[AI] HSBC

2014-07-01 Thread George Abraham
This is probably an off topic post. There is someone in the group who works
with hsbc. Would request a contact number off the list at geo...@eyeway.org

 

 

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[AI] Delta-homes.com a browser hijacker

2014-07-01 Thread Surajsingh Jogi Nerul East Branch
Dear list members,
since past few days, I am facing problem with my Internet explorer. Whenever I 
open the same, I am directed to the above-referred site and eventually, my 
browser becomes slow and subsequently, many unwanted sites start popping up.
On searching the web, I found out that this is, "D-H" is a browser hijacker.
Kindly guide me as to how do I get red of this problem.
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Re: [AI] Problem with combo box

2014-07-01 Thread Avichal Bhatnagar
thanks a lot for d info.

On 7/1/14, Hozefa Tambawala  wrote:
> Use ALT+DOWN ARROW instead of ENTER to open Combobox.
>
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>> Hi all,
>> Please clear a doubt of myne.
>> How can we navigate the comboboxes on the web which are jumpy?
>> I mean, there are some comboboxes which have a list which we can
>> easily brouze with jaws from top to bottom, but in some comboboxes, as
>> soon as we reach an item it gets opened.
>> Please guide me on how to handle such comboboxes with jaws?
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Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

2014-07-01 Thread Zoher Kheriwala
In the world we cannot expect every sighted person to get married to a
blind person, even we cannot expect every blind person to get married
to a blind person. Some of us might have rejected the proposal of
sighted person not because of he or she is sighted but many reasons
other vice. Or if we are rejected by sighted person, it might not be
related to our blindness.
Let me have the courage to make the statement, Many of we blind people
have the habit to relate our rejection (not only in marriages but also
in jobs and other sectors) to our blindness, but I am sure that if we
are appealing to the required party then our blindness should not be
of great concern. Yes having some doubt about our work efficiency is
quite natural in the case of sighted partner, this may not be the case
if we are engaged with blind partner. This is the time when we have to
show our ability (not only through talking but also through working).
Marrying to a sighted person or vice versa cannot guaranty of
successful married life. It has very little to do with our blindness.
I have married to a blind girl, We have not accepted each other
because we are blind, blindness is just is a coincidence. Let me put
in other words, My life partner happends to be  a person with
blindness.
When we are in a hunt of life partner, we cannot over estimate the
ability of sighted person and we should not under estimate the ability
of blind partner.


On 7/2/14, Shadab Husain  wrote:
> Hey Bhawani bhai, nice quotes! The key point is that there has to be some
> "self-interest" for both the parties otherwise the friendship will end. A
> person with financial poverty and emotional richness can provide emotional
> support to the emotionally poor but financially rich one and thus can be
> equal in status. Can we apply it on a blind marrying a sighted? Disagree
> with it, but I won't - especially after seeing so many examples on Access
> India.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of bhawani shankar verma
> Sent: 02 July 2014 07:13
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
> normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>
> "Never make friends with people who are above or below you in status. Such
> friendships will never give you any happiness."
>- Chanakya
>
> "There is some self-interest behind every friendship. There is no
> friendship
> without self-interests. This is a bitter truth."
>- Chanakya
>
> both quotations should also be applied regarding partnership. marriage is a
> social partnership between to parties where they have joined each other to
> satisfy their physical and emotional desires.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "aditi shah" 
> To: "accessindia" 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 6:24 PM
> Subject: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
> normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
>
>
>> Hi there everyone,
>> Have been reading this discussion since a few days, so felt like
>> expressing my views as well.
>>
>> We are all humans blind or not, and we have our own set of skills.
>> There might be areas we are extremely good at or there might be areas
>> we cannot do much, in case of us blind it may be because of our
>> disability whereas incase of sighted it might be due to other reasons.
>> According to me, a happy married life demands a set of some basic
>> skills, like understanding, cooking, up bringing of kids, earning,
>> socializing, etc.
>> Again, these basic requirements differ depending on what kind of a
>> lifestyle one has.
>> So, in my view, it does not really matter whether we are marrying a
>> sighted or a blind, what matters is whether our's and our partner's
>> skills can meet those basic requirements or not.
>> Considering this, I disagree from the belief that if a blind has to
>> marry a sighted, he has to make compromises like marrying someone
>> economically or intellectually weaker than us.
>> If a blind who is earning well or is from a well-to-do family or may
>> be is extremely qualified marries a sighted from a weaker economic
>> background or qualification, it is not a compromise as far as both
>> partners together possess the required skills.
>> Even if a blind is marrying a blind, and both of them can manage to do
>> the required things, may be in ways different than the normal world,
>> they can indeed have a successful married life.
>>
>> So, it is not about being blind or sighted, it is always about finding
>> that someone such that with understanding, you can both match up for
>> each other's shortcomings.
>> Life partners are like two pieces of a puzzle, one has to find the
>> other half that fits perfectly, lest we got to spend our entire life
>> filling the gaps.
>>
>> Regards,
>> aditi
>>
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Re: [AI] Accessing graphic calendars online

2014-07-01 Thread Kanchan Pamnani
Good everybody concerned will be parties and we can get a consolidated 
order. I suggest that you add  some reference to the CRPD in case you havent 
already.


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From: "bhawani shankar verma" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning 
thedisabled." 

Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 11:11 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Accessing graphic calendars online


madam! the case was about to be decided on my favour but, IRCTC argued 
that we don't have any control on our web software everything is managed 
by CRIS, center for railways information system. they are only a channel 
between user and server. later it was decided that CRIS and ministry of 
railways, both should be a party on the matter. the hearing notices will 
be sent to both the parties later as per the convenience of the court.



-Original Message- 
From: KanchanPamnani

Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 7:36 AM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled.'

Subject: Re: [AI] Accessing graphic calenders online

There is already one Petition pending in the BombayHigh Court.
Yourmatter is also pending before CCPD- what happened you had a date in
June? Kanchan
-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf

Of bhawani shankar verma
Sent: 02 July 2014 07:26
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Accessing graphic calenders online

we must file a petition on the supreme court against govt of india to make
all their website accessible. why we are searching our own solution,  they
have to make their website accessible. I don't think that any NGO will 
join

us on this matter unless their personal interest involve on the matter.

- Original Message - 
From: "mukesh jain" 

To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled." 
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 10:32 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Accessing graphic calenders online



hello,
EVEN I AM FACING THE SAME DIFFICULTIES ESPECIALLY WHILE BOOKING THE
TICKETS ON IRCTC. nowadays, the interface of the ticket booking on
their site has changed and slowly they are migrating their all
customers including old one on to new intermideiary mechanism. on this
new design, the edit field to enter the data is totally inaccessible
as there use to be the graphic link to popup the calendar just beneath
this date of journey  edit box but this graphical link is no more
available. so I tried reaching to this edit box and after activating
forms mode and routing pc kursor to jaws kursor and pressing control
plus end as suggested earlier on this list does not seems to work at
all.

before these new changes taken place on their site, even the capcha
could be solved with the tools like webvisum with firefox but now even
the capcha is out of the solution with webvisum.

so did  anyone has the solution to choose the date from the calendar
field?
thanks,

On 7/1/14, Ekinath Khedekar  wrote:

Hi,

Has anybody found solution to accessing online calendar dates which
needs to be inserted in the read only edit box?

I am using JAWS 15 32 bit iwht windows 8. Have also installed NVDA,
but to no avail.
Please note that no dates open with links at the bottom of the page
when I click on "graphic calendar link."

Earlier, I was using web IE, an accessible web browser to access these
calenders, but web IE is not getting installed on my machine.

Will be a great cue to save my time.

Thanks
Thank





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Re: [AI] Accessing graphic calendars online

2014-07-01 Thread bhawani shankar verma
madam! the case was about to be decided on my favour but, IRCTC argued that 
we don't have any control on our web software everything is managed by CRIS, 
center for railways information system. they are only a channel between user 
and server. later it was decided that CRIS and ministry of railways, both 
should be a party on the matter. the hearing notices will be sent to both 
the parties later as per the convenience of the court.



-Original Message- 
From: KanchanPamnani

Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 7:36 AM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled.'

Subject: Re: [AI] Accessing graphic calenders online

There is already one Petition pending in the BombayHigh Court.
Yourmatter is also pending before CCPD- what happened you had a date in
June? Kanchan
-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of bhawani shankar verma
Sent: 02 July 2014 07:26
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Accessing graphic calenders online

we must file a petition on the supreme court against govt of india to make
all their website accessible. why we are searching our own solution,  they
have to make their website accessible. I don't think that any NGO will join
us on this matter unless their personal interest involve on the matter.

- Original Message - 
From: "mukesh jain" 

To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled." 
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 10:32 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Accessing graphic calenders online



hello,
EVEN I AM FACING THE SAME DIFFICULTIES ESPECIALLY WHILE BOOKING THE
TICKETS ON IRCTC. nowadays, the interface of the ticket booking on
their site has changed and slowly they are migrating their all
customers including old one on to new intermideiary mechanism. on this
new design, the edit field to enter the data is totally inaccessible
as there use to be the graphic link to popup the calendar just beneath
this date of journey  edit box but this graphical link is no more
available. so I tried reaching to this edit box and after activating
forms mode and routing pc kursor to jaws kursor and pressing control
plus end as suggested earlier on this list does not seems to work at
all.

before these new changes taken place on their site, even the capcha
could be solved with the tools like webvisum with firefox but now even
the capcha is out of the solution with webvisum.

so did  anyone has the solution to choose the date from the calendar
field?
thanks,

On 7/1/14, Ekinath Khedekar  wrote:

Hi,

Has anybody found solution to accessing online calendar dates which
needs to be inserted in the read only edit box?

I am using JAWS 15 32 bit iwht windows 8. Have also installed NVDA,
but to no avail.
Please note that no dates open with links at the bottom of the page
when I click on "graphic calendar link."

Earlier, I was using web IE, an accessible web browser to access these
calenders, but web IE is not getting installed on my machine.

Will be a great cue to save my time.

Thanks
Thank





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Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople interested in marryingblind partners

2014-07-01 Thread bhawani shankar verma

same is applicable on sighted parents.

-Original Message- 
From: Amar Jain

Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 10:30 AM
To: accessindia
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople interested in marryingblind 
partners


My idea of asking was never to convey that all parents who are blind
their children would become criminal.

I just wanted to understand as too how do parents with blindness deal
with such challenges. I have also seen cases where because of
blindness one parent is considered less important in house after a
point of time.

And I have also seen cases where both blind parents have not been able
to give adequate education to their children. But of course, that is
not to say that all do the same.

So if you and others can come out of their instant emotional
reactions, then I can get a proper answer. The idea is not to defame
anyone. Its just to understand the technicalities.

Regards,
--
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Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople interested inmarryingblind partners

2014-07-01 Thread Preeti Monga
Yes, there is a big difference in practicing what you preach! Yes, there is no 
fixed formula for a good marriage, but you need to become open to trying to 
find the things which could work for you in particular. Remember, every human, 
has good and bad points, so you need to work on the relationship. And of 
course, if you have done whatever you can do, and find it is still not working 
out, it is a good idea to opt out gracefully so that you don't spread the  
negative beyond  to infect your complete environment! Try and try again, learn 
from your own experiences and try not to make the same mistakes over again, and 
you will get to the right marriage. But, in all this be careful, we all look 
for faults in the other partner... stop a moment and look at yourself! The 
fault just may lie inside you yourself. So don't  shy away for working on your 
own self and look to improve your own self. Listen to the feedback your partner 
maybe giving you and see if he or she is saying something that you actually may 
need to work on improving upon yourself. For the only person you can  change is 
yourself, and no one else. 
Preeti

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Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 5:33 PM
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disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople interested inmarryingblind 
partners

there is no formula of successful married life and successful marriage. 
even I have found that marriage councellors in mahila police stations are 
facing difficulties in their married life. there is a big difference between 
philosophy and practicle.


-Original Message- 
From: Preeti Monga
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 4:04 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople interested inmarryingblind 
partners

Interestingly there is no argument as to  weather a blind person must marry
a blind person or a non blind person! The idea is to marry successfully, be
happy and cherish the relationship for good! You are not buying vegitables
or furniture; you therefore need to understand
That every human is different and there are no fixed kind of matches one can
prescribe for marrying one or the other! But, yes, as said by many wise
people, "there is nothing more happy and blissful than a good marriage, and
there can be nothing  worse and hellish than a bad  marriage,
incompatibility can lead to living life  in hell"!
The fact that you can see or not is only a small part of the whole thing!
Preeti
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Of bhawani shankar verma
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 3:49 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople interested in marryingblind
partners

majority of married blind persons have a blind partners, so, we can't say
that blind partner would not be a good choice. regarding education and
science, my elder brother and his wife both are blind and their daughter is
studying biology and further preparing for micro biology. hence, this
purpose also defeated. my experience is if the couple is blind and both are
educated, their children becomes brilliant and more disciplined children
then the sighted parents. very low percentage of blind persons have a blind
partners and having successful married life. majority of blind persons who
are having sighted partner are facing difficulties in their married life.
10-12 emails in accessindia group can not r

Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

2014-07-01 Thread Shadab Husain
Hey Bhawani bhai, nice quotes! The key point is that there has to be some
"self-interest" for both the parties otherwise the friendship will end. A
person with financial poverty and emotional richness can provide emotional
support to the emotionally poor but financially rich one and thus can be
equal in status. Can we apply it on a blind marrying a sighted? Disagree
with it, but I won't - especially after seeing so many examples on Access
India.

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Of bhawani shankar verma
Sent: 02 July 2014 07:13
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the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

"Never make friends with people who are above or below you in status. Such
friendships will never give you any happiness."
   - Chanakya

"There is some self-interest behind every friendship. There is no friendship
without self-interests. This is a bitter truth."
   - Chanakya

both quotations should also be applied regarding partnership. marriage is a
social partnership between to parties where they have joined each other to
satisfy their physical and emotional desires.

- Original Message -
From: "aditi shah" 
To: "accessindia" 
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 6:24 PM
Subject: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners


> Hi there everyone,
> Have been reading this discussion since a few days, so felt like 
> expressing my views as well.
>
> We are all humans blind or not, and we have our own set of skills.
> There might be areas we are extremely good at or there might be areas 
> we cannot do much, in case of us blind it may be because of our 
> disability whereas incase of sighted it might be due to other reasons.
> According to me, a happy married life demands a set of some basic 
> skills, like understanding, cooking, up bringing of kids, earning, 
> socializing, etc.
> Again, these basic requirements differ depending on what kind of a 
> lifestyle one has.
> So, in my view, it does not really matter whether we are marrying a 
> sighted or a blind, what matters is whether our's and our partner's 
> skills can meet those basic requirements or not.
> Considering this, I disagree from the belief that if a blind has to 
> marry a sighted, he has to make compromises like marrying someone 
> economically or intellectually weaker than us.
> If a blind who is earning well or is from a well-to-do family or may 
> be is extremely qualified marries a sighted from a weaker economic 
> background or qualification, it is not a compromise as far as both 
> partners together possess the required skills.
> Even if a blind is marrying a blind, and both of them can manage to do 
> the required things, may be in ways different than the normal world, 
> they can indeed have a successful married life.
>
> So, it is not about being blind or sighted, it is always about finding 
> that someone such that with understanding, you can both match up for 
> each other's shortcomings.
> Life partners are like two pieces of a puzzle, one has to find the 
> other half that fits perfectly, lest we got to spend our entire life 
> filling the gaps.
>
> Regards,
> aditi
>
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Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

2014-07-01 Thread Preeti Monga
Dear Aditi,

Very well said! I think it is important to find the right partner, and if
you look hard enough and make the required effort, you will normally be in
luck!
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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of aditi shah
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 6:25 PM
To: accessindia
Subject: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

Hi there everyone,
Have been reading this discussion since a few days, so felt like
expressing my views as well.

We are all humans blind or not, and we have our own set of skills.
There might be areas we are extremely good at or there might be areas
we cannot do much, in case of us blind it may be because of our
disability whereas incase of sighted it might be due to other reasons.
According to me, a happy married life demands a set of some basic
skills, like understanding, cooking, up bringing of kids, earning,
socializing, etc.
Again, these basic requirements differ depending on what kind of a
lifestyle one has.
So, in my view, it does not really matter whether we are marrying a
sighted or a blind, what matters is whether our's and our partner's
skills can meet those basic requirements or not.
Considering this, I disagree from the belief that if a blind has to
marry a sighted, he has to make compromises like marrying someone
economically or intellectually weaker than us.
If a blind who is earning well or is from a well-to-do family or may
be is extremely qualified marries a sighted from a weaker economic
background or qualification, it is not a compromise as far as both
partners together possess the required skills.
Even if a blind is marrying a blind, and both of them can manage to do
the required things, may be in ways different than the normal world,
they can indeed have a successful married life.

So, it is not about being blind or sighted, it is always about finding
that someone such that with understanding, you can both match up for
each other's shortcomings.
Life partners are like two pieces of a puzzle, one has to find the
other half that fits perfectly, lest we got to spend our entire life
filling the gaps.

Regards,
aditi



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Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople interested in marrying blind partners

2014-07-01 Thread Preeti Monga
Please remember the answer that I found, if you have read my last posting,
is "Lead by Example"! If you can diligently do that properly and honestly,
then there is absolutely no problem. Incidentally, I am the blind parent,
and my children even today, know that it is the mom they need to keep in
good humer and all will be well!
So don't worry, children are the true reflection of what  we have made of
them  by setting examples! Usually, we have all the lecturing and correcting
for our children, when in the true sense, we are doing exactly the opposite
in our own actions! Then, we are sending out completely conflicting messages
to them. And mind you, this holds true for even toddlers and very small
children. We feel they don’t understand, but it is the exact opposite!
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Of Amar Jain
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 10:31 AM
To: accessindia
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople interested in marrying
blind partners

My idea of asking was never to convey that all parents who are blind
their children would become criminal.

I just wanted to understand as too how do parents with blindness deal
with such challenges. I have also seen cases where because of
blindness one parent is considered less important in house after a
point of time.

And I have also seen cases where both blind parents have not been able
to give adequate education to their children. But of course, that is
not to say that all do the same.

So if you and others can come out of their instant emotional
reactions, then I can get a proper answer. The idea is not to defame
anyone. Its just to understand the technicalities.

Regards,
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Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople interested in marrying blind partners

2014-07-01 Thread Preeti Monga
Also a good idea I think. But there should a few more thoughts on this one,
like matching values!
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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
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Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 9:32 PM
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Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople interested in marrying
blind partners

Friends

When the issue of compatibility is considered key in creating
conducive climate for couple's career, better professional background
should be given the utmost priority while finding partner. It can work
well in arrange marages, but in love? nothing can be surmised and all
happens at one go. either you swim or you sink... but Ideally, we
blind people should also seek partners from the same professional
background. For example, I'd be glad to live my marital life with
someone who should also belong to academics and preferably from
disability studies. So my disability issues will be taken care of
before hand...
On 7/1/14, Amar Jain  wrote:
> Let me share my thoughts as a growing adult on the issue of sighted vs.
> blind.
>
> Choosing a blind partner: Many of us do have these doubts as to
> whether a blind partner would be better than a sighted partner or not.
>
> To my mind, the difference is in the fact that having a blind partner
> would make things easy to the extent of your understanding of the
> issues concerning the blindness. So, in case of a sighted person you
> may need to work with them for example to not to change the place of
> the things frequently as that may cause a little discomfort in your
> daily work. And the disability related issues will need to be
> explained to him. Which are not required to be done in case of a blind
> partner at that basic level.
>
> But that does not mean that you will have a better compatebility. That
> has got nothing to do with disability per se.
>
> It also depends how well you can play your role in that other
> partner's life. I have seen many blind people arguing for a sighted
> partner just because they think that their challenges of life will be
> over. That type of dependence to my mind is not good for a married
> life. Remember, he is your  companion not a servant or assistant.
>
> Choosing a Sighted: Many sighted do not give a deep thought on the
> issues concerning marrying a blind partner of course when that initial
> resistance of others is over once they decide that they themselves
> have no mental blocks in getting a blind partner. Its only at the
> later stage when people realize that its a lifetime battle as regards
> the answering the society, or anything else for that matter.
>
> At that stage both need to act sensibally. For example, I would never
> like to listen if my wife happens to be sighted at a later stage in
> life that she made a mistake by choosing a blind partner. That can
> only happen if I continue to play my active role, and I am not over
> dependent on her.
>
> The only consequence of having a blind partner which to my mind is
> that how can you as a male partner ensure her safety and security. And
> I am not saying that all blind females who have blind husbands are
> unsafe or unsecured. Its just offering that comfort. And of course
> some additional challenges like teaching your kids subjects like
> Science where you yourself have the weak background, which may need to
> be tackled appropriately.
>
> Now as far as convincing a sighted partner is concerned: First and
> foremost, I am of the opinion that do not try everyone and anyone.
> Spend proper time, and then understand really is it what you are
> looking for? Forget be it blind or sighted.
>
> Second, I quite agree with Rajesh sir and Shadab bhaiya's views of
> being yourself and having your other qualities at its best which can
> then open a window for detailed and deep discussion. Disability
> related challenges need to be discussed not only between the
> individuals but also at the family level to avoid complications if
> any.
>
> If you have a decent earning prospects and a decent life wherein you
> are capable of upbringing your family well, then it is not as big
> problem as we see getting a sighted partner also. Again to emphasise,
> the only important aspect is to discuss the disability related
> challenges at 

Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople interested in marrying blind partners

2014-07-01 Thread Amar Jain
My idea of asking was never to convey that all parents who are blind
their children would become criminal.

I just wanted to understand as too how do parents with blindness deal
with such challenges. I have also seen cases where because of
blindness one parent is considered less important in house after a
point of time.

And I have also seen cases where both blind parents have not been able
to give adequate education to their children. But of course, that is
not to say that all do the same.

So if you and others can come out of their instant emotional
reactions, then I can get a proper answer. The idea is not to defame
anyone. Its just to understand the technicalities.

Regards,
-- 
Amar Jain.
Website: www.amarjain.com



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Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

2014-07-01 Thread Preeti Monga
I think it is about time we all got together and discussed, shared  and
looked at this subject.For once you have worked so very hard to achieve what
you have, what  after that? You go to work come home and then next day you
do the same thing! I think a happy family is something we all must look
forward to. Someone for whom you can live for, someone for whom you can care
for and someone who can be there for you wholeheartedly!
And of course someone who you can fight with as  well!
There are a lot of senior members here who have varied  experiences and I
urge  them to come forward and share all of those  here for the benefit of
those who are young and ready to take the plung?
Of course on 3rd August at the India International Center Delhi, we are
getting together, hopefully disabled and non disabled persons, to further
chat about this subject. It will be lovely to have as many of you there as
possible. Please don't forget to bring with you a non disabled member! 
Do drop me a line of confirmation if you are going to be there with Fusion !
For  any further details, please feel free to call me on 91 9871701646.
 Look forward to hearing from all of you.
Warmly
Preeti

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of aditi bhutani
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 11:51 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeople
intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

I am extremely happy reading all the mails on this thread  as I can
see a vibrant and healthy discussion being conducted with both the
genders and ideologies being well- represented .
Accessindia and other mailing lists have been experiencing such
discussions before but the maturity shown by the members this time I
believe is commendable.

Accessindians deserve a applaud for this. Also, a special admiration
from my side to all the ladies who have voiced their views on the so
called  "NOT TO BE OPENLY DISCUSSED" topic in India.

I believe the first step has been taken by discussing it and the next
step is to start working on our attributes. As mentioned by Preeti
Mam, people in and around Delhi must plan to attend the next Fusion
Meet on August 3,2014. For our friends from rest of India we can
construct similar face to face socializing platforms in all the cities
where disabled and non-disabled hang out together.
Friendships are the most valuable treasures , lets build them.

Regards
Aditi Bhutani
On 7/1/14, aditi shah  wrote:
> Hi there everyone,
> Have been reading this discussion since a few days, so felt like
> expressing my views as well.
>
> We are all humans blind or not, and we have our own set of skills.
> There might be areas we are extremely good at or there might be areas
> we cannot do much, in case of us blind it may be because of our
> disability whereas incase of sighted it might be due to other reasons.
> According to me, a happy married life demands a set of some basic
> skills, like understanding, cooking, up bringing of kids, earning,
> socializing, etc.
> Again, these basic requirements differ depending on what kind of a
> lifestyle one has.
> So, in my view, it does not really matter whether we are marrying a
> sighted or a blind, what matters is whether our's and our partner's
> skills can meet those basic requirements or not.
> Considering this, I disagree from the belief that if a blind has to
> marry a sighted, he has to make compromises like marrying someone
> economically or intellectually weaker than us.
> If a blind who is earning well or is from a well-to-do family or may
> be is extremely qualified marries a sighted from a weaker economic
> background or qualification, it is not a compromise as far as both
> partners together possess the required skills.
> Even if a blind is marrying a blind, and both of them can manage to do
> the required things, may be in ways different than the normal world,
> they can indeed have a successful married life.
>
> So, it is not about being blind or sighted, it is always about finding
> that someone such that with understanding, you can both match up for
> each other's shortcomings.
> Life partners are like two pieces of a puzzle, one has to find the
> other half that fits perfectly, lest we got to spend our entire life
> filling the gaps

[AI] Need scribe guidelines for DOACC computer exam

2014-07-01 Thread Mohib Anwar Rafel
Hey friends DOACC conduct exam for certificate in computer efficiency,
perhaps it is called CCC exam. It is scheduled in first week of July.
Does anybody know the scribe guidelines for a VH candidate.

-- 
Mohib Anwar Rafel
M.Phil 2011, LL.M 2013
Ph.D Candidate, at Jawaharlal Nehru University Delhi, India
Phone: 09811767506,
09211400800/ 926800
Skype: mohibrafel



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Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

2014-07-01 Thread Preeti Monga
I think the correct word is not status but it should be 'values'.
Preeti

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Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 7:13 AM
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Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

"Never make friends with people who are above or below you in status. Such 
friendships will never give you any happiness."
   - Chanakya

"There is some self-interest behind every friendship. There is no friendship

without self-interests. This is a bitter truth."
   - Chanakya

both quotations should also be applied regarding partnership. marriage is a 
social partnership between to parties where they have joined each other to 
satisfy their physical and emotional desires.

- Original Message - 
From: "aditi shah" 
To: "accessindia" 
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 6:24 PM
Subject: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are 
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners


> Hi there everyone,
> Have been reading this discussion since a few days, so felt like
> expressing my views as well.
>
> We are all humans blind or not, and we have our own set of skills.
> There might be areas we are extremely good at or there might be areas
> we cannot do much, in case of us blind it may be because of our
> disability whereas incase of sighted it might be due to other reasons.
> According to me, a happy married life demands a set of some basic
> skills, like understanding, cooking, up bringing of kids, earning,
> socializing, etc.
> Again, these basic requirements differ depending on what kind of a
> lifestyle one has.
> So, in my view, it does not really matter whether we are marrying a
> sighted or a blind, what matters is whether our's and our partner's
> skills can meet those basic requirements or not.
> Considering this, I disagree from the belief that if a blind has to
> marry a sighted, he has to make compromises like marrying someone
> economically or intellectually weaker than us.
> If a blind who is earning well or is from a well-to-do family or may
> be is extremely qualified marries a sighted from a weaker economic
> background or qualification, it is not a compromise as far as both
> partners together possess the required skills.
> Even if a blind is marrying a blind, and both of them can manage to do
> the required things, may be in ways different than the normal world,
> they can indeed have a successful married life.
>
> So, it is not about being blind or sighted, it is always about finding
> that someone such that with understanding, you can both match up for
> each other's shortcomings.
> Life partners are like two pieces of a puzzle, one has to find the
> other half that fits perfectly, lest we got to spend our entire life
> filling the gaps.
>
> Regards,
> aditi
>
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Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople interested in marryingblind partners

2014-07-01 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
I would like to know how blindness contributes to becoming headstrong or 
criminal.
Specifically how does lack of sight  help foster such tendencies, if at all?


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Bhiwani,  I have found in afew cases that sighted children who have blind
parents or even one blind parent, sometimes becomes headstrong, spoilt and
in rare cases acriminal. I know that you wont hear of these because  parents
wont complain to the Authorities  but many seek my advice when it is too
late.
Of course this can happen in so called sighted society.
Kanchan
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Sent: 01 July 2014 17:29
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Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople interested in marryingblind
partners

he can explain it better.
however, I have never found any child has become illiterate, uneducated or
criminal due to the blindness of his or her parents.

-Original Message-
From: Amar Jain
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 4:35 PM
To: accessindia
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople interested in marryingblind

partners

Great example Bhawani sir. How did your brother handle the education part?

I think socialization is also an important factor. Not many blind
people socialize also beyond their community of course. Anyways these
are just my concerns.

Regards,
--
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Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople interested in marryingblind partners

2014-07-01 Thread Preeti Monga
I have 2 sighted children, and when  I divorced my first husband after 11
years of an abusive marriage, everyone warned me that my  children, a
daughter and a son, will go  on the wrong track and become spoilt and
develop all bad habits! I was most concerned but I only kept my belief in
the saying, "lead by example". And I am blessed and delighted to let you
know that both my children have turned out into wonderful adults,
responsible, ethical, sensitive and great citizens! I thank God and everyone
who are responsible for this. They both are now married, independent and my
daughter is a great mother to her 2 children. So, maybe, it is not blindness
that is what is important, but the values that we practice ourselves that
makes our children what they become!
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Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 8:46 AM
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the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople interested in marryingblind
partners

Bhiwani,  I have found in afew cases that sighted children who have blind
parents or even one blind parent, sometimes becomes headstrong, spoilt and
in rare cases acriminal. I know that you wont hear of these because  parents
wont complain to the Authorities  but many seek my advice when it is too
late.
Of course this can happen in so called sighted society. 
Kanchan
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Of bhawani shankar verma
Sent: 01 July 2014 17:29
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople interested in marryingblind
partners

he can explain it better.
however, I have never found any child has become illiterate, uneducated or 
criminal due to the blindness of his or her parents.

-Original Message- 
From: Amar Jain
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 4:35 PM
To: accessindia
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople interested in marryingblind

partners

Great example Bhawani sir. How did your brother handle the education part?

I think socialization is also an important factor. Not many blind
people socialize also beyond their community of course. Anyways these
are just my concerns.

Regards,
-- 
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Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople interested in marryingblind partners

2014-07-01 Thread KanchanPamnani
Bhiwani,  I have found in afew cases that sighted children who have blind
parents or even one blind parent, sometimes becomes headstrong, spoilt and
in rare cases acriminal. I know that you wont hear of these because  parents
wont complain to the Authorities  but many seek my advice when it is too
late.
Of course this can happen in so called sighted society. 
Kanchan
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Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople interested in marryingblind
partners

he can explain it better.
however, I have never found any child has become illiterate, uneducated or 
criminal due to the blindness of his or her parents.

-Original Message- 
From: Amar Jain
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 4:35 PM
To: accessindia
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople interested in marryingblind

partners

Great example Bhawani sir. How did your brother handle the education part?

I think socialization is also an important factor. Not many blind
people socialize also beyond their community of course. Anyways these
are just my concerns.

Regards,
-- 
Amar Jain.
Website: www.amarjain.com



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[AI] hi friends hope all are doing well

2014-07-01 Thread jitesh jain
is their anyone from hyderabad who are in english medium intermediate
secondyear who have english civics commerce sanskrit economics
softcopy of cec group.
Please Friends Urgent Help

Phone:8686067821

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Re: [AI] Accessing graphic calenders online

2014-07-01 Thread KanchanPamnani
There is already one Petition pending in the BombayHigh Court. 
Yourmatter is also pending before CCPD- what happened you had a date in
June? Kanchan 
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Subject: Re: [AI] Accessing graphic calenders online

we must file a petition on the supreme court against govt of india to make 
all their website accessible. why we are searching our own solution,  they 
have to make their website accessible. I don't think that any NGO will join 
us on this matter unless their personal interest involve on the matter.

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Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 10:32 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Accessing graphic calenders online


> hello,
> EVEN I AM FACING THE SAME DIFFICULTIES ESPECIALLY WHILE BOOKING THE
> TICKETS ON IRCTC. nowadays, the interface of the ticket booking on
> their site has changed and slowly they are migrating their all
> customers including old one on to new intermideiary mechanism. on this
> new design, the edit field to enter the data is totally inaccessible
> as there use to be the graphic link to popup the calendar just beneath
> this date of journey  edit box but this graphical link is no more
> available. so I tried reaching to this edit box and after activating
> forms mode and routing pc kursor to jaws kursor and pressing control
> plus end as suggested earlier on this list does not seems to work at
> all.
>
> before these new changes taken place on their site, even the capcha
> could be solved with the tools like webvisum with firefox but now even
> the capcha is out of the solution with webvisum.
>
> so did  anyone has the solution to choose the date from the calendar 
> field?
> thanks,
>
> On 7/1/14, Ekinath Khedekar  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Has anybody found solution to accessing online calendar dates which
>> needs to be inserted in the read only edit box?
>>
>> I am using JAWS 15 32 bit iwht windows 8. Have also installed NVDA,
>> but to no avail.
>> Please note that no dates open with links at the bottom of the page
>> when I click on "graphic calendar link."
>>
>> Earlier, I was using web IE, an accessible web browser to access these
>> calenders, but web IE is not getting installed on my machine.
>>
>> Will be a great cue to save my time.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Thank
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> --- --- ---
>>
>> "The waves breaking on the surface draw all the attention,
>> But it is the current beneath the water that determines your 
>> direction..."
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Re: [AI] How to Remove Tables in Office 7?

2014-07-01 Thread bhawani shankar verma

go to layout ribben you will find all the options their.
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Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 6:26 PM
Subject: [AI] How to Remove Tables in Office 7?



Dear Friends, as the subject line says, I am having word documents
containing many tables, which I want to remove.

I am using Windows 7/office 7. I  am not able to locate the option
"convert tables into text" or similar to it, like which we do in
office 2003.

So please suggest that how to solve this problem!

--
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Re: [AI] Accessing graphic calenders online

2014-07-01 Thread bhawani shankar verma
we must file a petition on the supreme court against govt of india to make 
all their website accessible. why we are searching our own solution,  they 
have to make their website accessible. I don't think that any NGO will join 
us on this matter unless their personal interest involve on the matter.


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From: "mukesh jain" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled." 

Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 10:32 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Accessing graphic calenders online



hello,
EVEN I AM FACING THE SAME DIFFICULTIES ESPECIALLY WHILE BOOKING THE
TICKETS ON IRCTC. nowadays, the interface of the ticket booking on
their site has changed and slowly they are migrating their all
customers including old one on to new intermideiary mechanism. on this
new design, the edit field to enter the data is totally inaccessible
as there use to be the graphic link to popup the calendar just beneath
this date of journey  edit box but this graphical link is no more
available. so I tried reaching to this edit box and after activating
forms mode and routing pc kursor to jaws kursor and pressing control
plus end as suggested earlier on this list does not seems to work at
all.

before these new changes taken place on their site, even the capcha
could be solved with the tools like webvisum with firefox but now even
the capcha is out of the solution with webvisum.

so did  anyone has the solution to choose the date from the calendar 
field?

thanks,

On 7/1/14, Ekinath Khedekar  wrote:

Hi,

Has anybody found solution to accessing online calendar dates which
needs to be inserted in the read only edit box?

I am using JAWS 15 32 bit iwht windows 8. Have also installed NVDA,
but to no avail.
Please note that no dates open with links at the bottom of the page
when I click on "graphic calendar link."

Earlier, I was using web IE, an accessible web browser to access these
calenders, but web IE is not getting installed on my machine.

Will be a great cue to save my time.

Thanks
Thank





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Re: [AI] About DTH.

2014-07-01 Thread surendra salgaonkar
Dear ones, I am back again,
1. Videocone TV has one model with own DTH in inside, do you know its
model number?
Secondly, can anyone provide list of channal?


On 3/16/14, Shivadas Mattanur  wrote:
> In a mobile  we can listen to only the nearest channels sir.
> Heartfelt grattitudes&greetings,-Original message-
> From: gufran ahmed
> Sent:  16/03/2014, 10:01  am
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
>   the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] About DTH.
>
>
> as major stations are available on a mobile, then no need.
>
> On 3/16/14, bhawani shankar verma  wrote:
>> yes, you can connect your home theater, if your set top box has a
>> separate
>> audio output. or you can connect the audio input jack to your home
>> theater,
>>
>> but, in this case the audio will not come to your tv only video input
>> will
>> work. once you have connected your home theater with settop box you
>> should
>> not open the volume of your tv set, because in the long run this will
>> effect
>>
>> the audio output system of your tv set. I always prefer dish tv or dd
>> direct
>>
>> because i am fond of listening akashvani.
>> there is no accessible set top box in the market. while purchasing set
>> top
>> box, prefer the remote control which haves numpad like telephone or
>> calculator by which you can type the number of desired channel and
>> directly
>>
>> jump to it. for this you have to memorise the name of station and its
>> number.
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "surendra salgaonkar" 
>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerningthe disabled." 
>> Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 5:58 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] About DTH.
>>
>>
>>> Before purchase,
>>> 1. If I have home theater with surround sound, can I enjoy with it?
>>> Because I have philips home theater systom with tremendous voice
>>> qualitys, can I listen to all my music channel, with off TV?
>>>
>>>
>>> 2. Is there any set of box blind friendly?
>>> 3. Is there anyone using videocon d2h? Because I heard they are giving
>>> more...what? I do not know.
>>>
>>> 4. If I take one year subscriptions do they give me the rebate?
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/15/14, Dr.B.S.M.Kumar  wrote:
 Dear Surenndar,
 I fully agree with Ahmed, as I am using airtel DTH services & I am not
 facing any problem except the one mentioned by Ahmed. so you can go
 airtel
 DTH..  In case you have any queries pls contact me on at 09840139849.
 With warm regards
 Dr.B.S.M.Ku
 mar



 On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 9:50 PM, Shivadas Mattanur
 wrote:

> Being a blind why dont u can  use listen through an aditional  home
> theatre?
> Heartfelt grattitudes&greetings,-Original message-
> From: gufran ahmed
> Sent:  15/03/2014, 7:56  pm
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
> concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] About DTH.
>
>
> same was available on airtel. but now it has been removed. ofcource
> people is not willing to listen radio channels on tv. as the tv screen
> is blank.
>
> On 3/15/14, P. Subramani  wrote:
> > Re: [AI] About DTH.what AIR channels do we get on dish tv? also do
> > we
> get to
> > listen to private FM channels  as well?
> > - Original Message -
> > From: bhawani shankar verma
> > To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and
> > issuesconcerning
> > thedisabled.
> > Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 7:24 AM
> > Subject: Re: [AI] About DTH.
> >
> >
> > if you want to listen stations of akashvani all india radio then
> > dish
> > tv
> is
> > a good option for you. dish tv is a paid service. however, you can
> purchase
> > dth for doordarshan (dd direct) it is totally free, but, you can't
> > access
> > some popular paid channels.
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "surendra salgaonkar" 
> > To: "? ?" 
> > Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 5:52 AM
> > Subject: Re: [AI] About DTH.
> >
> >
> >> Please reply to my mail?
> >>
> >> On 3/13/14, surendra salgaonkar 
> >> wrote:
> >>> Dear ones,
> >>>  Now a days I am fed up of cableTV and want to switch over to DTH.
> >>> Now
> >>> you experts tel me wich one is the best of all the expectations
> >>> and
> >>> fulfilments. Wich one is giving more channals. If you can give
> >>> list
> >>> to
> >>> my PID will be more appreciable.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Thank you and good luck!
> >>> Surendra Salgaonkar
> >>> Phone:02226473918
> >>> +919867645933
> >>> Emails
> >>> salgaonkarconce...@rediffmail.com
> >>> office
> >>> surendra.salgaon...@sbi.co.in
> >>> skype
> >>> salgaonkarskype
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Thank you and good luck!

Re: [AI] About DTH.

2014-07-01 Thread surendra salgaonkar
Dear ones, I am back again,
1. Videocone TV has one model with own DTH in inside, do you know its
model number?
Secondly, can anyone provide list of channal?


On 3/16/14, Shivadas Mattanur  wrote:
> In a mobile  we can listen to only the nearest channels sir.
> Heartfelt grattitudes&greetings,-Original message-
> From: gufran ahmed
> Sent:  16/03/2014, 10:01  am
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
>   the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] About DTH.
>
>
> as major stations are available on a mobile, then no need.
>
> On 3/16/14, bhawani shankar verma  wrote:
>> yes, you can connect your home theater, if your set top box has a
>> separate
>> audio output. or you can connect the audio input jack to your home
>> theater,
>>
>> but, in this case the audio will not come to your tv only video input
>> will
>> work. once you have connected your home theater with settop box you
>> should
>> not open the volume of your tv set, because in the long run this will
>> effect
>>
>> the audio output system of your tv set. I always prefer dish tv or dd
>> direct
>>
>> because i am fond of listening akashvani.
>> there is no accessible set top box in the market. while purchasing set
>> top
>> box, prefer the remote control which haves numpad like telephone or
>> calculator by which you can type the number of desired channel and
>> directly
>>
>> jump to it. for this you have to memorise the name of station and its
>> number.
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "surendra salgaonkar" 
>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerningthe disabled." 
>> Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 5:58 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] About DTH.
>>
>>
>>> Before purchase,
>>> 1. If I have home theater with surround sound, can I enjoy with it?
>>> Because I have philips home theater systom with tremendous voice
>>> qualitys, can I listen to all my music channel, with off TV?
>>>
>>>
>>> 2. Is there any set of box blind friendly?
>>> 3. Is there anyone using videocon d2h? Because I heard they are giving
>>> more...what? I do not know.
>>>
>>> 4. If I take one year subscriptions do they give me the rebate?
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/15/14, Dr.B.S.M.Kumar  wrote:
 Dear Surenndar,
 I fully agree with Ahmed, as I am using airtel DTH services & I am not
 facing any problem except the one mentioned by Ahmed. so you can go
 airtel
 DTH..  In case you have any queries pls contact me on at 09840139849.
 With warm regards
 Dr.B.S.M.Ku
 mar



 On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 9:50 PM, Shivadas Mattanur
 wrote:

> Being a blind why dont u can  use listen through an aditional  home
> theatre?
> Heartfelt grattitudes&greetings,-Original message-
> From: gufran ahmed
> Sent:  15/03/2014, 7:56  pm
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
> concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] About DTH.
>
>
> same was available on airtel. but now it has been removed. ofcource
> people is not willing to listen radio channels on tv. as the tv screen
> is blank.
>
> On 3/15/14, P. Subramani  wrote:
> > Re: [AI] About DTH.what AIR channels do we get on dish tv? also do
> > we
> get to
> > listen to private FM channels  as well?
> > - Original Message -
> > From: bhawani shankar verma
> > To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and
> > issuesconcerning
> > thedisabled.
> > Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 7:24 AM
> > Subject: Re: [AI] About DTH.
> >
> >
> > if you want to listen stations of akashvani all india radio then
> > dish
> > tv
> is
> > a good option for you. dish tv is a paid service. however, you can
> purchase
> > dth for doordarshan (dd direct) it is totally free, but, you can't
> > access
> > some popular paid channels.
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "surendra salgaonkar" 
> > To: "? ?" 
> > Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 5:52 AM
> > Subject: Re: [AI] About DTH.
> >
> >
> >> Please reply to my mail?
> >>
> >> On 3/13/14, surendra salgaonkar 
> >> wrote:
> >>> Dear ones,
> >>>  Now a days I am fed up of cableTV and want to switch over to DTH.
> >>> Now
> >>> you experts tel me wich one is the best of all the expectations
> >>> and
> >>> fulfilments. Wich one is giving more channals. If you can give
> >>> list
> >>> to
> >>> my PID will be more appreciable.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Thank you and good luck!
> >>> Surendra Salgaonkar
> >>> Phone:02226473918
> >>> +919867645933
> >>> Emails
> >>> salgaonkarconce...@rediffmail.com
> >>> office
> >>> surendra.salgaon...@sbi.co.in
> >>> skype
> >>> salgaonkarskype
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Thank you and good luck!

Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

2014-07-01 Thread bhawani shankar verma
congratulation dear, being a sighted person you have decided to marry a 
blind girl. It is rarely found that a sighted person married a blind girl 
and you are one of them.
I have raised 2 points in my previous messages and you have fullfilled one 
of them. as you were in love before your marriage.


- Original Message - 
From: "Muthu Raj" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled." 

Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 8:01 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are 
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners




Hi friends,
Greetings from sighted husband and visually impaired house wife and of
course sighted toddler- baby boy born to them,
jeevan - the sighted baby swarna - totally blind,  but completely
independent house wife and a loving mother of 2 kids (me and my son)

I fell in love with swarna when she was interning with enable India and I
was working here, BTW still working :-)  our relationship started as
student teacher then blossomed into friendship then into love, like any
other love story we too had opposition from parents, but our love was
strong enough to convince and control our parents into getting us married
with mutual consent from our both parents BTW this this august will be our
fifth wedding anniversary.

love is blind after all, it does see any disability :-)

Cheers from jsm family
On 1 Jul 2014 05:44, "nikita vaid"  wrote:


Hi all,
I have been reading this discussion on and off on the move but could
finally now get time to share some of my spontaneous thoughts.

I would only like to share some of my personal experience as a born
blind individual and as a wife  of a sighted person.
I have been married 3 years now it was a love but more like an arrange
marriage. Trust me its no big deal when a blind person getting married
to a sighted person. What is more important here is that how the blind
person makes his/ her sighted counterpart very comfortable. I am very
particular about all the work, house hold responsibility my duty
towards my husband and the entire family just as any other sighted
laidy is suppose to be. I always ensured that I workout the
alternative ways/ arrangements by which my husband should never feel
that his wife is any different person and that he is require to take
up more responsibility . Its important for a couple to work on
captalising  upon each other's strengths

To tell you frankly, though I cannot see, but majority  of the small
fights/ nok jhoks between me and my husband is pertaining to keeping
the house clean, keeping all the things up to date, including his upto
dateness in terms of his dressing where I keep on telling ye thik nahi
hai and ye thik hai. Some time he jokeingly asks me also "tumhe dikta
nahi hai ese mujhe nahi lagta

Its important that we as blind person are adequately confident about
our selves and having this attitude of " blind hai toh kaya hua"
really helps.
In my family, both maiden side as well as in the inlaws side, I am
taken as an example for the way I manage my house and also dress up my
self. Bhawani ji was mentioning here that we as blind person cannot
complement other on their dressing etc. but trust me its not
difficult. If you can't complement on a person's - a color of the
dress, may be u could complement on her perfume, her handback, jwelry
etc if you are able to touch it. 1 very honest trik that I use is if
say in my office 1 person is getting complements from other for her
looks or dress, from others, I also go up to her and tell her that "
mam I am feeling good and happy that a lot of people are complementing
you today I am sure u r looking good, can u describe the color of your
 dress to me if you don't mind," I am sure this is suiting you very
much.

There are ways to do so.  And by and large people also realize that it
may not always be possible for you being blind to complement them
always.
Many a times, just by touching, I tell my mother in-law. "mummy this
saree is good or this saree is not as good as your that saree so you
change it.
And to tell you, when ever my husband is going for an important
meeting or occasion, its me who actually choose  his clothes from the
cubbord

He also understands me but empathizes rather than sympathizing with me.
One important thing I feel that we as blind individuals must be very
rigid about and ensure that in no situation our sighted counter part
should be under this impression that he has done a "social obligation,
or a great favor" by marrying   a blind person. Trust me if we are
really confident and free from all fears, we are just no different and
the opposite person has to understand this else he / she does not
deserves us.
I will keep on sharing my thoughts in this discussion no on.

Thanks and warm Regards,
Nikita V. Raut,
Senior Manager [HR]
Baroda Corporate Center, Bank of Baroda,


On 7/1/14, Preeti Monga  wrote:
> These days very few young people look for permission to marry! So there

is

> nothing much you can do if you

Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

2014-07-01 Thread bhawani shankar verma
"Never make friends with people who are above or below you in status. Such 
friendships will never give you any happiness."

  - Chanakya

"There is some self-interest behind every friendship. There is no friendship 
without self-interests. This is a bitter truth."

  - Chanakya

both quotations should also be applied regarding partnership. marriage is a 
social partnership between to parties where they have joined each other to 
satisfy their physical and emotional desires.


- Original Message - 
From: "aditi shah" 

To: "accessindia" 
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 6:24 PM
Subject: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are 
normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners




Hi there everyone,
Have been reading this discussion since a few days, so felt like
expressing my views as well.

We are all humans blind or not, and we have our own set of skills.
There might be areas we are extremely good at or there might be areas
we cannot do much, in case of us blind it may be because of our
disability whereas incase of sighted it might be due to other reasons.
According to me, a happy married life demands a set of some basic
skills, like understanding, cooking, up bringing of kids, earning,
socializing, etc.
Again, these basic requirements differ depending on what kind of a
lifestyle one has.
So, in my view, it does not really matter whether we are marrying a
sighted or a blind, what matters is whether our's and our partner's
skills can meet those basic requirements or not.
Considering this, I disagree from the belief that if a blind has to
marry a sighted, he has to make compromises like marrying someone
economically or intellectually weaker than us.
If a blind who is earning well or is from a well-to-do family or may
be is extremely qualified marries a sighted from a weaker economic
background or qualification, it is not a compromise as far as both
partners together possess the required skills.
Even if a blind is marrying a blind, and both of them can manage to do
the required things, may be in ways different than the normal world,
they can indeed have a successful married life.

So, it is not about being blind or sighted, it is always about finding
that someone such that with understanding, you can both match up for
each other's shortcomings.
Life partners are like two pieces of a puzzle, one has to find the
other half that fits perfectly, lest we got to spend our entire life
filling the gaps.

Regards,
aditi



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Re: [AI] About DTH.

2014-07-01 Thread surendra salgaonkar
Dear ones, I am back again,
1. Videocone TV has one model with own DTH in inside, do you know its
model number?
Secondly, can anyone provide list of channal?


On 3/16/14, Shivadas Mattanur  wrote:
> In a mobile  we can listen to only the nearest channels sir.
> Heartfelt grattitudes&greetings,-Original message-
> From: gufran ahmed
> Sent:  16/03/2014, 10:01  am
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
>   the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] About DTH.
>
>
> as major stations are available on a mobile, then no need.
>
> On 3/16/14, bhawani shankar verma  wrote:
>> yes, you can connect your home theater, if your set top box has a
>> separate
>> audio output. or you can connect the audio input jack to your home
>> theater,
>>
>> but, in this case the audio will not come to your tv only video input
>> will
>> work. once you have connected your home theater with settop box you
>> should
>> not open the volume of your tv set, because in the long run this will
>> effect
>>
>> the audio output system of your tv set. I always prefer dish tv or dd
>> direct
>>
>> because i am fond of listening akashvani.
>> there is no accessible set top box in the market. while purchasing set
>> top
>> box, prefer the remote control which haves numpad like telephone or
>> calculator by which you can type the number of desired channel and
>> directly
>>
>> jump to it. for this you have to memorise the name of station and its
>> number.
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "surendra salgaonkar" 
>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerningthe disabled." 
>> Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 5:58 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] About DTH.
>>
>>
>>> Before purchase,
>>> 1. If I have home theater with surround sound, can I enjoy with it?
>>> Because I have philips home theater systom with tremendous voice
>>> qualitys, can I listen to all my music channel, with off TV?
>>>
>>>
>>> 2. Is there any set of box blind friendly?
>>> 3. Is there anyone using videocon d2h? Because I heard they are giving
>>> more...what? I do not know.
>>>
>>> 4. If I take one year subscriptions do they give me the rebate?
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/15/14, Dr.B.S.M.Kumar  wrote:
 Dear Surenndar,
 I fully agree with Ahmed, as I am using airtel DTH services & I am not
 facing any problem except the one mentioned by Ahmed. so you can go
 airtel
 DTH..  In case you have any queries pls contact me on at 09840139849.
 With warm regards
 Dr.B.S.M.Ku
 mar



 On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 9:50 PM, Shivadas Mattanur
 wrote:

> Being a blind why dont u can  use listen through an aditional  home
> theatre?
> Heartfelt grattitudes&greetings,-Original message-
> From: gufran ahmed
> Sent:  15/03/2014, 7:56  pm
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
> concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] About DTH.
>
>
> same was available on airtel. but now it has been removed. ofcource
> people is not willing to listen radio channels on tv. as the tv screen
> is blank.
>
> On 3/15/14, P. Subramani  wrote:
> > Re: [AI] About DTH.what AIR channels do we get on dish tv? also do
> > we
> get to
> > listen to private FM channels  as well?
> > - Original Message -
> > From: bhawani shankar verma
> > To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and
> > issuesconcerning
> > thedisabled.
> > Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 7:24 AM
> > Subject: Re: [AI] About DTH.
> >
> >
> > if you want to listen stations of akashvani all india radio then
> > dish
> > tv
> is
> > a good option for you. dish tv is a paid service. however, you can
> purchase
> > dth for doordarshan (dd direct) it is totally free, but, you can't
> > access
> > some popular paid channels.
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "surendra salgaonkar" 
> > To: "? ?" 
> > Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 5:52 AM
> > Subject: Re: [AI] About DTH.
> >
> >
> >> Please reply to my mail?
> >>
> >> On 3/13/14, surendra salgaonkar 
> >> wrote:
> >>> Dear ones,
> >>>  Now a days I am fed up of cableTV and want to switch over to DTH.
> >>> Now
> >>> you experts tel me wich one is the best of all the expectations
> >>> and
> >>> fulfilments. Wich one is giving more channals. If you can give
> >>> list
> >>> to
> >>> my PID will be more appreciable.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Thank you and good luck!
> >>> Surendra Salgaonkar
> >>> Phone:02226473918
> >>> +919867645933
> >>> Emails
> >>> salgaonkarconce...@rediffmail.com
> >>> office
> >>> surendra.salgaon...@sbi.co.in
> >>> skype
> >>> salgaonkarskype
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Thank you and good luck!

Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

2014-07-01 Thread aditi bhutani
I am extremely happy reading all the mails on this thread  as I can
see a vibrant and healthy discussion being conducted with both the
genders and ideologies being well- represented .
Accessindia and other mailing lists have been experiencing such
discussions before but the maturity shown by the members this time I
believe is commendable.

Accessindians deserve a applaud for this. Also, a special admiration
from my side to all the ladies who have voiced their views on the so
called  "NOT TO BE OPENLY DISCUSSED" topic in India.

I believe the first step has been taken by discussing it and the next
step is to start working on our attributes. As mentioned by Preeti
Mam, people in and around Delhi must plan to attend the next Fusion
Meet on August 3,2014. For our friends from rest of India we can
construct similar face to face socializing platforms in all the cities
where disabled and non-disabled hang out together.
Friendships are the most valuable treasures , lets build them.

Regards
Aditi Bhutani
On 7/1/14, aditi shah  wrote:
> Hi there everyone,
> Have been reading this discussion since a few days, so felt like
> expressing my views as well.
>
> We are all humans blind or not, and we have our own set of skills.
> There might be areas we are extremely good at or there might be areas
> we cannot do much, in case of us blind it may be because of our
> disability whereas incase of sighted it might be due to other reasons.
> According to me, a happy married life demands a set of some basic
> skills, like understanding, cooking, up bringing of kids, earning,
> socializing, etc.
> Again, these basic requirements differ depending on what kind of a
> lifestyle one has.
> So, in my view, it does not really matter whether we are marrying a
> sighted or a blind, what matters is whether our's and our partner's
> skills can meet those basic requirements or not.
> Considering this, I disagree from the belief that if a blind has to
> marry a sighted, he has to make compromises like marrying someone
> economically or intellectually weaker than us.
> If a blind who is earning well or is from a well-to-do family or may
> be is extremely qualified marries a sighted from a weaker economic
> background or qualification, it is not a compromise as far as both
> partners together possess the required skills.
> Even if a blind is marrying a blind, and both of them can manage to do
> the required things, may be in ways different than the normal world,
> they can indeed have a successful married life.
>
> So, it is not about being blind or sighted, it is always about finding
> that someone such that with understanding, you can both match up for
> each other's shortcomings.
> Life partners are like two pieces of a puzzle, one has to find the
> other half that fits perfectly, lest we got to spend our entire life
> filling the gaps.
>
> Regards,
> aditi
>
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Re: [AI] Doubt on NVDA

2014-07-01 Thread Bhavya shah
Hi.
What other PDF readers are accessible apart from Adobe Acrobat Reader?

On 6/29/14, Him Prasad Gautam  wrote:
> Hi,
> Definitely nvda is capable to access pdf format documents.
> However, the text of the used language must be supported by the active TTS.
> Similarly if the text belongs to an Indian regional languages written
> in traditional ANSI encoding (i.e. non-unicode); then it is
> inaccessible. This inaccessibility is not from nvda but from the
> synthesizer in use.
> For English or Unicode encoding text of Indian origin, there is no problem.
>
>  like Bengali or Panjabi
>
> On 6/29/14, Aravind  wrote:
>> hallow access Indians does nvda read's p d f document
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Him Prasad Gautam
>> Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 10:27 AM
>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerningthe disabled.
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Doubt on NVDA
>>
>> Hi,
>> To know the short cut keys of nvda, read the file keycommands.html.
>> This file can be accessed by nvda menu > help menu> nvda command
>> reference.
>> In many cases, the shortcut key for desktop and laptop does not differ.
>> But in some cases they differ. This file gives all commands of
>> desktop, laptop and touch screen.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 6/28/14, Riju Saimon  wrote:
>>> Dear All, Thankyou very much.
>>>
>>> On 28/06/2014, Ashik  wrote:
 Dear Bhavya Shah,

 You are right. Actually, in a laptop, the Capslock key works as NVDA
 key.
 Whereas in a desktop, the Insert key works as the NVDA key.
 That's the only difference.
 Ashik Hirani
 09428855867
 - Original Message -
 From: "Bhavya shah" 
 To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerningthe disabled." 
 Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2014 11:59 AM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Doubt on NVDA


> Press NVD + 3 to toggle on and off the speaking of typed words. I am
> using the laptop keyboard layout in NVDA 2014.2 so the shortcut for
> you might differ.
> Alternatively, in the NVDA menu > Preferences submenu > Keyboard
> Settings you will find a check box to do the same.
>
> On 6/27/14, Ashik  wrote:
>> If the Keyboard setting is set to "letters and words".
>> Ashik Hirani
>> 09428855867
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Riju Saimon" 
>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerningthe disabled." 
>> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 8:00 PM
>> Subject: [AI] Doubt on NVDA
>>
>>
>>> Dear All, Hope you are doing well.  How can we listen the text in
>>> the
>>> edit box while typing in it?
>>> Regards, Riju Saimon
>>>
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Re: [AI] Accessing graphic calenders online

2014-07-01 Thread mukesh jain
hello,
EVEN I AM FACING THE SAME DIFFICULTIES ESPECIALLY WHILE BOOKING THE
TICKETS ON IRCTC. nowadays, the interface of the ticket booking on
their site has changed and slowly they are migrating their all
customers including old one on to new intermideiary mechanism. on this
new design, the edit field to enter the data is totally inaccessible
as there use to be the graphic link to popup the calendar just beneath
this date of journey  edit box but this graphical link is no more
available. so I tried reaching to this edit box and after activating
forms mode and routing pc kursor to jaws kursor and pressing control
plus end as suggested earlier on this list does not seems to work at
all.

before these new changes taken place on their site, even the capcha
could be solved with the tools like webvisum with firefox but now even
the capcha is out of the solution with webvisum.

so did  anyone has the solution to choose the date from the calendar field?
thanks,

On 7/1/14, Ekinath Khedekar  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Has anybody found solution to accessing online calendar dates which
> needs to be inserted in the read only edit box?
>
> I am using JAWS 15 32 bit iwht windows 8. Have also installed NVDA,
> but to no avail.
> Please note that no dates open with links at the bottom of the page
> when I click on "graphic calendar link."
>
> Earlier, I was using web IE, an accessible web browser to access these
> calenders, but web IE is not getting installed on my machine.
>
> Will be a great cue to save my time.
>
> Thanks
> Thank
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [AI] Guest blog from Shadab Husain

2014-07-01 Thread Shadab Husain
I'm so glad Mujeeb that you appreciated it. I'll write more in some weeks.
If it has helped you, please share it with others - maybe someone else too
would be in need of it.

Your friend

Shadab


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Mujeeb Rahman
Sent: 30 June 2014 16:00
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Guest blog from Shadab Husain

Thanks to Eyeway and Shadab on sharing this write of a serious matter.
Being a similar one, it would have a big lost for me if I couldn't read it.
Please do write more.

On 6/29/14, Shadab Husain  wrote:
> Thanks a million for posting it yourself and appreciating it!
>
> http://www.eyeway.org/?q=why-you-aren%E2%80%99t-living-you-want
>
> Inviting comments both of criticism and admirations. Am at your 
> target:)
>
> http://www.eyeway.org/?q=why-you-aren%E2%80%99t-living-you-want
>
> www.PersonalityAndEnglish.blogspot.in
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
> Behalf Of George Abraham
> Sent: 11 June 2014 15:15
> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
> concerning the disabled.'
> Subject: [AI] Guest blog from Shadab Husain
>
> The Latest Blogpost from Eyeway is up!
> http://www.eyeway.org/?q=why-you-aren%E2%80%99t-living-you-want
>
>
>
> Yes, it is a neat post from Shadab Husain. Read and enjoy!
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> George
>
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Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople interested in marrying blind partners

2014-07-01 Thread avinash shahi
Friends

When the issue of compatibility is considered key in creating
conducive climate for couple's career, better professional background
should be given the utmost priority while finding partner. It can work
well in arrange marages, but in love? nothing can be surmised and all
happens at one go. either you swim or you sink... but Ideally, we
blind people should also seek partners from the same professional
background. For example, I'd be glad to live my marital life with
someone who should also belong to academics and preferably from
disability studies. So my disability issues will be taken care of
before hand...
On 7/1/14, Amar Jain  wrote:
> Let me share my thoughts as a growing adult on the issue of sighted vs.
> blind.
>
> Choosing a blind partner: Many of us do have these doubts as to
> whether a blind partner would be better than a sighted partner or not.
>
> To my mind, the difference is in the fact that having a blind partner
> would make things easy to the extent of your understanding of the
> issues concerning the blindness. So, in case of a sighted person you
> may need to work with them for example to not to change the place of
> the things frequently as that may cause a little discomfort in your
> daily work. And the disability related issues will need to be
> explained to him. Which are not required to be done in case of a blind
> partner at that basic level.
>
> But that does not mean that you will have a better compatebility. That
> has got nothing to do with disability per se.
>
> It also depends how well you can play your role in that other
> partner's life. I have seen many blind people arguing for a sighted
> partner just because they think that their challenges of life will be
> over. That type of dependence to my mind is not good for a married
> life. Remember, he is your  companion not a servant or assistant.
>
> Choosing a Sighted: Many sighted do not give a deep thought on the
> issues concerning marrying a blind partner of course when that initial
> resistance of others is over once they decide that they themselves
> have no mental blocks in getting a blind partner. Its only at the
> later stage when people realize that its a lifetime battle as regards
> the answering the society, or anything else for that matter.
>
> At that stage both need to act sensibally. For example, I would never
> like to listen if my wife happens to be sighted at a later stage in
> life that she made a mistake by choosing a blind partner. That can
> only happen if I continue to play my active role, and I am not over
> dependent on her.
>
> The only consequence of having a blind partner which to my mind is
> that how can you as a male partner ensure her safety and security. And
> I am not saying that all blind females who have blind husbands are
> unsafe or unsecured. Its just offering that comfort. And of course
> some additional challenges like teaching your kids subjects like
> Science where you yourself have the weak background, which may need to
> be tackled appropriately.
>
> Now as far as convincing a sighted partner is concerned: First and
> foremost, I am of the opinion that do not try everyone and anyone.
> Spend proper time, and then understand really is it what you are
> looking for? Forget be it blind or sighted.
>
> Second, I quite agree with Rajesh sir and Shadab bhaiya's views of
> being yourself and having your other qualities at its best which can
> then open a window for detailed and deep discussion. Disability
> related challenges need to be discussed not only between the
> individuals but also at the family level to avoid complications if
> any.
>
> If you have a decent earning prospects and a decent life wherein you
> are capable of upbringing your family well, then it is not as big
> problem as we see getting a sighted partner also. Again to emphasise,
> the only important aspect is to discuss the disability related
> challenges at the beginning itself to avoid issues in future.
>
> Nikita diii is just one exceptional example. maintaining yourself as a
> girl of that kind despite blindness also is a big thing to happen! But
> of course city, education, family and all plays a big role in that
> personality with which one comes out as an individual.
>
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Re: [AI] Problem with combo box

2014-07-01 Thread Hozefa Tambawala
Use ALT+DOWN ARROW instead of ENTER to open Combobox.

On 7/1/14, Avichal Bhatnagar  wrote:
> Hi all,
> Please clear a doubt of myne.
> How can we navigate the comboboxes on the web which are jumpy?
> I mean, there are some comboboxes which have a list which we can
> easily brouze with jaws from top to bottom, but in some comboboxes, as
> soon as we reach an item it gets opened.
> Please guide me on how to handle such comboboxes with jaws?
> Thanks.,
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Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

2014-07-01 Thread Muthu Raj
Hi friends,
Greetings from sighted husband and visually impaired house wife and of
course sighted toddler- baby boy born to them,
jeevan - the sighted baby swarna - totally blind,  but completely
independent house wife and a loving mother of 2 kids (me and my son)

I fell in love with swarna when she was interning with enable India and I
was working here, BTW still working :-)  our relationship started as
student teacher then blossomed into friendship then into love, like any
other love story we too had opposition from parents, but our love was
strong enough to convince and control our parents into getting us married
with mutual consent from our both parents BTW this this august will be our
fifth wedding anniversary.

love is blind after all, it does see any disability :-)

Cheers from jsm family
On 1 Jul 2014 05:44, "nikita vaid"  wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> I have been reading this discussion on and off on the move but could
> finally now get time to share some of my spontaneous thoughts.
>
> I would only like to share some of my personal experience as a born
> blind individual and as a wife  of a sighted person.
> I have been married 3 years now it was a love but more like an arrange
> marriage. Trust me its no big deal when a blind person getting married
> to a sighted person. What is more important here is that how the blind
> person makes his/ her sighted counterpart very comfortable. I am very
> particular about all the work, house hold responsibility my duty
> towards my husband and the entire family just as any other sighted
> laidy is suppose to be. I always ensured that I workout the
> alternative ways/ arrangements by which my husband should never feel
> that his wife is any different person and that he is require to take
> up more responsibility . Its important for a couple to work on
> captalising  upon each other's strengths
>
> To tell you frankly, though I cannot see, but majority  of the small
> fights/ nok jhoks between me and my husband is pertaining to keeping
> the house clean, keeping all the things up to date, including his upto
> dateness in terms of his dressing where I keep on telling ye thik nahi
> hai and ye thik hai. Some time he jokeingly asks me also "tumhe dikta
> nahi hai ese mujhe nahi lagta
>
> Its important that we as blind person are adequately confident about
> our selves and having this attitude of " blind hai toh kaya hua"
> really helps.
> In my family, both maiden side as well as in the inlaws side, I am
> taken as an example for the way I manage my house and also dress up my
> self. Bhawani ji was mentioning here that we as blind person cannot
> complement other on their dressing etc. but trust me its not
> difficult. If you can't complement on a person's - a color of the
> dress, may be u could complement on her perfume, her handback, jwelry
> etc if you are able to touch it. 1 very honest trik that I use is if
> say in my office 1 person is getting complements from other for her
> looks or dress, from others, I also go up to her and tell her that "
> mam I am feeling good and happy that a lot of people are complementing
> you today I am sure u r looking good, can u describe the color of your
>  dress to me if you don't mind," I am sure this is suiting you very
> much.
>
> There are ways to do so.  And by and large people also realize that it
> may not always be possible for you being blind to complement them
> always.
> Many a times, just by touching, I tell my mother in-law. "mummy this
> saree is good or this saree is not as good as your that saree so you
> change it.
> And to tell you, when ever my husband is going for an important
> meeting or occasion, its me who actually choose  his clothes from the
> cubbord
>
> He also understands me but empathizes rather than sympathizing with me.
> One important thing I feel that we as blind individuals must be very
> rigid about and ensure that in no situation our sighted counter part
> should be under this impression that he has done a "social obligation,
> or a great favor" by marrying   a blind person. Trust me if we are
> really confident and free from all fears, we are just no different and
> the opposite person has to understand this else he / she does not
> deserves us.
> I will keep on sharing my thoughts in this discussion no on.
>
> Thanks and warm Regards,
> Nikita V. Raut,
> Senior Manager [HR]
> Baroda Corporate Center, Bank of Baroda,
>
>
> On 7/1/14, Preeti Monga  wrote:
> > These days very few young people look for permission to marry! So there
is
> > nothing much you can do if your son wants to marry anyone! My current
> > husband's family were very against our marriage... but he ran away from
> > home
> > to marry me! Then in ten days all was well and now the family loves me
> > perfectly! You just have to accept your children marrying anyone. The
idea
> > is to let them live out and find out. Just be there with them and there
is
> > a
> > better chance of marriages to last if youngsters take responsibilit

[AI] How to Remove Tables in Office 7?

2014-07-01 Thread Himanshu Sahu
Dear Friends, as the subject line says, I am having word documents
containing many tables, which I want to remove.

I am using Windows 7/office 7. I  am not able to locate the option
"convert tables into text" or similar to it, like which we do in
office 2003.

So please suggest that how to solve this problem!

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[AI] . Re: my quriyocity are normelpeople intrestedinmarryingblindpartners

2014-07-01 Thread aditi shah
Hi there everyone,
Have been reading this discussion since a few days, so felt like
expressing my views as well.

We are all humans blind or not, and we have our own set of skills.
There might be areas we are extremely good at or there might be areas
we cannot do much, in case of us blind it may be because of our
disability whereas incase of sighted it might be due to other reasons.
According to me, a happy married life demands a set of some basic
skills, like understanding, cooking, up bringing of kids, earning,
socializing, etc.
Again, these basic requirements differ depending on what kind of a
lifestyle one has.
So, in my view, it does not really matter whether we are marrying a
sighted or a blind, what matters is whether our's and our partner's
skills can meet those basic requirements or not.
Considering this, I disagree from the belief that if a blind has to
marry a sighted, he has to make compromises like marrying someone
economically or intellectually weaker than us.
If a blind who is earning well or is from a well-to-do family or may
be is extremely qualified marries a sighted from a weaker economic
background or qualification, it is not a compromise as far as both
partners together possess the required skills.
Even if a blind is marrying a blind, and both of them can manage to do
the required things, may be in ways different than the normal world,
they can indeed have a successful married life.

So, it is not about being blind or sighted, it is always about finding
that someone such that with understanding, you can both match up for
each other's shortcomings.
Life partners are like two pieces of a puzzle, one has to find the
other half that fits perfectly, lest we got to spend our entire life
filling the gaps.

Regards,
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Re: [AI] Problem with combo box

2014-07-01 Thread Zujar Shabbir Kanchwala
when on the combo box, press ALT+DOWN to open the list and then choose
the desired item from the list. Navigating with arrow keys or letters
in the list opened this way is safe as it doesn't trigger the
corresponding action. The action occurs only when you hit the ENTER
key or TAB key.

On 7/1/14, Avichal Bhatnagar  wrote:
> Hi all,
> Please clear a doubt of myne.
> How can we navigate the comboboxes on the web which are jumpy?
> I mean, there are some comboboxes which have a list which we can
> easily brouze with jaws from top to bottom, but in some comboboxes, as
> soon as we reach an item it gets opened.
> Please guide me on how to handle such comboboxes with jaws?
> Thanks.,
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Re: [AI] Guidelines regarding job profile for bankers

2014-07-01 Thread Vamshi. G
Dear Rashmi,

I invite you to form part of the group "Visually  Challenged Bankers
of India", a group for visually challenged bankers where you can
interact with about 300 visually challenged bank employees working in
different banks from different parts of the country. A few are from
your own PNB.You can also get a list of jobs that visually
challenged can do in the banks.  To subscribe, do the following:

1.  Send a mail to
vib-india+subscr...@googlegroups.com

2.  You will get a mail in return.  In that, click on the link "apply
for membership" and write your name, bank and purpose of joining the
group.

3.  You will be subscribed to the group.

For any clarifications, please contact me.  I'm the moderator of the group.

On 7/1/14, Rashmi Taneja  wrote:
> Hello everyone
> I've recently been appointed as PO in PNB through the IBPS exam. I've
> heard that there are certain guidelines which have been formulated by
> the Government, which describe what kind of jobs can be given to us
> blinds in banks, and that there are different types of jobs which have
> been mentioned for each category, such as clerks, officers, etc. I
> would like to know if any such guidelines do exist, and if they do, is
> it possible for me to get those, or if anyone could send those to me.
> Any help would be highly appreciated. Thanks
> Regards
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> Department of Commerce,
> Delhi School of Economics,
> University of Delhi
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Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople interested inmarryingblind partners

2014-07-01 Thread bhawani shankar verma
there is no formula of successful married life and successful marriage. 
even I have found that marriage councellors in mahila police stations are 
facing difficulties in their married life. there is a big difference between 
philosophy and practicle.



-Original Message- 
From: Preeti Monga

Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 4:04 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople interested inmarryingblind 
partners


Interestingly there is no argument as to  weather a blind person must marry
a blind person or a non blind person! The idea is to marry successfully, be
happy and cherish the relationship for good! You are not buying vegitables
or furniture; you therefore need to understand
That every human is different and there are no fixed kind of matches one can
prescribe for marrying one or the other! But, yes, as said by many wise
people, "there is nothing more happy and blissful than a good marriage, and
there can be nothing  worse and hellish than a bad  marriage,
incompatibility can lead to living life  in hell"!
The fact that you can see or not is only a small part of the whole thing!
Preeti
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Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 3:49 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople interested in marryingblind
partners

majority of married blind persons have a blind partners, so, we can't say
that blind partner would not be a good choice. regarding education and
science, my elder brother and his wife both are blind and their daughter is
studying biology and further preparing for micro biology. hence, this
purpose also defeated. my experience is if the couple is blind and both are
educated, their children becomes brilliant and more disciplined children
then the sighted parents. very low percentage of blind persons have a blind
partners and having successful married life. majority of blind persons who
are having sighted partner are facing difficulties in their married life.
10-12 emails in accessindia group can not represent the entire blind
cummunity.


-Original Message- 
From: Amar Jain

Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 1:02 PM
To: accessindia
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople interested in marryingblind

partners

Let me share my thoughts as a growing adult on the issue of sighted vs.
blind.

Choosing a blind partner: Many of us do have these doubts as to
whether a blind partner would be better than a sighted partner or not.

To my mind, the difference is in the fact that having a blind partner
would make things easy to the extent of your understanding of the
issues concerning the blindness. So, in case of a sighted person you
may need to work with them for example to not to change the place of
the things frequently as that may cause a little discomfort in your
daily work. And the disability related issues will need to be
explained to him. Which are not required to be done in case of a blind
partner at that basic level.

But that does not mean that you will have a better compatebility. That
has got nothing to do with disability per se.

It also depends how well you can play your role in that other
partner's life. I have seen many blind people arguing for a sighted
partner just because they think that their challenges of life will be
over. That type of dependence to my mind is not good for a married
life. Remember, he is your  companion not a servant or assistant.

Choosing a Sighted: Many sighted do not give a deep thought on the
issues concerning marrying a blind partner of course when that initial
resistance of others is over once they decide that they themselves
have no mental blocks in getting a blind partner. Its only at the
later stage when people realize that its a lifetime battle as regards
the answering the society, or anything else for that matter.

At that stage both need to act sensibally. For example, I would never
like to listen if my wife happens to be sighted at a later stage in
life that she made a mistake by choosing a blind partner. That can
only happen if I continue to play my active role, and I am not over
dependent on her.

The only consequence

Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople interested in marryingblind partners

2014-07-01 Thread bhawani shankar verma

he can explain it better.
however, I have never found any child has become illiterate, uneducated or 
criminal due to the blindness of his or her parents.


-Original Message- 
From: Amar Jain

Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 4:35 PM
To: accessindia
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople interested in marryingblind 
partners


Great example Bhawani sir. How did your brother handle the education part?

I think socialization is also an important factor. Not many blind
people socialize also beyond their community of course. Anyways these
are just my concerns.

Regards,
--
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Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople interested in marryingblind partners

2014-07-01 Thread Preeti Monga
Where do you live? Are you in Delhi? Because if you are, or  if you canmake
it, I wish to invite you for the forth coming Fusion meet at the India
International Center on 3rd August and join me in shareing your valuable
experience on this very important subject?
Please do let me know.
Warmly
Preeti

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of habeeb. c
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 5:15 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople interested in marryingblind
partners

Dear friends,
instead of delliberating too much on this topic, why can't we share
our own experiences of marriage, since it can help the youngsters in
search of a partner.
regards

On 7/1/14, Preeti Monga  wrote:
> Interestingly there is no argument as to  weather a blind person must
marry
> a blind person or a non blind person! The idea is to marry successfully,
be
> happy and cherish the relationship for good! You are not buying vegitables
> or furniture; you therefore need to understand
> That every human is different and there are no fixed kind of matches one
> can
> prescribe for marrying one or the other! But, yes, as said by many wise
> people, "there is nothing more happy and blissful than a good marriage,
and
> there can be nothing  worse and hellish than a bad  marriage,
> incompatibility can lead to living life  in hell"!
> The fact that you can see or not is only a small part of the whole thing!
> Preeti
> Preeti Monga
> Director
>
>
>
> Mobile: +91 9871701646
> Landline: 011 22781446
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> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf
> Of bhawani shankar verma
> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 3:49 PM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople interested in
> marryingblind
> partners
>
> majority of married blind persons have a blind partners, so, we can't say
> that blind partner would not be a good choice. regarding education and
> science, my elder brother and his wife both are blind and their daughter
is
>
> studying biology and further preparing for micro biology. hence, this
> purpose also defeated. my experience is if the couple is blind and both
are
>
> educated, their children becomes brilliant and more disciplined children
> then the sighted parents. very low percentage of blind persons have a
blind
>
> partners and having successful married life. majority of blind persons who
> are having sighted partner are facing difficulties in their married life.
> 10-12 emails in accessindia group can not represent the entire blind
> cummunity.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Amar Jain
> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 1:02 PM
> To: accessindia
> Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople interested in
> marryingblind
>
> partners
>
> Let me share my thoughts as a growing adult on the issue of sighted vs.
> blind.
>
> Choosing a blind partner: Many of us do have these doubts as to
> whether a blind partner would be better than a sighted partner or not.
>
> To my mind, the difference is in the fact that having a blind partner
> would make things easy to the extent of your understanding of the
> issues concerning the blindness. So, in case of a sighted person you
> may need to work with them for example to not to change the place of
> the things frequently as that may cause a little discomfort in your
> daily work. And the disability related issues will need to be
> explained to him. Which are not required to be done in case of a blind
> partner at that basic level.
>
> But that does not mean that you will have a better compatebility. 

Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople interested in marryingblind partners

2014-07-01 Thread habeeb. c
Dear friends,
instead of delliberating too much on this topic, why can't we share
our own experiences of marriage, since it can help the youngsters in
search of a partner.
regards

On 7/1/14, Preeti Monga  wrote:
> Interestingly there is no argument as to  weather a blind person must marry
> a blind person or a non blind person! The idea is to marry successfully, be
> happy and cherish the relationship for good! You are not buying vegitables
> or furniture; you therefore need to understand
> That every human is different and there are no fixed kind of matches one
> can
> prescribe for marrying one or the other! But, yes, as said by many wise
> people, "there is nothing more happy and blissful than a good marriage, and
> there can be nothing  worse and hellish than a bad  marriage,
> incompatibility can lead to living life  in hell"!
> The fact that you can see or not is only a small part of the whole thing!
> Preeti
> Preeti Monga
> Director
>
>
>
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> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of bhawani shankar verma
> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 3:49 PM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople interested in
> marryingblind
> partners
>
> majority of married blind persons have a blind partners, so, we can't say
> that blind partner would not be a good choice. regarding education and
> science, my elder brother and his wife both are blind and their daughter is
>
> studying biology and further preparing for micro biology. hence, this
> purpose also defeated. my experience is if the couple is blind and both are
>
> educated, their children becomes brilliant and more disciplined children
> then the sighted parents. very low percentage of blind persons have a blind
>
> partners and having successful married life. majority of blind persons who
> are having sighted partner are facing difficulties in their married life.
> 10-12 emails in accessindia group can not represent the entire blind
> cummunity.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Amar Jain
> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 1:02 PM
> To: accessindia
> Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople interested in
> marryingblind
>
> partners
>
> Let me share my thoughts as a growing adult on the issue of sighted vs.
> blind.
>
> Choosing a blind partner: Many of us do have these doubts as to
> whether a blind partner would be better than a sighted partner or not.
>
> To my mind, the difference is in the fact that having a blind partner
> would make things easy to the extent of your understanding of the
> issues concerning the blindness. So, in case of a sighted person you
> may need to work with them for example to not to change the place of
> the things frequently as that may cause a little discomfort in your
> daily work. And the disability related issues will need to be
> explained to him. Which are not required to be done in case of a blind
> partner at that basic level.
>
> But that does not mean that you will have a better compatebility. That
> has got nothing to do with disability per se.
>
> It also depends how well you can play your role in that other
> partner's life. I have seen many blind people arguing for a sighted
> partner just because they think that their challenges of life will be
> over. That type of dependence to my mind is not good for a married
> life. Remember, he is your  companion not a servant or assistant.
>
> Choosing a Sighted: Many sighted do not give a deep thought on the
> issues concerning marrying a blind partner of course when that initial
> resistance of others is over once they decide that they themselves
> have no mental blocks in getting a blind partner. Its only at the
> later stage when people realize that its a lifetime battle as regards
> the answering the society, or anything else for that matter.
>
> At that stage both need to act sensibally. For example, I would never
> like to listen if my wife happens to be sighted at a later stage in
> life that she made a mistake by choosing a blind partner. That can
> only happen if I continue to play my active role, and I am not over
> dependent on her.
>
> The only consequence of having a blind partner which to my mind is
> that how can you as a male partner ensure her safety and security. A

Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in marryingblindpartners

2014-07-01 Thread Preeti Monga
Once again, Rahul, am taking this opportunity to invite all of you to come
over to the next Fusion Meet on 3rd August Sunday at 2 pm. Please bring
along your sighted and non disabled friends. And also may I request you guys
to extend this invitation to all the other lists and to all your friends,
family and contacts off the lists as well. We  are  trying to extend this
invite to as many people we can so your colleaguesand co workers are also
welcome. Anyone who  would like to expand your social space is to come.
Please do drop me a line of  confirmation, so we can make arrangements.

So now let us not only talk, let us take some action!

Preeti
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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Rahul Bajaj
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 4:50 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in
marryingblindpartners

Hi All,

This is turning out to be the most intriguing discussion that we've
had in quite a while!
I have thoroughly enjoyed reading all the posts; some people have made
some really thought-provoking points.
That being said, one thing which particularly struck a chord with me
was what George Sir said about the need to enlarge one's social
circle.
That point, in my view, goes to the heart of the issue as that has a
direct impact on your ability to possess the required qualities to be
attractive, your ability to be an equal partner in a relationship,
etc.
Far too many of us spend most of our time engaging with other blind
people and only enjoy talking about assistive technology and the
challenges that our visual impairment entails all the time.
While I agree that these things are very important and deserve our
attention, I earnestly believe that doing these things to the
exclusion of all else is the primary cause of our inability to
effectively engage with sighted people, let alone sighted partners.
My uniform experience has taught me that, those blind people who do
not take their blindness too seriously and consider it another
dimension, albeit a very important one, of their personality, are the
ones who have more sighted friends and partners.
If a blind person thinks that he is simply not good enough for a
sighted person, then all his actions will reflect his low self respect
and lack of confidence.
As a result, this often ends up being a self-fulfilling prophecy.
As others have rightly pointed out, what actually matters at the end
of the day is not whether you have a sighted or blind partner, but
whether you have the ability and willingness to contribute
substantively to that relationship.

In sum, we all, as blind people, have a choice. The choice is this: Do
we want to view ourselves as blind people who must view everything
around us through the lens of blindness (no pun intended), or do we
want to view ourselves as intelligent, confident and competent
individuals who happen to be blind?
I am not denying the fact that many of our flaws and foibles can be
attributed to our blindness and have to be suitably dealt with, but
almost every important decision that we have to make eventually comes
down to this choice.

Best,
Rahul

On 01/07/2014, Nikita Vaid  wrote:
> Ishita,
> I understand your concern. But let me tell you that  the picture is not
all
> that gloomy.
> If you are good friends with some one especially  in the same gender, then
> why will some one not let you get a feel of or describe his or her clothes
> etc. there is no questions of being over  confident or hyper active, this
> will anyways not help it..
> yes I agree that especially in the arrange marriages its difficult but not
> impossible jus because of blindness. A lot however also depends on luck.
Why
> do we as blind persons have a tendency to remain so different / isolated
> from others in our general social live? Is in it that we assume a lot of
> things - especially negative ones on our own?
>
> Can we just try and change our own outlook to ourselves at least?
>
> Thanks and warm Regards,
> Nikita V. Raut,
> Senior Manager [HR]
> Baroda Corporate Center, Bank of Baroda,
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf
> Of ishita kapoor
> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 2:33 PM
> To: AccessIndia: a 

[AI] Guidelines regarding job profile for bankers

2014-07-01 Thread Rashmi Taneja
Hello everyone
I've recently been appointed as PO in PNB through the IBPS exam. I've
heard that there are certain guidelines which have been formulated by
the Government, which describe what kind of jobs can be given to us
blinds in banks, and that there are different types of jobs which have
been mentioned for each category, such as clerks, officers, etc. I
would like to know if any such guidelines do exist, and if they do, is
it possible for me to get those, or if anyone could send those to me.
Any help would be highly appreciated. Thanks
Regards
Rashmi Taneja
M.Phil Research Scholar,
Department of Commerce,
Delhi School of Economics,
University of Delhi



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[AI] RBI officer grade B objective type test preparatory material required

2014-07-01 Thread Ekinath Khedekar
Hello,

One of my VI friends is preparing for the initial MCQ exam of the RBI
post of Officer grade B.
Where can he get accessible practice material for the same?

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Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in marryingblindpartners

2014-07-01 Thread Rahul Bajaj
Hi All,

This is turning out to be the most intriguing discussion that we've
had in quite a while!
I have thoroughly enjoyed reading all the posts; some people have made
some really thought-provoking points.
That being said, one thing which particularly struck a chord with me
was what George Sir said about the need to enlarge one's social
circle.
That point, in my view, goes to the heart of the issue as that has a
direct impact on your ability to possess the required qualities to be
attractive, your ability to be an equal partner in a relationship,
etc.
Far too many of us spend most of our time engaging with other blind
people and only enjoy talking about assistive technology and the
challenges that our visual impairment entails all the time.
While I agree that these things are very important and deserve our
attention, I earnestly believe that doing these things to the
exclusion of all else is the primary cause of our inability to
effectively engage with sighted people, let alone sighted partners.
My uniform experience has taught me that, those blind people who do
not take their blindness too seriously and consider it another
dimension, albeit a very important one, of their personality, are the
ones who have more sighted friends and partners.
If a blind person thinks that he is simply not good enough for a
sighted person, then all his actions will reflect his low self respect
and lack of confidence.
As a result, this often ends up being a self-fulfilling prophecy.
As others have rightly pointed out, what actually matters at the end
of the day is not whether you have a sighted or blind partner, but
whether you have the ability and willingness to contribute
substantively to that relationship.

In sum, we all, as blind people, have a choice. The choice is this: Do
we want to view ourselves as blind people who must view everything
around us through the lens of blindness (no pun intended), or do we
want to view ourselves as intelligent, confident and competent
individuals who happen to be blind?
I am not denying the fact that many of our flaws and foibles can be
attributed to our blindness and have to be suitably dealt with, but
almost every important decision that we have to make eventually comes
down to this choice.

Best,
Rahul

On 01/07/2014, Nikita Vaid  wrote:
> Ishita,
> I understand your concern. But let me tell you that  the picture is not all
> that gloomy.
> If you are good friends with some one especially  in the same gender, then
> why will some one not let you get a feel of or describe his or her clothes
> etc. there is no questions of being over  confident or hyper active, this
> will anyways not help it..
> yes I agree that especially in the arrange marriages its difficult but not
> impossible jus because of blindness. A lot however also depends on luck. Why
> do we as blind persons have a tendency to remain so different / isolated
> from others in our general social live? Is in it that we assume a lot of
> things - especially negative ones on our own?
>
> Can we just try and change our own outlook to ourselves at least?
>
> Thanks and warm Regards,
> Nikita V. Raut,
> Senior Manager [HR]
> Baroda Corporate Center, Bank of Baroda,
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of ishita kapoor
> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 2:33 PM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in
> marryingblindpartners
>
> How idealistic talking going on?
> I can't ask a person working in my office to allow me to touch his or
> her clothes or hand to know how it is, unless I am over confident or
> hiper active.
> If I am blind person then I can allow my able bodied son or daughter
> to accept blind life partner willingly.
> Otherwise such things happen in fictions only.
> Arrange marriage between blind and sighted is only compromise.
> When a non disable doesn't get proper match in his world then only he
> or she thinks to marry blind person: as something is better then
> nothing.
> I also love to read idealistic comments but reality is not always bookish.
>
>
> On 7/1/14, George Abraham  wrote:
>> 500 to 800 words. If you want to share more, you can break the and do it
>> in
>> two blog posts
>>
>> George
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Preeti Monga
>> Sent: 01 July 2014 13:19
>> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning
>> the disabled.'
>> Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in
>> marryingblindpartners
>>
>> How many words? Will take me a few days though.
>> Preeti
>>
>> Preeti Monga
>> Director
>>
>>
>>
>> Mobile: +91 9871701646
>> Landline: 011 22781446
>> E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
>> Website: www.silver-linings.co.in  ;  www.silver-linings.org
>> Our Services: Executive Se

[AI] Accessing graphic calenders online

2014-07-01 Thread Ekinath Khedekar
Hi,

Has anybody found solution to accessing online calendar dates which
needs to be inserted in the read only edit box?

I am using JAWS 15 32 bit iwht windows 8. Have also installed NVDA,
but to no avail.
Please note that no dates open with links at the bottom of the page
when I click on "graphic calendar link."

Earlier, I was using web IE, an accessible web browser to access these
calenders, but web IE is not getting installed on my machine.

Will be a great cue to save my time.

Thanks
Thank





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Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople interested in marrying blind partners

2014-07-01 Thread Amar Jain
Great example Bhawani sir. How did your brother handle the education part?

I think socialization is also an important factor. Not many blind
people socialize also beyond their community of course. Anyways these
are just my concerns.

Regards,
-- 
Amar Jain.
Website: www.amarjain.com



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Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested inmarryingblindpartners

2014-07-01 Thread Preeti Monga
Don't worry, we all have unhappy experiences at times. I think you may just 
like to give yourself a break
And get over it! If there are a few blind beggers, we cannot lable all blind as 
beggers... can we?

So there is no need to lable anyone or any situation! Just go with the flow and 
take things slowly and you will find great people waiting for you!
Preeti
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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
bhawani shankar verma
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 3:40 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested 
inmarryingblindpartners

why we are discussing here marrying blind with sighted. better is to go for 
blind partner. I think that on the point of adjustment and conformity blind 
partner would be the better choice. however, I can't say anything more on 
it, because I am alone. Literally I have gone threw hell in my previous 
married life and it has legally been broken 5 years ago. I am not an expert 
on human relationship.


-Original Message- 
From: ishita kapoor
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 2:33 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested 
inmarryingblindpartners

How idealistic talking going on?
I can’t ask a person working in my office to allow me to touch his or
her clothes or hand to know how it is, unless I am over confident or
hiper active.
If I am blind person then I can allow my able bodied son or daughter
to accept blind life partner willingly.
Otherwise such things happen in fictions only.
Arrange marriage between blind and sighted is only compromise.
When a non disable doesn’t get proper match in his world then only he
or she thinks to marry blind person: as something is better then
nothing.
I also love to read idealistic comments but reality is not always bookish.


On 7/1/14, George Abraham  wrote:
> 500 to 800 words. If you want to share more, you can break the and do it 
> in
> two blog posts
>
> George
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
> Behalf
> Of Preeti Monga
> Sent: 01 July 2014 13:19
> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
> concerning
> the disabled.'
> Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in
> marryingblindpartners
>
> How many words? Will take me a few days though.
> Preeti
>
> Preeti Monga
> Director
>
>
>
> Mobile: +91 9871701646
> Landline: 011 22781446
> E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
> Website: www.silver-linings.co.in  ;  www.silver-linings.org
> Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training
> –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – 
> Corporate
> ; Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying
> workshops  and counseling. Printing Solutions,  Incentive Travel and
> Marketing Data Mining / Refining..
>
> We  assure  high quality service marked with excellence and complete
> customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
> Behalf
> Of George Abraham
> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 12:09 PM
> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
> concerning
> the disabled.'
> Cc: 'Deepti Gahrotra'
> Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in
> marryingblindpartners
>
> Hey Preeti,
>
> Now that you have shared so much on the subject, why don't you write a 
> blog
> post for us on the subject. I would be happy to publish.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
> Behalf
> Of Preeti Monga
> Sent: 01 July 2014 10:11
> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
> concerning
> the disabled.'
> Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in
> marryingblindpartners
>
> When we do get married, we of course feel that it is the best choice...
> but... it is only after sometime that one really finds out if you have 
> made
> the best one! When you find out how much noise he/she makes in the
> bathroom... how he/she brushes his/her teeth.

Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople interested in marryingblind partners

2014-07-01 Thread Preeti Monga
Interestingly there is no argument as to  weather a blind person must marry
a blind person or a non blind person! The idea is to marry successfully, be
happy and cherish the relationship for good! You are not buying vegitables
or furniture; you therefore need to understand 
That every human is different and there are no fixed kind of matches one can
prescribe for marrying one or the other! But, yes, as said by many wise
people, "there is nothing more happy and blissful than a good marriage, and
there can be nothing  worse and hellish than a bad  marriage,
incompatibility can lead to living life  in hell"!
The fact that you can see or not is only a small part of the whole thing!
Preeti
Preeti Monga
Director
 

 
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Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 3:49 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople interested in marryingblind
partners

majority of married blind persons have a blind partners, so, we can't say 
that blind partner would not be a good choice. regarding education and 
science, my elder brother and his wife both are blind and their daughter is 
studying biology and further preparing for micro biology. hence, this 
purpose also defeated. my experience is if the couple is blind and both are 
educated, their children becomes brilliant and more disciplined children 
then the sighted parents. very low percentage of blind persons have a blind 
partners and having successful married life. majority of blind persons who 
are having sighted partner are facing difficulties in their married life. 
10-12 emails in accessindia group can not represent the entire blind 
cummunity.


-Original Message- 
From: Amar Jain
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 1:02 PM
To: accessindia
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople interested in marryingblind

partners

Let me share my thoughts as a growing adult on the issue of sighted vs. 
blind.

Choosing a blind partner: Many of us do have these doubts as to
whether a blind partner would be better than a sighted partner or not.

To my mind, the difference is in the fact that having a blind partner
would make things easy to the extent of your understanding of the
issues concerning the blindness. So, in case of a sighted person you
may need to work with them for example to not to change the place of
the things frequently as that may cause a little discomfort in your
daily work. And the disability related issues will need to be
explained to him. Which are not required to be done in case of a blind
partner at that basic level.

But that does not mean that you will have a better compatebility. That
has got nothing to do with disability per se.

It also depends how well you can play your role in that other
partner's life. I have seen many blind people arguing for a sighted
partner just because they think that their challenges of life will be
over. That type of dependence to my mind is not good for a married
life. Remember, he is your  companion not a servant or assistant.

Choosing a Sighted: Many sighted do not give a deep thought on the
issues concerning marrying a blind partner of course when that initial
resistance of others is over once they decide that they themselves
have no mental blocks in getting a blind partner. Its only at the
later stage when people realize that its a lifetime battle as regards
the answering the society, or anything else for that matter.

At that stage both need to act sensibally. For example, I would never
like to listen if my wife happens to be sighted at a later stage in
life that she made a mistake by choosing a blind partner. That can
only happen if I continue to play my active role, and I am not over
dependent on her.

The only consequence of having a blind partner which to my mind is
that how can you as a male partner ensure her safety and security. And
I am not saying that all blind females who have blind husbands are
unsafe or unsecured. Its just offering that comfort. And of course
some additional challenges like teaching your kids subjects like
Science where you yourself have the weak background, which may need to
be tackled appropriately.

Now as far as convincing a sighted partner is concerned: First and
foremost, I am of the op

Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested inmarryingblindpartners

2014-07-01 Thread bhawani shankar verma
you are right ishita, if a sighted person marry a blind person then either 
he or she has fallen in love with him or he or she would be in a very 
compromising situation. I know some parents of blind earning daughter where 
they have paid a very high amount to purchase a sighted partner for her to 
marry her in own cast. we can not compare metros like delhi and mumbai with 
entire india.



-Original Message- 
From: ishita kapoor

Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 3:42 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested 
inmarryingblindpartners


Hi nikita,
Yes you are right; we can touch clothes of our friends.
But in office?
Can I ask my manager or other person working with my institute that:
are sir ya madam log apke kapdo ki kafi tariff kar rahe hai muje chhu
lene do to mai bhi tariff kar sakun?
Of course not.
Here my point is: why a non disable decide to marry blind person?
In my view if he or she doesn’t get proper match or you are earning
handsomely then only he or she will think to accept us as life
partner.
I know that the picture is not as gloomy as it appears in my mail. At
the same time it is not as real as your mails.
We have limititation and noone wants kamzor life partner.
We may get rather we can easily get non disable friends.
But a non disable will never accept us as life partner without solid 
majburi.



On 7/1/14, Nikita Vaid  wrote:

Ishita,
I understand your concern. But let me tell you that  the picture is not 
all

that gloomy.
If you are good friends with some one especially  in the same gender, then
why will some one not let you get a feel of or describe his or her clothes
etc. there is no questions of being over  confident or hyper active, this
will anyways not help it..
yes I agree that especially in the arrange marriages its difficult but not
impossible jus because of blindness. A lot however also depends on luck. 
Why

do we as blind persons have a tendency to remain so different / isolated
from others in our general social live? Is in it that we assume a lot of
things - especially negative ones on our own?

Can we just try and change our own outlook to ourselves at least?

Thanks and warm Regards,
Nikita V. Raut,
Senior Manager [HR]
Baroda Corporate Center, Bank of Baroda,

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf

Of ishita kapoor
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 2:33 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in
marryingblindpartners

How idealistic talking going on?
I can't ask a person working in my office to allow me to touch his or
her clothes or hand to know how it is, unless I am over confident or
hiper active.
If I am blind person then I can allow my able bodied son or daughter
to accept blind life partner willingly.
Otherwise such things happen in fictions only.
Arrange marriage between blind and sighted is only compromise.
When a non disable doesn't get proper match in his world then only he
or she thinks to marry blind person: as something is better then
nothing.
I also love to read idealistic comments but reality is not always bookish.


On 7/1/14, George Abraham  wrote:

500 to 800 words. If you want to share more, you can break the and do it
in
two blog posts

George

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf
Of Preeti Monga
Sent: 01 July 2014 13:19
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in
marryingblindpartners

How many words? Will take me a few days though.
Preeti

Preeti Monga
Director



Mobile: +91 9871701646
Landline: 011 22781446
E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
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Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training
-Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting -
Corporate
; Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying
workshops  and counseling. Printing Solutions,  Incentive Travel and
Marketing Data Mining / Refining..

We  assure  high quality service marked with excellence and complete
customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along.



-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf
Of George Abraham
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 12:09 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning
the disabled.'
Cc: 'Deepti Gahrotra'
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in
marryingblindpartners

Hey Preeti,

Now that you have shared so much on the subject, why don't you write a
blog
post for us on the subject. I would be happy to publish.



-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [

Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople interested in marryingblind partners

2014-07-01 Thread bhawani shankar verma
majority of married blind persons have a blind partners, so, we can't say 
that blind partner would not be a good choice. regarding education and 
science, my elder brother and his wife both are blind and their daughter is 
studying biology and further preparing for micro biology. hence, this 
purpose also defeated. my experience is if the couple is blind and both are 
educated, their children becomes brilliant and more disciplined children 
then the sighted parents. very low percentage of blind persons have a blind 
partners and having successful married life. majority of blind persons who 
are having sighted partner are facing difficulties in their married life. 
10-12 emails in accessindia group can not represent the entire blind 
cummunity.



-Original Message- 
From: Amar Jain

Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 1:02 PM
To: accessindia
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople interested in marryingblind 
partners


Let me share my thoughts as a growing adult on the issue of sighted vs. 
blind.


Choosing a blind partner: Many of us do have these doubts as to
whether a blind partner would be better than a sighted partner or not.

To my mind, the difference is in the fact that having a blind partner
would make things easy to the extent of your understanding of the
issues concerning the blindness. So, in case of a sighted person you
may need to work with them for example to not to change the place of
the things frequently as that may cause a little discomfort in your
daily work. And the disability related issues will need to be
explained to him. Which are not required to be done in case of a blind
partner at that basic level.

But that does not mean that you will have a better compatebility. That
has got nothing to do with disability per se.

It also depends how well you can play your role in that other
partner's life. I have seen many blind people arguing for a sighted
partner just because they think that their challenges of life will be
over. That type of dependence to my mind is not good for a married
life. Remember, he is your  companion not a servant or assistant.

Choosing a Sighted: Many sighted do not give a deep thought on the
issues concerning marrying a blind partner of course when that initial
resistance of others is over once they decide that they themselves
have no mental blocks in getting a blind partner. Its only at the
later stage when people realize that its a lifetime battle as regards
the answering the society, or anything else for that matter.

At that stage both need to act sensibally. For example, I would never
like to listen if my wife happens to be sighted at a later stage in
life that she made a mistake by choosing a blind partner. That can
only happen if I continue to play my active role, and I am not over
dependent on her.

The only consequence of having a blind partner which to my mind is
that how can you as a male partner ensure her safety and security. And
I am not saying that all blind females who have blind husbands are
unsafe or unsecured. Its just offering that comfort. And of course
some additional challenges like teaching your kids subjects like
Science where you yourself have the weak background, which may need to
be tackled appropriately.

Now as far as convincing a sighted partner is concerned: First and
foremost, I am of the opinion that do not try everyone and anyone.
Spend proper time, and then understand really is it what you are
looking for? Forget be it blind or sighted.

Second, I quite agree with Rajesh sir and Shadab bhaiya's views of
being yourself and having your other qualities at its best which can
then open a window for detailed and deep discussion. Disability
related challenges need to be discussed not only between the
individuals but also at the family level to avoid complications if
any.

If you have a decent earning prospects and a decent life wherein you
are capable of upbringing your family well, then it is not as big
problem as we see getting a sighted partner also. Again to emphasise,
the only important aspect is to discuss the disability related
challenges at the beginning itself to avoid issues in future.

Nikita diii is just one exceptional example. maintaining yourself as a
girl of that kind despite blindness also is a big thing to happen! But
of course city, education, family and all plays a big role in that
personality with which one comes out as an individual.

Regards,
--
Amar Jain.
Website: www.amarjain.com



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Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested inmarryingblindpartners

2014-07-01 Thread bhawani shankar verma
why we are discussing here marrying blind with sighted. better is to go for 
blind partner. I think that on the point of adjustment and conformity blind 
partner would be the better choice. however, I can't say anything more on 
it, because I am alone. Literally I have gone threw hell in my previous 
married life and it has legally been broken 5 years ago. I am not an expert 
on human relationship.



-Original Message- 
From: ishita kapoor

Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 2:33 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested 
inmarryingblindpartners


How idealistic talking going on?
I can’t ask a person working in my office to allow me to touch his or
her clothes or hand to know how it is, unless I am over confident or
hiper active.
If I am blind person then I can allow my able bodied son or daughter
to accept blind life partner willingly.
Otherwise such things happen in fictions only.
Arrange marriage between blind and sighted is only compromise.
When a non disable doesn’t get proper match in his world then only he
or she thinks to marry blind person: as something is better then
nothing.
I also love to read idealistic comments but reality is not always bookish.


On 7/1/14, George Abraham  wrote:
500 to 800 words. If you want to share more, you can break the and do it 
in

two blog posts

George

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf

Of Preeti Monga
Sent: 01 July 2014 13:19
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerning

the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in
marryingblindpartners

How many words? Will take me a few days though.
Preeti

Preeti Monga
Director



Mobile: +91 9871701646
Landline: 011 22781446
E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
Website: www.silver-linings.co.in  ;  www.silver-linings.org
Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training
–Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – 
Corporate

; Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying
workshops  and counseling. Printing Solutions,  Incentive Travel and
Marketing Data Mining / Refining..

We  assure  high quality service marked with excellence and complete
customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along.



-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf

Of George Abraham
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 12:09 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerning

the disabled.'
Cc: 'Deepti Gahrotra'
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in
marryingblindpartners

Hey Preeti,

Now that you have shared so much on the subject, why don't you write a 
blog

post for us on the subject. I would be happy to publish.



-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf

Of Preeti Monga
Sent: 01 July 2014 10:11
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerning

the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in
marryingblindpartners

When we do get married, we of course feel that it is the best choice...
but... it is only after sometime that one really finds out if you have 
made

the best one! When you find out how much noise he/she makes in the
bathroom... how he/she brushes his/her teeth... how are her/his eating
habits... and the other daily habits and what can tip off the bad temper
switch... all these things are not found out for certain till you begin
living together like husband and wife!
So there is a great deal of adjustment, and if you really have chosen the
spouce with  matching values, you may be in good luck for a lasting
relationship... a happy one!
Preeti

Preeti Monga
Director



Mobile: +91 9871701646
Landline: 011 22781446
E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
Website: www.silver-linings.co.in  ;  www.silver-linings.org
Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training
–Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – 
Corporate

; Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying
workshops  and counseling. Printing Solutions,  Incentive Travel and
Marketing Data Mining / Refining..

We  assure  high quality service marked with excellence and complete
customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along.


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf

Of Zoher Kheriwala
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 11:50 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in
marryingblindpartners

I remember of my childhood story, I use to get 10 rs. To spent every
day. After buying Panipuri with that mon

Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in marryingblindpartners

2014-07-01 Thread ishita kapoor
Hi nikita,
Yes you are right; we can touch clothes of our friends.
But in office?
Can I ask my manager or other person working with my institute that:
are sir ya madam log apke kapdo ki kafi tariff kar rahe hai muje chhu
lene do to mai bhi tariff kar sakun?
Of course not.
Here my point is: why a non disable decide to marry blind person?
In my view if he or she doesn’t get proper match or you are earning
handsomely then only he or she will think to accept us as life
partner.
I know that the picture is not as gloomy as it appears in my mail. At
the same time it is not as real as your mails.
We have limititation and noone wants kamzor life partner.
We may get rather we can easily get non disable friends.
But a non disable will never accept us as life partner without solid majburi.


On 7/1/14, Nikita Vaid  wrote:
> Ishita,
> I understand your concern. But let me tell you that  the picture is not all
> that gloomy.
> If you are good friends with some one especially  in the same gender, then
> why will some one not let you get a feel of or describe his or her clothes
> etc. there is no questions of being over  confident or hyper active, this
> will anyways not help it..
> yes I agree that especially in the arrange marriages its difficult but not
> impossible jus because of blindness. A lot however also depends on luck. Why
> do we as blind persons have a tendency to remain so different / isolated
> from others in our general social live? Is in it that we assume a lot of
> things - especially negative ones on our own?
>
> Can we just try and change our own outlook to ourselves at least?
>
> Thanks and warm Regards,
> Nikita V. Raut,
> Senior Manager [HR]
> Baroda Corporate Center, Bank of Baroda,
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of ishita kapoor
> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 2:33 PM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in
> marryingblindpartners
>
> How idealistic talking going on?
> I can't ask a person working in my office to allow me to touch his or
> her clothes or hand to know how it is, unless I am over confident or
> hiper active.
> If I am blind person then I can allow my able bodied son or daughter
> to accept blind life partner willingly.
> Otherwise such things happen in fictions only.
> Arrange marriage between blind and sighted is only compromise.
> When a non disable doesn't get proper match in his world then only he
> or she thinks to marry blind person: as something is better then
> nothing.
> I also love to read idealistic comments but reality is not always bookish.
>
>
> On 7/1/14, George Abraham  wrote:
>> 500 to 800 words. If you want to share more, you can break the and do it
>> in
>> two blog posts
>>
>> George
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Preeti Monga
>> Sent: 01 July 2014 13:19
>> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning
>> the disabled.'
>> Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in
>> marryingblindpartners
>>
>> How many words? Will take me a few days though.
>> Preeti
>>
>> Preeti Monga
>> Director
>>
>>
>>
>> Mobile: +91 9871701646
>> Landline: 011 22781446
>> E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
>> Website: www.silver-linings.co.in  ;  www.silver-linings.org
>> Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training
>> -Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting -
>> Corporate
>> ; Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying
>> workshops  and counseling. Printing Solutions,  Incentive Travel and
>> Marketing Data Mining / Refining..
>>
>> We  assure  high quality service marked with excellence and complete
>> customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>> Behalf
>> Of George Abraham
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 12:09 PM
>> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning
>> the disabled.'
>> Cc: 'Deepti Gahrotra'
>> Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in
>> marryingblindpartners
>>
>> Hey Preeti,
>>
>> Now that you have shared so much on the subject, why don't you write a
>> blog
>> post for us on the subject. I would be happy to publish.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Preeti Monga
>> Sent: 01 July 2014 10:11
>> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning
>> the disabled.'
>> Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in
>> marryingblindpartners
>>
>> When we do get married, we of course feel that it is the best choice...
>> but... it is only after sometime

[AI] FOREIGN EXCHANGE MARKET

2014-07-01 Thread Ram|SOAIS Bangalore
FOREIGN EXCHANGE MARKET
Foreign exchange market is the place where the financial institutions
of different countries come and exchange the currencies in a defined
manner and set rates. In forex market the deals of currencies are done
and in turn it defines the value of one currency in comparison to the
other (remember the hue and cry created about falling of our Rs
against Uncle Sam's dollars).




A foreign investor (FII or FDI) is a major source of foreign currency
in India let us consider a situation, There is a massive downturn in
the USA's economy, an investor with bag full of dollars goes to Forex
market and convert his dollars in to Rupees, then he comes to India to
invest and in turn generate huge amount of profits because of cheap
labour and other resources. He zeroes on Bengal as his site of
operation, but whatever rosy he had heard of India evaporates in a
jiffy, Didi along with her brigade stopped the move and forced the
dollar man out of the state, he shifts his base to other possible
alternative and loose huge amount of money due to leasing of new land,
final settlement of employees in Bengal taking new licenses and
clearances and adding insult to the injury was a 10lakh fine imposed
on him due to environmental issues all these created a Picasso classic
of bad Indian image in the foreign market, in meantime US economy
shows signs of revival so the Dollarman disinvested his chunks of
dollars from India and move towards uncle Sam's backyard, it results
in the loss of dollars in Indian chest.





WHY INDIA NEEDS DOLLAR -


Here is a case in the context -
 India has a huge demand of petrol and diesel in their economy, to buy
fuels from Saudi Arabia India needs a currency that Arab accepts (same
as you cannot buy milk by paying wheat anymore). Arab needs dollars to
invest and purchase goods from different countries (dollar is the most
accepted and sought of currency). So Indian oil companies will have to
go to foreign exchange market to buy dollars with rupees.


How the rates are decided-
Now the Indian oil companies go to Forex market to buy dollars for
paying fuel bills but the dollar rich institutes citing the
opportunity will not release their funds this easily, as they don't
need Rs anymore (due to the unsupportive govt, Inflation and scams in
India), The case is same as you fetch a drastically low prices for the
junk lying inactive at your home, So this will lead in to extended
round of negotiations and the past rate of 55Rs (say) against a dollar
will go up to 60Rs a dollar or even more. This will in turn be a
reason for rise of transport of goods in India and the final goods
that used to come for 10Rs in past will jump to 12 or more hence the
prise rise will strike in India leading to inflation.


FEMA(Foreign Exchange Management Act,1999)-
Foreign exchange regulation in India comes under FEMA (previously
FERA) , under this act RBI puts the persons who engage in foreign
exchanges, who holds properties abroad and who makes payment to
offshore countries under the scanner.


DAILY GK UPDATE - 29-30th June
1. PSLV C23 launched successfully from Sriharikotai. It was a 'grand'
exclusive commercial success for the Indian Space Research
Organisation (ISRO), which successfully launched Polar Satellite
Launch Vehicle PSLV-C23 with five foreign satellites into the space
this morning. This has strengthened India's space mission capability
to launch foreign satellites on a commercial basis.
ii. At 9.52 a.m., the ISRO's power horse PSLV roared into the cloudy
sky from the first launch pad here at Satish Dhawan Space Centre SHAR,
Sriharikota. The launch was delayed by three minutes to avoid space
debris.iii. Prime Minister Narendra Modi was ecstatic after watching
the launch (his first after taking over as PM) from the mission
control room along with senior ISRO officials, including Chairman K
Radhakrishnan.

Foreign satellitesThe rocked carried a 714 kg French Earth Observation
Satellite SPOT-7 as the main payload. This satellite was built by
Airbus Defence and Space, a leading European space technology company.
This satellite will be placed diametrically opposite to SPOT-6 and
will form part of the existing observation constellation.It also
carried Germany's 14 kg AISAT (a sea monitoring system), NLS7.1 and
NLS7.2 of Canada (each weighing 15 kg for accurate position control
system) and Singrapore's 7 kg VELOX-1 (for inhouse design of image
2. Malala Yousafzai wins Liberty Medali. A Pakistani girl Malala
Yousafzai has won the Liberty Medal from the National Constitution
Centre in Philadelphia.ii. "It's an honour to be awarded the Liberty
Medal," Yousafzai, now 17, said yesterday. "I accept this award on
behalf of all the children around the world who are struggling to get
an education".iii. The medal has been awarded annually since 1989,
when Polish Solidarity founder Lech Walesa received it first. Since
then, recipients have included Muhammad Ali, former President Jimmy
Carter, and, last year, then-S

Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in marryingblindpartners

2014-07-01 Thread Nikita Vaid
Ishita,
I understand your concern. But let me tell you that  the picture is not all 
that gloomy.
If you are good friends with some one especially  in the same gender, then why 
will some one not let you get a feel of or describe his or her clothes etc. 
there is no questions of being over  confident or hyper active, this will 
anyways not help it..
yes I agree that especially in the arrange marriages its difficult but not 
impossible jus because of blindness. A lot however also depends on luck. Why do 
we as blind persons have a tendency to remain so different / isolated from 
others in our general social live? Is in it that we assume a lot of things - 
especially negative ones on our own?

Can we just try and change our own outlook to ourselves at least?

Thanks and warm Regards,
Nikita V. Raut,
Senior Manager [HR]
Baroda Corporate Center, Bank of Baroda,

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
ishita kapoor
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 2:33 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in 
marryingblindpartners

How idealistic talking going on?
I can't ask a person working in my office to allow me to touch his or
her clothes or hand to know how it is, unless I am over confident or
hiper active.
If I am blind person then I can allow my able bodied son or daughter
to accept blind life partner willingly.
Otherwise such things happen in fictions only.
Arrange marriage between blind and sighted is only compromise.
When a non disable doesn't get proper match in his world then only he
or she thinks to marry blind person: as something is better then
nothing.
I also love to read idealistic comments but reality is not always bookish.


On 7/1/14, George Abraham  wrote:
> 500 to 800 words. If you want to share more, you can break the and do it in
> two blog posts
>
> George
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of Preeti Monga
> Sent: 01 July 2014 13:19
> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.'
> Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in
> marryingblindpartners
>
> How many words? Will take me a few days though.
> Preeti
>
> Preeti Monga
> Director
>
>
>
> Mobile: +91 9871701646
> Landline: 011 22781446
> E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
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> Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training
> -Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting - Corporate
> ; Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying
> workshops  and counseling. Printing Solutions,  Incentive Travel and
> Marketing Data Mining / Refining..
>
> We  assure  high quality service marked with excellence and complete
> customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of George Abraham
> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 12:09 PM
> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.'
> Cc: 'Deepti Gahrotra'
> Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in
> marryingblindpartners
>
> Hey Preeti,
>
> Now that you have shared so much on the subject, why don't you write a blog
> post for us on the subject. I would be happy to publish.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of Preeti Monga
> Sent: 01 July 2014 10:11
> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.'
> Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in
> marryingblindpartners
>
> When we do get married, we of course feel that it is the best choice...
> but... it is only after sometime that one really finds out if you have made
> the best one! When you find out how much noise he/she makes in the
> bathroom... how he/she brushes his/her teeth... how are her/his eating
> habits... and the other daily habits and what can tip off the bad temper
> switch... all these things are not found out for certain till you begin
> living together like husband and wife!
> So there is a great deal of adjustment, and if you really have chosen the
> spouce with  matching values, you may be in good luck for a lasting
> relationship... a happy one!
> Preeti
>
> Preeti Monga
> Director
>
>
>
> Mobile: +91 9871701646
> Landline: 011 22781446
> E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
> Website: www.silver-linings.co.in  ;  www.silver-linings.org
> Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training
> -Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting - Corporate
> ; Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying
> work

Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in marryingblindpartners

2014-07-01 Thread George Abraham
People are unique and each person comes to the table with varied experiences in 
life. What appears to be impossible for some is at time possible with others. I 
think it is important for us to live our lives with an open mind aspiring for 
the best for ourselves. Predisposed ideas and notions will only shut doors for 
us. What is reality? For me reality is what is real for me. Likewise what is 
real for me might not be real for someone else. Nikita  is living a life and 
all that she goes through in terms of experiences is real as far as she is 
concerned. I can always aspire to live my life like her . For that of course I 
need to give myself a fair chance. It might not be wise for us to define 
certain things as idealistic and some thing else as reality. If we do so, we 
might loose out.  
-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
ishita kapoor
Sent: 01 July 2014 14:33
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in 
marryingblindpartners

How idealistic talking going on?
I can’t ask a person working in my office to allow me to touch his or
her clothes or hand to know how it is, unless I am over confident or
hiper active.
If I am blind person then I can allow my able bodied son or daughter
to accept blind life partner willingly.
Otherwise such things happen in fictions only.
Arrange marriage between blind and sighted is only compromise.
When a non disable doesn’t get proper match in his world then only he
or she thinks to marry blind person: as something is better then
nothing.
I also love to read idealistic comments but reality is not always bookish.


On 7/1/14, George Abraham  wrote:
> 500 to 800 words. If you want to share more, you can break the and do it in
> two blog posts
>
> George
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of Preeti Monga
> Sent: 01 July 2014 13:19
> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.'
> Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in
> marryingblindpartners
>
> How many words? Will take me a few days though.
> Preeti
>
> Preeti Monga
> Director
>
>
>
> Mobile: +91 9871701646
> Landline: 011 22781446
> E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
> Website: www.silver-linings.co.in  ;  www.silver-linings.org
> Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training
> –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate
> ; Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying
> workshops  and counseling. Printing Solutions,  Incentive Travel and
> Marketing Data Mining / Refining..
>
> We  assure  high quality service marked with excellence and complete
> customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of George Abraham
> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 12:09 PM
> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.'
> Cc: 'Deepti Gahrotra'
> Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in
> marryingblindpartners
>
> Hey Preeti,
>
> Now that you have shared so much on the subject, why don't you write a blog
> post for us on the subject. I would be happy to publish.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of Preeti Monga
> Sent: 01 July 2014 10:11
> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.'
> Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in
> marryingblindpartners
>
> When we do get married, we of course feel that it is the best choice...
> but... it is only after sometime that one really finds out if you have made
> the best one! When you find out how much noise he/she makes in the
> bathroom... how he/she brushes his/her teeth... how are her/his eating
> habits... and the other daily habits and what can tip off the bad temper
> switch... all these things are not found out for certain till you begin
> living together like husband and wife!
> So there is a great deal of adjustment, and if you really have chosen the
> spouce with  matching values, you may be in good luck for a lasting
> relationship... a happy one!
> Preeti
>
> Preeti Monga
> Director
>
>
>
> Mobile: +91 9871701646
> Landline: 011 22781446
> E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
> Website: www.silver-linings.co.in  ;  www.silver-linings.org
> Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training
> –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate
> ; Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying
> workshops  and counseling. Printing Solutions,  Incentive Travel and
> Marketing Da

Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in marryingblindpartners

2014-07-01 Thread Preeti Monga
OK will see how much I can write. Any pointers?


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-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of George Abraham
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 2:31 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in
marryingblindpartners

500 to 800 words. If you want to share more, you can break the and do it in
two blog posts

George

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Preeti Monga
Sent: 01 July 2014 13:19
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in
marryingblindpartners

How many words? Will take me a few days though.
Preeti

Preeti Monga
Director
 

 
Mobile: +91 9871701646
Landline: 011 22781446
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Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training
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-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of George Abraham
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 12:09 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Cc: 'Deepti Gahrotra'
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in
marryingblindpartners

Hey Preeti,

Now that you have shared so much on the subject, why don't you write a blog
post for us on the subject. I would be happy to publish.

 

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Preeti Monga
Sent: 01 July 2014 10:11
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in
marryingblindpartners

When we do get married, we of course feel that it is the best choice...
but... it is only after sometime that one really finds out if you have made
the best one! When you find out how much noise he/she makes in the
bathroom... how he/she brushes his/her teeth... how are her/his eating
habits... and the other daily habits and what can tip off the bad temper
switch... all these things are not found out for certain till you begin
living together like husband and wife!
So there is a great deal of adjustment, and if you really have chosen the
spouce with  matching values, you may be in good luck for a lasting
relationship... a happy one! 
Preeti

Preeti Monga
Director
 

 
Mobile: +91 9871701646
Landline: 011 22781446
E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
Website: www.silver-linings.co.in  ;  www.silver-linings.org
Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training
–Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate
; Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying
workshops  and counseling. Printing Solutions,  Incentive Travel and
Marketing Data Mining / Refining..

We  assure  high quality service marked with excellence and complete
customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along.


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Zoher Kheriwala
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 11:50 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in
marryingblindpartners

I remember of my childhood story, I use to get 10 rs. To spent every
day. After buying Panipuri with that money I use to think I should
have bought bhel instead.
The point I want to make that whatever you want to decide for your
marrege  you should be sure that whatever you are choosing should be
best for you and make sure that your partner should also think that
you are the best possible choice. So both of the partners can live
happyly.

[AI] my quriyocity are

2014-07-01 Thread Saravanan
Dear Friends,

I am also following the discussion on this topic.
According to me, all human beeings are always having a mixture of good and evil 
thinkings and manerism in them.  But they vary in percentages among all. Some 
times good nature overcomes the evil nature and vice versa. This nature will 
diffrentiate a good and a bad person.
Simalarly, som of the nature and habits will coincide with one onother. 
Sometimes this nature  will make others to attract. Searching a partner is not 
only based on physical activity or physical nature. Mindset is the main part to 
be checked while searching for a life partner. As per indian culture, marriage 
is not a small term aggrement, It is considered to be a life time agreement.So, 
It is our duty to analyse and get an appropriate partner to schdule our life in 
all circumtances. If any thing go apart from that we should have a mentality to 
adjust that situation.Getting a good partner is the best gift of god to us. 
Enjoying or suffering the life is based on selection of partner. So, I request 
you all to have a proper analysis before selecting the life partner.
Thanks
Saravanan.K
+91 9916512402


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Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in marryingblindpartners

2014-07-01 Thread ishita kapoor
How idealistic talking going on?
I can’t ask a person working in my office to allow me to touch his or
her clothes or hand to know how it is, unless I am over confident or
hiper active.
If I am blind person then I can allow my able bodied son or daughter
to accept blind life partner willingly.
Otherwise such things happen in fictions only.
Arrange marriage between blind and sighted is only compromise.
When a non disable doesn’t get proper match in his world then only he
or she thinks to marry blind person: as something is better then
nothing.
I also love to read idealistic comments but reality is not always bookish.


On 7/1/14, George Abraham  wrote:
> 500 to 800 words. If you want to share more, you can break the and do it in
> two blog posts
>
> George
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of Preeti Monga
> Sent: 01 July 2014 13:19
> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.'
> Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in
> marryingblindpartners
>
> How many words? Will take me a few days though.
> Preeti
>
> Preeti Monga
> Director
>
>
>
> Mobile: +91 9871701646
> Landline: 011 22781446
> E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
> Website: www.silver-linings.co.in  ;  www.silver-linings.org
> Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training
> –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate
> ; Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying
> workshops  and counseling. Printing Solutions,  Incentive Travel and
> Marketing Data Mining / Refining..
>
> We  assure  high quality service marked with excellence and complete
> customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of George Abraham
> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 12:09 PM
> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.'
> Cc: 'Deepti Gahrotra'
> Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in
> marryingblindpartners
>
> Hey Preeti,
>
> Now that you have shared so much on the subject, why don't you write a blog
> post for us on the subject. I would be happy to publish.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of Preeti Monga
> Sent: 01 July 2014 10:11
> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.'
> Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in
> marryingblindpartners
>
> When we do get married, we of course feel that it is the best choice...
> but... it is only after sometime that one really finds out if you have made
> the best one! When you find out how much noise he/she makes in the
> bathroom... how he/she brushes his/her teeth... how are her/his eating
> habits... and the other daily habits and what can tip off the bad temper
> switch... all these things are not found out for certain till you begin
> living together like husband and wife!
> So there is a great deal of adjustment, and if you really have chosen the
> spouce with  matching values, you may be in good luck for a lasting
> relationship... a happy one!
> Preeti
>
> Preeti Monga
> Director
>
>
>
> Mobile: +91 9871701646
> Landline: 011 22781446
> E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
> Website: www.silver-linings.co.in  ;  www.silver-linings.org
> Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training
> –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate
> ; Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying
> workshops  and counseling. Printing Solutions,  Incentive Travel and
> Marketing Data Mining / Refining..
>
> We  assure  high quality service marked with excellence and complete
> customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of Zoher Kheriwala
> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 11:50 AM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in
> marryingblindpartners
>
> I remember of my childhood story, I use to get 10 rs. To spent every
> day. After buying Panipuri with that money I use to think I should
> have bought bhel instead.
> The point I want to make that whatever you want to decide for your
> marrege  you should be sure that whatever you are choosing should be
> best for you and make sure that your partner should also think that
> you are the best possible choice. So both of the partners can live
> happyly. The relation based on
> compromise and pressure may or may not last long, but 1 thing is sure
> that, It will not urn happiness to any of them.
> In the jurny of

Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in marryingblindpartners

2014-07-01 Thread George Abraham
500 to 800 words. If you want to share more, you can break the and do it in
two blog posts

George

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Preeti Monga
Sent: 01 July 2014 13:19
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in
marryingblindpartners

How many words? Will take me a few days though.
Preeti

Preeti Monga
Director
 

 
Mobile: +91 9871701646
Landline: 011 22781446
E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
Website: www.silver-linings.co.in  ;  www.silver-linings.org
Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training
–Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate
; Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying
workshops  and counseling. Printing Solutions,  Incentive Travel and
Marketing Data Mining / Refining..

We  assure  high quality service marked with excellence and complete
customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along.



-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of George Abraham
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 12:09 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Cc: 'Deepti Gahrotra'
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in
marryingblindpartners

Hey Preeti,

Now that you have shared so much on the subject, why don't you write a blog
post for us on the subject. I would be happy to publish.

 

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Preeti Monga
Sent: 01 July 2014 10:11
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in
marryingblindpartners

When we do get married, we of course feel that it is the best choice...
but... it is only after sometime that one really finds out if you have made
the best one! When you find out how much noise he/she makes in the
bathroom... how he/she brushes his/her teeth... how are her/his eating
habits... and the other daily habits and what can tip off the bad temper
switch... all these things are not found out for certain till you begin
living together like husband and wife!
So there is a great deal of adjustment, and if you really have chosen the
spouce with  matching values, you may be in good luck for a lasting
relationship... a happy one! 
Preeti

Preeti Monga
Director
 

 
Mobile: +91 9871701646
Landline: 011 22781446
E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in
Website: www.silver-linings.co.in  ;  www.silver-linings.org
Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training
–Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate
; Promotional;  Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying
workshops  and counseling. Printing Solutions,  Incentive Travel and
Marketing Data Mining / Refining..

We  assure  high quality service marked with excellence and complete
customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along.


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Zoher Kheriwala
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 11:50 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in
marryingblindpartners

I remember of my childhood story, I use to get 10 rs. To spent every
day. After buying Panipuri with that money I use to think I should
have bought bhel instead.
The point I want to make that whatever you want to decide for your
marrege  you should be sure that whatever you are choosing should be
best for you and make sure that your partner should also think that
you are the best possible choice. So both of the partners can live
happyly. The relation based on
compromise and pressure may or may not last long, but 1 thing is sure
that, It will not urn happiness to any of them.
In the jurny of life, you should be clear about your expectation from
your partner [the expectation   should be realistic]. When you think
that you have met the right choice, you should speak your
expectations, don't take anything for granted. At the same time be
clear about the partners expectations from you.
Just don't get married to a sited partner to substitute your
blindness. That task can be completed by hiring the employee. Many of
us run behind the sited partner because of social stigma, but we
should remember 1 thing that our spouce is not the thing of
exhibition.
In the end, You and only you are responsible for your decision, and
you have to rip the frute of your decision. So whatever you decide
please decide with at most care from both partners point of view.
Sorry for long mail.


On 6/27/14, Preeti Monga  wrote:
> You don't have to throw anyone  o

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2014-07-01 Thread Avichal Bhatnagar
Hi all,
Please clear a doubt of myne.
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I mean, there are some comboboxes which have a list which we can
easily brouze with jaws from top to bottom, but in some comboboxes, as
soon as we reach an item it gets opened.
Please guide me on how to handle such comboboxes with jaws?
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Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in marryingblindpartners

2014-07-01 Thread Preeti Monga
How many words? Will take me a few days though.
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Cc: 'Deepti Gahrotra'
Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in
marryingblindpartners

Hey Preeti,

Now that you have shared so much on the subject, why don't you write a blog
post for us on the subject. I would be happy to publish.

 

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Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in
marryingblindpartners

When we do get married, we of course feel that it is the best choice...
but... it is only after sometime that one really finds out if you have made
the best one! When you find out how much noise he/she makes in the
bathroom... how he/she brushes his/her teeth... how are her/his eating
habits... and the other daily habits and what can tip off the bad temper
switch... all these things are not found out for certain till you begin
living together like husband and wife!
So there is a great deal of adjustment, and if you really have chosen the
spouce with  matching values, you may be in good luck for a lasting
relationship... a happy one! 
Preeti

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-Original Message-
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Of Zoher Kheriwala
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 11:50 AM
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Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in
marryingblindpartners

I remember of my childhood story, I use to get 10 rs. To spent every
day. After buying Panipuri with that money I use to think I should
have bought bhel instead.
The point I want to make that whatever you want to decide for your
marrege  you should be sure that whatever you are choosing should be
best for you and make sure that your partner should also think that
you are the best possible choice. So both of the partners can live
happyly. The relation based on
compromise and pressure may or may not last long, but 1 thing is sure
that, It will not urn happiness to any of them.
In the jurny of life, you should be clear about your expectation from
your partner [the expectation   should be realistic]. When you think
that you have met the right choice, you should speak your
expectations, don't take anything for granted. At the same time be
clear about the partners expectations from you.
Just don't get married to a sited partner to substitute your
blindness. That task can be completed by hiring the employee. Many of
us run behind the sited partner because of social stigma, but we
should remember 1 thing that our spouce is not the thing of
exhibition.
In the end, You and only you are responsible for your decision, and
you have to rip the frute of your decision. So whatever you decide
please decide with at most care from both partners point of view.
Sorry for long mail.


On 6/27/14, Preeti Monga  wrote:
> You don't have to throw anyone  off. But you certainly can use the
divorce
> to part ways and begin again!
> Preeti
>
> Preeti Monga
> Director
>
>
>
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Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeople interested in marrying blind partners

2014-07-01 Thread Amar Jain
Let me share my thoughts as a growing adult on the issue of sighted vs. blind.

Choosing a blind partner: Many of us do have these doubts as to
whether a blind partner would be better than a sighted partner or not.

To my mind, the difference is in the fact that having a blind partner
would make things easy to the extent of your understanding of the
issues concerning the blindness. So, in case of a sighted person you
may need to work with them for example to not to change the place of
the things frequently as that may cause a little discomfort in your
daily work. And the disability related issues will need to be
explained to him. Which are not required to be done in case of a blind
partner at that basic level.

But that does not mean that you will have a better compatebility. That
has got nothing to do with disability per se.

It also depends how well you can play your role in that other
partner's life. I have seen many blind people arguing for a sighted
partner just because they think that their challenges of life will be
over. That type of dependence to my mind is not good for a married
life. Remember, he is your  companion not a servant or assistant.

Choosing a Sighted: Many sighted do not give a deep thought on the
issues concerning marrying a blind partner of course when that initial
resistance of others is over once they decide that they themselves
have no mental blocks in getting a blind partner. Its only at the
later stage when people realize that its a lifetime battle as regards
the answering the society, or anything else for that matter.

At that stage both need to act sensibally. For example, I would never
like to listen if my wife happens to be sighted at a later stage in
life that she made a mistake by choosing a blind partner. That can
only happen if I continue to play my active role, and I am not over
dependent on her.

The only consequence of having a blind partner which to my mind is
that how can you as a male partner ensure her safety and security. And
I am not saying that all blind females who have blind husbands are
unsafe or unsecured. Its just offering that comfort. And of course
some additional challenges like teaching your kids subjects like
Science where you yourself have the weak background, which may need to
be tackled appropriately.

Now as far as convincing a sighted partner is concerned: First and
foremost, I am of the opinion that do not try everyone and anyone.
Spend proper time, and then understand really is it what you are
looking for? Forget be it blind or sighted.

Second, I quite agree with Rajesh sir and Shadab bhaiya's views of
being yourself and having your other qualities at its best which can
then open a window for detailed and deep discussion. Disability
related challenges need to be discussed not only between the
individuals but also at the family level to avoid complications if
any.

If you have a decent earning prospects and a decent life wherein you
are capable of upbringing your family well, then it is not as big
problem as we see getting a sighted partner also. Again to emphasise,
the only important aspect is to discuss the disability related
challenges at the beginning itself to avoid issues in future.

Nikita diii is just one exceptional example. maintaining yourself as a
girl of that kind despite blindness also is a big thing to happen! But
of course city, education, family and all plays a big role in that
personality with which one comes out as an individual.

Regards,
-- 
Amar Jain.
Website: www.amarjain.com



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Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners

2014-07-01 Thread bhawani shankar verma
madam! in general you can not touch anybody. in particular you can touch 
your close friends or relative. what example you have given I am already 
doing in my office, I was talking in general not in particular.



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Hi all,
I have been reading this discussion on and off on the move but could
finally now get time to share some of my spontaneous thoughts.

I would only like to share some of my personal experience as a born
blind individual and as a wife  of a sighted person.
I have been married 3 years now it was a love but more like an arrange
marriage. Trust me its no big deal when a blind person getting married
to a sighted person. What is more important here is that how the blind
person makes his/ her sighted counterpart very comfortable. I am very
particular about all the work, house hold responsibility my duty
towards my husband and the entire family just as any other sighted
laidy is suppose to be. I always ensured that I workout the
alternative ways/ arrangements by which my husband should never feel
that his wife is any different person and that he is require to take
up more responsibility . Its important for a couple to work on
captalising  upon each other's strengths

To tell you frankly, though I cannot see, but majority  of the small
fights/ nok jhoks between me and my husband is pertaining to keeping
the house clean, keeping all the things up to date, including his upto
dateness in terms of his dressing where I keep on telling ye thik nahi
hai and ye thik hai. Some time he jokeingly asks me also "tumhe dikta
nahi hai ese mujhe nahi lagta

Its important that we as blind person are adequately confident about
our selves and having this attitude of " blind hai toh kaya hua"
really helps.
In my family, both maiden side as well as in the inlaws side, I am
taken as an example for the way I manage my house and also dress up my
self. Bhawani ji was mentioning here that we as blind person cannot
complement other on their dressing etc. but trust me its not
difficult. If you can't complement on a person's - a color of the
dress, may be u could complement on her perfume, her handback, jwelry
etc if you are able to touch it. 1 very honest trik that I use is if
say in my office 1 person is getting complements from other for her
looks or dress, from others, I also go up to her and tell her that "
mam I am feeling good and happy that a lot of people are complementing
you today I am sure u r looking good, can u describe the color of your
dress to me if you don't mind," I am sure this is suiting you very
much.

There are ways to do so.  And by and large people also realize that it
may not always be possible for you being blind to complement them
always.
Many a times, just by touching, I tell my mother in-law. "mummy this
saree is good or this saree is not as good as your that saree so you
change it.
And to tell you, when ever my husband is going for an important
meeting or occasion, its me who actually choose  his clothes from the
cubbord

He also understands me but empathizes rather than sympathizing with me.
One important thing I feel that we as blind individuals must be very
rigid about and ensure that in no situation our sighted counter part
should be under this impression that he has done a "social obligation,
or a great favor" by marrying   a blind person. Trust me if we are
really confident and free from all fears, we are just no different and
the opposite person has to understand this else he / she does not
deserves us.
I will keep on sharing my thoughts in this discussion no on.

Thanks and warm Regards,
Nikita V. Raut,
Senior Manager [HR]
Baroda Corporate Center, Bank of Baroda,


On 7/1/14, Preeti Monga  wrote:

These days very few young people look for permission to marry! So there is
nothing much you can do if your son wants to marry anyone! My current
husband's family were very against our marriage... but he ran away from
home
to marry me! Then in ten days all was well and now the family loves me
perfectly! You just have to accept your children marrying anyone. The idea
is to let them live out and find out. Just be there with them and there is
a
better chance of marriages to last if youngsters take responsibility of
choosing their partners! You find partners for them... there is bound to 
be

trouble at every spot! Because you will always be to blame for all the
little/big things that may go wrong!
Preeti

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Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in marrying blind partners

2014-07-01 Thread Ravindra Jadhav
well said Mahendrji,
Hopes, in the future both blind and sighted will be equally live
together. Slowly and gratually the avairness will be creat towards the
blind by sighted.

On 6/26/14, mahendra  wrote:
> sight is not irrelevant,  however by just marrying sighted person,
> is not an solution of the problem.
> some people think, now that they are married to sighted,  and mostly
> boy marrying girl,
> is end of the matter, that don't need to work for there relationship at
> all.
>
>
>
>
>   At 05:32 AM 6/26/2014, you wrote:
>>Well, I agree with compatibility thing.
>>However, do you mean to say sight is absolutely irrelevant to the
>> question?
>>I think not.
>>We may discuss sight or lack of it and inter marriages and
>>compatibility issues as they are affected by sight, if the moderator
>> permits..
>>
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>>Behalf Of Preeti Monga
>>Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 9:27 AM
>>To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>concerning the disabled.'
>>Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in
>>marrying blind partners
>>
>>I think the question is not sighted want to marry blind or not, it is all
>>about compatibility and what who is looking for  in his/her partner!
>>The trick is that one should marry the person with whom you would want to
>>have a life long friendship! Values, thoughts and giving is most
>> important.
>>Preeti
>>
>>Preeti Monga
>>Director
>>
>>
>>
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>>Of Ravindra Jadhav
>>Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 6:34 AM
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>>Subject: Re: [AI] my quriyocity are normel people intrested in marrying
>>blind partners
>>
>>dear, write your dout clearly. do not type the words in short. Then
>>everybody should understood your problems. Mostly mobile user like me.
>>Now coming to your dout.
>>Sighted also like to mary with visually impaired persons. For example,
>>I maried with sighted lady and i am very happy. I had only one son
>>study in grade I. In St. Xaviers school.
>>
>>On 6/25/14, suhas J  wrote:
>> > hi my name is suhas namboodiri i am blind so i wanted to knw that in
>> > todays world were people want good looking partners for them because
>> > in my case during no girls use to even talk with me and same wase with
>> > boys i am unable to makeout y people do this to us so i wanted to knw
>> > tha
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