Re: [AI] Regarding dating
On 1/21/17, Lokesh Naikwrote: > hello friends, any ladies and boys are ready to come to meetings and > dating in Bangalore means please feel free to contact me. we will form > one dating and meeting club for visually impaired persons and other > disables. we will enjoy our life like how the others are enjoying in > this world like we will do all kind of parties and have fun friends so > please,please come forward friends for enjoyment. 08028386508. > > On 1/21/17, Preeti Monga wrote: >> Hi Sir! >> Here it is below: >> >> >> Thank you for showing your interest in joining Fusion, and to writing to >> me >> for the same. >> >> Fusion is a face to face social networking platform which my organization >> launched in Delhi in 2013 November. We have had over 20 sessions here in >> Delhi till now. The last one was a picnic at the deer park in Delhi. >> >> This is basically a platform to get people with and people without >> disabilities to come together and interact socially and get to know each >> other and develop friendships and build partnerships. Most disabled >> people >> have no opportunity to mingle with the non disabled world and so they are >> left out of all the social activities that non disabled people are >> engaging >> in. And due to this, most of us disabled people live in their very small >> world and ultimately do not get to experience all that this world has to >> offer! >> >> I have been very lucky and have had all the opportunities to mingle and >> live >> in an inclusive environment and have had the opportunity to taste all >> the >> flavors of life and due to which, I am today a happy and well settled >> person. As you may be aware, I am a grandmother of 3 children, and have >> a >> happily married life and a great profession, which I have managed to >> carve >> out for myself! I have been through a very challenging life, and still >> there are challenges in my life, but, that is with all of us no? But yet, >> I >> have managed to do all that I have ever wanted to do! Well, I feel that >> there is a very great need for people with disabilities to mingle with >> the >> non disabled community, and this should happen without any strings >> attached, >> and only then can they can expand their outlook on life and this will >> also >> give them a chance to develop healthy relationships and partnerships >> with >> others! We need to stop thinking of getting married or dating disability >> or >> non disability! We have to look at people as people, and need to >> understand >> that it is a person that we need to marry or date, and disability need >> not >> get in the way! It is the values and thoughts that need to match! But, >> because there are very few chances for us to get around and meet a large >> group of humans, due to various constraints our disabilities put upon us, >> we >> simply have no way of expanding our out look! Also we don't have the >> chance >> of finding ways to come across enough people to choose our friends from, >> also vice versa! Even this makes us a mystery for the non disabled >> people! >> They look at us as disabled only, and not humans like them! So Fusion >> tries >> to bring together all people so we get an opportunity to look beyond >> disability and relax and socialize and experience various great and not >> so >> great experiences that society has in store for all of us! We have to >> come >> together! >> >> You can also read my autobiography called The Other Senses published by >> Roli >> Books! It is available on Bookshare! This will give you more insite into >> my >> life and what I mean by opportunities to live an inclusive life! >> >> Now how you can join: >> >> We at the moment are only having this happening in Delhi, but we need >> this >> to happen all over the country! Hopefully you people will make this >> happen >> in other cities as well! The next meet is being planned for the last >> Sunday >> of February, do look out for our invite on AI and Sayeverything! All you >> need to do is come! >> >> For more information, do call me sometime. >> >> Warmly >> >> Preeti >> >> Preeti Monga - Chief Executive Officer >> >> >> Inspiring INCLUSION! Fostering DIGNITY! >> >> >> Mobile : 91 9871701646 >> Landline : 011 22781446 >> E-mail : preeti.mo...@silver-linings.org /preeti.mo...@gmail.com >> Website : www.silver-linings.org >> Our Services: Recruitment , Trainings- Unique Motivation Programmes, >> Diversity & Inclusion, Prevention of Sexual Harassment >> Connect With Us : >> >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On >> Behalf >> Of Dr Yusuf Vohra >> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 20:00 >> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues >> concerning >> the disabled. >> Subject: Re: [AI] Regarding dating >> >> So how to connect with it? >> >> >> On January 20, 2017 6:42:49 PM "Preeti Monga" >>
Re: [AI] Regarding dating
hello friends, any ladies and boys are ready to come to meetings and dating in Bangalore means please feel free to contact me. we will form one dating and meeting club for visually impaired persons and other disables. we will enjoy our life like how the others are enjoying in this world like we will do all kind of parties and have fun friends so please,please come forward friends for enjoyment. 08028386508. On 1/21/17, Preeti Mongawrote: > Hi Sir! > Here it is below: > > > Thank you for showing your interest in joining Fusion, and to writing to me > for the same. > > Fusion is a face to face social networking platform which my organization > launched in Delhi in 2013 November. We have had over 20 sessions here in > Delhi till now. The last one was a picnic at the deer park in Delhi. > > This is basically a platform to get people with and people without > disabilities to come together and interact socially and get to know each > other and develop friendships and build partnerships. Most disabled people > have no opportunity to mingle with the non disabled world and so they are > left out of all the social activities that non disabled people are > engaging > in. And due to this, most of us disabled people live in their very small > world and ultimately do not get to experience all that this world has to > offer! > > I have been very lucky and have had all the opportunities to mingle and > live > in an inclusive environment and have had the opportunity to taste all the > flavors of life and due to which, I am today a happy and well settled > person. As you may be aware, I am a grandmother of 3 children, and have a > happily married life and a great profession, which I have managed to carve > out for myself! I have been through a very challenging life, and still > there are challenges in my life, but, that is with all of us no? But yet, I > have managed to do all that I have ever wanted to do! Well, I feel that > there is a very great need for people with disabilities to mingle with the > non disabled community, and this should happen without any strings > attached, > and only then can they can expand their outlook on life and this will also > give them a chance to develop healthy relationships and partnerships with > others! We need to stop thinking of getting married or dating disability or > non disability! We have to look at people as people, and need to understand > that it is a person that we need to marry or date, and disability need > not > get in the way! It is the values and thoughts that need to match! But, > because there are very few chances for us to get around and meet a large > group of humans, due to various constraints our disabilities put upon us, > we > simply have no way of expanding our out look! Also we don't have the chance > of finding ways to come across enough people to choose our friends from, > also vice versa! Even this makes us a mystery for the non disabled people! > They look at us as disabled only, and not humans like them! So Fusion tries > to bring together all people so we get an opportunity to look beyond > disability and relax and socialize and experience various great and not so > great experiences that society has in store for all of us! We have to > come > together! > > You can also read my autobiography called The Other Senses published by > Roli > Books! It is available on Bookshare! This will give you more insite into my > life and what I mean by opportunities to live an inclusive life! > > Now how you can join: > > We at the moment are only having this happening in Delhi, but we need this > to happen all over the country! Hopefully you people will make this happen > in other cities as well! The next meet is being planned for the last Sunday > of February, do look out for our invite on AI and Sayeverything! All you > need to do is come! > > For more information, do call me sometime. > > Warmly > > Preeti > > Preeti Monga - Chief Executive Officer > > > Inspiring INCLUSION! Fostering DIGNITY! > > > Mobile : 91 9871701646 > Landline : 011 22781446 > E-mail : preeti.mo...@silver-linings.org /preeti.mo...@gmail.com > Website : www.silver-linings.org > Our Services: Recruitment , Trainings- Unique Motivation Programmes, > Diversity & Inclusion, Prevention of Sexual Harassment > Connect With Us : > > > > > -Original Message- > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf > Of Dr Yusuf Vohra > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 20:00 > To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning > the disabled. > Subject: Re: [AI] Regarding dating > > So how to connect with it? > > > On January 20, 2017 6:42:49 PM "Preeti Monga" > wrote: > >> Fusion is not a mailing list! Fusion is a face to face social networking >> platform, which meets regularly to bring people with and without >> disabilities together and have them develop
[AI] Free residential computer training at Snehadeep trust for the disabled Bangaluru
Dear all Sub: free residential computer training at Snehadeep trust for the disabled Sponsored by Hsbc Summer classes Students, teachers and employed youths can utilize this training programme to enhance thir knowledge >From april to may last And 8 months training programme from June Snehadeep trust, a leading NGO, commences free computer training course For the persons with visually challenged, With the aim to bring up awareness to get better opportunities, And create a inclusive environment, For leading a life with dignity and economic independence. Last date for applying is 29-March-2017 Basic computer Training program The trust aims to conduct a vigorous training Program for 2 months starting from April 2016. We aim to train the candidates in basic computer course and teach English. Only 20 candidates are provided the opportunity for this computer course. Our main focus areas is to provide Free computer training for the Visually impaired with English communication as one of the main focal area Along with soft skill and carrier guidance. Teachers can apply for this course to gain computer knowledge. Course outline includes: Difference between hardware and software. Working with Latest Windows operating system Working on famed word processer. MS word. Spread sheet application, ms excel. Ms PowerPoint. Introducing to the world of internet, Using latest browsers like, Google chrome, Firefox and internet explorer. Email client configuration, MS outlook. . Screen Reading Software including Basic Operation and Screen Reading Configuration . Scanning and OCR . Digital eBook reading (DAISY, PDF, EPUB etc.) . Utilities such as Dictionary, Encyclopedia, games, music, file Compression and system maintenance. This program helps the visually impaired people in their reading and education as well as Enables them in their employment and career opportunities. English Communication classes which includes employment training, career guidance, soft Skills, Counseling and Personality Development. Many eminent personalities in different fields in training and employment Would be involved in guiding and assisting the candidates during the Training program. Conclusion of the program. The ultimate aim of this course is to make The candidate employable and use computers for the all round development of his or her needs. >From June 2017, Snehadeep would begin a 8 month complete computer course and this training would facilitate job opportunities at the end of the training programme in suitable jobs. So far Snehadeep is very successful in placing almost all the trained Candidates in Good jobs both in the government, banks and private sectors. Eligibility Candidates who have done their SSLC or +2 or second PUC and degree can Apply for this course. Proficiency in English Preference given to graduates Age limit: 18 to 30 Number of seats: 20 Last date of admissions: 29 March 2017. 2. No admissions will be entertained after 29TH of March 2017. 3. Hostel accommodation facility is available Interested candidates can register their names at Snehadeep trust Number 36, Charles Campbell Road, Cox town, Bangalore 560005. Phone: 08025801069, 9449021997 9449021997 9972077673 E-mail: snehadeeptr...@gmail.com paulmud...@snehadeep.org kudurgmo...@gmail.com DISCLAIMER: This email may contain privileged information and is intended solely for the addressee, and any disclosure of this information is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this mail by mistake, please inform the sender immediately and delete this mail. Any information expressed in this mail does not necessarily reflect the views of CANARA BANK. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Bank. The recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The sender declares that no liability can be cast upon the sender for any error or omissions in the contents of the message that arise, as a result of e-mail transmission and further declares that the sender cannot be made liable for any loss suffered by any person, on account of having acted upon any messages which is vitiated by error, omissions or interception. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of
[AI] Need attention on below matter on partiality of government in recruitment.
Hi All, I want to draw your attention on the very important point . That could be helpful for few those who are looking job in technical department under government of india. Since last few years I have been observed that HPCL, IOCL, BPCL, BEL , ONGC and more government companies are recruiting candidates for technical and engineering department through GATE exam. They are hiring person with disability but only OH and HH . They don't hires VH not even Low vision . Why this is so ?. In their advertisement they do mentioned clearly that 3% sits are reserved for person with disability . But in details they are mentioning that only OH or HH candidates are suitable .. means VH candidates are at all not suitable for these kind of roles ..why these differences are ? Those doing engineering and are visually impaired what is their future of government companies are behaving like this ... Who has given rights to those organization for not to hire visual handicap .. On what basis they are saying only HH and OH are suitable .. They are not following the government order of hiring each and every category of disabled equally ... I want your suggestion on this .. Attached is HPCL advertisement of hiring engineers on the basis of GATE 2017 but don't have openings for VH its happening since last few years ( my personal views since 2014 ) Is there any governing body who can answer on it . Where can we ask our doubts on this ... Looking forward for your genuine response... Thanks Vaibhav kasar Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] Books for National open schooling
Hi Friends, I need study material of hindi literature in audio format to prepare net exam. could anyone help me in this regard? Thanks and Regards. On 1/18/17, Satguru Rathiwrote: > Hi, > > The 10th books are available on NIOS website in audio/Daisy and in PDF as > well. Visit http://www.nios.ac.in/online-course-material.aspx > > > With best regards, > Satguru Rathi > Junior Assistant | NIOS > +91-9871489945 > satgurura...@gmail.com > www.nios.ac.in > From: Sandeep Singh > Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2017 11:32 AM > To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning > the disabled. > Subject: [AI] Books for National open schooling > > Dear friends, > Can anybody please provide the source for 10th standard books > (preferably Hindi) for National Open School curriculum? > Waiting for your prompt responses. > Best regards, > Sandeep > > > Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of > mobile phones / Tabs on: > http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the > person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails > sent through this mailing list.. > > Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of > mobile phones / Tabs on: > http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the > person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails > sent through this mailing list.. > Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] Regarding dating
Hi Sir! Here it is below: Thank you for showing your interest in joining Fusion, and to writing to me for the same. Fusion is a face to face social networking platform which my organization launched in Delhi in 2013 November. We have had over 20 sessions here in Delhi till now. The last one was a picnic at the deer park in Delhi. This is basically a platform to get people with and people without disabilities to come together and interact socially and get to know each other and develop friendships and build partnerships. Most disabled people have no opportunity to mingle with the non disabled world and so they are left out of all the social activities that non disabled people are engaging in. And due to this, most of us disabled people live in their very small world and ultimately do not get to experience all that this world has to offer! I have been very lucky and have had all the opportunities to mingle and live in an inclusive environment and have had the opportunity to taste all the flavors of life and due to which, I am today a happy and well settled person. As you may be aware, I am a grandmother of 3 children, and have a happily married life and a great profession, which I have managed to carve out for myself! I have been through a very challenging life, and still there are challenges in my life, but, that is with all of us no? But yet, I have managed to do all that I have ever wanted to do! Well, I feel that there is a very great need for people with disabilities to mingle with the non disabled community, and this should happen without any strings attached, and only then can they can expand their outlook on life and this will also give them a chance to develop healthy relationships and partnerships with others! We need to stop thinking of getting married or dating disability or non disability! We have to look at people as people, and need to understand that it is a person that we need to marry or date, and disability need not get in the way! It is the values and thoughts that need to match! But, because there are very few chances for us to get around and meet a large group of humans, due to various constraints our disabilities put upon us, we simply have no way of expanding our out look! Also we don't have the chance of finding ways to come across enough people to choose our friends from, also vice versa! Even this makes us a mystery for the non disabled people! They look at us as disabled only, and not humans like them! So Fusion tries to bring together all people so we get an opportunity to look beyond disability and relax and socialize and experience various great and not so great experiences that society has in store for all of us! We have to come together! You can also read my autobiography called The Other Senses published by Roli Books! It is available on Bookshare! This will give you more insite into my life and what I mean by opportunities to live an inclusive life! Now how you can join: We at the moment are only having this happening in Delhi, but we need this to happen all over the country! Hopefully you people will make this happen in other cities as well! The next meet is being planned for the last Sunday of February, do look out for our invite on AI and Sayeverything! All you need to do is come! For more information, do call me sometime. Warmly Preeti Preeti Monga - Chief Executive Officer Inspiring INCLUSION! Fostering DIGNITY! Mobile : 91 9871701646 Landline : 011 22781446 E-mail : preeti.mo...@silver-linings.org /preeti.mo...@gmail.com Website : www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Recruitment , Trainings- Unique Motivation Programmes, Diversity & Inclusion, Prevention of Sexual Harassment Connect With Us : -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Dr Yusuf Vohra Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 20:00 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Regarding dating So how to connect with it? On January 20, 2017 6:42:49 PM "Preeti Monga"wrote: > Fusion is not a mailing list! Fusion is a face to face social networking > platform, which meets regularly to bring people with and without > disabilities together and have them develop friendships, just like a club. > > Warmly > > Preeti > > Preeti Monga - Chief Executive Officer > > > Inspiring INCLUSION! Fostering DIGNITY! > > > Mobile : 91 9871701646 > Landline : 011 22781446 > E-mail : preeti.mo...@silver-linings.org /preeti.mo...@gmail.com > Website : www.silver-linings.org > Our Services: Recruitment , Trainings- Unique Motivation Programmes, > Diversity & Inclusion, Prevention of Sexual Harassment > Connect With Us : > > > > > -Original Message- > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf > Of Dr Yusuf Vohra > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 18:21 > To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing
Re: [AI] Regarding dating
Hi Guys, Thank you for your intrest. Below is some more information regarding Fusion! Thank you for showing your interest in joining Fusion, and to writing to me for the same. Fusion is a face to face social networking platform which my organization launched in Delhi in 2013 November. We have had over 20 sessions here in Delhi till now. The last one was a picnic at the deer park in Delhi. This is basically a platform to get people with and people without disabilities to come together and interact socially and get to know each other and develop friendships and build partnerships. Most disabled people have no opportunity to mingle with the non disabled world and so they are left out of all the social activities that non disabled people are engaging in. And due to this, most of us disabled people live in their very small world and ultimately do not get to experience all that this world has to offer! I have been very lucky and have had all the opportunities to mingle and live in an inclusive environment and have had the opportunity to taste all the flavors of life and due to which, I am today a happy and well settled person. As you may be aware, I am a grandmother of 3 children, and have a happily married life and a great profession, which I have managed to carve out for myself! I have been through a very challenging life, and still there are challenges in my life, but, that is with all of us no? But yet, I have managed to do all that I have ever wanted to do! Well, I feel that there is a very great need for people with disabilities to mingle with the non disabled community, and this should happen without any strings attached, and only then can they can expand their outlook on life and this will also give them a chance to develop healthy relationships and partnerships with others! We need to stop thinking of getting married or dating disability or non disability! We have to look at people as people, and need to understand that it is a person that we need to marry or date, and disability need not get in the way! It is the values and thoughts that need to match! But, because there are very few chances for us to get around and meet a large group of humans, due to various constraints our disabilities put upon us, we simply have no way of expanding our out look! Also we don't have the chance of finding ways to come across enough people to choose our friends from, also vice versa! Even this makes us a mystery for the non disabled people! They look at us as disabled only, and not humans like them! So Fusion tries to bring together all people so we get an opportunity to look beyond disability and relax and socialize and experience various great and not so great experiences that society has in store for all of us! We have to come together! You can also read my autobiography called The Other Senses published by Roli Books! It is available on Bookshare! This will give you more insite into my life and what I mean by opportunities to live an inclusive life! Now how you can join: We at the moment are only having this happening in Delhi, but we need this to happen all over the country! Hopefully you people will make this happen in other cities as well! The next meet is being planned for the last Sunday of February, do look out for our invite on AI and Sayeverything! All you need to do is come! For more information, do call me sometime. Warmly Preeti Preeti Monga - Chief Executive Officer Inspiring INCLUSION! Fostering DIGNITY! Mobile : 91 9871701646 Landline : 011 22781446 E-mail : preeti.mo...@silver-linings.org /preeti.mo...@gmail.com Website : www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Recruitment , Trainings- Unique Motivation Programmes, Diversity & Inclusion, Prevention of Sexual Harassment Connect With Us : -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Sahil Garg Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 21:40 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Regarding dating Nice!! People are talking on this. And really? Fusion is so interesting.. ?? Put some more light please!! On Fri, Jan 20, 2017 at 8:00 PM, Dr Yusuf Vohrawrote: > So how to connect with it? > > > > On January 20, 2017 6:42:49 PM "Preeti Monga" < > preeti.mo...@silver-linings.org> wrote: > > Fusion is not a mailing list! Fusion is a face to face social networking >> platform, which meets regularly to bring people with and without >> disabilities together and have them develop friendships, just like a club. >> >> Warmly >> >> Preeti >> >> Preeti Monga - Chief Executive Officer >> >> >> Inspiring INCLUSION! Fostering DIGNITY! >> >> >> Mobile : 91 9871701646 >> Landline : 011 22781446 >> E-mail : preeti.mo...@silver-linings.org /preeti.mo...@gmail.com >> Website : www.silver-linings.org >> Our Services: Recruitment , Trainings- Unique Motivation Programmes, >> Diversity & Inclusion,
Re: [AI] Fw: Feedback on TalkBack
Hello everyone, I am writing this mail just to clarify. I hope this mail will end the pointless debate running since a long time. I, Akashdeep Bansal (My official neme) is a PhD student at IIT Delhi working in field of Assistive Technologies. We started a project named as "Reading Accessibility for Visually Impaired" around six month earlier under the supervision of Prof. M Balakrishnan. Under this project, a group of students worked on enhancing table accessibility in a EPUB3 document on Android platform. After developing this app, which we will be lauching by first week of February, we realised that it will be great if we can implement this feature in TalkBack itself. This will help us in getting table accessibility features on all platforms. Otherwise, we will requires to develop seperate app for different tasks, which seems pointless. With the same idea, we approached google and started implementing same features in TalkBack code. Still its google's freedom that they want to incoperate our contribution or not on the basis of our code's performance. It's not a official project or partnership between us, In December, some more students have joined our group. So, we was looking for a problem statement for them. That's why i wrote that mail I never thought that mentioning "collaboration with google" will lead to such a confusion. I apologies for the same. I hope this will clarify all the doubts. Now i would like to request you all to end the pointless debate. If you feel it is a spam mail, please ignore but please don't continue with the pointless debate. Those who are interested in contributing with us, please visit following link for more detail http://www.cse.iitd.ernet.in/~akashdeep/ I hope now everyone will create a comfortable environment for all and will help us in developing solutions for inclusive STEM education in India. Thanks and Regards Aakash Bansal On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 2:44 PM, shankar shanwrote: > exactly, as for my observations, there is no collaberation between > google and IIT Delhi. > but, I am asuming that, IIT Delhi team may devolop the software with > the google's recently releised source code or, they might have there > own. > this mail is on moderation and, the recipient may or may not reply for > this message. > lets start new thread on this issue and, seek reply from the sender. > > > > > On 1/19/17, Satguru Rathi wrote: > > Dear Akash, > > > > Please clerify. > > > > Your message said that there is a collaberation with Google but the below > > message from one of the google employee speakes the opposite. > > > > With best regards, > > Satguru > > ___,__.___ > > "Life's battle do not always go, to the stronger or faster man. But > sooner > > or later the one who wins, is the one who thinks he can." > > > > Satguru Rathi > > +91-9871489945 > > +91-8076761833 > > satgurura...@gmail.com > > > > From: Victor Tsaran > > Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 2:16 PM > > To: eyes-free > > Subject: Re: Fwd: [AI] Feedback on TalkBack > > > > Hi. > > Just to clarify... This is not an official project from Google and there > is > > no collaboration effort in the works. > > I believe the team that posted this message means well but their work > > happens outside of Google. > > > > Best. > > Victor > > > > > > On Sat, Jan 7, 2017 at 12:33 AM, G melconian > > wrote: > > > > Acashewheneve you decied to do anything I am available ot hel pain any > way > > I can. I have done this in the past for other developer of list nd I will > > continue ot do it for any developer who needs help on the lsit s well. > > Android is my hobby outise of my busy life in a very hectic professional > > practice. > > > > > > -- > > To report violations of our ground rules or content guidelines, contact > > eyes-free+own...@googlegroups.com. -- https://goo.gl/rDveM8 > > --- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > "eyes-free" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an > > email to eyes-free+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > To post to this group, send email to eyes-f...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > > > > -- > > To report violations of our ground rules or content guidelines, contact > > eyes-free+own...@googlegroups.com. -- https://goo.gl/rDveM8 > > --- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "eyes-free" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > > email to eyes-free+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > To post to this group, send email to eyes-f...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > > Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility > of > > mobile phones / Tabs on: > >
Re: [AI] Regarding dating
Nice!! People are talking on this. And really? Fusion is so interesting.. ?? Put some more light please!! On Fri, Jan 20, 2017 at 8:00 PM, Dr Yusuf Vohrawrote: > So how to connect with it? > > > > On January 20, 2017 6:42:49 PM "Preeti Monga" < > preeti.mo...@silver-linings.org> wrote: > > Fusion is not a mailing list! Fusion is a face to face social networking >> platform, which meets regularly to bring people with and without >> disabilities together and have them develop friendships, just like a club. >> >> Warmly >> >> Preeti >> >> Preeti Monga - Chief Executive Officer >> >> >> Inspiring INCLUSION! Fostering DIGNITY! >> >> >> Mobile : 91 9871701646 >> Landline : 011 22781446 >> E-mail : preeti.mo...@silver-linings.org /preeti.mo...@gmail.com >> Website : www.silver-linings.org >> Our Services: Recruitment , Trainings- Unique Motivation Programmes, >> Diversity & Inclusion, Prevention of Sexual Harassment >> Connect With Us : >> >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On >> Behalf >> Of Dr Yusuf Vohra >> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 18:21 >> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning >> the disabled. >> Subject: Re: [AI] Regarding dating >> >> What is fugen? Is it mailing list? >> >> >> On January 20, 2017 5:58:55 PM "Preeti Monga" >> wrote: >> >> You can join Fusion! This is one such group where there is all the fun >>> things we do and you can be a part of the same! >>> Call me for more information! >>> >>> Warmly >>> Preeti >>> >>> Preeti Monga - Chief Executive Officer >>> >>> >>> Inspiring INCLUSION! Fostering DIGNITY! >>> >>> >>> Mobile : 91 9871701646 >>> Landline : 011 22781446 >>> E-mail : preeti.mo...@silver-linings.org /preeti.mo...@gmail.com >>> Website : www.silver-linings.org >>> Our Services: Recruitment , Trainings- Unique Motivation Programmes, >>> Diversity & Inclusion, Prevention of Sexual Harassment >>> Connect With Us : >>> >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On >>> >> Behalf >> >>> Of Lokesh Naik >>> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 16:18 >>> To: accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in; >>> accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>> Subject: [AI] Regarding dating >>> >>> Hello friends, This is Lokesh. I have one thought regarding dating >>> friends. actually lots of clubs are there for sighted people, but for >>> we kind of people like visually challenged friends we do not have any >>> clubs or any other institutions for dating. dating means not only sex >>> or other but we want some fun and other kind of enjoyment like >>> entertainement source we need so at least if anybody have interest >>> means we will only do some groups and we can enjoy ourselves in this >>> society with happy and great pleasure so why cann't we do friends >>> if anybody interested in this line means please,please feel free to >>> contact me we will do some groups together in this society. please >>> don't feel bad, we are also human beeings so we want all kind of >>> pleasure to live in this society so please all the ladies and >>> gentlemens think into this once. 08028386508. >>> >>> >>> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility >>> of >>> mobile phones / Tabs on: >>> >>> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.acces >> sindia_accessind >> >>> ia.org.in >>> >>> >>> Search for old postings at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >>> >>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>> >>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>> >> please >> >>> visit the list home page at >>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_acces >>> sindia.org.in >>> >>> >>> Disclaimer: >>> 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of >>> >> the >> >>> person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; >>> >>> 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the >>> mails >>> sent through this mailing list.. >>> >>> >>> >>> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility >>> of >>> >> >> mobile phones / Tabs on: >>> >>> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.acces >> sindia_accessind >> ia.org.in >> >>> >>> >>> Search for old postings at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >>> >>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>> >>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>> please visit the list home page at >>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_acces >>> sindia.org.in >>> >>> >>> Disclaimer: >>> 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the
Re: [AI] Regarding dating
So how to connect with it? On January 20, 2017 6:42:49 PM "Preeti Monga"wrote: Fusion is not a mailing list! Fusion is a face to face social networking platform, which meets regularly to bring people with and without disabilities together and have them develop friendships, just like a club. Warmly Preeti Preeti Monga - Chief Executive Officer Inspiring INCLUSION! Fostering DIGNITY! Mobile : 91 9871701646 Landline : 011 22781446 E-mail : preeti.mo...@silver-linings.org /preeti.mo...@gmail.com Website : www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Recruitment , Trainings- Unique Motivation Programmes, Diversity & Inclusion, Prevention of Sexual Harassment Connect With Us : -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Dr Yusuf Vohra Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 18:21 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Regarding dating What is fugen? Is it mailing list? On January 20, 2017 5:58:55 PM "Preeti Monga" wrote: You can join Fusion! This is one such group where there is all the fun things we do and you can be a part of the same! Call me for more information! Warmly Preeti Preeti Monga - Chief Executive Officer Inspiring INCLUSION! Fostering DIGNITY! Mobile : 91 9871701646 Landline : 011 22781446 E-mail : preeti.mo...@silver-linings.org /preeti.mo...@gmail.com Website : www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Recruitment , Trainings- Unique Motivation Programmes, Diversity & Inclusion, Prevention of Sexual Harassment Connect With Us : -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Lokesh Naik Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 16:18 To: accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in; accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] Regarding dating Hello friends, This is Lokesh. I have one thought regarding dating friends. actually lots of clubs are there for sighted people, but for we kind of people like visually challenged friends we do not have any clubs or any other institutions for dating. dating means not only sex or other but we want some fun and other kind of enjoyment like entertainement source we need so at least if anybody have interest means we will only do some groups and we can enjoy ourselves in this society with happy and great pleasure so why cann't we do friends if anybody interested in this line means please,please feel free to contact me we will do some groups together in this society. please don't feel bad, we are also human beeings so we want all kind of pleasure to live in this society so please all the ladies and gentlemens think into this once. 08028386508. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessind ia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessind ia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessind ia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at
[AI] book
Dear Friends, can any body share "Modern India" authored by Bipin Chandra? Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] Regarding dating
Fusion is not a mailing list! Fusion is a face to face social networking platform, which meets regularly to bring people with and without disabilities together and have them develop friendships, just like a club. Warmly Preeti Preeti Monga - Chief Executive Officer Inspiring INCLUSION! Fostering DIGNITY! Mobile : 91 9871701646 Landline : 011 22781446 E-mail : preeti.mo...@silver-linings.org /preeti.mo...@gmail.com Website : www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Recruitment , Trainings- Unique Motivation Programmes, Diversity & Inclusion, Prevention of Sexual Harassment Connect With Us : -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Dr Yusuf Vohra Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 18:21 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Regarding dating What is fugen? Is it mailing list? On January 20, 2017 5:58:55 PM "Preeti Monga"wrote: > You can join Fusion! This is one such group where there is all the fun > things we do and you can be a part of the same! > Call me for more information! > > Warmly > Preeti > > Preeti Monga - Chief Executive Officer > > > Inspiring INCLUSION! Fostering DIGNITY! > > > Mobile : 91 9871701646 > Landline : 011 22781446 > E-mail : preeti.mo...@silver-linings.org /preeti.mo...@gmail.com > Website : www.silver-linings.org > Our Services: Recruitment , Trainings- Unique Motivation Programmes, > Diversity & Inclusion, Prevention of Sexual Harassment > Connect With Us : > > > > -Original Message- > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf > Of Lokesh Naik > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 16:18 > To: accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in; accessindia@accessindia.org.in > Subject: [AI] Regarding dating > > Hello friends, This is Lokesh. I have one thought regarding dating > friends. actually lots of clubs are there for sighted people, but for > we kind of people like visually challenged friends we do not have any > clubs or any other institutions for dating. dating means not only sex > or other but we want some fun and other kind of enjoyment like > entertainement source we need so at least if anybody have interest > means we will only do some groups and we can enjoy ourselves in this > society with happy and great pleasure so why cann't we do friends > if anybody interested in this line means please,please feel free to > contact me we will do some groups together in this society. please > don't feel bad, we are also human beeings so we want all kind of > pleasure to live in this society so please all the ladies and > gentlemens think into this once. 08028386508. > > > Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of > mobile phones / Tabs on: > http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessind > ia.org.in > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the > person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails > sent through this mailing list.. > > > > Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of > mobile phones / Tabs on: > http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessind ia.org.in > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of > the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails > sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessind ia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home
Re: [AI] Regarding dating
What is fugen? Is it mailing list? On January 20, 2017 5:58:55 PM "Preeti Monga"wrote: You can join Fusion! This is one such group where there is all the fun things we do and you can be a part of the same! Call me for more information! Warmly Preeti Preeti Monga - Chief Executive Officer Inspiring INCLUSION! Fostering DIGNITY! Mobile : 91 9871701646 Landline : 011 22781446 E-mail : preeti.mo...@silver-linings.org /preeti.mo...@gmail.com Website : www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Recruitment , Trainings- Unique Motivation Programmes, Diversity & Inclusion, Prevention of Sexual Harassment Connect With Us : -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Lokesh Naik Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 16:18 To: accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in; accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] Regarding dating Hello friends, This is Lokesh. I have one thought regarding dating friends. actually lots of clubs are there for sighted people, but for we kind of people like visually challenged friends we do not have any clubs or any other institutions for dating. dating means not only sex or other but we want some fun and other kind of enjoyment like entertainement source we need so at least if anybody have interest means we will only do some groups and we can enjoy ourselves in this society with happy and great pleasure so why cann't we do friends if anybody interested in this line means please,please feel free to contact me we will do some groups together in this society. please don't feel bad, we are also human beeings so we want all kind of pleasure to live in this society so please all the ladies and gentlemens think into this once. 08028386508. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessind ia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] Regarding dating
You can join Fusion! This is one such group where there is all the fun things we do and you can be a part of the same! Call me for more information! Warmly Preeti Preeti Monga - Chief Executive Officer Inspiring INCLUSION! Fostering DIGNITY! Mobile : 91 9871701646 Landline : 011 22781446 E-mail : preeti.mo...@silver-linings.org /preeti.mo...@gmail.com Website : www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Recruitment , Trainings- Unique Motivation Programmes, Diversity & Inclusion, Prevention of Sexual Harassment Connect With Us : -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Lokesh Naik Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 16:18 To: accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in; accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] Regarding dating Hello friends, This is Lokesh. I have one thought regarding dating friends. actually lots of clubs are there for sighted people, but for we kind of people like visually challenged friends we do not have any clubs or any other institutions for dating. dating means not only sex or other but we want some fun and other kind of enjoyment like entertainement source we need so at least if anybody have interest means we will only do some groups and we can enjoy ourselves in this society with happy and great pleasure so why cann't we do friends if anybody interested in this line means please,please feel free to contact me we will do some groups together in this society. please don't feel bad, we are also human beeings so we want all kind of pleasure to live in this society so please all the ladies and gentlemens think into this once. 08028386508. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessind ia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] Daily Eyeway Alerts
Hi Eyeway team, you have not properly cleared that with whom we can contact to get the RPD Bill of braille Version for an individual. Please share the proper Email ID or actual address directly to my mailbox: rd0...@gmail.com On 1/20/17, Eyeway Helpdeskwrote: > Dear All: > > Greetings from theNational Eyeway Helpdesk > > Please, follow below the Daily Eyeway Alerts: > > 1. News: > > Bus for rehabilitation of blind drives into Bengaluru. > > BENGALURU: A city-based hospital Sankara Eye Hospital has launched a > customised bus to help with the rehabilitation of visually challenged. > The bus is equipped to counsel and train people. > > It will visit villages and centers within 100 kilometers radius of the > city to provide “comprehensive rehabilitation services”. > > Named ‘Maitri’, the bus is meant to bring help to the doorstep and > help visually impaired people lead an independent life. Microsoft has > contributed around Rs 75 lakhs towards this project. Source: > http://www.newindianexpress.com/cities/bengaluru/2017/jan/19/bus-for-rehabilitation-of-blind-drives-into-bengaluru-1561027.html. > More at http://www.eyeway.org/?q=bus-rehabilitation-blind-drives-bengaluru > > Rights of Persons with Disabilities Act 2016 in English is ready in > Braille for sale. For institutions and libraries it will cost Rs. > 128/- per copy while for individuals the cost shall be Rs. 96/- only. > In case you or your visually impaired friends need a copy of the Act, > please advise them to contact this office. > > 2. Circular > > Circular issued by the Punjab National Bank directing their branches > to provide facility of ATM, cheque book,credit card etc. to visually > impaired persons. More at > http://www.eyeway.org/sites/default/files/dbd2016091.pdf > > 3. Job > > One post as Statistical Officer and one post as Medical Social Worker > for Low Vision in North Eastern Indira Gandhi Regional Institute of > Health and Medical Sciences, Shillong. Qualification: (i) Statistical > Officer - 1. Post Graduate degree in Statistics from a recognized > University. 2. Post Graduate Diploma in Computer Application (PGDCA) > from a recognized Institution. 3. Two years experience in statistical > work related to the field of health preferably in a Medical Institute. > . Age Limit: 35 years. (ii) Medical Social Worker- 1. Master degree > in Social Work/Applied Sociology from a recognized University 2. One > year practical experience as Social Worker with a Government > Organization in a health related field or reputed Welfare or Health > Agencies recognized by Government dealing with Medical/ Public Health > Service. Age Limit: 35 years. Applications sent to the “Recruitment > Cell, Establishment Section - I”, North Eastern Indira Gandhi Regional > Institute of Health and Medical Sciences, Mawdiangdiang, Shillong - > 793018 SUPERSCRIBING “Application for the post of …..”. Prescribed > proforma of application form can be downloaded in PDF format from > Institute’s website http:/www.neigrihms.gov.in. Last date 13th > February. More at http://www.eyeway.org/?q=jobs > -- > With warm regards, Helpdesk Team! > Toll free: 1800 300 20469 > Working days: Monday-Friday, 10 a.m.-5 p.m. > Helpdesk: e...@eyeway.org > Website: www.eyeway.org > Office Phone: 011-26472582 > You can stay connected with us on > What'sApp: Eyeway-9968329329 > Facebook: facebook/projecteyeway > Twitter: @friendsofeyeway > Youtube: www.youtube.com/user/eyewayindia > “Courage doesn’t always roar. Sometimes courage is the little voice at > the end of the day that says I’ll try again tomorrow.”―Mary Anne > Radmacher > > > Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of > mobile phones / Tabs on: > http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the > person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails > sent through this mailing list.. > Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home
[AI] Regarding dating
Hello friends, This is Lokesh. I have one thought regarding dating friends. actually lots of clubs are there for sighted people, but for we kind of people like visually challenged friends we do not have any clubs or any other institutions for dating. dating means not only sex or other but we want some fun and other kind of enjoyment like entertainement source we need so at least if anybody have interest means we will only do some groups and we can enjoy ourselves in this society with happy and great pleasure so why cann't we do friends if anybody interested in this line means please,please feel free to contact me we will do some groups together in this society. please don't feel bad, we are also human beeings so we want all kind of pleasure to live in this society so please all the ladies and gentlemens think into this once. 08028386508. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
[AI] Daily Eyeway Alerts
Dear All: Greetings from theNational Eyeway Helpdesk Please, follow below the Daily Eyeway Alerts: 1. News: Bus for rehabilitation of blind drives into Bengaluru. BENGALURU: A city-based hospital Sankara Eye Hospital has launched a customised bus to help with the rehabilitation of visually challenged. The bus is equipped to counsel and train people. It will visit villages and centers within 100 kilometers radius of the city to provide “comprehensive rehabilitation services”. Named ‘Maitri’, the bus is meant to bring help to the doorstep and help visually impaired people lead an independent life. Microsoft has contributed around Rs 75 lakhs towards this project. Source: http://www.newindianexpress.com/cities/bengaluru/2017/jan/19/bus-for-rehabilitation-of-blind-drives-into-bengaluru-1561027.html. More at http://www.eyeway.org/?q=bus-rehabilitation-blind-drives-bengaluru Rights of Persons with Disabilities Act 2016 in English is ready in Braille for sale. For institutions and libraries it will cost Rs. 128/- per copy while for individuals the cost shall be Rs. 96/- only. In case you or your visually impaired friends need a copy of the Act, please advise them to contact this office. 2. Circular Circular issued by the Punjab National Bank directing their branches to provide facility of ATM, cheque book,credit card etc. to visually impaired persons. More at http://www.eyeway.org/sites/default/files/dbd2016091.pdf 3. Job One post as Statistical Officer and one post as Medical Social Worker for Low Vision in North Eastern Indira Gandhi Regional Institute of Health and Medical Sciences, Shillong. Qualification: (i) Statistical Officer - 1. Post Graduate degree in Statistics from a recognized University. 2. Post Graduate Diploma in Computer Application (PGDCA) from a recognized Institution. 3. Two years experience in statistical work related to the field of health preferably in a Medical Institute. . Age Limit: 35 years. (ii) Medical Social Worker- 1. Master degree in Social Work/Applied Sociology from a recognized University 2. One year practical experience as Social Worker with a Government Organization in a health related field or reputed Welfare or Health Agencies recognized by Government dealing with Medical/ Public Health Service. Age Limit: 35 years. Applications sent to the “Recruitment Cell, Establishment Section - I”, North Eastern Indira Gandhi Regional Institute of Health and Medical Sciences, Mawdiangdiang, Shillong - 793018 SUPERSCRIBING “Application for the post of …..”. Prescribed proforma of application form can be downloaded in PDF format from Institute’s website http:/www.neigrihms.gov.in. Last date 13th February. More at http://www.eyeway.org/?q=jobs -- With warm regards, Helpdesk Team! Toll free: 1800 300 20469 Working days: Monday-Friday, 10 a.m.-5 p.m. Helpdesk: e...@eyeway.org Website: www.eyeway.org Office Phone: 011-26472582 You can stay connected with us on What'sApp: Eyeway-9968329329 Facebook: facebook/projecteyeway Twitter: @friendsofeyeway Youtube: www.youtube.com/user/eyewayindia “Courage doesn’t always roar. Sometimes courage is the little voice at the end of the day that says I’ll try again tomorrow.”―Mary Anne Radmacher Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] suggestions: good and accessible anti-viress
The below Link is self-explanatory. https://www.freedomscientific.com/Services/TrainingAndCertification/WebinarDetail/F0047 On 1/20/17, shankar shanwrote: > hi, kaspersky does not support much with screen readers. > > > On 1/20/17, nandhees waran wrote: >> hi >> kaspersky antivirus is best one >> >> On 1/18/17, Ajay Minocha wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> Quickheal antivirus pro is the best one. >>> >>> HTH, >>> Ajay >>> >>> On 1/18/17, Sanchit Katiyar wrote: Dear friends, I wanted to purchase an anti-viress for My laptop. I am using Windows Seven 32 bits. Please suggest me a good and accesible anti-viress. -- Best Regards, Sanchit Katiyar Mobile No.: +91 9013816320. Email: sanchitkatiya...@gmail.com Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Ajay Minocha >>> Mob : +91-9584076767 >>> E mail : ajayminoc...@gmail.com >>> p13aj...@iimidr.ac.in >>> Skype: ajayminocha2 >>> >>> >>> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility >>> of >>> mobile phones / Tabs on: >>> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>> >>> >>> Search for old postings at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >>> >>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>> >>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>> please >>> visit the list home page at >>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>> >>> >>> Disclaimer: >>> 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of >>> the >>> person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; >>> >>> 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the >>> mails >>> sent through this mailing list.. >>> >> >> >> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility >> of >> mobile phones / Tabs on: >> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> >> >> Search for old postings at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >> >> To unsubscribe send a message to >> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >> with the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> please >> visit the list home page at >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> >> >> Disclaimer: >> 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of >> the >> person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; >> >> 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the >> mails >> sent through this mailing list.. >> > > > -- > jammed and internet hanged?Reach through the following means: > mobile: +91 9599194749 > whats app: +91 7795927572 > skype: Shankar.a > email: shankarsai...@gmail.com > Thanks and regards > Shankar > *ACCESSIBILITY AND USABILITY TESTER AT HCL TECHNOLOGIES * > -- jammed and internet hanged?Reach through the following means: mobile: +91 9599194749 whats app: +91 7795927572 skype: Shankar.a email: shankarsai...@gmail.com Thanks and regards Shankar *ACCESSIBILITY AND USABILITY TESTER AT HCL TECHNOLOGIES * Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] suggestions: good and accessible anti-viress
hi, kaspersky does not support much with screen readers. On 1/20/17, nandhees waranwrote: > hi > kaspersky antivirus is best one > > On 1/18/17, Ajay Minocha wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Quickheal antivirus pro is the best one. >> >> HTH, >> Ajay >> >> On 1/18/17, Sanchit Katiyar wrote: >>> Dear friends, >>> >>> I wanted to purchase an anti-viress for My laptop. I am using Windows >>> Seven 32 bits. Please suggest me a good and accesible anti-viress. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Best Regards, >>> Sanchit Katiyar >>> >>> Mobile No.: >>> +91 9013816320. >>> >>> Email: >>> sanchitkatiya...@gmail.com >>> >>> >>> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility >>> of >>> mobile phones / Tabs on: >>> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>> >>> >>> Search for old postings at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >>> >>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>> >>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>> please >>> visit the list home page at >>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>> >>> >>> Disclaimer: >>> 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of >>> the >>> person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; >>> >>> 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the >>> mails >>> sent through this mailing list.. >>> >> >> >> -- >> Ajay Minocha >> Mob : +91-9584076767 >> E mail : ajayminoc...@gmail.com >> p13aj...@iimidr.ac.in >> Skype: ajayminocha2 >> >> >> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility >> of >> mobile phones / Tabs on: >> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> >> >> Search for old postings at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >> >> To unsubscribe send a message to >> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >> with the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> please >> visit the list home page at >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> >> >> Disclaimer: >> 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of >> the >> person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; >> >> 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the >> mails >> sent through this mailing list.. >> > > > Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of > mobile phones / Tabs on: > http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the > person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails > sent through this mailing list.. > -- jammed and internet hanged?Reach through the following means: mobile: +91 9599194749 whats app: +91 7795927572 skype: Shankar.a email: shankarsai...@gmail.com Thanks and regards Shankar *ACCESSIBILITY AND USABILITY TESTER AT HCL TECHNOLOGIES * Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
[AI] Alpaiwalla and Neelum Kanga Award - 2017
On Thursday, January 19, 2017 National Association for the Blind India on it’s 66th foundation day presented following awards. Rustom Merwanji Alpaiwalla Memorial Award – 2017 in the Professional Category to Dr. Anuradha Dalmiya Director National Institute for the Visually Challenged, Dehradun and in in the Voluntary Category to 1. Dr. Nagendranath Nagar President, NAB Dahod-Panchmahals Dist. Branch 2. Advocate Shri Uday Warunjikar Advocate, Mumbai High Court Neelum Khurshed Kanga Award - 2017 to 1. Ms. Tanya Balsara Proprietor Tanya Computer Centre Mumbai 2. Ms. Meenal Singhvi President-cum-Director Udaan Welfare Society Secunderabad 3. Dr. Kritika Purohit Mumbai. Bachelor of Physiotherapy (B P Th.) (first government-certified visually challenged doctor in the country from the Maharashtra State Council for Occupational Therapy and Physiotherapy) Congratulations to all the awardees. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] suggestions: good and accessible anti-viress
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