[AI] Learning maths and econometrics on the lap top

[Ekinath Khedekar]

Hi Guys,

How do I read maths using word or something as easy as that?

Is it possible to hear equations produced in Microsoft word or
powerpoint with the Microsoft equation editor?

Someone suggested me Nemeth Braille but I hve no idea about it and
don’t want to get into it as it will make things laborious even though
I am good at Braille.

I seek some solution which will make my learning in econometrics
easier on the lap top itself.

Do please let know step by step as I am doing it for the first time.

Thanks a ton

Ekinath






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Re: [AI] Learning maths and econometrics on the lap top

[Pranav Lal]

Hi Ekinath,

Look at MathML and NVDA's math add-on. The last I heard, equations produced by 
the equation editor were inaccessible but equations produced with MathType are 
accessible.

Pranav

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Ekinath Khedekar
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 3:26 AM
To: accessindia 
Subject: [AI] Learning maths and econometrics on the lap top

Hi Guys,

How do I read maths using word or something as easy as that?

Is it possible to hear equations produced in Microsoft word or powerpoint with 
the Microsoft equation editor?

Someone suggested me Nemeth Braille but I hve no idea about it and don’t want 
to get into it as it will make things laborious even though I am good at 
Braille.

I seek some solution which will make my learning in econometrics easier on the 
lap top itself.

Do please let know step by step as I am doing it for the first time.

Thanks a ton

Ekinath






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And because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do the something I can 
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will do."
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[AI] Best alternative to capcha

[Vamshi. G]

Dear friends,

Can someone suggest the best alternative to a capcha on a web site?
If a weffb site needs to have capcha, what can be done to make an
accessible arrangement for visually impaired.  Recently I visited the
income tax site where the audio is very clear to understand.  OTP is
another option.  I need other  alternatives along with examples where
reputed web sites are following it.



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[AI] With disability bill stuck in PMO, hope fades for its passage in House

[avinash shahi]

This TOI news published today informing us that MSJE sent the Bill to
the cabinet on 26 November However Economic Times news appeared late
in the first week of December reported it is yet to be submitted to
the cabinet for approval. Why this contradiction? what's going on
there?
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/With-disability-bill-stuck-in-PMO-hope-fades-for-its-passage-in-House/articleshow/50212170.cms

It is one bill on which an all-party consensus would be available. It
pertains to the rights of millions of disabled, the Rights of Persons
with Disabilities (RPwD) Bill. Yet, at a time when it is struggling to
get a consensus on several bills, the government failed to get this
one to the Rajya Sabha in time for it to be considered in the winter
session.
.

.
 Much to the disappointment of the disability sector, the bill is
currently stuck in the prime minister's office (PMO) where it was sent
after the ministry of social justice and empowerment sent it to the
cabinet secretariat on November 26.
.

.
 The cabinet meets every week, so two meetings have gone by without
the Bill being put up for clearance. With the Bill stuck in the PMO,
ministry officials and the disability sector have lost all hope of it
making it to this session.
.

.
 "If the ministry sent the cabinet note on November 26, why has it
taken so long? Now, it has been 20 days. It was naturally our
expectation that the government would take up the new Disabilities
Bill as a very high priority and fast track it, especially considering
the fact that this month we celebrated the World Disability Day and
the 20th Anniversary of the vastly outdated Disability Act 1995," said
Javed Abidi of the National Centre for Promotion of Employment for
Disabled People (NCPEDP).
.

-- 
Avinash Shahi
Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU



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[AI] state bank internet banking comes up with captcha

[Amit Pahuja]

hey folks, with at most  disapointment  i'd like to share instead of things
making more accessible for visually impaired, banks are making even more
difficult for us. from today, state bank of india and all of its associates
internet banking portal requireds a captcha to be entered while login. to
my surprise, even jaws OCR is not able to recognize the captcha.

at the same time,  i do consider the fact its been done to get more
security for the customers and to get rid of fraudsters. however, no
provisions have been made for visually impaireds. no audio captcha is
there, no login OTP is there the way IRCTC has implimented.

so what should be done to  make it accessible for us

Amit Pahuja
9650519193
State Bank of Travancore


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Re: [AI] Paytm

[Ajay Minocha]

Shekh sir,

Please share with the list for our benefit.

Thanks,
Ajay

On 12/16/15, mukesh jain  wrote:
> hello sheikh sir,
> yes, just now even i have checked and its working fine. i have cross
> checked my add-ons in firefox under tools\add ons and nothing seems to
> have been installed starting with  user as sometimes addons gets
> installed with bit mistake by clicking accidentally (witch happens
> sometimes with me)  i have other addons like adobe, video download
> helper webvisum etc. i am running latest firefox 42.00
> thanks,
>
>
> On 12/16/15, Sheik Mohammedali  wrote:
>> Mukeshji,
>> Is it still working for you under firefox latest? it does not seem to be
>> worked.  yes sure please download the add-on and there is an xml file
>> which
>>
>> adds list of mobile handsets interface that I can provide you.
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "mukesh jain" 
>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerningthe disabled." 
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 2:56 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Paytm
>>
>>
>>> hello sheik sir,
>>> indeed, very good information. actually, nowadays, there are lots of
>>> addons available for browser which makes the criteria such as,
>>> accessibility, navigation, search etc makes more easier within the
>>> browser adding more support capabilities. so more and more information
>>> on addons is certainly a good option.
>>>
>>> i have been so far using
>>> m.paytm.com
>>>
>>> on firefox latest 42.00 and didn't faced any difficulties hence,
>>> thought to suggest this way.
>>>
>>> so surely look for this addon and install.
>>> thanks,
>>>
>>> On 12/16/15, Sheik Mohammedali  wrote:
 Hi Mukesh!
 indeed you are right but that m.paytm.com does not work at least in
 latest
 browsers such as firefox and internet explorer.  well, coming to make
 it
 accessible there is an add-on for mozilla firefox "user agent" which
 can
 turn your browser in to mobile browser where you can open all sites in
 a
 mobile friendly environment.  in the earlier days in fact, youtube and
 and
 paytm were opening by default when we input m.site.com but now apart
 from
 facebook no site will be opened in the mobile environment.
 apart from this paytm you can get benefited from the youtube if you
 install

 real player which streams video in the mobile quality.  Raju I will
 reach
 you offline mate.


 - Original Message -
 From: "mukesh jain" 
 To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerningthe disabled." 
 Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 1:05 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Paytm


> hello,
> step by step
> paytm is fully accessible from the pc and mobile. if you face the
> difficulties in using paytm from pc then simply point your browser to:
> m.paytm.com
>
> login with your details and you are ready to go with your favorite
> shopping.
>
>
>
> On 12/16/15, raaju  wrote:
>> Hello shiek sir, please tell me step by step how one can make paytm
>> completely accessible on pc? My id is bidh...@gmail.com or you simply
>> can
>> whatsapp me, its 09733236784 (airtel) waiting your answer
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>> Behalf
>> Of sheik mohammedali
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 10:17 AM
>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning
>> the disabled.
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Paytm
>>
>> those who wish to make it accessible on PC let me know there is a way
>> to
>> make it completely accessible.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On 15-Dec-2015, at 9:15 PM, akshun mahajan
>>> 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> sir it is not but it is accessible on phone and with app.
>>>
 On 12/15/15, George Abraham  wrote:
 Friends,



 Just want to know if PayTM is accessible?



 Regards,



 George

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Re: [AI] state bank internet banking comes up with captcha

[Ramdas Shivhare]

On 12/16/15, Amit Pahuja  wrote:
> hey folks, with at most  disapointment  i'd like to share instead of things
> making more accessible for visually impaired, banks are making even more
> difficult for us. from today, state bank of india and all of its associates
> internet banking portal requireds a captcha to be entered while login. to
> my surprise, even jaws OCR is not able to recognize the captcha.
>
> at the same time,  i do consider the fact its been done to get more
> security for the customers and to get rid of fraudsters. however, no
> provisions have been made for visually impaireds. no audio captcha is
> there, no login OTP is there the way IRCTC has implimented.
>
> so what should be done to  make it accessible for us
>
> Amit Pahuja
> 9650519193
> State Bank of Travancore
>
>
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Re: [AI] Best alternative to capcha

[Jyoti]

Hi,
Maths question can also be used in place of capcha. As we are using on radio 
udaan's website.




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Subject: Re: [AI] Best alternative to capcha

OTP perhaps is the best alternative, me thinks.


सादर / With thanks & Regards
राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani
सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM
बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU
भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India
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Of Vamshi. G

Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 8:09 AM
To: accessindia
Subject: [AI] Best alternative to capcha

Dear friends,

Can someone suggest the best alternative to a capcha on a web site?
If a weffb site needs to have capcha, what can be done to make an
accessible arrangement for visually impaired.  Recently I visited the
income tax site where the audio is very clear to understand.  OTP is
another option.  I need other  alternatives along with examples where
reputed web sites are following it.



--
G. Vamshi
Mobile: +91 9949349497
Skype: gvamshi81

WWW.VIBEWA.ORG
EQUALITY AND DIGNITY



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[AI] Important: Revision of building code for the disabled to focus on accessibility

[avinash shahi]

Any blind accessibility expert will join Mr Abidi and Mrs Agarwal in
the proposed meeting scheduled on 18 December?
If not, sector needs to think...
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Revision-of-building-code-for-the-disabled-to-focus-on-accessibility/articleshow/50212184.cms
The disability affairs department has swung into action to help ensure
that the National Building Code (NBC), which is being revised, will
ensure accessibility for the disabled across all public spaces. A
meeting of all stakeholders including the director general of the
Bureau of Indian Standards, in charge of the code revision, and
accessibility experts from the disability sector has been called on
December 18.
 "To ensure that all accessibility related standards are incorporated
in the National Building Code (NBC), the secretary, the department of
empowerment of persons with disabilities would like to have a detailed
discussion with the director general of Bureau of Indian Standards
(BIS) and senior officials of the ministry of consumer affairs,"
stated the letter issued by joint secretary of the department, Mukesh
Jain. It is expected that the meeting will be attended by a joint
secretary from the urban development ministry as well as Javed Abidi
of the National Centre for Promotion of Employment for Disabled People
(NCPEDP), Anjlee Agarwal of Samarthyam, an organisation working to
ensure accessible environments, and other accessibility experts.

.


.
 The Times of India had reported last week how several parts of the
draft of the revised NBC did not include accessibility features. The
disability sector has been demanding that every part of the code ought
to be reviewed keeping accessibility in mind, and not just the part
containing provisions relating to a barrier-free environment. However,
BIS officials in charge of the revision have been saying that it had
to be completed in a time-bound manner and that the revised code "is
to be published urgently as per the mandate of Government of India".
They said that any comments on the draft had to reach them before
December 24.
 The department's letter referred to the prime minister's speech read
out at the launch of the Accessible India Campaign which said that it
was a "mission to change the physical and virtual infrastructure of
the country so as to make it more accessible and inclusive for PwDs."
He added that the campaign would pave the way for equal rights and
participation of the disabled in all community activities.

.


.
 "The revision is happening after 10 years. We cannot let go of this
opportunity to do a comprehensive review and catch up with lost time.
Why can't they delay it by a few more months? Is the deadline more
important than ensuring that everything built in this country will be
accessible from now on?" asked Abidi.

.

.

-- 
Avinash Shahi
Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU



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Re: [AI] Best alternative to capcha

[Asudani, Rajesh]

earlier, www.indianrail.gov.in

was using it for PNR checking.
Of late, they too have shifted to regular captchha.

Perhaps such simple questions can now be read and solved by machines.


सादर / With thanks & Regards
राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani
सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM
बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU
भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India
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-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Jyoti
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 12:21 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Best alternative to capcha

Hi,
Maths question can also be used in place of capcha. As we are using on radio
udaan's website.



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-Original Message-
From: Asudani, Rajesh
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 10:58 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Best alternative to capcha

OTP perhaps is the best alternative, me thinks.


सादर / With thanks & Regards
राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani
सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM
बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU
भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India
नागपुर Nagpur

0712 2806846

President
VIBEWA
Co-Moderator
VIB-India

A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and
laughter.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Vamshi. G
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 8:09 AM
To: accessindia
Subject: [AI] Best alternative to capcha

Dear friends,

Can someone suggest the best alternative to a capcha on a web site?
If a weffb site needs to have capcha, what can be done to make an
accessible arrangement for visually impaired.  Recently I visited the
income tax site where the audio is very clear to understand.  OTP is
another option.  I need other  alternatives along with examples where
reputed web sites are following it.



--
G. Vamshi
Mobile: +91 9949349497
Skype: gvamshi81

WWW.VIBEWA.ORG
EQUALITY AND DIGNITY



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Re: [AI] Making Partition on Windows Laptop

[shankar shan]

hi
plz check this

Windows 7, Windows 8, 8.1, 10, and Vista include a built-in
functionality in Disk Management to shrink and expand partitions. No
more 3rd party utilities
needed! It’s worth noting that many third-party utilities will be more
feature-rich, but you can do the very basic stuff in Windows without
adding anything
new.

To get to this utility, open up Control Panel, and type in partition
into the search box.. you’ll immediately see the link show up:

If you are in Windows 8 or 8.1 you’ll need to use the Start Screen
search. If you are in Windows 10, just use the Start Menu or the
Control Panel search.
Either way, the same thing will come up.
list end

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How to Shrink a Partition

In the Disk Management screen, just right-click on the partition that
you want to shrink, and select “Shrink Volume” from the menu.

In the Shrink dialog, you will want to enter the amount you want to
shrink by, not the new size. For example, if you want to shrink your
50gb partition
by roughly 10gb so that it will now be roughly 40gb, enter 1 into the box:

How to Extend a Partition

In the Disk Management screen, just right-click on the partition that
you want to shrink, and select “Extend Volume” from the menu.

On this screen, you can specify the amount that you want to increase
the partition by. In this case, I’m going to extend it back to the
roughly 50GB size
that it was before.

Note that the extend partition feature only works with contiguous space.



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Re: [AI] Best alternative to capcha

[Asudani, Rajesh]

OTP perhaps is the best alternative, me thinks.


सादर / With thanks & Regards
राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani
सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM
बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU
भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India
नागपुर Nagpur

0712 2806846

President
VIBEWA
Co-Moderator
VIB-India

A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and laughter.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Vamshi. G
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 8:09 AM
To: accessindia
Subject: [AI] Best alternative to capcha

Dear friends,

Can someone suggest the best alternative to a capcha on a web site?
If a weffb site needs to have capcha, what can be done to make an
accessible arrangement for visually impaired.  Recently I visited the
income tax site where the audio is very clear to understand.  OTP is
another option.  I need other  alternatives along with examples where
reputed web sites are following it.



--
G. Vamshi
Mobile: +91 9949349497
Skype: gvamshi81

WWW.VIBEWA.ORG
EQUALITY AND DIGNITY



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Re: [AI] Girls and Women with Disabilities: share your ways of grooming and tasks like make-up

[Asudani, Rajesh]

Now that's overreaching oneself, as a group, me thinks.

Beauty, is visual beauty as it is understood generally.

So, running beauty parlors by blind is like saying,  as NAB did on its 
homepage: "You know blind can drive!!""


Let us not pretend,  and accept that we cannot see.


I would surely like to coin new terms for auditory, tactual, olfactory and 
beauty of other senses, though.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
avinash shahi
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 3:49 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Girls and Women with Disabilities: share your ways of 
grooming and tasks like make-up

Your mail generated an interest in me to look for beauty-parlour
runned by blind women in the country or in abroad.  However I found no
such centres in India. By the way Centre for Blind women in Hauz Khas
Delhi once conducted a workshop along with famous beauty magnet
Shahnas Hussain. You can take more details from Shalini Khanna. If
blind people can own a restaurant in Kathmandu and fully runn with all
blind waitors and chef, time is not far we will have
beauty-saloons/parlours owned and runned by blind girls and boys. And
what I found more interesting out of your query is that a legal firm
is keen to explore ways to groom one's body personality. I further
wonder why you have excluded the blind men from the survey? Aren't
they so obsessed about how they look and apply themselves in the
public?





On 12/14/15, Amar Jain  wrote:
> Dear Female members of the list (could potentially involve married
> male partners too if they have cared to be aware),
>
> I am working on something for my legal sector specifically, which
> involves training people with visual impairment or total blindness on
> personality, grooming, both professionally and for situations like
> party etc. Although a healthy discussion on this topic can help many
> people who are new too this field or who have not openly sought
> solution for something of this kind, which is a part of any occasion
> in any female's life, but if someone is not open to share the thoughts
> on this threat, then an e-mail or a phone call (if you know me and are
> comfortable to discuss), will be greatly appreciated.
>
> Before I put forward my questions, let me also tell you that I just
> have general awareness of these aspects which relates to a female's
> grooming, from the very little experience which I have observed from
> looking at my mom. So anything which is additionally useful to know
> from a disability aspect, is more than welcome.
>
> 1. Make-up: how do you figure out if the right amount of lipstick,
> eye-liner, amazingly smelling nail polish, and other such things have
> been applied? How do you deal with situations where it has been
> over-applied or some coloring aspects need to be taken care? (I know
> the question is not well framed for lack of my knowledge, but any
> inputs)?
>
> 2. Designs for eyebrows, upper-lips, and whatever that small small
> cutting hairs from sides is called? Third party reliance is the
> solution?
>
> 3. Making things like ponytails? Are they independently doable?
>
> 4. Any other potential challenges (strictly restricted to grooming),
> and solutions?
>
> 5. Any equipment to enhance accessibility on this front?
>
> 6. Any limitations?
>
> 7. If there are trainers, then any practical tips they can share with
> me?  Experiences and method of doing things may differ, but right
> techniques and tips if any?
>
> 8. Has any NGO ever conducted workshop if so, any recordings?
>
> One special request to Delhi people, please shine in here, nobody can
> be better at it than you! If there are aspects which relate to it but
> go beyond my scope of training, then also I would care to know just
> for sake of my own knowledge because I am absolutely unaware about
> this area.
>
> Greatful if people can openly share their views.
>
> Regards,
> Amar Jain
>
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Re: [AI] state bank internet banking comes up with captcha

[Mahendra Galani]

i feel OTP is best way.
At 12:00 PM 12/17/2015 +0530, you wrote:

hey folks, with at most  disapointment  i'd like to share instead of things
making more accessible for visually impaired, banks are making even more
difficult for us. from today, state bank of india and all of its associates
internet banking portal requireds a captcha to be entered while login. to
my surprise, even jaws OCR is not able to recognize the captcha.

at the same time,  i do consider the fact its been done to get more
security for the customers and to get rid of fraudsters. however, no
provisions have been made for visually impaireds. no audio captcha is
there, no login OTP is there the way IRCTC has implimented.

so what should be done to  make it accessible for us

Amit Pahuja
9650519193
State Bank of Travancore


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Re: [AI] Best alternative to capcha

[Mahendra Galani]

i feel OTP is the best way.
At 12:20 PM 12/17/2015 +0530, you wrote:
Hi, Maths question can also be used in place of 
capcha. As we are using on radio udaan's 
website. Thank you Jyoti Malik Programme Manager 
Radio Udaan 
 
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Message- From: Asudani, Rajesh Sent: 
Thursday, December 17, 2015 10:58 AM To: 
AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility 
and issues concerningthe disabled. Subject: Re: 
[AI] Best alternative to capcha OTP perhaps is 
the best alternative, me thinks. सादर / 
With thanks & Regards राजेश 
आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani 
सहायक 
महाप्रबन्धक AGM 
बाजार आसूचना ईकाई 
MIU भारतीय रिजर्व 
बैंक Reserve Bank of India 
नागपुर Nagpur 0712 2806846 President 
VIBEWA Co-Moderator VIB-India A-pilll = Action 
coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic 
and laughter. -Original Message- From: 
AccessIndia 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] 
On Behalf Of Vamshi. G Sent: Thursday, December 
17, 2015 8:09 AM To: accessindia Subject: [AI] 
Best alternative to capcha Dear friends, Can 
someone suggest the best alternative to a capcha 
on a web site? If a weffb site needs to have 
capcha, what can be done to make an accessible 
arrangement for visually impaired.  Recently I 
visited the income tax site where the audio is 
very clear to understand.  OTP is another 
option.  I need other  alternatives along with 
examples where reputed web sites are following 
it. -- G. Vamshi Mobile: +91 9949349497 Skype: 
gvamshi81 WWW.VIBEWA.ORG EQUALITY AND DIGNITY 
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Re: [AI] ID card for on-line railway reservation

[Mahendra Galani]

i just got it after allmost 6 months.
At 08:47 AM 12/17/2015 +0530, you wrote:

Dear list members,
I am from Mumbai. Has anyone from Mumbai got the on-line railway
reservation id card? Please let me know the procedure for the same. I
have submitted all the documents almost 4 months ago but so far I have
not received any reply. Actually they need on-line handicap
certificate But since I am from Dombivali I have to get from
Ulhasnagar civil hospital. They do not have on-line facility. They
only put the registration number by hand. I have an old  Thane
hospital disability certificate which is given on permanent basis
since I have crossed the age limit. So Ulhasnagar hospital does not
issue fresh certificate as well. So what do I need to do.
Also please let me know if there is  any way to submit on-line request
for this id card.
Sincerely,
C. B.. Kulkarni --
Mobile +919820811332 Land line : 0251  2482633
skype ID: chandrashekhar.b.kulkarni



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[AI] Chennai: Disability rights activist dead

[avinash shahi]

http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/chennai/disability-rights-activist-dead/article7994002.ece
G. Chidambaranathan, a well-known disability rights activist and
founder of the Federation of Tamil Nadu Differently Abled
Associations, died of a massive cardiac arrest at a city hospital at
3.15 p.m. on Tuesday.

He was 68. The activist died following a surgery in the morning. Mr.
Chidambaranathan is survived by wife and four daughters.

Note from fellow activist

A note from T.M.N. Deepak, a fellow activist and State president of
the December 3 movement, said Mr. Chidambaranathan had been
instrumental in bringing together people with disabilities to stand up
for their rights.

He started the first association of people with disabilities in
Madurai. He was the editor of Samuga Sevai Sudar , a monthly magazine
on disability rights and developments.

He was also the recipient of the best social worker award of the Tamil
Nadu government in 2007.


-- 
Avinash Shahi
Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU



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[AI] ID card for on-line railway reservation

[Chandrashekhar Kulkarni]

Dear list members,
I am from Mumbai. Has anyone from Mumbai got the on-line railway
reservation id card? Please let me know the procedure for the same. I
have submitted all the documents almost 4 months ago but so far I have
not received any reply. Actually they need on-line handicap
certificate But since I am from Dombivali I have to get from
Ulhasnagar civil hospital. They do not have on-line facility. They
only put the registration number by hand. I have an old  Thane
hospital disability certificate which is given on permanent basis
since I have crossed the age limit. So Ulhasnagar hospital does not
issue fresh certificate as well. So what do I need to do.
Also please let me know if there is  any way to submit on-line request
for this id card.
Sincerely,
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Re: [AI] Anybody using Ausion?

[Pranav Lal]

Yes, if you are referring to the Saksham / IIT smart cane. 

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disabled.' 
Subject: Re: [AI] Anybody using Ausion?

Hello! If this device is detach from the stick, does it helps us if obstacles
are infront of us?

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Hi Anirban,

Yes the device can be used without the cane. The result that you get from the
device is dependent on where you point it and not on if a cane is attached to
it. I frequently detach the device and carry it with me without the cane.

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[AI] Making Partition on Windows Laptop

[raghavendrakarnataka]

Dear List,
I am buying a OS installed Laptop. It comes with C drive only. Kindly write 
how to make partitions.

Hoping for quick response.
Thanks
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Re: [AI] Best alternative to capcha

[shankar shan]

hi
webvisum is the best choice. for solving the capcha
but, due to security  reasons
some of the comurcial  and  government  websites  has disabled the
keyboard navigation

on there registration/search/login pages


and also, there are few solutions  are there, but they are payed 1




On 12/17/15, Vamshi. G  wrote:
> Dear friends,
>
> Can someone suggest the best alternative to a capcha on a web site?
> If a weffb site needs to have capcha, what can be done to make an
> accessible arrangement for visually impaired.  Recently I visited the
> income tax site where the audio is very clear to understand.  OTP is
> another option.  I need other  alternatives along with examples where
> reputed web sites are following it.
>
>
>
> --
> G. Vamshi
> Mobile: +91 9949349497
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>
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[AI] Paper of Interest: Toward a History of the Blind in Spain | Sutherland-Meier

[avinash shahi]

Abstract
This paper uses archival documents, literature, and art to sketch the
history of the blind in Spain. Traditionally, certain occupations,
such as singing and playing musical instruments, saying prayers and
selling chapbooks were reserved for the blind. Spanish artists and
writers have portrayed the blind engaged in these occupations.
Starting in the Middle Ages, the blind established powerful
brotherhoods through which they controlled these professions. The
changing roles that the blind played in the creation, production,
performance and sale of popular literature known as literatura de
cordel show their successful adaptation to an emerging print culture.
The situation of the blind today and the success of the National
Organization of the Spanish Blind (ONCE) are also discussed.
I'm below pasting one interesting section for those who have
difficulty in opening the URL for slow internet connection

The Blind and Literatura de Cordel

In the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries, as printing became more
widespread and the production of pliegos sueltos (literally "loose
sheets" or chapbooks) increased, the role of the blind changed. Oral
performance of the kind observed in the literary examples—singing
ballads and saying prayers and litanies—remained an important source
of income for them. Increasingly, however, they moved into selling
ballads and other genres of literatura de cordel (Rodríguez Marín,
1905; Álvarez Barrientos, 1987; García de Enterría, 1973). Literally
"literature on a string," the term encompasses various genres of
cheap, popular literature printed in pliegos sueltos and most often
sold on the streets. The name derives from the custom of hanging
chapbooks from a string so potential buyers could examine them.

The literary history of early modern Spain provides ample evidence of
the blind as authors, performers and vendors of literatura de cordel
(Caro Baroja, 1969). One subgenre of this literature is so linked to
the blind that for centuries it has been known as the romance de
ciego, or blindman's ballad. Cervantes's exemplary novel La gitanilla
(1613), Lope de Vega's play Santiago el Verde (1615), and the
anonymous Estebanillo González (1646), all contain references to the
blind selling ballads (Caro Baroja, 1969; Rodríguez Moñino, 1976b;
Sutherland, 1991). While it was an extension of their well-established
role as performers, this shift marked the beginning of one of the
great ironies of the history of the blind in Spain: for over three
centuries, their major profession was selling printed texts,
merchandise that they themselves had neither access to nor use for.

Works by blind poets survive in pliegos sueltos from as early as the
second half of the sixteenth century. The titles on many chapbooks
mention the author's name and his blindness; he is said to be "privado
de vista" [deprived of sight] or "privado de vista corporal" [deprived
of bodily sight]. A 1570 chapbook from Valladolid containing "amusing
verses and jokes to sing and play on the vihuela" is a good example:


Coplas y Chistes muy graciosos para cantar y tañer al tono de la
viguela. Ahora nueuamente hechas por Gaspar de la Cintera, priuado de
la vista, natural de Ubeda, y vezino de Granada.6

The author, Gaspar de la Cintera, had a successful career as a poet
and performer; this is just one of his works that survives (Rodríguez
Moñino, 1976b; Sánchez Pérez, n.d.). This title not only tells us he
was blind but also that he was born in the Andalusian town of Ubeda
and lived in Granada.

Two of the most well-studied blind poets from this period are
Cristóbal Bravo (Rodriguez-Moñino, 1976a) and Mateo de Brizuela
(Catedra, 2002). Bravo was from Córdoba; his most famous composition
is El testamento del gallo [The Rooster's Last Will and Testament]. In
this ballad, the rooster leaves parts of his body to others, each
bequest made with a decidedly humorous end in mind. Bravo also
authored a similar piece, El testamento de la zorra [The Vixen's Last
Will and Testament]. Both ballads were enormously popular and were
reprinted well into the nineteenth century. They inspired many
imitations and, eventually, spread into the oral tradition as well
(Pérez Vidal, 1947).

Mateo de Brizuela wrote one of the most commercially-successful
examples of literatura de cordel of all times, La renegada de
Valladolid [The Renegade of Valladolid]. A best-seller for centuries,
the poem tells the story of Agueda, a woman from Valladolid, who is
taken captive, marries a Muslim ruler, and in response to his
entreaties, renounces Christianity. Years later, a Christian captive
(a priest) is brought to her house as a slave. The two later discover
they are sister and brother, and Agueda repents. The second part of
the poem recounts her penance on a mountain near Rome and her
conversion of her two children to Christianity. The oldest extant copy
of Part I is from 1585, though Cátedra (2002) believes Part I first
appeared around 1581 since the oldest 

Re: [AI] Important: Revision of building code for the disabled to focus on accessibility

[George Abraham]

I have invited myself for this meeting! Is there anyone else in Delhi who
might want to attend? If so, please let me know  today before 5 p.m. at
011 26472581/2

Best,

George


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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of avinash shahi
Sent: 17 December 2015 12:20
To: accessindia; jnuvision
Subject: [AI] Important: Revision of building code for the disabled to
focus on accessibility

Any blind accessibility expert will join Mr Abidi and Mrs Agarwal in
the proposed meeting scheduled on 18 December?
If not, sector needs to think...
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Revision-of-building-code-for-the-
disabled-to-focus-on-accessibility/articleshow/50212184.cms
The disability affairs department has swung into action to help ensure
that the National Building Code (NBC), which is being revised, will
ensure accessibility for the disabled across all public spaces. A
meeting of all stakeholders including the director general of the
Bureau of Indian Standards, in charge of the code revision, and
accessibility experts from the disability sector has been called on
December 18.
 "To ensure that all accessibility related standards are incorporated
in the National Building Code (NBC), the secretary, the department of
empowerment of persons with disabilities would like to have a detailed
discussion with the director general of Bureau of Indian Standards
(BIS) and senior officials of the ministry of consumer affairs,"
stated the letter issued by joint secretary of the department, Mukesh
Jain. It is expected that the meeting will be attended by a joint
secretary from the urban development ministry as well as Javed Abidi
of the National Centre for Promotion of Employment for Disabled People
(NCPEDP), Anjlee Agarwal of Samarthyam, an organisation working to
ensure accessible environments, and other accessibility experts.

.


.
 The Times of India had reported last week how several parts of the
draft of the revised NBC did not include accessibility features. The
disability sector has been demanding that every part of the code ought
to be reviewed keeping accessibility in mind, and not just the part
containing provisions relating to a barrier-free environment. However,
BIS officials in charge of the revision have been saying that it had
to be completed in a time-bound manner and that the revised code "is
to be published urgently as per the mandate of Government of India".
They said that any comments on the draft had to reach them before
December 24.
 The department's letter referred to the prime minister's speech read
out at the launch of the Accessible India Campaign which said that it
was a "mission to change the physical and virtual infrastructure of
the country so as to make it more accessible and inclusive for PwDs."
He added that the campaign would pave the way for equal rights and
participation of the disabled in all community activities.

.


.
 "The revision is happening after 10 years. We cannot let go of this
opportunity to do a comprehensive review and catch up with lost time.
Why can't they delay it by a few more months? Is the deadline more
important than ensuring that everything built in this country will be
accessible from now on?" asked Abidi.

.

.

-- 
Avinash Shahi
Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU



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Re: [AI] Best alternative to capcha

[George Abraham]

Have raised the issue with the SBI Chairperson and also have written to Mr 
Mukesh Jain JS, MSJE who is driving  the accessible India campaign.

Regards,

George


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Asudani, Rajesh
Sent: 17 December 2015 12:35
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Best alternative to capcha

earlier, www.indianrail.gov.in

was using it for PNR checking.
Of late, they too have shifted to regular captchha.

Perhaps such simple questions can now be read and solved by machines.


सादर / With thanks & Regards
राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani
सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM
बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU
भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India
नागपुर Nagpur

0712 2806846

President
VIBEWA
Co-Moderator
VIB-India

A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and laughter.


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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Jyoti
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 12:21 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Best alternative to capcha

Hi,
Maths question can also be used in place of capcha. As we are using on radio
udaan's website.



Thank you
Jyoti Malik
Programme Manager
Radio Udaan

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From: Asudani, Rajesh
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 10:58 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Best alternative to capcha

OTP perhaps is the best alternative, me thinks.


सादर / With thanks & Regards
राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani
सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM
बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU
भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India
नागपुर Nagpur

0712 2806846

President
VIBEWA
Co-Moderator
VIB-India

A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and
laughter.

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Vamshi. G
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 8:09 AM
To: accessindia
Subject: [AI] Best alternative to capcha

Dear friends,

Can someone suggest the best alternative to a capcha on a web site?
If a weffb site needs to have capcha, what can be done to make an
accessible arrangement for visually impaired.  Recently I visited the
income tax site where the audio is very clear to understand.  OTP is
another option.  I need other  alternatives along with examples where
reputed web sites are following it.



--
G. Vamshi
Mobile: +91 9949349497
Skype: gvamshi81

WWW.VIBEWA.ORG
EQUALITY AND DIGNITY



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Re: [AI] Paytm

[Sheik Mohammedali]

Mukeshji,
Is it still working for you under firefox latest? it does not seem to be 
worked.  yes sure please download the add-on and there is an xml file which 
adds list of mobile handsets interface that I can provide you.


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From: "mukesh jain" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled." 

Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 2:56 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Paytm



hello sheik sir,
indeed, very good information. actually, nowadays, there are lots of
addons available for browser which makes the criteria such as,
accessibility, navigation, search etc makes more easier within the
browser adding more support capabilities. so more and more information
on addons is certainly a good option.

i have been so far using
m.paytm.com

on firefox latest 42.00 and didn't faced any difficulties hence,
thought to suggest this way.

so surely look for this addon and install.
thanks,

On 12/16/15, Sheik Mohammedali  wrote:

Hi Mukesh!
indeed you are right but that m.paytm.com does not work at least in 
latest

browsers such as firefox and internet explorer.  well, coming to make it
accessible there is an add-on for mozilla firefox "user agent" which can
turn your browser in to mobile browser where you can open all sites in a
mobile friendly environment.  in the earlier days in fact, youtube and 
and

paytm were opening by default when we input m.site.com but now apart from
facebook no site will be opened in the mobile environment.
apart from this paytm you can get benefited from the youtube if you 
install


real player which streams video in the mobile quality.  Raju I will reach
you offline mate.


- Original Message -
From: "mukesh jain" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled." 
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 1:05 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Paytm



hello,
step by step
paytm is fully accessible from the pc and mobile. if you face the
difficulties in using paytm from pc then simply point your browser to:
m.paytm.com

login with your details and you are ready to go with your favorite
shopping.



On 12/16/15, raaju  wrote:

Hello shiek sir, please tell me step by step how one can make paytm
completely accessible on pc? My id is bidh...@gmail.com or you simply
can
whatsapp me, its 09733236784 (airtel) waiting your answer

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Of sheik mohammedali
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 10:17 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Paytm

those who wish to make it accessible on PC let me know there is a way 
to

make it completely accessible.


Sent from my iPhone

On 15-Dec-2015, at 9:15 PM, akshun mahajan 


wrote:


sir it is not but it is accessible on phone and with app.


On 12/15/15, George Abraham  wrote:
Friends,



Just want to know if PayTM is accessible?



Regards,



George

CEO

Score Foundation

17/107, LGF,

Vikramvihar, Lajpatnagar 4,

New Delhi 110024

Ph: 91 11 26472581,91 11 46070396

Mob: 91 9810934040

Email: geo...@eyeway.org

Website: www.scorefoundation.org.in/www.eyeway.org

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[AI] Moderator: RE: FYI: 'Disabled rights Bill to be put before cabinet in a day or two'

[Kotian, H P]

All

I think, this thread has lost steam and we now close it.
Harish Kotian


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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Avichal Bhatnagar
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2015 10:10 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] FYI: 'Disabled rights Bill to be put before cabinet in a day 
or two'

I agree Avinash, you should definetly ask him this question, you have every 
right to do so.
My interpretation is that in India, anything that is treated as divine gains 
lot of respect in society.
So, may be PM wanted to use this word to remove the prejudices and stereotypes 
which people have for the disabled.

On 12/15/15, bala9119  wrote:
> Of course he will have an answer. in whatever way we differ from Mr.
> Modi, we need to accept the unquestionable truth that he has the
> ability to justify the hell as heaven and make you jump into it. but,
> Avinash bro, when we have his followers from our community who love to
> be divyangs for no reason, what would validate that these jargons
> would be stopped in the future? although they favour, they themselves
> know that they can't have divine blindness.
> cheers.
> On 12/15/15, avinash shahi  wrote:
>> No, I think sustained discussion on the 'divyang' is warranted in
>> India. The prime Minister needs to make us understand the rationale
>> behind the usage of 'divyang'. If I'm not wrong the usage
>> 'differently-abled' was first used by an US atlantic magazine in 1983
>> and it was resisted in US but this usage acquired prominence in the
>> third-world countries. The media play an important role in
>> mainstreaming disability terminologies in the popular culture; Indian
>> media is also equally responsible for non-responsible reporting of
>> disability usage. There is a handbook published by Chicago University
>> about guidelines for media on disability reportage however we have
>> nothing of such sort in India. Indian mythological texts depicted
>> disabled people as sinners who committed crimes in their previous
>> birth. However if the prime minister things we are 'divyang' then its
>> a great departure from the past. Therefore it is imperative for Mr
>> Modi to enlighten us why he things we are 'divyang'. Lets not discuss
>> issues abstractly, lets ask questions and nurture a culture of
>> engaging substantially with the burning issues of the day. Why only
>> disabled people are 'specially-abled' why not Mr Modi who's charisma
>> led to BJP's thumping majority at the Centre. If I hhappen to meet
>> Modi anytime soon I'd ask him why he things we are 'divyang'.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/15/15, Avichal Bhatnagar  wrote:
>>> The biggest problem is that people are targeting pm on his
>>> suggestion of divyang, which may divert the attention from the main issue.
>>> Yes, I also criticize the centre for not bringing sensible
>>> guidelines, but making a mountain out of a molehill will lead us nowhere.
>>> Any further discussion on this issue will be like the opposition's
>>> hungama on non-existent issues in rajya sabha!
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/15/15, bala9119  wrote:
 Let me tell you how it stopped the development. while the PM is
 keen to call the disabled as Divyang, he and his colleagues failed
 to know the trend in conducting exams for the disabled. if you have
 doubt, read the RRB's ridiculous scribe guidelines. moreover, while
 the PM is keen to have a feeling for the disabled as "divine body",
 he and his government failed to recognize the importance of CCPD.
 "when the blind has the blind feeling on the sighted, that's the
 foremost drawback of the community." congratulations for being one of the 
 drawbacks.
 cheers.
 On 12/14/15, Avichal Bhatnagar  wrote:
> How does calling the disabled as divinely bodied stop their
> development?
> Look at the feeling, not the word.
>
> On 12/11/15, bala9119  wrote:
>> Where is development? calling the disabled as people with divine
>> body means we are developed? good.
>> cheers.
>> On 12/11/15, Avichal Bhatnagar  wrote:
>>> Yes, so that the disabled get only their statues erected instead
>>> of development.
>>>
>>> On 12/11/15, bala9119  wrote:
 Let the disabled have Kanshiram or Mayavati but not another
 Narendra Modi! only one is enough to blindfold the population.
 cheers.
 On 12/11/15, avinash shahi  wrote:
> Someone was suggesting an analogy between MK Gandhi's
> 'harijan' and Modi's 'divyang'! So Gandhi had special love for
> 'harijan' and our PM has for 'divyang'. Perhaps Disability
> sector will soon have Kanshiram and Mayawati in the days 

Re: [AI] LIC employment notice: only low vision, not for totally blind!

[SANTOSH GANDIGUDE]

Why this condition will be applicable?
The Government gives the certificates of 40%,75% and 100%.
Where is the 74%?
This is injustice with those having more than 75% disability
Please somebody file the case in CCPD office.

On Wed, 16/12/15, Vamshi. G  wrote:

 Subject: [AI]  LIC employment notice: only low vision, not for totally blind!
 To: "accessindia" 
 Date: Wednesday, 16 December, 2015, 2:16 PM
 
 Dear friends,
 
 LIC India has notified for the post of Assistant
 administrative
 officer(generalist).  They mentioned that persons with
 visual
 impairment between 40 and 74 % only are eligible for
 applying.  This
 will grossly deny the opportunities for totally blind.
 
 Visit the notice at
 http://www.licindia.in/Recruitment_Assistant_Administrative_Officer.html
 
  Advocacy organisations/individuals,
 
 Please act immediately.
 
 -- 
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 Mobile: +91 9949349497
 Skype: gvamshi81
 
 WWW.VIBEWA.ORG
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[AI] Why Government Consider Night blindness as Visually Handicapped?

[SANTOSH GANDIGUDE]

Please tell anybody why the government consider Night Blindness as Visually 
Handicapped?



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[AI] LIC employment notice: only low vision, not for totally blind!

[Vamshi. G]

Dear friends,

LIC India has notified for the post of Assistant administrative
officer(generalist).  They mentioned that persons with visual
impairment between 40 and 74 % only are eligible for applying.  This
will grossly deny the opportunities for totally blind.

Visit the notice at
http://www.licindia.in/Recruitment_Assistant_Administrative_Officer.html

 Advocacy organisations/individuals,

Please act immediately.

-- 
G. Vamshi
Mobile: +91 9949349497
Skype: gvamshi81

WWW.VIBEWA.ORG
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Re: [AI] Paytm

[gufran ahmed]

hi sheik usually i use paytm through android app. but it would be
wonderful if you could share those tricks here.

On 12/16/15, Surya Prakash  wrote:
> Hi Shek,
> keep the discussion online so  that all users will be benefitted.
> Surya
>
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> On December 16, 2015 1:34:39 PM "Sheik Mohammedali"
>  wrote:
>
>> Hi Mukesh!
>> indeed you are right but that m.paytm.com does not work at least in
>> latest
>> browsers such as firefox and internet explorer.  well, coming to make it
>> accessible there is an add-on for mozilla firefox "user agent" which can
>> turn your browser in to mobile browser where you can open all sites in a
>> mobile friendly environment.  in the earlier days in fact, youtube and
>> and
>> paytm were opening by default when we input m.site.com but now apart from
>> facebook no site will be opened in the mobile environment.
>> apart from this paytm you can get benefited from the youtube if you
>> install
>> real player which streams video in the mobile quality.  Raju I will reach
>> you offline mate.
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "mukesh jain" 
>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerningthe disabled." 
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 1:05 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Paytm
>>
>>
>>> hello,
>>> step by step
>>> paytm is fully accessible from the pc and mobile. if you face the
>>> difficulties in using paytm from pc then simply point your browser to:
>>> m.paytm.com
>>>
>>> login with your details and you are ready to go with your favorite
>>> shopping.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/16/15, raaju  wrote:
 Hello shiek sir, please tell me step by step how one can make paytm
 completely accessible on pc? My id is bidh...@gmail.com or you simply
 can
 whatsapp me, its 09733236784 (airtel) waiting your answer

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of sheik mohammedali
 Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 10:17 AM
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerning
 the disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] Paytm

 those who wish to make it accessible on PC let me know there is a way
 to
 make it completely accessible.


 Sent from my iPhone

> On 15-Dec-2015, at 9:15 PM, akshun mahajan
> 
 wrote:
>
> sir it is not but it is accessible on phone and with app.
>
>> On 12/15/15, George Abraham  wrote:
>> Friends,
>>
>>
>>
>> Just want to know if PayTM is accessible?
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> George
>>
>> CEO
>>
>> Score Foundation
>>
>> 17/107, LGF,
>>
>> Vikramvihar, Lajpatnagar 4,
>>
>> New Delhi 110024
>>
>> Ph: 91 11 26472581,91 11 46070396
>>
>> Mob: 91 9810934040
>>
>> Email: geo...@eyeway.org
>>
>> Website: www.scorefoundation.org.in/www.eyeway.org
>>
>> Skype: georgeabraham13
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [AI] Girls and Women with Disabilities: share your ways of grooming and tasks like make-up

[Amar Jain]

Hi Avinash And All,

1. This training is not part of my profession.

2. The students I am talking about do not have exposure to social
settings as you or I will have. Since I have studied in a blind
school, I do understand this potential challenge, (which you will
understand too), and apart from other support which I am working on to
empower the upcoming students for using research tools, technologies,
potential challenges of formatting and other aspects in our sector,
this is another aspect I am working on.

Everyone so doubtful about me asking this question may read this blog
here (though it does not capture the workshop I will be working on):
http://idialaw.com/blog/idia-launches-idap-team/

3. Why I haven't included males is simply because I have myself done
such courses, and I can share my own practical experiences which after
discussions with many individuals is on the same lines, so I really
didn't feel the need of inputs on those aspects at this time.  But
this area is something I was clueless about (although I am better
informed after discussion with my mom on this and after few good
individuals who have helped me understand the basics).

And even then if anyone or you feel you can contribute something, then
you are more than welcome to write to me.

If people on the list do take this question in a negative way, then
let's stop this threat here itself, I would not want all of us to lose
the sight of the topic and start counter arguing with each other which
will result in nothing qualitative. Although I do not get the reason
of looking at this e-mail with a critical view.

 Regards,
-- 
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Website: www.amarjain.com



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Re: [AI] Paytm

[Surya Prakash]

Hi Shek,
keep the discussion online so  that all users will be benefitted.
Surya

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On December 16, 2015 1:34:39 PM "Sheik Mohammedali" 
 wrote:



Hi Mukesh!
indeed you are right but that m.paytm.com does not work at least in latest
browsers such as firefox and internet explorer.  well, coming to make it
accessible there is an add-on for mozilla firefox "user agent" which can
turn your browser in to mobile browser where you can open all sites in a
mobile friendly environment.  in the earlier days in fact, youtube and and
paytm were opening by default when we input m.site.com but now apart from
facebook no site will be opened in the mobile environment.
apart from this paytm you can get benefited from the youtube if you install
real player which streams video in the mobile quality.  Raju I will reach
you offline mate.


- Original Message -
From: "mukesh jain" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled." 
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 1:05 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Paytm



hello,
step by step
paytm is fully accessible from the pc and mobile. if you face the
difficulties in using paytm from pc then simply point your browser to:
m.paytm.com

login with your details and you are ready to go with your favorite
shopping.



On 12/16/15, raaju  wrote:

Hello shiek sir, please tell me step by step how one can make paytm
completely accessible on pc? My id is bidh...@gmail.com or you simply can
whatsapp me, its 09733236784 (airtel) waiting your answer

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf
Of sheik mohammedali
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 10:17 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Paytm

those who wish to make it accessible on PC let me know there is a way to
make it completely accessible.


Sent from my iPhone


On 15-Dec-2015, at 9:15 PM, akshun mahajan 

wrote:


sir it is not but it is accessible on phone and with app.


On 12/15/15, George Abraham  wrote:
Friends,



Just want to know if PayTM is accessible?



Regards,



George

CEO

Score Foundation

17/107, LGF,

Vikramvihar, Lajpatnagar 4,

New Delhi 110024

Ph: 91 11 26472581,91 11 46070396

Mob: 91 9810934040

Email: geo...@eyeway.org

Website: www.scorefoundation.org.in/www.eyeway.org

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Re: [AI] Paytm

[mukesh jain]

hello sheikh sir,
yes, just now even i have checked and its working fine. i have cross
checked my add-ons in firefox under tools\add ons and nothing seems to
have been installed starting with  user as sometimes addons gets
installed with bit mistake by clicking accidentally (witch happens
sometimes with me)  i have other addons like adobe, video download
helper webvisum etc. i am running latest firefox 42.00
thanks,


On 12/16/15, Sheik Mohammedali  wrote:
> Mukeshji,
> Is it still working for you under firefox latest? it does not seem to be
> worked.  yes sure please download the add-on and there is an xml file which
>
> adds list of mobile handsets interface that I can provide you.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "mukesh jain" 
> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
> concerningthe disabled." 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 2:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Paytm
>
>
>> hello sheik sir,
>> indeed, very good information. actually, nowadays, there are lots of
>> addons available for browser which makes the criteria such as,
>> accessibility, navigation, search etc makes more easier within the
>> browser adding more support capabilities. so more and more information
>> on addons is certainly a good option.
>>
>> i have been so far using
>> m.paytm.com
>>
>> on firefox latest 42.00 and didn't faced any difficulties hence,
>> thought to suggest this way.
>>
>> so surely look for this addon and install.
>> thanks,
>>
>> On 12/16/15, Sheik Mohammedali  wrote:
>>> Hi Mukesh!
>>> indeed you are right but that m.paytm.com does not work at least in
>>> latest
>>> browsers such as firefox and internet explorer.  well, coming to make it
>>> accessible there is an add-on for mozilla firefox "user agent" which can
>>> turn your browser in to mobile browser where you can open all sites in a
>>> mobile friendly environment.  in the earlier days in fact, youtube and
>>> and
>>> paytm were opening by default when we input m.site.com but now apart
>>> from
>>> facebook no site will be opened in the mobile environment.
>>> apart from this paytm you can get benefited from the youtube if you
>>> install
>>>
>>> real player which streams video in the mobile quality.  Raju I will
>>> reach
>>> you offline mate.
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "mukesh jain" 
>>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerningthe disabled." 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 1:05 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Paytm
>>>
>>>
 hello,
 step by step
 paytm is fully accessible from the pc and mobile. if you face the
 difficulties in using paytm from pc then simply point your browser to:
 m.paytm.com

 login with your details and you are ready to go with your favorite
 shopping.



 On 12/16/15, raaju  wrote:
> Hello shiek sir, please tell me step by step how one can make paytm
> completely accessible on pc? My id is bidh...@gmail.com or you simply
> can
> whatsapp me, its 09733236784 (airtel) waiting your answer
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
> Behalf
> Of sheik mohammedali
> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 10:17 AM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
> concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] Paytm
>
> those who wish to make it accessible on PC let me know there is a way
> to
> make it completely accessible.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 15-Dec-2015, at 9:15 PM, akshun mahajan
>> 
> wrote:
>>
>> sir it is not but it is accessible on phone and with app.
>>
>>> On 12/15/15, George Abraham  wrote:
>>> Friends,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Just want to know if PayTM is accessible?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> George
>>>
>>> CEO
>>>
>>> Score Foundation
>>>
>>> 17/107, LGF,
>>>
>>> Vikramvihar, Lajpatnagar 4,
>>>
>>> New Delhi 110024
>>>
>>> Ph: 91 11 26472581,91 11 46070396
>>>
>>> Mob: 91 9810934040
>>>
>>> Email: geo...@eyeway.org
>>>
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>>>
>>> Skype: georgeabraham13
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [AI] Paytm

[mukesh jain]

hello sheik sir,
indeed, very good information. actually, nowadays, there are lots of
addons available for browser which makes the criteria such as,
accessibility, navigation, search etc makes more easier within the
browser adding more support capabilities. so more and more information
on addons is certainly a good option.

i have been so far using
m.paytm.com

on firefox latest 42.00 and didn't faced any difficulties hence,
thought to suggest this way.

so surely look for this addon and install.
thanks,

On 12/16/15, Sheik Mohammedali  wrote:
> Hi Mukesh!
> indeed you are right but that m.paytm.com does not work at least in latest
> browsers such as firefox and internet explorer.  well, coming to make it
> accessible there is an add-on for mozilla firefox "user agent" which can
> turn your browser in to mobile browser where you can open all sites in a
> mobile friendly environment.  in the earlier days in fact, youtube and and
> paytm were opening by default when we input m.site.com but now apart from
> facebook no site will be opened in the mobile environment.
> apart from this paytm you can get benefited from the youtube if you install
>
> real player which streams video in the mobile quality.  Raju I will reach
> you offline mate.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "mukesh jain" 
> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
> concerningthe disabled." 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 1:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Paytm
>
>
>> hello,
>> step by step
>> paytm is fully accessible from the pc and mobile. if you face the
>> difficulties in using paytm from pc then simply point your browser to:
>> m.paytm.com
>>
>> login with your details and you are ready to go with your favorite
>> shopping.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/16/15, raaju  wrote:
>>> Hello shiek sir, please tell me step by step how one can make paytm
>>> completely accessible on pc? My id is bidh...@gmail.com or you simply
>>> can
>>> whatsapp me, its 09733236784 (airtel) waiting your answer
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of sheik mohammedali
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 10:17 AM
>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerning
>>> the disabled.
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Paytm
>>>
>>> those who wish to make it accessible on PC let me know there is a way to
>>> make it completely accessible.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
 On 15-Dec-2015, at 9:15 PM, akshun mahajan 
>>> wrote:

 sir it is not but it is accessible on phone and with app.

> On 12/15/15, George Abraham  wrote:
> Friends,
>
>
>
> Just want to know if PayTM is accessible?
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> George
>
> CEO
>
> Score Foundation
>
> 17/107, LGF,
>
> Vikramvihar, Lajpatnagar 4,
>
> New Delhi 110024
>
> Ph: 91 11 26472581,91 11 46070396
>
> Mob: 91 9810934040
>
> Email: geo...@eyeway.org
>
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>
> Skype: georgeabraham13
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [AI] Dell's new issue for JAWS users

[Aakash Bansal]

Hey Ekinath Khedekar,

You was on the right page.
Pls  repeat the steps again, after reading below steps-
1. Press window+x to open the mobility center.
2. continue pressing tab button, after sync setting you will get
projector then bluetooth then wireless and then you will reach to
function key option.
3. Change the option to function instead of multimedia.

Try once again and let me know if you still facing problem.

If you are a facebook user then i would like to request you to like
this page- https://www.facebook.com/pwsav/


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>   ministry frames accessibility guidelines for buildings (Amar Jain)
>2. Re: Dell's new problem for JAWS users (Ekinath Khedekar)
>3. Re: request for scribe in chennai (Sakthi e)
>4. Match making website 900 profiles (DISABLED MATRIMONIAL)
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>6. Re: Girls and Women with Disabilities: share your ways of
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>8. Daily Eyeway Alerts (Eyeway Helpdesk)
>9. Re: Solve a problem of laptop. (nitesh gupta)
>   10. Re: FYI: 'Disabled rights Bill to be put before cabinet in a
>   day or two' (Avichal Bhatnagar)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 14:21:21 +0530
> From: Amar Jain 
> To: accessindia ,
>   satyam.gajw...@timesgroup.com,  bodhisatva.gang...@timesgroup.com
> Subject: [AI] Inaccurate reporting by Times Group: Urban development
>   ministry frames accessibility guidelines for buildings
> Message-ID:
>   
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> Dear Mr. Gajwani / Editorial Team of Economic Times,
>
> I am a corporate lawyer with blindness, and I invite your attention to
> an article published in Economic Times:
> http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/economy/policy/urban-development-ministry-frames-accessibility-guidelines-for-buildings/articleshow/50159164.cms
>
> An article on the similar lines was published in Times of India
> approximately two days before the date of this e-mail.
>
> The news items incorrectly state that the ministry concerned has
> prepared guidelines on the captioned subject, whereas the correct
> position as on date is that the ministry has issued a draft for public
> consultation on which comments are due by 7 January 2016.  For your
> reference, the draft is here:
> http://moud.gov.in/sites/upload_files/moud/files/Harmonised_Guidelines_Draft.pdf
>
> A ministry release put up on the website for inviting comments is
> here: http://moud.gov.in/sites/upload_files/moud/files/pdf/HG_guideline.pdf
>
> You may recollect, long back I had e-mailed you about inaccessibility
> of Times Group mobile apps and websites, and your educated VP Mr.
> Punit happily replied that they will embed screen reader facility in
> their application without realising the economics involved and without
> putting any brain on the issue.
>
> Leaving everything aside, I want your editors to furnish a
> clarifications as to how and what level of quality check was done
> before these news items were published, and why appropriate action
> should not be taken for inaccurate reporting among others.
>
> Your team can reach out to me on: +91-9892622230 or respond to this e-mail.
>
> I am also copying Access India (a mailing list on disability and
> blindness related issues of approximately 2600 subscribers which
> include organizations too), for sending similar e-mails if this kind
> of journalism is not acceptable to them.
>
> Appreciate your team's response within seven working days from the
> date of this e-mail.
>
> Regards,
> Amar Jain
>
>
>
> 

Re: [AI] FYI: 'Disabled rights Bill to be put before cabinet in a day or two'

[Sruti disAbility Rights Centre]

Avinash,

This is to rectify your statement that there is no guideline for media in
India. Quite some time ago, I cannot remember the year at this moment,
Rehabilitation Council of India published a "Media Style Guide" which was
available free of cost from their office and was also there in their
website. But I do not think there was much discussions on this around then
as research/discussions/debates which are important for the sector to grow,
was much less those days.. I know about it as we used it for our first
media studies and I still have a print copy of the same.

Regards
Shampa

On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 3:18 PM, avinash shahi 
wrote:

> No, I think sustained discussion on the 'divyang' is warranted in
> India. The prime Minister needs to make us understand the rationale
> behind the usage of 'divyang'. If I'm not wrong the usage
> 'differently-abled' was first used by an US atlantic magazine in 1983
> and it was resisted in US but this usage acquired prominence in the
> third-world countries. The media play an important role in
> mainstreaming disability terminologies in the popular culture; Indian
> media is also equally responsible for non-responsible reporting of
> disability usage. There is a handbook published by Chicago University
> about guidelines for media on disability reportage however we have
> nothing of such sort in India. Indian mythological texts depicted
> disabled people as sinners who committed crimes in their previous
> birth. However if the prime minister things we are 'divyang' then its
> a great departure from the past. Therefore it is imperative for Mr
> Modi to enlighten us why he things we are 'divyang'. Lets not discuss
> issues abstractly, lets ask questions and nurture a culture of
> engaging substantially with the burning issues of the day. Why only
> disabled people are 'specially-abled' why not Mr Modi who's charisma
> led to BJP's thumping majority at the Centre. If I hhappen to meet
> Modi anytime soon I'd ask him why he things we are 'divyang'.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 12/15/15, Avichal Bhatnagar  wrote:
> > The biggest problem is that people are targeting pm on his suggestion
> > of divyang, which may divert the attention from the main issue.
> > Yes, I also criticize the centre for not bringing sensible guidelines,
> > but making a mountain out of a molehill will lead us nowhere.
> > Any further discussion on this issue will be like the opposition's
> > hungama on non-existent issues in rajya sabha!
> >
> >
> > On 12/15/15, bala9119  wrote:
> >> Let me tell you how it stopped the development. while the PM is keen
> >> to call the disabled as Divyang, he and his colleagues failed to know
> >> the trend in conducting exams for the disabled. if you have doubt,
> >> read the RRB's ridiculous scribe guidelines. moreover, while the PM is
> >> keen to have a feeling for the disabled as "divine body", he and his
> >> government failed to recognize the importance of CCPD. "when the blind
> >> has the blind feeling on the sighted, that's the foremost drawback of
> >> the community." congratulations for being one of the drawbacks.
> >> cheers.
> >> On 12/14/15, Avichal Bhatnagar  wrote:
> >>> How does calling the disabled as divinely bodied stop their
> development?
> >>> Look at the feeling, not the word.
> >>>
> >>> On 12/11/15, bala9119  wrote:
>  Where is development? calling the disabled as people with divine body
>  means we are developed? good.
>  cheers.
>  On 12/11/15, Avichal Bhatnagar  wrote:
> > Yes, so that the disabled get only their statues erected instead of
> > development.
> >
> > On 12/11/15, bala9119  wrote:
> >> Let the disabled have Kanshiram or Mayavati but not another Narendra
> >> Modi! only one is enough to blindfold the population.
> >> cheers.
> >> On 12/11/15, avinash shahi  wrote:
> >>> Someone was suggesting an analogy between MK Gandhi's 'harijan' and
> >>> Modi's 'divyang'! So Gandhi had special love for 'harijan' and our
> PM
> >>> has for 'divyang'. Perhaps Disability sector will soon have
> Kanshiram
> >>> and Mayawati in the days to come, smiles.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 12/11/15, Asudani, Rajesh  wrote:
>  Divyang in english means
>  "Divine body"
>  Or
>  divine organs.
> 
>  No, nothing is wrong as Modi baba has pronounced it.
> 
> 
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Re: [AI] Girls and Women with Disabilities: share your ways of grooming and tasks like make-up

[Preeti Monga]

Dear Amar,

This is a very strange mail. I am a little confused on why you wish to have
this topic discussed on mail? I doubt we want to talk about such personal
things on e mail. If there are any queries, you can always call me and I can
give you information as to what is it that you actually need. Do let me know
if I can help?
Warmly
Preeti

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-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Amar Jain
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2015 12:33 PM
To: accessindia
Cc: Preeti Monga
Subject: [AI] Girls and Women with Disabilities: share your ways of grooming
and tasks like make-up

Dear Female members of the list (could potentially involve married
male partners too if they have cared to be aware),

I am working on something for my legal sector specifically, which
involves training people with visual impairment or total blindness on
personality, grooming, both professionally and for situations like
party etc. Although a healthy discussion on this topic can help many
people who are new too this field or who have not openly sought
solution for something of this kind, which is a part of any occasion
in any female's life, but if someone is not open to share the thoughts
on this threat, then an e-mail or a phone call (if you know me and are
comfortable to discuss), will be greatly appreciated.

Before I put forward my questions, let me also tell you that I just
have general awareness of these aspects which relates to a female's
grooming, from the very little experience which I have observed from
looking at my mom. So anything which is additionally useful to know
from a disability aspect, is more than welcome.

1. Make-up: how do you figure out if the right amount of lipstick,
eye-liner, amazingly smelling nail polish, and other such things have
been applied? How do you deal with situations where it has been
over-applied or some coloring aspects need to be taken care? (I know
the question is not well framed for lack of my knowledge, but any
inputs)?

2. Designs for eyebrows, upper-lips, and whatever that small small
cutting hairs from sides is called? Third party reliance is the
solution?

3. Making things like ponytails? Are they independently doable?

4. Any other potential challenges (strictly restricted to grooming),
and solutions?

5. Any equipment to enhance accessibility on this front?

6. Any limitations?

7. If there are trainers, then any practical tips they can share with
me?  Experiences and method of doing things may differ, but right
techniques and tips if any?

8. Has any NGO ever conducted workshop if so, any recordings?

One special request to Delhi people, please shine in here, nobody can
be better at it than you! If there are aspects which relate to it but
go beyond my scope of training, then also I would care to know just
for sake of my own knowledge because I am absolutely unaware about
this area.

Greatful if people can openly share their views.

Regards,
Amar Jain



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Re: [AI] FYI: 'Disabled rights Bill to be put before cabinet in a day or two'

[Sruti disAbility Rights Centre]

It is important to remember here that Dalit movement have discarded the
term Harijan which was conferred upon them and did not came as a demand of
the Dalit people themselves. They prefer the term Dalit because it is their
identity and there's history of discrimination about same. Similarly womens
movement do not like the idea of alleviating women to "Devi" - one of the
slogans we use in womens movement is "We do not want to be Devi We do not
want to be Dashi, but we just want to remain human beings" (rough
translation from vernacular).

However well-intentioned the Prime Minister was when he used the word, it
should be open to debate from disability groups.

Regards

Shampa Sengupta

On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 10:09 PM, Avichal Bhatnagar 
wrote:

> I agree Avinash, you should definetly ask him this question, you have
> every right to do so.
> My interpretation is that in India, anything that is treated as divine
> gains lot of respect in society.
> So, may be PM wanted to use this word to remove the prejudices and
> stereotypes which people have for the disabled.
>
> On 12/15/15, bala9119  wrote:
> > Of course he will have an answer. in whatever way we differ from Mr.
> > Modi, we need to accept the unquestionable truth that he has the
> > ability to justify the hell as heaven and make you jump into it. but,
> > Avinash bro, when we have his followers from our community who love to
> > be divyangs for no reason, what would validate that these jargons
> > would be stopped in the future? although they favour, they themselves
> > know that they can't have divine blindness.
> > cheers.
> > On 12/15/15, avinash shahi  wrote:
> >> No, I think sustained discussion on the 'divyang' is warranted in
> >> India. The prime Minister needs to make us understand the rationale
> >> behind the usage of 'divyang'. If I'm not wrong the usage
> >> 'differently-abled' was first used by an US atlantic magazine in 1983
> >> and it was resisted in US but this usage acquired prominence in the
> >> third-world countries. The media play an important role in
> >> mainstreaming disability terminologies in the popular culture; Indian
> >> media is also equally responsible for non-responsible reporting of
> >> disability usage. There is a handbook published by Chicago University
> >> about guidelines for media on disability reportage however we have
> >> nothing of such sort in India. Indian mythological texts depicted
> >> disabled people as sinners who committed crimes in their previous
> >> birth. However if the prime minister things we are 'divyang' then its
> >> a great departure from the past. Therefore it is imperative for Mr
> >> Modi to enlighten us why he things we are 'divyang'. Lets not discuss
> >> issues abstractly, lets ask questions and nurture a culture of
> >> engaging substantially with the burning issues of the day. Why only
> >> disabled people are 'specially-abled' why not Mr Modi who's charisma
> >> led to BJP's thumping majority at the Centre. If I hhappen to meet
> >> Modi anytime soon I'd ask him why he things we are 'divyang'.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 12/15/15, Avichal Bhatnagar  wrote:
> >>> The biggest problem is that people are targeting pm on his suggestion
> >>> of divyang, which may divert the attention from the main issue.
> >>> Yes, I also criticize the centre for not bringing sensible guidelines,
> >>> but making a mountain out of a molehill will lead us nowhere.
> >>> Any further discussion on this issue will be like the opposition's
> >>> hungama on non-existent issues in rajya sabha!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 12/15/15, bala9119  wrote:
>  Let me tell you how it stopped the development. while the PM is keen
>  to call the disabled as Divyang, he and his colleagues failed to know
>  the trend in conducting exams for the disabled. if you have doubt,
>  read the RRB's ridiculous scribe guidelines. moreover, while the PM is
>  keen to have a feeling for the disabled as "divine body", he and his
>  government failed to recognize the importance of CCPD. "when the blind
>  has the blind feeling on the sighted, that's the foremost drawback of
>  the community." congratulations for being one of the drawbacks.
>  cheers.
>  On 12/14/15, Avichal Bhatnagar  wrote:
> > How does calling the disabled as divinely bodied stop their
> > development?
> > Look at the feeling, not the word.
> >
> > On 12/11/15, bala9119  wrote:
> >> Where is development? calling the disabled as people with divine
> body
> >> means we are developed? good.
> >> cheers.
> >> On 12/11/15, Avichal Bhatnagar  wrote:
> >>> Yes, so that the disabled get only their statues erected instead of
> >>> development.
> >>>
> >>> On 12/11/15, bala9119  wrote:
> 

Re: [AI] article of interest This Small Device developed in India Will Help Blind People Echolocate

[Asudani, Rajesh]

I think I don't know what is straight!


Perhaps is a direction of space apprehended visually most readily, as we 
struggle to apprehend and follow it tactually and auditorily.

So blind people are hardly straight!
Smile.


सादर / With thanks & Regards
राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani
सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM
बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU
भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India
नागपुर Nagpur

0712 2806846

President
VIBEWA
Co-Moderator
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A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and laughter.


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
mukesh jain
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 1:58 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] article of interest This Small Device developed in India Will 
Help Blind People Echolocate

hello aruni sir,
Well,  this is very interesting question asked by you as I do face
this problem to walk in a  straight line dispite holding walking cane.
Hence, I practice to compensate these difficulties with the help of
any assistive devices such as, walking  cane, aussion, surrounding
noice, balancing my body to prevent misdirections. Due to these
inefficiency, I happen to fall on railway tracks on mumbai suburban
railways just to share my helplessness if do not have the good
mobility skills especially outdoor.  Hence, can not comment upon the
outdoor mobility much as I feel that even you have any assistive
device with you, you ought to have the body controlled to move in a
direction you desire for instance, your sense to catch the
surroundings and your physical response such as, when you intend to
walk straight, capture the side surroundings  with  your Perceive by a
physical sensation, e.g., coming from the skin or muscles. As I feel
that this should happen by  Detecting  some circumstance or entity
automatically. So in my personal opinion, if you are trying to
persuade  the habbit of walking straight with this gadget alone, then
I would surely not recommend. Yes, as I mentioned, it can surely help
you identify the objects in the direction you are moving and which
fall in to your way in front. I am greatly benifiting to move around
in my office, home to locate the objects mentioned in my earlier mail.

So do get back if you have any further doubts.
These are my personal experience and may not necessarily be adhere to
the universal guidelines of mobility.



On 12/12/15, Vispi Mirza  wrote:
> On 12/12/15, Aaruni Sharma  wrote:
>> Hi Mukesh, Do you get the feedback from the surroundings or only in the
>> direction you are moving. Can it help in walking in a straight line?
>>
>> On 8 December 2015 at 12:21, mukesh jain  wrote:
>>
>>> AUSION is an innovative electronic mobility and travel aid for the
>>> visually impaired. Based on the principle of echolocation, AUSION
>>> enables me to
>>> move around indoors and outdoors with confidence and least assistance.
>>> AUSION basically acquires information about the environment,
>>> especially objects and obstacles
>>> and translates them into sounds and tactile information that can be
>>> heard and felt. The interpretations of these audible and tactile
>>> feedbacks enable the
>>> virtual recreation of the environment. AUSION is compact, handheld,
>>> maneuverable, non-intrusive device. This offers a greater freedom of
>>> movement to me
>>> and helps detect overhanging obstacles at the chest, shoulder and head
>>> levels. I specially benefited it lot in indore when I am at home if I
>>> have to locate the objects like cup plates on the table, when visiting
>>> any  office first time to locate the counters, alerts for reaching
>>> near stares, sometimes if I have to locate dustbin to throw garbage to
>>> avoid touching with my walking cane or bare hands, to get alertss for
>>> polls on the road which sometimes are below the height of the knee to
>>> bar the entry of small vehicles and animals within the premises, etc
>>> and lot more. Indeed, this device helping me lot. So worth
>>> considering. If you want to learn nore about it, visit
>>>   www.innohub.co.in
>>>
>>> or send the email to
>>> i...@innohub.co.in
>>>
>>> you can also call Mr. Deshpande of InnovationHub Technologies,
>>> private limited, Bangalore on mobile no. 09886833210
>>>
>>> get back again in case of any further doubts.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/8/15, Selva Kumar  wrote:
>>> > Hi vidya,
>>> >
>>> > Where we can get training for using device? can you give me full
>>> > address in bangalore, and what is the cost?
>>> >
>>> > On 9/16/15, sazid shaik  wrote:
>>> >> what is the cost?
>>> >>
>>> >> On 9/16/15, Vidhya Y  wrote:
>>> >>> this device???
>>> >>> I have started using it since 2 weeks.
>>> >>> it's interesting.
>>> >>> it needs some practice though.
>>> >>> I am able to walk without a cane 

Re: [AI] Girls and Women with Disabilities: share your ways of grooming and tasks like make-up

[Asudani, Rajesh]

Well, I don't think it is strange.
Why  blind girls' grooming and accessibility thereof should be strictly a 
private affair, I fail to understand!

I also fail to understand how and why blind girls follow visual standards of 
grooming readily and with zeal, as if it is their lived experience!


सादर / With thanks & Regards
राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani
सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM
बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU
भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India
नागपुर Nagpur

0712 2806846

President
VIBEWA
Co-Moderator
VIB-India

A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and laughter.


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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Preeti Monga
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2015 10:20 AM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Girls and Women with Disabilities: share your ways of 
grooming and tasks like make-up

Dear Amar,

This is a very strange mail. I am a little confused on why you wish to have
this topic discussed on mail? I doubt we want to talk about such personal
things on e mail. If there are any queries, you can always call me and I can
give you information as to what is it that you actually need. Do let me know
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-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Amar Jain
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2015 12:33 PM
To: accessindia
Cc: Preeti Monga
Subject: [AI] Girls and Women with Disabilities: share your ways of grooming
and tasks like make-up

Dear Female members of the list (could potentially involve married
male partners too if they have cared to be aware),

I am working on something for my legal sector specifically, which
involves training people with visual impairment or total blindness on
personality, grooming, both professionally and for situations like
party etc. Although a healthy discussion on this topic can help many
people who are new too this field or who have not openly sought
solution for something of this kind, which is a part of any occasion
in any female's life, but if someone is not open to share the thoughts
on this threat, then an e-mail or a phone call (if you know me and are
comfortable to discuss), will be greatly appreciated.

Before I put forward my questions, let me also tell you that I just
have general awareness of these aspects which relates to a female's
grooming, from the very little experience which I have observed from
looking at my mom. So anything which is additionally useful to know
from a disability aspect, is more than welcome.

1. Make-up: how do you figure out if the right amount of lipstick,
eye-liner, amazingly smelling nail polish, and other such things have
been applied? How do you deal with situations where it has been
over-applied or some coloring aspects need to be taken care? (I know
the question is not well framed for lack of my knowledge, but any
inputs)?

2. Designs for eyebrows, upper-lips, and whatever that small small
cutting hairs from sides is called? Third party reliance is the
solution?

3. Making things like ponytails? Are they independently doable?

4. Any other potential challenges (strictly restricted to grooming),
and solutions?

5. Any equipment to enhance accessibility on this front?

6. Any limitations?

7. If there are trainers, then any practical tips they can share with
me?  Experiences and method of doing things may differ, but right
techniques and tips if any?

8. Has any NGO ever conducted workshop if so, any recordings?

One special request to Delhi people, please shine in here, nobody can
be better at it than you! If there are aspects which relate to it but
go beyond my scope of training, then also I would care to know just
for sake of my own knowledge because I am absolutely unaware about
this area.

Greatful if people can openly share their views.

Regards,
Amar Jain



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Re: [AI] article of interest This Small Device developed in India Will Help Blind People Echolocate

[mukesh jain]

hello aruni sir,
Well,  this is very interesting question asked by you as I do face
this problem to walk in a  straight line dispite holding walking cane.
Hence, I practice to compensate these difficulties with the help of
any assistive devices such as, walking  cane, aussion, surrounding
noice, balancing my body to prevent misdirections. Due to these
inefficiency, I happen to fall on railway tracks on mumbai suburban
railways just to share my helplessness if do not have the good
mobility skills especially outdoor.  Hence, can not comment upon the
outdoor mobility much as I feel that even you have any assistive
device with you, you ought to have the body controlled to move in a
direction you desire for instance, your sense to catch the
surroundings and your physical response such as, when you intend to
walk straight, capture the side surroundings  with  your Perceive by a
physical sensation, e.g., coming from the skin or muscles. As I feel
that this should happen by  Detecting  some circumstance or entity
automatically. So in my personal opinion, if you are trying to
persuade  the habbit of walking straight with this gadget alone, then
I would surely not recommend. Yes, as I mentioned, it can surely help
you identify the objects in the direction you are moving and which
fall in to your way in front. I am greatly benifiting to move around
in my office, home to locate the objects mentioned in my earlier mail.

So do get back if you have any further doubts.
These are my personal experience and may not necessarily be adhere to
the universal guidelines of mobility.



On 12/12/15, Vispi Mirza  wrote:
> On 12/12/15, Aaruni Sharma  wrote:
>> Hi Mukesh, Do you get the feedback from the surroundings or only in the
>> direction you are moving. Can it help in walking in a straight line?
>>
>> On 8 December 2015 at 12:21, mukesh jain  wrote:
>>
>>> AUSION is an innovative electronic mobility and travel aid for the
>>> visually impaired. Based on the principle of echolocation, AUSION
>>> enables me to
>>> move around indoors and outdoors with confidence and least assistance.
>>> AUSION basically acquires information about the environment,
>>> especially objects and obstacles
>>> and translates them into sounds and tactile information that can be
>>> heard and felt. The interpretations of these audible and tactile
>>> feedbacks enable the
>>> virtual recreation of the environment. AUSION is compact, handheld,
>>> maneuverable, non-intrusive device. This offers a greater freedom of
>>> movement to me
>>> and helps detect overhanging obstacles at the chest, shoulder and head
>>> levels. I specially benefited it lot in indore when I am at home if I
>>> have to locate the objects like cup plates on the table, when visiting
>>> any  office first time to locate the counters, alerts for reaching
>>> near stares, sometimes if I have to locate dustbin to throw garbage to
>>> avoid touching with my walking cane or bare hands, to get alertss for
>>> polls on the road which sometimes are below the height of the knee to
>>> bar the entry of small vehicles and animals within the premises, etc
>>> and lot more. Indeed, this device helping me lot. So worth
>>> considering. If you want to learn nore about it, visit
>>>   www.innohub.co.in
>>>
>>> or send the email to
>>> i...@innohub.co.in
>>>
>>> you can also call Mr. Deshpande of InnovationHub Technologies,
>>> private limited, Bangalore on mobile no. 09886833210
>>>
>>> get back again in case of any further doubts.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/8/15, Selva Kumar  wrote:
>>> > Hi vidya,
>>> >
>>> > Where we can get training for using device? can you give me full
>>> > address in bangalore, and what is the cost?
>>> >
>>> > On 9/16/15, sazid shaik  wrote:
>>> >> what is the cost?
>>> >>
>>> >> On 9/16/15, Vidhya Y  wrote:
>>> >>> this device???
>>> >>> I have started using it since 2 weeks.
>>> >>> it's interesting.
>>> >>> it needs some practice though.
>>> >>> I am able to walk without a cane except for steps.
>>> >>> I still have to figure how to identify steps.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On 9/16/15, Tony Kurian  wrote:
>>>  hi all,
>>>  anyone here used this device? experience please.
>>> 
>>> http://www.techtimes.com/articles/70373/20150720/small-device-will-help-blind-people-echolocate.htm
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [AI] Paytm

[Sheik Mohammedali]

Hi Mukesh!
indeed you are right but that m.paytm.com does not work at least in latest 
browsers such as firefox and internet explorer.  well, coming to make it 
accessible there is an add-on for mozilla firefox "user agent" which can 
turn your browser in to mobile browser where you can open all sites in a 
mobile friendly environment.  in the earlier days in fact, youtube and and 
paytm were opening by default when we input m.site.com but now apart from 
facebook no site will be opened in the mobile environment.
apart from this paytm you can get benefited from the youtube if you install 
real player which streams video in the mobile quality.  Raju I will reach 
you offline mate.



- Original Message - 
From: "mukesh jain" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled." 

Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 1:05 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Paytm



hello,
step by step
paytm is fully accessible from the pc and mobile. if you face the
difficulties in using paytm from pc then simply point your browser to:
m.paytm.com

login with your details and you are ready to go with your favorite 
shopping.




On 12/16/15, raaju  wrote:

Hello shiek sir, please tell me step by step how one can make paytm
completely accessible on pc? My id is bidh...@gmail.com or you simply can
whatsapp me, its 09733236784 (airtel) waiting your answer

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Behalf

Of sheik mohammedali
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 10:17 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerning

the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Paytm

those who wish to make it accessible on PC let me know there is a way to
make it completely accessible.


Sent from my iPhone


On 15-Dec-2015, at 9:15 PM, akshun mahajan 

wrote:


sir it is not but it is accessible on phone and with app.


On 12/15/15, George Abraham  wrote:
Friends,



Just want to know if PayTM is accessible?



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Re: [AI] FYI: 'Disabled rights Bill to be put before cabinet in a day or two'

[avinash shahi]

Many thanks Mam for pointing to the RCI guidelines for media reporting
about disability issues. I made a quick visit to their website and
found
block quote
With a view to sensitize media about various disability laws and
creating awareness about disability issues, a sensitization programme
on Disability for Media was organized on February 9, 2009 at Guwahati.
35 Participants from media, NGOs and persons with disabilities took
part.
http://www.rehabcouncil.nic.in/forms/list.aspx?id=31
 block quot end
However no talk of any such guidelines.
On 12/15/15, Sruti disAbility Rights Centre  wrote:
> Avinash,
>
> This is to rectify your statement that there is no guideline for media in
> India. Quite some time ago, I cannot remember the year at this moment,
> Rehabilitation Council of India published a "Media Style Guide" which was
> available free of cost from their office and was also there in their
> website. But I do not think there was much discussions on this around then
> as research/discussions/debates which are important for the sector to grow,
> was much less those days.. I know about it as we used it for our first
> media studies and I still have a print copy of the same.
>
> Regards
> Shampa
>
> On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 3:18 PM, avinash shahi 
> wrote:
>
>> No, I think sustained discussion on the 'divyang' is warranted in
>> India. The prime Minister needs to make us understand the rationale
>> behind the usage of 'divyang'. If I'm not wrong the usage
>> 'differently-abled' was first used by an US atlantic magazine in 1983
>> and it was resisted in US but this usage acquired prominence in the
>> third-world countries. The media play an important role in
>> mainstreaming disability terminologies in the popular culture; Indian
>> media is also equally responsible for non-responsible reporting of
>> disability usage. There is a handbook published by Chicago University
>> about guidelines for media on disability reportage however we have
>> nothing of such sort in India. Indian mythological texts depicted
>> disabled people as sinners who committed crimes in their previous
>> birth. However if the prime minister things we are 'divyang' then its
>> a great departure from the past. Therefore it is imperative for Mr
>> Modi to enlighten us why he things we are 'divyang'. Lets not discuss
>> issues abstractly, lets ask questions and nurture a culture of
>> engaging substantially with the burning issues of the day. Why only
>> disabled people are 'specially-abled' why not Mr Modi who's charisma
>> led to BJP's thumping majority at the Centre. If I hhappen to meet
>> Modi anytime soon I'd ask him why he things we are 'divyang'.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/15/15, Avichal Bhatnagar  wrote:
>> > The biggest problem is that people are targeting pm on his suggestion
>> > of divyang, which may divert the attention from the main issue.
>> > Yes, I also criticize the centre for not bringing sensible guidelines,
>> > but making a mountain out of a molehill will lead us nowhere.
>> > Any further discussion on this issue will be like the opposition's
>> > hungama on non-existent issues in rajya sabha!
>> >
>> >
>> > On 12/15/15, bala9119  wrote:
>> >> Let me tell you how it stopped the development. while the PM is keen
>> >> to call the disabled as Divyang, he and his colleagues failed to know
>> >> the trend in conducting exams for the disabled. if you have doubt,
>> >> read the RRB's ridiculous scribe guidelines. moreover, while the PM is
>> >> keen to have a feeling for the disabled as "divine body", he and his
>> >> government failed to recognize the importance of CCPD. "when the blind
>> >> has the blind feeling on the sighted, that's the foremost drawback of
>> >> the community." congratulations for being one of the drawbacks.
>> >> cheers.
>> >> On 12/14/15, Avichal Bhatnagar  wrote:
>> >>> How does calling the disabled as divinely bodied stop their
>> development?
>> >>> Look at the feeling, not the word.
>> >>>
>> >>> On 12/11/15, bala9119  wrote:
>>  Where is development? calling the disabled as people with divine body
>>  means we are developed? good.
>>  cheers.
>>  On 12/11/15, Avichal Bhatnagar  wrote:
>> > Yes, so that the disabled get only their statues erected instead of
>> > development.
>> >
>> > On 12/11/15, bala9119  wrote:
>> >> Let the disabled have Kanshiram or Mayavati but not another
>> >> Narendra
>> >> Modi! only one is enough to blindfold the population.
>> >> cheers.
>> >> On 12/11/15, avinash shahi  wrote:
>> >>> Someone was suggesting an analogy between MK Gandhi's 'harijan'
>> >>> and
>> >>> Modi's 'divyang'! So Gandhi had special love for 'harijan' and our
>> PM
>> >>> has for 'divyang'. Perhaps Disability sector will soon 

Re: [AI] Girls and Women with Disabilities: share your ways of grooming and tasks like make-up

[avinash shahi]

Your mail generated an interest in me to look for beauty-parlour
runned by blind women in the country or in abroad.  However I found no
such centres in India. By the way Centre for Blind women in Hauz Khas
Delhi once conducted a workshop along with famous beauty magnet
Shahnas Hussain. You can take more details from Shalini Khanna. If
blind people can own a restaurant in Kathmandu and fully runn with all
blind waitors and chef, time is not far we will have
beauty-saloons/parlours owned and runned by blind girls and boys. And
what I found more interesting out of your query is that a legal firm
is keen to explore ways to groom one's body personality. I further
wonder why you have excluded the blind men from the survey? Aren't
they so obsessed about how they look and apply themselves in the
public?





On 12/14/15, Amar Jain  wrote:
> Dear Female members of the list (could potentially involve married
> male partners too if they have cared to be aware),
>
> I am working on something for my legal sector specifically, which
> involves training people with visual impairment or total blindness on
> personality, grooming, both professionally and for situations like
> party etc. Although a healthy discussion on this topic can help many
> people who are new too this field or who have not openly sought
> solution for something of this kind, which is a part of any occasion
> in any female's life, but if someone is not open to share the thoughts
> on this threat, then an e-mail or a phone call (if you know me and are
> comfortable to discuss), will be greatly appreciated.
>
> Before I put forward my questions, let me also tell you that I just
> have general awareness of these aspects which relates to a female's
> grooming, from the very little experience which I have observed from
> looking at my mom. So anything which is additionally useful to know
> from a disability aspect, is more than welcome.
>
> 1. Make-up: how do you figure out if the right amount of lipstick,
> eye-liner, amazingly smelling nail polish, and other such things have
> been applied? How do you deal with situations where it has been
> over-applied or some coloring aspects need to be taken care? (I know
> the question is not well framed for lack of my knowledge, but any
> inputs)?
>
> 2. Designs for eyebrows, upper-lips, and whatever that small small
> cutting hairs from sides is called? Third party reliance is the
> solution?
>
> 3. Making things like ponytails? Are they independently doable?
>
> 4. Any other potential challenges (strictly restricted to grooming),
> and solutions?
>
> 5. Any equipment to enhance accessibility on this front?
>
> 6. Any limitations?
>
> 7. If there are trainers, then any practical tips they can share with
> me?  Experiences and method of doing things may differ, but right
> techniques and tips if any?
>
> 8. Has any NGO ever conducted workshop if so, any recordings?
>
> One special request to Delhi people, please shine in here, nobody can
> be better at it than you! If there are aspects which relate to it but
> go beyond my scope of training, then also I would care to know just
> for sake of my own knowledge because I am absolutely unaware about
> this area.
>
> Greatful if people can openly share their views.
>
> Regards,
> Amar Jain
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Re: [AI] Girls and Women with Disabilities: share your ways of grooming and tasks like make-up

[Amar Jain]

Hi Mam,

I wanted to discuss this over e-mail so that (i) I could take notes
from people's responses so that I can capture that in my notes for the
workshop I'm preparing for; and (ii) I was hoping that you can share
your views either on the list or personally given that you are someone
who is very helpful and guiding person.

Nevertheless, if you are not comfortable discussing these personal
things on e-mails, it's totally understandable. Don't take it too
hard, just thought you can be one of those who could potentially
guide.

Regards,
Amar Jain



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