[AI] (no subject)

2010-09-09 Thread Kotian, H P
Dear Rajesh

Well, I beg to differ, just because a paper is written in Braille, it is 
expected the paper would be evaluated by VI or it is expected the evaluator is 
expected to learn Braille. Braille is certainly an option and the importance of 
Braille should not be undermined.

How to deal with Braille paper is an operational issue to be dealt with the 
authority. Certainly the practical way out is to get it transcribed by a person 
knowing Braille. Sighted or blind.

I would go further to state we should write in Braille to authorities to ensure 
the importance of Braille as a medium.

I am unsure if a Braille document can be considered as a legal document 
although I reckon there should be no bar in it.It should be interesting to know 
the legal status of Braille.

Audio Recording is good, However, it would make the candidate and the scribe 
very conscious. Let us  not make a blind person treated like a criminal.If the 
scribe does not read well it will still not make the things better as no extra 
marks would be given for the wrong answer. If for any reason the authorities 
could not arrange for recording or if the recording did not come through will, 
some hypper intelligent babu would penalise a blind person for it. You never 
know.


Harish Kotian.

From: Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Examinations

Well, braillers, what about evaluation?
Do you want papers of VI to be valued by VI only, or would you insist valuers 
to learn Braille?


-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Amit Bhatt
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 10:12 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Examinations

Well I too would not deny the fact that there is no better option than writing 
the exams on our own using the Assistive Technology or Computer. But if we want 
to use it just because some of the candidates are taking the help from their 
Writers, then use of Computer also seems to be futile and helpless to stop the 
cheating in the examination since Computer will be very useful to correct the 
spelling mistakes specially for those who are not that good in English 
spellings while writing a subjective Paper.
I think currently the main theme of our on going discussion is Criteria and 
eligibility of Scribe, not about the Candidate whether he or she is honestly 
answering the papers or not. so better if we do not deviate from the original 
topic and do not discuss about cheating and copying in the exam. Otherwise this 
will be a endless debate and our motive of preparing the correct guidelines on 
Scribe eligibility will not be fulfilled, however, the problem of cheating will 
be remained there unless the Invigilator is very active. I would again say that 
how can you stop the sighted applicants who copy in the exam? So what my 
purpose is to say that doing swindle during the examinations is not our problem 
but the problem lies on the part of Invigilator and related authority who 
conduct the examination.
As far as taking the Exams through Braille is concerned, the idea is good but 
then I would again say the time needs to be extended for writing the exams 
since practically writing Braille takes more energy as compare to use the pen 
and Braille cannot be faster than the print in writing in case of use of simple 
Braille-Slate. Yes, brailor can indeed be a very useful tool to overcome with 
the problem of speed but, now question is raised about how to arrange the 
Brailor, who would afford for those who cannot buy it and there are many such 
problems involved in the use of Brail script during the examination. So better 
if we continue with the use of Scribe.

Regards,

Amit Bhatt


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[AI] Now, hone your skills via web

2010-09-09 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
The Hindu,  September 9, 2010

Now, hone your skills via web
Staff Reporter
CHENNAI: An online e-learning portal - www.careerstrokes.com - that aims to 
motivate students and young professionals and provide them with career 
enhancement skills was launched on Monday.
A business venture of the former Indian cricket captain, Kris Srikkanth, the 
website has 12 modules that contain pre-loaded lectures on a variety of topics 
that include leadership skills, stress management, communication skills, 
decision-making and negotiation. We have made the website rich in terms of 
graphics and visual content and all live lectures will be webcast from the 
studios, he said. There will be five live classes a month, including at least 
one by Mr. Srikkanth.
He said the teaching approach would be based on translating the concept of 
cricket for an easy understanding of complex management problems. In a country 
like India where cricket is nothing less than a religion, citing real time 
analogies from the world of cricket to explain the issues of life would go a 
long way, he said. What we learn in classes and what we do in real life is 
different, said Mr. Srikkanth.
Online learning with webinars, online discussions with experts, interviews with 
successful managers, theme-based learning and customised audio-visual 
interactions will be part of the programme, Mr. Srikkanth said. A 24-hour help 
line to assist people with their problems, archives to webcast the missed 
sessions and a help desk have also been facilitated in the site for the 
registered members, he added.
Mr. Srikkanth said that tie-ups with job portals and universities to cater to 
the problems faced by students and professionals are being looked at. An 
online cricket coaching site and an online forum to teach mathematics and 
science will be launched soon.


Regards
The world is not to be narrowed till it will go into the understanding . . . 
but the understanding is to be expanded till it can take in the world.
- Francis Bacon

(Rajesh Asudani)

Assistant General Manager,
Reserve Bank of India
Nagpur
09420397185
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[AI] computer training centers

2010-09-09 Thread Jeevaraj
hello dear list, i hope all are doing good
i want addresses, of computer training centers on Chennai
if you have any information on that, please send to me.
thanks in advance

Email: jeeva.kingje...@gmail.com

with best regards
Jeeva

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Re: [AI] Examinations

2010-09-09 Thread akhilesh
There has to be a sepret exam center for the  visually challenged
candidates in state level. The experienced persons should be appointed
to look after the examinees and not only this, any knowledgeable and
suitable visually challenged person should also be invited to moniter
the exams.
this type of solution can work well as far net exam conducted by UGC,
and PCS and PSC exams conducted by the concern authorities by
respective states.
As far as I know, UPSC is providing such facility I.E. sepret and
dedicated exam center for the visually challenged in delhi region.

Regards,
Akhilesh.


On 9/9/10, Pamnani kanchanpamn...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes I agree with you on this issue but since we had a judgement in our
 favour I want to know if it has ever been used and the result.
 K
 Kanchan Pamnani
 Advocate  Solicitor
 9, Suleman Chambers,
 Battery Street, Colaba,
 Mumbai - 400 039.



 - Original Message -
 From: Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 10:07 AM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Examinations


I don't subscribe to idea of taking public exams in Braille.
 It would mark out papers of VI separately, beside requiring valuers to
 learn Braille.
 Or they would have to be valued separately by Braille knowing persons,
 which is not fair.
 Simple solution of taking scribe by candidate without any undue
 restrictions is fair enough.


 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kanchan
 Pamnani
 Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 5:35 AM
 To: Access India
 Subject: [AI] Examinations

 Thanks friends I have been reading all the mails and should start
 compiling them next weekend so if there are more issues lets discuss them
 immediately.

 1. There will be no compromise on Candidate's right to choose his scribe
 and
 2. At this stage we cannot insist that all exams be taken on line-sorry
 techies you need to be practical about this. We are talking about the
 country and all exams.

 Lets look at other issues and dont waste time on the above 2. Maybe we can

 think of different kinds of exams and their pecularities.

 Some years ago National Federation of the Blind had won a judgement which
 stated that the Blind can give the U P S  E in braille. I needed to know
 if anyone has really done it in braille or has anyone even heard of a
 person who did it in braille. I need to know the experience.

 Thanks
 Kanchan
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Re: [AI] (no subject)

2010-09-09 Thread Srinivasu Chakravarthula
I forgot the name, but I think there is a gadget which scans converts
Braille to print. If that is true, for large scale exams, Govt should
buy such a device and send all braille papers to that centralized
location of the state for eveluation. It would be reasonable to ask
Govt to procure the same at every eveluation centre.

On 9/9/10, Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in wrote:
 Dear Rajesh

 Well, I beg to differ, just because a paper is written in Braille, it is
 expected the paper would be evaluated by VI or it is expected the evaluator
 is expected to learn Braille. Braille is certainly an option and the
 importance of Braille should not be undermined.

 How to deal with Braille paper is an operational issue to be dealt with the
 authority. Certainly the practical way out is to get it transcribed by a
 person knowing Braille. Sighted or blind.

 I would go further to state we should write in Braille to authorities to
 ensure the importance of Braille as a medium.

 I am unsure if a Braille document can be considered as a legal document
 although I reckon there should be no bar in it.It should be interesting to
 know the legal status of Braille.

 Audio Recording is good, However, it would make the candidate and the scribe
 very conscious. Let us  not make a blind person treated like a criminal.If
 the scribe does not read well it will still not make the things better as no
 extra marks would be given for the wrong answer. If for any reason the
 authorities could not arrange for recording or if the recording did not come
 through will, some hypper intelligent babu would penalise a blind person for
 it. You never know.


 Harish Kotian.

 From: Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Examinations

 Well, braillers, what about evaluation?
 Do you want papers of VI to be valued by VI only, or would you insist
 valuers to learn Braille?


 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Amit Bhatt
 Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 10:12 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Examinations

 Well I too would not deny the fact that there is no better option than
 writing the exams on our own using the Assistive Technology or Computer. But
 if we want to use it just because some of the candidates are taking the help
 from their Writers, then use of Computer also seems to be futile and
 helpless to stop the cheating in the examination since Computer will be very
 useful to correct the spelling mistakes specially for those who are not that
 good in English spellings while writing a subjective Paper.
 I think currently the main theme of our on going discussion is Criteria and
 eligibility of Scribe, not about the Candidate whether he or she is
 honestly answering the papers or not. so better if we do not deviate from
 the original topic and do not discuss about cheating and copying in the
 exam. Otherwise this will be a endless debate and our motive of preparing
 the correct guidelines on Scribe eligibility will not be fulfilled, however,
 the problem of cheating will be remained there unless the Invigilator is
 very active. I would again say that how can you stop the sighted applicants
 who copy in the exam? So what my purpose is to say that doing swindle during
 the examinations is not our problem but the problem lies on the part of
 Invigilator and related authority who conduct the examination.
 As far as taking the Exams through Braille is concerned, the idea is good
 but then I would again say the time needs to be extended for writing the
 exams since practically writing Braille takes more energy as compare to use
 the pen and Braille cannot be faster than the print in writing in case of
 use of simple Braille-Slate. Yes, brailor can indeed be a very useful tool
 to overcome with the problem of speed but, now question is raised about how
 to arrange the Brailor, who would afford for those who cannot buy it and
 there are many such problems involved in the use of Brail script during the
 examination. So better if we continue with the use of Scribe.

 Regards,

 Amit Bhatt

 
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Re: [AI] (no subject)

2010-09-09 Thread KARAN GUPTA
I second Harish, I assume that very gadget is not cent percent accurate.

Kindest Regards
- Karan Gupta

~ Sent from my mobile device


-Original Message-
From: Srinivasu Chakravarthula
Sent:  09.09.2010, 1:33  PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] (no subject)


I forgot the name, but I think there is a gadget which scans converts
Braille to print. If that is true, for large scale exams, Govt should
buy such a device and send all braille papers to that centralized
location of the state for eveluation. It would be reasonable to ask
Govt to procure the same at every eveluation centre.

On 9/9/10, Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in wrote:
 Dear Rajesh

 Well, I beg to differ, just because a paper is written in Braille, it is
 expected the paper would be evaluated by VI or it is expected the evaluator
 is expected to learn Braille. Braille is certainly an option and the
 importance of Braille should not be undermined.

 How to deal with Braille paper is an operational issue to be dealt with the
 authority. Certainly the practical way out is to get it transcribed by a
 person knowing Braille. Sighted or blind.

 I would go further to state we should write in Braille to authorities to
 ensure the importance of Braille as a medium.

 I am unsure if a Braille document can be considered as a legal document
 although I reckon there should be no bar in it.It should be interesting to
 know the legal status of Braille.

 Audio Recording is good, However, it would make the candidate and the scribe
 very conscious. Let us  not make a blind person treated like a criminal.If
 the scribe does not read well it will still not make the things better as no
 extra marks would be given for the wrong answer. If for any reason the
 authorities could not arrange for recording or if the recording did not come
 through will, some hypper intelligent babu would penalise a blind person for
 it. You never know.


 Harish Kotian.

 From: Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Examinations

 Well, braillers, what about evaluation?
 Do you want papers of VI to be valued by VI only, or would you insist
 valuers to learn Braille?


 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Amit Bhatt
 Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 10:12 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Examinations

 Well I too would not deny the fact that there is no better option than
 writing the exams on our own using the Assistive Technology or Computer. But
 if we want to use it just because some of the candidates are taking the help
 from their Writers, then use of Computer also seems to be futile and
 helpless to stop the cheating in the examination since Computer will be very
 useful to correct the spelling mistakes specially for those who are not that
 good in English spellings while writing a subjective Paper.
 I think currently the main theme of our on going discussion is Criteria and
 eligibility of Scribe, not about the Candidate whether he or she is
 honestly answering the papers or not. so better if we do not deviate from
 the original topic and do not discuss about cheating and copying in the
 exam. Otherwise this will be a endless debate and our motive of preparing
 the correct guidelines on Scribe eligibility will not be fulfilled, however,
 the problem of cheating will be remained there unless the Invigilator is
 very active. I would again say that how can you stop the sighted applicants
 who copy in the exam? So what my purpose is to say that doing swindle during
 the examinations is not our problem but the problem lies on the part of
 Invigilator and related authority who conduct the examination.
 As far as taking the Exams through Braille is concerned, the idea is good
 but then I would again say the time needs to be extended for writing the
 exams since practically writing Braille takes more energy as compare to use
 the pen and Braille cannot be faster than the print in writing in case of
 use of simple Braille-Slate. Yes, brailor can indeed be a very useful tool
 to overcome with the problem of speed but, now question is raised about how
 to arrange the Brailor, who would afford for those who cannot buy it and
 there are many such problems involved in the use of Brail script during the
 examination. So better if we continue with the use of Scribe.

 Regards,

 Amit Bhatt

 
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[AI] Sharing steps to send files using drop box...

2010-09-09 Thread Bhavesh Dhanak
Hi friends,
Hope you all are rocking!
As I wrote the steps to send files using drop box, for some of my friends, so 
sharing with you, thinking it would be of help to someone.  
So those of you who knows, sorry for this mail. 
In dropbox, we have 2 main options to share files:
1.
Sending someone a file using  public folder. 
2.
Sharing files with someone using  share folder option .
Now, 1st let's throw a light on Sending someone a file using public folder 
option:
Note:
Please remember, that using this option, you can send only 1 single file.
For sending multiple files, you have to send it as a zipped file.  
Steps:
If you go to my documents, you will find an icon  my drop box .
Open it and you will find public folder.
Open this public folder and paste your desired file in this folder.
 Now it will start uploading
To check it's status of uploading, press insert+f11 to open the system tray 
icon and check with down arrow keys  dropbox, or just press letter D,
and mister jaws would say something like,  dropbox 1 file uploading...  
Once it is  uploaded, it would say,  dropbox all files up to date .
Once it's done, go to my dropbox/public folder, and keep the cursor on your
file which you are uploading.
Here, press the application key, and open dropbox sub menu, and then
finally, hit enter on  copy public link  option.
Now go to your desired place, or the Email which you are sending and just
paste the link there, and you are ready to go!
Now about  share folder   option:
1st trying to throw a spot light on this option:
 share folder option gives us freedom to share a folder between computers. 
So any file kept in this folder, will be available in both the computers.
Aha! remembering the awsome movie,  3 ediots , toe demo kar kay bataana 
chaahta hoo.
Imagine, we are sharing a folder named,  Krishna .
Now, go to your my dropbox, which will be in my documents by default, and 
create a folder, and name it as Krishna.
Now copy your desired file which you want me to send, and paste it into 
Krishna folder.
It can be any file, text or an audio such as a Krishna bhajan etc...
now, once it finishes uploading, go to my dropbox, keep cursor on that 
Krishna folder, press application key on that folder,and with down/up arrow 
keys, keep cursor on dropbox sub menu and press right arrow to open it, or 
simply press D to reach there, and open it with right arrow.
Now with up arrow key, hit enter on  share this folder... option .
Now the dropbox web page will be opened...
Once it's been  loaded, look for  Enter recipient email addresses here .
Under this you will find an edit box saying, Enter recipient email 
addresses here edit. 
So enter the person's Email address to whom you want to share this folder with, 
in this edit box, so according to our example, bhavesh.dha...@gmail.com

After entering Email address, there  will be a heading stating sending a 
personal message to that person.
So if you wish to write a note, you can write in that below given edit box.
Now, you are ready to fly this krishna folder across 7 seas, all over to 
Dubai, so just hit enter in the below button saying,share folder button 
 .
So now, I will get an Email, as well as you will get a confirmation mail.
So I have to just click the link given in that mail, so the dropbox web page 
will be opened, and I have to accept it from the web page.
 once i do this, automatically, it will start downloading in my laptop, and 
once downloading is finished, I will see  Krishna  folder in my dropbox, 
and inside it, the melodious  bhajan in your melodious  voice! (smiles)
Aha! seems you are tired reading all this right?
Okay not boring you more, and shutting down!
Sorry if any errors.
 Bye, God Bless, keep laughing!
 If you don't get time to pray, try to make people laugh! 

For gossips, feel free to catch me on:
Skype: bhavesh.dhanak
Yahoo Messenger: bhavesh.dha...@yahoo.co.in
Windows Live: bhavesh.dha...@hotmail.com
To drop an Email: bhavesh.dha...@gmail.com

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Re: [AI] Examinations

2010-09-09 Thread Pamnani
I thought that having a center for the disabled is quite a bad idea. We need 
a special room but within the same center as others. I know that U P S E is 
doing this but I think it is pure tokenism. I rather have a better writer 
than a special center.

Kanchan Pamnani
Advocate  Solicitor
9, Suleman Chambers,
Battery Street, Colaba,
Mumbai - 400 039.



- Original Message - 
From: akhilesh akhil.akhi...@gmail.com

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 1:07 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Examinations



There has to be a sepret exam center for the  visually challenged
candidates in state level. The experienced persons should be appointed
to look after the examinees and not only this, any knowledgeable and
suitable visually challenged person should also be invited to moniter
the exams.
this type of solution can work well as far net exam conducted by UGC,
and PCS and PSC exams conducted by the concern authorities by
respective states.
As far as I know, UPSC is providing such facility I.E. sepret and
dedicated exam center for the visually challenged in delhi region.

Regards,
Akhilesh.


On 9/9/10, Pamnani kanchanpamn...@gmail.com wrote:

Yes I agree with you on this issue but since we had a judgement in our
favour I want to know if it has ever been used and the result.
K
Kanchan Pamnani
Advocate  Solicitor
9, Suleman Chambers,
Battery Street, Colaba,
Mumbai - 400 039.



- Original Message -
From: Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 10:07 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Examinations



I don't subscribe to idea of taking public exams in Braille.
It would mark out papers of VI separately, beside requiring valuers to
learn Braille.
Or they would have to be valued separately by Braille knowing persons,
which is not fair.
Simple solution of taking scribe by candidate without any undue
restrictions is fair enough.


-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kanchan
Pamnani
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 5:35 AM
To: Access India
Subject: [AI] Examinations

Thanks friends I have been reading all the mails and should start
compiling them next weekend so if there are more issues lets discuss 
them

immediately.

1. There will be no compromise on Candidate's right to choose his scribe
and
2. At this stage we cannot insist that all exams be taken on line-sorry
techies you need to be practical about this. We are talking about the
country and all exams.

Lets look at other issues and dont waste time on the above 2. Maybe we 
can


think of different kinds of exams and their pecularities.

Some years ago National Federation of the Blind had won a judgement 
which

stated that the Blind can give the U P S  E in braille. I needed to know
if anyone has really done it in braille or has anyone even heard of a
person who did it in braille. I need to know the experience.

Thanks
Kanchan
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[AI] My Interoduction: Nice to be a Member of ACCESS INDIA.

2010-09-09 Thread gunjan kumari
Hi friends! I am Gunjan Kumari. I am an MA in English. I have
completed my MA in this year, i.e. in 2010. write now I am pursuing an
IT cource from AICB, Delhi.

I am really happy to become one of the members of Access India.I would
like to become a proffessor of English. You must be surprised to know
that after doing M.A. why I am going for area like I.T. My problem is
that for higher studies, I wanted the knowledge of computers. But,
unfortunately, the place from where I belong, does not provide any
course of computers. In this condition, I had no other option but to
join this course.

If you can give me any suggestion, I will be really grateful to you.

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Re: [AI] My Interoduction: Nice to be a Member of ACCESS INDIA.

2010-09-09 Thread akhilesh
now prepare for the net exam  as well. if you have got the 50% marks in your MA.


On 9/9/10, gunjan kumari gunjan.a...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi friends! I am Gunjan Kumari. I am an MA in English. I have
 completed my MA in this year, i.e. in 2010. write now I am pursuing an
 IT cource from AICB, Delhi.

 I am really happy to become one of the members of Access India.I would
 like to become a proffessor of English. You must be surprised to know
 that after doing M.A. why I am going for area like I.T. My problem is
 that for higher studies, I wanted the knowledge of computers. But,
 unfortunately, the place from where I belong, does not provide any
 course of computers. In this condition, I had no other option but to
 join this course.

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Re: [AI] My Interoduction: Nice to be a Member of ACCESS INDIA.

2010-09-09 Thread Akhilesh Malani
Hello Gunjan,

Welcome to our group.
We will assist you in getting info regarding stepping into IT.

Regards

Akhil

On 9/9/10, akhilesh akhil.akhi...@gmail.com wrote:
 now prepare for the net exam  as well. if you have got the 50% marks in your
 MA.


 On 9/9/10, gunjan kumari gunjan.a...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi friends! I am Gunjan Kumari. I am an MA in English. I have
 completed my MA in this year, i.e. in 2010. write now I am pursuing an
 IT cource from AICB, Delhi.

 I am really happy to become one of the members of Access India.I would
 like to become a proffessor of English. You must be surprised to know
 that after doing M.A. why I am going for area like I.T. My problem is
 that for higher studies, I wanted the knowledge of computers. But,
 unfortunately, the place from where I belong, does not provide any
 course of computers. In this condition, I had no other option but to
 join this course.

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Re: [AI] Examinations

2010-09-09 Thread akhilesh
Ok mam.
fine. but, if the visually challenged will be allocated different
different center it'd be a very probalmatic to implement the reforms
that we're trying to bring.
So the one amendment can be taken into account in this regard. the
center has to be with other candidates but all the visually challenged
candidates shal be allotted the same center. it would definetly ensure
that all the guidelines would be known to the examination authority,
and they'll raise the less objection about the scribe.
they'll also aware about the problems of visually challenged
candidates very well, and it will ensure the conduct of free and fair
exams.
Thanks,
Akhilesh.


On 9/9/10, Pamnani kanchanpamn...@gmail.com wrote:
 I thought that having a center for the disabled is quite a bad idea. We need
 a special room but within the same center as others. I know that U P S E is
 doing this but I think it is pure tokenism. I rather have a better writer
 than a special center.
 Kanchan Pamnani
 Advocate  Solicitor
 9, Suleman Chambers,
 Battery Street, Colaba,
 Mumbai - 400 039.



 - Original Message -
 From: akhilesh akhil.akhi...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 1:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Examinations


 There has to be a sepret exam center for the  visually challenged
 candidates in state level. The experienced persons should be appointed
 to look after the examinees and not only this, any knowledgeable and
 suitable visually challenged person should also be invited to moniter
 the exams.
 this type of solution can work well as far net exam conducted by UGC,
 and PCS and PSC exams conducted by the concern authorities by
 respective states.
 As far as I know, UPSC is providing such facility I.E. sepret and
 dedicated exam center for the visually challenged in delhi region.

 Regards,
 Akhilesh.


 On 9/9/10, Pamnani kanchanpamn...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes I agree with you on this issue but since we had a judgement in our
 favour I want to know if it has ever been used and the result.
 K
 Kanchan Pamnani
 Advocate  Solicitor
 9, Suleman Chambers,
 Battery Street, Colaba,
 Mumbai - 400 039.



 - Original Message -
 From: Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 10:07 AM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Examinations


I don't subscribe to idea of taking public exams in Braille.
 It would mark out papers of VI separately, beside requiring valuers to
 learn Braille.
 Or they would have to be valued separately by Braille knowing persons,
 which is not fair.
 Simple solution of taking scribe by candidate without any undue
 restrictions is fair enough.


 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kanchan
 Pamnani
 Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 5:35 AM
 To: Access India
 Subject: [AI] Examinations

 Thanks friends I have been reading all the mails and should start
 compiling them next weekend so if there are more issues lets discuss
 them
 immediately.

 1. There will be no compromise on Candidate's right to choose his scribe
 and
 2. At this stage we cannot insist that all exams be taken on line-sorry
 techies you need to be practical about this. We are talking about the
 country and all exams.

 Lets look at other issues and dont waste time on the above 2. Maybe we
 can

 think of different kinds of exams and their pecularities.

 Some years ago National Federation of the Blind had won a judgement
 which
 stated that the Blind can give the U P S  E in braille. I needed to know
 if anyone has really done it in braille or has anyone even heard of a
 person who did it in braille. I need to know the experience.

 Thanks
 Kanchan
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[AI] My Interoduction: Nice to Become One of the Members of Access India.

2010-09-09 Thread gunjan kumari
Hi friends! I am Gunjan Kumari. I am an M.A. from Patna University.
Write now I am pursuing  a course in Computer application from AICB,
Delhi.I love literature and Music. Apart from my M.A. I have also
completed seventh year in vocal music, that is equivalant to M.A.
previous in music.
 Friends, I am really happy to become one of the members of Access India.

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[AI] Problem with MS Word 2003...

2010-09-09 Thread Bhavesh Dhanak
Hello friends,
eed Moobarak to all!
I have recently installed Jaws 10.
Since I have installed it, I am facing some problem with MS Word 2003:
1.
As I use it for my accounts, to copy entries from Excel to word, as soon as I 
paste 2 to 3 sentences, the page gets over.
2.
And Jaws keeps on announcing sections, and automatically, following text is 
being written in that document:
Section4
Now, cant understand, wither it's Jaws problem or MS Word problem.
Awaiting your valuable guidance and help.
  
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Re: [AI] introduction

2010-09-09 Thread B. P. Mohith
Welcome to the group.
Sure you can improve your skills from this group too.


On 9/8/10, deepali kuamri deepali.a...@gmail.com wrote:
 hi everyone! i'm deepali. i completed my graduation in political
 science from mumbai university this year. now i'm pursuing a
 job-oriented computer diploma from delhi. in this course, our soft
 skills and hard skills are improved. so, we can get a proper job and
 can deal with any situation related to our office, people from
 different background.
 all the best!

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Re: [AI] examination

2010-09-09 Thread Kulkarni, Apoorv
Hi friends,
I'm strongly opposed to the concept of a common center. In my opinion, we 
should make sure that the VI candidate is allotted the center nearest to his 
house. Even in a city like Mumbai, there will not be more than say 50 VI 
candidates for a major examination like graduation. Thus 1 or maximum 2 centers 
would be designated as VI centers. One would be significantly at a disadvantage 
if the common center is far away from his/her house thereby requiring long 
commute. In the exam days, surely none of us would want to spend say 4 to 6 
hours in travelling. So lets ensure that the center is nearest to the place of 
residence of a VI. To solve the problem of improper application of rules and 
regulations, I had suggested to have a designated person appointed by the 
examination authorities with his all contact data made available on the website 
and in the permission letter. Such person should have the authority to direct 
the center in charges to take necessary action to ensure that the examination 
is conducted properly and necessary relief is provided to the VI where 
necessary.

Best Regards,
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[AI] Your questions answered

2010-09-09 Thread Sanjay
YOUR QUESTIONS ANSWERED 

Expert computing advice 

Chris Byers tackles readers' hardware and software conundrums 

UPGRADE ADVICE NEEDED 

Q I upgraded my PC with a new CPU and hard drive, copying across the contents of

the old drive with the help of a disk-copying utility. When I boot up I now see

a screen asking which operating system (OS) I'd like to use, but I have only one

installed. Richard Perez

The imaging process has unearthed an older copy of Windows that's been upgraded

or overwritten. A hidden boot.ini file tells the computer which version of

Windows to use if it finds more than one. Because it doesn't know which OS you

want to use, it needs to ask you each time.

Right-click Computer, Properties, Advanced, Startup and Recovery. Select your

OS from the drop-down menu under 'Default operating system'. Change the option

next to 'Time to display list of operating systems' to 5 seconds. Reboot and

ensure the PC starts up correctly.

Revisit the Startup and Recovery panel and untick the box next to 'Time to

display list of operating systems'. Your PC should now boot into your chosen

version of Windows without prompting.

For more information on the boot.ini file, visit tinyurl.com/yzzfxg. 

FULL-DISK WARNING 

Q I reorganised some files on my Vista Home Basic PC and am now receiving a

full-disk warning.

The drive has two 67GB partitions. I moved 40GB of files to D, leaving 31GB on

C. I unsuccessfully attempted to delete the Winsxs file, which hogs 12GB. I've

also removed 3GB of programs. But every time I reboot, the capacity used on C

is still 31GB. Doug Pyburn

A basic installation of Vista will gobble up 15GB of drive space before you've

even installed any software or downloaded any patches, service packs or Windows

Update files. It's also possible that your pagefile (virtual memory) is set too

large, or you have a faulty program generating masses of temporary files or a

disk error. Windows hibernation files can also grow very large, so make sure

you're turning off the PC using the Shut Down option rather than Sleep.

Don't delete any content from the Winsxs folder. This holds important files

that are required for the correct operation of Windows and your installed

software.

Let's do some housekeeping and clear up what we can. Download and run CCleaner

( ccleaner.com). You'll need to close your web browser first.

Next, move your pagefile to another partition. The pagefile can grow and grow

if it isn't kept under control. Right-click Computer, Properties, Advanced

System Settings, Performance, Advanced, Virtual Memory, Change. Highlight your

second drive partition and tick the 'System Managed Size' option. Next,

highlight your C partition and select 'No paging file', Set, Ok. Finally,

reboot the machine.

Now let's shrink or delete the hibernation file. Go to Control Panel, Folder

Options, View and select 'See hidden files, folders and drives'. Clear the

option to 'Hide protected hidden operating system files', then click Apply.

Next, double-click the C partition in Computer and jot down the size of the

hiberfil.sys and pagefile.sys files (you may need to hover the cursor over it or

right-click it and choose Properties).

To delete the Hibernation option, go to Start, All Programs, Accessories.

Right-click Command Prompt and select 'Run as administrator'. When the command

prompt box opens, type powercfg -h and press Enter. You may have to manually

delete the hiberfil.sys file, however.

To shrink the hibernation file, open the command prompt and type powercfg -h -X

(where X is the percentage of the original size - for example, powercfg -h -75

reduces the file to 75 percent of the original) and press Enter. The smallest

you can go is 50 percent.

Windows Update files are another disk hog, but you'll need to stop the Automatic

Updates service before you can delete them. Right-click Computer and choose

Manage, Services and Applications, Services. Right-click Windows Update and

select Stop.

Navigate to C:\Windows and delete the SoftwareDistribution folder. It will be

recreated (but empty) the next time you reboot the PC. Remember to restart

Automatic Updates afterwards.

You should also check your drive for errors, since the 'free space' information

reported may be incorrect. Right-click the C partition in Computer and choose

Properties, Tools, Error Checking. Tick the 'Automatically fix file system

errors' option, press Start and reboot when prompted.

To complete the cleanup process, defragment your drive. Click Start, Search,

type disk and select Disk Defragmenter. Choose the C drive, then 'Defragment

disk'.

SOUND OF SILENCE 

Q Following a clean reinstallation of Windows, the volume control built into my

laptop no longer works. I reinstalled the Launcher, but it hasn't fixed things.

Acer expects me to pay for updated drivers. Anon

You're on the right track, since hardware controls on Acer laptops rely on

software as well as drivers to 

[AI] MS OFFICE 2010

2010-09-09 Thread Sanjay
With Microsoft Office 2010 and Office Web Apps soon to be released, CARRIE-ANN

SKINNER offers time-saving tips and tricks for all versions of the productivity

suite

Work better in Office 2010 

Microsoft Office 2010 is expected to go on sale in the next month or so.

Available in beta since late 2009, Office 2010 introduces new tools that improve

the efficiency of the notoriously bloated productivity suite.

These include the ability to preview paste options and edit images within a Word

document; create Sparkline charts in Excel - tiny graphs within a cell that

summarise data in preceding cells; and broadcast a PowerPoint presentation

without first setting up a web meeting.

Outlook also gets a revamp, with the ribbon interface first introduced to other

Office programs in the 2007 suite looking likely to make email management

easier. You'll be able to view threaded conversations, too.

But the biggest change of all is the introduction of Office Web Apps. This

online dimension to the suite is Microsoft's nod towards the cloud. Using this,

you'll be able to view, edit and share Word, PowerPoint, Excel and OneNote

documents online.

You don't need to have Office 2010 installed to use Web Apps; documents can be

accessed from any computer with an internet connection and in any web browser.

This first iteration of Web Apps will have limited functionality, but it's a

move we're happy to see Microsoft make. The online version of Word will offer

basic functions such as printing documents, copying and pasting text, inserting

images and hyperlinks, creating tables and spellchecking. Excel, PowerPoint and

OneNote will have even fewer features.

Another provision for working online sees Office 2010 integrating the Windows

Live SkyDrive storage service, offering up to 25GB.

Microsoft has promised a free Office 2010 upgrade voucher to those who buy

Office 2007 between now and 30 September. Editions purchased with an

educational discount are excluded from this offer.

For new users, Office 2010 will cost ukp109 for a Home and Student three-user

licence, ukp239 for a Home and Business two-user licence and ukp429 for a

Professional two-user licence.

Here, we look at time-saving tips for all versions of Office. Plus, we show you

how to get Office 2010 now.

USE MICROSOFT WORD MORE EFFICIENTLY 

START It can be irritating to copy and paste text from the web into a Word

document and find that hyperlinks remain intact. Right-clicking each link and

choosing 'Remove Hyperlink' can be time-consuming if you have multiple

instances; instead, select all the text (Ctrl, A) and press Ctrl, Shift, F9.

2 It's possible to increase font sizes by double-clicking to select the text you

want and then choosing from the options available in the ribbon toolbar. A

faster method is to hold down Shift and use the arrow keys to select the text,

then press ] to increase or [ to decrease the font size in 1pt increments.

3 Shuffling paragraphs around using normal cut-and-paste methods can be fiddly.

To save time, place the cursor anywhere within the paragraph you want to move.

Press Alt, Shift and the Up arrow to swap the paragraph with the one above it or

Alt, Shift and the Down arrow to move it down.

4 Tables can be tricky to edit and format. To release the text, highlight it,

choose the Table tab and click Convert, Table to Text. When you've finished

editing, separate your columns with Tab breaks and click Convert, Text to Table.

You'll be presented with options to adjust the width of columns and rows in the

table.

5 If you want to create a document with some parts invisible to some readers,

the Hidden text function is ideal. Select the text you want to hide, then click

Format, Font and select 'Hidden'. To view it, click Tools, Options, View and

tick 'Hidden Text'. To print the whole document select Options, Print and

select 'Hidden Text'.

6 Microsoft Office comes with a number of document templates; if you can't find

what you need, more can be downloaded from tinyurl.com/4oraj. Alternatively,

create your own. To save a document as a template, choose Save As and select

Document Template in the 'Save as type' field. J

HELPFUL DOWNLOADS 

Xobni 

Xobni is a free add-on that runs in a sidebar and makes it easier to find

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Re: [AI] AccessIndia Digest, Vol 53, Issue 25

2010-09-09 Thread kannan


- Original Message - 
From: accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 12:30 AM
Subject: AccessIndia Digest, Vol 53, Issue 25
sharing idea about proffessional tax

Dear Friend benjee sir, i am G. Kannan like to share the posision about the 
proffessional tax situation in our state tamilnadu. dear sir in our state 
tamilnadu i know shurely we have no need to pay proffessional tax. in my 
persnal experience when i was joined in the college at dharmapuri in 1994 my 
institute took tax  without my Knowledge from my sallary bill. after a month 
with the idea of the  sincere  trusherer' dutyness s  the instute repay me 
the full amount. so i like to say you that sir please don't pay the 
proffessional tax.thanking you.

yours
friend
g. kannan.

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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 00:20:56 +0530
From: Sameer sala...@gawab.com
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] clarification requested on professional tax
exemption forpersons with visual challenges
Message-ID: 000301cb4d2b$49cdaee0$1d0b1...@g31
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
reply-type=original


Dear Friend,

Kindly let us know which state do you reside in.

Profession tax is a state subject  every state has enacted it's own
profession tax act.

Regards
Mr. Sameer Latey
Mumbai, India
- Original Message - 
From: vinod benjamin vinbe...@gmail.com

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2010 11:46 PM
Subject: [AI] clarification requested on professional tax exemption
forpersons with visual challenges



Dear Access Indians,



Would like to know is there any exemption for professional tax, as I work
for an MNC ,I have been paying this for the past 2 years , if you could
support me with any G O that would be of great help , would like to add
that
I am availing  I T exemption but not professional tax.



Thanking you in anticipation,



Vinod Benjamin

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Re: [AI] Sharing steps to send files using drop box...

2010-09-09 Thread Vamshi. G
Hi Bhavesh,

Thank you very much for the steps.  Though I know the first task, I
have never tried the second task.  Now it's clear.  But my doubt is
after the folder is shared, can both the parties share information, or
the person who has created the folder can only share the information
and the person with whom the folder has been shared can only be a mere
user of the information?

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From darkness unto light





On 9/8/10, Bhavesh Dhanak bhavesh.dha...@yahoo.co.in wrote:
 Hi friends,
 Hope you all are rocking!
 As I wrote the steps to send files using drop box, for some of my friends,
 so sharing with you, thinking it would be of help to someone.
 So those of you who knows, sorry for this mail.
 In dropbox, we have 2 main options to share files:
 1.
 Sending someone a file using  public folder. 
 2.
 Sharing files with someone using  share folder option .
 Now, 1st let's throw a light on Sending someone a file using public folder
 option:
 Note:
 Please remember, that using this option, you can send only 1 single file.
 For sending multiple files, you have to send it as a zipped file.
 Steps:
 If you go to my documents, you will find an icon  my drop box .
 Open it and you will find public folder.
 Open this public folder and paste your desired file in this folder.
  Now it will start uploading
 To check it's status of uploading, press insert+f11 to open the system tray
 icon and check with down arrow keys  dropbox, or just press letter D,
 and mister jaws would say something like,  dropbox 1 file uploading...
 Once it is  uploaded, it would say,  dropbox all files up to date .
 Once it's done, go to my dropbox/public folder, and keep the cursor on your
 file which you are uploading.
 Here, press the application key, and open dropbox sub menu, and then
 finally, hit enter on  copy public link  option.
 Now go to your desired place, or the Email which you are sending and just
 paste the link there, and you are ready to go!
 Now about  share folder   option:
 1st trying to throw a spot light on this option:
  share folder option gives us freedom to share a folder between computers.
 So any file kept in this folder, will be available in both the computers.
 Aha! remembering the awsome movie,  3 ediots , toe demo kar kay bataana
 chaahta hoo.
 Imagine, we are sharing a folder named,  Krishna .
 Now, go to your my dropbox, which will be in my documents by default, and
 create a folder, and name it as Krishna.
 Now copy your desired file which you want me to send, and paste it into
 Krishna folder.
 It can be any file, text or an audio such as a Krishna bhajan etc...
 now, once it finishes uploading, go to my dropbox, keep cursor on that
 Krishna folder, press application key on that folder,and with down/up arrow
 keys, keep cursor on dropbox sub menu and press right arrow to open it, or
 simply press D to reach there, and open it with right arrow.
 Now with up arrow key, hit enter on  share this folder... option .
 Now the dropbox web page will be opened...
 Once it's been  loaded, look for  Enter recipient email addresses here .
 Under this you will find an edit box saying, Enter recipient email
 addresses here edit. 
 So enter the person's Email address to whom you want to share this folder
 with,
 in this edit box, so according to our example, bhavesh.dha...@gmail.com

 After entering Email address, there  will be a heading stating sending a
 personal message to that person.
 So if you wish to write a note, you can write in that below given edit box.
 Now, you are ready to fly this krishna folder across 7 seas, all over to
 Dubai, so just hit enter in the below button saying,share folder button
  .
 So now, I will get an Email, as well as you will get a confirmation mail.
 So I have to just click the link given in that mail, so the dropbox web page
 will be opened, and I have to accept it from the web page.
  once i do this, automatically, it will start downloading in my laptop, and
 once downloading is finished, I will see  Krishna  folder in my dropbox,
 and inside it, the melodious  bhajan in your melodious  voice! (smiles)
 Aha! seems you are tired reading all this right?
 Okay not boring you more, and shutting down!
 Sorry if any errors.
  Bye, God Bless, keep laughing!
  If you don't get time to pray, try to make people laugh! 

 For gossips, feel free to catch me on:
 Skype: bhavesh.dhanak
 Yahoo Messenger: bhavesh.dha...@yahoo.co.in
 Windows Live: bhavesh.dha...@hotmail.com
 To drop an Email: bhavesh.dha...@gmail.com

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Re: [AI] Examinations

2010-09-09 Thread BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA
this means that a person will be forced to travel 500KMS to attend his exam. 
here in chhattisgarh, the government had setup  a separate centres for 
disabled persons, and the centre was far of from their residence. please 
don't compare Delhi with rest of India.


- Original Message - 
From: akhilesh akhil.akhi...@gmail.com

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 1:07 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Examinations



There has to be a sepret exam center for the  visually challenged
candidates in state level. The experienced persons should be appointed
to look after the examinees and not only this, any knowledgeable and
suitable visually challenged person should also be invited to moniter
the exams.
this type of solution can work well as far net exam conducted by UGC,
and PCS and PSC exams conducted by the concern authorities by
respective states.
As far as I know, UPSC is providing such facility I.E. sepret and
dedicated exam center for the visually challenged in delhi region.

Regards,
Akhilesh.


On 9/9/10, Pamnani kanchanpamn...@gmail.com wrote:

Yes I agree with you on this issue but since we had a judgement in our
favour I want to know if it has ever been used and the result.
K
Kanchan Pamnani
Advocate  Solicitor
9, Suleman Chambers,
Battery Street, Colaba,
Mumbai - 400 039.



- Original Message -
From: Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 10:07 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Examinations



I don't subscribe to idea of taking public exams in Braille.
It would mark out papers of VI separately, beside requiring valuers to
learn Braille.
Or they would have to be valued separately by Braille knowing persons,
which is not fair.
Simple solution of taking scribe by candidate without any undue
restrictions is fair enough.


-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kanchan
Pamnani
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 5:35 AM
To: Access India
Subject: [AI] Examinations

Thanks friends I have been reading all the mails and should start
compiling them next weekend so if there are more issues lets discuss 
them

immediately.

1. There will be no compromise on Candidate's right to choose his scribe
and
2. At this stage we cannot insist that all exams be taken on line-sorry
techies you need to be practical about this. We are talking about the
country and all exams.

Lets look at other issues and dont waste time on the above 2. Maybe we 
can


think of different kinds of exams and their pecularities.

Some years ago National Federation of the Blind had won a judgement 
which

stated that the Blind can give the U P S  E in braille. I needed to know
if anyone has really done it in braille or has anyone even heard of a
person who did it in braille. I need to know the experience.

Thanks
Kanchan
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[AI] Nokia E52 users

2010-09-09 Thread Surajsingh Jogi
Hi everyone,
Nokia E52 users please contact me off-line.
This e-mail is user specific.
My contacts:
Mobile 919930137525
Email: soorajsing...@gmail.com
Regards,

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Re: [AI] Problem with web visum

2010-09-09 Thread Swasti Mathur
since yesterday i am unable to solve captcha with help of web visam. any 
solutions?

VIJAY KUMAR P.V.S. wrote:

Hi:



Press Alt + control + 6 and wait for thirty seconds. Please remember 
it is only six not F6.




With warm regards

VIJAY

- Original Message - From: puneet pathak 
pathak.nomi.pun...@gmail.com
To: Raghavendra Janiwarada raghavendrajaniwar...@gmail.com; 
accessindia@accessindia.org.in

Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 11:28 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Problem with web visum



hello friends! i'm trying to create account with gmail using it but it
is not solving the capcha even after pressing ault+control+f6 or
control+f6. i'm using firefox3.6.

On 9/8/10, Raghavendra Janiwarada raghavendrajaniwar...@gmail.com 
wrote:

Hello sir,
It is as same as creating e-mail account. Here you need to ask someone
create and provide invitation code who already has Web Visum 
account. Or

else, request Web Visum to provide it. Just click invitation link on
webvisum.com
I hope you'll find it.
Raghavendra
- Original Message -
From: Subramani L lsubramani.v...@gmail.com
To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 1:21 PM
Subject: [AI] Problem with web visum



Folks:

I just tried creating a web visum account with firefox as my browser.
I filled in everything, but it asks for invitation code. I don't
understand this... Pl enlighten me and tell me what am I supposed to
fill in there? Why these annoyances? I don't understand.

Subramani

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Re: [AI] Problem with web visum

2010-09-09 Thread Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan
That's too vague. Tell us exactly what happens.

On 09/09/2010, Swasti Mathur swastimat...@gmail.com wrote:
 since yesterday i am unable to solve captcha with help of web visam. any
 solutions?
 VIJAY KUMAR P.V.S. wrote:
 Hi:



 Press Alt + control + 6 and wait for thirty seconds. Please remember
 it is only six not F6.



 With warm regards

 VIJAY

 - Original Message - From: puneet pathak
 pathak.nomi.pun...@gmail.com
 To: Raghavendra Janiwarada raghavendrajaniwar...@gmail.com;
 accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 11:28 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Problem with web visum


 hello friends! i'm trying to create account with gmail using it but it
 is not solving the capcha even after pressing ault+control+f6 or
 control+f6. i'm using firefox3.6.

 On 9/8/10, Raghavendra Janiwarada raghavendrajaniwar...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 Hello sir,
 It is as same as creating e-mail account. Here you need to ask someone
 create and provide invitation code who already has Web Visum
 account. Or
 else, request Web Visum to provide it. Just click invitation link on
 webvisum.com
 I hope you'll find it.
 Raghavendra
 - Original Message -
 From: Subramani L lsubramani.v...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 1:21 PM
 Subject: [AI] Problem with web visum


 Folks:

 I just tried creating a web visum account with firefox as my browser.
 I filled in everything, but it asks for invitation code. I don't
 understand this... Pl enlighten me and tell me what am I supposed to
 fill in there? Why these annoyances? I don't understand.

 Subramani

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Re: [AI] Examinations

2010-09-09 Thread Swasti Mathur


in CBSE board rules for scribe are very linient. they dont compel neiter 
to have writer from different field or subject nor have any upper or 
lower percentage limits. a very simple rule which is to be followed is 
that writer should be in a standard less than the candidate is appearing 
for exam. candidates are permited to bring there own writers. a minor 
loophole exist there that scribe should not be in blood relation with 
candidate, implying sibling of vi candidate could not be writer of the 
candidate. this in my view is not in any way problematic issue as there 
are many people around us who fulfill above norms.
why not to have such flexible rules for all exams which are simple to be 
abide with?
madam, lets not focus on making all exams computer based. i agree that 
there are many technical issues involved in doing so. i know it will be 
a troublesome step for many as technology has not maneuvered all around 
india. i too hold antagonistic views for making all exams computer based 
for vi candidates.
but, it is really easy to make use of screen readers in those exams 
which are already computer based  thereby reducing dependability on 
scribe. what's the harm in doing so when our vi folks will become 
independent?

Kanchan Pamnani wrote:
Thanks friends I have been reading all the mails and should start compiling them next weekend so if there are more issues lets discuss them immediately. 


1. There will be no compromise on Candidate's right to choose his scribe
and 
2. At this stage we cannot insist that all exams be taken on line-sorry techies you need to be practical about this. We are talking about the country and all exams.


Lets look at other issues and dont waste time on the above 2. Maybe we can 
think of different kinds of exams and their pecularities.

Some years ago National Federation of the Blind had won a judgement which stated that the Blind can give the U P S  E in braille. I needed to know if anyone has really done it in braille or has anyone even heard of a person who did it in braille. I need to know the experience.  

Thanks 
Kanchan 
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[AI] Will you please suggest me?

2010-09-09 Thread Vasu
Hello friends,

I want to purchase new desktop with latest features. will you please suggest me 
the best processer ? what is your opinion about cor I3, 5, 7

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Re: [AI] Discrimination against blind and other disables in admission of B.Ed courses.

2010-09-09 Thread Ram Kumar
According to my opinion, no differently abled person is fit to be
discriminated based on the percentage of impairment and it is very
much unconstitutional. Secondly, no official or politician is
authorized

On 9/6/10, erenuka renukawarr...@gmail.com wrote:
 No such discrimination exist in Kerala for admission.  But recently the
 government is discouraging the appoinment of the blind teachers saying
 that the teaching method has been changed and the blind would find it
   difficult to follow the new method.
 On Mon, 2010-09-06 at 15:41 +0530, gautam wrote:
 Dear Access Indian friends,

 I take this opportunity to bring to your notice one more example of state
 sponsored discrimination against PWD in implementation of theory  of equal
 opportunities, protection of rights and full participation.  I also wish
 to
 have  your comments and suggestions to initiate the appropriate action.



 Actually one month back, on the behalf of NFB, Karnataka I filed a RTI
 application to all the B. Ed colleges of the state for seeking the correct
 informations about status of reservation of seats for blind and other
 disables in B. Ed courses.  In response to these  applications what I have
 been informed according to that the persons with more than 75% disability
 are not allowed to seek admission in B. Ed courses in Karnataka.   One of
 the colleges has informed me that they don't give the admission to blind
 in
 B. Ed courses because they  have no  facilities to teach them.



 Looking forward for you expertise comments and suggestions on the matter.



 With regards,



 Gautam Agarwal

 President,

 National Federation of the Blind

 Karnataka Branch

 Bangalore.



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Re: [AI] Discrimination against blind and other disables in admission of B.Ed courses.

2010-09-09 Thread Ram Kumar
According to my opinion, no differently abled person is fit to be
discriminated based on the percentage of impairment and it is very
much unconstitutional. Secondly, no official or politician is
authorized to arrive at any conclusion that we visually challenged
people are incapable of  adopting any new method in terms of teaching.
I am certain that we can outbeat the normal people in the career of
teaching. Hence, We shall never allow anybody to grab our
opportunities.


On 9/9/10, Ram Kumar drkwis...@gmail.com wrote:
 According to my opinion, no differently abled person is fit to be
 discriminated based on the percentage of impairment and it is very
 much unconstitutional. Secondly, no official or politician is
 authorized

 On 9/6/10, erenuka renukawarr...@gmail.com wrote:
 No such discrimination exist in Kerala for admission.  But recently the
 government is discouraging the appoinment of the blind teachers saying
 that the teaching method has been changed and the blind would find it
  difficult to follow the new method.
 On Mon, 2010-09-06 at 15:41 +0530, gautam wrote:
 Dear Access Indian friends,

 I take this opportunity to bring to your notice one more example of
 state
 sponsored discrimination against PWD in implementation of theory  of
 equal
 opportunities, protection of rights and full participation.  I also wish
 to
 have  your comments and suggestions to initiate the appropriate action.



 Actually one month back, on the behalf of NFB, Karnataka I filed a RTI
 application to all the B. Ed colleges of the state for seeking the
 correct
 informations about status of reservation of seats for blind and other
 disables in B. Ed courses.  In response to these  applications what I
 have
 been informed according to that the persons with more than 75%
 disability
 are not allowed to seek admission in B. Ed courses in Karnataka.   One
 of
 the colleges has informed me that they don't give the admission to blind
 in
 B. Ed courses because they  have no  facilities to teach them.



 Looking forward for you expertise comments and suggestions on the
 matter.



 With regards,



 Gautam Agarwal

 President,

 National Federation of the Blind

 Karnataka Branch

 Bangalore.



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Re: [AI] Examinations

2010-09-09 Thread Kartik Sawhney
According to me, there should be no rules regarding the qualifications
of the writer whatsoever. The only golden rule should be strict
invigilation and nothing else. A scribe one year lower also causes a
No. of problems in technical and professional examinations wherein the
technicalities of the question or the diagram etc. cannot be properly
explained to the candidate by him/her as he/she has absolutely no
ideas.

-Kartik

On 9/9/10, Swasti Mathur swastimat...@gmail.com wrote:

 in CBSE board rules for scribe are very linient. they dont compel neiter
 to have writer from different field or subject nor have any upper or
 lower percentage limits. a very simple rule which is to be followed is
 that writer should be in a standard less than the candidate is appearing
 for exam. candidates are permited to bring there own writers. a minor
 loophole exist there that scribe should not be in blood relation with
 candidate, implying sibling of vi candidate could not be writer of the
 candidate. this in my view is not in any way problematic issue as there
 are many people around us who fulfill above norms.
 why not to have such flexible rules for all exams which are simple to be
 abide with?
 madam, lets not focus on making all exams computer based. i agree that
 there are many technical issues involved in doing so. i know it will be
 a troublesome step for many as technology has not maneuvered all around
 india. i too hold antagonistic views for making all exams computer based
 for vi candidates.
 but, it is really easy to make use of screen readers in those exams
 which are already computer based  thereby reducing dependability on
 scribe. what's the harm in doing so when our vi folks will become
 independent?
 Kanchan Pamnani wrote:
 Thanks friends I have been reading all the mails and should start
 compiling them next weekend so if there are more issues lets discuss them
 immediately.

 1. There will be no compromise on Candidate's right to choose his scribe
 and
 2. At this stage we cannot insist that all exams be taken on line-sorry
 techies you need to be practical about this. We are talking about the
 country and all exams.

 Lets look at other issues and dont waste time on the above 2. Maybe we can
 think of different kinds of exams and their pecularities.

 Some years ago National Federation of the Blind had won a judgement which
 stated that the Blind can give the U P S  E in braille. I needed to know
 if anyone has really done it in braille or has anyone even heard of a
 person who did it in braille. I need to know the experience.

 Thanks
 Kanchan
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[AI] Blindfolded, they Experienced Disability

2010-09-09 Thread shahnaz

Blindfolded, they experienced disability
Published: Thursday, Sep 9, 2010, 2:22 IST
By Mihika Basu | Place: Mumbai | Agency: DNA
Imagine working, boarding a bus or even shopping blindfolded.
This is exactly what students and professionals experienced at a 
sensitisation workshop-cum-exhibition
organised by the Xavier's Resource Centre for the Visually Challenged 
(XRCVC) at
St Xavier's College on Wednesday.
The two-day event, Antarchakshu, focused on three aspects: education, 
transportation,
routine activities and accessible consumer products.
No amount of lectures can make one understand ground realities. The 
experiential
learning process is aimed at sensitising people about the lives of 
the visually challenged
and will give people a deeper understanding of the problems faced, 
said Sam Taraporevala,
XRCVC director. From getting a taste of the hazards on our roads and 
accessibility
problems, to learning skills required for identifying, travelling and 
boarding a
bus, around 580 participants went through the experience blindfolded.
Let alone the right infrastructure, we don't even have the right 
attitude towards
disability in India. The workshop should make people aware of the 
needs of disabled,
said Arun Sehgal, visiting professor at the Jamnalal Bajaj Institute 
of Management
Studies.
Several participants said the best feature was the two BEST buses 
which were stationed
inside the college. I learnt how difficult it is for the visually 
challenged to
board our buses, let alone identify whether it's the correct one or 
not, said Zeenat
Motiwala, student of the Bombay Teachers' Training College (Colaba).
Around 130 student volunteers guided the participants as they tried 
to shop, walk
through hurdles, and assemble circuits, among other things. Some 
participants were
nervous and insecure since they couldn't see anything, said Henna 
Khemani, a student-guide.
Ravi Thakur, a visually challenged Xavier's alumni, said the target 
audience this
year was not just students, but professionals, academicians and 
corporates. Visually
challenged professionals from various fields de-briefed the 
participants. People
should realise that we are equally capable, said Thakur, who works 
with the National
Association for the Blind.


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Re: [AI] Examinations

2010-09-09 Thread Amit Bhatt

Dear Kanchan,

I too endorse to your opinion of having the same centre with the other 
sighted candidates. We cannot expect each and everything to be happened in 
our favor. Let's  not try to disconnect from the Mainstream of our Society.


Regards,

Amit Bhatt
- Original Message - 
From: Pamnani kanchanpamn...@gmail.com

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Examinations


I thought that having a center for the disabled is quite a bad idea. We 
need a special room but within the same center as others. I know that U P S 
E is doing this but I think it is pure tokenism. I rather have a better 
writer than a special center.

Kanchan Pamnani
Advocate  Solicitor
9, Suleman Chambers,
Battery Street, Colaba,
Mumbai - 400 039.



- Original Message - 
From: akhilesh akhil.akhi...@gmail.com

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 1:07 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Examinations



There has to be a sepret exam center for the  visually challenged
candidates in state level. The experienced persons should be appointed
to look after the examinees and not only this, any knowledgeable and
suitable visually challenged person should also be invited to moniter
the exams.
this type of solution can work well as far net exam conducted by UGC,
and PCS and PSC exams conducted by the concern authorities by
respective states.
As far as I know, UPSC is providing such facility I.E. sepret and
dedicated exam center for the visually challenged in delhi region.

Regards,
Akhilesh.


On 9/9/10, Pamnani kanchanpamn...@gmail.com wrote:

Yes I agree with you on this issue but since we had a judgement in our
favour I want to know if it has ever been used and the result.
K
Kanchan Pamnani
Advocate  Solicitor
9, Suleman Chambers,
Battery Street, Colaba,
Mumbai - 400 039.



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From: Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 10:07 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Examinations



I don't subscribe to idea of taking public exams in Braille.
It would mark out papers of VI separately, beside requiring valuers to
learn Braille.
Or they would have to be valued separately by Braille knowing persons,
which is not fair.
Simple solution of taking scribe by candidate without any undue
restrictions is fair enough.


-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kanchan
Pamnani
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 5:35 AM
To: Access India
Subject: [AI] Examinations

Thanks friends I have been reading all the mails and should start
compiling them next weekend so if there are more issues lets discuss 
them

immediately.

1. There will be no compromise on Candidate's right to choose his 
scribe

and
2. At this stage we cannot insist that all exams be taken on line-sorry
techies you need to be practical about this. We are talking about the
country and all exams.

Lets look at other issues and dont waste time on the above 2. Maybe we 
can


think of different kinds of exams and their pecularities.

Some years ago National Federation of the Blind had won a judgement 
which
stated that the Blind can give the U P S  E in braille. I needed to 
know

if anyone has really done it in braille or has anyone even heard of a
person who did it in braille. I need to know the experience.

Thanks
Kanchan
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Re: [AI] Will you please suggest me?

2010-09-09 Thread KARAN GUPTA
Core i3, i5  i7 are more energy efficient, core 2 duo is still powerful 
though. Also, solid state drive (ssd) could make your machine run at lightening 
speed rather than standard hhd. 

Kindest Regards
- Karan Gupta

~ Sent from my mobile device



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Subject: [AI] Will you please suggest me?


Hello friends,

I want to purchase new desktop with latest features. will you please suggest me 
the best processer ? what is your opinion about cor I3, 5, 7

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Re: [AI] Examinations

2010-09-09 Thread Amit Bhatt

You very well said Rajesh bhai!!
Although thought of using Braille in the examination was also in my mind for 
a while but if we deeply analyze it's practical aspects on the ground level, 
it is not wise to use Braille.
Using Braille means that the team to evaluate or check the papers will be 
deputed separately. There is a huge possibility of increasing such problems.
Along with you I would also say that making so many norms in order to use a 
Scribe is unnecessary. it is quite enough that the Writer should be one 
class junior than the VI Candidate. I even do not see any logic of using the 
Scribe who has less marks than the applicant when the Scribe is already one 
standard lower than the examinee.


Regards,

Amit Bhatt

- Original Message - 
From: Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 10:07 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Examinations



I don't subscribe to idea of taking public exams in Braille.
It would mark out papers of VI separately, beside requiring valuers to 
learn Braille.
Or they would have to be valued separately by Braille knowing persons, 
which is not fair.
Simple solution of taking scribe by candidate without any undue 
restrictions is fair enough.



-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kanchan 
Pamnani

Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 5:35 AM
To: Access India
Subject: [AI] Examinations

Thanks friends I have been reading all the mails and should start 
compiling them next weekend so if there are more issues lets discuss them 
immediately.


1. There will be no compromise on Candidate's right to choose his scribe
and
2. At this stage we cannot insist that all exams be taken on line-sorry 
techies you need to be practical about this. We are talking about the 
country and all exams.


Lets look at other issues and dont waste time on the above 2. Maybe we can 
think of different kinds of exams and their pecularities.


Some years ago National Federation of the Blind had won a judgement which 
stated that the Blind can give the U P S  E in braille. I needed to know 
if anyone has really done it in braille or has anyone even heard of a 
person who did it in braille. I need to know the experience.


Thanks
Kanchan
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[AI] benefits for vc

2010-09-09 Thread Vgem Vadagam
sir,
pl. let me know ab. these  in karnataka
1. about readers allowance for students and teaching faculty.
2. ab. convenience allowance   ''  ''
3. ab. supply of brl. books    ''  ''  upto which 
level
4. ab. IED project - brl. or print limitations
5. ab. low vision chn.
6. ab. vc teachers in sighted schools.

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[AI] Breakthrough: sensors that can convert thoughts into speech

2010-09-09 Thread Gopalakrishnan
Breakthrough: sensors that can convert thoughts into speech 

London, September 8, 2010 

IANS

A mind reading machine has edged closer to reality after scientists found a way 
of converting thoughts into words.
Researchers were able to render brain signals into speech for the first time, 
relying on sensors attached to the brain surface.

The breakthrough, which is up to 90 percent accurate, will be a boon for 
paralysed patients who cannot speak and could help read anyone’s thoughts 
ultimately, reports the Telegraph.

“We were beside ourselves with excitement when it started working,” said Prof 
Bradley Greger, bioengineer at the Utah University who led the project. “It was 
just one of the moments when everything came together.

“We have been able to decode spoken words using only signals from the brain 
with a device that has promise for long-term use in paralysed patients who 
cannot speak. I would call it brain reading and we hope that in two or three 
years it will be available for use for paralysed patients.”

The breakthrough came when the team attached two button-sized grids of 16 tiny 
electrodes to an epileptic’s brain’s speech centres, says the journal of Neural 
Engineering.

The patient had part of his skull removed for another operation to treat his 
condition.

Using electrodes, the scientists recorded brain signals in a computer as the 
patient repeatedly read each of 10 words that might be useful to a paralysed 
person: yes, no, hot, cold, hungry, thirsty, hello, goodbye, more and less.

Then they got him to repeat the words to the computer and it was able to match 
the brain signals for each word 76 percent to 90 percent of the time.

The computer picked up the patient’s brain waves as he talked and did not use 
any voice recognition software.

Because just thinking a word is enough to produce the same brain signals, Prof. 
Greger and his team believe that soon they will be able to have translation 
device and voice box that repeats the word you are thinking.

Besides, the brains of paralysed people are just as healthy and produce the 
same signals as those in physically-fit people - it is just they are blocked by 
injury from reaching the muscle.

Researchers said the method needs improvement, but could lead in a few years to 
clinical trials on paralysed people who cannot speak due to so-called 
“locked-in” syndrome.

“This is proof of concept,” Prof. Greger said adding: “We’ve proven these 
signals can tell you what the person is saying well above chance.”


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Re: [AI] computer training centers

2010-09-09 Thread Vamshi G
Hi,

There is NIVH in Punamali road, I think.  If I'm wrong, please type NIVH in
Google and you will the get the correct address.

Regards,
Vamshi G
M: +91 9949349497
R: +91 877 2243861
Skype: gvamshi81
 
www.retinaindia.org
From darkness unto light
 
 

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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Jeevaraj
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 12:30 PM
To: accessindia
Subject: [AI] computer training centers

hello dear list, i hope all are doing good
i want addresses, of computer training centers on Chennai
if you have any information on that, please send to me.
thanks in advance

Email: jeeva.kingje...@gmail.com

with best regards
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[AI] exams.

2010-09-09 Thread Vgem Vadagam
sir, 
 we be proud to use brl. as this the only unique script  in the world. 
acg. to their accent it can be read by any vc. no such script is available 
for sighted except devanagari. 
  for exams. braillers may be used. computers may be used. 
 Webel of kolkatta is supplying useful operators. many softwares are
coming up for vc. the brl. recognising softwares r also available for 
correction. and even our brl knowing sighted or sightless will evaluate 

the brl. answer papers. and even pictorial brl. question papers can also
supplied. subject to the commitment of the teachers either sighted or vc.
I strongly feel sightless must learn Braille like his mothertongue, 
then only we respect the great inventor of the script for vc.   

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[AI] Query Regarding Addressbook

2010-09-09 Thread Dr. Yogesh Sharma
Hi dear learned friends, Hope you all are enjoying the beauty and pleasant cool 
of the rainy season and are safe from the havoc caused by excessive rain. This 
time my query is regarding Addressbook in Outlook Express. I have a huge file 
in M S Word, which contains the e mail I Ds of friends. Is there any method by 
which I can transfer or copy all these contacts in to my Addressbook in Outlook 
Express? Please suggest and oblige.
Warm regards.
Sincerely yours, Yogesh.
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Re: [AI] exams.

2010-09-09 Thread Madhu Singhal

Dear Members,
So many of you have kept the thaught to use the braille in the examination.
But my concern is if one braille dot will be here and there or missing the 
dot makes lot of complication.

Knowingly unknowingly it will happen.
So many of us knows braille very well but still, some time less pressure it 
happened.
- Original Message - 
From: Vgem Vadagam vgemvada...@yahoo.co.in

To: rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in
Cc: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 10:54 PM
Subject: [AI] exams.


sir,
we be proud to use brl. as this the only unique script in the world.
acg. to their accent it can be read by any vc. no such script is available
for sighted except devanagari.
for exams. braillers may be used. computers may be used.
Webel of kolkatta is supplying useful operators. many softwares are
coming up for vc. the brl. recognising softwares r also available for
correction. and even our brl knowing sighted or sightless will evaluate

the brl. answer papers. and even pictorial brl. question papers can also
supplied. subject to the commitment of the teachers either sighted or vc.
I strongly feel sightless must learn Braille like his mothertongue,
then only we respect the great inventor of the script for vc.

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Re: [AI] exams.

2010-09-09 Thread nomi
Question paper can be set in braille but i don't think that it is possibal to 
write whole exam in braille. A student appearing in the tenth standard exam 
will have to write 80 90 pages which is a thing next to impossible. Braille has 
some limitations and speed and space are some of them.

-- original message --
Subject:Re: [AI] exams.
From:   Madhu Singhal madhu.singha...@gmail.com
Date:   09/09/2010 11:06 pm

Dear Members,
So many of you have kept the thaught to use the braille in the examination.
But my concern is if one braille dot will be here and there or missing the 
dot makes lot of complication.
Knowingly unknowingly it will happen.
So many of us knows braille very well but still, some time less pressure it 
happened.
- Original Message - 
From: Vgem Vadagam vgemvada...@yahoo.co.in
To: rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in
Cc: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 10:54 PM
Subject: [AI] exams.


sir,
we be proud to use brl. as this the only unique script in the world.
acg. to their accent it can be read by any vc. no such script is available
for sighted except devanagari.
for exams. braillers may be used. computers may be used.
Webel of kolkatta is supplying useful operators. many softwares are
coming up for vc. the brl. recognising softwares r also available for
correction. and even our brl knowing sighted or sightless will evaluate

the brl. answer papers. and even pictorial brl. question papers can also
supplied. subject to the commitment of the teachers either sighted or vc.
I strongly feel sightless must learn Braille like his mothertongue,
then only we respect the great inventor of the script for vc.

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Re: [AI] Sharing steps to send files using drop box...

2010-09-09 Thread Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan
Frankly, making a folder to be shared by another person from your PC
is not a good idea since that folder can be used as a mediam to hack
in to your PC. If you want to share files, you can send it's
associated link to your friend and it's as good as accessing a shared
folder.

Vetri.

On 09/09/2010, Vamshi. G gvamsh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Bhavesh,

 Thank you very much for the steps.  Though I know the first task, I
 have never tried the second task.  Now it's clear.  But my doubt is
 after the folder is shared, can both the parties share information, or
 the person who has created the folder can only share the information
 and the person with whom the folder has been shared can only be a mere
 user of the information?

 --
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 Mobile: +91 9949349497
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 On 9/8/10, Bhavesh Dhanak bhavesh.dha...@yahoo.co.in wrote:
 Hi friends,
 Hope you all are rocking!
 As I wrote the steps to send files using drop box, for some of my friends,
 so sharing with you, thinking it would be of help to someone.
 So those of you who knows, sorry for this mail.
 In dropbox, we have 2 main options to share files:
 1.
 Sending someone a file using  public folder. 
 2.
 Sharing files with someone using  share folder option .
 Now, 1st let's throw a light on Sending someone a file using public folder
 option:
 Note:
 Please remember, that using this option, you can send only 1 single file.
 For sending multiple files, you have to send it as a zipped file.
 Steps:
 If you go to my documents, you will find an icon  my drop box .
 Open it and you will find public folder.
 Open this public folder and paste your desired file in this folder.
  Now it will start uploading
 To check it's status of uploading, press insert+f11 to open the system
 tray
 icon and check with down arrow keys  dropbox, or just press letter D,
 and mister jaws would say something like,  dropbox 1 file uploading...
 Once it is  uploaded, it would say,  dropbox all files up to date .
 Once it's done, go to my dropbox/public folder, and keep the cursor on
 your
 file which you are uploading.
 Here, press the application key, and open dropbox sub menu, and then
 finally, hit enter on  copy public link  option.
 Now go to your desired place, or the Email which you are sending and just
 paste the link there, and you are ready to go!
 Now about  share folder   option:
 1st trying to throw a spot light on this option:
  share folder option gives us freedom to share a folder between computers.
 So any file kept in this folder, will be available in both the computers.
 Aha! remembering the awsome movie,  3 ediots , toe demo kar kay bataana
 chaahta hoo.
 Imagine, we are sharing a folder named,  Krishna .
 Now, go to your my dropbox, which will be in my documents by default, and
 create a folder, and name it as Krishna.
 Now copy your desired file which you want me to send, and paste it into
 Krishna folder.
 It can be any file, text or an audio such as a Krishna bhajan etc...
 now, once it finishes uploading, go to my dropbox, keep cursor on that
 Krishna folder, press application key on that folder,and with down/up
 arrow
 keys, keep cursor on dropbox sub menu and press right arrow to open it, or
 simply press D to reach there, and open it with right arrow.
 Now with up arrow key, hit enter on  share this folder... option .
 Now the dropbox web page will be opened...
 Once it's been  loaded, look for  Enter recipient email addresses here .
 Under this you will find an edit box saying, Enter recipient email
 addresses here edit. 
 So enter the person's Email address to whom you want to share this folder
 with,
 in this edit box, so according to our example, bhavesh.dha...@gmail.com

 After entering Email address, there  will be a heading stating sending a
 personal message to that person.
 So if you wish to write a note, you can write in that below given edit
 box.
 Now, you are ready to fly this krishna folder across 7 seas, all over to
 Dubai, so just hit enter in the below button saying,share folder
 button
  .
 So now, I will get an Email, as well as you will get a confirmation mail.
 So I have to just click the link given in that mail, so the dropbox web
 page
 will be opened, and I have to accept it from the web page.
  once i do this, automatically, it will start downloading in my laptop,
 and
 once downloading is finished, I will see  Krishna  folder in my dropbox,
 and inside it, the melodious  bhajan in your melodious  voice! (smiles)
 Aha! seems you are tired reading all this right?
 Okay not boring you more, and shutting down!
 Sorry if any errors.
  Bye, God Bless, keep laughing!
  If you don't get time to pray, try to make people laugh! 

 For gossips, feel free to catch me on:
 Skype: bhavesh.dhanak
 Yahoo Messenger: bhavesh.dha...@yahoo.co.in
 Windows Live: bhavesh.dha...@hotmail.com
 To drop an Email: 

Re: [AI] (no subject)

2010-09-09 Thread Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan
If my memory is correct, JAWS 12 is going to have some interface
whereby JAWS can read brail. Freedomscientific news letter contains
the latest info on that.

Vetri.

On 09/09/2010, KARAN GUPTA kara...@gmail.com wrote:
 I second Harish, I assume that very gadget is not cent percent accurate.

 Kindest Regards
 - Karan Gupta

 ~ Sent from my mobile device


 -Original Message-
 From: Srinivasu Chakravarthula
 Sent:  09.09.2010, 1:33  PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] (no subject)


 I forgot the name, but I think there is a gadget which scans converts
 Braille to print. If that is true, for large scale exams, Govt should
 buy such a device and send all braille papers to that centralized
 location of the state for eveluation. It would be reasonable to ask
 Govt to procure the same at every eveluation centre.

 On 9/9/10, Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in wrote:
 Dear Rajesh

 Well, I beg to differ, just because a paper is written in Braille, it is
 expected the paper would be evaluated by VI or it is expected the
 evaluator
 is expected to learn Braille. Braille is certainly an option and the
 importance of Braille should not be undermined.

 How to deal with Braille paper is an operational issue to be dealt with
 the
 authority. Certainly the practical way out is to get it transcribed by a
 person knowing Braille. Sighted or blind.

 I would go further to state we should write in Braille to authorities to
 ensure the importance of Braille as a medium.

 I am unsure if a Braille document can be considered as a legal document
 although I reckon there should be no bar in it.It should be interesting to
 know the legal status of Braille.

 Audio Recording is good, However, it would make the candidate and the
 scribe
 very conscious. Let us  not make a blind person treated like a criminal.If
 the scribe does not read well it will still not make the things better as
 no
 extra marks would be given for the wrong answer. If for any reason the
 authorities could not arrange for recording or if the recording did not
 come
 through will, some hypper intelligent babu would penalise a blind person
 for
 it. You never know.


 Harish Kotian.

 From: Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Examinations

 Well, braillers, what about evaluation?
 Do you want papers of VI to be valued by VI only, or would you insist
 valuers to learn Braille?


 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Amit Bhatt
 Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 10:12 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Examinations

 Well I too would not deny the fact that there is no better option than
 writing the exams on our own using the Assistive Technology or Computer.
 But
 if we want to use it just because some of the candidates are taking the
 help
 from their Writers, then use of Computer also seems to be futile and
 helpless to stop the cheating in the examination since Computer will be
 very
 useful to correct the spelling mistakes specially for those who are not
 that
 good in English spellings while writing a subjective Paper.
 I think currently the main theme of our on going discussion is Criteria
 and
 eligibility of Scribe, not about the Candidate whether he or she is
 honestly answering the papers or not. so better if we do not deviate from
 the original topic and do not discuss about cheating and copying in the
 exam. Otherwise this will be a endless debate and our motive of preparing
 the correct guidelines on Scribe eligibility will not be fulfilled,
 however,
 the problem of cheating will be remained there unless the Invigilator is
 very active. I would again say that how can you stop the sighted
 applicants
 who copy in the exam? So what my purpose is to say that doing swindle
 during
 the examinations is not our problem but the problem lies on the part of
 Invigilator and related authority who conduct the examination.
 As far as taking the Exams through Braille is concerned, the idea is good
 but then I would again say the time needs to be extended for writing the
 exams since practically writing Braille takes more energy as compare to
 use
 the pen and Braille cannot be faster than the print in writing in case of
 use of simple Braille-Slate. Yes, brailor can indeed be a very useful tool
 to overcome with the problem of speed but, now question is raised about
 how
 to arrange the Brailor, who would afford for those who cannot buy it and
 there are many such problems involved in the use of Brail script during
 the
 examination. So better if we continue with the use of Scribe.

 Regards,

 Amit Bhatt

 
 Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and
 intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are
 addressed. If you are not the intended 

Re: [AI] Sharing steps to send files using drop box...

2010-09-09 Thread Bhavesh Dhanak
with,
in this edit box, so according to our example, bhavesh.dha...@gmail.com

After entering Email address, there  will be a heading stating sending a
personal message to that person.
So if you wish to write a note, you can write in that below given edit
box.
Now, you are ready to fly this krishna folder across 7 seas, all over to
Dubai, so just hit enter in the below button saying,share folder
button
 .
So now, I will get an Email, as well as you will get a confirmation mail.
So I have to just click the link given in that mail, so the dropbox web
page
will be opened, and I have to accept it from the web page.
 once i do this, automatically, it will start downloading in my laptop,
and
once downloading is finished, I will see  Krishna  folder in my
dropbox,
and inside it, the melodious  bhajan in your melodious  voice! (smiles)
Aha! seems you are tired reading all this right?
Okay not boring you more, and shutting down!
Sorry if any errors.
 Bye, God Bless, keep laughing!
 If you don't get time to pray, try to make people laugh! 

For gossips, feel free to catch me on:
Skype: bhavesh.dhanak
Yahoo Messenger: bhavesh.dha...@yahoo.co.in
Windows Live: bhavesh.dha...@hotmail.com
To drop an Email: bhavesh.dha...@gmail.com

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[AI] exams

2010-09-09 Thread raghuraman kalyanaraman
friends, i would like to have exams for v i persons through computer
is there any possibility
is it being practised anywhere and if not, how this to be implemented?
also regarding outlook express, i had already asked a question.
so please tell me if there is any supstitute for outlook express
now i am using windows 7 and i couldnt find it
-- 
cheers raghu

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[AI] Blind concession in AC 2 tier apart from Rajdhani

2010-09-09 Thread Archana Bhatia
Hi All,

Just want to know that is there any concession for the Blind
in AC 2 tier apart from Rajdhani Train.
Somebody told me  that  blind are elgible  for railway  concession
both in AC 2 and AC 3 tier. In AC 2 tier the concession is 50% and in
AC 3 tier the concession is 75%.
When I am clicking on the railways website I can locate the concession
for AC 3 tier and not for AC 2 tier.
Any help on this would be appreciated.
Regards
Archana

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Re: [AI] exams.

2010-09-09 Thread Kartik Sawhney
Not only that, there are some students who are not very conversant
with braille, since they've learnt computers from the very beginning.
We should keep all the possibilities in mind.

On 9/9/10, nomi pathak.nomi.pun...@gmail.com wrote:
 Question paper can be set in braille but i don't think that it is possibal
 to write whole exam in braille. A student appearing in the tenth standard
 exam will have to write 80 90 pages which is a thing next to impossible.
 Braille has some limitations and speed and space are some of them.

 -- original message --
 Subject:  Re: [AI] exams.
 From: Madhu Singhal madhu.singha...@gmail.com
 Date: 09/09/2010 11:06 pm

 Dear Members,
 So many of you have kept the thaught to use the braille in the examination.
 But my concern is if one braille dot will be here and there or missing the
 dot makes lot of complication.
 Knowingly unknowingly it will happen.
 So many of us knows braille very well but still, some time less pressure it
 happened.
 - Original Message -
 From: Vgem Vadagam vgemvada...@yahoo.co.in
 To: rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in
 Cc: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 10:54 PM
 Subject: [AI] exams.


 sir,
 we be proud to use brl. as this the only unique script in the world.
 acg. to their accent it can be read by any vc. no such script is available
 for sighted except devanagari.
 for exams. braillers may be used. computers may be used.
 Webel of kolkatta is supplying useful operators. many softwares are
 coming up for vc. the brl. recognising softwares r also available for
 correction. and even our brl knowing sighted or sightless will evaluate

 the brl. answer papers. and even pictorial brl. question papers can also
 supplied. subject to the commitment of the teachers either sighted or vc.
 I strongly feel sightless must learn Braille like his mothertongue,
 then only we respect the great inventor of the script for vc.

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Re: [AI] Blind concession in AC 2 tier apart from Rajdhani

2010-09-09 Thread Swati Sinha
Hello,
Yes, railway confer concession to persons with disability and one
attendent( can be a family member) travelling with him/her also gets
the benefit. But to avail this reservation, it is necessary to carry a
disability and concession certificate.
Don't have much idea, but I think, if you want to avail the benefits
then you have to book the ticket from the counter as the certificates
are required for proof, and it cannot be booked online. Don't know the
latest rule for booking the ticket, if any.

On 9/10/10, Archana Bhatia archana...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi All,

 Just want to know that is there any concession for the Blind
 in AC 2 tier apart from Rajdhani Train.
 Somebody told me  that  blind are elgible  for railway  concession
 both in AC 2 and AC 3 tier. In AC 2 tier the concession is 50% and in
 AC 3 tier the concession is 75%.
 When I am clicking on the railways website I can locate the concession
 for AC 3 tier and not for AC 2 tier.
 Any help on this would be appreciated.
 Regards
 Archana

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Re: [AI] Blind concession in AC 2 tier apart from Rajdhani

2010-09-09 Thread Bijal Patel

hello,
no any concessionin full a c train like rajdhani, shatabdi,  but you can 
take benefit in other trains, you have to go to book tickets at the special 
counter of handycap with original railway concession  certificate  and its 
photo copy. even during travelling also, it's necessary to keep railway 
concession sertificate and blind sertificate.
- Original Message - 
From: Swati Sinha swatisinh...@gmail.com

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 10:35 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Blind concession in AC 2 tier apart from Rajdhani



Hello,
Yes, railway confer concession to persons with disability and one
attendent( can be a family member) travelling with him/her also gets
the benefit. But to avail this reservation, it is necessary to carry a
disability and concession certificate.
Don't have much idea, but I think, if you want to avail the benefits
then you have to book the ticket from the counter as the certificates
are required for proof, and it cannot be booked online. Don't know the
latest rule for booking the ticket, if any.

On 9/10/10, Archana Bhatia archana...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi All,

Just want to know that is there any concession for the Blind
in AC 2 tier apart from Rajdhani Train.
Somebody told me  that  blind are elgible  for railway  concession
both in AC 2 and AC 3 tier. In AC 2 tier the concession is 50% and in
AC 3 tier the concession is 75%.
When I am clicking on the railways website I can locate the concession
for AC 3 tier and not for AC 2 tier.
Any help on this would be appreciated.
Regards
Archana

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