politics. I wish you all the best in your endeavor.

Best regards,

Rahul

2010/1/25 l pavan 

> hello list members!
> to some extent i have followed the discurtion on above mentioned
issue.
>  as one of you said blind may not have a vote bank.
> but it should not deprive us from getting in to politics.
> as of now we may not establish a new party.
> but we may slowly buildup confidence in people by actively involving
> in various activities that benifit people.
> in this regards i personally we may think of approaching dr jaya
> prakash narayan.
> who started loksatta(with new politics for new generation)this is my
> personal feeling iam sorry if i hurt
> --
> l.pavan("help ever & hurt never")
>
>
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Re: [AI] KPCC cell for the differently abled

[Subramani L]

I kind of get what Rajesh is saying, but irrespective of the fact that a
person is abled or disabled, the result of any effort beyond 100 per
cent is often excellence. I have seen this in the case of many persons
with disability, that includes the Asudanis and others like Kanchan,
Nafisa, Rajani Gopal Varma, Rajdeep Manvani ,Geetha and several others
(unfortunately I can't mention all the names).. 

Besides, what's wrong in aspiring for excellence even though it may be
difficult for everyone to achieve? At least that would inspire
mainstream folks to provide accessible environment. Isn't it? 

Subramani 






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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of rahul
cherian
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 11:30 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] KPCC cell for the differently abled

Hi Rajesh,

First of all, 99. % of people, whether able bodied or otherwise will
be
able to compete with your achievements. Having said that, we shouldnt
stop
trying to emulate people such as yourself. We as a community should set
our
bar higher than what able bodied people have set for us. We should go
out
more and try and surprise the able bodied world at each and every turn.
Let
the world at large know that we are just like everybody else, except for
the
fact that some of us cannot see or hear or walk. I am in total agreement
with you when you say that we should do whatever we do to the best of
our
ability. I feel that you hit the nail on the head when you said let us
widen
our sphere of activity. Let us not be afraid of what people think of us.
It
is up to us, the people on this list and who have been lucky enough to
be
educated to change the perception of society. And this can be done only
by
being in the public eye and public consciousness.

Cheers,

Rahul

2010/1/27 Asudani, Rajesh 

> Hi rahul
> Firstly there are no absolute terms to judge anybody as excellent or
> otherwise. We may speak only in terms  of generally prevalent notions
and
> yardsticks.
>
> Secondly, We may say that a few persons with disabilities may go
beyond
> even the generally accepted norms of excellence in professions or
academics
> and command the respect of society, but that should not become the
desired
> level of performance for every disabled, rather it should set in
motion a
> process and form an ambience where functioning of disabled is
recognized and
> enhanced to make them come up to generally accepted average levels of
> performance sufficient for leading a fulfilling life.
>
> For instance, in academics we three Asudani brothers have captured not
less
> than thirty gold medals in various exams competing successfully with
able
> bodied, I alone cornering 19 of such gold medals including 13 in
LL.B.,
> highest in the convocation of university.
> Now surely, this feat is regarded as climbing to commanding heights of
> academic performance. But now surely, it would be a magnificent
blunder if
> such performance is required to be duplicated by any disabled in order
to be
> recognized by society. Unfortunately, it has been done.
> A blind girl studying after me in the same school from where I topped
my
> state in secondary school certificate exam in the general merit list,
was
> thrown out for she was below average in studies.
> The room should not only be at the top but at the every intervening
step in
> ladder. climbers to the top are rare, and rarest those with
disability,
> their example may be cited as inspiring but they should not be held up
as
> the necessary minimum yardsticks for a disabled person to merit any
> recognition.
> If we ourselves glamorize the Darwinian ideal of survival only of only
the
> fittest, in this context the excellent, then I am afraid no disability
> deserves it at the most basic or ground level of evolutionary
dynamics.
> So, I still think, let us try to excel, but do at our best whatever we
are
> doing, and widen the sphere of our activities.
> Let an average disabled person have an ambience of support but not of
> threat.
> Regards
> Rajesh
>
> -Original Message-
> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:
> accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of rahul cherian
> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 10:30 AM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] KPCC cell for the differently abled
>
> Hi Rajesh,
>
> Yes I totally agree that a person with disability has to put in 100
times
> the effort as a person without disability to do anything. I also agree
that
> it is a very tall order for a person with disability to compete with,
and
> be
> better than, an able bodied person. But unless we are able to compete
with,
> and be better than, able bodied persons, especially in our
professions, we
> will not be able to command the respect of society. It may be
difficult but
> we have to try. We have to set the benchmarks high and we should be
> prepared
> for people to ju

Re: [AI] DISABILITY OVERCOME

[Subramani L]

Sorry Rajesh. I always approved your comments on many topics, but here I
guess there is no harm in saying a person is excellent if he/she is
indeed excellent.Considering the odds the person is against, the
accomplishment is great. The scientific facts that you have given is
beyond question, but if you go by that standard you can not call Albert
Einstein a great scientist since he seems to have had very different
brain formation and also is an autistic person. 

Subramani 



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[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Asudani,
Rajesh
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 10:10 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] DISABILITY OVERCOME

Okay, these may surely inspire some, but calling them disability
overcome is a bit misplaced, me thinks.

Autism sometimes manifests in such modes as to give one particular
faculty an over development.
So, saying that a person has lived a fulfilling life based on exemplary
performance in one domain is not justified.
It also sends wrong signals  regarding abilities of all autistic or
disabled persons in general.
Disability is being overcome in day to day lives by thousands of people
without making news headlines.
The case where performance is abnormal should be reported as such and
not as disability overcome.
Rajesh

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cherian
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 10:56 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] DISABILITY OVERCOME

Very Inspiring stories. My favorite is the one about Wagner who broke
the
world record for speed. That accomplishment seems unimaginable.



2010/1/26 Saravanan Ramadoss 

>
> Subject: DISABILITY OVERCOME
>
> A man born blind and diagnosed with autism at age 5 is proving to the
>
> world that his disabilities will never limit him from achieving
>
> greatness.
>
> Tony DeBlois has an amazing story. At only two years old, Tony played
>
> "Twinkle, Twinkle, Little Star" on a small organ that his mother
>
> had bought at a yard sale. It shocked his mother, who knew that her
>
> son's mental abilities were affected in some way. It was later
>
> determined that Tony possesses a rare mind and is considered to be a
>
> musical savant.
>
> Tony attended the Perkins School for the Blind in Massachusetts where
>
> he took lessons and learned to play many of the instruments in his
>
> incredible repertoire. Tony's mother noticed that he was having
>
> difficulty with motor skills when doing simple tasks. So she taught
>
> him how to brush his teeth by asking him to pretend that he was
>
> playing the violin. He learned to brush his hair by playing the drums.
>
> Eventually, he was awarded a scholarship to the Berklee School of
>
> Music and later graduated summa cum laude. While he is very humble
>
> about his education and his talents, he is referred to as a prodigious
>
> savant, essentially an autistic genius. Considering the circumstances,
>
> it would be difficult to disagree.
>
> DeBlois, now 36 years old, can play a total of 22 instruments, leads
>
> a jazz band, and has recorded 6 CDs of his work.
>
> To access the original article, please go to
>
>
>
http://www.enterprisenews.com/lifestyle/x1672004061/Musician-proves-blin
dness-autism-are-no-barriers-to-success
>
> *
>
> Kim Peek is probably a man that few have heard of before. As obscure
>
> as his name may be, he was actually the inspiration for Dustin
>
> Hoffman's autistic savant character in the award-winning1988 movie,
>
> Rain Man. Mr. Peek recently passed away at the age of 58.
>
> Peek was truly an incredible man. While he himself was not an
>
> autistic savant, his brain harbored abnormalities which made it
>
> function very similarly to someone with that mental condition. Like
>
> many in his position, he possessed a fascinating mind, capable of
>
> operating at very high levels in certain fields. In Mr. Peek's case,
>
> his memory was other worldly.
>
> When he was nine months old, doctors felt that he was so mentally
>
> retarded that he would hardly be able to walk, let alone function in
>
> any normal capacity. However, at just six years old, he had memorized
>
> the first eight volumes of a set of encyclopedias owned by his family.
>
> At fourteen, he had completed a high school curriculum with the help
>
> of a private tutor.
>
> Peek was able to read a book two pages at a time, one with each eye.
>
> With this skill, he reportedly read nearly twelve thousand volumes in
>
> his lifetime. Even more amazing was that he could remember everything
>
> he read. "Mr. Peek had memorized so many Shakespearean plays and
>
> musical compositions and was such a stickler for accuracy, his father
>
> said, that they had to stop attending performances because he would
>
> stand up and correct the actors or the musicians. "He'd stand up
>
> and say: 

Re: [AI] KPCC cell for the differently abled

[Subramani L]

If you folks are not aware, let me share something I happen to observe
during the 2009 Lok Sabha election. In a constituency in Thriuvallur
(Tamil Nadu), a group of 1500 physically challenged and their family
members (in total 5000 voters) pledged their vote to the candidate who
promises to build a resource centre for the disabled int eh town. The
resource centre, according to them, will be one-stop-shop for
employment, skill building and even help those looking for marriage
alliances. Apparently, one of the candidates agreed. 

Subramani 

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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of vinod
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 2:09 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] KPCC cell for the differently abled

I fully support your  opinion.
- Original Message - 
From: "rahul cherian" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 11:45 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] KPCC cell for the differently abled


> hello pavan,
>
> I believe that people with disability will be a vote bank if we can 
> organise
> ourselves because there are about 10 crore people with disability in
India
> alone. Till we organise ourselves, we will have to rely on the charity

> model
> where we beg for our rights and not a rights based model where we can 
> demand
> our rights.
>
> I agree with your approach of building confidence in people and i
think 
> this
> can be done not only by being service oriented and helping people but
also
> being more active in mainstream activities, whether it be in
professions,
> business or otherwise. Mainstream society has to look at people with
> disability as being equal to them and not as a community that wants
> sympathy. We should be fearless and challenge perceptions of people by
> excelling in whatever we do. I feel that mainstream society has not
had
> the opportunity to interact enough with people with disability who are
not
> stereotypes. We have to put our best foot forward to break the 
> stereotypes.
>
> I think that meeting Mr. Jayaprakash Narayan and other leaders will be

> very
> useful. They must know that there is a sizable number of persons
> with disabilities who are interested in politics and indeed in joining
> politics. I wish you all the best in your endeavor.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Rahul
>
> 2010/1/25 l pavan 
>
>> hello list members!
>> to some extent i have followed the discurtion on above mentioned
issue.
>>  as one of you said blind may not have a vote bank.
>> but it should not deprive us from getting in to politics.
>> as of now we may not establish a new party.
>> but we may slowly buildup confidence in people by actively involving
>> in various activities that benifit people.
>> in this regards i personally we may think of approaching dr jaya
>> prakash narayan.
>> who started loksatta(with new politics for new generation)this is my
>> personal feeling iam sorry if i hurt
>> --
>> l.pavan("help ever & hurt never")
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Re: [AI] KPCC cell for the differently abled

[Subramani L]

If we ever do so, we must ccall it People for the Merit and Enablement
Party (PMEP). 

Subramani 



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[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of rahul
cherian
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 2:32 PM
To: vinod; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] KPCC cell for the differently abled

I agree with Vinod

2010/1/27 vinod 

> it is the need of the hour that we should think seriously about the
> empowerment of the disabled in th politicale field. If parties give us
our
> due it isalright. Otherwise we must unite and start our own party. How
long
> we will remain silent?
>
> - Original Message - From: "l pavan" 
> To: "accessindia" 
> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 10:59 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [AI] KPCC cell for the differently abled
>
>
>  hello list members!
>> to some extent i have followed the discurtion on above mentioned
issue.
>>  as one of you said blind may not have a vote bank.
>> but it should not deprive us from getting in to politics.
>> as of now we may not establish a new party.
>> but we may slowly buildup confidence in people by actively involving
>> in various activities that benifit people.
>> in this regards i personally we may think of approaching dr jaya
>> prakash narayan.
>> who started loksatta(with new politics for new generation)this is my
>> personal feeling iam sorry if i hurt
>> --
>> l.pavan("help ever & hurt never")
>>
>>
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[AI] FW: status of NGOs

[Asudani, Rajesh]

Regards

"Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create Him."

--Arthur C. Clarke

(Rajesh Asudani)

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From: Asudani, Rajesh
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 2:25 PM
To: 'SC Vashishth'
Subject: RE: [AI] status of NGOs

Dear Vashishth Jee
It is precisely this I am asking whether such additional registration under PWD 
OR MH OR NT acts relating to disability is practically being done or not and 
whether systems are put in place for such additional registration including 
laying down designated authorities and terms and conditions of such 
registration.
The problem with some individuals in availing SCL is that the organization 
conducting a seminar is presumed not to be registered under PWD act, though it 
has been duly registered in other acts relating to societies. Authorities are 
demanding proof of registration under PWD act, so the query about registration 
number revealing any such additional information or separate numbers or 
certificates being granted to demonstrate that such additional registration has 
been obtained.
And, vashishth jee, please enquire about scribe policy of DJSE authorities at 
the earliest.


Regards


From: SC Vashishth [mailto:subhashvashis...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 12:33 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in; Rajesh Asudani
Subject: Re: [AI] status of NGOs

Dear Rajesh,
As far as my knowledge goes, though the circular was published with good intent 
but there was no set criteria on this recognition. So in absence of any such 
criteria, all seminars conducted at State/National level (as opposed to local 
level) by organisations registered under the PWD Act/National Trust Act/Mental 
Health Act  besides being registered under respective 
societies/trust/cooperatives/companies Act, can be considered fit for seeking 
this extra ordinary casual leave.

If the problems persist perhaps a clarification is needed from the MSJE/DOPT
regards
2010/1/28 Asudani, Rajesh 
mailto:rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in>>
Dear AccessIndians connected with NGOs
It seems queries in my messages are lost upon my learned AI fraternity in 
perhaps the nianderings of my language.
I has asked about any separate registration vide Persons with disabilities act, 
in connection with answering queries lelating to SCL for disability seminars 
etc.
So, please let me know whether such separate registration of institutions 
related to persons with disabilities has been initiated in addition   to 
registration under societies acts.
Regards



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Re: [AI] Will the iPad Kill the Kindle?

[Subramani L]

Hai: 

Pl give me the source. Is this found in any of the Indian media? 

Subramani 

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[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Dinesh
Kaushal
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Subject: [AI] Will the iPad Kill the Kindle?

Following news is really exciting. Apple's ibook will be epub format.

 

 

Wednesday, January 27, 2010

Will the iPad Kill the Kindle?

The price and specs suggest that Apple's device will offer stiff
competition. 

By Erica Naone

It's not yet clear whether the iPad will live up to the breathless
excitement that surrounded its launch. But, from the specs alone, it
clearly
spells trouble for dedicated e-readers, particularly Amazon's larger
version
of the Kindle.

The Kindle DX is the same size as the iPad. It has a black and white
E-Ink
screen, 4 gigabytes of internal storage, 3G access and costs $489.
Meanwhile, the cheapest version of the iPad has a full-color touch
screen, a
powerful processor and graphics chip, 16 gigabytes of flash storage,
Wi-Fi
and sells for $499.

The cheaper iPad might not have 3G or the same battery life as the
Kindle DX
(up to 4 days), but on every other count it wins. It has both a gorgeous
screen and vastly more functionality. And, while Amazon has established
an
excellent, easy way to buy books, iTunes, which already has some 125
million
customers, will give it a run for its money.

During today's launch, Apple played down its move into the e-reader
market--the iBooks demo was buried in-between game demonstrations and a
long
explanation of the company's productivity software. But the iPad price
point
means that those considering a dedicated e-reader will be sorely tempted
by
an iPad. In addition, because an iTunes account can be used to purchase
e-books, Apple stands to capture a large audience of users readers who
want
to read a few e-books but would never buy a dedicated device.

The iBooks app also has access to the full catalogs of 5 major
publishers:
Penguin, HarperCollins, Simon & Schuster, Macmillan, and Hachette Book
Group. It also uses the standard ePub format, meaning that books
purchased
on this device will be compatible with other readers.

 

 

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philosopher. The society which scorns excellence in plumbing because
plumbing is a humble activity and tolerates shoddiness in philosophy
because
it is an exalted activity will have neither good plumbing nor good
philosophy. Neither its pipes nor its theories will hold water."

 

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[AI] JAWS 10 and hindi

[Asudani, Rajesh]

Friends
I have jaws 10 installed on PC without JAWS 9.
Now, how can I make it read Hindi?
Rajesh


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Re: [AI] Tiny implant to restore vision shows promise

[Subramani L]

Nothing wrong with this news or news like these, but would like to take
the word "Promises" seriously. This is not yet a cure. 

Subramani 



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Hindu sci tech Tiny implant to restore vision shows promise

The diseases macular degeneration and retinitis pigmentosa lay waste to
photoreceptors, the cells in the retina that turn light into electrical
signals carried to the brain. The damage leaves millions of people
worldwide with sight loss.

The nerves behind the light-switching cells, however, remain intact,
meaning that with new photoreceptors, a patient could see again.

Early attempts to regenerate sight by injecting seed or progenitor cells
that grow into photoreceptors into the eye of a mouse model failed.

Now, researchers trying to restore vision damaged by disease have found
promise in a tiny implant that sows seeds of new cells in the eye,
according to a Case Western Reserve University press release.

As with any part of the central nervous system, scar tissue is a barrier
to regeneration.

Published work has shown that people who suffer sight loss can regain
visual acuity with the addition of fewer photoreceptor cells than the
number that naturally populate a healthy eye.

The researchers made the micro-implant's scaffolding. They built a mesh
using electrical charges to draw biodegradable polymers out of a needle
and into a fine stream, producing interwoven fibres ranging from 1/20th
to 1/1000th the width of a hair.

Embedded in the fibres are pockets containing enzymes which slowly
migrate out as the polymer degrades, eating away local scar tissue and
exposing fertile ground for the progenitor cells carried on the
implant's surface.

Without the enzymes, the implant alone increased the number of
progenitor cells reaching the degraded site 16-fold and survival 9- fold
over injection in a mouse model.

With the enzymes, the number of progenitor cells that implanted and
survived increased another 15- to 20-fold. - Our Bureau



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