Re: [AI] Centre no more blind to visually impaired, funds books in Braille
The braille is not all about spellings or reading speeds. When one goes through the books of science and mathemetics at the senior secondary levels or even at the secondary levels, Reading applications/Audio books prove to be of little use. Secondly, when you are addressing an audience, your braille notes would be more helpful than computers. For instance, you are presenting an artist on the stage. You need to have some readily available info about that artist while you introduce him/her to the audience. I have many a times, become a matter of joke as I forgot some very important info about the artist as I was announcing on stage regarding a music programme. I forgot the names of the accompanists. Computer is of little use at these places. Even in a seminar, when you are presenting your paper, although slides, images etc can be presented through computer, but the basic notes should be kept in braille otherwise, a very peculiar expression comes on the face as you try to search some info through Jaws or other speech synthesizer. So braille is the fundamental reading and writing tool like pencil and paper. In sighted persons too, computer use has increased and many things which previously were done on paper, are being done on computer. But they cannot say that they are going to set aside the basic tool of pen and paper. The same is true for us too. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Bhavya shah Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2015 12:42 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Centre no more blind to visually impaired, funds books in Braille Hi, I'd like to reply to the below quoted text: 'besides, braille, in adition to improving the sense of spellings of blind persons also gives them a sense of connectedness and intimacy with the book or any other reading material. given a choice where only one out of two options between audio or braille is available, I will ordinarily go for braille.' I feel that that is a subjective issue, and opting for Braille over audio is your personal preference. I find that Braille decreases my reading speed, which would be many times faster if I was using a screen reader, but again, thats my own opinion. Though I was fairly sighted until two years ago, when my spellings were reasonably good, despite not using Braille, they are equally good at present as well. Technically, they should have worsened, but by habit I perform quick character navigation on my computer to know the spelling of a word, and as a result, my spellings are as good as before. Technically, you should have been right, but practically, according to my experience, you aren't. All the same, I agree with parts of your other opinions on this topic... On 1/18/15, Poonam wrote: > first, my thanks to avinash for sharing this piece of information. it > would indeed be better if he also takes the pain to download the > article and pastes them in his mails instead of only giving the links. > javed abidi's shocking remarks about braille being an outdated concept > is a classic case of exhibiting one's downright ignorance about the > non-negotiable value and utility of braille. braille user that I > happen to be, I must say with all the emphasis at my command and with > full sense of responsibility that there is no substitute for braille > and that computer/electronic technology has the potential to > complement braille and never ever substitute braille. I do agree that > braille, like any other progressive script, has, over the years, > evolved on account of technological advancements and innovations with > the result, for instance, that we now have paperless braille rendering > the issue around storage of braille books almost redundant. thus, the > problem relating to storage of braille books can be taken care of. > besides, braille, in adition to improving the sense of spellings of > blind persons also gives them a sense of connectedness and intimacy > with the book or any other reading material. given a choice where only > one out of two options between audio or braille is available, I will > ordinarily go for braille. > be that as it may, mr. javed abidi and his ilk will be well advised > not only to desist from making irresponsible comments, among other > things, by downplaying or trivialising the value and utility of > braille and that too, without any firsthand experience but should get > their facts right before making any statements. > moreover, as a responsible newspaper, the pioneer should have spoken > to and published the views of the blind in keeping with the > established and recognised norms of journalistic ethics and > propriety. > I do hope that the organisations of the blind will lodge their protest > and resentment with the pioneer and will come out with full-throated > condemnation of such irresponsible and factually erroneous remarks
Re: [AI] Centre no more blind to visually impaired, funds books in Braille
ofcourse, it is a good initiative, but we the disabled people always think in long term perspective and be carefull that this demand is not going to segregate us from the others. therefore, in my opinion, there is need to demand online noticeboard, including mobile messages. that would long lasting, less cost, fisible and administration would think about it even in terms of tranparancy as well. so please thin of it little a bit. Celebrating Louis Braille birthday Jan4th Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] Centre no more blind to visually impaired, funds books in Braille
Though I am a senior manager in the bank, I still use Braille pocket frame to take down my notes in Braille inspite of having other resources and assistants to help me. I encourage Braille every year through conduct of Braille competitions to visually challenged and have purchased a Braille embosser to print books in Braille to provide Braille books to needy blind. Don't talk anything negative abount Braille. Regards Paul -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Poonam Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2015 12:28 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Centre no more blind to visually impaired, funds books in Braille first, my thanks to avinash for sharing this piece of information. it would indeed be better if he also takes the pain to download the article and pastes them in his mails instead of only giving the links. javed abidi's shocking remarks about braille being an outdated concept is a classic case of exhibiting one's downright ignorance about the non-negotiable value and utility of braille. braille user that I happen to be, I must say with all the emphasis at my command and with full sense of responsibility that there is no substitute for braille and that computer/electronic technology has the potential to complement braille and never ever substitute braille. I do agree that braille, like any other progressive script, has, over the years, evolved on account of technological advancements and innovations with the result, for instance, that we now have paperless braille rendering the issue around storage of braille books almost redundant. thus, the problem relating to storage of braille books can be taken care of. besides, braille, in adition to improving the sense of spellings of blind persons also gives them a sense of connectedness and intimacy with the book or any other reading material. given a choice where only one out of two options between audio or braille is available, I will ordinarily go for braille. be that as it may, mr. javed abidi and his ilk will be well advised not only to desist from making irresponsible comments, among other things, by downplaying or trivialising the value and utility of braille and that too, without any firsthand experience but should get their facts right before making any statements. moreover, as a responsible newspaper, the pioneer should have spoken to and published the views of the blind in keeping with the established and recognised norms of journalistic ethics and propriety. I do hope that the organisations of the blind will lodge their protest and resentment with the pioneer and will come out with full-throated condemnation of such irresponsible and factually erroneous remarks. Poonam. On 1/18/15, Anirban Mukherjee wrote: > braille outdated i've seldom heard such, well, let me stop myself > from giving my feelings a word,. anyway, there is no substitute of > braille. i do use technology much and often. i am a strong supporter > of advanced technology but having said that, holding a braille book in > hand and gliding my fingers through the dots give an altogether > different sensation, a thrill inexplicable, a tremendous feeling of > satisfaction. had all books been available in braille, who would have > hankered after expensive technologies! let's hope the initiative of > the organisations with the assistance of the government, (if it indeed > comes through) persons like us would rediscover our passion for this > fantastic mode of written script. > > greetings, Anirban Mukherjee > > On 1/18/15, Amiyo Biswas wrote: >> I also appreciate the government's initiative to set up new Braille >> presses >> >> and modernise existing ones through NIVH. Let us hope that we shall get >> more >> >> Braille books in future. A serious problem is that we get hardly anything >> in >> >> Braille after school, particularly in Indian languages. I want to read my >> favourite Bengali books in Braille. But just a few of them are available. >> However, we did not have text-books in Braille from class 6 in our days. >> The >> >> situation is slightly better now. >> >> As regards Braillers, these are too costly. The low-cost equipments >> produced >> >> in India too quickly go out of order. Refreshable Braille displays are >> beyond our reach. >> >> With best regards, >> Amiyo Biswas >> Cell: +91-9433464329 >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "S R Mittal" >> To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and >> issuesconcerningthe disabled.'" >> Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2015 7:35 AM >> Subject: Re: [AI] Centre no more blind to visually impaired,funds books >> in >> Braille >> >> >>>I fully agree with you Avinashji. I, that's why always support the >>> initiatives of NIVH, AICB and NFB in the efforts of promoting Braille. >>> As >>> teacher-education in the area of Special Education, I always emphasise >>> on >>> learnin
Re: [AI] Centre no more blind to visually impaired, funds books in Braille
Hi, I'd like to reply to the below quoted text: 'besides, braille, in adition to improving the sense of spellings of blind persons also gives them a sense of connectedness and intimacy with the book or any other reading material. given a choice where only one out of two options between audio or braille is available, I will ordinarily go for braille.' I feel that that is a subjective issue, and opting for Braille over audio is your personal preference. I find that Braille decreases my reading speed, which would be many times faster if I was using a screen reader, but again, thats my own opinion. Though I was fairly sighted until two years ago, when my spellings were reasonably good, despite not using Braille, they are equally good at present as well. Technically, they should have worsened, but by habit I perform quick character navigation on my computer to know the spelling of a word, and as a result, my spellings are as good as before. Technically, you should have been right, but practically, according to my experience, you aren't. All the same, I agree with parts of your other opinions on this topic... On 1/18/15, Poonam wrote: > first, my thanks to avinash for sharing this piece of information. it > would indeed be better if he also takes the pain to download the > article and pastes them in his mails instead of only giving the links. > javed abidi's shocking remarks about braille being an outdated concept > is a classic case of exhibiting one's downright ignorance about the > non-negotiable value and utility of braille. braille user that I > happen to be, I must say with all the emphasis at my command and with > full sense of responsibility that there is no substitute for braille > and that computer/electronic technology has the potential to > complement braille and never ever substitute braille. I do agree that > braille, like any other progressive script, has, over the years, > evolved on account of technological advancements and innovations with > the result, for instance, that we now have paperless braille rendering > the issue around storage of braille books almost redundant. thus, the > problem relating to storage of braille books can be taken care of. > besides, braille, in adition to improving the sense of spellings of > blind persons also gives them a sense of connectedness and intimacy > with the book or any other reading material. given a choice where only > one out of two options between audio or braille is available, I will > ordinarily go for braille. > be that as it may, mr. javed abidi and his ilk will be well advised > not only to desist from making irresponsible comments, among other > things, by downplaying or trivialising the value and utility of > braille and that too, without any firsthand experience but should get > their facts right before making any statements. > moreover, as a responsible newspaper, the pioneer should have spoken > to and published the views of the blind in keeping with the > established and recognised norms of journalistic ethics and > propriety. > I do hope that the organisations of the blind will lodge their protest > and resentment with the pioneer and will come out with full-throated > condemnation of such irresponsible and factually erroneous remarks. > > Poonam. > > On 1/18/15, Anirban Mukherjee wrote: >> braille outdated i've seldom heard such, well, let me stop myself >> from giving my feelings a word,. anyway, there is no substitute of >> braille. i do use technology much and often. i am a strong supporter >> of advanced technology but having said that, holding a braille book in >> hand and gliding my fingers through the dots give an altogether >> different sensation, a thrill inexplicable, a tremendous feeling of >> satisfaction. had all books been available in braille, who would have >> hankered after expensive technologies! let's hope the initiative of >> the organisations with the assistance of the government, (if it indeed >> comes through) persons like us would rediscover our passion for this >> fantastic mode of written script. >> >> greetings, Anirban Mukherjee >> >> On 1/18/15, Amiyo Biswas wrote: >>> I also appreciate the government's initiative to set up new Braille >>> presses >>> >>> and modernise existing ones through NIVH. Let us hope that we shall get >>> more >>> >>> Braille books in future. A serious problem is that we get hardly >>> anything >>> in >>> >>> Braille after school, particularly in Indian languages. I want to read >>> my >>> favourite Bengali books in Braille. But just a few of them are >>> available. >>> However, we did not have text-books in Braille from class 6 in our days. >>> The >>> >>> situation is slightly better now. >>> >>> As regards Braillers, these are too costly. The low-cost equipments >>> produced >>> >>> in India too quickly go out of order. Refreshable Braille displays are >>> beyond our reach. >>> >>> With best regards, >>> Amiyo Biswas >>> Cell: +91-9433464329 >>> >>> - Origin
Re: [AI] About the Song by Eloquence.
Hi, I am not absolutely surre, but most probably, the creator of this was Mr. Chetan Sagar. Unfortunately, I do not have his contact details. Hopefully someone else will provide it... On 1/18/15, Hozefa Tambawala wrote: > I don't know the name of the composer. > > On 1/18/15, Amiyo Biswas wrote: >> Hi Hozefa, >> >> I have read the tutorial. It's easy for play, but not for a song. I have >> do >> >> decide a lot of things. I don't think I can ever make it. >> >> Who did the Hindi song? You did not answer. >> >> With best regards, >> Amiyo Biswas >> Cell: +91-9433464329 >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Hozefa Tambawala" >> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues >> concerningthe disabled." >> Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2015 9:30 AM >> Subject: Re: [AI] About the Song by Eloquence. >> >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I am sharing the tutorial which will help you to achieve this. You can >>> download it from here: >>> https://www.sendspace.com/file/b5xn3d >>> >>> On 1/18/15, Amiyo Biswas wrote: Hello, I recently got the song "chura liya hay ..." sung by Eloquence. Who is the director / producer / programmer of the song? I want him to produce a Bengali Tagore song by Eloquence. The song is excellent. My friends and I myself like it. Convey our thanks to him. With best regards, Amiyo Biswas Cell: +91-9433464329 Celebrating Louis Braille birthday Jan4th Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> "Life is like a piano. >>> White keys are happy moments >>> & Black keys are sad moments. >>> But remember both keys are played together to give sweet music." >>> >>> "Focus on your abilities, not your disability." >>> >>> Follow me on Facebook: >>> https://www.facebook.com/starhoze >>> >>> Skype ID: >>> star.hoze >>> >>> Warm Regards, >>> >>> Hozefa... >>> >>> Celebrating Louis Braille birthday Jan4th >>> >>> >>> >>> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility >>> of >>> >>> mobile phones / Tabs on: >>> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>> >>> >>> Search for old postings at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >>> >>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>> >>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>> please visit the list home page at >>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>> >>> >>> Disclaimer: >>> 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of >>> the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its >>> veracity; >>> >>> 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the >>> mails >>> >>> sent through this mailing list.. >> >> >> Celebrating Louis Braille birthday Jan4th >> >> >> >> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility >> of >> mobile phones / Tabs on: >> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> >> >> Search for old postings at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >> >> To unsubscribe send a message to >> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >> with the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> please >> visit the list home page at >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> >> >> Disclaimer: >> 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of >> the >> person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; >> >> 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the >> mails >> sent through this mailing list.. >> > > > -- > "Life is like a piano. > White keys are happy moments > & Black keys are sad moments. > But remember both keys are played together to give sweet music." > > "Focus on y
Re: [AI] Centre no more blind to visually impaired, funds books in Braille
first, my thanks to avinash for sharing this piece of information. it would indeed be better if he also takes the pain to download the article and pastes them in his mails instead of only giving the links. javed abidi's shocking remarks about braille being an outdated concept is a classic case of exhibiting one's downright ignorance about the non-negotiable value and utility of braille. braille user that I happen to be, I must say with all the emphasis at my command and with full sense of responsibility that there is no substitute for braille and that computer/electronic technology has the potential to complement braille and never ever substitute braille. I do agree that braille, like any other progressive script, has, over the years, evolved on account of technological advancements and innovations with the result, for instance, that we now have paperless braille rendering the issue around storage of braille books almost redundant. thus, the problem relating to storage of braille books can be taken care of. besides, braille, in adition to improving the sense of spellings of blind persons also gives them a sense of connectedness and intimacy with the book or any other reading material. given a choice where only one out of two options between audio or braille is available, I will ordinarily go for braille. be that as it may, mr. javed abidi and his ilk will be well advised not only to desist from making irresponsible comments, among other things, by downplaying or trivialising the value and utility of braille and that too, without any firsthand experience but should get their facts right before making any statements. moreover, as a responsible newspaper, the pioneer should have spoken to and published the views of the blind in keeping with the established and recognised norms of journalistic ethics and propriety. I do hope that the organisations of the blind will lodge their protest and resentment with the pioneer and will come out with full-throated condemnation of such irresponsible and factually erroneous remarks. Poonam. On 1/18/15, Anirban Mukherjee wrote: > braille outdated i've seldom heard such, well, let me stop myself > from giving my feelings a word,. anyway, there is no substitute of > braille. i do use technology much and often. i am a strong supporter > of advanced technology but having said that, holding a braille book in > hand and gliding my fingers through the dots give an altogether > different sensation, a thrill inexplicable, a tremendous feeling of > satisfaction. had all books been available in braille, who would have > hankered after expensive technologies! let's hope the initiative of > the organisations with the assistance of the government, (if it indeed > comes through) persons like us would rediscover our passion for this > fantastic mode of written script. > > greetings, Anirban Mukherjee > > On 1/18/15, Amiyo Biswas wrote: >> I also appreciate the government's initiative to set up new Braille >> presses >> >> and modernise existing ones through NIVH. Let us hope that we shall get >> more >> >> Braille books in future. A serious problem is that we get hardly anything >> in >> >> Braille after school, particularly in Indian languages. I want to read my >> favourite Bengali books in Braille. But just a few of them are available. >> However, we did not have text-books in Braille from class 6 in our days. >> The >> >> situation is slightly better now. >> >> As regards Braillers, these are too costly. The low-cost equipments >> produced >> >> in India too quickly go out of order. Refreshable Braille displays are >> beyond our reach. >> >> With best regards, >> Amiyo Biswas >> Cell: +91-9433464329 >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "S R Mittal" >> To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and >> issuesconcerningthe disabled.'" >> Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2015 7:35 AM >> Subject: Re: [AI] Centre no more blind to visually impaired,funds books >> in >> Braille >> >> >>>I fully agree with you Avinashji. I, that's why always support the >>> initiatives of NIVH, AICB and NFB in the efforts of promoting Braille. >>> As >>> teacher-education in the area of Special Education, I always emphasise >>> on >>> learning Braille and other special skills by teacher trainees aspiring >>> to >>> become teachers of children with visual impairment. >>> >>> Regards Mittal >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On >>> Behalf >>> Of avinash shahi >>> Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2015 4:27 PM >>> To: accessindia; Shireen Irani >>> Subject: [AI] Centre no more blind to visually impaired,funds books in >>> Braille >>> >>> I do not think Braille is outdated as Mr Abidi quoted claiming in the >>> article >>> >>> Better, those who have never ever used the fully developed script, and >>> lack will-power to learn; refrain from spreading rumour about Braille >>> through media. This script is still relevant and
Re: [AI] Centre no more blind to visually impaired, funds books in Braille
Hi, I can imagine some situations where the Braille script would be more advantageous than assistive technology, but at this age, I haven't required Braille. I won't argue that Braille has 'no' relevance in the present day, because I feel that it may have some, but I am unclear of the following two statements, said by Venprakash Sir: 'Imagine if we try to impose computers and daisy tools to read books and for writing on to our primary level students, what is going to happen.!!!' I do not follow you, what will be the consequences? I recently met another visually impaired child studying in a mainstream school, who uses Braille as his means of studies, and is unwilling to switch to computers. He is financially capable, therefore he is able to get his books printed in Braille. Since his school teachers do not know Braille, he has a shadow teacher. I consider myself more fortunate than him for the means I use to study. Please clarify about the consequences of imposing computers and other assistive technology from the primary level to read and write. 'These technologies are useful only after we have undergone a specific level of studies.' If I follow you correctly, you mean that assistive technology can be used only after certain amount of training. If my interpretation is correct, then I feel you are wrong. I feel that anything can be used after productively only after a certain amount of training. This applies to assistive technology, Braille, and practically anything and everything else. Thanks. On 1/18/15, sanjay wrote: > If one of you can volunteer, the purpose wil be served. > > > -Original Message- > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf > Of Avichal Bhatnagar > Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2015 9:18 PM > To: vedprakash.sha...@gmail.com; AccessIndia: a list for discussing > accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. > Subject: Re: [AI] Centre no more blind to visually impaired, funds books in > Braille > > I have been advocating for a braille noticeboard in my college for a long > time. > There is a large number of visually impaired students in the college, > and in most of the cases they do not get to take part in various > events taking place in and around the college just because the notices > are pasted in print. > A braille noticeboard would serve the purpose. > > On 1/17/15, Vedprakash wrote: >> That would be a good initiative. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: sanjay [mailto:sanjaylpra...@yahoo.co.in] >> Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2015 5:58 PM >> To: vedprakash.sha...@gmail.com; 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing >> accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.' >> Subject: RE: [AI] Centre no more blind to visually impaired, funds books > in >> Braille >> >> I agree with both of you. Apart from Braile books, our government should >> encourage the development of affordable Braile displays which may >> encourage pupils to learn Braile. >> Here is a startling news for those who believe Braile is an outdated > stuff. >> Forget Braile, typewriters which are outdated for all of us are >> reintroduced in Germany and some other countries' Government offices to >> write and preserve secret documents. >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On > Behalf >> Of Vedprakash >> Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2015 5:15 PM >> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues > concerning >> the disabled.'; 'Shireen Irani' >> Subject: Re: [AI] Centre no more blind to visually impaired, funds books > in >> Braille >> >> Braille is the essential tool for us. >> It is a substitute for writing with pen and pencil. >> As a sighted person cannot stop using basic writing tools like pen and >> pencil, in the same way, Braille is the basic reading and writing system >> for >> us. >> Braille cannot be compared to any of the present technologies. >> Yes, we have been bennefitted with these technologies. No doubt. But that >> does not mean that Braille has no relevance with regard to our education. >> Imagine if we try to impose computers and daisy tools to read books and > for >> writing on to our primary level students, what is going to happen. >> These technologies are useful only after we have undergone a specific > level >> of studies. >> There are many more relevant features of braille which need not being >> discussed here. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On > Behalf >> Of avinash shahi >> Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2015 4:27 PM >> To: accessindia; Shireen Irani >> Subject: [AI] Centre no more blind to visually impaired, funds books in >> Braille >> >> I do not think Braille is outdated as Mr Abidi quoted claiming in the >> article >> >> Better, those who have never ever used the fully developed script, and > lack >> will-power to learn; refrain from spreading rumour about Braille through >> media. T
Re: [AI] AccessIndia Digest, Vol 61, Issue 64
Dear members The meeting been organized today is at central administrative building block B Timarpur. The active members of NFB are duly invited to solicit their presence. Regards On 17-Jan-2015 4:33 PM, wrote: > Send AccessIndia mailing list submissions to > accessindia@accessindia.org.in > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > > You can reach the person managing the list at > accessindia-ow...@accessindia.org.in > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of AccessIndia digest..." > > > Please do not reply to this digest mail. You should put your comments into > a new mail with appropriate subject line. > ___ > AccessIndia mailing list > AccessIndia@accessindia.org.in > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > Today's Topics: > >1. Re: two websites not working (B. R. Nautial) >2. Re: Jaws turns 20! Shoot your video, and get one SMA free! > (Bhavya shah) >3. Re: Adventurous people: experience with fox flying, flight > simulating, etc? (Bhavya shah) >4. Re: Adventurous people: experience with fox flying, flight > simulating, etc? (Ekinath Khedekar) >5. Centre no more blind to visually impaired,funds books in > Braille (avinash shahi) >6. ANNOUNCEMENTS FORM NFB INDIA > (National Federation of the Blind India) > > > -- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2015 15:26:55 +0530 > From: "B. R. Nautial" > To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and > issuesconcerning thedisabled." > > Subject: Re: [AI] two websites not working > Message-ID: <602BFC35130D47B9A01933BA7B35B3E7@individu18a4e7> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=response > > No sound for the 4 days > - Original Message - > From: "mahendra" > To: > Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2015 12:10 PM > Subject: [AI] two websites not working > > > > Dear Friends > > Adina and i enjoying listening to music from this two websites, > > however since few days, we are not able to listen any more as > > brodcast has stopd. > > any one knows any problem? > > wet sites are > > http://allindiaradio.gov.in/vividh.htm > > http://allindiaradio.gov.in/Gold.htm > > waiting to hear your expirianses. > > > > > > with warm regards > > > > Mahendra Galani > > skype chintu3886 Mobile+whats app+ Viber + Fasetime > > +4369917455595 Landline +4314943149 > > Addresse Herbst strasse 101/16/1 > > 1160 Vienna Austria Europe > > > > > > > > Celebrating Louis Braille birthday Jan4th > > > > > > > > Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility > of > > mobile phones / Tabs on: > > > http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > > > > Search for old postings at: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > > > To unsubscribe send a message to > > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > > with the subject unsubscribe. > > > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > > please visit the list home page at > > > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > > > > Disclaimer: > > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of > > the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its > > veracity; > > > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the > mails > > sent through this mailing list.. > > > > > -- > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2015 15:42:46 +0530 > From: Bhavya shah > To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues > concerning the disabled." > Subject: Re: [AI] Jaws turns 20! Shoot your video, and get one SMA > free! > Message-ID: > 2...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hi, > Harish Sir, > This information should be correct, since: > * Freedom Scientific has made this official announcement. > * you may have been using JAWS for DOS, while JAWS for Windows has turned > twenty > > On 1/16/15, Kotian, H P wrote: > > Hi > > I don't think this information is correct. I used Jaws much earlier even > > during the DOS days. > > > > Harish Kotian > > > > -Original Message- > > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On > Behalf > > Of Amar Jain > > Sent: 16 January 2015 16:39 > > To: accessindia > > Subject: [AI] Jaws turns 20! Shoot your video, and get one SMA free! > > > > Hi All, > > > > Let us join wishing Jaws its 20th anniversary! Jaws was a result of
Re: [AI] Centre no more blind to visually impaired, funds books in Braille
Dear Mittal Sir It is really very very surprising that there are no braille reading and writing standards yet for teachers. I believe any person desiring to be teacher of a visually challenged must read and write with high efficiency. I request one and all to request universities, colleges, NGO's to set a standard for this. Put pressure on RCI to have a national standard of braille efficiency of teachers. Nirmal On 18-Jan-2015 7:35 am, "S R Mittal" wrote: > I fully agree with you Avinashji. I, that's why always support the > initiatives of NIVH, AICB and NFB in the efforts of promoting Braille. As > teacher-education in the area of Special Education, I always emphasise on > learning Braille and other special skills by teacher trainees aspiring to > become teachers of children with visual impairment. > > Regards Mittal > > -Original Message- > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On > Behalf > Of avinash shahi > Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2015 4:27 PM > To: accessindia; Shireen Irani > Subject: [AI] Centre no more blind to visually impaired,funds books in > Braille > > I do not think Braille is outdated as Mr Abidi quoted claiming in the > article > > Better, those who have never ever used the fully developed script, and > lack will-power to learn; refrain from spreading rumour about Braille > through media. This script is still relevant and needs to be > preserved and promoted. Withstanding the tsunami in technological > advancement worldover which serves few lucky ones, Braille is an > equaliser for majority of blind people. As printed books are never > gonna off the hands so the case with Braille books. > > http://www.dailypioneer.com/nation/centre-no-more-blind-to-visually-impaired > -funds-books-in-braille.html > > -- > Avinash Shahi > Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU > > Celebrating Louis Braille birthday Jan4th > > > > Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of > mobile phones / Tabs on: > > http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessind > ia.org.in > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of > the > person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails > sent through this mailing list.. > > > Celebrating Louis Braille birthday Jan4th > > > > Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of > mobile phones / Tabs on: > > http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of > the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails > sent through this mailing list.. > Celebrating Louis Braille birthday Jan4th Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] About the Song by Eloquence.
I don't know the name of the composer. On 1/18/15, Amiyo Biswas wrote: > Hi Hozefa, > > I have read the tutorial. It's easy for play, but not for a song. I have do > > decide a lot of things. I don't think I can ever make it. > > Who did the Hindi song? You did not answer. > > With best regards, > Amiyo Biswas > Cell: +91-9433464329 > > - Original Message - > From: "Hozefa Tambawala" > To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues > concerningthe disabled." > Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2015 9:30 AM > Subject: Re: [AI] About the Song by Eloquence. > > >> Hi, >> >> I am sharing the tutorial which will help you to achieve this. You can >> download it from here: >> https://www.sendspace.com/file/b5xn3d >> >> On 1/18/15, Amiyo Biswas wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> I recently got the song "chura liya hay ..." sung by Eloquence. Who is >>> the >>> director / producer / programmer of the song? I want him to produce a >>> Bengali Tagore song by Eloquence. >>> >>> The song is excellent. My friends and I myself like it. Convey our thanks >>> >>> to >>> him. >>> >>> With best regards, >>> Amiyo Biswas >>> Cell: +91-9433464329 >>> Celebrating Louis Braille birthday Jan4th >>> >>> >>> >>> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility >>> of >>> mobile phones / Tabs on: >>> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>> >>> >>> Search for old postings at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >>> >>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>> >>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>> please >>> visit the list home page at >>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>> >>> >>> Disclaimer: >>> 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of >>> >>> the >>> person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; >>> >>> 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the >>> mails >>> sent through this mailing list.. >>> >> >> >> -- >> "Life is like a piano. >> White keys are happy moments >> & Black keys are sad moments. >> But remember both keys are played together to give sweet music." >> >> "Focus on your abilities, not your disability." >> >> Follow me on Facebook: >> https://www.facebook.com/starhoze >> >> Skype ID: >> star.hoze >> >> Warm Regards, >> >> Hozefa... >> >> Celebrating Louis Braille birthday Jan4th >> >> >> >> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of >> >> mobile phones / Tabs on: >> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> >> >> Search for old postings at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >> >> To unsubscribe send a message to >> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >> with the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> please visit the list home page at >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> >> >> Disclaimer: >> 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of >> the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its >> veracity; >> >> 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails >> >> sent through this mailing list.. > > > Celebrating Louis Braille birthday Jan4th > > > > Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of > mobile phones / Tabs on: > http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the > person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails > sent through this mailing list.. > -- "Life is like a piano. White keys are happy moments & Black keys are sad moments. But remember both keys are played together to give sweet music." "Focus on your abilities, not your disability." Follow me on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/starhoze Skype ID: star.hoze Warm Regards, Hozefa... Celebrating Louis Braille birthday Jan4th Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/a
Re: [AI] Centre no more blind to visually impaired, funds books in Braille
If one of you can volunteer, the purpose wil be served. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Avichal Bhatnagar Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2015 9:18 PM To: vedprakash.sha...@gmail.com; AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Centre no more blind to visually impaired, funds books in Braille I have been advocating for a braille noticeboard in my college for a long time. There is a large number of visually impaired students in the college, and in most of the cases they do not get to take part in various events taking place in and around the college just because the notices are pasted in print. A braille noticeboard would serve the purpose. On 1/17/15, Vedprakash wrote: > That would be a good initiative. > > -Original Message- > From: sanjay [mailto:sanjaylpra...@yahoo.co.in] > Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2015 5:58 PM > To: vedprakash.sha...@gmail.com; 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing > accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.' > Subject: RE: [AI] Centre no more blind to visually impaired, funds books in > Braille > > I agree with both of you. Apart from Braile books, our government should > encourage the development of affordable Braile displays which may > encourage pupils to learn Braile. > Here is a startling news for those who believe Braile is an outdated stuff. > Forget Braile, typewriters which are outdated for all of us are > reintroduced in Germany and some other countries' Government offices to > write and preserve secret documents. > > > > -Original Message- > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf > Of Vedprakash > Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2015 5:15 PM > To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning > the disabled.'; 'Shireen Irani' > Subject: Re: [AI] Centre no more blind to visually impaired, funds books in > Braille > > Braille is the essential tool for us. > It is a substitute for writing with pen and pencil. > As a sighted person cannot stop using basic writing tools like pen and > pencil, in the same way, Braille is the basic reading and writing system > for > us. > Braille cannot be compared to any of the present technologies. > Yes, we have been bennefitted with these technologies. No doubt. But that > does not mean that Braille has no relevance with regard to our education. > Imagine if we try to impose computers and daisy tools to read books and for > writing on to our primary level students, what is going to happen. > These technologies are useful only after we have undergone a specific level > of studies. > There are many more relevant features of braille which need not being > discussed here. > > -Original Message- > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf > Of avinash shahi > Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2015 4:27 PM > To: accessindia; Shireen Irani > Subject: [AI] Centre no more blind to visually impaired, funds books in > Braille > > I do not think Braille is outdated as Mr Abidi quoted claiming in the > article > > Better, those who have never ever used the fully developed script, and lack > will-power to learn; refrain from spreading rumour about Braille through > media. This script is still relevant and needs to be preserved and > promoted. Withstanding the tsunami in technological advancement worldover > which serves few lucky ones, Braille is an equaliser for majority of blind > people. As printed books are never gonna off the hands so the case with > Braille books. > http://www.dailypioneer.com/nation/centre-no-more-blind-to-visually-impaired > -funds-books-in-braille.html > > -- > Avinash Shahi > Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU > > Celebrating Louis Braille birthday Jan4th > > > > Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of > mobile phones / Tabs on: > http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessind > ia.org.in > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of > the > person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails > sent through this mailing list.. > > > Celebrating Louis Braille birthday Jan4th > > > > Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of > mobile phones / Tabs on: > http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessind >
Re: [AI] About the Song by Eloquence.
Hi Hozefa, I have read the tutorial. It's easy for play, but not for a song. I have do decide a lot of things. I don't think I can ever make it. Who did the Hindi song? You did not answer. With best regards, Amiyo Biswas Cell: +91-9433464329 - Original Message - From: "Hozefa Tambawala" To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled." Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2015 9:30 AM Subject: Re: [AI] About the Song by Eloquence. Hi, I am sharing the tutorial which will help you to achieve this. You can download it from here: https://www.sendspace.com/file/b5xn3d On 1/18/15, Amiyo Biswas wrote: Hello, I recently got the song "chura liya hay ..." sung by Eloquence. Who is the director / producer / programmer of the song? I want him to produce a Bengali Tagore song by Eloquence. The song is excellent. My friends and I myself like it. Convey our thanks to him. With best regards, Amiyo Biswas Cell: +91-9433464329 Celebrating Louis Braille birthday Jan4th Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- "Life is like a piano. White keys are happy moments & Black keys are sad moments. But remember both keys are played together to give sweet music." "Focus on your abilities, not your disability." Follow me on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/starhoze Skype ID: star.hoze Warm Regards, Hozefa... Celebrating Louis Braille birthday Jan4th Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Celebrating Louis Braille birthday Jan4th Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] Sendspace Problem.
Great, it is working. I used it now for the tutorial on how to make eloquence sing. Thank you for the information. I also discovered today that sendspace is working in firefox on my pc. With best regards, Amiyo Biswas Cell: +91-9433464329 - Original Message - From: "B. R. Nautial" To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled." Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2015 8:37 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Sendspace Problem. of course! its not working in various parts of India but you can download anything from sendspace, once you go to www.hiload.org. once you view this site, find out the edit box and paste the download link of that item, witch you got from sendspace to download and save the item accordingly. - Original Message - From: "Amiyo Biswas" To: Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2015 7:59 AM Subject: [AI] Sendspace Problem. sendspace is not working again for me and some of my friends. Is it blocked again? With best regards, Amiyo Biswas Cell: +91-9433464329 Celebrating Louis Braille birthday Jan4th Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Celebrating Louis Braille birthday Jan4th Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Celebrating Louis Braille birthday Jan4th Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] Centre no more blind to visually impaired, funds books in Braille
braille outdated i've seldom heard such, well, let me stop myself from giving my feelings a word,. anyway, there is no substitute of braille. i do use technology much and often. i am a strong supporter of advanced technology but having said that, holding a braille book in hand and gliding my fingers through the dots give an altogether different sensation, a thrill inexplicable, a tremendous feeling of satisfaction. had all books been available in braille, who would have hankered after expensive technologies! let's hope the initiative of the organisations with the assistance of the government, (if it indeed comes through) persons like us would rediscover our passion for this fantastic mode of written script. greetings, Anirban Mukherjee On 1/18/15, Amiyo Biswas wrote: > I also appreciate the government's initiative to set up new Braille presses > > and modernise existing ones through NIVH. Let us hope that we shall get more > > Braille books in future. A serious problem is that we get hardly anything in > > Braille after school, particularly in Indian languages. I want to read my > favourite Bengali books in Braille. But just a few of them are available. > However, we did not have text-books in Braille from class 6 in our days. The > > situation is slightly better now. > > As regards Braillers, these are too costly. The low-cost equipments produced > > in India too quickly go out of order. Refreshable Braille displays are > beyond our reach. > > With best regards, > Amiyo Biswas > Cell: +91-9433464329 > > - Original Message - > From: "S R Mittal" > To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and > issuesconcerningthe disabled.'" > Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2015 7:35 AM > Subject: Re: [AI] Centre no more blind to visually impaired,funds books in > Braille > > >>I fully agree with you Avinashji. I, that's why always support the >> initiatives of NIVH, AICB and NFB in the efforts of promoting Braille. As >> teacher-education in the area of Special Education, I always emphasise on >> learning Braille and other special skills by teacher trainees aspiring to >> become teachers of children with visual impairment. >> >> Regards Mittal >> >> -Original Message- >> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On >> Behalf >> Of avinash shahi >> Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2015 4:27 PM >> To: accessindia; Shireen Irani >> Subject: [AI] Centre no more blind to visually impaired,funds books in >> Braille >> >> I do not think Braille is outdated as Mr Abidi quoted claiming in the >> article >> >> Better, those who have never ever used the fully developed script, and >> lack will-power to learn; refrain from spreading rumour about Braille >> through media. This script is still relevant and needs to be >> preserved and promoted. Withstanding the tsunami in technological >> advancement worldover which serves few lucky ones, Braille is an >> equaliser for majority of blind people. As printed books are never >> gonna off the hands so the case with Braille books. >> http://www.dailypioneer.com/nation/centre-no-more-blind-to-visually-impaired >> -funds-books-in-braille.html >> >> -- >> Avinash Shahi >> Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU >> >> Celebrating Louis Braille birthday Jan4th >> >> >> >> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility >> of >> mobile phones / Tabs on: >> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessind >> ia.org.in >> >> >> Search for old postings at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >> >> To unsubscribe send a message to >> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >> with the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> please >> visit the list home page at >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> >> >> Disclaimer: >> 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of >> the >> person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; >> >> 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the >> mails >> sent through this mailing list.. >> >> >> Celebrating Louis Braille birthday Jan4th >> >> >> >> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of >> >> mobile phones / Tabs on: >> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> >> >> Search for old postings at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >> >> To unsubscribe send a message to >> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >> with the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> please visit the list home page at >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> >> >> Disclaimer: >> 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of >> the person sending
Re: [AI] About the Song by Eloquence.
Hi, I am sharing the tutorial which will help you to achieve this. You can download it from here: https://www.sendspace.com/file/b5xn3d On 1/18/15, Amiyo Biswas wrote: > Hello, > > I recently got the song "chura liya hay ..." sung by Eloquence. Who is the > director / producer / programmer of the song? I want him to produce a > Bengali Tagore song by Eloquence. > > The song is excellent. My friends and I myself like it. Convey our thanks to > him. > > With best regards, > Amiyo Biswas > Cell: +91-9433464329 > Celebrating Louis Braille birthday Jan4th > > > > Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of > mobile phones / Tabs on: > http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the > person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails > sent through this mailing list.. > -- "Life is like a piano. White keys are happy moments & Black keys are sad moments. But remember both keys are played together to give sweet music." "Focus on your abilities, not your disability." Follow me on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/starhoze Skype ID: star.hoze Warm Regards, Hozefa... Celebrating Louis Braille birthday Jan4th Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
[AI] About the Song by Eloquence.
Hello, I recently got the song "chura liya hay ..." sung by Eloquence. Who is the director / producer / programmer of the song? I want him to produce a Bengali Tagore song by Eloquence. The song is excellent. My friends and I myself like it. Convey our thanks to him. With best regards, Amiyo Biswas Cell: +91-9433464329 Celebrating Louis Braille birthday Jan4th Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] Centre no more blind to visually impaired, funds books in Braille
I also appreciate the government's initiative to set up new Braille presses and modernise existing ones through NIVH. Let us hope that we shall get more Braille books in future. A serious problem is that we get hardly anything in Braille after school, particularly in Indian languages. I want to read my favourite Bengali books in Braille. But just a few of them are available. However, we did not have text-books in Braille from class 6 in our days. The situation is slightly better now. As regards Braillers, these are too costly. The low-cost equipments produced in India too quickly go out of order. Refreshable Braille displays are beyond our reach. With best regards, Amiyo Biswas Cell: +91-9433464329 - Original Message - From: "S R Mittal" To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerningthe disabled.'" Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2015 7:35 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Centre no more blind to visually impaired,funds books in Braille I fully agree with you Avinashji. I, that's why always support the initiatives of NIVH, AICB and NFB in the efforts of promoting Braille. As teacher-education in the area of Special Education, I always emphasise on learning Braille and other special skills by teacher trainees aspiring to become teachers of children with visual impairment. Regards Mittal -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of avinash shahi Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2015 4:27 PM To: accessindia; Shireen Irani Subject: [AI] Centre no more blind to visually impaired,funds books in Braille I do not think Braille is outdated as Mr Abidi quoted claiming in the article Better, those who have never ever used the fully developed script, and lack will-power to learn; refrain from spreading rumour about Braille through media. This script is still relevant and needs to be preserved and promoted. Withstanding the tsunami in technological advancement worldover which serves few lucky ones, Braille is an equaliser for majority of blind people. As printed books are never gonna off the hands so the case with Braille books. http://www.dailypioneer.com/nation/centre-no-more-blind-to-visually-impaired -funds-books-in-braille.html -- Avinash Shahi Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU Celebrating Louis Braille birthday Jan4th Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessind ia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Celebrating Louis Braille birthday Jan4th Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Celebrating Louis Braille birthday Jan4th Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] Centre no more blind to visually impaired, funds books in Braille
I fully agree with you Avinashji. I, that's why always support the initiatives of NIVH, AICB and NFB in the efforts of promoting Braille. As teacher-education in the area of Special Education, I always emphasise on learning Braille and other special skills by teacher trainees aspiring to become teachers of children with visual impairment. Regards Mittal -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of avinash shahi Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2015 4:27 PM To: accessindia; Shireen Irani Subject: [AI] Centre no more blind to visually impaired,funds books in Braille I do not think Braille is outdated as Mr Abidi quoted claiming in the article Better, those who have never ever used the fully developed script, and lack will-power to learn; refrain from spreading rumour about Braille through media. This script is still relevant and needs to be preserved and promoted. Withstanding the tsunami in technological advancement worldover which serves few lucky ones, Braille is an equaliser for majority of blind people. As printed books are never gonna off the hands so the case with Braille books. http://www.dailypioneer.com/nation/centre-no-more-blind-to-visually-impaired -funds-books-in-braille.html -- Avinash Shahi Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU Celebrating Louis Braille birthday Jan4th Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessind ia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Celebrating Louis Braille birthday Jan4th Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] Adventurous people: experience with fox flying, flight simulating, etc?
Erik Wahenmayer is the name! You can read his autobiography called "Touching The Top". It is a very gripping and inspiring book. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Bhavya shah Sent: 17 January 2015 15:53 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Adventurous people: experience with fox flying, flight simulating, etc? I've done trekking some months ago in Karnala, trekked uphill with friends, but felt downhill was a bit riskier, so partially came down with friends, and partially with our trekking instructor. It was a good experience, totally doable. I had done horse riding some years ago, when I was fairly sighted, I can't remember any part where you'd need sight. I simply had to hold onto the horse, and the rest would be done by it and its trainer. Totally doable again. Quite some time ago, someone shared an news article, where a couple of visually impaired people (a few of them are on this list) had done some serious trekking/climbing, hope one of them shares their experience here. By the way, a question from me, I had heard, I may be totally mistaken because I'm absolutely unsure, but had heard that there was a blind person who had climbed the 17 highest peaks in the world? Is something like this actually true, if so, could you share that mountaineer's name, and any related information, would be interesting. On 1/16/15, Mohammed Asif iqbal wrote: > I did rock climbing , rappling several years ago. I would love to have an > opportunity to do so again. > Smile. > Asif > > > -Original Message- > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf > Of Kiran Kaja > Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 12:58 PM > To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning > the disabled.' > Subject: Re: [AI] Adventurous people: experience with fox flying, flight > simulating, etc? > > I did skydiving last March. It was a lot of fun. > > -Original Message- > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf > Of Amar Jain > Sent: 16 January 2015 06:17 > To: accessindia > Subject: [AI] Adventurous people: experience with fox flying, flight > simulating, etc? > > Guys, has anyone on the list tried things like flight simulators, rock > climing (through zorbing), fox flying, biking, horse riding, if so, can you > please share your experiences and any tips whatsoever? > > I want to know in and out of it, so that I can convince the professionals > in > an adventurous park. > > Regards, > -- > Amar Jain. > Website: www.amarjain.com > > Celebrating Louis Braille birthday Jan4th > > > > Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of > mobile phones / Tabs on: > http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessin d > ia.org.in > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of > the > person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails > sent through this mailing list.. > > > Celebrating Louis Braille birthday Jan4th > > > > Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of > mobile phones / Tabs on: > http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessin d > ia.org.in > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of > the > person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails > sent through this mailing list.. > > > Celebrating Louis Braille birthday Jan4th > > > > Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of > mobile phones / Tabs on: > http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessin dia.org.in > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > with the subject unsubscribe. >
Re: [AI] Adventurous people: experience with fox flying, flight simulating, etc?
Yes, Amar. As said by others, you need a good guy to support you. I've done banana ride, parasliding and water scooter in Goa. Also, I've done some trecking at Koorg(Karnataka) with my friends of about 3 KMs. Also, I crossed Kaveri river at its least depth near Koorg for about half a KM where the water is only till waist level and the under water ground is full of stones. All this possible because friends who knew me since childhood were with me throughout these things and guiding me as to what lied ahead. When I talk about Koorg forest, most dreadful experience was when we climed a small hill top and then a wild elephant came up the valley and crossed the downside way. My friends were narrating everything about its movements and directions and warned me to be ready to run when necessary! They said not to think about it and hold their hands while running. Though I became a bit tense then, it seems funny when I think back about it. On 1/17/15, Prashant Verma wrote: > We have done para gliding, para sailing, bungee jumping, horse riding, speed > boating, banana boating, rafting, trekking etc. I am partially sighted and > Veena is totally blind. > All these are doable, just need the operators to be sensitive and > supportive. > > > > -Original Message- > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf > Of Ekinath Khedekar > Sent: 17 January 2015 16:06 > To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning > the disabled. > Subject: Re: [AI] Adventurous people: experience with fox flying, flight > simulating, etc? > > Hey Amar, > > I am gonna be there and i hope you will try these things this time. I have > tried following: > > Rock climing - > I did this at Kolad. And i was amongst few of our company employees to reach > the summet. It's lot of fun ad strength and technique. Will tell you > tomorrow. > A sighted oral guidance is needed from the ground, like to your left, up, > down etc. for finding fissures and projections to hold ourselves. > This is a slippery business and you will have to trust the rope holding you > J)). > But i don't know what is rock climbing (through zorbing), > > fox flying: > Hey, it is really not flying. You just walk on the rope frame, surrounded by > well covered ropes, > > Biking: > Not sure if it is like a biking done in malls. Then i wonder if a VI can > enjoy at all. > > horse riding: > Most fulfilling for me. Because i love animals and you don't feel dependant > much if horse knows it's charted way to trot or run. No risk of banging in > to anything as horse can see J You've got to have a good padding under your > seat J))) Only caution is horse should be a obedient one and you shall know > how to rein it in. > > No idea about flight simulators but most simulators VI may not enjoy as he > will only feel the vibration and jerks and it's not much fun for the VI like > in 4d movies. > > Hey but there are more exciting stuff at Imagica. M waiting for the rides > such as Nitro, screamer, D2, Space 360-free fall and I for India. > > I am going to request Payal to insist everyone to be on time so we don't > waste a precious time and please bring your swimming clothes so we are not > shy of trying water cannon rides. > > ~cheers > > > > > > On 1/17/15, Bhavya shah wrote: >> I've done trekking some months ago in Karnala, trekked uphill with >> friends, but felt downhill was a bit riskier, so partially came down >> with friends, and partially with our trekking instructor. It was a >> good experience, totally doable. >> I had done horse riding some years ago, when I was fairly sighted, I >> can't remember any part where you'd need sight. I simply had to hold >> onto the horse, and the rest would be done by it and its trainer. >> Totally doable again. >> Quite some time ago, someone shared an news article, where a couple of >> visually impaired people (a few of them are on this list) had done >> some serious trekking/climbing, hope one of them shares their >> experience here. >> By the way, a question from me, I had heard, I may be totally mistaken >> because I'm absolutely unsure, but had heard that there was a blind >> person who had climbed the 17 highest peaks in the world? Is something >> like this actually true, if so, could you share that mountaineer's >> name, and any related information, would be interesting. >> >> On 1/16/15, Mohammed Asif iqbal wrote: >>> I did rock climbing , rappling several years ago. I would love to >>> have an opportunity to do so again. >>> Smile. >>> Asif >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On >>> Behalf Of Kiran Kaja >>> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 12:58 PM >>> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues >>> concerning the disabled.' >>> Subject: Re: [AI] Adventurous people: experience with fox flying, >>> flight simulating, etc? >>> >>> I did skydiving last March. It was a lot of fun.
Re: [AI] my dout
Hi, better focus on interview at this juncture... When you have both option as a job then comparison part comes in. On 1/17/15, suhas J wrote: > hi a very good eve to all. friends i have go to interiew calls one is > for ibps clerical and other for united india insureance for the post > office assist. so pl help rigarding which has more scope? and which > would give me a better pay. pls guide me thanks > > Celebrating Louis Braille birthday Jan4th > > > > Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of > mobile phones / Tabs on: > http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the > person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails > sent through this mailing list.. > -- Thanks and regards Himanshu Sahu Reach: 09051055000 Skype: himanshu.cute4u Celebrating Louis Braille birthday Jan4th Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] Adventurous people: experience with fox flying, flight simulating, etc?
We have done para gliding, para sailing, bungee jumping, horse riding, speed boating, banana boating, rafting, trekking etc. I am partially sighted and Veena is totally blind. All these are doable, just need the operators to be sensitive and supportive. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Ekinath Khedekar Sent: 17 January 2015 16:06 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Adventurous people: experience with fox flying, flight simulating, etc? Hey Amar, I am gonna be there and i hope you will try these things this time. I have tried following: Rock climing - I did this at Kolad. And i was amongst few of our company employees to reach the summet. It’s lot of fun ad strength and technique. Will tell you tomorrow. A sighted oral guidance is needed from the ground, like to your left, up, down etc. for finding fissures and projections to hold ourselves. This is a slippery business and you will have to trust the rope holding you J)). But i don’t know what is rock climbing (through zorbing), fox flying: Hey, it is really not flying. You just walk on the rope frame, surrounded by well covered ropes, Biking: Not sure if it is like a biking done in malls. Then i wonder if a VI can enjoy at all. horse riding: Most fulfilling for me. Because i love animals and you don’t feel dependant much if horse knows it’s charted way to trot or run. No risk of banging in to anything as horse can see J You’ve got to have a good padding under your seat J))) Only caution is horse should be a obedient one and you shall know how to rein it in. No idea about flight simulators but most simulators VI may not enjoy as he will only feel the vibration and jerks and it’s not much fun for the VI like in 4d movies. Hey but there are more exciting stuff at Imagica. M waiting for the rides such as Nitro, screamer, D2, Space 360-free fall and I for India. I am going to request Payal to insist everyone to be on time so we don’t waste a precious time and please bring your swimming clothes so we are not shy of trying water cannon rides. ~cheers On 1/17/15, Bhavya shah wrote: > I've done trekking some months ago in Karnala, trekked uphill with > friends, but felt downhill was a bit riskier, so partially came down > with friends, and partially with our trekking instructor. It was a > good experience, totally doable. > I had done horse riding some years ago, when I was fairly sighted, I > can't remember any part where you'd need sight. I simply had to hold > onto the horse, and the rest would be done by it and its trainer. > Totally doable again. > Quite some time ago, someone shared an news article, where a couple of > visually impaired people (a few of them are on this list) had done > some serious trekking/climbing, hope one of them shares their > experience here. > By the way, a question from me, I had heard, I may be totally mistaken > because I'm absolutely unsure, but had heard that there was a blind > person who had climbed the 17 highest peaks in the world? Is something > like this actually true, if so, could you share that mountaineer's > name, and any related information, would be interesting. > > On 1/16/15, Mohammed Asif iqbal wrote: >> I did rock climbing , rappling several years ago. I would love to >> have an opportunity to do so again. >> Smile. >> Asif >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On >> Behalf Of Kiran Kaja >> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 12:58 PM >> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues >> concerning the disabled.' >> Subject: Re: [AI] Adventurous people: experience with fox flying, >> flight simulating, etc? >> >> I did skydiving last March. It was a lot of fun. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On >> Behalf Of Amar Jain >> Sent: 16 January 2015 06:17 >> To: accessindia >> Subject: [AI] Adventurous people: experience with fox flying, flight >> simulating, etc? >> >> Guys, has anyone on the list tried things like flight simulators, >> rock climing (through zorbing), fox flying, biking, horse riding, if >> so, can you please share your experiences and any tips whatsoever? >> >> I want to know in and out of it, so that I can convince the >> professionals in an adventurous park. >> >> Regards, >> -- >> Amar Jain. >> Website: www.amarjain.com >> >> Celebrating Louis Braille birthday Jan4th >> >> >> >> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing >> accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: >> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_ac >> cessind >> ia.org.in >> >> >> Search for old postings at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >> >> To unsubscribe send a message to >> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.
Re: [AI] Visually challenged parent - sighted child...How to bridge the gap?
Hi Payal, If you want your child to write and specifically using his imagination and creativity then it is necessary that the child should develop practice of reading books. It is interesting to note that people who have speech disability is primarily due to hearing impediment, as they are hearing impaired they do not develop the understanding for alphobets and words and thus are speech impaired. So reading precedes writing and listening precedes speaking. On 1/17/15, Sushmeetha wrote: > Dear Payal > > May be my suggestion does not solve your problem totally, but still read on. > > > At one of Voice Vision knowledge session, we had Mr. & Mrs. Rapose sharing > their experience on blind parenting. > > They shared their experience in upbringing sighted kids. In which Mrs. Padma > firmly shared that she always wanted her kids to have good handwriting and > also writing skills. > To achieve her wish she hired a learned/ professional tution teacher and > regularly use to check with the teacher about their written assignments and > progress. > > As I know you are late blind and you fairly know how to write. My > suggestion, if you do so alongwith trying yourself to write in your best of > handwriting. Where in the teacher can guide you too, that which of your > alphabets are not in proper shape, you may be able to communicate in written > with your son too. > To avoid over writing on lines, you may use a tactile format of a ruled > page. > > Hope this helps, wish to hear your feedback. > > Best Regards, > Sushmeetha B. Bubna │ Founder Director > > Voice Vision > 103, Synthofine Estate,' A'- Wing, Off Aarey Road, Goregaon (E), Mumbai - > 400 063. > Work Phone: +91 22 4040 │ Fax: +91 22 40400123 │ Hand Phone: +91 > 9820566010 > Email: sushmee...@voicevision.in │ Web: www.voicevision.in > Basudeo Bubna Memorial Trust │ Web: www.bubna.com > Facebook www.facebook.com/voicevisionfans > > Current Events: > > Read blog on shopping experience with and without eyesight @ > http://voicevision.in/content/shopping-experience-and-without-eyesight > > > Splendid post! Yes there is a way forward in every situation. We just need > to take time to figure it out. > > -Original Message- > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf > Of mukesh jain > Sent: 17 January 2015 12:52 > To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning > the disabled. > Subject: Re: [AI] Visually challenged parent - sighted child...How to > bridge the gap? > > Ouch, what a great topic, > The first piece of advice I can give to any blind person, whether they > are a parent or not, is to teach yourself to read and write print or > have someone > help you learn. Sometimes there is no Braille and it is useful to know > how to read raised or indented print, and this is especially an > important skill > for those who wish to become parents. It's also good to know how to > write actual letters so your signature isn't just a scribble that's > easier than most > signatures to forge and so that it is at least somewhat legible. How > do you learn print? Well, here are a few suggestions. > > The first thing you can do to learn print letters is to buy alphabet > refrigerator magnets, both in upper and lower cases. For those who > don't know about this item, I can tell you that these comes in ABC > Magnets form and come in a set of 26 and are ideal for sprucing up > your refrigerator, filing cabinet or any other metal surface! The > strong magnetshold firmly and resist sliding or falling off, and the > bright colors are fun and cheerful for your children to teach the > alphabets! > > When you take them out of the package, they should in theory be in > order, but if not, have someone who knows the letters order them for > you on a refrigerator, dry erase board, or other magnetized surface, > so that you can feel each letter and learn its shape. Practice feeling > the letters often until you have them down, then have someone test you > on them until you've mastered identifying them by touch. Make sure to > do this with both cases as lower case print letters do not always look > the > same as upper case ones. There are only a few exceptions, such as S, > X, and Z. Then you can move on to the next step. > > Now you are ready for letter and number stencils. These will teach you > two things. First off they will teach you to read indented print, as > the stencil > will have holes in the shape of the letters. It shouldn't take too > long to master the indented versions once you've gotten the raised > magnets down. Now > you can use them to write. Take a pen and paper and practice tracing > the letters in the stencil until you have it down. The stencil will > act as a guide > so you should draw them correctly. Once you've mastered that, you can > practice drawing the letters freehand and even working on your > signature if necessary. > Now you're ready to help a child learn to read and write.
Re: [AI] storyboarding software
Hi, What is storyboarding? A quick google search revealed that is is something related to organisation of graphics, how could it be made accessible? I'm just asking out of curiosity... On 1/17/15, Ruchi wrote: > Dear all, do we know of any accessible storyboarding softwares?? > > Ruchi Patil > Samruddha Resources Limited > 6th Floor, 'A' Block, Shivsagar Estate > Dr. Annie Besant Road, Worli, Mumbai 400 018 > Tel.: (91 22) 6661 9000 > Fax: (91 22) 6661 9090 > Cell: 9769111233 > Celebrating Louis Braille birthday Jan4th > > > > Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of > mobile phones / Tabs on: > http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the > person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails > sent through this mailing list.. > -- Warm Regards Bhavya Let me wish you a very Happy New Year before the phone lines get jammed and internet hanged. Happy New Year 2015 ! Reach me through the following means: Mobile: +91 7506221750 Telephone: +022 23076950 E-mail id: bhavya.shah...@gmail.com Skype id : bhavya.09 Celebrating Louis Braille birthday Jan4th Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] Centre no more blind to visually impaired, funds books in Braille
I have been advocating for a braille noticeboard in my college for a long time. There is a large number of visually impaired students in the college, and in most of the cases they do not get to take part in various events taking place in and around the college just because the notices are pasted in print. A braille noticeboard would serve the purpose. On 1/17/15, Vedprakash wrote: > That would be a good initiative. > > -Original Message- > From: sanjay [mailto:sanjaylpra...@yahoo.co.in] > Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2015 5:58 PM > To: vedprakash.sha...@gmail.com; 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing > accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.' > Subject: RE: [AI] Centre no more blind to visually impaired, funds books in > Braille > > I agree with both of you. Apart from Braile books, our government should > encourage the development of affordable Braile displays which may > encourage pupils to learn Braile. > Here is a startling news for those who believe Braile is an outdated stuff. > Forget Braile, typewriters which are outdated for all of us are > reintroduced in Germany and some other countries' Government offices to > write and preserve secret documents. > > > > -Original Message- > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf > Of Vedprakash > Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2015 5:15 PM > To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning > the disabled.'; 'Shireen Irani' > Subject: Re: [AI] Centre no more blind to visually impaired, funds books in > Braille > > Braille is the essential tool for us. > It is a substitute for writing with pen and pencil. > As a sighted person cannot stop using basic writing tools like pen and > pencil, in the same way, Braille is the basic reading and writing system > for > us. > Braille cannot be compared to any of the present technologies. > Yes, we have been bennefitted with these technologies. No doubt. But that > does not mean that Braille has no relevance with regard to our education. > Imagine if we try to impose computers and daisy tools to read books and for > writing on to our primary level students, what is going to happen. > These technologies are useful only after we have undergone a specific level > of studies. > There are many more relevant features of braille which need not being > discussed here. > > -Original Message- > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf > Of avinash shahi > Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2015 4:27 PM > To: accessindia; Shireen Irani > Subject: [AI] Centre no more blind to visually impaired, funds books in > Braille > > I do not think Braille is outdated as Mr Abidi quoted claiming in the > article > > Better, those who have never ever used the fully developed script, and lack > will-power to learn; refrain from spreading rumour about Braille through > media. This script is still relevant and needs to be preserved and > promoted. Withstanding the tsunami in technological advancement worldover > which serves few lucky ones, Braille is an equaliser for majority of blind > people. As printed books are never gonna off the hands so the case with > Braille books. > http://www.dailypioneer.com/nation/centre-no-more-blind-to-visually-impaired > -funds-books-in-braille.html > > -- > Avinash Shahi > Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU > > Celebrating Louis Braille birthday Jan4th > > > > Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of > mobile phones / Tabs on: > http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessind > ia.org.in > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of > the > person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails > sent through this mailing list.. > > > Celebrating Louis Braille birthday Jan4th > > > > Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of > mobile phones / Tabs on: > http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessind > ia.org.in > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > Disclaimer: >
[AI] storyboarding software
Dear all, do we know of any accessible storyboarding softwares?? Ruchi Patil Samruddha Resources Limited 6th Floor, 'A' Block, Shivsagar Estate Dr. Annie Besant Road, Worli, Mumbai 400 018 Tel.: (91 22) 6661 9000 Fax: (91 22) 6661 9090 Cell: 9769111233 Celebrating Louis Braille birthday Jan4th Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
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hi a very good eve to all. friends i have go to interiew calls one is for ibps clerical and other for united india insureance for the post office assist. so pl help rigarding which has more scope? and which would give me a better pay. pls guide me thanks Celebrating Louis Braille birthday Jan4th Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] Centre no more blind to visually impaired, funds books in Braille
That would be a good initiative. -Original Message- From: sanjay [mailto:sanjaylpra...@yahoo.co.in] Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2015 5:58 PM To: vedprakash.sha...@gmail.com; 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.' Subject: RE: [AI] Centre no more blind to visually impaired, funds books in Braille I agree with both of you. Apart from Braile books, our government should encourage the development of affordable Braile displays which may encourage pupils to learn Braile. Here is a startling news for those who believe Braile is an outdated stuff. Forget Braile, typewriters which are outdated for all of us are reintroduced in Germany and some other countries' Government offices to write and preserve secret documents. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Vedprakash Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2015 5:15 PM To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.'; 'Shireen Irani' Subject: Re: [AI] Centre no more blind to visually impaired, funds books in Braille Braille is the essential tool for us. It is a substitute for writing with pen and pencil. As a sighted person cannot stop using basic writing tools like pen and pencil, in the same way, Braille is the basic reading and writing system for us. Braille cannot be compared to any of the present technologies. Yes, we have been bennefitted with these technologies. No doubt. But that does not mean that Braille has no relevance with regard to our education. Imagine if we try to impose computers and daisy tools to read books and for writing on to our primary level students, what is going to happen. These technologies are useful only after we have undergone a specific level of studies. There are many more relevant features of braille which need not being discussed here. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of avinash shahi Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2015 4:27 PM To: accessindia; Shireen Irani Subject: [AI] Centre no more blind to visually impaired, funds books in Braille I do not think Braille is outdated as Mr Abidi quoted claiming in the article Better, those who have never ever used the fully developed script, and lack will-power to learn; refrain from spreading rumour about Braille through media. This script is still relevant and needs to be preserved and promoted. Withstanding the tsunami in technological advancement worldover which serves few lucky ones, Braille is an equaliser for majority of blind people. As printed books are never gonna off the hands so the case with Braille books. http://www.dailypioneer.com/nation/centre-no-more-blind-to-visually-impaired -funds-books-in-braille.html -- Avinash Shahi Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU Celebrating Louis Braille birthday Jan4th Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessind ia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Celebrating Louis Braille birthday Jan4th Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessind ia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Celebrating Louis Braille birthday Jan4th Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a
Re: [AI] Centre no more blind to visually impaired, funds books in Braille
I agree with both of you. Apart from Braile books, our government should encourage the development of affordable Braile displays which may encourage pupils to learn Braile. Here is a startling news for those who believe Braile is an outdated stuff. Forget Braile, typewriters which are outdated for all of us are reintroduced in Germany and some other countries' Government offices to write and preserve secret documents. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Vedprakash Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2015 5:15 PM To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.'; 'Shireen Irani' Subject: Re: [AI] Centre no more blind to visually impaired, funds books in Braille Braille is the essential tool for us. It is a substitute for writing with pen and pencil. As a sighted person cannot stop using basic writing tools like pen and pencil, in the same way, Braille is the basic reading and writing system for us. Braille cannot be compared to any of the present technologies. Yes, we have been bennefitted with these technologies. No doubt. But that does not mean that Braille has no relevance with regard to our education. Imagine if we try to impose computers and daisy tools to read books and for writing on to our primary level students, what is going to happen. These technologies are useful only after we have undergone a specific level of studies. There are many more relevant features of braille which need not being discussed here. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of avinash shahi Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2015 4:27 PM To: accessindia; Shireen Irani Subject: [AI] Centre no more blind to visually impaired, funds books in Braille I do not think Braille is outdated as Mr Abidi quoted claiming in the article Better, those who have never ever used the fully developed script, and lack will-power to learn; refrain from spreading rumour about Braille through media. This script is still relevant and needs to be preserved and promoted. Withstanding the tsunami in technological advancement worldover which serves few lucky ones, Braille is an equaliser for majority of blind people. As printed books are never gonna off the hands so the case with Braille books. http://www.dailypioneer.com/nation/centre-no-more-blind-to-visually-impaired -funds-books-in-braille.html -- Avinash Shahi Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU Celebrating Louis Braille birthday Jan4th Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessind ia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Celebrating Louis Braille birthday Jan4th Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessind ia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Celebrating Louis Braille birthday Jan4th Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the pers
Re: [AI] Visually challenged parent - sighted child...How to bridge the gap?
Dear Payal May be my suggestion does not solve your problem totally, but still read on. At one of Voice Vision knowledge session, we had Mr. & Mrs. Rapose sharing their experience on blind parenting. They shared their experience in upbringing sighted kids. In which Mrs. Padma firmly shared that she always wanted her kids to have good handwriting and also writing skills. To achieve her wish she hired a learned/ professional tution teacher and regularly use to check with the teacher about their written assignments and progress. As I know you are late blind and you fairly know how to write. My suggestion, if you do so alongwith trying yourself to write in your best of handwriting. Where in the teacher can guide you too, that which of your alphabets are not in proper shape, you may be able to communicate in written with your son too. To avoid over writing on lines, you may use a tactile format of a ruled page. Hope this helps, wish to hear your feedback. Best Regards, Sushmeetha B. Bubna │ Founder Director Voice Vision 103, Synthofine Estate,' A'- Wing, Off Aarey Road, Goregaon (E), Mumbai - 400 063. Work Phone: +91 22 4040 │ Fax: +91 22 40400123 │ Hand Phone: +91 9820566010 Email: sushmee...@voicevision.in │ Web: www.voicevision.in Basudeo Bubna Memorial Trust │ Web: www.bubna.com Facebook www.facebook.com/voicevisionfans Current Events: Read blog on shopping experience with and without eyesight @ http://voicevision.in/content/shopping-experience-and-without-eyesight Splendid post! Yes there is a way forward in every situation. We just need to take time to figure it out. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of mukesh jain Sent: 17 January 2015 12:52 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Visually challenged parent - sighted child...How to bridge the gap? Ouch, what a great topic, The first piece of advice I can give to any blind person, whether they are a parent or not, is to teach yourself to read and write print or have someone help you learn. Sometimes there is no Braille and it is useful to know how to read raised or indented print, and this is especially an important skill for those who wish to become parents. It's also good to know how to write actual letters so your signature isn't just a scribble that's easier than most signatures to forge and so that it is at least somewhat legible. How do you learn print? Well, here are a few suggestions. The first thing you can do to learn print letters is to buy alphabet refrigerator magnets, both in upper and lower cases. For those who don't know about this item, I can tell you that these comes in ABC Magnets form and come in a set of 26 and are ideal for sprucing up your refrigerator, filing cabinet or any other metal surface! The strong magnetshold firmly and resist sliding or falling off, and the bright colors are fun and cheerful for your children to teach the alphabets! When you take them out of the package, they should in theory be in order, but if not, have someone who knows the letters order them for you on a refrigerator, dry erase board, or other magnetized surface, so that you can feel each letter and learn its shape. Practice feeling the letters often until you have them down, then have someone test you on them until you've mastered identifying them by touch. Make sure to do this with both cases as lower case print letters do not always look the same as upper case ones. There are only a few exceptions, such as S, X, and Z. Then you can move on to the next step. Now you are ready for letter and number stencils. These will teach you two things. First off they will teach you to read indented print, as the stencil will have holes in the shape of the letters. It shouldn't take too long to master the indented versions once you've gotten the raised magnets down. Now you can use them to write. Take a pen and paper and practice tracing the letters in the stencil until you have it down. The stencil will act as a guide so you should draw them correctly. Once you've mastered that, you can practice drawing the letters freehand and even working on your signature if necessary. Now you're ready to help a child learn to read and write. With these same materials, you can help a child learn to read and write print, whether they are sighted or blind, but for the purposes of this post we'll assume the child is sighted. When you have mastered the magnetic letters, put them on a surface for the child to practice. Make sure you know how to order them, as children will often want to take them down and handle them. Allow them to do so and tell them what the letters are. Then you can begin taking them down and quizzing them daily on what the letters are. Do not be discouraged if this takes a while. Just keep practicing with the child and they will eventually get it. When they do, and they can corre
Re: [AI] Centre no more blind to visually impaired, funds books in Braille
Braille is the essential tool for us. It is a substitute for writing with pen and pencil. As a sighted person cannot stop using basic writing tools like pen and pencil, in the same way, Braille is the basic reading and writing system for us. Braille cannot be compared to any of the present technologies. Yes, we have been bennefitted with these technologies. No doubt. But that does not mean that Braille has no relevance with regard to our education. Imagine if we try to impose computers and daisy tools to read books and for writing on to our primary level students, what is going to happen. These technologies are useful only after we have undergone a specific level of studies. There are many more relevant features of braille which need not being discussed here. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of avinash shahi Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2015 4:27 PM To: accessindia; Shireen Irani Subject: [AI] Centre no more blind to visually impaired, funds books in Braille I do not think Braille is outdated as Mr Abidi quoted claiming in the article Better, those who have never ever used the fully developed script, and lack will-power to learn; refrain from spreading rumour about Braille through media. This script is still relevant and needs to be preserved and promoted. Withstanding the tsunami in technological advancement worldover which serves few lucky ones, Braille is an equaliser for majority of blind people. As printed books are never gonna off the hands so the case with Braille books. http://www.dailypioneer.com/nation/centre-no-more-blind-to-visually-impaired -funds-books-in-braille.html -- Avinash Shahi Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU Celebrating Louis Braille birthday Jan4th Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessind ia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Celebrating Louis Braille birthday Jan4th Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] ANNOUNCEMENTS FORM NFB INDIA
Can Ph.D candidates participate? smiles? On 1/17/15, National Federation of the Blind India wrote: > Dear members > Greetings from NFB INDIA > This is to inform you all that the National Federation of the Blind is > organizing a National Level Competition for junior group as well as for the > senior group in the month of February and March 2015. The Federation has > announced to observe 16 March as Sankalp Divas from 2015 onward. So as to > remind you all this was the day on which thousand of visually impaired > people were brutally Lathi charged by the Delhi Police at Parliament Street > during mass mobilization. Although on 16th March 1980 many of our brothers > and sisters faced a lot of physical injuries, but on the contrary this was > the day which gave birth to a new era of social change in the interest of > all person with disabilities. On 16th March 1980 the parliament has for the > first time identified and gave recognition to the entire person with > disabilities society. > The National Federation of the Blind would like to observe this historical > day in the form of Sankalp Divas. The National Federation of the Blind is > organizing a competition for junior and senior groups separately as per the > schedule given below:- > Junior Group Competition:- > 8 February 2015- vocal music competition (light music), only one > participant from one special school can apply. > 9 February 2015:- Essay Writing and Debate competition. (note that > interested candidates will be given 2 hours to write essay in braille on > the day of event). > Topics for essay writing competition:- > Technology and Braille > Topic for debate competition:- > special schools are helpful in overall development of person with > disabilities. > Eligibility criteria > 1. Students of aged below 18 years, but should be a student of 9-12 class. > 2. Students of different special schools can apply for the competition. > How to apply > 1. The candidate who wish to apply for the competition (if residing in > Delhi), should apply through their respective special schools only and > through a proper channel. > 2. The students (residing outside Delhi), have to get themselves registered > at The National Federation of the Blind's branch office of that particular > state where they are residing. > 3. The participants are required to submit with their date of birth proof > to the concerned authorities of their special school for participating in > the competition. > Prizes for the winners > First prize: - Rs 15,000 > Second prize: - Rs 12,000 > Third prize:- Rs 10,000 > Last date to apply > 31 January 2015 > NOTE:- Students who are visually impaired but are not connected to any > special school can also participate in this competition but they have to > get their date of birth certificate duly signed by school principal and > submit it in NFB Delhi office (if residing in Delhi), and at our branch > office (if residing outside Delhi). > > Senior Group Competition:- > 14 March 2015:- Essay Writing and Debate Competition.(note that the > interested candidates will be given two hours time to write essay in > braille on the day of event). > 15 March 2015:- Classical Music Competition (only one participant from one > organization or college can apply). > Topic for debate > need of our is to dismantle old government institution in the name of good > governance. > Topic for essay > role of laws relating to person with disabilities in their overall > development. > Eligibility Criteria:- > 1. Interested candidates aged between 18-35 years can apply for competition > through a proper channel. > How to apply:- > Interested candidates are requested to get their date of birth proof > verified and signed by the Principal of their respective colleges and > submit their so verified date of birth proof at our head office (if > residing in New Delhi), or to our various branch offices (if residing > outside New Delhi). > Prizes for the winners:- > First Prize: - Rs 20,000 > Second Prize: - Rs 15,000 > Third Prize: - Rs 12,000 > Last date to apply:- > 28 February 2015 > > for further quarries please call us on our toll free number:- > 1800117911 > BEST WISHES > Celebrating Louis Braille birthday Jan4th > > > > Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of > mobile phones / Tabs on: > http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the > person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > 2. AI ca
[AI] ANNOUNCEMENTS FORM NFB INDIA
Dear members Greetings from NFB INDIA This is to inform you all that the National Federation of the Blind is organizing a National Level Competition for junior group as well as for the senior group in the month of February and March 2015. The Federation has announced to observe 16 March as Sankalp Divas from 2015 onward. So as to remind you all this was the day on which thousand of visually impaired people were brutally Lathi charged by the Delhi Police at Parliament Street during mass mobilization. Although on 16th March 1980 many of our brothers and sisters faced a lot of physical injuries, but on the contrary this was the day which gave birth to a new era of social change in the interest of all person with disabilities. On 16th March 1980 the parliament has for the first time identified and gave recognition to the entire person with disabilities society. The National Federation of the Blind would like to observe this historical day in the form of Sankalp Divas. The National Federation of the Blind is organizing a competition for junior and senior groups separately as per the schedule given below:- Junior Group Competition:- 8 February 2015- vocal music competition (light music), only one participant from one special school can apply. 9 February 2015:- Essay Writing and Debate competition. (note that interested candidates will be given 2 hours to write essay in braille on the day of event). Topics for essay writing competition:- Technology and Braille Topic for debate competition:- special schools are helpful in overall development of person with disabilities. Eligibility criteria 1. Students of aged below 18 years, but should be a student of 9-12 class. 2. Students of different special schools can apply for the competition. How to apply 1. The candidate who wish to apply for the competition (if residing in Delhi), should apply through their respective special schools only and through a proper channel. 2. The students (residing outside Delhi), have to get themselves registered at The National Federation of the Blind’s branch office of that particular state where they are residing. 3. The participants are required to submit with their date of birth proof to the concerned authorities of their special school for participating in the competition. Prizes for the winners First prize: - Rs 15,000 Second prize: - Rs 12,000 Third prize:- Rs 10,000 Last date to apply 31 January 2015 NOTE:- Students who are visually impaired but are not connected to any special school can also participate in this competition but they have to get their date of birth certificate duly signed by school principal and submit it in NFB Delhi office (if residing in Delhi), and at our branch office (if residing outside Delhi). Senior Group Competition:- 14 March 2015:- Essay Writing and Debate Competition.(note that the interested candidates will be given two hours time to write essay in braille on the day of event). 15 March 2015:- Classical Music Competition (only one participant from one organization or college can apply). Topic for debate need of our is to dismantle old government institution in the name of good governance. Topic for essay role of laws relating to person with disabilities in their overall development. Eligibility Criteria:- 1. Interested candidates aged between 18-35 years can apply for competition through a proper channel. How to apply:- Interested candidates are requested to get their date of birth proof verified and signed by the Principal of their respective colleges and submit their so verified date of birth proof at our head office (if residing in New Delhi), or to our various branch offices (if residing outside New Delhi). Prizes for the winners:- First Prize: - Rs 20,000 Second Prize: - Rs 15,000 Third Prize: - Rs 12,000 Last date to apply:- 28 February 2015 for further quarries please call us on our toll free number:- 1800117911 BEST WISHES Celebrating Louis Braille birthday Jan4th Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
[AI] Centre no more blind to visually impaired, funds books in Braille
I do not think Braille is outdated as Mr Abidi quoted claiming in the article Better, those who have never ever used the fully developed script, and lack will-power to learn; refrain from spreading rumour about Braille through media. This script is still relevant and needs to be preserved and promoted. Withstanding the tsunami in technological advancement worldover which serves few lucky ones, Braille is an equaliser for majority of blind people. As printed books are never gonna off the hands so the case with Braille books. http://www.dailypioneer.com/nation/centre-no-more-blind-to-visually-impaired-funds-books-in-braille.html -- Avinash Shahi Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU Celebrating Louis Braille birthday Jan4th Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] Adventurous people: experience with fox flying, flight simulating, etc?
Hey Amar, I am gonna be there and i hope you will try these things this time. I have tried following: Rock climing - I did this at Kolad. And i was amongst few of our company employees to reach the summet. It’s lot of fun ad strength and technique. Will tell you tomorrow. A sighted oral guidance is needed from the ground, like to your left, up, down etc. for finding fissures and projections to hold ourselves. This is a slippery business and you will have to trust the rope holding you )). But i don’t know what is rock climbing (through zorbing), fox flying: Hey, it is really not flying. You just walk on the rope frame, surrounded by well covered ropes, Biking: Not sure if it is like a biking done in malls. Then i wonder if a VI can enjoy at all. horse riding: Most fulfilling for me. Because i love animals and you don’t feel dependant much if horse knows it’s charted way to trot or run. No risk of banging in to anything as horse can see You’ve got to have a good padding under your seat ))) Only caution is horse should be a obedient one and you shall know how to rein it in. No idea about flight simulators but most simulators VI may not enjoy as he will only feel the vibration and jerks and it’s not much fun for the VI like in 4d movies. Hey but there are more exciting stuff at Imagica. M waiting for the rides such as Nitro, screamer, D2, Space 360-free fall and I for India. I am going to request Payal to insist everyone to be on time so we don’t waste a precious time and please bring your swimming clothes so we are not shy of trying water cannon rides. ~cheers On 1/17/15, Bhavya shah wrote: > I've done trekking some months ago in Karnala, trekked uphill with > friends, but felt downhill was a bit riskier, so partially came down > with friends, and partially with our trekking instructor. It was a > good experience, totally doable. > I had done horse riding some years ago, when I was fairly sighted, I > can't remember any part where you'd need sight. I simply had to hold > onto the horse, and the rest would be done by it and its trainer. > Totally doable again. > Quite some time ago, someone shared an news article, where a couple of > visually impaired people (a few of them are on this list) had done > some serious trekking/climbing, hope one of them shares their > experience here. > By the way, a question from me, I had heard, I may be totally mistaken > because I'm absolutely unsure, but had heard that there was a blind > person who had climbed the 17 highest peaks in the world? Is something > like this actually true, if so, could you share that mountaineer's > name, and any related information, would be interesting. > > On 1/16/15, Mohammed Asif iqbal wrote: >> I did rock climbing , rappling several years ago. I would love to have an >> opportunity to do so again. >> Smile. >> Asif >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On >> Behalf >> Of Kiran Kaja >> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 12:58 PM >> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues >> concerning >> the disabled.' >> Subject: Re: [AI] Adventurous people: experience with fox flying, flight >> simulating, etc? >> >> I did skydiving last March. It was a lot of fun. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On >> Behalf >> Of Amar Jain >> Sent: 16 January 2015 06:17 >> To: accessindia >> Subject: [AI] Adventurous people: experience with fox flying, flight >> simulating, etc? >> >> Guys, has anyone on the list tried things like flight simulators, rock >> climing (through zorbing), fox flying, biking, horse riding, if so, can >> you >> please share your experiences and any tips whatsoever? >> >> I want to know in and out of it, so that I can convince the professionals >> in >> an adventurous park. >> >> Regards, >> -- >> Amar Jain. >> Website: www.amarjain.com >> >> Celebrating Louis Braille birthday Jan4th >> >> >> >> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility >> of >> mobile phones / Tabs on: >> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessind >> ia.org.in >> >> >> Search for old postings at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >> >> To unsubscribe send a message to >> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >> with the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> please >> visit the list home page at >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> >> >> Disclaimer: >> 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of >> the >> person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; >> >> 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the >> mails >> sent through this mailing list.. >> >> >> Celebrating Louis Braille birthday Jan4th >> >> >> >> Register at the dedicate
Re: [AI] Adventurous people: experience with fox flying, flight simulating, etc?
I've done trekking some months ago in Karnala, trekked uphill with friends, but felt downhill was a bit riskier, so partially came down with friends, and partially with our trekking instructor. It was a good experience, totally doable. I had done horse riding some years ago, when I was fairly sighted, I can't remember any part where you'd need sight. I simply had to hold onto the horse, and the rest would be done by it and its trainer. Totally doable again. Quite some time ago, someone shared an news article, where a couple of visually impaired people (a few of them are on this list) had done some serious trekking/climbing, hope one of them shares their experience here. By the way, a question from me, I had heard, I may be totally mistaken because I'm absolutely unsure, but had heard that there was a blind person who had climbed the 17 highest peaks in the world? Is something like this actually true, if so, could you share that mountaineer's name, and any related information, would be interesting. On 1/16/15, Mohammed Asif iqbal wrote: > I did rock climbing , rappling several years ago. I would love to have an > opportunity to do so again. > Smile. > Asif > > > -Original Message- > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf > Of Kiran Kaja > Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 12:58 PM > To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning > the disabled.' > Subject: Re: [AI] Adventurous people: experience with fox flying, flight > simulating, etc? > > I did skydiving last March. It was a lot of fun. > > -Original Message- > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf > Of Amar Jain > Sent: 16 January 2015 06:17 > To: accessindia > Subject: [AI] Adventurous people: experience with fox flying, flight > simulating, etc? > > Guys, has anyone on the list tried things like flight simulators, rock > climing (through zorbing), fox flying, biking, horse riding, if so, can you > please share your experiences and any tips whatsoever? > > I want to know in and out of it, so that I can convince the professionals > in > an adventurous park. > > Regards, > -- > Amar Jain. > Website: www.amarjain.com > > Celebrating Louis Braille birthday Jan4th > > > > Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of > mobile phones / Tabs on: > http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessind > ia.org.in > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of > the > person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails > sent through this mailing list.. > > > Celebrating Louis Braille birthday Jan4th > > > > Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of > mobile phones / Tabs on: > http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessind > ia.org.in > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of > the > person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails > sent through this mailing list.. > > > Celebrating Louis Braille birthday Jan4th > > > > Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of > mobile phones / Tabs on: > http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the > person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails > sent through this mai
Re: [AI] Jaws turns 20! Shoot your video, and get one SMA free!
Hi, Harish Sir, This information should be correct, since: * Freedom Scientific has made this official announcement. * you may have been using JAWS for DOS, while JAWS for Windows has turned twenty On 1/16/15, Kotian, H P wrote: > Hi > I don't think this information is correct. I used Jaws much earlier even > during the DOS days. > > Harish Kotian > > -Original Message- > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf > Of Amar Jain > Sent: 16 January 2015 16:39 > To: accessindia > Subject: [AI] Jaws turns 20! Shoot your video, and get one SMA free! > > Hi All, > > Let us join wishing Jaws its 20th anniversary! Jaws was a result of a man > who was a motor cyclist, who met with an accident and became blind. Later, > Freedomscientific managed its development and marketing. > > It was introduced in India by Karishma Enterprises in the year 1996, and > today they are the sole distributor for Asia. > > Despite facing resistance from people, NGOs, and others about its > affordability, and many such factors, Jaws has been able to create a good > share in the user market, and it continues to do so. > > Let us not forget the fact that today technologies are much more developed > than what it was when Jaws came in the market. And if the computer literacy > has increased, then it is due to the efforts of Freedomscientific and > Karishma Enterprises which has enabled us to get trained on Jaws and become > tech savvy. > > With a huge thanks to Freedomscientific and Karishma Enterprises, wishing > Jaws the best of the future! > > Do join-in Freedomscientific in their celebration. To learn how, please > click: http://www.freedomscientific.com/about/Events/JAWS_20th_Anniversary > > Please note: these are my personal views and are not endorsed by anyone. > > Regards, > -- > Amar Jain. > Website: www.amarjain.com > > Celebrating Louis Braille birthday Jan4th > > > > Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of > mobile phones / Tabs on: > http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the > person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails > sent through this mailing list.. > > Caution: The Reserve Bank of India never sends mails, smses or makes calls > asking for personal information such as your bank account details, > passwords, etc. It never keeps or offers funds to anyone. Please do not > respond in any manner to such offers, however official or attractive they > may look. > > Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and > intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are > addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use, > review, distribution, printing or copying of the information contained in > this e-mail message and/or attachments to it are strictly prohibited. If you > have received this email by error, please notify us by return e-mail or > telephone and immediately and permanently delete the message and any > attachments. The recipient should check this email and any attachments for > the presence of viruses. The Reserve Bank of India accepts no liability for > any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. > > Celebrating Louis Braille birthday Jan4th > > > > Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of > mobile phones / Tabs on: > http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the > person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails > sent through this mailing list.. > -- Warm Regards Bhavya Let me wish you a very Happy New Year before the phone lines get jammed and internet hanged. Happy New Year 2015 ! Reach me through the following means: Mobile: +91 7506221750 Telephone: +022 23076950 E
Re: [AI] two websites not working
No sound for the 4 days - Original Message - From: "mahendra" To: Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2015 12:10 PM Subject: [AI] two websites not working Dear Friends Adina and i enjoying listening to music from this two websites, however since few days, we are not able to listen any more as brodcast has stopd. any one knows any problem? wet sites are http://allindiaradio.gov.in/vividh.htm http://allindiaradio.gov.in/Gold.htm waiting to hear your expirianses. with warm regards Mahendra Galani skype chintu3886 Mobile+whats app+ Viber + Fasetime +4369917455595 Landline +4314943149 Addresse Herbst strasse 101/16/1 1160 Vienna Austria Europe Celebrating Louis Braille birthday Jan4th Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Celebrating Louis Braille birthday Jan4th Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] Visually challenged parent - sighted child...How to bridge the gap?
i am a father of 2 children, and my wife is not educated inough. some how i could manage to learn her aboth hindi and english alphabets, but still long way to go. now she is able to read alphabets and i have to manage in understanding the words. but i think that is not good for my cheldren. some how i have to keep tuter for them being a learned person, i have to look for some one to see their school diaries. now the technology is quite advanced. now we can get what ever we want to our doorstep with the help of a computer and thansk thanks to various e-commers players. but the schools are still stick to the treditional ways. and t he scholls which are using the smart technologies, they are out of the budget. On 1/17/15, George Abraham wrote: > Splendid post! Yes there is a way forward in every situation. We just need > to take time to figure it out. > > -Original Message- > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf > Of mukesh jain > Sent: 17 January 2015 12:52 > To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning > the disabled. > Subject: Re: [AI] Visually challenged parent - sighted child...How to > bridge the gap? > > Ouch, what a great topic, > The first piece of advice I can give to any blind person, whether they > are a parent or not, is to teach yourself to read and write print or > have someone > help you learn. Sometimes there is no Braille and it is useful to know > how to read raised or indented print, and this is especially an > important skill > for those who wish to become parents. It's also good to know how to > write actual letters so your signature isn't just a scribble that's > easier than most > signatures to forge and so that it is at least somewhat legible. How > do you learn print? Well, here are a few suggestions. > > The first thing you can do to learn print letters is to buy alphabet > refrigerator magnets, both in upper and lower cases. For those who > don't know about this item, I can tell you that these comes in ABC > Magnets form and come in a set of 26 and are ideal for sprucing up > your refrigerator, filing cabinet or any other metal surface! The > strong magnetshold firmly and resist sliding or falling off, and the > bright colors are fun and cheerful for your children to teach the > alphabets! > > When you take them out of the package, they should in theory be in > order, but if not, have someone who knows the letters order them for > you on a refrigerator, dry erase board, or other magnetized surface, > so that you can feel each letter and learn its shape. Practice feeling > the letters often until you have them down, then have someone test you > on them until you've mastered identifying them by touch. Make sure to > do this with both cases as lower case print letters do not always look > the > same as upper case ones. There are only a few exceptions, such as S, > X, and Z. Then you can move on to the next step. > > Now you are ready for letter and number stencils. These will teach you > two things. First off they will teach you to read indented print, as > the stencil > will have holes in the shape of the letters. It shouldn't take too > long to master the indented versions once you've gotten the raised > magnets down. Now > you can use them to write. Take a pen and paper and practice tracing > the letters in the stencil until you have it down. The stencil will > act as a guide > so you should draw them correctly. Once you've mastered that, you can > practice drawing the letters freehand and even working on your > signature if necessary. > Now you're ready to help a child learn to read and write. > > With these same materials, you can help a child learn to read and > write print, whether they are sighted or blind, but for the purposes > of this post we'll > assume the child is sighted. When you have mastered the magnetic > letters, put them on a surface for the child to practice. Make sure > you know how to order > them, as children will often want to take them down and handle them. > Allow them to do so and tell them what the letters are. Then you can > begin taking > them down and quizzing them daily on what the letters are. Do not be > discouraged if this takes a while. Just keep practicing with the child > and they will > eventually get it. When they do, and they can correctly identify all > or most of the letters even if randomly selected, move on to the > stencil, but remember > to continue practicing the magnetic letters every day. > > With the stencil, you should use one more item to make your efforts > more fruitful. However, before you get there, give your child the > stencil and let them > practice drawing the letters with a standard pen or pencil. Let them > do this repeatedly so that they can master using the stencil. Then, > you'll want to > get a trusty glitter pen. This can be used to allow your child to draw > letters, whether by stencil or free hand, in a way that what they have >
Re: [AI] Visually challenged parent - sighted child...How to bridge the gap?
Splendid post! Yes there is a way forward in every situation. We just need to take time to figure it out. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of mukesh jain Sent: 17 January 2015 12:52 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Visually challenged parent - sighted child...How to bridge the gap? Ouch, what a great topic, The first piece of advice I can give to any blind person, whether they are a parent or not, is to teach yourself to read and write print or have someone help you learn. Sometimes there is no Braille and it is useful to know how to read raised or indented print, and this is especially an important skill for those who wish to become parents. It's also good to know how to write actual letters so your signature isn't just a scribble that's easier than most signatures to forge and so that it is at least somewhat legible. How do you learn print? Well, here are a few suggestions. The first thing you can do to learn print letters is to buy alphabet refrigerator magnets, both in upper and lower cases. For those who don't know about this item, I can tell you that these comes in ABC Magnets form and come in a set of 26 and are ideal for sprucing up your refrigerator, filing cabinet or any other metal surface! The strong magnetshold firmly and resist sliding or falling off, and the bright colors are fun and cheerful for your children to teach the alphabets! When you take them out of the package, they should in theory be in order, but if not, have someone who knows the letters order them for you on a refrigerator, dry erase board, or other magnetized surface, so that you can feel each letter and learn its shape. Practice feeling the letters often until you have them down, then have someone test you on them until you've mastered identifying them by touch. Make sure to do this with both cases as lower case print letters do not always look the same as upper case ones. There are only a few exceptions, such as S, X, and Z. Then you can move on to the next step. Now you are ready for letter and number stencils. These will teach you two things. First off they will teach you to read indented print, as the stencil will have holes in the shape of the letters. It shouldn't take too long to master the indented versions once you've gotten the raised magnets down. Now you can use them to write. Take a pen and paper and practice tracing the letters in the stencil until you have it down. The stencil will act as a guide so you should draw them correctly. Once you've mastered that, you can practice drawing the letters freehand and even working on your signature if necessary. Now you're ready to help a child learn to read and write. With these same materials, you can help a child learn to read and write print, whether they are sighted or blind, but for the purposes of this post we'll assume the child is sighted. When you have mastered the magnetic letters, put them on a surface for the child to practice. Make sure you know how to order them, as children will often want to take them down and handle them. Allow them to do so and tell them what the letters are. Then you can begin taking them down and quizzing them daily on what the letters are. Do not be discouraged if this takes a while. Just keep practicing with the child and they will eventually get it. When they do, and they can correctly identify all or most of the letters even if randomly selected, move on to the stencil, but remember to continue practicing the magnetic letters every day. With the stencil, you should use one more item to make your efforts more fruitful. However, before you get there, give your child the stencil and let them practice drawing the letters with a standard pen or pencil. Let them do this repeatedly so that they can master using the stencil. Then, you'll want to get a trusty glitter pen. This can be used to allow your child to draw letters, whether by stencil or free hand, in a way that what they have drawn will be raised and tactile. This way, a blind parent can feel the letters to see if they conform to what they are supposed to be, and if not help correct the child. This is a great way for parent and child to learn, and kids will love the glitter pen anyway. You can also use these for craft projects, but they're a great tool for blind parents teaching writing to their kids. Like most things, there is a way for blind people to overcome almost any obstacle, and reading and writing print, whether for themselves or their children is no exception. You can find most of these products in almost any store. On 1/17/15, Uma phago wrote: > Amazing! This is a lesson for me too. > > On 1/17/15, payal jethra wrote: >> "I want you to read what I have written. I want you to see" is what my >> seven year old son insisted as I sat him on my lap completing his >> Hindi assignment. >> >> >> As a visually challe
