[AI] FYUP rollback: Why Delhi University rolled back its most ambitious reform so far

2014-06-29 Thread avinash shahi
I hate UGC... Will Equal Opportunity Office in the University will see
change of guard? troubling  days ahead. BIggest losers poor students.
no voice no hearing, so sad.
http://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-others/du-fyup-rollback/99/

After days of uncertainty and protests, Delhi University has scrapped
the FYUP. Shikha Sharma, Aditi Vatsa & Apurva find out how and why the
university rolled back its most ambitious reform so far

The siege of Delhi University has ended. It witnessed  demonstrations
and intrigue that the premier university had not seen since the days
of the anti-Mandal movement. The campaign lasted 10 days and the
four-year undergraduate programme is now history.

On one side, championing reforms, stood Vice-Chancellor Dinesh Singh
and his lieutenants. And on the roads, outside Singh's office and
Faculty of Arts, camped student bodies, teachers and politicians
demanding the older system. The latter were aided by the University
Grants Commission and the tacit backing of a new government at the
Centre. As a former Academic Council (AC) member put it, the only
thing that had changed in the one year since FYUP was implemented was
the Central government. "Only one person has changed during this
entire controversy -- the Minister of Human Resource Development," he
said.

Incidentally, in 2013, FYUP had received complete backing from UGC
Chairperson Ved Prakash, who did a volte-face days after the new
government was sworn in. "The regulatory authority has become
incapable of commanding any respect. The executive head has
systematically destroyed his own institution," said another DU
professor.

The chaos could not have started at a worse time -- on the eve of
admissions. Lakhs of students from across the country flocked to
Delhi, toppers with phenomenal grades looked askance till Friday when
DU and Singh caved in and acceded to the UGC's demands.

As the curtains come down on the first attempt in decades to drag DU --
kicking and screaming -- into the 21st century, The Sunday Express
looks at the abortive FYUP saga and whether it was doomed since its
very inception.

BEGINNING OF END

There were voices of dissent at the very beginning. It was in the AC
meeting on December 24, 2012 that the course was passed by the
statutory body, amid six elected members giving their dissent. If six
teachers raised objections to the passing of the four year course in
the AC, several others staged demonstrations outside the V-C's office
even while the meeting was underway.

The next few months saw protests gathering momentum. Even student
groups, which had not been convinced with the arguments of the
anti-FYUP campaign earlier, jumped in. "Some teachers' and students'
organisations had been protesting against the four year course since
December 2012. Since we had not seen the course structure or content,
we did not join them. It was in May 2013 when we got details of the
courses, days before it was to be discussed in the Academic and
Executive Councils, that we realised its implications," said Sunny
Kumar, All India Students' Association Delhi State Secretary.

The protests fell on deaf ears, as the DU administration retreated
into a shell. It was perhaps here that the beginning of the end took
shape.

"Efforts were made to discuss the FYUP with the DU administration.
Apart from various political groups of teachers and students, a group
of eminent intellectuals also raised concerns about the course with
the university administration," said a  member of the AC who had given
his dissent.

Teachers, mostly from the BJP-backed teachers' group -- National
Democratic Teachers' Front (NDTF), who did not oppose the FYUP in
statutory body meetings -- also joined the protests. Citing reasons
like poor course content, alleged dissatisfaction among students and
teachers, NDTF members maintained that they might not have dissented
when the course was being passed, but they had suggested
modifications. "Even last year, when the programme was being
implemented in haste, we gave suggestions on how the DU should take it
easy, and first have the necessary infrastructure and right number of
teachers in place to start a programme of this capacity. But
everything happened in such a haste that we didn't even have time to
organise ourselves properly to raise our voices," Ajay Bhagi from the
NDTF, and a member of DU's AC, said.

Under the previous Congress government, Union HRD minister Kapil Sibal
had mooted the idea of abandoning the three-year course and move to a
four-year system in line with global standards, particularly the US.

However, the rumblings of change in DU began in 2008 with the
announcement of the semester system under V-C Deepak Pental. It was
also met with dissent and protests. Unlike Singh, sources said, Pental
initially engaged with the opposition. "There were problems with the
semester system, but in the statutory body meetings, the V-C would
listen to what others had to say and tried to bring everyone on
bo

[AI] ICSC class 4 study material

2014-06-29 Thread aditi shah
Hello list,
Does anyone out here have any scanned text books for class 4th ICSC board?
I need them for a VI student of mine.
Do share with me if any accessible material is available, so that her
parents dont have to go through the redundant process of scanning.

-- 
Regards,
Aditi Shah
Software Engineer
Enterprise Data Security
Iraje Software Consultants Pvt. Ltd.



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Re: [AI] ICSC class 4 study material

2014-06-29 Thread Nirmal Verma
Hello aditi

Call zainab from bookshare about this.

Her number is 9650211575

Nirmal
On Jun 29, 2014 12:53 PM, "aditi shah"  wrote:

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> Does anyone out here have any scanned text books for class 4th ICSC board?
> I need them for a VI student of mine.
> Do share with me if any accessible material is available, so that her
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>
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Re: [AI] FYUP rollback: Why Delhi University rolled back its most ambitious reform so far

2014-06-29 Thread Nikhil Jain
There is one name missing in this news report who had played an instrumental 
role in designing FYUP. It is Prof. Vivek Suneja who was the ProVC at that time 
and was removed from his office some where in april 2013 due to some 
differences between him and the VC as per the reports.







On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 12:47:26 +0530  wrote

>I hate UGC... Will Equal Opportunity Office in the University will see



change of guard? troubling days ahead. BIggest losers poor students.



no voice no hearing, so sad.



http://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-others/du-fyup-rollback/99/







After days of uncertainty and protests, Delhi University has scrapped



the FYUP. Shikha Sharma, Aditi Vatsa & Apurva find out how and why the



university rolled back its most ambitious reform so far







The siege of Delhi University has ended. It witnessed demonstrations



and intrigue that the premier university had not seen since the days



of the anti-Mandal movement. The campaign lasted 10 days and the



four-year undergraduate programme is now history.







On one side, championing reforms, stood Vice-Chancellor Dinesh Singh



and his lieutenants. And on the roads, outside Singh's office and



Faculty of Arts, camped student bodies, teachers and politicians



demanding the older system. The latter were aided by the University



Grants Commission and the tacit backing of a new government at the



Centre. As a former Academic Council (AC) member put it, the only



thing that had changed in the one year since FYUP was implemented was



the Central government. "Only one person has changed during this



entire controversy -- the Minister of Human Resource Development," he



said.







Incidentally, in 2013, FYUP had received complete backing from UGC



Chairperson Ved Prakash, who did a volte-face days after the new



government was sworn in. "The regulatory authority has become



incapable of commanding any respect. The executive head has



systematically destroyed his own institution," said another DU



professor.







The chaos could not have started at a worse time -- on the eve of



admissions. Lakhs of students from across the country flocked to



Delhi, toppers with phenomenal grades looked askance till Friday when



DU and Singh caved in and acceded to the UGC's demands.







As the curtains come down on the first attempt in decades to drag DU --



kicking and screaming -- into the 21st century, The Sunday Express



looks at the abortive FYUP saga and whether it was doomed since its



very inception.







BEGINNING OF END







There were voices of dissent at the very beginning. It was in the AC



meeting on December 24, 2012 that the course was passed by the



statutory body, amid six elected members giving their dissent. If six



teachers raised objections to the passing of the four year course in



the AC, several others staged demonstrations outside the V-C's office



even while the meeting was underway.







The next few months saw protests gathering momentum. Even student



groups, which had not been convinced with the arguments of the



anti-FYUP campaign earlier, jumped in. "Some teachers' and students'



organisations had been protesting against the four year course since



December 2012. Since we had not seen the course structure or content,



we did not join them. It was in May 2013 when we got details of the



courses, days before it was to be discussed in the Academic and



Executive Councils, that we realised its implications," said Sunny



Kumar, All India Students' Association Delhi State Secretary.







The protests fell on deaf ears, as the DU administration retreated



into a shell. It was perhaps here that the beginning of the end took



shape.







"Efforts were made to discuss the FYUP with the DU administration.



Apart from various political groups of teachers and students, a group



of eminent intellectuals also raised concerns about the course with



the university administration," said a member of the AC who had given



his dissent.







Teachers, mostly from the BJP-backed teachers' group -- National



Democratic Teachers' Front (NDTF), who did not oppose the FYUP in



statutory body meetings -- also joined the protests. Citing reasons



like poor course content, alleged dissatisfaction among students and



teachers, NDTF members maintained that they might not have dissented



when the course was being passed, but they had suggested



modifications. "Even last year, when the programme was being



implemented in haste, we gave suggestions on how the DU should take it



easy, and first have the necessary infrastructure and right number of



teachers in place to start a programme of this capacity. But



everything happened in such a haste that we didn't even have time to



organise ourselves properly to raise our voices," Ajay Bhagi from the



NDTF, and a member of DU's AC, said.







Under the previous Congress

Re: [AI] Sydney Morning Herald: Thousands to lose Disability Support Pension under changes flagged by government

2014-06-29 Thread Aravind R
what is the condition of our new disability bill, which was trying to
put us much more backwards?

On 6/29/14, avinash shahi  wrote:
> What was seriously feared by disability sector in Australia has now
> been announced by the government there
> At leastin India, we get jobs which surely adds weight to our dignity,
> isn't it?.
> THis is how these developed countries treat disabled? very sad.
> I think we Indians can create new ideology and new paradigms in
> disability studies for developed countries Alas but we don't have
> our own Journals...
> http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/thousands-to-lose-disability-support-pension-under-changes-flagged-by-government-20140629-zspt7.html
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Re: [AI] NVDA keyboard command query

2014-06-29 Thread Aravind R
in nvda also, press normal insert + delete placed at the number pad

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> In JAWS, I would use Insert+Delete to know the line number and the character
> number of the cursor. But I haven't found such a command in NVDA. If there
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Re: [AI] regarding S A P software accessible for us

2014-06-29 Thread Hardik Sinh
Dear Suman,

You mentioned you know insight of SAP accessibility.  This technology is a
key challenge for all of us. Requesting you to prepare documentation and
make it available to the community.  A generic write up will help lot of us
and will be a good resource.

I am sure our fellow access Indians would love to have such guidance from
you.

H. Sinh


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> Hi,
> I am the X SAP employee and I know insight of SAP accessibility. you
> can contact me off thread, I can help you out.
> My contact number: 0 70323-71585
>
> On 6/28/14, mukesh jain  wrote:
> > hello,
> > any specific organization conducting such kind of trainings?
> > thanks,
> >
> >
> > On 6/28/14, Sandeep Gautam  wrote:
> >> Dear,
> >> To improve accessibility in working with SAP, you need to install
> certain
> >> settings in your computer first.
> >>
> >> For all of its required settings, pl contact NAB Technical helpline
> >> 01164556968.
> >>
> >> Sandeep
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> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: Shreyas N Reddy 
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> >> Subject: [AI] regarding S A P software accessible for us
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> >> hi all!
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> >> My friend who is doing her BCOM wanting this as, her college provides
> >> them with extra classes or courses... She is wanting to know this, so
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[AI] Catalogue on assistive products of Karishma Enterprises needed

2014-06-29 Thread Shadab Husain
Friends, I need the latest catalogue of Karishma Enterprises in which all
available assistive products with their costs are listed. If anyone has it,
please pass it on to me. I have already contacted KE.



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Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

2014-06-29 Thread avinash shahi
Dear Pooha

I've got something to say about beauty here. Many of my friends
representing different genders on campus everyday are exposed to
bodily beauty of varying kinds and get enmeshed for hours.  But when
they see me passing by any unknown persons unperturbed, one or the
other often asks me Shahi bhai, how do you perceive beauty since you
don't know how one does look like? 'What about your sixth sense how
does it get activated'? I just cool them by invoking different
interpretations of beauty from blind man's perspective. I enlighten
them by causing surprise to them. You know how? Beauty lies in
cuddling, it is found in one's tongue, it is well-captured from one's
sublime personhood consisting of lows-and highs.  They retort back
'come on gentlemen don't be too philosophical. Then the biggest arm
starts yearning to be deployed, And I cunningly deploy it. Hello!?
Your notion of beauty is racist from its very foundation, its
temporary, lacks conviction, bound to fade one's she/he hits forty
five and so on. And my notion of beauty is matured, duration
guaranteed, it accords full recognition to the other one and simply
more humanistic. Discussion ends there on such high note... I'd be glad
to know how women with blindness perceive beauty in others?


On 6/27/14, pooja  wrote:
> there are two aspects theoretical and practical. in theory, it is supposed
> that we should marry a man/woman not blind/sighted. no one is perfect so yes
> there will be one or another issue which can dissatisfy you. so everyone is
> equal from marriage point of view. but in practical terms, no matter how
> successful you are, blindness is our unique identity as it can be cast or
> religion in the sighted's case. I think in arrange marriages we can't even
> think to marry a sighted of equal status. as far as love marriages are
> concern, the success ratio is declining rapidly in case of both sighted
> partners also. I think feelings doesn't last long in tough ground realities.
> if you can afford the resources to compensate your blindness, then it can
> work. one tough reality is even a successful blind man/woman don't want to
> marry a blind then how can we expect a sighted to do so? in our blind field,
> we know each other so we can adjust bit easily. blind men can't appreciate
> women's beauty, and sighted men can't satisfy with the household work
> easily. I know acceptions are everywhere. usually blind want to Mary a
> sighted because of accessibility problems or say like helper kind of thing.
> but it doesn't come true for long. so don't think of a sighted
> intentionally, if it happens automatically in some cases, then its ok. don't
> apply on you.
> --
> From: "Preeti Monga" 
> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 3:29 PM
> To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and
> issuesconcerningthedisabled.'" 
> Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are
> normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners> One needs to step out of ones
> comfort zone... only then there is a chance
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> frog of the same well for life,  when there is such a big wide world out
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>> why do we want rules for marriages
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>> Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people
>> intrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>>
>> you are absolutely right, exception can not be a rule.
>>
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>> From: ishita kapoor
>> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 2:40 PM
>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerningthe disabled.
>> Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people
>> intrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>>
>> First of all, I am against of playing such a big gamble with my life.
>> I really don't believe that a non disable can willingly marry a disable
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Re: [AI] Sydney Morning Herald: Thousands to lose Disability Support Pension under changes flagged by government

2014-06-29 Thread avinash shahi
Still lying with Standing Committee.

On 6/29/14, Aravind R  wrote:
> what is the condition of our new disability bill, which was trying to
> put us much more backwards?
>
> On 6/29/14, avinash shahi  wrote:
>> What was seriously feared by disability sector in Australia has now
>> been announced by the government there
>> At leastin India, we get jobs which surely adds weight to our dignity,
>> isn't it?.
>> THis is how these developed countries treat disabled? very sad.
>> I think we Indians can create new ideology and new paradigms in
>> disability studies for developed countries Alas but we don't have
>> our own Journals...
>> http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/thousands-to-lose-disability-support-pension-under-changes-flagged-by-government-20140629-zspt7.html
>> --
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[AI] Excel 2013 query

2014-06-29 Thread JYOTHI
Hello Folks,

I am using Excel 2013 along with Window 7.

I am not able to read any data in any of the cell when I press f2 key
(edit mode). Even though there is data in the cell. NVDA  (latest
version 2014.2) announces as blank.

Waiting for your response!!!



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Re: [AI] Guest blog from Shadab Husain

2014-06-29 Thread Shadab Husain
Thanks a million for posting it yourself and appreciating it!

http://www.eyeway.org/?q=why-you-aren%E2%80%99t-living-you-want

Inviting comments both of criticism and admirations. Am at your target:)

http://www.eyeway.org/?q=why-you-aren%E2%80%99t-living-you-want

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The Latest Blogpost from Eyeway is up!
http://www.eyeway.org/?q=why-you-aren%E2%80%99t-living-you-want

 

Yes, it is a neat post from Shadab Husain. Read and enjoy!

 

Regards,

 

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Re: [AI] Doubt on NVDA

2014-06-29 Thread Aravind

hallow access Indians does nvda read's p d f document

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Subject: Re: [AI] Doubt on NVDA

Hi,
To know the short cut keys of nvda, read the file keycommands.html.
This file can be accessed by nvda menu > help menu> nvda command
reference.
In many cases, the shortcut key for desktop and laptop does not differ.
But in some cases they differ. This file gives all commands of
desktop, laptop and touch screen.




On 6/28/14, Riju Saimon  wrote:

Dear All, Thankyou very much.

On 28/06/2014, Ashik  wrote:

Dear Bhavya Shah,

You are right. Actually, in a laptop, the Capslock key works as NVDA key.
Whereas in a desktop, the Insert key works as the NVDA key.
That's the only difference.
Ashik Hirani
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concerningthe disabled." 
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2014 11:59 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Doubt on NVDA



Press NVD + 3 to toggle on and off the speaking of typed words. I am
using the laptop keyboard layout in NVDA 2014.2 so the shortcut for
you might differ.
Alternatively, in the NVDA menu > Preferences submenu > Keyboard
Settings you will find a check box to do the same.

On 6/27/14, Ashik  wrote:

If the Keyboard setting is set to "letters and words".
Ashik Hirani
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Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 8:00 PM
Subject: [AI] Doubt on NVDA



Dear All, Hope you are doing well.  How can we listen the text in the
edit box while typing in it?
Regards, Riju Saimon



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Re: [AI] regarding S A P software accessible for us

2014-06-29 Thread mukesh jain
hello,
any specific NGO taking steps to impart training on sap accessibility?
else any special trainer can come and  design such training in the
premises of any company considering the individual needs on
professional basis?

I would be keen to know on this. someone has suggested nab delhi I
contacted them to know more on this issue and they informed me that as
of now they do not have such plans.

thanks,


On 6/29/14, Hardik Sinh  wrote:
> Dear Suman,
>
> You mentioned you know insight of SAP accessibility.  This technology is a
> key challenge for all of us. Requesting you to prepare documentation and
> make it available to the community.  A generic write up will help lot of us
> and will be a good resource.
>
> I am sure our fellow access Indians would love to have such guidance from
> you.
>
> H. Sinh
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 7:56 PM, Suman Damera  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> I am the X SAP employee and I know insight of SAP accessibility. you
>> can contact me off thread, I can help you out.
>> My contact number: 0 70323-71585
>>
>> On 6/28/14, mukesh jain  wrote:
>> > hello,
>> > any specific organization conducting such kind of trainings?
>> > thanks,
>> >
>> >
>> > On 6/28/14, Sandeep Gautam  wrote:
>> >> Dear,
>> >> To improve accessibility in working with SAP, you need to install
>> certain
>> >> settings in your computer first.
>> >>
>> >> For all of its required settings, pl contact NAB Technical helpline
>> >> 01164556968.
>> >>
>> >> Sandeep
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> - Original Message -
>> >> From: Shreyas N Reddy 
>> >> To: accessindia 
>> >> Sent: Fri, 27 Jun 2014 19:57:40 +0530 (IST)
>> >> Subject: [AI] regarding S A P software accessible for us
>> >>
>> >> hi all!
>> >> as the above line says, is the software S A P accessible for blind
>> >> people? If so, could I please know some details about it?
>> >> My friend who is doing her BCOM wanting this as, her college provides
>> >> them with extra classes or courses... She is wanting to know this, so
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Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

2014-06-29 Thread Shadab Husain
A girl in her teens and 20s has a deep and urgent yearning to be praised.
We're very well overlooking the fact that though we can't see her, we can
listen to her voice, praise her joyful tone, bashfulness, excitement, fear,
frankness, suppressed smiles and several expressions felt by the ears. See
what perfume she wears and never miss to praise it or gift her the perfume
or creams or shampoo you like. Feel her (you know?) the sense of touch and
shower praises on her. They're damn flattered if someone praises their hair.
How well she cooks, walks (many can make out the way of walking by
footsteps: are they light? Heavy? Rapid? Slow?) We can be great admirers of
women and can easily flatter them. bring them flowers, chocolates or
whatever they're excited about. But never feel that you're substituting for
your eyes. Just love your wife and enjoy and overlook her small mistakes and
forgive big ones but don't do it because of helplessness.

A gent knows how to make his woman happy!



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Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

Dear Pooha

I've got something to say about beauty here. Many of my friends representing
different genders on campus everyday are exposed to bodily beauty of varying
kinds and get enmeshed for hours.  But when they see me passing by any
unknown persons unperturbed, one or the other often asks me Shahi bhai, how
do you perceive beauty since you don't know how one does look like? 'What
about your sixth sense how does it get activated'? I just cool them by
invoking different interpretations of beauty from blind man's perspective. I
enlighten them by causing surprise to them. You know how? Beauty lies in
cuddling, it is found in one's tongue, it is well-captured from one's
sublime personhood consisting of lows-and highs.  They retort back 'come on
gentlemen don't be too philosophical. Then the biggest arm starts yearning
to be deployed, And I cunningly deploy it. Hello!?
Your notion of beauty is racist from its very foundation, its temporary,
lacks conviction, bound to fade one's she/he hits forty five and so on. And
my notion of beauty is matured, duration guaranteed, it accords full
recognition to the other one and simply more humanistic. Discussion ends
there on such high note... I'd be glad to know how women with blindness
perceive beauty in others?


On 6/27/14, pooja  wrote:
> there are two aspects theoretical and practical. in theory, it is 
> supposed that we should marry a man/woman not blind/sighted. no one is 
> perfect so yes there will be one or another issue which can dissatisfy 
> you. so everyone is equal from marriage point of view. but in 
> practical terms, no matter how successful you are, blindness is our 
> unique identity as it can be cast or religion in the sighted's case. I 
> think in arrange marriages we can't even think to marry a sighted of 
> equal status. as far as love marriages are concern, the success ratio 
> is declining rapidly in case of both sighted partners also. I think
feelings doesn't last long in tough ground realities.
> if you can afford the resources to compensate your blindness, then it 
> can work. one tough reality is even a successful blind man/woman don't 
> want to marry a blind then how can we expect a sighted to do so? in 
> our blind field, we know each other so we can adjust bit easily. blind 
> men can't appreciate women's beauty, and sighted men can't satisfy 
> with the household work easily. I know acceptions are everywhere. 
> usually blind want to Mary a sighted because of accessibility problems or
say like helper kind of thing.
> but it doesn't come true for long. so don't think of a sighted 
> intentionally, if it happens automatically in some cases, then its ok. 
> don't apply on you.
> --
> From: "Preeti Monga" 
> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 3:29 PM
> To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and 
> issuesconcerningthedisabled.'" 
> Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are
> normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners> One needs to step out of 
> normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners> ones
> comfort zone... only then there is a chance of actually living life to 
> its fullest! It is not the best idea to remain a frog of the same well 
> for life,  when there is such a big wide world out here! Every 
> experience, good
>> or bad, only enriches your life quality!
>> It also gives you a  chance to  explore and to grow and  evolve! I 
>> wonder why do we want rules for marriages
>>
>> Preeti Monga
>> Director
>>
>>
>>
>> Mobile: +91 9871701646
>> Landline: 011 22781446
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>> Services: Execu

Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in marrying blind partners

2014-06-29 Thread nithin v
 Dear Pooha,

Well said.


On 6/26/14, Deepika N  wrote:
> Well said.
> I agree 100%
> Regards,
> Deepika N
>
>
> On 6/26/14, Preeti Monga  wrote:
>> You are  quite right dear! Only party and fun is not everything. Just be
>> yourself and you will find others like yourself too if only you look. I
>> think if you have something to give to the world, there is a lot of people
>> who want you, weather you are blind or sighted does not matter. What
>> matters
>> is what you have to share and to give. The trouble with blind people is
>> that
>> they only are in the habit of taking and getting!  Be a contributer and
>> you
>> will find your rightful place in the world! And the biggest problem with
>> humans is"what will others say or think about me"! This is not only
>> with
>> blind, sighted also have the same problem! Just do the right things, be a
>> giver and contributer in your own area and field and care about others
>> needs! You will always be needed by all... blind or sighted does not then
>> matter!
>> Where do you live?
>> Preeti
>>
>> Preeti Monga
>> Director
>>
>>
>>
>> Mobile: +91 9871701646
>> Landline: 011 22781446
>> E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
>> Website: www.silver-linings.co.in  ;  www.silver-linings.org
>> Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training
>> –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting –
>> Corporate
>> ; Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying
>> workshops  and counseling. Printing Solutions,  Incentive Travel and
>> Marketing Data Mining / Refining..
>>
>> We  assure  high quality service marked with excellence and complete
>> customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Ravindra Jadhav
>> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 11:42 AM
>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
>> the disabled.
>> Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in marrying
>> blind partners
>>
>> Yes mam I agreed it.
>> But sometimes compatibility is not only depend on your education, but
>> also depend on your talkative nature.
>> I observed most of the visually impaired persons won't be mix up in
>> there coledge, relative and there surrounding society.
>> They don't like fun, entertainment, parties etc etc. They them self
>> keep away from these activities. Due to his or her blindness.
>> One seminar i attended in amedabad BpA school, the main topic was
>> personality development. That time Jorj sir was also their. In three
>> days I learnt lot of thing from jorj sir and Panchal sir. Now I am not
>> afraid to anybody what they thing about me or what they comment on my
>> rply. So come ahead and establish a good rapoe with others mostly with
>> sighted. Just put the shugar on your tongue, means talk sweet and
>> polite. Am i right mam?
>> I thing blind and sighted both are same now a days. only one need is
>> that don't see differently to each others. Then everything will be
>> allright.
>>
>> On 6/26/14, Preeti Monga  wrote:
>>> I think the question is not sighted want to marry blind or not, it is all
>>> about compatibility and what who is looking for  in his/her partner!
>>> The trick is that one should marry the person with whom you would want to
>>> have a life long friendship! Values, thoughts and giving is most
>> important.
>>> Preeti
>>>
>>> Preeti Monga
>>> Director
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mobile: +91 9871701646
>>> Landline: 011 22781446
>>> E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
>>> Website: www.silver-linings.co.in  ;  www.silver-linings.org
>>> Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training
>>> -Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting -
>> Corporate
>>> ; Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying
>>> workshops  and counseling. Printing Solutions,  Incentive Travel and
>>> Marketing Data Mining / Refining..
>>>
>>> We  assure  high quality service marked with excellence and complete
>>> customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>> Behalf
>>> Of Ravindra Jadhav
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 6:34 AM
>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerning
>>> the disabled.
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in marrying
>>> blind partners
>>>
>>> dear, write your dout clearly. do not type the words in short. Then
>>> everybody should understood your problems. Mostly mobile user like me.
>>> Now coming to your dout.
>>> Sighted also like to mary with visually impaired persons. For example,
>>> I maried with sighted lady and i am very happy. I had only one son
>>> study in grade I. In St. Xaviers school.
>>>
>>> On 6/25/14, suhas J  wrote:
 hi my name is suhas namboo

Re: [AI] Doubt on NVDA

2014-06-29 Thread Him Prasad Gautam
Hi,
Definitely nvda is capable to access pdf format documents.
However, the text of the used language must be supported by the active TTS.
Similarly if the text belongs to an Indian regional languages written
in traditional ANSI encoding (i.e. non-unicode); then it is
inaccessible. This inaccessibility is not from nvda but from the
synthesizer in use.
For English or Unicode encoding text of Indian origin, there is no problem.

 like Bengali or Panjabi

On 6/29/14, Aravind  wrote:
> hallow access Indians does nvda read's p d f document
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Him Prasad Gautam
> Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 10:27 AM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
> concerningthe disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] Doubt on NVDA
>
> Hi,
> To know the short cut keys of nvda, read the file keycommands.html.
> This file can be accessed by nvda menu > help menu> nvda command
> reference.
> In many cases, the shortcut key for desktop and laptop does not differ.
> But in some cases they differ. This file gives all commands of
> desktop, laptop and touch screen.
>
>
>
>
> On 6/28/14, Riju Saimon  wrote:
>> Dear All, Thankyou very much.
>>
>> On 28/06/2014, Ashik  wrote:
>>> Dear Bhavya Shah,
>>>
>>> You are right. Actually, in a laptop, the Capslock key works as NVDA
>>> key.
>>> Whereas in a desktop, the Insert key works as the NVDA key.
>>> That's the only difference.
>>> Ashik Hirani
>>> 09428855867
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Bhavya shah" 
>>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerningthe disabled." 
>>> Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2014 11:59 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Doubt on NVDA
>>>
>>>
 Press NVD + 3 to toggle on and off the speaking of typed words. I am
 using the laptop keyboard layout in NVDA 2014.2 so the shortcut for
 you might differ.
 Alternatively, in the NVDA menu > Preferences submenu > Keyboard
 Settings you will find a check box to do the same.

 On 6/27/14, Ashik  wrote:
> If the Keyboard setting is set to "letters and words".
> Ashik Hirani
> 09428855867
> - Original Message -
> From: "Riju Saimon" 
> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
> concerningthe disabled." 
> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 8:00 PM
> Subject: [AI] Doubt on NVDA
>
>
>> Dear All, Hope you are doing well.  How can we listen the text in the
>> edit box while typing in it?
>> Regards, Riju Saimon
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [AI] Excel 2013 query

2014-06-29 Thread Him Prasad Gautam
Hi,
nvda is not perfect for excel 2013. Despite f2 you may be encounter
other issues too.
Development on improvement is on progress.
However, for the formula bar selection (i.e. f2) nvda is incapable to
capture the text even for older excels than 2013.


On 6/29/14, JYOTHI  wrote:
> Hello Folks,
>
> I am using Excel 2013 along with Window 7.
>
> I am not able to read any data in any of the cell when I press f2 key
> (edit mode). Even though there is data in the cell. NVDA  (latest
> version 2014.2) announces as blank.
>
> Waiting for your response!!!
>
>
>
> --
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Re: [AI] FYUP rollback: Why Delhi University rolled back its most ambitious reform so far

2014-06-29 Thread Avichal Bhatnagar
Its indeed true that the fc's were absolutely useless and even worse
for a visually impaired due to lack of proper facilities.

On 6/29/14, Nikhil  Jain  wrote:
> There is one name missing in this news report who had played an instrumental
> role in designing FYUP. It is Prof. Vivek Suneja who was the ProVC at that
> time and was removed from his office some where in april 2013 due to some
> differences between him and the VC as per the reports.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 12:47:26 +0530  wrote
>
>>I hate UGC... Will Equal Opportunity Office in the University will see
>
>
>
> change of guard? troubling days ahead. BIggest losers poor students.
>
>
>
> no voice no hearing, so sad.
>
>
>
> http://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-others/du-fyup-rollback/99/
>
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>
>
>
>
>
> After days of uncertainty and protests, Delhi University has scrapped
>
>
>
> the FYUP. Shikha Sharma, Aditi Vatsa & Apurva find out how and why the
>
>
>
> university rolled back its most ambitious reform so far
>
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>
>
>
>
> The siege of Delhi University has ended. It witnessed demonstrations
>
>
>
> and intrigue that the premier university had not seen since the days
>
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>
> of the anti-Mandal movement. The campaign lasted 10 days and the
>
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>
> four-year undergraduate programme is now history.
>
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> On one side, championing reforms, stood Vice-Chancellor Dinesh Singh
>
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> and his lieutenants. And on the roads, outside Singh's office and
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> Faculty of Arts, camped student bodies, teachers and politicians
>
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> demanding the older system. The latter were aided by the University
>
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>
> Grants Commission and the tacit backing of a new government at the
>
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>
> Centre. As a former Academic Council (AC) member put it, the only
>
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> thing that had changed in the one year since FYUP was implemented was
>
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> the Central government. "Only one person has changed during this
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> entire controversy -- the Minister of Human Resource Development," he
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> said.
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> Incidentally, in 2013, FYUP had received complete backing from UGC
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> Chairperson Ved Prakash, who did a volte-face days after the new
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> government was sworn in. "The regulatory authority has become
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> incapable of commanding any respect. The executive head has
>
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> systematically destroyed his own institution," said another DU
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> The chaos could not have started at a worse time -- on the eve of
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> As the curtains come down on the first attempt in decades to drag DU --
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Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

2014-06-29 Thread bhawani shankar verma
it is an imagination not reality. eye contact plays a big role on one's life 
if a person is sighted. sighted persons get 70 to 80% knowledge and 
experience of their surroundings through their eyes and in the context of 
blind person the case is totally different. even a person is partially 
blind, he always depend on his/her eyes. Can a blind person appreciate their 
colleagues in the office that aaj to aap bahut achhe lag rahe hain? If 
anybody claims it, i can challenge him. i don't believe on idealism, hence, 
my comment may not be feel comfortable to my ideal friends. a blind person 
himself make him handsome or beautiful but, can not judge other's 
beauteousness.


- Original Message - 
From: "Shadab Husain" 
To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled.'" 

Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople 
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners




A girl in her teens and 20s has a deep and urgent yearning to be praised.
We're very well overlooking the fact that though we can't see her, we can
listen to her voice, praise her joyful tone, bashfulness, excitement, 
fear,

frankness, suppressed smiles and several expressions felt by the ears. See
what perfume she wears and never miss to praise it or gift her the perfume
or creams or shampoo you like. Feel her (you know?) the sense of touch and
shower praises on her. They're damn flattered if someone praises their 
hair.

How well she cooks, walks (many can make out the way of walking by
footsteps: are they light? Heavy? Rapid? Slow?) We can be great admirers 
of

women and can easily flatter them. bring them flowers, chocolates or
whatever they're excited about. But never feel that you're substituting 
for
your eyes. Just love your wife and enjoy and overlook her small mistakes 
and

forgive big ones but don't do it because of helplessness.

A gent knows how to make his woman happy!



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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf

Of avinash shahi
Sent: 29 June 2014 14:04
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

Dear Pooha

I've got something to say about beauty here. Many of my friends 
representing
different genders on campus everyday are exposed to bodily beauty of 
varying

kinds and get enmeshed for hours.  But when they see me passing by any
unknown persons unperturbed, one or the other often asks me Shahi bhai, 
how

do you perceive beauty since you don't know how one does look like? 'What
about your sixth sense how does it get activated'? I just cool them by
invoking different interpretations of beauty from blind man's perspective. 
I

enlighten them by causing surprise to them. You know how? Beauty lies in
cuddling, it is found in one's tongue, it is well-captured from one's
sublime personhood consisting of lows-and highs.  They retort back 'come 
on

gentlemen don't be too philosophical. Then the biggest arm starts yearning
to be deployed, And I cunningly deploy it. Hello!?
Your notion of beauty is racist from its very foundation, its temporary,
lacks conviction, bound to fade one's she/he hits forty five and so on. 
And

my notion of beauty is matured, duration guaranteed, it accords full
recognition to the other one and simply more humanistic. Discussion ends
there on such high note... I'd be glad to know how women with blindness
perceive beauty in others?


On 6/27/14, pooja  wrote:

there are two aspects theoretical and practical. in theory, it is
supposed that we should marry a man/woman not blind/sighted. no one is
perfect so yes there will be one or another issue which can dissatisfy
you. so everyone is equal from marriage point of view. but in
practical terms, no matter how successful you are, blindness is our
unique identity as it can be cast or religion in the sighted's case. I
think in arrange marriages we can't even think to marry a sighted of
equal status. as far as love marriages are concern, the success ratio
is declining rapidly in case of both sighted partners also. I think

feelings doesn't last long in tough ground realities.

if you can afford the resources to compensate your blindness, then it
can work. one tough reality is even a successful blind man/woman don't
want to marry a blind then how can we expect a sighted to do so? in
our blind field, we know each other so we can adjust bit easily. blind
men can't appreciate women's beauty, and sighted men can't satisfy
with the household work easily. I know acceptions are everywhere.
usually blind want to Mary a sighted because of accessibility problems or

say like helper kind of thing.

but it doesn't come true for long. so don't think of a sighted
intentionally, if it happens automatically in some cases, then its ok.
don't apply on you.
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Re: [AI] Apple mack book

2014-06-29 Thread Pranav Lal
Preeti,

http://www.applevis.com is one place to go. The key combination command+f5
starts voice over.

Pranav

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Sunil Sangtani.
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 1:46 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Apple mack book

hi, though i've havent  used the mac book ever,  but since am also
planning to get one for me,  i've managed to gather  some info, and so
far, what  so ever information i got, the mac book is very good in
term of accessibility. will getting the same in next 1 or 2 days, then
will share my experience.

On 6/28/14, preeti gacche  wrote:
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> I want to know about the accessibility of apple mackk book
> Thanks
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Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

2014-06-29 Thread George Abraham
Appreciation need not necessarily have to be restricted to physicalities.
If we can verbalise the good we see in others, that would go a long way in
relationship. Besides physical appearances are important but there are
several more deeper layers/dimensions to human beings. If we are interested
and concerned in the lives of the people we engage with and are willing to
help, support and cooperate, a number of people will be attracted. Good
looks is only the beginning of being  attraction and if we do not have the
inner beauty to go with it, then we are gone.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of bhawani shankar verma
Sent: 29 June 2014 17:53
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

it is an imagination not reality. eye contact plays a big role on one's
life 
if a person is sighted. sighted persons get 70 to 80% knowledge and 
experience of their surroundings through their eyes and in the context of 
blind person the case is totally different. even a person is partially 
blind, he always depend on his/her eyes. Can a blind person appreciate
their 
colleagues in the office that aaj to aap bahut achhe lag rahe hain? If 
anybody claims it, i can challenge him. i don't believe on idealism, hence,

my comment may not be feel comfortable to my ideal friends. a blind person 
himself make him handsome or beautiful but, can not judge other's 
beauteousness.

- Original Message - 
From: "Shadab Husain" 
To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled.'" 
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople 
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners


>A girl in her teens and 20s has a deep and urgent yearning to be praised.
> We're very well overlooking the fact that though we can't see her, we can
> listen to her voice, praise her joyful tone, bashfulness, excitement, 
> fear,
> frankness, suppressed smiles and several expressions felt by the ears.
See
> what perfume she wears and never miss to praise it or gift her the
perfume
> or creams or shampoo you like. Feel her (you know?) the sense of touch
and
> shower praises on her. They're damn flattered if someone praises their 
> hair.
> How well she cooks, walks (many can make out the way of walking by
> footsteps: are they light? Heavy? Rapid? Slow?) We can be great admirers 
> of
> women and can easily flatter them. bring them flowers, chocolates or
> whatever they're excited about. But never feel that you're substituting 
> for
> your eyes. Just love your wife and enjoy and overlook her small mistakes 
> and
> forgive big ones but don't do it because of helplessness.
>
> A gent knows how to make his woman happy!
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
> Behalf
> Of avinash shahi
> Sent: 29 June 2014 14:04
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople
> intrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>
> Dear Pooha
>
> I've got something to say about beauty here. Many of my friends 
> representing
> different genders on campus everyday are exposed to bodily beauty of 
> varying
> kinds and get enmeshed for hours.  But when they see me passing by any
> unknown persons unperturbed, one or the other often asks me Shahi bhai, 
> how
> do you perceive beauty since you don't know how one does look like? 'What
> about your sixth sense how does it get activated'? I just cool them by
> invoking different interpretations of beauty from blind man's
perspective. 
> I
> enlighten them by causing surprise to them. You know how? Beauty lies in
> cuddling, it is found in one's tongue, it is well-captured from one's
> sublime personhood consisting of lows-and highs.  They retort back 'come 
> on
> gentlemen don't be too philosophical. Then the biggest arm starts
yearning
> to be deployed, And I cunningly deploy it. Hello!?
> Your notion of beauty is racist from its very foundation, its temporary,
> lacks conviction, bound to fade one's she/he hits forty five and so on. 
> And
> my notion of beauty is matured, duration guaranteed, it accords full
> recognition to the other one and simply more humanistic. Discussion ends
> there on such high note... I'd be glad to know how women with blindness
> perceive beauty in others?
>
>
> On 6/27/14, pooja  wrote:
>> there are two aspects theoretical and practical. in theory, it is
>> supposed that we should marry a man/woman not blind/sighted. no one is
>> perfect so yes there will be one or another issue which can dissatisfy
>> you. so everyone is equal from marriage point of view. but in
>> practical terms, no matter how successful you are, blindness is our
>> unique identity as it can be cast or religion in the sighted's case

Re: [AI] my quriyocityarenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

2014-06-29 Thread payal
This is so true. all the initial eye contacts to establish acknowledgements
are absent when seeing is eliminated from the equation. As much as we would
like to theorize and practice other alternatives, this has to be taken into
count.  
Many subtle nuances are responsible for so many occasions in life. Whether
it is glancing over to look at a good looking guy and letting him know you
are interested, or vice versa to high powered negotiations at the corporate
table, eye contact can play a critical role.
I don't say we can't manage without it, we are all living with it and all
the other points mentioned by Avinash and Shadab hold good, but Bhawani's
point cannot be brushed aside. We all like to think of ourselves as persons
who have moved far beyond our disability and into a zone of having learned
to live effectively with it. However, it is not enough to say it doesn't
matter, because it does. 

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of bhawani shankar verma
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 5:53 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
thedisabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocityarenormelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

it is an imagination not reality. eye contact plays a big role on one's life

if a person is sighted. sighted persons get 70 to 80% knowledge and 
experience of their surroundings through their eyes and in the context of 
blind person the case is totally different. even a person is partially 
blind, he always depend on his/her eyes. Can a blind person appreciate their

colleagues in the office that aaj to aap bahut achhe lag rahe hain? If 
anybody claims it, i can challenge him. i don't believe on idealism, hence, 
my comment may not be feel comfortable to my ideal friends. a blind person 
himself make him handsome or beautiful but, can not judge other's 
beauteousness.

- Original Message - 
From: "Shadab Husain" 
To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled.'" 
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople 
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners


>A girl in her teens and 20s has a deep and urgent yearning to be praised.
> We're very well overlooking the fact that though we can't see her, we can
> listen to her voice, praise her joyful tone, bashfulness, excitement, 
> fear,
> frankness, suppressed smiles and several expressions felt by the ears. See
> what perfume she wears and never miss to praise it or gift her the perfume
> or creams or shampoo you like. Feel her (you know?) the sense of touch and
> shower praises on her. They're damn flattered if someone praises their 
> hair.
> How well she cooks, walks (many can make out the way of walking by
> footsteps: are they light? Heavy? Rapid? Slow?) We can be great admirers 
> of
> women and can easily flatter them. bring them flowers, chocolates or
> whatever they're excited about. But never feel that you're substituting 
> for
> your eyes. Just love your wife and enjoy and overlook her small mistakes 
> and
> forgive big ones but don't do it because of helplessness.
>
> A gent knows how to make his woman happy!
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
> Behalf
> Of avinash shahi
> Sent: 29 June 2014 14:04
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople
> intrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>
> Dear Pooha
>
> I've got something to say about beauty here. Many of my friends 
> representing
> different genders on campus everyday are exposed to bodily beauty of 
> varying
> kinds and get enmeshed for hours.  But when they see me passing by any
> unknown persons unperturbed, one or the other often asks me Shahi bhai, 
> how
> do you perceive beauty since you don't know how one does look like? 'What
> about your sixth sense how does it get activated'? I just cool them by
> invoking different interpretations of beauty from blind man's perspective.

> I
> enlighten them by causing surprise to them. You know how? Beauty lies in
> cuddling, it is found in one's tongue, it is well-captured from one's
> sublime personhood consisting of lows-and highs.  They retort back 'come 
> on
> gentlemen don't be too philosophical. Then the biggest arm starts yearning
> to be deployed, And I cunningly deploy it. Hello!?
> Your notion of beauty is racist from its very foundation, its temporary,
> lacks conviction, bound to fade one's she/he hits forty five and so on. 
> And
> my notion of beauty is matured, duration guaranteed, it accords full
> recognition to the other one and simply more humanistic. Discussion ends
> there on such high note... I'd be glad to know how women with blindness
> perceive beauty in others?
>
>
> On 6/27/14, pooja  wrote:
>> there are two aspects theoretical and practical. in theory, it is
>> supp

Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

2014-06-29 Thread payal
George what you say is absolutely true. the point here being getting past
that first introduction. All else comes later. To be able to reach somebody
sighted this plays a key role. There is nothing stopping us from interacting
and establishing lasting relationships within the community, but looking
outside is a different story.
There are sighted people who are fazed with the overt attention a blind
person pays when interacgting with a sighted person for the first time. It
is that first time we are talking of here. 

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of George Abraham
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 6:27 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

Appreciation need not necessarily have to be restricted to physicalities.
If we can verbalise the good we see in others, that would go a long way in
relationship. Besides physical appearances are important but there are
several more deeper layers/dimensions to human beings. If we are interested
and concerned in the lives of the people we engage with and are willing to
help, support and cooperate, a number of people will be attracted. Good
looks is only the beginning of being  attraction and if we do not have the
inner beauty to go with it, then we are gone.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of bhawani shankar verma
Sent: 29 June 2014 17:53
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

it is an imagination not reality. eye contact plays a big role on one's
life 
if a person is sighted. sighted persons get 70 to 80% knowledge and 
experience of their surroundings through their eyes and in the context of 
blind person the case is totally different. even a person is partially 
blind, he always depend on his/her eyes. Can a blind person appreciate
their 
colleagues in the office that aaj to aap bahut achhe lag rahe hain? If 
anybody claims it, i can challenge him. i don't believe on idealism, hence,

my comment may not be feel comfortable to my ideal friends. a blind person 
himself make him handsome or beautiful but, can not judge other's 
beauteousness.

- Original Message - 
From: "Shadab Husain" 
To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled.'" 
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople 
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners


>A girl in her teens and 20s has a deep and urgent yearning to be praised.
> We're very well overlooking the fact that though we can't see her, we can
> listen to her voice, praise her joyful tone, bashfulness, excitement, 
> fear,
> frankness, suppressed smiles and several expressions felt by the ears.
See
> what perfume she wears and never miss to praise it or gift her the
perfume
> or creams or shampoo you like. Feel her (you know?) the sense of touch
and
> shower praises on her. They're damn flattered if someone praises their 
> hair.
> How well she cooks, walks (many can make out the way of walking by
> footsteps: are they light? Heavy? Rapid? Slow?) We can be great admirers 
> of
> women and can easily flatter them. bring them flowers, chocolates or
> whatever they're excited about. But never feel that you're substituting 
> for
> your eyes. Just love your wife and enjoy and overlook her small mistakes 
> and
> forgive big ones but don't do it because of helplessness.
>
> A gent knows how to make his woman happy!
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
> Behalf
> Of avinash shahi
> Sent: 29 June 2014 14:04
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople
> intrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>
> Dear Pooha
>
> I've got something to say about beauty here. Many of my friends 
> representing
> different genders on campus everyday are exposed to bodily beauty of 
> varying
> kinds and get enmeshed for hours.  But when they see me passing by any
> unknown persons unperturbed, one or the other often asks me Shahi bhai, 
> how
> do you perceive beauty since you don't know how one does look like? 'What
> about your sixth sense how does it get activated'? I just cool them by
> invoking different interpretations of beauty from blind man's
perspective. 
> I
> enlighten them by causing surprise to them. You know how? Beauty lies in
> cuddling, it is found in one's tongue, it is well-captured from one's
> sublime personhood consisting of lows-and highs.  They retort back 'come 
> on
> gentlemen don't be too philosophical. Then the biggest arm starts
yearning
> to be deployed, And I cunningly deploy it. Hello!?
> Your not

Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

2014-06-29 Thread George Abraham
1. Physical attributes are like the opening batsmen. They take care of the
shine. Some times they give you a good start.
2. But then the relationships are built on multiple factors. Common
interests, love, care/share, give and take, contribution/participation.
Physicality plays a very insignificant part. 
3. Further to sustain a relationship, we also must grow as a person and
allow our partner also to grow so that our friendship evolves and
solidifies. We also need take on responsibility and play our role in the
family  

Well I have tried to capture some factors, there could be more.

George
 

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of bhawani shankar verma
Sent: 29 June 2014 17:53
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

it is an imagination not reality. eye contact plays a big role on one's
life 
if a person is sighted. sighted persons get 70 to 80% knowledge and 
experience of their surroundings through their eyes and in the context of 
blind person the case is totally different. even a person is partially 
blind, he always depend on his/her eyes. Can a blind person appreciate
their 
colleagues in the office that aaj to aap bahut achhe lag rahe hain? If 
anybody claims it, i can challenge him. i don't believe on idealism, hence,

my comment may not be feel comfortable to my ideal friends. a blind person 
himself make him handsome or beautiful but, can not judge other's 
beauteousness.

- Original Message - 
From: "Shadab Husain" 
To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled.'" 
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople 
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners


>A girl in her teens and 20s has a deep and urgent yearning to be praised.
> We're very well overlooking the fact that though we can't see her, we can
> listen to her voice, praise her joyful tone, bashfulness, excitement, 
> fear,
> frankness, suppressed smiles and several expressions felt by the ears.
See
> what perfume she wears and never miss to praise it or gift her the
perfume
> or creams or shampoo you like. Feel her (you know?) the sense of touch
and
> shower praises on her. They're damn flattered if someone praises their 
> hair.
> How well she cooks, walks (many can make out the way of walking by
> footsteps: are they light? Heavy? Rapid? Slow?) We can be great admirers 
> of
> women and can easily flatter them. bring them flowers, chocolates or
> whatever they're excited about. But never feel that you're substituting 
> for
> your eyes. Just love your wife and enjoy and overlook her small mistakes 
> and
> forgive big ones but don't do it because of helplessness.
>
> A gent knows how to make his woman happy!
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
> Behalf
> Of avinash shahi
> Sent: 29 June 2014 14:04
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople
> intrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>
> Dear Pooha
>
> I've got something to say about beauty here. Many of my friends 
> representing
> different genders on campus everyday are exposed to bodily beauty of 
> varying
> kinds and get enmeshed for hours.  But when they see me passing by any
> unknown persons unperturbed, one or the other often asks me Shahi bhai, 
> how
> do you perceive beauty since you don't know how one does look like? 'What
> about your sixth sense how does it get activated'? I just cool them by
> invoking different interpretations of beauty from blind man's
perspective. 
> I
> enlighten them by causing surprise to them. You know how? Beauty lies in
> cuddling, it is found in one's tongue, it is well-captured from one's
> sublime personhood consisting of lows-and highs.  They retort back 'come 
> on
> gentlemen don't be too philosophical. Then the biggest arm starts
yearning
> to be deployed, And I cunningly deploy it. Hello!?
> Your notion of beauty is racist from its very foundation, its temporary,
> lacks conviction, bound to fade one's she/he hits forty five and so on. 
> And
> my notion of beauty is matured, duration guaranteed, it accords full
> recognition to the other one and simply more humanistic. Discussion ends
> there on such high note... I'd be glad to know how women with blindness
> perceive beauty in others?
>
>
> On 6/27/14, pooja  wrote:
>> there are two aspects theoretical and practical. in theory, it is
>> supposed that we should marry a man/woman not blind/sighted. no one is
>> perfect so yes there will be one or another issue which can dissatisfy
>> you. so everyone is equal from marriage point of view. but in
>> practical terms, no matter how successful you are, blindness is our
>> unique identity as it can be cast

Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

2014-06-29 Thread pooja
respected sir, I am fully agree that Appreciation need not necessarily have 
to be restricted to physicality's.
still believe that it is an important aspect. as we know, first impression 
is very important if not the last. I just want to convey that it is more 
challenging to mary a sighted. there are generally different kind of 
expectations before marriage and after marriage. after a long period of 
time, when honeymoon time gets over when you come in real world and live 
in practicalities then the real time comes to judge the person.

--
From: "George Abraham" 
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 6:26 PM
To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and 
issuesconcerningthedisabled.'" 
Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity  
arenormelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners> Appreciation need not 
necessarily have to be restricted to physicalities.

If we can verbalise the good we see in others, that would go a long way in
relationship. Besides physical appearances are important but there are
several more deeper layers/dimensions to human beings. If we are 
interested

and concerned in the lives of the people we engage with and are willing to
help, support and cooperate, a number of people will be attracted. Good
looks is only the beginning of being  attraction and if we do not have the
inner beauty to go with it, then we are gone.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf

Of bhawani shankar verma
Sent: 29 June 2014 17:53
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

it is an imagination not reality. eye contact plays a big role on one's
life
if a person is sighted. sighted persons get 70 to 80% knowledge and
experience of their surroundings through their eyes and in the context of
blind person the case is totally different. even a person is partially
blind, he always depend on his/her eyes. Can a blind person appreciate
their
colleagues in the office that aaj to aap bahut achhe lag rahe hain? If
anybody claims it, i can challenge him. i don't believe on idealism, 
hence,


my comment may not be feel comfortable to my ideal friends. a blind person
himself make him handsome or beautiful but, can not judge other's
beauteousness.

- Original Message - 
From: "Shadab Husain" 

To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled.'" 
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners



A girl in her teens and 20s has a deep and urgent yearning to be praised.
We're very well overlooking the fact that though we can't see her, we can
listen to her voice, praise her joyful tone, bashfulness, excitement,
fear,
frankness, suppressed smiles and several expressions felt by the ears.

See

what perfume she wears and never miss to praise it or gift her the

perfume

or creams or shampoo you like. Feel her (you know?) the sense of touch

and

shower praises on her. They're damn flattered if someone praises their
hair.
How well she cooks, walks (many can make out the way of walking by
footsteps: are they light? Heavy? Rapid? Slow?) We can be great admirers
of
women and can easily flatter them. bring them flowers, chocolates or
whatever they're excited about. But never feel that you're substituting
for
your eyes. Just love your wife and enjoy and overlook her small mistakes
and
forgive big ones but don't do it because of helplessness.

A gent knows how to make his woman happy!



-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf
Of avinash shahi
Sent: 29 June 2014 14:04
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues

concerning

the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

Dear Pooha

I've got something to say about beauty here. Many of my friends
representing
different genders on campus everyday are exposed to bodily beauty of
varying
kinds and get enmeshed for hours.  But when they see me passing by any
unknown persons unperturbed, one or the other often asks me Shahi bhai,
how
do you perceive beauty since you don't know how one does look like? 'What
about your sixth sense how does it get activated'? I just cool them by
invoking different interpretations of beauty from blind man's

perspective.

I
enlighten them by causing surprise to them. You know how? Beauty lies in
cuddling, it is found in one's tongue, it is well-captured from one's
sublime personhood consisting of lows-and highs.  They retort back 'come
on
gentlemen don't be too philosophical. Then the biggest arm starts

yearning

to be deployed, And I cunningly deploy it. Hello!?
Your notion of beauty is racist from its very foundation, its temporary,
lacks conviction, bound to fade one's she/he hits fort

Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

2014-06-29 Thread George Abraham
Well, there is nothing we can do about our inability to see, but we can
definitely do a lot to develop our personality. Charm includes physical
looks, our knowledge, communication skill, sense of humour and our ability
to take responsibility and contribute. Sustaining a relationship is most
certainly challenging and I believe the way forward is to find our own ways
of overcoming the challenges.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of pooja
Sent: 29 June 2014 18:57
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

respected sir, I am fully agree that Appreciation need not necessarily have

to be restricted to physicality's.
still believe that it is an important aspect. as we know, first impression 
is very important if not the last. I just want to convey that it is more 
challenging to mary a sighted. there are generally different kind of 
expectations before marriage and after marriage. after a long period of 
time, when honeymoon time gets over when you come in real world and
live 
in practicalities then the real time comes to judge the person.
--
From: "George Abraham" 
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 6:26 PM
To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and
issuesconcerningthedisabled.'" 
Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity
arenormelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners> Appreciation need not
necessarily have to be restricted to physicalities.
> If we can verbalise the good we see in others, that would go a long way
in
> relationship. Besides physical appearances are important but there are
> several more deeper layers/dimensions to human beings. If we are 
> interested
> and concerned in the lives of the people we engage with and are willing
to
> help, support and cooperate, a number of people will be attracted. Good
> looks is only the beginning of being  attraction and if we do not have
the
> inner beauty to go with it, then we are gone.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
> Behalf
> Of bhawani shankar verma
> Sent: 29 June 2014 17:53
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople
> intrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>
> it is an imagination not reality. eye contact plays a big role on one's
> life
> if a person is sighted. sighted persons get 70 to 80% knowledge and
> experience of their surroundings through their eyes and in the context of
> blind person the case is totally different. even a person is partially
> blind, he always depend on his/her eyes. Can a blind person appreciate
> their
> colleagues in the office that aaj to aap bahut achhe lag rahe hain? If
> anybody claims it, i can challenge him. i don't believe on idealism, 
> hence,
>
> my comment may not be feel comfortable to my ideal friends. a blind
person
> himself make him handsome or beautiful but, can not judge other's
> beauteousness.
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Shadab Husain" 
> To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
> concerningthe disabled.'" 
> Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 3:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople
> intrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>
>
>>A girl in her teens and 20s has a deep and urgent yearning to be praised.
>> We're very well overlooking the fact that though we can't see her, we
can
>> listen to her voice, praise her joyful tone, bashfulness, excitement,
>> fear,
>> frankness, suppressed smiles and several expressions felt by the ears.
> See
>> what perfume she wears and never miss to praise it or gift her the
> perfume
>> or creams or shampoo you like. Feel her (you know?) the sense of touch
> and
>> shower praises on her. They're damn flattered if someone praises their
>> hair.
>> How well she cooks, walks (many can make out the way of walking by
>> footsteps: are they light? Heavy? Rapid? Slow?) We can be great admirers
>> of
>> women and can easily flatter them. bring them flowers, chocolates or
>> whatever they're excited about. But never feel that you're substituting
>> for
>> your eyes. Just love your wife and enjoy and overlook her small mistakes
>> and
>> forgive big ones but don't do it because of helplessness.
>>
>> A gent knows how to make his woman happy!
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>> Behalf
>> Of avinash shahi
>> Sent: 29 June 2014 14:04
>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
> concerning
>> the disabled.
>> Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople
>> intrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>>
>> Dear Pooha
>>
>> I've got something to say about beauty here. Many of my friends
>> representing
>> different genders on campus everyday are 

Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

2014-06-29 Thread George Abraham
I think Payal, the first step is to widen our social circle and begin
engaging with non blind people. We need to be patient and work on our own
charm/personality factor. There is no ready formula but something that has
worked for me is my smile, sense of humour and interest /concern for
others. If we are self absorbed and inward looking all the time then we
might not cover much ground.

Having said all this, we all need to be patient and wait for  the the right
person to come along. 
-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of payal
Sent: 29 June 2014 18:37
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

George what you say is absolutely true. the point here being getting past
that first introduction. All else comes later. To be able to reach somebody
sighted this plays a key role. There is nothing stopping us from
interacting
and establishing lasting relationships within the community, but looking
outside is a different story.
There are sighted people who are fazed with the overt attention a blind
person pays when interacgting with a sighted person for the first time. It
is that first time we are talking of here. 

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of George Abraham
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 6:27 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

Appreciation need not necessarily have to be restricted to physicalities.
If we can verbalise the good we see in others, that would go a long way in
relationship. Besides physical appearances are important but there are
several more deeper layers/dimensions to human beings. If we are interested
and concerned in the lives of the people we engage with and are willing to
help, support and cooperate, a number of people will be attracted. Good
looks is only the beginning of being  attraction and if we do not have the
inner beauty to go with it, then we are gone.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of bhawani shankar verma
Sent: 29 June 2014 17:53
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

it is an imagination not reality. eye contact plays a big role on one's
life 
if a person is sighted. sighted persons get 70 to 80% knowledge and 
experience of their surroundings through their eyes and in the context of 
blind person the case is totally different. even a person is partially 
blind, he always depend on his/her eyes. Can a blind person appreciate
their 
colleagues in the office that aaj to aap bahut achhe lag rahe hain? If 
anybody claims it, i can challenge him. i don't believe on idealism, hence,

my comment may not be feel comfortable to my ideal friends. a blind person 
himself make him handsome or beautiful but, can not judge other's 
beauteousness.

- Original Message - 
From: "Shadab Husain" 
To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled.'" 
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople 
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners


>A girl in her teens and 20s has a deep and urgent yearning to be praised.
> We're very well overlooking the fact that though we can't see her, we can
> listen to her voice, praise her joyful tone, bashfulness, excitement, 
> fear,
> frankness, suppressed smiles and several expressions felt by the ears.
See
> what perfume she wears and never miss to praise it or gift her the
perfume
> or creams or shampoo you like. Feel her (you know?) the sense of touch
and
> shower praises on her. They're damn flattered if someone praises their 
> hair.
> How well she cooks, walks (many can make out the way of walking by
> footsteps: are they light? Heavy? Rapid? Slow?) We can be great admirers 
> of
> women and can easily flatter them. bring them flowers, chocolates or
> whatever they're excited about. But never feel that you're substituting 
> for
> your eyes. Just love your wife and enjoy and overlook her small mistakes 
> and
> forgive big ones but don't do it because of helplessness.
>
> A gent knows how to make his woman happy!
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
> Behalf
> Of avinash shahi
> Sent: 29 June 2014 14:04
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople
> intrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>
> Dear Pooha
>
> I've got something to say about beauty here. Many of my friends 
> representing
> different genders on campus everyday

[AI] I have been admitted to Stanford Business School

2014-06-29 Thread Apoorv Kulkarni
Dear all,

It gives me great pleasure in informing you all that I have been admitted to 
the Stanford Graduate School of Business for MBA. My term begins in September 
2014, and I will be leaving for USA in second half of August.

I feel fortunate to have been offered a spot at this prestigious school, and 
must thank my parents, teachers and all my guides from the AI community for 
their support. 

Thank you all for all your help, support and mentorship

Warm regards,
Apoorv



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Re: [AI] my quriyocityarenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

2014-06-29 Thread George Abraham
Well Payal, we cannot see and hence we have to manage without the eye
factor. Our focus has to be strategies and methodologies that  lack of
sight is made redundant. We have to come up with our own style. I know that
this is easily said but the way forward demands innovations on our part in
beating  the so called realities. Giving up is the easiest option.
Complaining/cribbing gets us no where.  I personally have a number of very
close friends who are not disabled and are from the opposite gender.   

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of payal
Sent: 29 June 2014 18:28
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocityarenormelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

This is so true. all the initial eye contacts to establish acknowledgements
are absent when seeing is eliminated from the equation. As much as we would
like to theorize and practice other alternatives, this has to be taken into
count.  
Many subtle nuances are responsible for so many occasions in life. Whether
it is glancing over to look at a good looking guy and letting him know you
are interested, or vice versa to high powered negotiations at the corporate
table, eye contact can play a critical role.
I don't say we can't manage without it, we are all living with it and all
the other points mentioned by Avinash and Shadab hold good, but Bhawani's
point cannot be brushed aside. We all like to think of ourselves as persons
who have moved far beyond our disability and into a zone of having learned
to live effectively with it. However, it is not enough to say it doesn't
matter, because it does. 

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of bhawani shankar verma
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 5:53 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
thedisabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocityarenormelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

it is an imagination not reality. eye contact plays a big role on one's
life

if a person is sighted. sighted persons get 70 to 80% knowledge and 
experience of their surroundings through their eyes and in the context of 
blind person the case is totally different. even a person is partially 
blind, he always depend on his/her eyes. Can a blind person appreciate
their

colleagues in the office that aaj to aap bahut achhe lag rahe hain? If 
anybody claims it, i can challenge him. i don't believe on idealism, hence,

my comment may not be feel comfortable to my ideal friends. a blind person 
himself make him handsome or beautiful but, can not judge other's 
beauteousness.

- Original Message - 
From: "Shadab Husain" 
To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled.'" 
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople 
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners


>A girl in her teens and 20s has a deep and urgent yearning to be praised.
> We're very well overlooking the fact that though we can't see her, we can
> listen to her voice, praise her joyful tone, bashfulness, excitement, 
> fear,
> frankness, suppressed smiles and several expressions felt by the ears.
See
> what perfume she wears and never miss to praise it or gift her the
perfume
> or creams or shampoo you like. Feel her (you know?) the sense of touch
and
> shower praises on her. They're damn flattered if someone praises their 
> hair.
> How well she cooks, walks (many can make out the way of walking by
> footsteps: are they light? Heavy? Rapid? Slow?) We can be great admirers 
> of
> women and can easily flatter them. bring them flowers, chocolates or
> whatever they're excited about. But never feel that you're substituting 
> for
> your eyes. Just love your wife and enjoy and overlook her small mistakes 
> and
> forgive big ones but don't do it because of helplessness.
>
> A gent knows how to make his woman happy!
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
> Behalf
> Of avinash shahi
> Sent: 29 June 2014 14:04
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople
> intrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>
> Dear Pooha
>
> I've got something to say about beauty here. Many of my friends 
> representing
> different genders on campus everyday are exposed to bodily beauty of 
> varying
> kinds and get enmeshed for hours.  But when they see me passing by any
> unknown persons unperturbed, one or the other often asks me Shahi bhai, 
> how
> do you perceive beauty since you don't know how one does look like? 'What
> about your sixth sense how does it get activated'? I just cool them by
> invoking different interpretations of beauty from blind man's
perspective.

> I
> enlighten them by causing surprise to them. You know h

Re: [AI] Catalogue on assistive products of Karishma Enterprises needed

2014-06-29 Thread Muthu Selvi
Pls visitAICB website and visit our catalogue page where we have kept
karishma's catalogue also. Our website: www.aicb.org.in

On 6/29/14, Shadab Husain  wrote:
> Friends, I need the latest catalogue of Karishma Enterprises in which all
> available assistive products with their costs are listed. If anyone has it,
> please pass it on to me. I have already contacted KE.
>
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Re: [AI] I have been admitted to Stanford Business School

2014-06-29 Thread Kartik Sawhney
Hey Apoorv,

Congratulations. I look forward to meeting you and spending some great
time with you on the farm. Welcome to Stanford!

Best,

On 6/29/14, Apoorv Kulkarni  wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> It gives me great pleasure in informing you all that I have been admitted to
> the Stanford Graduate School of Business for MBA. My term begins in
> September 2014, and I will be leaving for USA in second half of August.
>
> I feel fortunate to have been offered a spot at this prestigious school, and
> must thank my parents, teachers and all my guides from the AI community for
> their support.
>
> Thank you all for all your help, support and mentorship
>
> Warm regards,
> Apoorv
>
>
>
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Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

2014-06-29 Thread bhawani shankar verma
it means that a blind person can describe one's personality not a 
beauteousness.


- Original Message - 
From: "George Abraham" 
To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled.'" 

Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople 
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners




Appreciation need not necessarily have to be restricted to physicalities.
If we can verbalise the good we see in others, that would go a long way in
relationship. Besides physical appearances are important but there are
several more deeper layers/dimensions to human beings. If we are 
interested

and concerned in the lives of the people we engage with and are willing to
help, support and cooperate, a number of people will be attracted. Good
looks is only the beginning of being  attraction and if we do not have the
inner beauty to go with it, then we are gone.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf

Of bhawani shankar verma
Sent: 29 June 2014 17:53
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

it is an imagination not reality. eye contact plays a big role on one's
life
if a person is sighted. sighted persons get 70 to 80% knowledge and
experience of their surroundings through their eyes and in the context of
blind person the case is totally different. even a person is partially
blind, he always depend on his/her eyes. Can a blind person appreciate
their
colleagues in the office that aaj to aap bahut achhe lag rahe hain? If
anybody claims it, i can challenge him. i don't believe on idealism, 
hence,


my comment may not be feel comfortable to my ideal friends. a blind person
himself make him handsome or beautiful but, can not judge other's
beauteousness.

- Original Message - 
From: "Shadab Husain" 

To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled.'" 
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners



A girl in her teens and 20s has a deep and urgent yearning to be praised.
We're very well overlooking the fact that though we can't see her, we can
listen to her voice, praise her joyful tone, bashfulness, excitement,
fear,
frankness, suppressed smiles and several expressions felt by the ears.

See

what perfume she wears and never miss to praise it or gift her the

perfume

or creams or shampoo you like. Feel her (you know?) the sense of touch

and

shower praises on her. They're damn flattered if someone praises their
hair.
How well she cooks, walks (many can make out the way of walking by
footsteps: are they light? Heavy? Rapid? Slow?) We can be great admirers
of
women and can easily flatter them. bring them flowers, chocolates or
whatever they're excited about. But never feel that you're substituting
for
your eyes. Just love your wife and enjoy and overlook her small mistakes
and
forgive big ones but don't do it because of helplessness.

A gent knows how to make his woman happy!



-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf
Of avinash shahi
Sent: 29 June 2014 14:04
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues

concerning

the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

Dear Pooha

I've got something to say about beauty here. Many of my friends
representing
different genders on campus everyday are exposed to bodily beauty of
varying
kinds and get enmeshed for hours.  But when they see me passing by any
unknown persons unperturbed, one or the other often asks me Shahi bhai,
how
do you perceive beauty since you don't know how one does look like? 'What
about your sixth sense how does it get activated'? I just cool them by
invoking different interpretations of beauty from blind man's

perspective.

I
enlighten them by causing surprise to them. You know how? Beauty lies in
cuddling, it is found in one's tongue, it is well-captured from one's
sublime personhood consisting of lows-and highs.  They retort back 'come
on
gentlemen don't be too philosophical. Then the biggest arm starts

yearning

to be deployed, And I cunningly deploy it. Hello!?
Your notion of beauty is racist from its very foundation, its temporary,
lacks conviction, bound to fade one's she/he hits forty five and so on.
And
my notion of beauty is matured, duration guaranteed, it accords full
recognition to the other one and simply more humanistic. Discussion ends
there on such high note... I'd be glad to know how women with blindness
perceive beauty in others?


On 6/27/14, pooja  wrote:

there are two aspects theoretical and practical. in theory, it is
supposed that we should marry a man/woman not blind/sighted. no one is
perfect so yes there will be one or another issue wh

Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

2014-06-29 Thread bhawani shankar verma
sir, how can a blind person judge the age of any unknown person sitting in 
front of him. a blind person can not feel the expression of face of the 
person. hence, we can not judge that he or she is true or false. many blind 
person have cheated in such type of communications. my opinion is if any one 
wish to marry with a sighted person, he or she should have a proper 
reference of their close friends or relatives. same should be applied in 
case of blind.



- Original Message - 
From: "George Abraham" 
To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled.'" 

Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 6:49 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople 
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners




1. Physical attributes are like the opening batsmen. They take care of the
shine. Some times they give you a good start.
2. But then the relationships are built on multiple factors. Common
interests, love, care/share, give and take, contribution/participation.
Physicality plays a very insignificant part.
3. Further to sustain a relationship, we also must grow as a person and
allow our partner also to grow so that our friendship evolves and
solidifies. We also need take on responsibility and play our role in the
family

Well I have tried to capture some factors, there could be more.

George


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf

Of bhawani shankar verma
Sent: 29 June 2014 17:53
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

it is an imagination not reality. eye contact plays a big role on one's
life
if a person is sighted. sighted persons get 70 to 80% knowledge and
experience of their surroundings through their eyes and in the context of
blind person the case is totally different. even a person is partially
blind, he always depend on his/her eyes. Can a blind person appreciate
their
colleagues in the office that aaj to aap bahut achhe lag rahe hain? If
anybody claims it, i can challenge him. i don't believe on idealism, 
hence,


my comment may not be feel comfortable to my ideal friends. a blind person
himself make him handsome or beautiful but, can not judge other's
beauteousness.

- Original Message - 
From: "Shadab Husain" 

To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled.'" 
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners



A girl in her teens and 20s has a deep and urgent yearning to be praised.
We're very well overlooking the fact that though we can't see her, we can
listen to her voice, praise her joyful tone, bashfulness, excitement,
fear,
frankness, suppressed smiles and several expressions felt by the ears.

See

what perfume she wears and never miss to praise it or gift her the

perfume

or creams or shampoo you like. Feel her (you know?) the sense of touch

and

shower praises on her. They're damn flattered if someone praises their
hair.
How well she cooks, walks (many can make out the way of walking by
footsteps: are they light? Heavy? Rapid? Slow?) We can be great admirers
of
women and can easily flatter them. bring them flowers, chocolates or
whatever they're excited about. But never feel that you're substituting
for
your eyes. Just love your wife and enjoy and overlook her small mistakes
and
forgive big ones but don't do it because of helplessness.

A gent knows how to make his woman happy!



-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf
Of avinash shahi
Sent: 29 June 2014 14:04
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues

concerning

the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

Dear Pooha

I've got something to say about beauty here. Many of my friends
representing
different genders on campus everyday are exposed to bodily beauty of
varying
kinds and get enmeshed for hours.  But when they see me passing by any
unknown persons unperturbed, one or the other often asks me Shahi bhai,
how
do you perceive beauty since you don't know how one does look like? 'What
about your sixth sense how does it get activated'? I just cool them by
invoking different interpretations of beauty from blind man's

perspective.

I
enlighten them by causing surprise to them. You know how? Beauty lies in
cuddling, it is found in one's tongue, it is well-captured from one's
sublime personhood consisting of lows-and highs.  They retort back 'come
on
gentlemen don't be too philosophical. Then the biggest arm starts

yearning

to be deployed, And I cunningly deploy it. Hello!?
Your notion of beauty is racist from its very foundation, its temporary,
lacks conviction, bound to fade one's she/he hits forty five and so on.
And
my notion of beauty is matured, duration guara

Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

2014-06-29 Thread bhawani shankar verma
you may be right puja, but, this can also be taken in the case of blind 
partner. many blind couples have gone to the court to decide their 
matrimoniel disputes. however, you can say that in case of blind partner the 
percentage is very low.


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intrestedinmarryingblindpartners



respected sir, I am fully agree that Appreciation need not necessarily 
have to be restricted to physicality's.
still believe that it is an important aspect. as we know, first impression 
is very important if not the last. I just want to convey that it is more 
challenging to mary a sighted. there are generally different kind of 
expectations before marriage and after marriage. after a long period of 
time, when honeymoon time gets over when you come in real world and 
live in practicalities then the real time comes to judge the person.

--
From: "George Abraham" 
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 6:26 PM
To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and 
issuesconcerningthedisabled.'" 
Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity 
arenormelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners> Appreciation need not 
necessarily have to be restricted to physicalities.
If we can verbalise the good we see in others, that would go a long way 
in

relationship. Besides physical appearances are important but there are
several more deeper layers/dimensions to human beings. If we are 
interested
and concerned in the lives of the people we engage with and are willing 
to

help, support and cooperate, a number of people will be attracted. Good
looks is only the beginning of being  attraction and if we do not have 
the

inner beauty to go with it, then we are gone.

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Behalf

Of bhawani shankar verma
Sent: 29 June 2014 17:53
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the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

it is an imagination not reality. eye contact plays a big role on one's
life
if a person is sighted. sighted persons get 70 to 80% knowledge and
experience of their surroundings through their eyes and in the context of
blind person the case is totally different. even a person is partially
blind, he always depend on his/her eyes. Can a blind person appreciate
their
colleagues in the office that aaj to aap bahut achhe lag rahe hain? If
anybody claims it, i can challenge him. i don't believe on idealism, 
hence,


my comment may not be feel comfortable to my ideal friends. a blind 
person

himself make him handsome or beautiful but, can not judge other's
beauteousness.

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From: "Shadab Husain" 

To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled.'" 
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners



A girl in her teens and 20s has a deep and urgent yearning to be praised.
We're very well overlooking the fact that though we can't see her, we 
can

listen to her voice, praise her joyful tone, bashfulness, excitement,
fear,
frankness, suppressed smiles and several expressions felt by the ears.

See

what perfume she wears and never miss to praise it or gift her the

perfume

or creams or shampoo you like. Feel her (you know?) the sense of touch

and

shower praises on her. They're damn flattered if someone praises their
hair.
How well she cooks, walks (many can make out the way of walking by
footsteps: are they light? Heavy? Rapid? Slow?) We can be great admirers
of
women and can easily flatter them. bring them flowers, chocolates or
whatever they're excited about. But never feel that you're substituting
for
your eyes. Just love your wife and enjoy and overlook her small mistakes
and
forgive big ones but don't do it because of helplessness.

A gent knows how to make his woman happy!



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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf
Of avinash shahi
Sent: 29 June 2014 14:04
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concerning

the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

Dear Pooha

I've got something to say about beauty here. Many of my friends
representing
different genders on campus everyday are exposed to bodily beauty of
varying
kinds and get enmeshed for hours.  But when they see me passing by any
unknown persons unperturbed, one or the other often asks me Shahi bhai,
how
do you perceive beauty since you don't know how one does look like? 
'What

about your sixth sense how does it get activated'? I just cool them by
invoking different interpretations of beaut

Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

2014-06-29 Thread bhawani shankar verma

i endorse your opinion sir.

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From: "George Abraham" 
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Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 7:23 PM
Subject: Re: [AI]myquriyocity arenormelpeople 
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners




I think Payal, the first step is to widen our social circle and begin
engaging with non blind people. We need to be patient and work on our own
charm/personality factor. There is no ready formula but something that has
worked for me is my smile, sense of humour and interest /concern for
others. If we are self absorbed and inward looking all the time then we
might not cover much ground.

Having said all this, we all need to be patient and wait for  the the 
right

person to come along.
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Of payal
Sent: 29 June 2014 18:37
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Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

George what you say is absolutely true. the point here being getting past
that first introduction. All else comes later. To be able to reach 
somebody

sighted this plays a key role. There is nothing stopping us from
interacting
and establishing lasting relationships within the community, but looking
outside is a different story.
There are sighted people who are fazed with the overt attention a blind
person pays when interacgting with a sighted person for the first time. It
is that first time we are talking of here.

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Of George Abraham
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 6:27 PM
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Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

Appreciation need not necessarily have to be restricted to physicalities.
If we can verbalise the good we see in others, that would go a long way in
relationship. Besides physical appearances are important but there are
several more deeper layers/dimensions to human beings. If we are 
interested

and concerned in the lives of the people we engage with and are willing to
help, support and cooperate, a number of people will be attracted. Good
looks is only the beginning of being  attraction and if we do not have the
inner beauty to go with it, then we are gone.

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf

Of bhawani shankar verma
Sent: 29 June 2014 17:53
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

it is an imagination not reality. eye contact plays a big role on one's
life
if a person is sighted. sighted persons get 70 to 80% knowledge and
experience of their surroundings through their eyes and in the context of
blind person the case is totally different. even a person is partially
blind, he always depend on his/her eyes. Can a blind person appreciate
their
colleagues in the office that aaj to aap bahut achhe lag rahe hain? If
anybody claims it, i can challenge him. i don't believe on idealism, 
hence,


my comment may not be feel comfortable to my ideal friends. a blind person
himself make him handsome or beautiful but, can not judge other's
beauteousness.

- Original Message - 
From: "Shadab Husain" 

To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled.'" 
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners



A girl in her teens and 20s has a deep and urgent yearning to be praised.
We're very well overlooking the fact that though we can't see her, we can
listen to her voice, praise her joyful tone, bashfulness, excitement,
fear,
frankness, suppressed smiles and several expressions felt by the ears.

See

what perfume she wears and never miss to praise it or gift her the

perfume

or creams or shampoo you like. Feel her (you know?) the sense of touch

and

shower praises on her. They're damn flattered if someone praises their
hair.
How well she cooks, walks (many can make out the way of walking by
footsteps: are they light? Heavy? Rapid? Slow?) We can be great admirers
of
women and can easily flatter them. bring them flowers, chocolates or
whatever they're excited about. But never feel that you're substituting
for
your eyes. Just love your wife and enjoy and overlook her small mistakes
and
forgive big ones but don't do it because of helplessness.

A gent knows how to make his woman happy!



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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf
Of avinash shahi
Sent: 29 June 2014 14:04
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con

Re: [AI] Apple mack book

2014-06-29 Thread preeti gacche
will there be any difficulty in switching fromwindow to i os? i mean
is it easy to use because i havent ever used anything other the
windows xp.

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Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

2014-06-29 Thread Shadab Husain
Bhawani bhai, long time! I agree that eye contact is crucial and admit it
troubles me too and till date I haven't found any solid solution to it. Eyes
are one of the most vital organs and the limitations emanating from the lack
of them can't be brushed aside.

Acknowledging this, I mentioned only the beauties which we can feel by our
other senses, and hope you'll agree that we can appreciate the human voice
etc. the little point I'm trying to make here is that if we have certain
limitations, it doesn't mean that we rust away our other capabilities in
disuse. Do you agree?

"I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do
something. And because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do the
something I can do. What I can do, I should do. And what I should do, by the
grace of God, I will do."

EDWARD EVERETT HALE, NINETEENTH-CENTURY UNITARIAN CLERGYMAN AND WRITER

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of bhawani shankar verma
Sent: 29 June 2014 17:53
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

it is an imagination not reality. eye contact plays a big role on one's life
if a person is sighted. sighted persons get 70 to 80% knowledge and
experience of their surroundings through their eyes and in the context of
blind person the case is totally different. even a person is partially
blind, he always depend on his/her eyes. Can a blind person appreciate their
colleagues in the office that aaj to aap bahut achhe lag rahe hain? If
anybody claims it, i can challenge him. i don't believe on idealism, hence,
my comment may not be feel comfortable to my ideal friends. a blind person
himself make him handsome or beautiful but, can not judge other's
beauteousness.

- Original Message -
From: "Shadab Husain" 
To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled.'" 
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners


>A girl in her teens and 20s has a deep and urgent yearning to be praised.
> We're very well overlooking the fact that though we can't see her, we 
>can  listen to her voice, praise her joyful tone, bashfulness, 
>excitement,  fear,  frankness, suppressed smiles and several 
>expressions felt by the ears. See  what perfume she wears and never 
>miss to praise it or gift her the perfume  or creams or shampoo you 
>like. Feel her (you know?) the sense of touch and  shower praises on 
>her. They're damn flattered if someone praises their  hair.
> How well she cooks, walks (many can make out the way of walking by
> footsteps: are they light? Heavy? Rapid? Slow?) We can be great 
>admirers  of  women and can easily flatter them. bring them flowers, 
>chocolates or  whatever they're excited about. But never feel that 
>you're substituting  for  your eyes. Just love your wife and enjoy and 
>overlook her small mistakes  and  forgive big ones but don't do it 
>because of helplessness.
>
> A gent knows how to make his woman happy!
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
> Behalf Of avinash shahi
> Sent: 29 June 2014 14:04
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
> concerning the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople 
> intrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>
> Dear Pooha
>
> I've got something to say about beauty here. Many of my friends 
> representing different genders on campus everyday are exposed to 
> bodily beauty of varying kinds and get enmeshed for hours.  But when 
> they see me passing by any unknown persons unperturbed, one or the 
> other often asks me Shahi bhai, how do you perceive beauty since you 
> don't know how one does look like? 'What about your sixth sense how 
> does it get activated'? I just cool them by invoking different 
> interpretations of beauty from blind man's perspective.
> I
> enlighten them by causing surprise to them. You know how? Beauty lies 
> in cuddling, it is found in one's tongue, it is well-captured from 
> one's sublime personhood consisting of lows-and highs.  They retort 
> back 'come on gentlemen don't be too philosophical. Then the biggest 
> arm starts yearning to be deployed, And I cunningly deploy it. Hello!?
> Your notion of beauty is racist from its very foundation, its 
> temporary, lacks conviction, bound to fade one's she/he hits forty five
and so on.
> And
> my notion of beauty is matured, duration guaranteed, it accords full 
> recognition to the other one and simply more humanistic. Discussion 
> ends there on such high note... I'd be glad to know how women with 
> blindness perceive beauty in others?
>
>
> On 6/27/14, pooja  wrote:
>> there are two aspects theoretical and practical. in theory, it is 
>> supposed that we should mar

Re: [AI] my quriyocityarenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

2014-06-29 Thread payal
I agree with you there george. There is always a way forward. All of us are
living examples. The point here being that practical aspects sometimes loom
larger over stratergies. 
I am an eternal optimist where associations and friendships are concerned. I
work in an entirely visually dominated world and hence have seen acceptance
and dismissals equally. However, these are totally relative situations and
one man's meat is another man's poison..
Good luck to all who manage with whatever works for them. 

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of George Abraham
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 7:39 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI]my quriyocityarenormelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

Well Payal, we cannot see and hence we have to manage without the eye
factor. Our focus has to be strategies and methodologies that  lack of
sight is made redundant. We have to come up with our own style. I know that
this is easily said but the way forward demands innovations on our part in
beating  the so called realities. Giving up is the easiest option.
Complaining/cribbing gets us no where.  I personally have a number of very
close friends who are not disabled and are from the opposite gender.   

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Sent: 29 June 2014 18:28
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
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Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocityarenormelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

This is so true. all the initial eye contacts to establish acknowledgements
are absent when seeing is eliminated from the equation. As much as we would
like to theorize and practice other alternatives, this has to be taken into
count.  
Many subtle nuances are responsible for so many occasions in life. Whether
it is glancing over to look at a good looking guy and letting him know you
are interested, or vice versa to high powered negotiations at the corporate
table, eye contact can play a critical role.
I don't say we can't manage without it, we are all living with it and all
the other points mentioned by Avinash and Shadab hold good, but Bhawani's
point cannot be brushed aside. We all like to think of ourselves as persons
who have moved far beyond our disability and into a zone of having learned
to live effectively with it. However, it is not enough to say it doesn't
matter, because it does. 

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of bhawani shankar verma
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 5:53 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
thedisabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocityarenormelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

it is an imagination not reality. eye contact plays a big role on one's
life

if a person is sighted. sighted persons get 70 to 80% knowledge and 
experience of their surroundings through their eyes and in the context of 
blind person the case is totally different. even a person is partially 
blind, he always depend on his/her eyes. Can a blind person appreciate
their

colleagues in the office that aaj to aap bahut achhe lag rahe hain? If 
anybody claims it, i can challenge him. i don't believe on idealism, hence,

my comment may not be feel comfortable to my ideal friends. a blind person 
himself make him handsome or beautiful but, can not judge other's 
beauteousness.

- Original Message - 
From: "Shadab Husain" 
To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled.'" 
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople 
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners


>A girl in her teens and 20s has a deep and urgent yearning to be praised.
> We're very well overlooking the fact that though we can't see her, we can
> listen to her voice, praise her joyful tone, bashfulness, excitement, 
> fear,
> frankness, suppressed smiles and several expressions felt by the ears.
See
> what perfume she wears and never miss to praise it or gift her the
perfume
> or creams or shampoo you like. Feel her (you know?) the sense of touch
and
> shower praises on her. They're damn flattered if someone praises their 
> hair.
> How well she cooks, walks (many can make out the way of walking by
> footsteps: are they light? Heavy? Rapid? Slow?) We can be great admirers 
> of
> women and can easily flatter them. bring them flowers, chocolates or
> whatever they're excited about. But never feel that you're substituting 
> for
> your eyes. Just love your wife and enjoy and overlook her small mistakes 
> and
> forgive big ones but don't do it because of helplessness.
>
> A gent knows how to make his woman happy!
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
> Behalf
> Of avinash 

Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

2014-06-29 Thread George Abraham
We talk to them! We cannot do something then we cannot. We have think of
alternatives.

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Of bhawani shankar verma
Sent: 29 June 2014 20:13
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the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

sir, how can a blind person judge the age of any unknown person sitting in 
front of him. a blind person can not feel the expression of face of the 
person. hence, we can not judge that he or she is true or false. many blind

person have cheated in such type of communications. my opinion is if any
one 
wish to marry with a sighted person, he or she should have a proper 
reference of their close friends or relatives. same should be applied in 
case of blind.


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From: "George Abraham" 
To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled.'" 
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 6:49 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople 
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners


> 1. Physical attributes are like the opening batsmen. They take care of
the
> shine. Some times they give you a good start.
> 2. But then the relationships are built on multiple factors. Common
> interests, love, care/share, give and take, contribution/participation.
> Physicality plays a very insignificant part.
> 3. Further to sustain a relationship, we also must grow as a person and
> allow our partner also to grow so that our friendship evolves and
> solidifies. We also need take on responsibility and play our role in the
> family
>
> Well I have tried to capture some factors, there could be more.
>
> George
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
> Behalf
> Of bhawani shankar verma
> Sent: 29 June 2014 17:53
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople
> intrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>
> it is an imagination not reality. eye contact plays a big role on one's
> life
> if a person is sighted. sighted persons get 70 to 80% knowledge and
> experience of their surroundings through their eyes and in the context of
> blind person the case is totally different. even a person is partially
> blind, he always depend on his/her eyes. Can a blind person appreciate
> their
> colleagues in the office that aaj to aap bahut achhe lag rahe hain? If
> anybody claims it, i can challenge him. i don't believe on idealism, 
> hence,
>
> my comment may not be feel comfortable to my ideal friends. a blind
person
> himself make him handsome or beautiful but, can not judge other's
> beauteousness.
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Shadab Husain" 
> To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
> concerningthe disabled.'" 
> Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 3:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople
> intrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>
>
>>A girl in her teens and 20s has a deep and urgent yearning to be praised.
>> We're very well overlooking the fact that though we can't see her, we
can
>> listen to her voice, praise her joyful tone, bashfulness, excitement,
>> fear,
>> frankness, suppressed smiles and several expressions felt by the ears.
> See
>> what perfume she wears and never miss to praise it or gift her the
> perfume
>> or creams or shampoo you like. Feel her (you know?) the sense of touch
> and
>> shower praises on her. They're damn flattered if someone praises their
>> hair.
>> How well she cooks, walks (many can make out the way of walking by
>> footsteps: are they light? Heavy? Rapid? Slow?) We can be great admirers
>> of
>> women and can easily flatter them. bring them flowers, chocolates or
>> whatever they're excited about. But never feel that you're substituting
>> for
>> your eyes. Just love your wife and enjoy and overlook her small mistakes
>> and
>> forgive big ones but don't do it because of helplessness.
>>
>> A gent knows how to make his woman happy!
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>> Behalf
>> Of avinash shahi
>> Sent: 29 June 2014 14:04
>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
> concerning
>> the disabled.
>> Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople
>> intrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>>
>> Dear Pooha
>>
>> I've got something to say about beauty here. Many of my friends
>> representing
>> different genders on campus everyday are exposed to bodily beauty of
>> varying
>> kinds and get enmeshed for hours.  But when they see me passing by any
>> unknown persons unperturbed, one or the other often asks me Shahi bhai,
>> how
>> do you perceive beauty since you don't know how one does look like?
'What
>> about your sixth sense how does it get activated'? I just cool them by
>> in

Re: [AI] my quriyocityarenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

2014-06-29 Thread George Abraham
Practical challenges exist. If we want to move forward, then we have to
certainly  look for  ways around the challenge. As I always believe focus
on the solutions rather than being bogged down by the problems. By saying
all this I am not brushing aside the huge challenges we face and grapple
with on a daily basis. But then... 

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of payal
Sent: 29 June 2014 20:38
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocityarenormelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

I agree with you there george. There is always a way forward. All of us are
living examples. The point here being that practical aspects sometimes loom
larger over stratergies. 
I am an eternal optimist where associations and friendships are concerned.
I
work in an entirely visually dominated world and hence have seen acceptance
and dismissals equally. However, these are totally relative situations and
one man's meat is another man's poison..
Good luck to all who manage with whatever works for them. 

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
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Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 7:39 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI]my quriyocityarenormelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

Well Payal, we cannot see and hence we have to manage without the eye
factor. Our focus has to be strategies and methodologies that  lack of
sight is made redundant. We have to come up with our own style. I know that
this is easily said but the way forward demands innovations on our part in
beating  the so called realities. Giving up is the easiest option.
Complaining/cribbing gets us no where.  I personally have a number of very
close friends who are not disabled and are from the opposite gender.   

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Sent: 29 June 2014 18:28
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
the disabled.'
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intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

This is so true. all the initial eye contacts to establish acknowledgements
are absent when seeing is eliminated from the equation. As much as we would
like to theorize and practice other alternatives, this has to be taken into
count.  
Many subtle nuances are responsible for so many occasions in life. Whether
it is glancing over to look at a good looking guy and letting him know you
are interested, or vice versa to high powered negotiations at the corporate
table, eye contact can play a critical role.
I don't say we can't manage without it, we are all living with it and all
the other points mentioned by Avinash and Shadab hold good, but Bhawani's
point cannot be brushed aside. We all like to think of ourselves as persons
who have moved far beyond our disability and into a zone of having learned
to live effectively with it. However, it is not enough to say it doesn't
matter, because it does. 

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Of bhawani shankar verma
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 5:53 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
thedisabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocityarenormelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

it is an imagination not reality. eye contact plays a big role on one's
life

if a person is sighted. sighted persons get 70 to 80% knowledge and 
experience of their surroundings through their eyes and in the context of 
blind person the case is totally different. even a person is partially 
blind, he always depend on his/her eyes. Can a blind person appreciate
their

colleagues in the office that aaj to aap bahut achhe lag rahe hain? If 
anybody claims it, i can challenge him. i don't believe on idealism, hence,

my comment may not be feel comfortable to my ideal friends. a blind person 
himself make him handsome or beautiful but, can not judge other's 
beauteousness.

- Original Message - 
From: "Shadab Husain" 
To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled.'" 
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople 
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners


>A girl in her teens and 20s has a deep and urgent yearning to be praised.
> We're very well overlooking the fact that though we can't see her, we can
> listen to her voice, praise her joyful tone, bashfulness, excitement, 
> fear,
> frankness, suppressed smiles and several expressions felt by the ears.
See
> what perfume she wears and never miss to praise it or gift her the
perfume
> or creams or shampoo you like. Feel her (you know?) the sense of touch
and
> shower praises on her. They're damn flattered if someone prai

[AI] Information required from the bankers.

2014-06-29 Thread Yishu Pal
Hi dear access Indians,

Many of you are working in various banks.
I have joined in Canara bank as PO from 23-06-2014.
But still I don't know what will be my job profile after going to the
Office/Branch from the date-07-07-2014 onwards.
I have asked to my faculties regarding my job profile after the training,
but they are telling don't worry.

So friends, Kindly let me know regarding my job profile and other things also.
Your variable suggestions will help me to survive myself in the bank easily.

Thanks and best regards
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Re: [AI] Apple mack book

2014-06-29 Thread Pranav Lal
Preeti,

The environments are different and you need to get used to the Apple
environment. As for difficulty, no but you need to do your own research and
read.

Pranav

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Subject: Re: [AI] Apple mack book

will there be any difficulty in switching fromwindow to i os? i mean
is it easy to use because i havent ever used anything other the
windows xp.

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> Preeti,
>
> http://www.applevis.com is one place to go. The key combination command+f5
> starts voice over.
>
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>
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>
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> planning to get one for me,  i've managed to gather  some info, and so
> far, what  so ever information i got, the mac book is very good in
> term of accessibility. will getting the same in next 1 or 2 days, then
> will share my experience.
>
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Re: [AI] Apple mack book

2014-06-29 Thread preeti gacche
I visited the site u gave.Seems I would be able to use it
thx a lot

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> Preeti,
>
> The environments are different and you need to get used to the Apple
> environment. As for difficulty, no but you need to do your own research and
> read.
>
> Pranav
>
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> Subject: Re: [AI] Apple mack book
>
> will there be any difficulty in switching fromwindow to i os? i mean
> is it easy to use because i havent ever used anything other the
> windows xp.
>
> On 6/29/14, Pranav Lal  wrote:
>> Preeti,
>>
>> http://www.applevis.com is one place to go. The key combination
>> command+f5
>> starts voice over.
>>
>> Pranav
>>
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>> Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 1:46 AM
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>> Subject: Re: [AI] Apple mack book
>>
>> hi, though i've havent  used the mac book ever,  but since am also
>> planning to get one for me,  i've managed to gather  some info, and so
>> far, what  so ever information i got, the mac book is very good in
>> term of accessibility. will getting the same in next 1 or 2 days, then
>> will share my experience.
>>
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Re: [AI] Supporting documents for time extension in exams

2014-06-29 Thread ajit able
pinky go to w.w.w.ccdisabilities.org,where guildline given by the
MSJE.diffrent exam body also gives such facilites.available in
websites.   Ajit 9905244057

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>
>  Hi. I am Pinky Gupta pursuing BBA from KSOU. I have asked them for time
>  extension for my exams. Any how they have agreed. For that, I have
>  been asked for the circular/supporting document to submit.
>  If anybody can help me to get such document, it would be helpful for me.
>
>  thanks and regards
>
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> Mysore
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Re: [AI] Supporting documents for time extension in exams

2014-06-29 Thread gtm.agra...@gmail.com

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Sent:  29/06/2014, 11:58  am
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Subject: [AI] Supporting documents for time extension in exams
dear pinki, there are a circular issued by union ministery of social justice 
and enpowerment containing provisions of extra time and other fasilities in 
examination. This applies equaly to all examination authorities. If you want 
this, i can provide.

Dear friends,

 Hi. I am Pinky Gupta pursuing BBA from KSOU. I have asked them for time
 extension for my exams. Any how they have agreed. For that, I have
 been asked for the circular/supporting document to submit.
 If anybody can help me to get such document, it would be helpful for me.

 thanks and regards

Pinky Gupta
Mysore



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Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

2014-06-29 Thread bhawani shankar verma
agreed, but, you can't judge age of the person by listening his or her 
voice. in my opinion marrige is a social arrangement for physical and 
emotional satisfaction of both the parties. it depends on both the parties, 
how much they are satisfying each other.



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Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 8:35 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople 
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners




Bhawani bhai, long time! I agree that eye contact is crucial and admit it
troubles me too and till date I haven't found any solid solution to it. 
Eyes
are one of the most vital organs and the limitations emanating from the 
lack

of them can't be brushed aside.

Acknowledging this, I mentioned only the beauties which we can feel by our
other senses, and hope you'll agree that we can appreciate the human voice
etc. the little point I'm trying to make here is that if we have certain
limitations, it doesn't mean that we rust away our other capabilities in
disuse. Do you agree?

"I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do
something. And because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do the
something I can do. What I can do, I should do. And what I should do, by 
the

grace of God, I will do."

EDWARD EVERETT HALE, NINETEENTH-CENTURY UNITARIAN CLERGYMAN AND WRITER

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Behalf

Of bhawani shankar verma
Sent: 29 June 2014 17:53
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

it is an imagination not reality. eye contact plays a big role on one's 
life

if a person is sighted. sighted persons get 70 to 80% knowledge and
experience of their surroundings through their eyes and in the context of
blind person the case is totally different. even a person is partially
blind, he always depend on his/her eyes. Can a blind person appreciate 
their

colleagues in the office that aaj to aap bahut achhe lag rahe hain? If
anybody claims it, i can challenge him. i don't believe on idealism, 
hence,

my comment may not be feel comfortable to my ideal friends. a blind person
himself make him handsome or beautiful but, can not judge other's
beauteousness.

- Original Message -
From: "Shadab Husain" 
To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled.'" 
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners



A girl in her teens and 20s has a deep and urgent yearning to be praised.
We're very well overlooking the fact that though we can't see her, we
can  listen to her voice, praise her joyful tone, bashfulness,
excitement,  fear,  frankness, suppressed smiles and several
expressions felt by the ears. See  what perfume she wears and never
miss to praise it or gift her the perfume  or creams or shampoo you
like. Feel her (you know?) the sense of touch and  shower praises on
her. They're damn flattered if someone praises their  hair.
How well she cooks, walks (many can make out the way of walking by
footsteps: are they light? Heavy? Rapid? Slow?) We can be great
admirers  of  women and can easily flatter them. bring them flowers,
chocolates or  whatever they're excited about. But never feel that
you're substituting  for  your eyes. Just love your wife and enjoy and
overlook her small mistakes  and  forgive big ones but don't do it
because of helplessness.

A gent knows how to make his woman happy!



-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf Of avinash shahi
Sent: 29 June 2014 14:04
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Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

Dear Pooha

I've got something to say about beauty here. Many of my friends
representing different genders on campus everyday are exposed to
bodily beauty of varying kinds and get enmeshed for hours.  But when
they see me passing by any unknown persons unperturbed, one or the
other often asks me Shahi bhai, how do you perceive beauty since you
don't know how one does look like? 'What about your sixth sense how
does it get activated'? I just cool them by invoking different
interpretations of beauty from blind man's perspective.
I
enlighten them by causing surprise to them. You know how? Beauty lies
in cuddling, it is found in one's tongue, it is well-captured from
one's sublime personhood consisting of lows-and highs.  They retort
back 'come on gentlemen don't be too philosophical. Then the biggest
arm starts yearning to be deployed, And I cunningly deploy it. Hello!?
Your notion of beauty is racist from its very foundation, its
temporary, lacks conviction,

[AI] kannada audio monthly magazine sanchaya

2014-06-29 Thread m.chandrashekar
dear friends, here i am sending kannada audio monthly magazine sanchaya, 
produced and prepared by 
mitra jyothi bangalore since long time. in this magazine, you can get lot of 
information and useful 
articals. please download and enjoy the magazine. size about 54 mb.
http://www.solidfiles.com/d/8389e78eaa/Sanchaya_June_20.rar
with best regards
m.chandru


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[AI] about list of groups and mailing lists for visually challenged right now.

2014-06-29 Thread Phanisri MLV
hello friends.  can anybody provide the total list of groups and
mailing lists for visually challenged as on today?  with best regards.



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Re: [AI] NVDA keyboard command query

2014-06-29 Thread Ashik
No sir. it announces the cursor position, but it does not say what number of 
line it is on.

Ashik Hirani
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in nvda also, press normal insert + delete placed at the number pad

On 6/29/14, Ashik  wrote:

Dear Friends,

In JAWS, I would use Insert+Delete to know the line number and the 
character
number of the cursor. But I haven't found such a command in NVDA. If 
there

is one, please let me know.

Thanking in advance.

Ashik Hirani
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Re: [AI] NVDA keyboard command query

2014-06-29 Thread Ashik

I want it to announce "Line fifteen" or something like that.
Ashik Hirani
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To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled." 

Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 1:44 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] NVDA keyboard command query



in nvda also, press normal insert + delete placed at the number pad

On 6/29/14, Ashik  wrote:

Dear Friends,

In JAWS, I would use Insert+Delete to know the line number and the 
character
number of the cursor. But I haven't found such a command in NVDA. If 
there

is one, please let me know.

Thanking in advance.

Ashik Hirani
09428855867


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nothing is difficult unless you make it appear so.

r. aravind,

D R O in bank of baroda,

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email id : aravind_...@yahoo.com, aravind.andhrab...@gmail.com.



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Re: [AI] Information required from the bankers.

2014-06-29 Thread Vamshi. G
Dear Yishu pal,

There is a dedicated group for visually challenged bankers by name
"visually impaired bankers of India".  You can interact with about
more than 300 visually challenged bankers from different banks
including your own Canara Bank.  To subscribe, please  send a mail to

vib-india+subscr...@googlegroups.com

In the return mail, click on the link "apply for membership" in which
you can fill your details like name, location and purpose of joining
the bank.  You will be subscribed to the group.







On 6/29/14, Yishu Pal  wrote:
> Hi dear access Indians,
>
> Many of you are working in various banks.
> I have joined in Canara bank as PO from 23-06-2014.
> But still I don't know what will be my job profile after going to the
> Office/Branch from the date-07-07-2014 onwards.
> I have asked to my faculties regarding my job profile after the training,
> but they are telling don't worry.
>
> So friends, Kindly let me know regarding my job profile and other things
> also.
> Your variable suggestions will help me to survive myself in the bank
> easily.
>
> Thanks and best regards
> Yishu pal
>
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[AI] Functional keys r not working with jaws key

2014-06-29 Thread Suryajyothimetlapalli
Hi access indians,
Hope u all r doing good.
I am using jaws 15 windows 8.1. Since 1 week my jaws key is not working with 
function keys. For example insert f1 to f 12. Please guide me how to activate 
it. 

Smiling is a part of life.
But smiling in all the situations is an art of life.
Thanks and regards,
M.surya jyothi 
CCT, 
SBH.
R C puram.
Hyderabad, AP.
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Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

2014-06-29 Thread Preeti Monga
No one can do everything!
So just make sure you do what you can do to the best of your ability! There
is always place and success for excellence!
All the very best!
Preeti

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-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Shadab Husain
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 8:36 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

Bhawani bhai, long time! I agree that eye contact is crucial and admit it
troubles me too and till date I haven't found any solid solution to it. Eyes
are one of the most vital organs and the limitations emanating from the lack
of them can't be brushed aside.

Acknowledging this, I mentioned only the beauties which we can feel by our
other senses, and hope you'll agree that we can appreciate the human voice
etc. the little point I'm trying to make here is that if we have certain
limitations, it doesn't mean that we rust away our other capabilities in
disuse. Do you agree?

"I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do
something. And because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do the
something I can do. What I can do, I should do. And what I should do, by the
grace of God, I will do."

EDWARD EVERETT HALE, NINETEENTH-CENTURY UNITARIAN CLERGYMAN AND WRITER

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of bhawani shankar verma
Sent: 29 June 2014 17:53
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

it is an imagination not reality. eye contact plays a big role on one's life
if a person is sighted. sighted persons get 70 to 80% knowledge and
experience of their surroundings through their eyes and in the context of
blind person the case is totally different. even a person is partially
blind, he always depend on his/her eyes. Can a blind person appreciate their
colleagues in the office that aaj to aap bahut achhe lag rahe hain? If
anybody claims it, i can challenge him. i don't believe on idealism, hence,
my comment may not be feel comfortable to my ideal friends. a blind person
himself make him handsome or beautiful but, can not judge other's
beauteousness.

- Original Message -
From: "Shadab Husain" 
To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled.'" 
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners


>A girl in her teens and 20s has a deep and urgent yearning to be praised.
> We're very well overlooking the fact that though we can't see her, we 
>can  listen to her voice, praise her joyful tone, bashfulness, 
>excitement,  fear,  frankness, suppressed smiles and several 
>expressions felt by the ears. See  what perfume she wears and never 
>miss to praise it or gift her the perfume  or creams or shampoo you 
>like. Feel her (you know?) the sense of touch and  shower praises on 
>her. They're damn flattered if someone praises their  hair.
> How well she cooks, walks (many can make out the way of walking by
> footsteps: are they light? Heavy? Rapid? Slow?) We can be great 
>admirers  of  women and can easily flatter them. bring them flowers, 
>chocolates or  whatever they're excited about. But never feel that 
>you're substituting  for  your eyes. Just love your wife and enjoy and 
>overlook her small mistakes  and  forgive big ones but don't do it 
>because of helplessness.
>
> A gent knows how to make his woman happy!
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
> Behalf Of avinash shahi
> Sent: 29 June 2014 14:04
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
> concerning the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople 
> intrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>
> Dear Pooha
>
> I've got something to say about beauty here. Many of my friends 
> representing different genders on campus everyday are exposed to 
> bodily beauty of varying kinds and get enmeshed for hours.  But when 
> they see me passing by any unknown persons unperturbed, one or the 
> other often asks me Shahi bhai, how do

Re: [AI] my quriyocityarenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

2014-06-29 Thread Preeti Monga
Where there is a will, there is always a way! We just have to go look for
our wills!
Preeti

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-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of George Abraham
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 9:11 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocityarenormelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

Practical challenges exist. If we want to move forward, then we have to
certainly  look for  ways around the challenge. As I always believe focus
on the solutions rather than being bogged down by the problems. By saying
all this I am not brushing aside the huge challenges we face and grapple
with on a daily basis. But then... 

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of payal
Sent: 29 June 2014 20:38
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocityarenormelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

I agree with you there george. There is always a way forward. All of us are
living examples. The point here being that practical aspects sometimes loom
larger over stratergies. 
I am an eternal optimist where associations and friendships are concerned.
I
work in an entirely visually dominated world and hence have seen acceptance
and dismissals equally. However, these are totally relative situations and
one man's meat is another man's poison..
Good luck to all who manage with whatever works for them. 

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of George Abraham
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 7:39 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI]my quriyocityarenormelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

Well Payal, we cannot see and hence we have to manage without the eye
factor. Our focus has to be strategies and methodologies that  lack of
sight is made redundant. We have to come up with our own style. I know that
this is easily said but the way forward demands innovations on our part in
beating  the so called realities. Giving up is the easiest option.
Complaining/cribbing gets us no where.  I personally have a number of very
close friends who are not disabled and are from the opposite gender.   

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of payal
Sent: 29 June 2014 18:28
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocityarenormelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

This is so true. all the initial eye contacts to establish acknowledgements
are absent when seeing is eliminated from the equation. As much as we would
like to theorize and practice other alternatives, this has to be taken into
count.  
Many subtle nuances are responsible for so many occasions in life. Whether
it is glancing over to look at a good looking guy and letting him know you
are interested, or vice versa to high powered negotiations at the corporate
table, eye contact can play a critical role.
I don't say we can't manage without it, we are all living with it and all
the other points mentioned by Avinash and Shadab hold good, but Bhawani's
point cannot be brushed aside. We all like to think of ourselves as persons
who have moved far beyond our disability and into a zone of having learned
to live effectively with it. However, it is not enough to say it doesn't
matter, because it does. 

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of bhawani shankar verma
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 5:53 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
thedisabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocityarenormelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

it is an imagination not reality. eye contact plays a big role on one's
life

if a person is sighted. sighted persons get 70 to 80% knowledge and 
experience of their surroundings through their eyes and in the context of 
blind person the case is totally different. even a person is partially 
blind, he always depend on his/her eyes. Can a blind person appreciate
their

colleagues in the office that aaj to aap bahut achh

Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

2014-06-29 Thread Preeti Monga
Even sighted persons get cheeted after they look and see! So that should not
be a problem!
Preeti

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-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of bhawani shankar verma
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 8:13 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

sir, how can a blind person judge the age of any unknown person sitting in 
front of him. a blind person can not feel the expression of face of the 
person. hence, we can not judge that he or she is true or false. many blind 
person have cheated in such type of communications. my opinion is if any one

wish to marry with a sighted person, he or she should have a proper 
reference of their close friends or relatives. same should be applied in 
case of blind.


- Original Message - 
From: "George Abraham" 
To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled.'" 
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 6:49 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople 
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners


> 1. Physical attributes are like the opening batsmen. They take care of the
> shine. Some times they give you a good start.
> 2. But then the relationships are built on multiple factors. Common
> interests, love, care/share, give and take, contribution/participation.
> Physicality plays a very insignificant part.
> 3. Further to sustain a relationship, we also must grow as a person and
> allow our partner also to grow so that our friendship evolves and
> solidifies. We also need take on responsibility and play our role in the
> family
>
> Well I have tried to capture some factors, there could be more.
>
> George
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
> Behalf
> Of bhawani shankar verma
> Sent: 29 June 2014 17:53
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople
> intrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>
> it is an imagination not reality. eye contact plays a big role on one's
> life
> if a person is sighted. sighted persons get 70 to 80% knowledge and
> experience of their surroundings through their eyes and in the context of
> blind person the case is totally different. even a person is partially
> blind, he always depend on his/her eyes. Can a blind person appreciate
> their
> colleagues in the office that aaj to aap bahut achhe lag rahe hain? If
> anybody claims it, i can challenge him. i don't believe on idealism, 
> hence,
>
> my comment may not be feel comfortable to my ideal friends. a blind person
> himself make him handsome or beautiful but, can not judge other's
> beauteousness.
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Shadab Husain" 
> To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
> concerningthe disabled.'" 
> Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 3:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople
> intrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>
>
>>A girl in her teens and 20s has a deep and urgent yearning to be praised.
>> We're very well overlooking the fact that though we can't see her, we can
>> listen to her voice, praise her joyful tone, bashfulness, excitement,
>> fear,
>> frankness, suppressed smiles and several expressions felt by the ears.
> See
>> what perfume she wears and never miss to praise it or gift her the
> perfume
>> or creams or shampoo you like. Feel her (you know?) the sense of touch
> and
>> shower praises on her. They're damn flattered if someone praises their
>> hair.
>> How well she cooks, walks (many can make out the way of walking by
>> footsteps: are they light? Heavy? Rapid? Slow?) We can be great admirers
>> of
>> women and can easily flatter them. bring them flowers, chocolates or
>> whatever they're excited about. But never feel that you're substituting
>> for
>> your eyes. Just love your wife and enjoy and overlook her small mistakes
>> and
>> forgive big ones but don't do it because of helplessness.
>>
>> A gent knows how to make his woman happy!
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>> Behalf
>> Of avinash shahi
>> Sent: 29 June 2014 14:04
>> To: AccessIndia: a list for di

Re: [AI] my quriyocityarenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

2014-06-29 Thread Preeti Monga
Well said George! I still have to  chase away admirers from the opposite sex
even at my age...  I mean from both the blind world as well as from the
sighted world!
You know what I mean?
And mind you... I am not beautiful at all! Just plane average  looking!
Preeti

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-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of George Abraham
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 7:39 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocityarenormelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

Well Payal, we cannot see and hence we have to manage without the eye
factor. Our focus has to be strategies and methodologies that  lack of
sight is made redundant. We have to come up with our own style. I know that
this is easily said but the way forward demands innovations on our part in
beating  the so called realities. Giving up is the easiest option.
Complaining/cribbing gets us no where.  I personally have a number of very
close friends who are not disabled and are from the opposite gender.   

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of payal
Sent: 29 June 2014 18:28
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocityarenormelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

This is so true. all the initial eye contacts to establish acknowledgements
are absent when seeing is eliminated from the equation. As much as we would
like to theorize and practice other alternatives, this has to be taken into
count.  
Many subtle nuances are responsible for so many occasions in life. Whether
it is glancing over to look at a good looking guy and letting him know you
are interested, or vice versa to high powered negotiations at the corporate
table, eye contact can play a critical role.
I don't say we can't manage without it, we are all living with it and all
the other points mentioned by Avinash and Shadab hold good, but Bhawani's
point cannot be brushed aside. We all like to think of ourselves as persons
who have moved far beyond our disability and into a zone of having learned
to live effectively with it. However, it is not enough to say it doesn't
matter, because it does. 

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of bhawani shankar verma
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 5:53 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
thedisabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocityarenormelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

it is an imagination not reality. eye contact plays a big role on one's
life

if a person is sighted. sighted persons get 70 to 80% knowledge and 
experience of their surroundings through their eyes and in the context of 
blind person the case is totally different. even a person is partially 
blind, he always depend on his/her eyes. Can a blind person appreciate
their

colleagues in the office that aaj to aap bahut achhe lag rahe hain? If 
anybody claims it, i can challenge him. i don't believe on idealism, hence,

my comment may not be feel comfortable to my ideal friends. a blind person 
himself make him handsome or beautiful but, can not judge other's 
beauteousness.

- Original Message - 
From: "Shadab Husain" 
To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled.'" 
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople 
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners


>A girl in her teens and 20s has a deep and urgent yearning to be praised.
> We're very well overlooking the fact that though we can't see her, we can
> listen to her voice, praise her joyful tone, bashfulness, excitement, 
> fear,
> frankness, suppressed smiles and several expressions felt by the ears.
See
> what perfume she wears and never miss to praise it or gift her the
perfume
> or creams or shampoo you like. Feel her (you know?) the sense of touch
and
> shower praises on her. They're damn flattered if someone praises their 
> hair.
> How well she cooks, walks (many can make out the way of walking by
> footsteps: are they light? Heavy? Rapid? Slow?) We can be great admirers 
> of
> women and can easily flatter them. bring them flowers, chocolates or
> wha

Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

2014-06-29 Thread Preeti Monga
Well said George! Fusion is one such platform that I am trying hard to get
going! People need to come and here is the invite for the next one..
Please be there on 3rd August Sunday at 2 pm. At the India International
Center Anexe Lecture room 2. We will be talking about this subject. Please
bring along as many friends / relatives from both the disabled and the non
disabled community!

In case  anyone is interested in attending, please drop me a line of
confirmation on my personal email i.e. :

preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in

Or call me on : 91 9871701646

Let us make an effort to widen our social circle!

Warmly
Preeti

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-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of George Abraham
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 7:23 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

I think Payal, the first step is to widen our social circle and begin
engaging with non blind people. We need to be patient and work on our own
charm/personality factor. There is no ready formula but something that has
worked for me is my smile, sense of humour and interest /concern for
others. If we are self absorbed and inward looking all the time then we
might not cover much ground.

Having said all this, we all need to be patient and wait for  the the right
person to come along. 
-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of payal
Sent: 29 June 2014 18:37
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

George what you say is absolutely true. the point here being getting past
that first introduction. All else comes later. To be able to reach somebody
sighted this plays a key role. There is nothing stopping us from
interacting
and establishing lasting relationships within the community, but looking
outside is a different story.
There are sighted people who are fazed with the overt attention a blind
person pays when interacgting with a sighted person for the first time. It
is that first time we are talking of here. 

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of George Abraham
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 6:27 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

Appreciation need not necessarily have to be restricted to physicalities.
If we can verbalise the good we see in others, that would go a long way in
relationship. Besides physical appearances are important but there are
several more deeper layers/dimensions to human beings. If we are interested
and concerned in the lives of the people we engage with and are willing to
help, support and cooperate, a number of people will be attracted. Good
looks is only the beginning of being  attraction and if we do not have the
inner beauty to go with it, then we are gone.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of bhawani shankar verma
Sent: 29 June 2014 17:53
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

it is an imagination not reality. eye contact plays a big role on one's
life 
if a person is sighted. sighted persons get 70 to 80% knowledge and 
experience of their surroundings through their eyes and in the context of 
blind person the case is totally different. even a person is partially 
blind, he always depend on his/her eyes. Can a blind person appreciate
their 
colleagues in the office that aaj to aap bahut achhe lag rahe hain? If 
anybody claims it, i can challenge him. i don't believe on idealism, hence,

my comment may not be feel comfortable to my ideal friends. a blind person 
himself make him handsome or beautiful but, can not judge other's 
beauteousness.

- Original Message - 
From: "Shadab Husain" 
To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled.'" 
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 3:03 PM
Subject: 

Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

2014-06-29 Thread Preeti Monga
Adding to this, I wish to say that we need to do something to ourselves that
our partners  feel a sense of pride when they walk along with us! And not
feel   embarrassed to be seen with us just because we are blind! I have a
friend who is so crazy after George, calls him Sunil Gaveskar", and is after
me to get her together with him! She is sighted... George, don't get big
headed just because of this!
Preeti

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-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of George Abraham
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 7:18 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

Well, there is nothing we can do about our inability to see, but we can
definitely do a lot to develop our personality. Charm includes physical
looks, our knowledge, communication skill, sense of humour and our ability
to take responsibility and contribute. Sustaining a relationship is most
certainly challenging and I believe the way forward is to find our own ways
of overcoming the challenges.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of pooja
Sent: 29 June 2014 18:57
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

respected sir, I am fully agree that Appreciation need not necessarily have

to be restricted to physicality's.
still believe that it is an important aspect. as we know, first impression 
is very important if not the last. I just want to convey that it is more 
challenging to mary a sighted. there are generally different kind of 
expectations before marriage and after marriage. after a long period of 
time, when honeymoon time gets over when you come in real world and
live 
in practicalities then the real time comes to judge the person.
--
From: "George Abraham" 
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 6:26 PM
To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and
issuesconcerningthedisabled.'" 
Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity
arenormelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners> Appreciation need not
necessarily have to be restricted to physicalities.
> If we can verbalise the good we see in others, that would go a long way
in
> relationship. Besides physical appearances are important but there are
> several more deeper layers/dimensions to human beings. If we are 
> interested
> and concerned in the lives of the people we engage with and are willing
to
> help, support and cooperate, a number of people will be attracted. Good
> looks is only the beginning of being  attraction and if we do not have
the
> inner beauty to go with it, then we are gone.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
> Behalf
> Of bhawani shankar verma
> Sent: 29 June 2014 17:53
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople
> intrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>
> it is an imagination not reality. eye contact plays a big role on one's
> life
> if a person is sighted. sighted persons get 70 to 80% knowledge and
> experience of their surroundings through their eyes and in the context of
> blind person the case is totally different. even a person is partially
> blind, he always depend on his/her eyes. Can a blind person appreciate
> their
> colleagues in the office that aaj to aap bahut achhe lag rahe hain? If
> anybody claims it, i can challenge him. i don't believe on idealism, 
> hence,
>
> my comment may not be feel comfortable to my ideal friends. a blind
person
> himself make him handsome or beautiful but, can not judge other's
> beauteousness.
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Shadab Husain" 
> To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
> concerningthe disabled.'" 
> Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 3:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople
> intrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>
>
>>A girl in her teens and 20s has a deep and urgent yearning to be praised.
>> We're very well overlooking the fact that though we can't see her, we
can
>> listen to her voice, praise her 

Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

2014-06-29 Thread Preeti Monga
Pooja, you are absolutely correct! But, if you are good, you are just good!
Every marriage, sighted partner or blind partner has to be nurtured and
taken care of... it is like bringing up a delicate  flowering plant!

Very few people actually can over come their own egos and work towards a
happy and successful marriage! Most people sighted or not, live jtogether
just because now they are married and they just have to live together!
Therefore, just don’t worry, we just have to learn and solve challenges in
marriages as they come along!
Preeti

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-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of pooja
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 6:57 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

respected sir, I am fully agree that Appreciation need not necessarily have 
to be restricted to physicality's.
still believe that it is an important aspect. as we know, first impression 
is very important if not the last. I just want to convey that it is more 
challenging to mary a sighted. there are generally different kind of 
expectations before marriage and after marriage. after a long period of 
time, when honeymoon time gets over when you come in real world and live

in practicalities then the real time comes to judge the person.
--
From: "George Abraham" 
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 6:26 PM
To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and
issuesconcerningthedisabled.'" 
Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity
arenormelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners> Appreciation need not
necessarily have to be restricted to physicalities.
> If we can verbalise the good we see in others, that would go a long way in
> relationship. Besides physical appearances are important but there are
> several more deeper layers/dimensions to human beings. If we are 
> interested
> and concerned in the lives of the people we engage with and are willing to
> help, support and cooperate, a number of people will be attracted. Good
> looks is only the beginning of being  attraction and if we do not have the
> inner beauty to go with it, then we are gone.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
> Behalf
> Of bhawani shankar verma
> Sent: 29 June 2014 17:53
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople
> intrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>
> it is an imagination not reality. eye contact plays a big role on one's
> life
> if a person is sighted. sighted persons get 70 to 80% knowledge and
> experience of their surroundings through their eyes and in the context of
> blind person the case is totally different. even a person is partially
> blind, he always depend on his/her eyes. Can a blind person appreciate
> their
> colleagues in the office that aaj to aap bahut achhe lag rahe hain? If
> anybody claims it, i can challenge him. i don't believe on idealism, 
> hence,
>
> my comment may not be feel comfortable to my ideal friends. a blind person
> himself make him handsome or beautiful but, can not judge other's
> beauteousness.
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Shadab Husain" 
> To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
> concerningthe disabled.'" 
> Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 3:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople
> intrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>
>
>>A girl in her teens and 20s has a deep and urgent yearning to be praised.
>> We're very well overlooking the fact that though we can't see her, we can
>> listen to her voice, praise her joyful tone, bashfulness, excitement,
>> fear,
>> frankness, suppressed smiles and several expressions felt by the ears.
> See
>> what perfume she wears and never miss to praise it or gift her the
> perfume
>> or creams or shampoo you like. Feel her (you know?) the sense of touch
> and
>> shower praises on her. They're damn flattered if someone praises their
>> hair.
>> How well she cooks, walks (many can make out the way of walking by
>> footsteps: are they light? Heavy? Rapid? Slow?) We can be great admirers
>> of
>> women and can easily flatter them. bring them flowers, 

Re: [AI] my quriyocityarenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

2014-06-29 Thread TS Negi
Most important point rased here. if a sight spouse lives with no eye contact 
to his/her blind partner, He/she would be lacking some important aspect of 
life. and he/she may fulfill his/her desire to some other sighted 
counterparts.


--
From: "bhawani shankar verma" 
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 5:22 AM
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning 
thedisabled." 
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocityarenormelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners> it is an imagination not reality. eye contact plays a big role on one's 
life if a person is sighted. sighted persons get 70 to 80% knowledge and 
experience of their surroundings through their eyes and in the context of 
blind person the case is totally different. even a person is partially 
blind, he always depend on his/her eyes. Can a blind person appreciate their 
colleagues in the office that aaj to aap bahut achhe lag rahe hain? If 
anybody claims it, i can challenge him. i don't believe on idealism, hence, 
my comment may not be feel comfortable to my ideal friends. a blind person 
himself make him handsome or beautiful but, can not judge other's 
beauteousness.


- Original Message - 
From: "Shadab Husain" 
To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled.'" 

Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople 
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners




A girl in her teens and 20s has a deep and urgent yearning to be praised.
We're very well overlooking the fact that though we can't see her, we can
listen to her voice, praise her joyful tone, bashfulness, excitement, 
fear,
frankness, suppressed smiles and several expressions felt by the ears. 
See
what perfume she wears and never miss to praise it or gift her the 
perfume
or creams or shampoo you like. Feel her (you know?) the sense of touch 
and
shower praises on her. They're damn flattered if someone praises their 
hair.

How well she cooks, walks (many can make out the way of walking by
footsteps: are they light? Heavy? Rapid? Slow?) We can be great admirers 
of

women and can easily flatter them. bring them flowers, chocolates or
whatever they're excited about. But never feel that you're substituting 
for
your eyes. Just love your wife and enjoy and overlook her small mistakes 
and

forgive big ones but don't do it because of helplessness.

A gent knows how to make his woman happy!



-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf

Of avinash shahi
Sent: 29 June 2014 14:04
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerning

the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

Dear Pooha

I've got something to say about beauty here. Many of my friends 
representing
different genders on campus everyday are exposed to bodily beauty of 
varying

kinds and get enmeshed for hours.  But when they see me passing by any
unknown persons unperturbed, one or the other often asks me Shahi bhai, 
how

do you perceive beauty since you don't know how one does look like? 'What
about your sixth sense how does it get activated'? I just cool them by
invoking different interpretations of beauty from blind man's 
perspective. I

enlighten them by causing surprise to them. You know how? Beauty lies in
cuddling, it is found in one's tongue, it is well-captured from one's
sublime personhood consisting of lows-and highs.  They retort back 'come 
on
gentlemen don't be too philosophical. Then the biggest arm starts 
yearning

to be deployed, And I cunningly deploy it. Hello!?
Your notion of beauty is racist from its very foundation, its temporary,
lacks conviction, bound to fade one's she/he hits forty five and so on. 
And

my notion of beauty is matured, duration guaranteed, it accords full
recognition to the other one and simply more humanistic. Discussion ends
there on such high note... I'd be glad to know how women with blindness
perceive beauty in others?


On 6/27/14, pooja  wrote:

there are two aspects theoretical and practical. in theory, it is
supposed that we should marry a man/woman not blind/sighted. no one is
perfect so yes there will be one or another issue which can dissatisfy
you. so everyone is equal from marriage point of view. but in
practical terms, no matter how successful you are, blindness is our
unique identity as it can be cast or religion in the sighted's case. I
think in arrange marriages we can't even think to marry a sighted of
equal status. as far as love marriages are concern, the success ratio
is declining rapidly in case of both sighted partners also. I think

feelings doesn't last long in tough ground realities.

if you can afford the resources to compensate your blindness, then it
can work. one tough reality is even a successful blind man/woman don't
want to marry a blind then how can we expect a sighted to do so? in
our

Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

2014-06-29 Thread George Abraham
I am happy to have a coffee! No big head only good company!

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Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

Adding to this, I wish to say that we need to do something to ourselves
that
our partners  feel a sense of pride when they walk along with us! And not
feel   embarrassed to be seen with us just because we are blind! I have a
friend who is so crazy after George, calls him Sunil Gaveskar", and is
after
me to get her together with him! She is sighted... George, don't get big
headed just because of this!
Preeti

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Of George Abraham
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 7:18 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

Well, there is nothing we can do about our inability to see, but we can
definitely do a lot to develop our personality. Charm includes physical
looks, our knowledge, communication skill, sense of humour and our ability
to take responsibility and contribute. Sustaining a relationship is most
certainly challenging and I believe the way forward is to find our own ways
of overcoming the challenges.

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Of pooja
Sent: 29 June 2014 18:57
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Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

respected sir, I am fully agree that Appreciation need not necessarily have

to be restricted to physicality's.
still believe that it is an important aspect. as we know, first impression 
is very important if not the last. I just want to convey that it is more 
challenging to mary a sighted. there are generally different kind of 
expectations before marriage and after marriage. after a long period of 
time, when honeymoon time gets over when you come in real world and
live 
in practicalities then the real time comes to judge the person.
--
From: "George Abraham" 
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 6:26 PM
To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and
issuesconcerningthedisabled.'" 
Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity
arenormelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners> Appreciation need not
necessarily have to be restricted to physicalities.
> If we can verbalise the good we see in others, that would go a long way
in
> relationship. Besides physical appearances are important but there are
> several more deeper layers/dimensions to human beings. If we are 
> interested
> and concerned in the lives of the people we engage with and are willing
to
> help, support and cooperate, a number of people will be attracted. Good
> looks is only the beginning of being  attraction and if we do not have
the
> inner beauty to go with it, then we are gone.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
> Behalf
> Of bhawani shankar verma
> Sent: 29 June 2014 17:53
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople
> intrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>
> it is an imagination not reality. eye contact plays a big role on one's
> life
> if a person is sighted. sighted persons get 70 to 80% knowledge and
> experience of their surroundings through their eyes and in the context of
> blind person the case is totally different. even a person is partially
> blind, he always depend on his/her eyes. Can a blind person appreciate
> their
> colleagues in the office that aaj to aap bahut achhe lag rahe hain? If
> anybody claims it, i can challenge him. i don't believe on idealism, 
> hence,
>
> my comment may not be feel comfortable to my ideal friends. a blind
person
> himself make him handsome or beautiful but, can not judge other's
> beauteousness.
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Shadab Husain" 
> To: "'AccessIndia: a list for dis

Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

2014-06-29 Thread Preeti Monga
The idea is that a sighted person should be there dying to make your
acquaintance and running after you to get to know you! You can developed
that kind of a personality, I can teach it, but it is very hard and constant
work for us blind people! 
Then the trick is to maintain the same throughout the relationship, in fact,
grow in that direction... you need your partner  to keep wanting to be with
you  all along! We in India mostly only consentrate on  hooking  our
partners and then once we are successful at that, we just let go of all our
hard work. That is where the trouble  starts! It is an all round  on going
thing. As time passes, the work gets tougher; but if you want to keep your
relationship fresh and glowing and happy, you have to pledge to hardwork at
all fronts!
Warmly
Preeti

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Of payal
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 6:37 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

George what you say is absolutely true. the point here being getting past
that first introduction. All else comes later. To be able to reach somebody
sighted this plays a key role. There is nothing stopping us from interacting
and establishing lasting relationships within the community, but looking
outside is a different story.
There are sighted people who are fazed with the overt attention a blind
person pays when interacgting with a sighted person for the first time. It
is that first time we are talking of here. 

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of George Abraham
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 6:27 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

Appreciation need not necessarily have to be restricted to physicalities.
If we can verbalise the good we see in others, that would go a long way in
relationship. Besides physical appearances are important but there are
several more deeper layers/dimensions to human beings. If we are interested
and concerned in the lives of the people we engage with and are willing to
help, support and cooperate, a number of people will be attracted. Good
looks is only the beginning of being  attraction and if we do not have the
inner beauty to go with it, then we are gone.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of bhawani shankar verma
Sent: 29 June 2014 17:53
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

it is an imagination not reality. eye contact plays a big role on one's
life 
if a person is sighted. sighted persons get 70 to 80% knowledge and 
experience of their surroundings through their eyes and in the context of 
blind person the case is totally different. even a person is partially 
blind, he always depend on his/her eyes. Can a blind person appreciate
their 
colleagues in the office that aaj to aap bahut achhe lag rahe hain? If 
anybody claims it, i can challenge him. i don't believe on idealism, hence,

my comment may not be feel comfortable to my ideal friends. a blind person 
himself make him handsome or beautiful but, can not judge other's 
beauteousness.

- Original Message - 
From: "Shadab Husain" 
To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled.'" 
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople 
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners


>A girl in her teens and 20s has a deep and urgent yearning to be praised.
> We're very well overlooking the fact that though we can't see her, we can
> listen to her voice, praise her joyful tone, bashfulness, excitement, 
> fear,
> frankness, suppressed smiles and several expressions felt by the ears.
See
> what perfume she wears and never miss to praise it or gift her the
perfume
> or creams or shampoo you like. Feel her (you know?) the sense of touch
and
> shower praises on her. They're damn flattered if someone praises their 
> hair.
> How well she cooks,

Re: [AI] my quriyocityarenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

2014-06-29 Thread Preeti Monga
Of course it does matter... I mean our disability! But, as George very
rightly said... we need to fill in the gap with other attributes!
Preeti

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of payal
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 6:28 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocityarenormelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

This is so true. all the initial eye contacts to establish acknowledgements
are absent when seeing is eliminated from the equation. As much as we would
like to theorize and practice other alternatives, this has to be taken into
count.  
Many subtle nuances are responsible for so many occasions in life. Whether
it is glancing over to look at a good looking guy and letting him know you
are interested, or vice versa to high powered negotiations at the corporate
table, eye contact can play a critical role.
I don't say we can't manage without it, we are all living with it and all
the other points mentioned by Avinash and Shadab hold good, but Bhawani's
point cannot be brushed aside. We all like to think of ourselves as persons
who have moved far beyond our disability and into a zone of having learned
to live effectively with it. However, it is not enough to say it doesn't
matter, because it does. 

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of bhawani shankar verma
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 5:53 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
thedisabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocityarenormelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

it is an imagination not reality. eye contact plays a big role on one's life

if a person is sighted. sighted persons get 70 to 80% knowledge and 
experience of their surroundings through their eyes and in the context of 
blind person the case is totally different. even a person is partially 
blind, he always depend on his/her eyes. Can a blind person appreciate their

colleagues in the office that aaj to aap bahut achhe lag rahe hain? If 
anybody claims it, i can challenge him. i don't believe on idealism, hence, 
my comment may not be feel comfortable to my ideal friends. a blind person 
himself make him handsome or beautiful but, can not judge other's 
beauteousness.

- Original Message - 
From: "Shadab Husain" 
To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled.'" 
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople 
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners


>A girl in her teens and 20s has a deep and urgent yearning to be praised.
> We're very well overlooking the fact that though we can't see her, we can
> listen to her voice, praise her joyful tone, bashfulness, excitement, 
> fear,
> frankness, suppressed smiles and several expressions felt by the ears. See
> what perfume she wears and never miss to praise it or gift her the perfume
> or creams or shampoo you like. Feel her (you know?) the sense of touch and
> shower praises on her. They're damn flattered if someone praises their 
> hair.
> How well she cooks, walks (many can make out the way of walking by
> footsteps: are they light? Heavy? Rapid? Slow?) We can be great admirers 
> of
> women and can easily flatter them. bring them flowers, chocolates or
> whatever they're excited about. But never feel that you're substituting 
> for
> your eyes. Just love your wife and enjoy and overlook her small mistakes 
> and
> forgive big ones but don't do it because of helplessness.
>
> A gent knows how to make his woman happy!
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
> Behalf
> Of avinash shahi
> Sent: 29 June 2014 14:04
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople
> intrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>
> Dear Pooha
>
> I've got something to say about beauty here. Many of my friends 
> representing
> different genders on campus everyday are exposed to bodily beauty of 
> varying
> kinds and get enmeshed for hours.  But when they see me passing by any
> unknown persons unperturbed, one or the other often asks me Shahi bhai, 
> how
> do you p

Re: [AI] my quriyocityarenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

2014-06-29 Thread Preeti Monga
Eye contact can be replaced with other signals which we can teach our life
partners! And if they are intelligent enough, they will derive these other
methords themselves... like  squeezing your hand,  gently nudging you
subtly, making a coded sound which both of you understand and things like
this!
Preeti

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-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of TS Negi
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 11:16 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocityarenormelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

Most important point rased here. if a sight spouse lives with no eye contact

to his/her blind partner, He/she would be lacking some important aspect of 
life. and he/she may fulfill his/her desire to some other sighted 
counterparts.

--
From: "bhawani shankar verma" 
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 5:22 AM
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning 
thedisabled." 
Subject: Re: [AI] my
quriyocityarenormelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners> it is an
imagination not reality. eye contact plays a big role on one's 
life if a person is sighted. sighted persons get 70 to 80% knowledge and 
experience of their surroundings through their eyes and in the context of 
blind person the case is totally different. even a person is partially 
blind, he always depend on his/her eyes. Can a blind person appreciate their

colleagues in the office that aaj to aap bahut achhe lag rahe hain? If 
anybody claims it, i can challenge him. i don't believe on idealism, hence, 
my comment may not be feel comfortable to my ideal friends. a blind person 
himself make him handsome or beautiful but, can not judge other's 
beauteousness.
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Shadab Husain" 
> To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
> concerningthe disabled.'" 
> Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 3:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople 
> intrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>
>
>>A girl in her teens and 20s has a deep and urgent yearning to be praised.
>> We're very well overlooking the fact that though we can't see her, we can
>> listen to her voice, praise her joyful tone, bashfulness, excitement, 
>> fear,
>> frankness, suppressed smiles and several expressions felt by the ears. 
>> See
>> what perfume she wears and never miss to praise it or gift her the 
>> perfume
>> or creams or shampoo you like. Feel her (you know?) the sense of touch 
>> and
>> shower praises on her. They're damn flattered if someone praises their 
>> hair.
>> How well she cooks, walks (many can make out the way of walking by
>> footsteps: are they light? Heavy? Rapid? Slow?) We can be great admirers 
>> of
>> women and can easily flatter them. bring them flowers, chocolates or
>> whatever they're excited about. But never feel that you're substituting 
>> for
>> your eyes. Just love your wife and enjoy and overlook her small mistakes 
>> and
>> forgive big ones but don't do it because of helplessness.
>>
>> A gent knows how to make his woman happy!
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
>> Behalf
>> Of avinash shahi
>> Sent: 29 June 2014 14:04
>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
>> concerning
>> the disabled.
>> Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople
>> intrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>>
>> Dear Pooha
>>
>> I've got something to say about beauty here. Many of my friends 
>> representing
>> different genders on campus everyday are exposed to bodily beauty of 
>> varying
>> kinds and get enmeshed for hours.  But when they see me passing by any
>> unknown persons unperturbed, one or the other often asks me Shahi bhai, 
>> how
>> do you perceive beauty since you don't know how one does look like? 'What
>> about your sixth sense how does it get activated'? I just cool them by
>> invoking different interpretations of beauty from blind man's 
>> perspective. I
>> enlighten them by causing surprise to them. You know how? Beauty lies in
>> cuddling, it is found in one's tongue, it is well-captured from one's
>> sublime personhood consisting of lows-and highs.  They retort back 'come 
>> on
>> gentlemen don't

Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

2014-06-29 Thread Preeti Monga
OK will get you guys together one of these days! See, here the oldies are
still up and about... so you all youngsters should learn from George sir!
I think George you may like to partner with me and maybe think of some other
ideas to get our Fusion meet on 3rd  August relationship talk become more
valuable for both men and women?
Let us try? I think this a very important subject which gets  very often
swept  under the carpet?
Preeti

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-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of George Abraham
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 10:46 AM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

I am happy to have a coffee! No big head only good company!

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Preeti Monga
Sent: 30 June 2014 10:37
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

Adding to this, I wish to say that we need to do something to ourselves
that
our partners  feel a sense of pride when they walk along with us! And not
feel   embarrassed to be seen with us just because we are blind! I have a
friend who is so crazy after George, calls him Sunil Gaveskar", and is
after
me to get her together with him! She is sighted... George, don't get big
headed just because of this!
Preeti

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-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of George Abraham
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 7:18 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

Well, there is nothing we can do about our inability to see, but we can
definitely do a lot to develop our personality. Charm includes physical
looks, our knowledge, communication skill, sense of humour and our ability
to take responsibility and contribute. Sustaining a relationship is most
certainly challenging and I believe the way forward is to find our own ways
of overcoming the challenges.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of pooja
Sent: 29 June 2014 18:57
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

respected sir, I am fully agree that Appreciation need not necessarily have

to be restricted to physicality's.
still believe that it is an important aspect. as we know, first impression 
is very important if not the last. I just want to convey that it is more 
challenging to mary a sighted. there are generally different kind of 
expectations before marriage and after marriage. after a long period of 
time, when honeymoon time gets over when you come in real world and
live 
in practicalities then the real time comes to judge the person.
--
From: "George Abraham" 
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 6:26 PM
To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and
issuesconcerningthedisabled.'" 
Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity
arenormelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners> Appreciation need not
necessarily have to be restricted to physicalities.
> If we can verbalise the good we see in others, that would go a long way
in
> relationship. Besides physical appearances are important but there are
> several more deeper layers/dimensions to human beings. If we are 
> interested
> and concerned in

Re: [AI] I have been admitted to Stanford Business School

2014-06-29 Thread Arun Dua
Congratulations. It is indeed an achievement. Look forward to your becoming a  
CEO of some big Corporate house. Keep in touch.

    With love & regards


 



On Sunday, June 29, 2014 7:38 PM, Apoorv Kulkarni  
wrote:
 


Dear all,

It gives me great pleasure in informing you all that I have been admitted to 
the Stanford Graduate School of Business for MBA. My term begins in September 
2014, and I will be leaving for USA in second half of August.

I feel fortunate to have been offered a spot at this prestigious school, and 
must thank my parents, teachers and all my guides from the AI community for 
their support. 

Thank you all for all your help, support and mentorship

Warm regards,
Apoorv



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Re: [AI] Functional keys r not working with jaws key

2014-06-29 Thread Sunil Sangtani.
do make sure that witch keyboard layout you are using from the jaws
settings menu.  if its  laptop layout,  the capslock key works as jaws
key.

On 6/30/14, Suryajyothimetlapalli  wrote:
> Hi access indians,
> Hope u all r doing good.
> I am using jaws 15 windows 8.1. Since 1 week my jaws key is not working with
> function keys. For example insert f1 to f 12. Please guide me how to
> activate it.
>
> Smiling is a part of life.
> But smiling in all the situations is an art of life.
> Thanks and regards,
> M.surya jyothi
> CCT,
> SBH.
> R C puram.
> Hyderabad, AP.
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

2014-06-29 Thread George Abraham
Sure! Let us start talking! Everything begins with talking for me, not eye
contact!

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Preeti Monga
Sent: 30 June 2014 11:02
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

OK will get you guys together one of these days! See, here the oldies are
still up and about... so you all youngsters should learn from George sir!
I think George you may like to partner with me and maybe think of some
other
ideas to get our Fusion meet on 3rd  August relationship talk become more
valuable for both men and women?
Let us try? I think this a very important subject which gets  very often
swept  under the carpet?
Preeti

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Of George Abraham
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 10:46 AM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

I am happy to have a coffee! No big head only good company!

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Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

Adding to this, I wish to say that we need to do something to ourselves
that
our partners  feel a sense of pride when they walk along with us! And not
feel   embarrassed to be seen with us just because we are blind! I have a
friend who is so crazy after George, calls him Sunil Gaveskar", and is
after
me to get her together with him! She is sighted... George, don't get big
headed just because of this!
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-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of George Abraham
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 7:18 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

Well, there is nothing we can do about our inability to see, but we can
definitely do a lot to develop our personality. Charm includes physical
looks, our knowledge, communication skill, sense of humour and our ability
to take responsibility and contribute. Sustaining a relationship is most
certainly challenging and I believe the way forward is to find our own ways
of overcoming the challenges.

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Of pooja
Sent: 29 June 2014 18:57
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] myquriyocity arenormelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

respected sir, I am fully agree that Appreciation need not necessarily have

to be restricted to physicality's.
still believe that it is an important aspect. as we know, first impression 
is very important if not the last. I just want to convey that it is more 
challenging to mary a sighted. there are generally different kind of 
expectations before marriage and after marriage. after a long period of 
time, when honeymoon time gets over when you come in real world and
live 
in practicalities then the real time comes to judge the person.
--
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Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 6:26 PM
To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and
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Su

Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

2014-06-29 Thread avinash shahi
Dear Bhawani sir

I read a piece a fortnight ago 'outliers of motherhood' gifted to me
by one of my friends on my birthday she is doing PHD here. where
author very convincingly  argues do we ever think why we want to
produce children? She writes 'when a woman is busy in erratic
workaholics hours at the workplace and her body desires to produce,
but she isn't comfortable to bring him/her up why she is forced to do
so'? So the fundamental question she raises and I found it very
fascinating, why we marry? And the second thing which I wish to
respond to your valid concern about 'eye-contact' by textually
narrating a small story. Once after the seminar on Possibility of Modi
coming and the future of India got over at India International Centre,
we were having drinks  at the venue. Students and teachers were
socializing together. Suddenly one lady journalist working with HT
leaned forward and inclined to shake hands and I had no clue since I
was dam busy in finishing my flask. Next moment, One of my friends
told me her facial expression were going little reddish, you need to
act, I felt sorry and took initiative on my own and shook hands. Then
she after a minute silence, said something in little nashili voice to
me which I still remember: 'your and my identities  is full in many
ways. The many vacuums in life will be there no matter how much we
enjoy it with things and people.' And I think same is the case with
eye-contact... At first meeting it may trouble blind/non-blind daters,
but as things develop all can be smartly managed.


On 6/29/14, bhawani shankar verma  wrote:
> it is an imagination not reality. eye contact plays a big role on one's life
>
> if a person is sighted. sighted persons get 70 to 80% knowledge and
> experience of their surroundings through their eyes and in the context of
> blind person the case is totally different. even a person is partially
> blind, he always depend on his/her eyes. Can a blind person appreciate their
>
> colleagues in the office that aaj to aap bahut achhe lag rahe hain? If
> anybody claims it, i can challenge him. i don't believe on idealism, hence,
>
> my comment may not be feel comfortable to my ideal friends. a blind person
> himself make him handsome or beautiful but, can not judge other's
> beauteousness.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Shadab Husain" 
> To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
> concerningthe disabled.'" 
> Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 3:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity arenormelpeople
> intrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>
>
>>A girl in her teens and 20s has a deep and urgent yearning to be praised.
>> We're very well overlooking the fact that though we can't see her, we can
>> listen to her voice, praise her joyful tone, bashfulness, excitement,
>> fear,
>> frankness, suppressed smiles and several expressions felt by the ears.
>> See
>> what perfume she wears and never miss to praise it or gift her the
>> perfume
>> or creams or shampoo you like. Feel her (you know?) the sense of touch
>> and
>> shower praises on her. They're damn flattered if someone praises their
>> hair.
>> How well she cooks, walks (many can make out the way of walking by
>> footsteps: are they light? Heavy? Rapid? Slow?) We can be great admirers
>> of
>> women and can easily flatter them. bring them flowers, chocolates or
>> whatever they're excited about. But never feel that you're substituting
>> for
>> your eyes. Just love your wife and enjoy and overlook her small mistakes
>> and
>> forgive big ones but don't do it because of helplessness.
>>
>> A gent knows how to make his woman happy!
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>> Behalf
>> Of avinash shahi
>> Sent: 29 June 2014 14:04
>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning
>> the disabled.
>> Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople
>> intrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>>
>> Dear Pooha
>>
>> I've got something to say about beauty here. Many of my friends
>> representing
>> different genders on campus everyday are exposed to bodily beauty of
>> varying
>> kinds and get enmeshed for hours.  But when they see me passing by any
>> unknown persons unperturbed, one or the other often asks me Shahi bhai,
>> how
>> do you perceive beauty since you don't know how one does look like? 'What
>> about your sixth sense how does it get activated'? I just cool them by
>> invoking different interpretations of beauty from blind man's perspective.
>>
>> I
>> enlighten them by causing surprise to them. You know how? Beauty lies in
>> cuddling, it is found in one's tongue, it is well-captured from one's
>> sublime personhood consisting of lows-and highs.  They retort back 'come
>> on
>> gentlemen don't be too philosophical. Then the biggest arm starts
>> yearning
>> to be deployed, And I cunningly deploy it. Hello!?
>> Your notion of beauty is racist from its very foundation, its tem

Re: [AI] Functional keys r not working with jaws key

2014-06-29 Thread Suryajyothimetlapalli
Sir,
In jaws settings layout is laptop. It use to work for me before 1 week, since 1 
week its not working either with capslock key or insert key  sir. 

Smiling is  a part of life.
But smiling in all the situations is an art of life.
Thanks and regards,
M.surya jyothi 
CCT, 
SBH.
R C puram.
Hyderabad, AP.
Sent from my iPhone

> On 30-Jun-2014, at 11:03 am, "Sunil Sangtani."  
> wrote:
> 
> do make sure that witch keyboard layout you are using from the jaws
> settings menu.  if its  laptop layout,  the capslock key works as jaws
> key.
> 
>> On 6/30/14, Suryajyothimetlapalli  wrote:
>> Hi access indians,
>> Hope u all r doing good.
>> I am using jaws 15 windows 8.1. Since 1 week my jaws key is not working with
>> function keys. For example insert f1 to f 12. Please guide me how to
>> activate it.
>> 
>> Smiling is a part of life.
>> But smiling in all the situations is an art of life.
>> Thanks and regards,
>> M.surya jyothi
>> CCT,
>> SBH.
>> R C puram.
>> Hyderabad, AP.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
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Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in marryingblindpartners

2014-06-29 Thread Zoher Kheriwala
I remember of my childhood story, I use to get 10 rs. To spent every
day. After buying Panipuri with that money I use to think I should
have bought bhel instead.
The point I want to make that whatever you want to decide for your
marrege  you should be sure that whatever you are choosing should be
best for you and make sure that your partner should also think that
you are the best possible choice. So both of the partners can live
happyly. The relation based on
compromise and pressure may or may not last long, but 1 thing is sure
that, It will not urn happiness to any of them.
In the jurny of life, you should be clear about your expectation from
your partner [the expectation   should be realistic]. When you think
that you have met the right choice, you should speak your
expectations, don't take anything for granted. At the same time be
clear about the partners expectations from you.
Just don't get married to a sited partner to substitute your
blindness. That task can be completed by hiring the employee. Many of
us run behind the sited partner because of social stigma, but we
should remember 1 thing that our spouce is not the thing of
exhibition.
In the end, You and only you are responsible for your decision, and
you have to rip the frute of your decision. So whatever you decide
please decide with at most care from both partners point of view.
Sorry for long mail.


On 6/27/14, Preeti Monga  wrote:
> You don't have to throw anyone  off. But you certainly can use the divorce
> to part ways and begin again!
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> Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in
> marryingblindpartners
>
> also take note that you can't throw this lottery ticket even if you lose
> it!
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Neeraj Singh
> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 9:15 AM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
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> Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in
> marryingblindpartners
>
> vary good example sir. Regards. Neeraj singh music teacher jnv .
> Mobile 09630305273
>
> On 6/27/14, bhawani shankar verma  wrote:
>> nobody can guarantee of a successfull married life. take it like a
>> lottery
>> ticket. If you would get good partner you are luckey, otherwise you will
>> become a philosopher! smile!
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Radha" 
>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerningthe disabled." 
>> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 9:04 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in
>> marryingblind
>>
>> partners
>>
>>
>>> Preeti mam,
>>>
>>> Inspiring words of yours, provoking to fetch a  amazing life partner.
>>> You've  defined the real value of life and  relationship, that we can
>>> trust for our entire life.
>>> I  strongly believe the statements, we get what we give to this
>>> worldin any relationship. It is really awesome to get a  friend as
>>> our life partner and want to hold a  friendly partner.
>>> I  must say, the person who miss you is a  great loser  in his life,
>>> dear mam, isn't it?
>>> Many thanks, indeed, please contribute for our life road path.
>>>
>>> On 6/26/14, Preeti Monga  wrote:
 Interestingly it is irrelevant alright! The only thing is that sighted
 people  are not conditioned to marry us blind people. The idea sounds
 crazy
 to them! And interestingly blind people want only to marry them sighted
 people! This kind of marriage is a marriage of  convenience! But,
 usually
 these kind of marriages do not last... and if they do... they are only
 being
 pulled along because parting ways is not liked  by society! As you may
 know,
 I married twice and both my husbands are sighted! No I don't live with
 them
 both! I had to leave the first one for the compatibility was missing...
 and
 I did not know it till I began to live with him after we were married.
 But
 the second time over, everything in our marriage is  not as it should
 be...
 my husband is ten ye

Re: [AI] I have been admitted to Stanford Business School

2014-06-29 Thread Renuka Warriar Edakkunni
Congratulations and all the best for your success in the future.

Renuka

On 6/29/14, Kartik Sawhney  wrote:
> Hey Apoorv,
>
> Congratulations. I look forward to meeting you and spending some great
> time with you on the farm. Welcome to Stanford!
>
> Best,
>
> On 6/29/14, Apoorv Kulkarni  wrote:
>> Dear all,
>>
>> It gives me great pleasure in informing you all that I have been admitted
>> to
>> the Stanford Graduate School of Business for MBA. My term begins in
>> September 2014, and I will be leaving for USA in second half of August.
>>
>> I feel fortunate to have been offered a spot at this prestigious school,
>> and
>> must thank my parents, teachers and all my guides from the AI community
>> for
>> their support.
>>
>> Thank you all for all your help, support and mentorship
>>
>> Warm regards,
>> Apoorv
>>
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Re: [AI] NVDA keyboard command query

2014-06-29 Thread Him Prasad Gautam
Hi,
Currently, the feature which you are looking exactly as in jaws is not
available in nvda.
In nvda, The reporting of line number is possible if you have made its
report option in yes mode in document formatting. But it will report
every time when it shifts in a new line.
Right now, nvda is capable to either the indicate of line number is
every time without  any require of the user or it will not report the
line number. If you are looking a feature in which you will be
reported when you will ask it to do so, but not in normal operation,
you can file a ticket to incorporate this feature. I am working for
similar types of features in in my personal  nvda.

On 6/30/14, Ashik  wrote:
> I want it to announce "Line fifteen" or something like that.
> Ashik Hirani
> 09428855867
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> concerningthe disabled." 
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> Subject: Re: [AI] NVDA keyboard command query
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>> in nvda also, press normal insert + delete placed at the number pad
>>
>> On 6/29/14, Ashik  wrote:
>>> Dear Friends,
>>>
>>> In JAWS, I would use Insert+Delete to know the line number and the
>>> character
>>> number of the cursor. But I haven't found such a command in NVDA. If
>>> there
>>> is one, please let me know.
>>>
>>> Thanking in advance.
>>>
>>> Ashik Hirani
>>> 09428855867
>>>
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[AI] Notice for nGOs: invitation for tenders to evaluate schemes of Department of Disability Affairs

2014-06-29 Thread avinash shahi
I wonder criterias laid to send quotation makes any NGO eligible
working for blind to submit quotation.
This is one of the biggest draback perhaps...
Anyway last date is July 2nd 5:30 evening IST.
http://socialjustice.nic.in/


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