Re: [AI] Fwd: Request for Adopting Accessibility in Paytm App

[rajinder Sehgal]

yess its much accessible on android but not accessible on web using jaws.
so i am forced to use freecharge.in on web it is accessible on web and app.

On 12/6/16, Ishwar Verma  wrote:
> hi friends! paytm android app is fully accessable with talkback. and I
> don't know about voice over and brouzer.
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Re: [AI] High importance: Request for scribe

[Mujeeb Rahman]

Criteria for the scribe would be a graduate in any streame.

On 12/9/16, Mujeeb Rahman  wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> Good Morning!
>
> I’ve been looking for a substitute for my scribe as the person who has
> committed is having an inconvenience on the exam date. It’s on Monday,
> 12th Dec and at Thrissur, Kerala.
>
> Truly, it would be of immense help, if any of you can help me on this
> as I’m really struggling to find someone at the last moment.
>
> --
> Best,
>
> MRS
> M +91 9446483337
> "It's better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what
> you are not". - Unknown
>
> Sent from my iPad
>


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you are not". - Unknown

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[AI] High importance: Request for scribe

[Mujeeb Rahman]

Dear All,

Good Morning!

I’ve been looking for a substitute for my scribe as the person who has
committed is having an inconvenience on the exam date. It’s on Monday,
12th Dec and at Thrissur, Kerala.

Truly, it would be of immense help, if any of you can help me on this
as I’m really struggling to find someone at the last moment.

-- 
Best,

MRS
M +91 9446483337
"It's better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what
you are not". - Unknown

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Re: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making online payments is tough call

[Ajay Minocha]

Hi I can try recording a basic podcast and then uploading it somewhere for 
the benefit of group members typing along mail may not be possible for me 
with all the steps in detail


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On December 9, 2016 10:11:53 AM Chandrashekhar Kulkarni 
 wrote:



Dear List Members,
Of course it is a good initiative to spare his or her own time and to
help someone. But I would appreciate if members among us can send
mails on the list basic information regarding accessibility of
different UPI apps from VI point of view, basic steps to set up an app
and precautionary measures.
Sincerely,
C. B. Kulkarni

On 08/12/2016, Payal Kapoor  wrote:

you have your first student in me Ajay. does Sunday work for you?

On 12/8/16, Ajay Minocha  wrote:

Hi all,

Happy to guide on BOB, HDFC, SBI and paytm

Regards,
Ajay

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On December 8, 2016 3:54:49 PM "bhawani shankar verma"
 wrote:


agreed, accessible machines with speech technology is required. UPI
interface is recently launched utility and it will get popularity soon as
if
the sender and recipient creates vertual address, they need not to
disclose
the account details. it will be more safe and secure as the disability is
concerned.



-Original Message-
From: Zoher Kheriwala
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 11:21 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making online
payments is tough call

Dear Ajai,
Generating a receipt by POS machine does not confirm the receipt of
payment. Sometimes amount is deducted from customers account but
transaction gets failed due to server problem. In above case the POS
machine generates transaction failed receipt which we have to give to
customer as a proof of unsuccessful transaction. We experience same
thing on online payment as amount get deducted from our account but
the online store does not receive the payment. This is very common
with IRCTC web site.
Bhawani sir, in today’s competitive market we have to give that
payment options which are comfortable to customer, swiping the card is
commonly accepted method of cashless transaction.
.

On 12/8/16, bhawani shankar verma  wrote:

they can give the customer his IFSC code and account number. the
customer
can transfer money instantly through UPI. as you quoted a small business
owner, the transfer limit of Rs.1/- UPI limit should suffice the
matter.

- Original Message -
From: "Zoher Kheriwala" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning
the disabled." 
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 7:45 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making
online
payments is tough call



Hi friends,
till now this topic is discussed only from the point of view of blind
customer or amount sender only. What about the small business runner
who suffers from blindness?
the swipe machine or POS machine installed in there shop is not at all
accessible. Even you cant memorize the steps to accept the payment as
the software of these machines are periodically updated due to
security reasons, which makes the accepting process different with
each update. Moreover some times due to card failure or network
failure a blind shop owner does not come to know that whether the
payment received successfully or not.

On 12/7/16, bhawani shankar verma  wrote:

i suggest to use UPI app of your bank in particular. in my case it is
pnb
UPI app and is 90% accessible. Some buttons are to be labled manually.
you
need not to register yourself for internet banking etc. you can
register
it
through your linked mobile number, and debit card with a particular
account.
the maximum limit is rs.1/- through this mode.

- Original Message -
From: "George Abraham" 
To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning
the disabled.'" 
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making
online
payments is tough call



Rightly said! I see it as an opportunity  for us to push for access
to
all

financial services including all websites, apps etc.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf Of Leikhu Laishram Leingakpa
Sent: 07 December 2016 14:03
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning

the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making
online
payments is tough call

Dear all
Of course every blind or visually impaired are not literate or tech
sabby. This is the case with the non-disabled people too. Moreover
cashless is not going to happen overnight. But there are many among
us
who are familiar with cashless system and can use without any
difficulty. So the debate should be how to make the system accessible
and how to remove the administrative bottlenec

Re: [AI] Amendments to RPD Bill Moved by CPI(M) MPs

[pankaj Singh kushwaha]

thats great job done by N.P.RD. except these amendments, we should
look into the financial rights of persons with disabilities. as  it is
suggested by uncrpd that that should be supported decision rather than
subsituded decision. thanks On 12/8/16, National Platform For The
Rights of the Disabled  wrote:
> *Amendments to the  Rights of Persons with Disabilities Bill, 2014 Moved by
> Shri K K Ragesh & Shri C.P. Narayanan, CPI(M) Members of the Rajya Sabha*
>
>
>
> Page 4, line 18 & 19, for the words "No person with disability shall be
> discriminated on the ground of disability, unless it is shown that the
> impugned act or omission is appropriate to achieve a legitimate aim"  be
> substituted with "No person with disability shall be discriminated on the
> grounds of disability".
>
> Page 10, for lines 3 to 6, the following be substituted, namely:
>
> “The appropriate Government shall formulate necessary schemes and
> programmes to safeguard and promote the right of persons with disabilities
> for adequate standard of living to enable them to live independently or in
> the community:”
>
> Page 12, for lines 42 to 45 the following be substituted, namely:
>
> "Every appropriate government shall appoint in every government
> establishment, not less than five per cent of the total number of vacancies
> in the cadre strength with persons with benchmark disabilities of which, on
> per cent each shall be reserved for persons with benchmark disabilities
> under clauses (a), (b), (c), (d) and (e) respectively.
>
>
>
> Page 13, for lines 8 to 14, the following be substituted, namely:
>
> "Provided that the appropriate government shall issue necessary
> instructions in this regard also covering reservation in promotions in all
> groups of posts for employees with benchmark disabilities immediately on
> this Act coming into force.
>
> Provided further that the appropriate government, in consultation with the
> National Commission or the State Commission, as the case may be, having
> regard to the type of work carried out in any government establishment by
> notification and subject to such conditions, if any, as may be specified in
> such notifications exempt any Government establishment from the provisions
> of this section."
>
> Page 9, Lines 8 to 10, the following to be substituted, namely:
>
> "Provided that the appropriate government, in consultation with the
> National Commission or the State Commission, as the case may be, having
> regard to the type of work carried out in any government establishment by
> notification and subject to such conditions, if any, as may be specified in
> such notifications exempt any Government establishment from the provisions
> of this section."
>
> Page 35, line 42 to 44, the following to be substituted, namely:
>
> "The provisions of this Act are in addition to and not in derogation of the
> provisions of the Persons with Disabilities (Equal Opportunity Protection
> of Rights  and Full Participation) Act, 1995, existing rules,  regulations,
> executive instructions and orders issued from time to time for the benefit
> of persons with disabilities"
>
>
> There are a few more amendments, but we have not been able to get the copy
> that has been circulated
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Re: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making online payments is tough call

[Chandrashekhar Kulkarni]

Dear List Members,
Of course it is a good initiative to spare his or her own time and to
help someone. But I would appreciate if members among us can send
mails on the list basic information regarding accessibility of
different UPI apps from VI point of view, basic steps to set up an app
and precautionary measures.
Sincerely,
C. B. Kulkarni

On 08/12/2016, Payal Kapoor  wrote:
> you have your first student in me Ajay. does Sunday work for you?
>
> On 12/8/16, Ajay Minocha  wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Happy to guide on BOB, HDFC, SBI and paytm
>>
>> Regards,
>> Ajay
>>
>> Sent with AquaMail for Android
>> http://www.aqua-mail.com
>>
>>
>> On December 8, 2016 3:54:49 PM "bhawani shankar verma"
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> agreed, accessible machines with speech technology is required. UPI
>>> interface is recently launched utility and it will get popularity soon as
>>> if
>>> the sender and recipient creates vertual address, they need not to
>>> disclose
>>> the account details. it will be more safe and secure as the disability is
>>> concerned.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Zoher Kheriwala
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 11:21 AM
>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerning
>>> the disabled.
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making online
>>> payments is tough call
>>>
>>> Dear Ajai,
>>> Generating a receipt by POS machine does not confirm the receipt of
>>> payment. Sometimes amount is deducted from customers account but
>>> transaction gets failed due to server problem. In above case the POS
>>> machine generates transaction failed receipt which we have to give to
>>> customer as a proof of unsuccessful transaction. We experience same
>>> thing on online payment as amount get deducted from our account but
>>> the online store does not receive the payment. This is very common
>>> with IRCTC web site.
>>> Bhawani sir, in today’s competitive market we have to give that
>>> payment options which are comfortable to customer, swiping the card is
>>> commonly accepted method of cashless transaction.
>>> .
>>>
>>> On 12/8/16, bhawani shankar verma  wrote:
 they can give the customer his IFSC code and account number. the
 customer
 can transfer money instantly through UPI. as you quoted a small business
 owner, the transfer limit of Rs.1/- UPI limit should suffice the
 matter.

 - Original Message -
 From: "Zoher Kheriwala" 
 To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerning
 the disabled." 
 Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 7:45 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making
 online
 payments is tough call


> Hi friends,
> till now this topic is discussed only from the point of view of blind
> customer or amount sender only. What about the small business runner
> who suffers from blindness?
> the swipe machine or POS machine installed in there shop is not at all
> accessible. Even you cant memorize the steps to accept the payment as
> the software of these machines are periodically updated due to
> security reasons, which makes the accepting process different with
> each update. Moreover some times due to card failure or network
> failure a blind shop owner does not come to know that whether the
> payment received successfully or not.
>
> On 12/7/16, bhawani shankar verma  wrote:
>> i suggest to use UPI app of your bank in particular. in my case it is
>> pnb
>> UPI app and is 90% accessible. Some buttons are to be labled manually.
>> you
>> need not to register yourself for internet banking etc. you can
>> register
>> it
>> through your linked mobile number, and debit card with a particular
>> account.
>> the maximum limit is rs.1/- through this mode.
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "George Abraham" 
>> To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning
>> the disabled.'" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 3:36 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making
>> online
>> payments is tough call
>>
>>
>>> Rightly said! I see it as an opportunity  for us to push for access
>>> to
>>> all
>>>
>>> financial services including all websites, apps etc.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>>> Behalf Of Leikhu Laishram Leingakpa
>>> Sent: 07 December 2016 14:03
>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerning
>>>
>>> the disabled.
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making
>>> online
>>> payments is tough call
>>>
>>> Dear all
>>> Of course every blind or visually impaired are not literate o

Re: [AI] App for iOS like the eye-D

[George Abraham]

What is Eye D?

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Prashant Verma 
Sent: 09 December 2016 07:42
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: [AI] App for iOS like the eye-D

This is free and does almost the same thing.

http://www.fredshead.info/2016/12/identifi-object-recognition-for.html 

 

 

 


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[AI] App for iOS like the eye-D

[Prashant Verma]

This is free and does almost the same thing.

http://www.fredshead.info/2016/12/identifi-object-recognition-for.html 

 

 

 


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[AI] YOUTH 4 JOBS a hyderabad based volentary organization is offering several courses and trainning to visually impaired students Regarding:

[SHANKAR DIGUVAPALLI]

Youth 4 jobs is offering the following courses and training programs
for visually impaired persons. the courses are android mobile usage
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exams like groups bank exams etc mobility training the courses will be
offered in hyderabad currently no hostel facility is available. for
more details please contact Mr sivasuresh mobile no 9550437181 e mail
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Re: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making online payments is tough call

[Ajay Minocha]

Yes Ma'am,

Do contact on my number given in the signature below this email.

Regards,
Ajay

On 12/8/16, Payal Kapoor  wrote:
> you have your first student in me Ajay. does Sunday work for you?
>
> On 12/8/16, Ajay Minocha  wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Happy to guide on BOB, HDFC, SBI and paytm
>>
>> Regards,
>> Ajay
>>
>> Sent with AquaMail for Android
>> http://www.aqua-mail.com
>>
>>
>> On December 8, 2016 3:54:49 PM "bhawani shankar verma"
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> agreed, accessible machines with speech technology is required. UPI
>>> interface is recently launched utility and it will get popularity soon as
>>> if
>>> the sender and recipient creates vertual address, they need not to
>>> disclose
>>> the account details. it will be more safe and secure as the disability is
>>> concerned.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Zoher Kheriwala
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 11:21 AM
>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerning
>>> the disabled.
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making online
>>> payments is tough call
>>>
>>> Dear Ajai,
>>> Generating a receipt by POS machine does not confirm the receipt of
>>> payment. Sometimes amount is deducted from customers account but
>>> transaction gets failed due to server problem. In above case the POS
>>> machine generates transaction failed receipt which we have to give to
>>> customer as a proof of unsuccessful transaction. We experience same
>>> thing on online payment as amount get deducted from our account but
>>> the online store does not receive the payment. This is very common
>>> with IRCTC web site.
>>> Bhawani sir, in today’s competitive market we have to give that
>>> payment options which are comfortable to customer, swiping the card is
>>> commonly accepted method of cashless transaction.
>>> .
>>>
>>> On 12/8/16, bhawani shankar verma  wrote:
 they can give the customer his IFSC code and account number. the
 customer
 can transfer money instantly through UPI. as you quoted a small business
 owner, the transfer limit of Rs.1/- UPI limit should suffice the
 matter.

 - Original Message -
 From: "Zoher Kheriwala" 
 To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerning
 the disabled." 
 Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 7:45 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making
 online
 payments is tough call


> Hi friends,
> till now this topic is discussed only from the point of view of blind
> customer or amount sender only. What about the small business runner
> who suffers from blindness?
> the swipe machine or POS machine installed in there shop is not at all
> accessible. Even you cant memorize the steps to accept the payment as
> the software of these machines are periodically updated due to
> security reasons, which makes the accepting process different with
> each update. Moreover some times due to card failure or network
> failure a blind shop owner does not come to know that whether the
> payment received successfully or not.
>
> On 12/7/16, bhawani shankar verma  wrote:
>> i suggest to use UPI app of your bank in particular. in my case it is
>> pnb
>> UPI app and is 90% accessible. Some buttons are to be labled manually.
>> you
>> need not to register yourself for internet banking etc. you can
>> register
>> it
>> through your linked mobile number, and debit card with a particular
>> account.
>> the maximum limit is rs.1/- through this mode.
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "George Abraham" 
>> To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning
>> the disabled.'" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 3:36 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making
>> online
>> payments is tough call
>>
>>
>>> Rightly said! I see it as an opportunity  for us to push for access
>>> to
>>> all
>>>
>>> financial services including all websites, apps etc.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>>> Behalf Of Leikhu Laishram Leingakpa
>>> Sent: 07 December 2016 14:03
>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerning
>>>
>>> the disabled.
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making
>>> online
>>> payments is tough call
>>>
>>> Dear all
>>> Of course every blind or visually impaired are not literate or tech
>>> sabby. This is the case with the non-disabled people too. Moreover
>>> cashless is not going to happen overnight. But there are many among
>>> us
>>> who are familiar with cashless system and can use without any
>>> difficu

Re: [AI] Smart workarounds

[Vikas Kapoor]

Even after having updated Eye-D to 4.2 today itself, my problem persists as it 
was earlier!
  - Original Message - 
  From: Vikas Kapoor 
  To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled. 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 1:11 PM
  Subject: Re: [AI] Smart workarounds


  I don't think the Play Store will ever give an older version of WhatsAp? Even 
today, it isn't showing any update to the app! My current version of whatsapp 
is 2.16.352, update date, November 11. And the version of Eye-D is 3.4.3, 
update date, November 26.
- Original Message - 
From: Shaswat Jena 
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled. 
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 12:10 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Smart workarounds


Mujeeb,

The pro / paid version will support a large of languages including Indian
regional languages. We will be rolling out the pro version of the by the
end of Jan 1st week at a very nominal subscription fee.

Sinoj,

Glad that you found the app helpful, As mentioned earlier the advanced OCR
will have options to save, share and other features which will be included
in the paid / pro version of Eye-D app.

Vikas,

Thanks for bringing forward the issue. I would still say that there seems
to be some issue with your version of WhatsApp. We checked for the issue
with latest version of Eye-D and WhatsApp everything seems to work
flawlessly without any issue. We even checked this with both JPEG and PNG
files there was slight performance degrade for PNG images which will fix in
next updates.

Regards,
Shaswat

On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 9:27 AM, Vikas Kapoor  wrote:

> The problem is not with the printed documents as you are suggesting, the
> problem is with exporting the what sap images to be able to read them out.
> As I reported earlier, everything was fine, but once I performed a factory
> reset on my phone, the problem started coming in. I assume if I'd 
installed
> both these applications on my phone day before yesterday, the apps might 
be
> having the latest versions.
>   - Original Message -
>   From: Shaswat Jena
>   To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
> concerning the disabled.
>   Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2016 11:56 AM
>   Subject: Re: [AI] Smart workarounds
>
>
>   Hello All,
>
>   I'm Shaswat from Eye-D. I'm really sorry that some of your are not being
>   able to use the app. Please note that there was an similar issue with 
the
>   Facebook app which resulted in the failure of image sharing and
> processing
>   it externally earlier, so I would suggest you to update your Eye-D app
> and
>   WhatsApp as no such issue is being observed on our end.
>
>   Gufran / Vikas,
>
>   For better results results please try to hold your phone 15-20 cms above
>   the printed document for now. We will be rolling out major OCR and
> feature
>   upgrades gradually to improve your app experience.
>
>   Thank you Satguru for answering the queries :)
>
>   Please do let me know if you have any queries and suggestions.
>
>   Regards,
>   Shaswat
>
>   Eye-D 
>
>   https://in.linkedin.com/in/shaswatjena
>
>   National Award Winner (Best Innovators of 2016
>   )
>
>
>   On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 11:16 AM, Mujeeb Rahman  >
>   wrote:
>
>   > Super!!
>   >
>   > On 11/29/16, shankar shan  wrote:
>   > > 1. open WhatsApp.
>   > > 2. go to the chat from which you got the image.
>   > > 3. select the image by dubble tap and long press.
>   > > 4. click on share.
>   > > 5. click on image recagnation  eye-d app, and wait for the results
>   > > from the talkback.
>   > >
>   > > note: you need internet connection to use this service.
>   > >
>   > > yes, you can solve the captcha using this app, but, you need to work
>   > > around with it.
>   > >
>   > > here, guess work takes place.
>   > >
>   > > you cant expect perfect solution from this app.
>   > >
>   > > this is just my opinion.
>   > >
>   > >
>   > >
>   > >
>   > > On 11/29/16, Mujeeb Rahman  wrote:
>   > >> Whatsapp images too will be read! sounds amazing and interesting!!
>   > >> Request the steps..
>   > >>
>   > >> On 11/29/16, shankar shan  wrote:
>   > >>> exactly, and also, without sighted assistance,  you can read all
> the
>   > >>> information from the image  which you will get on WhatsApp and
> other
>   > >>> social networking sites.
>   > >>> currently, the app is supporting the default language, bbut,its 
not
>   > >>> supporting for othe

Re: [AI] Edelweiss Tokio Life Insurance insures Indian paralympian meddalists with Rs 1 crore life cover

[Amar Jain]

Any disability riders? Did you submit disability certificate along with 
proposal form?

Regards,
Amar Jain

Sent from my iPhone

> On 07-Dec-2016, at 7:42 PM, Hassim syed  wrote:
> 
> Hi friends,
> I have taken a term polocy worth 1 crore from Max Life.
> 
> With wishes.
> 
>> On 12/5/16, Vamshi. G  wrote:
>> One is from SBI life.  Will have to check with the other one.
>> 
>>> On 12/5/16, Mohit Gupta  wrote:
>>> hi vamshi
>>> from which insurance company your friends buy term policies?
>>> 
 On 12/4/16, Vamshi. G  wrote:
 Dear Mohit,
 
 There should not be something like insurance policies available for
 disabled.  Instead, it should be like available insurance policies,
 and non-discrimination for disabled in the same.  Recently, two of my
 friends could have Rs. 50 lakhs term policies without any
 discrimination.  So, it seems things are changing.  Still, common
 guidelines from IRDA as in the case of by RBI banking would be good.
 
 
> On 12/4/16, Amar Jain  wrote:
> Mohit, lets speak on phone so that I can explain you better? My cell
> no.
> is
> 9892622230.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 04-Dec-2016, at 3:40 PM, Mohit Gupta 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Dear amer
>> Do you know insurance policies available for disabled in india.
>> 
>>> On 12/1/16, Amar Jain  wrote:
>>> Thanks for sharing this, IRDAI has always come out with impractical
>>> proposals for people with disabilities. To add to this, the
>>> discriminatory
>>> underwriting policy of insurers.
>>> 
>>> Let me know if anyone else is interested to work on issues concerning
>>> insurance.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Amar Jain
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On 01-Dec-2016, at 1:12 PM, Akanksha Jain
 
 wrote:
 
 http://www.indiablooms.com/ibns_new/finance-details/6006/edelweiss-tokio-life-insurance-insures-indian-paralympic-medallists-with-rs-1-crore-life-cover.html
 
 
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[AI] Moderator: RE: Smart workarounds

[Kotian, H P]

All
This thread should have been ideally running on our Mobile list. However, 
considering its importance, I did not intervene so far.
Now, that it will be discussed all over again, I can't allow it. So, all are 
requested to carry this thread on the mobile list which is the correct place to 
discuss any mobile related applications.
Regards
Harish Kotian


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
rajendra dhurve
Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2016 5:06 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. 
Subject: Re: [AI] Smart workarounds

Hi Sashvat.. Will you please throw some more light give me clear picture that 
what u all friends are talking about?
What is I-D and how can I get on my Smartphone? can I read the immages messages 
on my what'sapp? what is the procedure to use it and from where I can get it? 
Does this app also supports immages of hindi text?
I'm frequently receiving the clicked pictures of the text, News and other 
immage data but Unfortunately I'm not able to read out with my Talkback on my 
phone!!
Please come up solution if you have.
Would be highly thankful.
Regards:
RD

On 12/7/16, Mujeeb Rahman  wrote:
> Nice to note. Yet keen to know Will  Malayalam be one of the 
> languages. Most often Malayalam is not even considered as an Indian 
> language. Hope its not the case..
>
> On 12/7/16, Shaswat Jena  wrote:
>> Mujeeb,
>>
>> The pro / paid version will support a large of languages including 
>> Indian regional languages. We will be rolling out the pro version of 
>> the by the end of Jan 1st week at a very nominal subscription fee.
>>
>> Sinoj,
>>
>> Glad that you found the app helpful, As mentioned earlier the 
>> advanced OCR will have options to save, share and other features 
>> which will be included in the paid / pro version of Eye-D app.
>>
>> Vikas,
>>
>> Thanks for bringing forward the issue. I would still say that there 
>> seems to be some issue with your version of WhatsApp. We checked for 
>> the issue with latest version of Eye-D and WhatsApp everything seems 
>> to work flawlessly without any issue. We even checked this with both 
>> JPEG and PNG files there was slight performance degrade for PNG 
>> images which will fix in next updates.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Shaswat
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 9:27 AM, Vikas Kapoor  wrote:
>>
>>> The problem is not with the printed documents as you are suggesting, 
>>> the problem is with exporting the what sap images to be able to read 
>>> them out.
>>> As I reported earlier, everything was fine, but once I performed a 
>>> factory reset on my phone, the problem started coming in. I assume 
>>> if I'd installed both these applications on my phone day before 
>>> yesterday, the apps might be having the latest versions.
>>>   - Original Message -
>>>   From: Shaswat Jena
>>>   To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
>>> concerning the disabled.
>>>   Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2016 11:56 AM
>>>   Subject: Re: [AI] Smart workarounds
>>>
>>>
>>>   Hello All,
>>>
>>>   I'm Shaswat from Eye-D. I'm really sorry that some of your are not 
>>> being
>>>   able to use the app. Please note that there was an similar issue 
>>> with the
>>>   Facebook app which resulted in the failure of image sharing and 
>>> processing
>>>   it externally earlier, so I would suggest you to update your Eye-D 
>>> app and
>>>   WhatsApp as no such issue is being observed on our end.
>>>
>>>   Gufran / Vikas,
>>>
>>>   For better results results please try to hold your phone 15-20 cms 
>>> above
>>>   the printed document for now. We will be rolling out major OCR and 
>>> feature
>>>   upgrades gradually to improve your app experience.
>>>
>>>   Thank you Satguru for answering the queries :)
>>>
>>>   Please do let me know if you have any queries and suggestions.
>>>
>>>   Regards,
>>>   Shaswat
>>>
>>>   Eye-D 
>>>
>>>   https://in.linkedin.com/in/shaswatjena
>>>
>>>   National Award Winner (Best Innovators of 2016
>>>   )
>>>
>>>
>>>   On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 11:16 AM, Mujeeb Rahman 
>>> >> >
>>>   wrote:
>>>
>>>   > Super!!
>>>   >
>>>   > On 11/29/16, shankar shan  wrote:
>>>   > > 1. open WhatsApp.
>>>   > > 2. go to the chat from which you got the image.
>>>   > > 3. select the image by dubble tap and long press.
>>>   > > 4. click on share.
>>>   > > 5. click on image recagnation  eye-d app, and wait for the results
>>>   > > from the talkback.
>>>   > >
>>>   > > note: you need internet connection to use this service.
>>>   > >
>>>   > > yes, you can solve the captcha using this app, but, you need 
>>> to work
>>>   > > around with it.
>>>   > >
>>>   > > here, guess work takes place.
>>>   > >
>>>   > > you cant expect perfect solution from this app.
>>>   > >
>>>   > > this is just my opinion.
>>>   > >
>>>   > >
>>>   > >
>>>   > >
>>>   > > On 11/29/16, Mu

Re: [AI] KB Focus moving out issue in Windows 10:

[Narendra Vg]

Hi Ajeesh,
Are you facing this problem while charging? If yes, the problem would
be with the charger. One of mine friend face same problem when he was
using laptop while charging.


On 12/7/16, Ajeesh Thomas  wrote:
> Hi All,
> Facing a  strange problem, kindly help,
> I am using Windows 10 with  JAWS 17 in HP Laptop , while working
> frequently   the focus is moving out   from the active Window, without
> any Keyboard /Mouse  command
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> For your kind information my mouse  I  have kept it disabled.
> How to resolve this issue? Could you Please help .
> Thanks in advance,
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Re: [AI] Smart workarounds

[rajendra dhurve]

Hi Sashvat.. Will you please throw some more light give me clear
picture that what u all friends are talking about?
What is I-D and how can I get on my Smartphone? can I read the immages
messages on my what'sapp? what is the procedure to use it and from
where I can get it? Does this app also supports immages of hindi text?
I'm frequently receiving the clicked pictures of the text, News and
other immage data but Unfortunately I'm not able to read out with my
Talkback on my phone!!
Please come up solution if you have.
Would be highly thankful.
Regards:
RD

On 12/7/16, Mujeeb Rahman  wrote:
> Nice to note. Yet keen to know Will  Malayalam be one of the
> languages. Most often Malayalam is not even considered as an Indian
> language. Hope its not the case..
>
> On 12/7/16, Shaswat Jena  wrote:
>> Mujeeb,
>>
>> The pro / paid version will support a large of languages including Indian
>> regional languages. We will be rolling out the pro version of the by the
>> end of Jan 1st week at a very nominal subscription fee.
>>
>> Sinoj,
>>
>> Glad that you found the app helpful, As mentioned earlier the advanced OCR
>> will have options to save, share and other features which will be included
>> in the paid / pro version of Eye-D app.
>>
>> Vikas,
>>
>> Thanks for bringing forward the issue. I would still say that there seems
>> to be some issue with your version of WhatsApp. We checked for the issue
>> with latest version of Eye-D and WhatsApp everything seems to work
>> flawlessly without any issue. We even checked this with both JPEG and PNG
>> files there was slight performance degrade for PNG images which will fix
>> in
>> next updates.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Shaswat
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 9:27 AM, Vikas Kapoor  wrote:
>>
>>> The problem is not with the printed documents as you are suggesting, the
>>> problem is with exporting the what sap images to be able to read them
>>> out.
>>> As I reported earlier, everything was fine, but once I performed a
>>> factory
>>> reset on my phone, the problem started coming in. I assume if I'd
>>> installed
>>> both these applications on my phone day before yesterday, the apps might
>>> be
>>> having the latest versions.
>>>   - Original Message -
>>>   From: Shaswat Jena
>>>   To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerning the disabled.
>>>   Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2016 11:56 AM
>>>   Subject: Re: [AI] Smart workarounds
>>>
>>>
>>>   Hello All,
>>>
>>>   I'm Shaswat from Eye-D. I'm really sorry that some of your are not
>>> being
>>>   able to use the app. Please note that there was an similar issue with
>>> the
>>>   Facebook app which resulted in the failure of image sharing and
>>> processing
>>>   it externally earlier, so I would suggest you to update your Eye-D app
>>> and
>>>   WhatsApp as no such issue is being observed on our end.
>>>
>>>   Gufran / Vikas,
>>>
>>>   For better results results please try to hold your phone 15-20 cms
>>> above
>>>   the printed document for now. We will be rolling out major OCR and
>>> feature
>>>   upgrades gradually to improve your app experience.
>>>
>>>   Thank you Satguru for answering the queries :)
>>>
>>>   Please do let me know if you have any queries and suggestions.
>>>
>>>   Regards,
>>>   Shaswat
>>>
>>>   Eye-D 
>>>
>>>   https://in.linkedin.com/in/shaswatjena
>>>
>>>   National Award Winner (Best Innovators of 2016
>>>   )
>>>
>>>
>>>   On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 11:16 AM, Mujeeb Rahman
>>> >> >
>>>   wrote:
>>>
>>>   > Super!!
>>>   >
>>>   > On 11/29/16, shankar shan  wrote:
>>>   > > 1. open WhatsApp.
>>>   > > 2. go to the chat from which you got the image.
>>>   > > 3. select the image by dubble tap and long press.
>>>   > > 4. click on share.
>>>   > > 5. click on image recagnation  eye-d app, and wait for the results
>>>   > > from the talkback.
>>>   > >
>>>   > > note: you need internet connection to use this service.
>>>   > >
>>>   > > yes, you can solve the captcha using this app, but, you need to
>>> work
>>>   > > around with it.
>>>   > >
>>>   > > here, guess work takes place.
>>>   > >
>>>   > > you cant expect perfect solution from this app.
>>>   > >
>>>   > > this is just my opinion.
>>>   > >
>>>   > >
>>>   > >
>>>   > >
>>>   > > On 11/29/16, Mujeeb Rahman  wrote:
>>>   > >> Whatsapp images too will be read! sounds amazing and interesting!!
>>>   > >> Request the steps..
>>>   > >>
>>>   > >> On 11/29/16, shankar shan  wrote:
>>>   > >>> exactly, and also, without sighted assistance,  you can read all
>>> the
>>>   > >>> information from the image  which you will get on WhatsApp and
>>> other
>>>   > >>> social networking sites.
>>>   > >>> currently, the app is supporting the default language, bbut,its
>>> not
>>>   > >>> supporting for other languages.
>>>   > >>>
>>>   > >>> if the person using Arabic language in there windows, it will be
>>> very
>>>   > >>> much trubble for them, hence, the ap

Re: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making online payments is tough call

[Payal Kapoor]

you have your first student in me Ajay. does Sunday work for you?

On 12/8/16, Ajay Minocha  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Happy to guide on BOB, HDFC, SBI and paytm
>
> Regards,
> Ajay
>
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>
>
> On December 8, 2016 3:54:49 PM "bhawani shankar verma"
>  wrote:
>
>> agreed, accessible machines with speech technology is required. UPI
>> interface is recently launched utility and it will get popularity soon as
>> if
>> the sender and recipient creates vertual address, they need not to
>> disclose
>> the account details. it will be more safe and secure as the disability is
>> concerned.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Zoher Kheriwala
>> Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 11:21 AM
>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
>> the disabled.
>> Subject: Re: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making online
>> payments is tough call
>>
>> Dear Ajai,
>> Generating a receipt by POS machine does not confirm the receipt of
>> payment. Sometimes amount is deducted from customers account but
>> transaction gets failed due to server problem. In above case the POS
>> machine generates transaction failed receipt which we have to give to
>> customer as a proof of unsuccessful transaction. We experience same
>> thing on online payment as amount get deducted from our account but
>> the online store does not receive the payment. This is very common
>> with IRCTC web site.
>> Bhawani sir, in today’s competitive market we have to give that
>> payment options which are comfortable to customer, swiping the card is
>> commonly accepted method of cashless transaction.
>> .
>>
>> On 12/8/16, bhawani shankar verma  wrote:
>>> they can give the customer his IFSC code and account number. the customer
>>> can transfer money instantly through UPI. as you quoted a small business
>>> owner, the transfer limit of Rs.1/- UPI limit should suffice the
>>> matter.
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Zoher Kheriwala" 
>>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerning
>>> the disabled." 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 7:45 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making online
>>> payments is tough call
>>>
>>>
 Hi friends,
 till now this topic is discussed only from the point of view of blind
 customer or amount sender only. What about the small business runner
 who suffers from blindness?
 the swipe machine or POS machine installed in there shop is not at all
 accessible. Even you cant memorize the steps to accept the payment as
 the software of these machines are periodically updated due to
 security reasons, which makes the accepting process different with
 each update. Moreover some times due to card failure or network
 failure a blind shop owner does not come to know that whether the
 payment received successfully or not.

 On 12/7/16, bhawani shankar verma  wrote:
> i suggest to use UPI app of your bank in particular. in my case it is
> pnb
> UPI app and is 90% accessible. Some buttons are to be labled manually.
> you
> need not to register yourself for internet banking etc. you can
> register
> it
> through your linked mobile number, and debit card with a particular
> account.
> the maximum limit is rs.1/- through this mode.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "George Abraham" 
> To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
> concerning
> the disabled.'" 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 3:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making
> online
> payments is tough call
>
>
>> Rightly said! I see it as an opportunity  for us to push for access to
>> all
>>
>> financial services including all websites, apps etc.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>> Behalf Of Leikhu Laishram Leingakpa
>> Sent: 07 December 2016 14:03
>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning
>>
>> the disabled.
>> Subject: Re: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making
>> online
>> payments is tough call
>>
>> Dear all
>> Of course every blind or visually impaired are not literate or tech
>> sabby. This is the case with the non-disabled people too. Moreover
>> cashless is not going to happen overnight. But there are many among us
>> who are familiar with cashless system and can use without any
>> difficulty. So the debate should be how to make the system accessible
>> and how to remove the administrative bottleneck and proper
>> implementation of the programmes and policies. Just take the instances
>> of denial of ATM card and cheque facilities by various bank branche

Re: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making online payments is tough call

[Ajay Minocha]

Hi all,

Happy to guide on BOB, HDFC, SBI and paytm

Regards,
Ajay

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On December 8, 2016 3:54:49 PM "bhawani shankar verma" 
 wrote:



agreed, accessible machines with speech technology is required. UPI
interface is recently launched utility and it will get popularity soon as if
the sender and recipient creates vertual address, they need not to disclose
the account details. it will be more safe and secure as the disability is
concerned.



-Original Message-
From: Zoher Kheriwala
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 11:21 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making online
payments is tough call

Dear Ajai,
Generating a receipt by POS machine does not confirm the receipt of
payment. Sometimes amount is deducted from customers account but
transaction gets failed due to server problem. In above case the POS
machine generates transaction failed receipt which we have to give to
customer as a proof of unsuccessful transaction. We experience same
thing on online payment as amount get deducted from our account but
the online store does not receive the payment. This is very common
with IRCTC web site.
Bhawani sir, in today’s competitive market we have to give that
payment options which are comfortable to customer, swiping the card is
commonly accepted method of cashless transaction.
.

On 12/8/16, bhawani shankar verma  wrote:

they can give the customer his IFSC code and account number. the customer
can transfer money instantly through UPI. as you quoted a small business
owner, the transfer limit of Rs.1/- UPI limit should suffice the
matter.

- Original Message -
From: "Zoher Kheriwala" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning
the disabled." 
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 7:45 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making online
payments is tough call



Hi friends,
till now this topic is discussed only from the point of view of blind
customer or amount sender only. What about the small business runner
who suffers from blindness?
the swipe machine or POS machine installed in there shop is not at all
accessible. Even you cant memorize the steps to accept the payment as
the software of these machines are periodically updated due to
security reasons, which makes the accepting process different with
each update. Moreover some times due to card failure or network
failure a blind shop owner does not come to know that whether the
payment received successfully or not.

On 12/7/16, bhawani shankar verma  wrote:

i suggest to use UPI app of your bank in particular. in my case it is
pnb
UPI app and is 90% accessible. Some buttons are to be labled manually.
you
need not to register yourself for internet banking etc. you can register
it
through your linked mobile number, and debit card with a particular
account.
the maximum limit is rs.1/- through this mode.

- Original Message -
From: "George Abraham" 
To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning
the disabled.'" 
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making
online
payments is tough call



Rightly said! I see it as an opportunity  for us to push for access to
all

financial services including all websites, apps etc.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf Of Leikhu Laishram Leingakpa
Sent: 07 December 2016 14:03
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning

the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making
online
payments is tough call

Dear all
Of course every blind or visually impaired are not literate or tech
sabby. This is the case with the non-disabled people too. Moreover
cashless is not going to happen overnight. But there are many among us
who are familiar with cashless system and can use without any
difficulty. So the debate should be how to make the system accessible
and how to remove the administrative bottleneck and proper
implementation of the programmes and policies. Just take the instances
of denial of ATM card and cheque facilities by various bank branches.

Leikhu Laishram


On 12/7/16, Ajay Minocha  wrote:

Hey George sir,

I completely agree but my main concern is the denial towards embracing
the
change by those who are teck literate.

Regards,
Ajay

Sent with AquaMail for Android
http://www.aqua-mail.com


On December 7, 2016 7:11:32 AM "George Abraham" 
wrote:


Ajay,

The point is well made. But the point to be noted is that millions of
blind
people in India are not computer/tech literate. Most banking
facilities
are
inaccessible and many banks still do not easily provide banking
facilities

to blind people. Alongside pushing the cashless system, it is
important
to

empowe

Re: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making online payments is tough call

[bhawani shankar verma]

agreed, accessible machines with speech technology is required. UPI 
interface is recently launched utility and it will get popularity soon as if 
the sender and recipient creates vertual address, they need not to disclose 
the account details. it will be more safe and secure as the disability is 
concerned.




-Original Message- 
From: Zoher Kheriwala

Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 11:21 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making online 
payments is tough call


Dear Ajai,
Generating a receipt by POS machine does not confirm the receipt of
payment. Sometimes amount is deducted from customers account but
transaction gets failed due to server problem. In above case the POS
machine generates transaction failed receipt which we have to give to
customer as a proof of unsuccessful transaction. We experience same
thing on online payment as amount get deducted from our account but
the online store does not receive the payment. This is very common
with IRCTC web site.
Bhawani sir, in today’s competitive market we have to give that
payment options which are comfortable to customer, swiping the card is
commonly accepted method of cashless transaction.
.

On 12/8/16, bhawani shankar verma  wrote:

they can give the customer his IFSC code and account number. the customer
can transfer money instantly through UPI. as you quoted a small business
owner, the transfer limit of Rs.1/- UPI limit should suffice the 
matter.


- Original Message -
From: "Zoher Kheriwala" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerning

the disabled." 
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 7:45 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making online
payments is tough call



Hi friends,
till now this topic is discussed only from the point of view of blind
customer or amount sender only. What about the small business runner
who suffers from blindness?
the swipe machine or POS machine installed in there shop is not at all
accessible. Even you cant memorize the steps to accept the payment as
the software of these machines are periodically updated due to
security reasons, which makes the accepting process different with
each update. Moreover some times due to card failure or network
failure a blind shop owner does not come to know that whether the
payment received successfully or not.

On 12/7/16, bhawani shankar verma  wrote:
i suggest to use UPI app of your bank in particular. in my case it is 
pnb

UPI app and is 90% accessible. Some buttons are to be labled manually.
you
need not to register yourself for internet banking etc. you can register
it
through your linked mobile number, and debit card with a particular
account.
the maximum limit is rs.1/- through this mode.

- Original Message -
From: "George Abraham" 
To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning
the disabled.'" 
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making 
online

payments is tough call



Rightly said! I see it as an opportunity  for us to push for access to
all

financial services including all websites, apps etc.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf Of Leikhu Laishram Leingakpa
Sent: 07 December 2016 14:03
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning

the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making
online
payments is tough call

Dear all
Of course every blind or visually impaired are not literate or tech
sabby. This is the case with the non-disabled people too. Moreover
cashless is not going to happen overnight. But there are many among us
who are familiar with cashless system and can use without any
difficulty. So the debate should be how to make the system accessible
and how to remove the administrative bottleneck and proper
implementation of the programmes and policies. Just take the instances
of denial of ATM card and cheque facilities by various bank branches.

Leikhu Laishram


On 12/7/16, Ajay Minocha  wrote:

Hey George sir,

I completely agree but my main concern is the denial towards embracing
the
change by those who are teck literate.

Regards,
Ajay

Sent with AquaMail for Android
http://www.aqua-mail.com


On December 7, 2016 7:11:32 AM "George Abraham" 
wrote:


Ajay,

The point is well made. But the point to be noted is that millions of
blind
people in India are not computer/tech literate. Most banking
facilities
are
inaccessible and many banks still do not easily provide banking
facilities

to blind people. Alongside pushing the cashless system, it is
important
to

empower the blind individual, and make accessible the tools of the
cashless
economy and banks have to start engaging with blind customers. The
switch
is not quite that simple. This ca

Re: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making online payments is tough call

[bhawani shankar verma]

each individual having different bank accounts, debit card, credit card, net 
banking password, pin numbers,  in different banks and the interface of 
internet banking and payment gateways are not same. how a training can be 
arrange to trained online transactions.




-Original Message- 
From: Chandrashekhar Kulkarni

Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 2:12 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making online 
payments is tough call


Dear List Members,
Good discussion indeed. It seems that we shoould insist on making
majority of the on-line payment options aaccessible for us, at least
who are aware of technology to some extent and not only to the
experts. Further as pointed by  one of the members, even the swiping
machines need to be made accessible so as to protect the interests of
small business units run by our brothers and sisters.
I would suggest some experts on the list can initiate the training on
different on-line payment options which will not only be useful to us
but may help others who are completely unaware or less aware. Only
thing the language should be simple and description should be step by
step.
Sincerely,
C. B. Kulkarni

On 08/12/2016, Ajay Minocha  wrote:

yes but ifI sell a common product then the customer wouldnt take that much
pain only for me. Even in paytm it is very easy as the customer has to 
just

scan the qr code.

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On December 8, 2016 7:11:53 AM "bhawani shankar verma"
 wrote:


they can give the customer his IFSC code and account number. the customer
can transfer money instantly through UPI. as you quoted a small business
owner, the transfer limit of Rs.1/- UPI limit should suffice the
matter.

- Original Message -
From: "Zoher Kheriwala" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning
the disabled." 
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 7:45 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making online
payments is tough call



Hi friends,
till now this topic is discussed only from the point of view of blind
customer or amount sender only. What about the small business runner
who suffers from blindness?
the swipe machine or POS machine installed in there shop is not at all
accessible. Even you cant memorize the steps to accept the payment as
the software of these machines are periodically updated due to
security reasons, which makes the accepting process different with
each update. Moreover some times due to card failure or network
failure a blind shop owner does not come to know that whether the
payment received successfully or not.

On 12/7/16, bhawani shankar verma  wrote:

i suggest to use UPI app of your bank in particular. in my case it is
pnb
UPI app and is 90% accessible. Some buttons are to be labled manually.
you
need not to register yourself for internet banking etc. you can 
register

it
through your linked mobile number, and debit card with a particular
account.
the maximum limit is rs.1/- through this mode.

- Original Message -
From: "George Abraham" 
To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning
the disabled.'" 
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making
online
payments is tough call



Rightly said! I see it as an opportunity  for us to push for access to
all

financial services including all websites, apps etc.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf Of Leikhu Laishram Leingakpa
Sent: 07 December 2016 14:03
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning

the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making
online
payments is tough call

Dear all
Of course every blind or visually impaired are not literate or tech
sabby. This is the case with the non-disabled people too. Moreover
cashless is not going to happen overnight. But there are many among us
who are familiar with cashless system and can use without any
difficulty. So the debate should be how to make the system accessible
and how to remove the administrative bottleneck and proper
implementation of the programmes and policies. Just take the instances
of denial of ATM card and cheque facilities by various bank branches.

Leikhu Laishram


On 12/7/16, Ajay Minocha  wrote:

Hey George sir,

I completely agree but my main concern is the denial towards 
embracing

the
change by those who are teck literate.

Regards,
Ajay

Sent with AquaMail for Android
http://www.aqua-mail.com


On December 7, 2016 7:11:32 AM "George Abraham" 
wrote:


Ajay,

The point is well made. But the point to be noted is that millions 
of

blind
people in India are not computer/tech literate. Most banking
facilities
are
inaccessible and many banks still do not easily provide ban

Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information

[sazid shaik]

Sorry my dear friends, I could not understand on this bill amendment.
One thing is that I felt happy that all state/central govt depertments
has to impliment this reservation in jobs will be fast after the
approval of this bill.  I hope some thing is better than nothing.

thanks and regards,
sazid

On 12/7/16, Ajay Minocha  wrote:
> 100% Agree with Avinash, detecting the actual percentage has been a
> grey area since long and the so-called visually impaired feternity is
> the biggest threat to the livelyhood and employment of people in
> genuan need.
>
> Regards,
> Ajay
>
> On 12/7/16, Mujeeb Rahman  wrote:
>> Glad to see the discussion going on the right direction and would like
>> to have more clarity on the proposed reservation ratio..
>> On 12/7/16, avinash shahi  wrote:
>>> Faking blindness looks as jenuin as one real blind man/woman. It will
>>> be near impossible to knab such criminals. Moreover, many government
>>> establishments will prefer taking fake disabled rather the jenuin
>>> people with disabilities. This is the practice being in place in many
>>> states already.
>>>
>>> On 12/7/16, akshun mahajan  wrote:
 other categories will be entitled for other beneficed such as
 concession , right to food shelter and cloth .
 .5 for low vision and .5 for blind is not clear yet and the person who
 possess fake certificate can be imprisoned and also be charged high
 fine
 there is provision for penalty who uses fake certificate

 On 12/7/16, avinash shahi  wrote:
> How do you know it? 0.5 per cent each is expected to be divided
> between totally blind and low-vision categories. I've made a cursory
> read on the amendments and asking the biggest question why the
> government has not yet specified in clear terms about how the 4 per
> cent reservation will be distributed among increased categories in the
> proposed Bill. The instances abound where the low-vision have hundred
> per cent certificate and the sighted people have low-vision
> certificate and they are using the document to sail through in the
> government jobs. Government is hellbent in giving certificate but what
> about the menace of fake certificates? what does the law say about it?
> I don't know.  Many states including Himachal Pradesh, Bihar and Uttar
> Pradesh have publickly affirmed that they don't want totally blind
> people in their offices at any cost. In fact majority of government
> offices don't want those who can't talk in their eyes.  Where do we go
> from here, in hell perhaps.  people living in the cities and those
> already employed are fortunate ones. and those who've sound family
> support system and keep on teaching list that 'something is good than
> nothing' will continue to sing the government version song  for their
> personal goals. They are very much in demand for awards. And they will
> continue to play partisan role to be patronized. upcoming times are
> not gonna be rosy, be prepared and learn the art to face the bumpy
> road from the so called 'normal' and from our own blind friends who
> are there to collaborate to make you 'inspirational' and 'role
> models'; cause being ordinary is an extraordinary crime if you are
> disabled...
>  On 12/7/16, akshun mahajan  wrote:
>> reservation of blind will not be tempered.
>>
>> On 12/7/16, Mujeeb Rahman  wrote:
>>> Indeed its a serius issue and needs urgent intervention  of hon.
>>> Supreme
>>> Court..
>>>
>>> On 12/7/16, B. R. Nautial  wrote:
 I think, this is the total falior of our people, those were involve
 with
 this issue cause they couldn't keep our view point strongly. In my
 openion,
 through this bill, visually impaired will be isolated from the main
 stream.
 - Original Message -
 From: "Sakina Dhariwala " 
 To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerning
 the disabled." 
 Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2016 7:40 AM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information


> Hi mem, the propose of 4 percent for job, but what about totally
> blind?
> With warm regards Sakina.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Kanchan Pamnani" 
> To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
> concerning the disabled.'" 
> Sent: December 06, 2016 10:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: RPD Bill -- PIB release -- for information
>
>
>> No it isn’t.
>> It was 5% in 2014 and we lost 1% to  the infighting and the great
>> non
>> strategic thinking from our leaders and thinkers.
>> Kanchan
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@access

Re: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making online payments is tough call

[Chandrashekhar Kulkarni]

Dear List Members,
Good discussion indeed. It seems that we shoould insist on making
majority of the on-line payment options aaccessible for us, at least
who are aware of technology to some extent and not only to the
experts. Further as pointed by  one of the members, even the swiping
machines need to be made accessible so as to protect the interests of
small business units run by our brothers and sisters.
I would suggest some experts on the list can initiate the training on
different on-line payment options which will not only be useful to us
but may help others who are completely unaware or less aware. Only
thing the language should be simple and description should be step by
step.
Sincerely,
C. B. Kulkarni

On 08/12/2016, Ajay Minocha  wrote:
> yes but ifI sell a common product then the customer wouldnt take that much
> pain only for me. Even in paytm it is very easy as the customer has to just
> scan the qr code.
>
> Sent with AquaMail for Android
> http://www.aqua-mail.com
>
>
> On December 8, 2016 7:11:53 AM "bhawani shankar verma"
>  wrote:
>
>> they can give the customer his IFSC code and account number. the customer
>> can transfer money instantly through UPI. as you quoted a small business
>> owner, the transfer limit of Rs.1/- UPI limit should suffice the
>> matter.
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Zoher Kheriwala" 
>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning
>> the disabled." 
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 7:45 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making online
>> payments is tough call
>>
>>
>>> Hi friends,
>>> till now this topic is discussed only from the point of view of blind
>>> customer or amount sender only. What about the small business runner
>>> who suffers from blindness?
>>> the swipe machine or POS machine installed in there shop is not at all
>>> accessible. Even you cant memorize the steps to accept the payment as
>>> the software of these machines are periodically updated due to
>>> security reasons, which makes the accepting process different with
>>> each update. Moreover some times due to card failure or network
>>> failure a blind shop owner does not come to know that whether the
>>> payment received successfully or not.
>>>
>>> On 12/7/16, bhawani shankar verma  wrote:
 i suggest to use UPI app of your bank in particular. in my case it is
 pnb
 UPI app and is 90% accessible. Some buttons are to be labled manually.
 you
 need not to register yourself for internet banking etc. you can register
 it
 through your linked mobile number, and debit card with a particular
 account.
 the maximum limit is rs.1/- through this mode.

 - Original Message -
 From: "George Abraham" 
 To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerning
 the disabled.'" 
 Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 3:36 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making
 online
 payments is tough call


> Rightly said! I see it as an opportunity  for us to push for access to
> all
>
> financial services including all websites, apps etc.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
> Behalf Of Leikhu Laishram Leingakpa
> Sent: 07 December 2016 14:03
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
> concerning
>
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making
> online
> payments is tough call
>
> Dear all
> Of course every blind or visually impaired are not literate or tech
> sabby. This is the case with the non-disabled people too. Moreover
> cashless is not going to happen overnight. But there are many among us
> who are familiar with cashless system and can use without any
> difficulty. So the debate should be how to make the system accessible
> and how to remove the administrative bottleneck and proper
> implementation of the programmes and policies. Just take the instances
> of denial of ATM card and cheque facilities by various bank branches.
>
> Leikhu Laishram
>
>
> On 12/7/16, Ajay Minocha  wrote:
>> Hey George sir,
>>
>> I completely agree but my main concern is the denial towards embracing
>> the
>> change by those who are teck literate.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Ajay
>>
>> Sent with AquaMail for Android
>> http://www.aqua-mail.com
>>
>>
>> On December 7, 2016 7:11:32 AM "George Abraham" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ajay,
>>>
>>> The point is well made. But the point to be noted is that millions of
>>> blind
>>> people in India are not computer/tech literate. Most banking
>>> facilities
>>> are
>>> inaccessible and many banks still do not easily provide banking
>>> fa

Re: [AI] 2 quaries regarding internet

[Austin Pinto]

ok.
your first question was answered properly by Jeegar Pithava.
now for the second question.
go to start then all programs menu then internet explorer submenu and open it.
find internet explore in that submenu.
press the applications key select open file location and a folder will
open and your focus will be on internet explore shortcut.
just copy paste this to desktop.
or if you have internet explorer shortcut on start menue you can press
applications key select open file location and after the folder opens
copy paste the shortcut on desktop.
hope this answers your questions.

On 12/8/16, Selva Kumar  wrote:
> Hi Ashmira,
>
> I am selva from bangalore
> First I need some information before I  clear your doubt
> Wich operating system you are using?, and wich browser are You Using?
>
> Thanks,and Regards,
> Selvakumar.
> Practo technology india Pvt Ltd
>
>
> On 12/4/16, Ashmira Hamirani  wrote:
>> hello all,
>> I am Ashmira here required your support to solve two issues with
>> internet.
>> 1. how to change the search engine from yahoo to google.
>> 2. how to create internet explorer short cut  on desktop in windows
>> eight point one.
>> thanks a lot
>> ashmira hamirani thakur
>>
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