[AI] Looking for Fifa World Cup Commentary.

[Amiyo Biswas]

Hello,

Is there any radio or tv channel on the internet where I can listen to football 
world cup ohn my laptop or phone?

With best regards
Amiyo Biswas
Cell: 9433464329



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Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines

[Asudani, Rajesh]

Right to take one's own scribe must be retained at all cost.
In this, our advocacy has succeeded so far, it seems.

One step junior than the candidate must be clarified to mean one year and not 
one degree.

Yes, I agree that UPSC or any other body, instead of harping on the cheating by 
blind by taking professsional scribes, should disqualify the people doing so.
Have they ever done so?

If not, how can they say officially that professional scribes are taken?
What proof they have?

Kanchan, what is your experience?


Exams, if computerized, must be made accessible in the long run.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Rakesh Sharma
Sent: 10 July 2018 06:42
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. 
Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines

Hello friends, Please save this ruling earned after the long battle.
If we lose right to take own scribes then the fate of our destiny will be at 
the hands of these government officials and not our studies. In UPSC paper, you 
can’t expect a 12th pass student to write 9 papers in a row for 5 days. It is 
impossible. He/she is not equipped enough for writing in a speed which is 
required and for 5 days regularly. In college exams also, 12th pass students 
cannot right those lengthy papers. So if scribe has to be junior, it should be 
1 grade junior not degree junior. Moreover, there should not be any other 
requirements like  marks of scribe etc. if people are cheating, why they don’t 
disqualify the candidates. In those 3 or 4 years, I haven’t heard a single case 
of disqualification. It is their flexibility which allows people to cheat in 
the exams but now if so draconian rulings are accepted all those are preparing 
hard would be facing difficulty never before. Why don’t they videograph the 
during the exam and disqualify the candidate based on that. The reality is that 
people have no fear of  cheating because they don’t disqualify any candidates. 
There are already less jobs advertised by the government and if these rulings 
are applied no one will be able to clear the exams and whatever is advertised 
would remain unfulfilled and the same is desired by these officials.
It is my humble request to Kanchan ma’am and others who are fighting for the 
rights that please do save these rulings in spirit at least if not in letter 
for the better future of our fellow beings.


On 09/07/2018, Krishna Bodawala  wrote:
> same thing happen with me last year in C.S  institution exams they
> provided me the scribe but he was of gujarat mediam student appearing
> for my english exams
>
> On 7/2/18, Mohib Anwar Rafay  wrote:
>> The option of choosing own scribe must always be provided,
>> nevertheless few qualification restrictions may be there. Even I have
>> been victim of UPSC and Uttar pradesh PSC bad scribes. As they gave
>> me clerk who was not even able to pronounce the english words. and in
>> PSC they allow only 12 class standard student for public service
>> commission examination. Even for the exam of civil judge, they
>> allowed only maximum 12th class student, isn't injustice to seriously
>> preparing candidate?
>>
>> On 7/2/18, Kanchan Pamnani  wrote:
>>> Himanshu and all on this group. I have read nearly everyones
>>> comments. I do feel there is a problem in the understanding of the
>>> problem and the solution. Just give me a day or  two to respond to
>>> all the queries and comments. It will take me a couple of hours to
>>> collate everyones views.
>>> Kanchan
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>>> Behalf Of Himanshu Sahu
>>> Sent: 01 July 2018 23:06
>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerning the disabled.
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines
>>>
>>> Though I accept that the libral scribe guidelines are being misused
>>> by many of the blind candidates in UPSC, IBPS, RBI, and various
>>> other competitive exams  (I am one of the victims of this practice,
>>> as they have raised the cut-offs of all competitive exams), still I
>>> believe that if the new guidelines will be implemented, we will be
>>> throne back in the dark era of pre-Feb, 2012, where SSC, Railways
>>> etc. were providing peons, clerical and even sometimes below 10th
>>> standard passed (other) staffs as writers during exams.
>>> I remember that during my graduation, how badly I was running behind
>>> NGOs for arranging writers having undergraduate qualifications, and
>>> how big-headed heads of NGO here in Kolkata were even not picking my
>>> phone calls.
>>>
>>> Remember that we are going to loose our hard-fought victory on a
>>> flimsy groung that few are misusing writer guidelines and using
>>> improper means...
>>> Any employer if able to bear expenditure and having resources to
>>> provide their own writers to blind candidates, can easily instead
>>> spend resources a

Re: [AI] FIX : IndianRail on the internet - issues

[bhawani shankar verma]

even the sighted people are facing dificulties while login. it is not easy 
to find login button or link on that page. somehow you can manage it with 
NVDA, but, I am not sure it works ever on your system. later you have to 
switch on jaws because after login NVDA don't fully support the page. 
switching between screen reader is not a solution. My railway station is 
just a KM away from my office, hence, online ticketing is not an issue for 
me in particular in past or present. in past I was discussing about the 
CAPTCHA in IRCTC in this forum, nobody took interest on this matter. later I 
filed a petition in the court of CCPD and OTP came on force in the result of 
that order. Presently I constently written Mr. Kaul all india confederation 
of the blind. CCPD have no contempt jurisdiction, hence, AICB filed a fresh 
petition against IRCTC. In this context, I can say that accessibility is not 
an issue for me, I am happy with counter ticket.
Mr. prashant drafted a letter and posted in accessindia. How many of us have 
sent a hard copy or email of that letter to the concerned officials. till 
now their inbox or their dispatch in register should be out of space. We 
have also requested IRCTC and also in CCPD petition, that IRCTC should 
reload their old interface, until the accessibility issue resolve. a strong 
activism is needed regarding the accessibility of websites and payment 
gateways. there should be a consolidated order regarding accessibility.





-Original Message- 
From: Rohiet A. Patil

Sent: Monday, July 09, 2018 10:37 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled.

Subject: Re: [AI] FIX : IndianRail on the internet - issues

Bhavani sir,
You mention that you can access the login page with sighted help. But when I
tri to open the website with the sighted help, I was told that the currsor
is only moving but no page is appearing.
Rohiet
Cell: +919850831774

-Original Message- 
From: bhawani shankar verma

Sent: Monday, July 09, 2018 7:12 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] FIX : IndianRail on the internet - issues

The points you have mentioned will be encountered after login in to IRCTC.
where is the login field? I could manage to login in IRCTC with sighted help
and also got both login and booking OTP within 3 seconds. so, OTP is no
issue for me. without opening the lock, how you can enter. I request you all
to please simplify the procedure. in your message nothing about the login
page. first rectify that login field. also request to please don't suggest
to switch between screen reader as required. the website must be accessible
across the screen reader. CCPD have sent notice to IRCTC, ministry of rail
and railway board regarding the matter.



-Original Message- 
From: Vaishnavi Jayakumar

Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2018 9:17 PM
To: AccessIndia.org.in
Subject: [AI] FIX : IndianRail on the internet - issues

Hi all,

Was aware of the correspondence

by many on the recently redesigned IRCTC

website (beta )
and so gatecrashed CRIS
 when in Delhi a
few days back - they by the way (as I have been mentioning repeatedly)
handle the world's largest online reservation system for IRCTC.

The person I contacted  out of the blue (S.J. Sinha) was supposed to be in
charge of Passenger Reservation System (PRS) which is now run by Vinod
Bhatia. S.J. Sinha heads Web Apps - all the 40+ subdomains of
indianrail.gov.in, mobile apps etc. Anyway, the day I gatecrashed, Mr.
Sinha was at Railway Bhavan and said someone else would meet me. That was
Mr. Pitamber Verma - the Chief Project Engineer / Web Applications who was
welcoming and helpful. Mr. Amit Jha from his team also joined us. However
anything to do with the ticketing side of things is handled by the PRS team
- Mr. Yogendra joined from that team.

All I had grasped about the accessibility problems was the missing OTP
option - so I mentioned that. Yogendra said it had been fixed a couple of
days earlier. As I was stumped after that (and more importantly WAVE and
aChecker couldn't run reports on either www.irctc.co.in or
www.indianrail.gov.in ) I messaged Srinivasu and asked if all was well on
the IRCTC booking front. He said it was not OK and promised to send inputs
later that evening as he was travelling.

I then called Prashant from NAB. He briefly discussed some of the issues
still preventing independent booking with Mr. Yogendra. He was not free to
come over the next morning to fix things then an

Re: [AI] FIX : IndianRail on the internet - issues

[bhawani shankar verma]

yes many times, remain same.


-Original Message- 
From: Vaishnavi Jayakumar

Sent: Monday, July 09, 2018 10:03 PM
To: Access Forum
Cc: Mukesh Sharma Access Delhi
Subject: Re: [AI] FIX : IndianRail on the internet - issues

Dear Vinod / BS Verma,

This whole email was regarding the login process! Have you checked this
over the last 24 hours?

Again, I do not know the tech behind this, Mukesh Sharma can best clarify
these doubts.

If the issues I'd mentioned in the email are still preventing IRCTC desktop
login using a screen reader then do let us know so it can be addressed.
Vinod, have not seen the mobile app, let's address that next stage?
Re: [AI] FIX : IndianRail on the internet - issues
<https://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=accessindia@accessindia.org.in&q=subject:%22Re%5C%3A+%5C%5BAI%5C%5D+FIX+%5C%3A+IndianRail+on+the+internet+%5C-+issues%22&o=newest>

Vinod Benjamin
<https://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=accessindia@accessindia.org.in&q=from:%22Vinod+Benjamin%22>
Mon, 09 Jul 2018 04:42:01 -0700
<https://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=accessindia@accessindia.org.in&q=date:20180709>

Dear Vishnavi,

Thanks for that eloberate mail on IRCTC accessibility ,
really Appreciate it ,
it would be great the Login page is also addressed, have tried to
access the portel with  loging in by the sighted help still nothing is
accessible.

in Androyd version : it would be great if they could make the captcha
to be an OTP or accessible Captcha that would be effective at least.
all the other interphases are accessible in Androyd version, at least
to my knowledge ,
the only catch in the APK is tapping some were to login the IRCTC APK.
Regards,
Vinod Benjamin.

On 7/9/18, bhawani shankar verma  wrote:

The points you have mentioned will be encountered after login in to IRCTC.
where is the login field? I could manage to login in IRCTC with sighted 
help


and also got both login and booking OTP within 3 seconds. so, OTP is no
issue for me. without opening the lock, how you can enter. I request you 
all


to please simplify the procedure. in your message nothing about the login
page. first rectify that login field. also request to please don't suggest
to switch between screen reader as required. the website must be 
accessible


across the screen reader. CCPD have sent notice to IRCTC, ministry of rail
and railway board regarding the matter.



-Original Message-
From: Vaishnavi Jayakumar
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2018 9:17 PM
To: AccessIndia.org.in
Subject: [AI] FIX : IndianRail on the internet - issues

Hi all,

Was aware of the correspondence
<https://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=accessindia%40accessindia.org.in&q=subject:%22%5C%5BAI%5C%5D+IRCTC+challenges%5C%21%22&o=newest>
by many on the recently redesigned IRCTC
<https://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=accessindia@accessindia.org.in&q=subject:%22Re%5C%3A+%5C%5BAI%5C%5D+IRCTC+new+website%2C+looking+confusing%2C+any+clue%5C%3F%22&o=newest>
website (beta 
<http://pib.nic.in/PressReleaseIframePage.aspx?PRID=1533835>)

and so gatecrashed CRIS
<http://cris.org.in/criswebsite/crissite/index.jsp#about> when in Delhi a
few days back - they by the way (as I have been mentioning repeatedly)
handle the world's largest online reservation system for IRCTC.

The person I contacted  out of the blue (S.J. Sinha) was supposed to be in
charge of Passenger Reservation System (PRS) which is now run by Vinod
Bhatia. S.J. Sinha heads Web Apps - all the 40+ subdomains of
indianrail.gov.in, mobile apps etc. Anyway, the day I gatecrashed, Mr.
Sinha was at Railway Bhavan and said someone else would meet me. That was
Mr. Pitamber Verma - the Chief Project Engineer / Web Applications who was
welcoming and helpful. Mr. Amit Jha from his team also joined us. However
anything to do with the ticketing side of things is handled by the PRS 
team

- Mr. Yogendra joined from that team.

All I had grasped about the accessibility problems was the missing OTP
option - so I mentioned that. Yogendra said it had been fixed a couple of
days earlier. As I was stumped after that (and more importantly WAVE and
aChecker couldn't run reports on either www.irctc.co.in or
www.indianrail.gov.in ) I messaged Srinivasu and asked if all was well on
the IRCTC booking front. He said it was not OK and promised to send inputs
later that evening as he was travelling.

I then called Prashant from NAB. He briefly discussed some of the issues
still preventing independent booking with Mr. Yogendra. He was not free to
come over the next morning to fix things then and there with Mr. Yogendra
but promised that someone else would come along with a screen-reading
laptop. I bounced the idea of an understanding accessibility workshop with
Mr. Verma - he was enthusiastic. I was less enthusiastic about mobile apps
and said a responsive version of the website with offline functionality,
and camera / GPS access was more than enou

Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines

[Rakesh Sharma]

Hello friends, Please save this ruling earned after the long battle.
If we lose right to take own scribes then the fate of our destiny will
be at the hands of these government officials and not our studies. In
UPSC paper, you can’t expect a 12th pass student to write 9 papers in
a row for 5 days. It is impossible. He/she is not equipped enough for
writing in a speed which is required and for 5 days regularly. In
college exams also, 12th pass students cannot right those lengthy
papers. So if scribe has to be junior, it should be 1 grade junior not
degree junior. Moreover, there should not be any other requirements
like  marks of scribe etc. if people are cheating, why they don’t
disqualify the candidates. In those 3 or 4 years, I haven’t heard a
single case of disqualification. It is their flexibility which allows
people to cheat in the exams but now if so draconian rulings are
accepted all those are preparing hard would be facing difficulty never
before. Why don’t they videograph the during the exam and disqualify
the candidate based on that. The reality is that people have no fear
of  cheating because they don’t disqualify any candidates. There are
already less jobs advertised by the government and if these rulings
are applied no one will be able to clear the exams and whatever is
advertised would remain unfulfilled and the same is desired by these
officials.
It is my humble request to Kanchan ma’am and others who are fighting
for the rights that please do save these rulings in spirit at least if
not in letter for the better future of our fellow beings.


On 09/07/2018, Krishna Bodawala  wrote:
> same thing happen with me last year in C.S  institution exams they
> provided me the scribe but he was of gujarat mediam student appearing
> for my english exams
>
> On 7/2/18, Mohib Anwar Rafay  wrote:
>> The option of choosing own scribe must always be provided,
>> nevertheless few qualification restrictions may be there. Even I have
>> been victim of UPSC and Uttar pradesh PSC bad scribes. As they gave me
>> clerk who was not even able to pronounce the english words. and in PSC
>> they allow only 12 class standard student for public service
>> commission examination. Even for the exam of civil judge, they allowed
>> only maximum 12th class student, isn't injustice to seriously
>> preparing candidate?
>>
>> On 7/2/18, Kanchan Pamnani  wrote:
>>> Himanshu and all on this group. I have read nearly everyones comments. I
>>> do
>>> feel there is a problem in the understanding of the problem and the
>>> solution. Just give me a day or  two to respond to all the queries and
>>> comments. It will take me a couple of hours to collate everyones views.
>>> Kanchan
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Himanshu Sahu
>>> Sent: 01 July 2018 23:06
>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerning
>>> the disabled.
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines
>>>
>>> Though I accept that the libral scribe guidelines are being misused by
>>> many
>>> of the blind candidates in UPSC, IBPS, RBI, and various other competitive
>>> exams  (I am one of the victims of this practice, as they have raised the
>>> cut-offs of all competitive exams), still I believe that if the new
>>> guidelines will be implemented, we will be throne back in the dark era of
>>> pre-Feb, 2012, where SSC, Railways etc. were providing peons, clerical
>>> and
>>> even sometimes below 10th standard passed (other) staffs as writers
>>> during
>>> exams.
>>> I remember that during my graduation, how badly I was running behind NGOs
>>> for arranging writers having undergraduate qualifications, and how
>>> big-headed heads of NGO here in Kolkata were even not picking my phone
>>> calls.
>>>
>>> Remember that we are going to loose our hard-fought victory on a flimsy
>>> groung that few are misusing writer guidelines and using improper
>>> means...
>>> Any employer if able to bear expenditure and having resources to provide
>>> their own writers to blind candidates, can easily instead spend resources
>>> and expenditures on strengthening invigilation systems, providing
>>> accessible
>>> and independent exam writing environment for blind candidates.
>>>
>>> It seems that we have succumb to the bureaucratic pressure (bureaucracy,
>>> which was never willing to see disabled at par with
>>> them) and have become victim of our own distinct  "blind" elite views who
>>> feel that they are the best architect of the fate of entire blind
>>> community.
>>>
>>> I worn that, however, if the new guidelines get implemented in this very
>>> draft form, will be marred by litigations and counter litigations... And,
>>> perhaps I'll be also one of them to challenge this.
>>>
>>> My simple suggestion, instead of creating this high level drama is to
>>> make
>>> sit candidates under direct scanner of cc tv cameras and allow them to
>>> give
>>> their exams with any writ

[AI] Youtube link of radioudaan ek mulakat with former disability commissioner of haryana Mr Phool Chand Yadav

[Radio Udaan]

Youtube link of  radioudaan ek mulakat with former disability
commissioner of haryana Mr Phool Chand Yadav
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[AI] BrailleMe

[Prathamesh Bendre]

Dear AccessIndians,
Greetings from Innovision!
I read through all the mails right now regarding BrailleMe. Needless
to say, it is great to see people taking interest in this new digital
Braille buddy which will soon be guiding thousands of students and
working professionals in accessing their favorite reading material in
Braille. I would like to respond to all the feedbacks/opinions/queries
raised and expressed here. Still, if I miss out any, feel free to send
me a personal E-mail. Firstly, as far as BrailleMe is concerned, we
absolutely have no issues or negative track record dabout our
after-sales services. It is totally right on the part of the purchaser
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happy that all of you are doing it. In this mail, I will try
responding to each mail that I read individually, and this is a
collective response to them. Mr. Srinivasu sir, your suggestion is
worth thinking about. Eyeway or such platforms can really help in
spreading awareness about products like BrailleMe, and depending on
their institutional capacity, they can provide their support by acting
as a sales link for the company. Nirmal sir, what you said about the
NGOs is also not totally incorrect. Nevertheless the support provided
by the NGOs in the initial days is really instrumental in letting the
product achieve good customer reach. But Nirmal sir, I would assure
you that Innovision, with its customer-friendly and well-reputed
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neither before or after the sales. We make our best efforts to resolve
any issues that might arise, in addition to that, we also provide the
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Lastly, Mr. Aman singh, I sent you a personal E-mail on your E-mail
ID, providing you with the details about the price of the product etc.
Still, I mention it here once again, the device is currently available
for just rupees 25 thousand, exclusive of mandatory taxes, payable
under the tax regime.
Regards
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Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines

[Krishna Bodawala]

same thing happen with me last year in C.S  institution exams they
provided me the scribe but he was of gujarat mediam student appearing
for my english exams

On 7/2/18, Mohib Anwar Rafay  wrote:
> The option of choosing own scribe must always be provided,
> nevertheless few qualification restrictions may be there. Even I have
> been victim of UPSC and Uttar pradesh PSC bad scribes. As they gave me
> clerk who was not even able to pronounce the english words. and in PSC
> they allow only 12 class standard student for public service
> commission examination. Even for the exam of civil judge, they allowed
> only maximum 12th class student, isn't injustice to seriously
> preparing candidate?
>
> On 7/2/18, Kanchan Pamnani  wrote:
>> Himanshu and all on this group. I have read nearly everyones comments. I
>> do
>> feel there is a problem in the understanding of the problem and the
>> solution. Just give me a day or  two to respond to all the queries and
>> comments. It will take me a couple of hours to collate everyones views.
>> Kanchan
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Himanshu Sahu
>> Sent: 01 July 2018 23:06
>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
>> the disabled.
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines
>>
>> Though I accept that the libral scribe guidelines are being misused by
>> many
>> of the blind candidates in UPSC, IBPS, RBI, and various other competitive
>> exams  (I am one of the victims of this practice, as they have raised the
>> cut-offs of all competitive exams), still I believe that if the new
>> guidelines will be implemented, we will be throne back in the dark era of
>> pre-Feb, 2012, where SSC, Railways etc. were providing peons, clerical and
>> even sometimes below 10th standard passed (other) staffs as writers during
>> exams.
>> I remember that during my graduation, how badly I was running behind NGOs
>> for arranging writers having undergraduate qualifications, and how
>> big-headed heads of NGO here in Kolkata were even not picking my phone
>> calls.
>>
>> Remember that we are going to loose our hard-fought victory on a flimsy
>> groung that few are misusing writer guidelines and using improper means...
>> Any employer if able to bear expenditure and having resources to provide
>> their own writers to blind candidates, can easily instead spend resources
>> and expenditures on strengthening invigilation systems, providing
>> accessible
>> and independent exam writing environment for blind candidates.
>>
>> It seems that we have succumb to the bureaucratic pressure (bureaucracy,
>> which was never willing to see disabled at par with
>> them) and have become victim of our own distinct  "blind" elite views who
>> feel that they are the best architect of the fate of entire blind
>> community.
>>
>> I worn that, however, if the new guidelines get implemented in this very
>> draft form, will be marred by litigations and counter litigations... And,
>> perhaps I'll be also one of them to challenge this.
>>
>> My simple suggestion, instead of creating this high level drama is to make
>> sit candidates under direct scanner of cc tv cameras and allow them to
>> give
>> their exams with any writer (though if higher qualification than the
>> candidate, is not desirous and may be barred), and resolve the entire
>> issue.
>>
>> My sincere thanks to Kanchan Jee for her fight for protecting rights of VI
>> people... but it seems that it is going in vein.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 6/30/18, Rohiet A. Patil  wrote:
>>> Hi!
>>> A thoughtfull discussion is going on.
>>> I would like to say few things in this regard. If the compititive exam
>>> platform is made accessible, then how a VI should perform the rough
>>> work like solving reasoning and quant? Though the brail and mathamatic
>>> equipments are allove in the examination hall, It is impossible to
>>> perform all the tasks within the given timeframe.
>>> 2nd, we should not forget about the literacy rate in VI community.
>>> Submition of audio files for discriptive paper may not be a sound idea.
>>> Rohiet Patil
>>> Cell: +919850831774
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: pranaya rani
>>> Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2018 1:50 PM
>>> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerning the disabled.'
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines
>>>
>>> Best is we must be allowed to our own scribers, scribers provided by
>>> examining authorities/agencies are always substandard/unqualified, I
>>> have heard many times clerks/peons are provided as scribers, terrible!
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>>> Behalf Of Lyngdoh
>>> Sent: 28 June, 2018 1:40 PM
>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerning the disabled.
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines
>>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> Depending on institution to provide a

Re: [AI] FIX : IndianRail on the internet - issues

[Rohiet A. Patil]

Bhavani sir,
You mention that you can access the login page with sighted help. But when I 
tri to open the website with the sighted help, I was told that the currsor 
is only moving but no page is appearing.

Rohiet
Cell: +919850831774

-Original Message- 
From: bhawani shankar verma

Sent: Monday, July 09, 2018 7:12 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled.

Subject: Re: [AI] FIX : IndianRail on the internet - issues

The points you have mentioned will be encountered after login in to IRCTC.
where is the login field? I could manage to login in IRCTC with sighted help
and also got both login and booking OTP within 3 seconds. so, OTP is no
issue for me. without opening the lock, how you can enter. I request you all
to please simplify the procedure. in your message nothing about the login
page. first rectify that login field. also request to please don't suggest
to switch between screen reader as required. the website must be accessible
across the screen reader. CCPD have sent notice to IRCTC, ministry of rail
and railway board regarding the matter.



-Original Message- 
From: Vaishnavi Jayakumar

Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2018 9:17 PM
To: AccessIndia.org.in
Subject: [AI] FIX : IndianRail on the internet - issues

Hi all,

Was aware of the correspondence

by many on the recently redesigned IRCTC

website (beta )
and so gatecrashed CRIS
 when in Delhi a
few days back - they by the way (as I have been mentioning repeatedly)
handle the world's largest online reservation system for IRCTC.

The person I contacted  out of the blue (S.J. Sinha) was supposed to be in
charge of Passenger Reservation System (PRS) which is now run by Vinod
Bhatia. S.J. Sinha heads Web Apps - all the 40+ subdomains of
indianrail.gov.in, mobile apps etc. Anyway, the day I gatecrashed, Mr.
Sinha was at Railway Bhavan and said someone else would meet me. That was
Mr. Pitamber Verma - the Chief Project Engineer / Web Applications who was
welcoming and helpful. Mr. Amit Jha from his team also joined us. However
anything to do with the ticketing side of things is handled by the PRS team
- Mr. Yogendra joined from that team.

All I had grasped about the accessibility problems was the missing OTP
option - so I mentioned that. Yogendra said it had been fixed a couple of
days earlier. As I was stumped after that (and more importantly WAVE and
aChecker couldn't run reports on either www.irctc.co.in or
www.indianrail.gov.in ) I messaged Srinivasu and asked if all was well on
the IRCTC booking front. He said it was not OK and promised to send inputs
later that evening as he was travelling.

I then called Prashant from NAB. He briefly discussed some of the issues
still preventing independent booking with Mr. Yogendra. He was not free to
come over the next morning to fix things then and there with Mr. Yogendra
but promised that someone else would come along with a screen-reading
laptop. I bounced the idea of an understanding accessibility workshop with
Mr. Verma - he was enthusiastic. I was less enthusiastic about mobile apps
and said a responsive version of the website with offline functionality,
and camera / GPS access was more than enough rather than the perpetual,
expensive tweaking required by Android updates and glitches caused by
enormous variation in device size, specs and UI skin.

*WEB APPLICATIONS*
The next morning Mukesh Sharma from NAB and I reached CRIS to find that Mr.
Yogendra was busy. He suggested we meet the GM/PRS - Vinod Bhatia. We first
met S.J. Sinha who was familiar with GIGW. He was keen to have a training
but said getting money would take time. As of now Mukesh has committed for
a day workshop, the details of which need to be sent across. As Mr.
Pitamber Verma had mentioned Shaswat's name came up (from Eye-D
) - I think they have been in touch with CRIS about
accessifying / access audit. As everything is handled inhouse at CRIS, I am
guessing an occasional access report would suffice with detailed one-off
training and refreshers for new staff. Anyway, over to Prashant on that
front.

*PRS*
We then met with Mr. Satish, Yogendra's counterpart. They handle NGET
 - Next
Generation E-Ticketing - IRCTC's CONCERT, counter sales and mobile app.

First the following issues were flagged for fixes :

1) The banner ad that appears (Central Govt achievements etc) - no longer
there, they have no control and have to carry it. Mukesh said an Escape
gets rid of it, I think - whateve

Re: [AI] FIX : IndianRail on the internet - issues

[Vaishnavi Jayakumar]

Dear Vinod / BS Verma,

This whole email was regarding the login process! Have you checked this
over the last 24 hours?

Again, I do not know the tech behind this, Mukesh Sharma can best clarify
these doubts.

If the issues I'd mentioned in the email are still preventing IRCTC desktop
login using a screen reader then do let us know so it can be addressed.
Vinod, have not seen the mobile app, let's address that next stage?
Re: [AI] FIX : IndianRail on the internet - issues
<https://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=accessindia@accessindia.org.in&q=subject:%22Re%5C%3A+%5C%5BAI%5C%5D+FIX+%5C%3A+IndianRail+on+the+internet+%5C-+issues%22&o=newest>

Vinod Benjamin
<https://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=accessindia@accessindia.org.in&q=from:%22Vinod+Benjamin%22>
 Mon, 09 Jul 2018 04:42:01 -0700
<https://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=accessindia@accessindia.org.in&q=date:20180709>

Dear Vishnavi,

Thanks for that eloberate mail on IRCTC accessibility ,
really Appreciate it ,
it would be great the Login page is also addressed, have tried to
access the portel with  loging in by the sighted help still nothing is
accessible.

in Androyd version : it would be great if they could make the captcha
to be an OTP or accessible Captcha that would be effective at least.
all the other interphases are accessible in Androyd version, at least
to my knowledge ,
the only catch in the APK is tapping some were to login the IRCTC APK.
Regards,
Vinod Benjamin.

On 7/9/18, bhawani shankar verma  wrote:
> The points you have mentioned will be encountered after login in to IRCTC.
> where is the login field? I could manage to login in IRCTC with sighted help
>
> and also got both login and booking OTP within 3 seconds. so, OTP is no
> issue for me. without opening the lock, how you can enter. I request you all
>
> to please simplify the procedure. in your message nothing about the login
> page. first rectify that login field. also request to please don't suggest
> to switch between screen reader as required. the website must be accessible
>
> across the screen reader. CCPD have sent notice to IRCTC, ministry of rail
> and railway board regarding the matter.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Vaishnavi Jayakumar
> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2018 9:17 PM
> To: AccessIndia.org.in
> Subject: [AI] FIX : IndianRail on the internet - issues
>
> Hi all,
>
> Was aware of the correspondence
> <https://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=accessindia%40accessindia.org.in&q=subject:%22%5C%5BAI%5C%5D+IRCTC+challenges%5C%21%22&o=newest>
> by many on the recently redesigned IRCTC
> <https://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=accessindia@accessindia.org.in&q=subject:%22Re%5C%3A+%5C%5BAI%5C%5D+IRCTC+new+website%2C+looking+confusing%2C+any+clue%5C%3F%22&o=newest>
> website (beta <http://pib.nic.in/PressReleaseIframePage.aspx?PRID=1533835>)
> and so gatecrashed CRIS
> <http://cris.org.in/criswebsite/crissite/index.jsp#about> when in Delhi a
> few days back - they by the way (as I have been mentioning repeatedly)
> handle the world's largest online reservation system for IRCTC.
>
> The person I contacted  out of the blue (S.J. Sinha) was supposed to be in
> charge of Passenger Reservation System (PRS) which is now run by Vinod
> Bhatia. S.J. Sinha heads Web Apps - all the 40+ subdomains of
> indianrail.gov.in, mobile apps etc. Anyway, the day I gatecrashed, Mr.
> Sinha was at Railway Bhavan and said someone else would meet me. That was
> Mr. Pitamber Verma - the Chief Project Engineer / Web Applications who was
> welcoming and helpful. Mr. Amit Jha from his team also joined us. However
> anything to do with the ticketing side of things is handled by the PRS team
> - Mr. Yogendra joined from that team.
>
> All I had grasped about the accessibility problems was the missing OTP
> option - so I mentioned that. Yogendra said it had been fixed a couple of
> days earlier. As I was stumped after that (and more importantly WAVE and
> aChecker couldn't run reports on either www.irctc.co.in or
> www.indianrail.gov.in ) I messaged Srinivasu and asked if all was well on
> the IRCTC booking front. He said it was not OK and promised to send inputs
> later that evening as he was travelling.
>
> I then called Prashant from NAB. He briefly discussed some of the issues
> still preventing independent booking with Mr. Yogendra. He was not free to
> come over the next morning to fix things then and there with Mr. Yogendra
> but promised that someone else would come along with a screen-reading
> laptop. I bounced the idea of an understanding accessibility workshop with
> Mr. Verma - he was enthusiastic. I was less enthusiastic about mobile apps
> and said a responsive version of the website with offline functionality,

[AI] TRAI releases recommendations on making ICT accessible for PWDs

[Amar Jain]

The press release and the recommendations can be read here:

http://trai.gov.in/notifications/press-release/trai-releases-recommendations-making-ict-accessible-persons-disabilities

Regards,
Amar Jain

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[AI] sir/ madam it is helpfull to you???

[gopala krishna]

sir/madam it is helpful to you??
if yess
note this information save any where .
and read below given information.
sir/ madam, this information taken from
 indianrailwaynews.gov.in
dated 09/07/2018 time 6 42pm


 - that begin and conclude at the same station, according to Indian
Railways' portal - indianrail.gov.in. Circular journey tickets can be
purchased for all booking classes. A maximum of eight break journeys
are admissible on these tickets, according to Indian Railways.
Circular journey train tickets give the benefit of telescopic rates,
which are considerably lower than regular point-to-point fares.
By booking Indian Railways circular tickets, the passenger not only
saves time but also avoids the inconvenience of booking the ticket at
each leg of the journey. Indian Railways also offers the facility of
booking standard circular journey tickets. A standard circular journey
covers popular destinations for the convenience of tourists.
Here are some of the rules stipulated by Indian Railways for circular
journey tickets:
1.Once the itinerary is finalized, the passenger can approach the
Divisional Commercial Manager of the division of particular major
stations that are part of the journey. The Divisional Commercial
Manager or the station authorities then calculates the cost of the
tickets based on the itinerary. He or she also informs the Station
Manager of the same in a prescribed format.
2. Circular journey tickets can be purchased by presenting this form
at the booking office of the station where the passenger proposes to
start the journey. After purchasing the circular journey ticket, the
passenger must approach the reservation office to reserve
accommodation for various laps of journey. The passenger will then be
issued reserved journey ticket for the journey.
3. No standard circular journey tickets are issued by the Southern
Railways, an arm of Indian Railways. Only circular journey tickets can
be issued by this zone.
4. A circular journey ticket is charged for as two single journeys,
wherein the length of each single journey is taken as half of the
total distance, according to Indian Railways.
5. A 40 per cent concession for male senior citizens and 50 per cent
for female senior citizens is granted on the cost of the circular
journey tickets on travel of a minimum distance of 1,000 kilometres




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Re: [AI] Efforts towards matrimonial pursuit for blind; Suggestions invited

[madhusinghal]

Dear Alok,
I really feel very happy to read what you have written?
People should think more deeply about this subject.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Preeti Monga
Sent: Sunday, July 8, 2018 11:13 AM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Efforts towards matrimonial pursuit for blind; Suggestions
invited

Hi friends! Great subject! This is mostly put away as far as visually
impaired people are concerened!

Well said  Alok! You have put this so very nicely!

Just interact more  and look for someone who can  be your best friend and
she/he may be the right personn for you to marry. But, one has to start some
time! You have to start to take the risk, so if someone feels right to you,
just go ahead and ask her/him! It may or may not work out! If it works then
great, and if it doesn't work, then just part ways and try again!

But, please do not marry a disability or a non disability, marry a human
being! There is more chances for it to work if you marry a human
being...rather than if you marry a qualification etc!

There are great people out there and don't get into a box yourself and try
to drag others into the box as well. 

Have fun and get married! It is a completely new world and worth
experienceing!

Preeti


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-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Alok Kaushik
Sent: 07 July 2018 14:14
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Efforts towards matrimonial pursuit for blind; Suggestions
invited

Hi Vamshi,
Here is  my take on this subject. These views are in a wider  context and
not specific to any individual. You' in this mail refers to everyone
thinking about this and not just you.

You need to ask yourself some basic questions.

1. What is your reason for getting married? Is this reason strong enough to
provide the basis of a good  relationship?
Many blind people are looking for sighted partners. While this may bring
some practical convenience for one person, it does not form a strong basis
for a  healthy marital relationship. Marriages are bound to go through their
phases over a period of time, and preparing oneself to be dependent on one
person is a recipe for disaster.

2. What is it that  you will bring to the relationship?
Most of us have an idea about what kind of person we are looking for and how
we would like them to be involved in our lives, but have we given enough
thought about what we would be adding to  the relationship? Does that  makes
the relationship more balanced?

3. If we are primarily looking for a companionship for long term, are these
channels of bringing unknown people together good enough sources to ensure
that you will get the companionship that you are looking for?
Best would be to increase your sphere of interaction and observe what
naturally evolves and appeals. And if someone appeals, have the courage to
express that, even if it is at the cost of risking the relationship.

Marriage and job have a lot of similarities. Some organizations may have a
bias against hiring people with disability while others may have better
inclusion and diversity policy. Even though 10 options may not work out, at
the end of it you need just one job, and likewise you need just one good
relationship to carry on. There are employers who hire disabled people and
then do not use them to be an equally participating and productive
individuals. There could be a similar situation in a marriage, and that is
definitely not a desirable one.

We overly emphasize on our disability. There are many other aspects in a
person that could make a person appealing enough to someone who is  able to
recognize and value them. After a while disability becomes less important
and how you are as a person becomes fundamental.

While social sensitization is  essential, it is a long drawn approach, and
may or may not result in a significant transformation during the  timeframe
that you may be interested in. So far we have not even been able to
convince people within the visually impaired community that  it is alright
to marry a person with disability, even though they may  have seen two
individuals with disability leading a reasonably decent married life.

While we can intend to bring about a change in the world, actually we cannot
change anyone other tha

Re: [AI] FIX : IndianRail on the internet - issues

[Vinod Benjamin]

Dear Vishnavi,

Thanks for that eloberate mail on IRCTC accessibility ,
really Appreciate it ,
it would be great the Login page is also addressed, have tried to
access the portel with  loging in by the sighted help still nothing is
accessible.

in Androyd version : it would be great if they could make the captcha
to be an OTP or accessible Captcha that would be effective at least.
all the other interphases are accessible in Androyd version, at least
to my knowledge ,
the only catch in the APK is tapping some were to login the IRCTC APK.
Regards,
Vinod Benjamin.

On 7/9/18, bhawani shankar verma  wrote:
> The points you have mentioned will be encountered after login in to IRCTC.
> where is the login field? I could manage to login in IRCTC with sighted help
>
> and also got both login and booking OTP within 3 seconds. so, OTP is no
> issue for me. without opening the lock, how you can enter. I request you all
>
> to please simplify the procedure. in your message nothing about the login
> page. first rectify that login field. also request to please don't suggest
> to switch between screen reader as required. the website must be accessible
>
> across the screen reader. CCPD have sent notice to IRCTC, ministry of rail
> and railway board regarding the matter.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Vaishnavi Jayakumar
> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2018 9:17 PM
> To: AccessIndia.org.in
> Subject: [AI] FIX : IndianRail on the internet - issues
>
> Hi all,
>
> Was aware of the correspondence
> 
> by many on the recently redesigned IRCTC
> 
> website (beta )
> and so gatecrashed CRIS
>  when in Delhi a
> few days back - they by the way (as I have been mentioning repeatedly)
> handle the world's largest online reservation system for IRCTC.
>
> The person I contacted  out of the blue (S.J. Sinha) was supposed to be in
> charge of Passenger Reservation System (PRS) which is now run by Vinod
> Bhatia. S.J. Sinha heads Web Apps - all the 40+ subdomains of
> indianrail.gov.in, mobile apps etc. Anyway, the day I gatecrashed, Mr.
> Sinha was at Railway Bhavan and said someone else would meet me. That was
> Mr. Pitamber Verma - the Chief Project Engineer / Web Applications who was
> welcoming and helpful. Mr. Amit Jha from his team also joined us. However
> anything to do with the ticketing side of things is handled by the PRS team
> - Mr. Yogendra joined from that team.
>
> All I had grasped about the accessibility problems was the missing OTP
> option - so I mentioned that. Yogendra said it had been fixed a couple of
> days earlier. As I was stumped after that (and more importantly WAVE and
> aChecker couldn't run reports on either www.irctc.co.in or
> www.indianrail.gov.in ) I messaged Srinivasu and asked if all was well on
> the IRCTC booking front. He said it was not OK and promised to send inputs
> later that evening as he was travelling.
>
> I then called Prashant from NAB. He briefly discussed some of the issues
> still preventing independent booking with Mr. Yogendra. He was not free to
> come over the next morning to fix things then and there with Mr. Yogendra
> but promised that someone else would come along with a screen-reading
> laptop. I bounced the idea of an understanding accessibility workshop with
> Mr. Verma - he was enthusiastic. I was less enthusiastic about mobile apps
> and said a responsive version of the website with offline functionality,
> and camera / GPS access was more than enough rather than the perpetual,
> expensive tweaking required by Android updates and glitches caused by
> enormous variation in device size, specs and UI skin.
>
> *WEB APPLICATIONS*
> The next morning Mukesh Sharma from NAB and I reached CRIS to find that Mr.
> Yogendra was busy. He suggested we meet the GM/PRS - Vinod Bhatia. We first
> met S.J. Sinha who was familiar with GIGW. He was keen to have a training
> but said getting money would take time. As of now Mukesh has committed for
> a day workshop, the details of which need to be sent across. As Mr.
> Pitamber Verma had mentioned Shaswat's name came up (from Eye-D
> ) - I think they have been in touch with CRIS about
> accessifying / access audit. As everything is handled inhouse at CRIS, I am
> guessing an occasional access report would suffice with detailed one-off
> training and refreshers for new staff. Anyway, over to Prashant on that
> front.
>
> *PRS*
> We then met with Mr. Satish, Yogendra's counterpart. They handle NGET
>  - Next
> Generation E-Ticketing - IRCTC's

Re: [AI] Discriminatory practice: on reservation for the disabled

[Asudani, Rajesh]

The problem is huge.
Implementation of reservation for disabled is almost non existent, particularly 
in educational sector.
Almost no teaching vacancies are reserved at any level ranging from University 
to School.
I have fought some battles in this regard both in and out of the court.

But what is required is a vehement war at all fronts.

Maharashtra government is about to fill around 18, 000 teaching posts in 
government and granted schools.
Where are at least 180 vacancies for blind?

I have filed RTI asking for actual number of PWD already in the job in  
teaching cadre.
I have filed RTI with Universities as well about affiliated colleges as well.
Information is hard to come by.

They even write nill for total cadre strength.

Grin.


We must form dedicated advocacy groups for Reservation and accessibility.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Aziz Minat
Sent: 09 July 2018 11:44
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. 
Subject: [AI] Discriminatory practice: on reservation for the disabled

A piece by martand jhah:
https://www.thehindu.com/opinion/op-ed/discriminatory-practice/article24366775.ece

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Re: [AI] Sreedhariyam treatment

[sibi mohamed]

Hi friends
I accept the statement and I had experienced at Sreedhariyam for my son,he
has taken treatment, their promise was absolutely false, it's a money
making firm. My son Redzuan suffering from usher syndrome has lost hearing
loss of left ear by their carelessness, now only right ear with the help of
hearing aid he is managing. Infact for the vision (RP) also the treatment
doest worked out,really depressed

Siby.M


On Mon 9 Jul, 2018 2:34 pm Dr. B. S. M. Kumar,  wrote:

> Hi Mr. Subramani,
> Is there any scientific evidence for their course of treatment. Any
> treatment has to be approved by medical board and scientific medical
> reports
> has to be published in international refreed journals.
> I still feel it is a waste of time, money on such un - recognized treatment
> procedures.
> I've already approached top ayurvedic/homeopathic doctors and they have
> also
> confirmed that there is no cure for retinitis pigmentosa, and all these
> claims are false claims and money making machines using the emotions of the
> patients and their family.
> Once again, I re-iterate my previous statement, which is, use your money
> and
> time in empowering yourself with assistive technologies, for battling with
> this disease.
> Kind regards,
>
>
> Prof. B.S.M. Kumar, M.Sc., M.Tech., PhD.
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> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] Sreedhariyam treatment
>
> you need to undergo a minimum of 8 courses of intensive treatment for rp
> cure at sreedhareeyam. By taking one time treatment, don't expect results.
> Although its upto the individuals to opt for the treatment, I have seen
> the
> patients who have been cured of their RP in their hospital. Ayurvedic
> treatments are timetaking.
> - Original Message -
> From: "pratik shah" 
> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
> concerning
> the disabled." 
> Sent: 05 July, 2018 9:58 AM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Sreedhariyam treatment
>
>
> > hello ,
> > I have undergone treatment there during May,2017. I have wasted my
> > time and money there. I am suffering from RP only. As suggested, there
> > is no treatment for it till now in world. My mobile no. is 8347010528.
> >
> > On 7/3/18, Mohit Gupta  wrote:
> >> Dear friends,
> >>
> >> If anyone having retinitis pigmentosa has taken treatment form
> >> shreedhariyam eye hospital, please share their contact detail with me.
> >> I would like to talk with them.
> >>
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Re: [AI] Sreedhariyam treatment

[Dr. B. S. M. Kumar]

Hi Mr. Subramani,
Is there any scientific evidence for their course of treatment. Any
treatment has to be approved by medical board and scientific medical reports
has to be published in international refreed journals.
I still feel it is a waste of time, money on such un - recognized treatment
procedures.
I've already approached top ayurvedic/homeopathic doctors and they have also
confirmed that there is no cure for retinitis pigmentosa, and all these
claims are false claims and money making machines using the emotions of the
patients and their family.
Once again, I re-iterate my previous statement, which is, use your money and
time in empowering yourself with assistive technologies, for battling with
this disease.
Kind regards,


Prof. B.S.M. Kumar, M.Sc., M.Tech., PhD.
Director (Industry and Education Relationship), Project Starfish  
Email: kumar@pstarfish.org
Linkedin: https://in.linkedin.com/in/dr-kumar-bsm-39887864
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-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of P. Subramani
Sent: 07 July 2018 16:50
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Sreedhariyam treatment

you need to undergo a minimum of 8 courses of intensive treatment for rp 
cure at sreedhareeyam. By taking one time treatment, don't expect results. 
Although its upto the individuals to opt for the treatment, I have seen the 
patients who have been cured of their RP in their hospital. Ayurvedic 
treatments are timetaking.
- Original Message - 
From: "pratik shah" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled." 
Sent: 05 July, 2018 9:58 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Sreedhariyam treatment


> hello ,
> I have undergone treatment there during May,2017. I have wasted my
> time and money there. I am suffering from RP only. As suggested, there
> is no treatment for it till now in world. My mobile no. is 8347010528.
>
> On 7/3/18, Mohit Gupta  wrote:
>> Dear friends,
>>
>> If anyone having retinitis pigmentosa has taken treatment form
>> shreedhariyam eye hospital, please share their contact detail with me.
>> I would like to talk with them.
>>
>> --
>> Thanks and Regards,
>> Mohit Gupta.
>> Rajasthan.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Search for old postings at:
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> cannot, fold your hands, bless your brothers, and let them go their
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> Mr. Pratik Shah
> Assistant professor at SEMCOM
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>
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Re: [AI] BrailleMe

[john clayton]

Nirmal,
 I understand your and others worrys, but so far Innovision has not shown
themselvs to be buy and forget kind of company, so I would at least suggest
try it before you dish em.
 They have already come up with a brailleme version 2 to address issue the
first brailleme had. and they do tend to take user feedback under
consideration like I said so these are all good things.
 However only if some of you have had good/ bad experiences after owning
the device only then we can judge whether or not the after sale services
and warranty etc is good or not.

and I say choice is always a good thing, be it Iphone vs android, the
brailleme vs the orbit.
A year or so ago we did not have a single braille display that an average
person could aford, not in india anyway, and now we have 2. something to
feel happy about, eh?

Cheers and have a good day.
P.S. Srinivasus idea sounds good, look at bymyeyes special asisstence
service.

On 9 July 2018 at 12:23, Nirmal Verma  wrote:

> Dear Srinivas
>
> We must understand that no company is doing any charity. They are earning
> money. NGO in our sector are already overburdened with the work. Some of
> them are distributing the device in their initial days which is good but
> that should not become a trend.
>
>
>
> On 8 July 2018 at 23:42, Srinivasu Chakravarthula 
> wrote:
>
> > Since efforts are being made by organizations like Saksham, AICB etc.,
> how
> > about integrating customer support with National Eyeway Help Desk? In
> fact,
> > this could become platform for all assistive technology vendors.
> > Thanks,
> > Vasu
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Srinivasu Chakravarthula - Twitter: http://twitter.com/CSrinivasu/
> > Website: http://www.srinivasu.org | http://serveominclusion.com
> >
> > Let's create an inclusive web!
> >
> > Lead Accessibility Consultant, Informatica
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 11:16 AM, Nirmal Verma 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > True Anjali. The after sales service is not good. Before buying please
> > > check with the sellers the follwoing points
> > >
> > > 1. who will provide the after sales?
> > >
> > > 2. is the extension of warranty available?
> > >
> > > 3. how long will the company provide the parts of the product? I am
> > writing
> > > this because some day the company might tell you that supplies from
> china
> > > has stopped coming so we cant provide repairs to the device.
> > >
> > > 4. does the company have customer care service? one person picking the
> > call
> > > is not at all the customer care. he can switch off the phone anytime
> and
> > > move over to his next assignment.
> > >
> > > 5. just to have clarity please ask them who all tested the product.
> > >
> > >
> > > Nirmal
> > >
> > > On 8 July 2018 at 19:07, anjali Anand  wrote:
> > >
> > > > The bigest problem is with regard to after sale service. these
> > > > manufacturers and dealers especially Indian ones have a very poor
> > > > record on this count. They'll call you hundred times till they sell
> > > > the product but when the sale is done, they are very indifferent in
> > > > answering your quaries.
> > > >
> > > > On 7/7/18, john clayton  wrote:
> > > > > Here is a link to their website.
> > > > > http://innovisiontech.co/brailleme/
> > > > > hth.
> > > > >
> > > > > On 7 July 2018 at 19:21, srinivas bangalore_11 <
> > > > > srinivas.bangalor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Hi team,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> If anyone has, Kindly provide the demo link to know more details
> > about
> > > > >> braile me.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On 7/7/18, Aman Preet Singh  wrote:
> > > > >> > Hi! My mobile number is: 9878939098.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > On Sat, Jul 7, 2018, 1:29 PM john clayton <
> nishantra...@gmail.com
> > >
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >> patients, friend.
> > > > >> >> To answer your question, you can contact Innovision or
> Prathamesh
> > > if
> > > > >> >> you
> > > > >> >> would like to purchase the BrailleMe.
> > > > >> >> If you lookover this topic you should be able to get their
> > contact
> > > > info
> > > > >> >> and
> > > > >> >> the like.
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> From what I remember when the brailleMe came out, it was around
> > 25k
> > > > >> >> plus
> > > > >> >> gst, so around 26130 or there abouts.
> > > > >> >> But if you contact any of them 2, you ought to be able to get a
> > > > price.
> > > > >> >> hth.
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> On 7 July 2018 at 12:38, Aman Preet Singh 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> > Hi friends! I had asked a question yesterday about
> Brailleme. I
> > > > would
> > > > >> >> like
> > > > >> >> > to purchase brailleme and from where can I purchase Brailleme
> > and
> > > > how
> > > > >> >> much
> > > > >> >> > cost of this gadget? But nobody answered my question yet.
> With
> > > kind
> > > > >> >> > regards: Aman Preet Singh
> > > > >> >> >
> > > > >> >> > On Fri, Jul 6, 2018, 8:18 PM Aman Preet Singh <
> > > aps32...@gmail.com>
> > > > >> >> wrote:
> > > > >> >> >
> > > > >> >> > > hi frien

Re: [AI] BrailleMe

[john clayton]

Hi,
 havent dealt with nfb before so it is good to know.
My question is does AICB have anything similar? for the orbit reader they
are providing? that is a monthly program.


On 9 July 2018 at 12:57, Aman Preet Singh  wrote:

> Hi friends! Anyone who is thinking about to purchase Braille me I would
> like to suggest anybody that instead of Braille me you should go for Orbit
> reader 20. No doubt it's expensive than braile me but it has many more
> features then Braille me. It has duxbury system in built that is why it can
> read any Indian language available in India. Customer support is not
> available of Braille me but Orbit reader Customer services or dealers are
> available all over in India. There are more differents in both Braille
> displays. If you want to purchase Orbit reader 20 I would like to suggest
> that you should purchase the orbit reader from the national Federation of
> the blind because there this is a very easiest way for payment. Here Orbit
> reader is available in the minimum payment of RS. 29500 at the worth of
> 2000 rupees every month. For more info please contact National Federation
> Of The Blind India. With kind regards: Aman Preet Singh. mobile no:
> 9878939098.
>
> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018, 12:24 PM Nirmal Verma  wrote:
>
> > Dear Srinivas
> >
> > We must understand that no company is doing any charity. They are earning
> > money. NGO in our sector are already overburdened with the work. Some of
> > them are distributing the device in their initial days which is good but
> > that should not become a trend.
> >
> >
> >
> > On 8 July 2018 at 23:42, Srinivasu Chakravarthula 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Since efforts are being made by organizations like Saksham, AICB etc.,
> > how
> > > about integrating customer support with National Eyeway Help Desk? In
> > fact,
> > > this could become platform for all assistive technology vendors.
> > > Thanks,
> > > Vasu
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Srinivasu Chakravarthula - Twitter: http://twitter.com/CSrinivasu/
> > > Website: http://www.srinivasu.org | http://serveominclusion.com
> > >
> > > Let's create an inclusive web!
> > >
> > > Lead Accessibility Consultant, Informatica
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 11:16 AM, Nirmal Verma 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > True Anjali. The after sales service is not good. Before buying
> please
> > > > check with the sellers the follwoing points
> > > >
> > > > 1. who will provide the after sales?
> > > >
> > > > 2. is the extension of warranty available?
> > > >
> > > > 3. how long will the company provide the parts of the product? I am
> > > writing
> > > > this because some day the company might tell you that supplies from
> > china
> > > > has stopped coming so we cant provide repairs to the device.
> > > >
> > > > 4. does the company have customer care service? one person picking
> the
> > > call
> > > > is not at all the customer care. he can switch off the phone anytime
> > and
> > > > move over to his next assignment.
> > > >
> > > > 5. just to have clarity please ask them who all tested the product.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Nirmal
> > > >
> > > > On 8 July 2018 at 19:07, anjali Anand 
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > The bigest problem is with regard to after sale service. these
> > > > > manufacturers and dealers especially Indian ones have a very poor
> > > > > record on this count. They'll call you hundred times till they sell
> > > > > the product but when the sale is done, they are very indifferent in
> > > > > answering your quaries.
> > > > >
> > > > > On 7/7/18, john clayton  wrote:
> > > > > > Here is a link to their website.
> > > > > > http://innovisiontech.co/brailleme/
> > > > > > hth.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 7 July 2018 at 19:21, srinivas bangalore_11 <
> > > > > > srinivas.bangalor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> Hi team,
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> If anyone has, Kindly provide the demo link to know more details
> > > about
> > > > > >> braile me.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On 7/7/18, Aman Preet Singh  wrote:
> > > > > >> > Hi! My mobile number is: 9878939098.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > On Sat, Jul 7, 2018, 1:29 PM john clayton <
> > nishantra...@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >> patients, friend.
> > > > > >> >> To answer your question, you can contact Innovision or
> > Prathamesh
> > > > if
> > > > > >> >> you
> > > > > >> >> would like to purchase the BrailleMe.
> > > > > >> >> If you lookover this topic you should be able to get their
> > > contact
> > > > > info
> > > > > >> >> and
> > > > > >> >> the like.
> > > > > >> >>
> > > > > >> >> From what I remember when the brailleMe came out, it was
> around
> > > 25k
> > > > > >> >> plus
> > > > > >> >> gst, so around 26130 or there abouts.
> > > > > >> >> But if you contact any of them 2, you ought to be able to
> get a
> > > > > price.
> > > > > >> >> hth.
> > > > > >> >>
> > > > > >> >> On 7 July 2018 at 12:38, Aman Preet Singh <
> aps32...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >

Re: [AI] BrailleMe

[Srinivasu Chakravarthula]

Hello Nirmal,
I think I have not made my suggestion in a clear way. I did not mean that
NGOs take over responsibility of managing customer service of these
products. What I mean is that Product manufacturers may sign-up to use Help
desk as a platform so that beneficiaries will have a single phone number
for all needs. Like how calls are routed to different partner organizations
today, when user selects product / company name, calls will be routed to
them.

I have noticed George's response and looks like he understood what I mean
is.

Hope this clarifies.

Regards,

Srinivasu Chakravarthula - Twitter: http://twitter.com/CSrinivasu/
Website: http://www.srinivasu.org | http://serveominclusion.com

Let's create an inclusive web!

Lead Accessibility Consultant, Informatica


On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 12:23 PM, Nirmal Verma 
wrote:

> Dear Srinivas
>
> We must understand that no company is doing any charity. They are earning
> money. NGO in our sector are already overburdened with the work. Some of
> them are distributing the device in their initial days which is good but
> that should not become a trend.
>
>
>
> On 8 July 2018 at 23:42, Srinivasu Chakravarthula 
> wrote:
>
> > Since efforts are being made by organizations like Saksham, AICB etc.,
> how
> > about integrating customer support with National Eyeway Help Desk? In
> fact,
> > this could become platform for all assistive technology vendors.
> > Thanks,
> > Vasu
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Srinivasu Chakravarthula - Twitter: http://twitter.com/CSrinivasu/
> > Website: http://www.srinivasu.org | http://serveominclusion.com
> >
> > Let's create an inclusive web!
> >
> > Lead Accessibility Consultant, Informatica
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 11:16 AM, Nirmal Verma 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > True Anjali. The after sales service is not good. Before buying please
> > > check with the sellers the follwoing points
> > >
> > > 1. who will provide the after sales?
> > >
> > > 2. is the extension of warranty available?
> > >
> > > 3. how long will the company provide the parts of the product? I am
> > writing
> > > this because some day the company might tell you that supplies from
> china
> > > has stopped coming so we cant provide repairs to the device.
> > >
> > > 4. does the company have customer care service? one person picking the
> > call
> > > is not at all the customer care. he can switch off the phone anytime
> and
> > > move over to his next assignment.
> > >
> > > 5. just to have clarity please ask them who all tested the product.
> > >
> > >
> > > Nirmal
> > >
> > > On 8 July 2018 at 19:07, anjali Anand  wrote:
> > >
> > > > The bigest problem is with regard to after sale service. these
> > > > manufacturers and dealers especially Indian ones have a very poor
> > > > record on this count. They'll call you hundred times till they sell
> > > > the product but when the sale is done, they are very indifferent in
> > > > answering your quaries.
> > > >
> > > > On 7/7/18, john clayton  wrote:
> > > > > Here is a link to their website.
> > > > > http://innovisiontech.co/brailleme/
> > > > > hth.
> > > > >
> > > > > On 7 July 2018 at 19:21, srinivas bangalore_11 <
> > > > > srinivas.bangalor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Hi team,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> If anyone has, Kindly provide the demo link to know more details
> > about
> > > > >> braile me.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On 7/7/18, Aman Preet Singh  wrote:
> > > > >> > Hi! My mobile number is: 9878939098.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > On Sat, Jul 7, 2018, 1:29 PM john clayton <
> nishantra...@gmail.com
> > >
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >> patients, friend.
> > > > >> >> To answer your question, you can contact Innovision or
> Prathamesh
> > > if
> > > > >> >> you
> > > > >> >> would like to purchase the BrailleMe.
> > > > >> >> If you lookover this topic you should be able to get their
> > contact
> > > > info
> > > > >> >> and
> > > > >> >> the like.
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> From what I remember when the brailleMe came out, it was around
> > 25k
> > > > >> >> plus
> > > > >> >> gst, so around 26130 or there abouts.
> > > > >> >> But if you contact any of them 2, you ought to be able to get a
> > > > price.
> > > > >> >> hth.
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> On 7 July 2018 at 12:38, Aman Preet Singh 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> > Hi friends! I had asked a question yesterday about
> Brailleme. I
> > > > would
> > > > >> >> like
> > > > >> >> > to purchase brailleme and from where can I purchase Brailleme
> > and
> > > > how
> > > > >> >> much
> > > > >> >> > cost of this gadget? But nobody answered my question yet.
> With
> > > kind
> > > > >> >> > regards: Aman Preet Singh
> > > > >> >> >
> > > > >> >> > On Fri, Jul 6, 2018, 8:18 PM Aman Preet Singh <
> > > aps32...@gmail.com>
> > > > >> >> wrote:
> > > > >> >> >
> > > > >> >> > > hi friends! Could you please tell me how much cost of this
> > > > >> affordable
> > > > >> >> > > Braille display Braille me, and from where can I purch

Re: [AI] BrailleMe

[Aman Preet Singh]

Hi friends! Anyone who is thinking about to purchase Braille me I would
like to suggest anybody that instead of Braille me you should go for Orbit
reader 20. No doubt it's expensive than braile me but it has many more
features then Braille me. It has duxbury system in built that is why it can
read any Indian language available in India. Customer support is not
available of Braille me but Orbit reader Customer services or dealers are
available all over in India. There are more differents in both Braille
displays. If you want to purchase Orbit reader 20 I would like to suggest
that you should purchase the orbit reader from the national Federation of
the blind because there this is a very easiest way for payment. Here Orbit
reader is available in the minimum payment of RS. 29500 at the worth of
2000 rupees every month. For more info please contact National Federation
Of The Blind India. With kind regards: Aman Preet Singh. mobile no:
9878939098.

On Mon, Jul 9, 2018, 12:24 PM Nirmal Verma  wrote:

> Dear Srinivas
>
> We must understand that no company is doing any charity. They are earning
> money. NGO in our sector are already overburdened with the work. Some of
> them are distributing the device in their initial days which is good but
> that should not become a trend.
>
>
>
> On 8 July 2018 at 23:42, Srinivasu Chakravarthula 
> wrote:
>
> > Since efforts are being made by organizations like Saksham, AICB etc.,
> how
> > about integrating customer support with National Eyeway Help Desk? In
> fact,
> > this could become platform for all assistive technology vendors.
> > Thanks,
> > Vasu
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Srinivasu Chakravarthula - Twitter: http://twitter.com/CSrinivasu/
> > Website: http://www.srinivasu.org | http://serveominclusion.com
> >
> > Let's create an inclusive web!
> >
> > Lead Accessibility Consultant, Informatica
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 11:16 AM, Nirmal Verma 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > True Anjali. The after sales service is not good. Before buying please
> > > check with the sellers the follwoing points
> > >
> > > 1. who will provide the after sales?
> > >
> > > 2. is the extension of warranty available?
> > >
> > > 3. how long will the company provide the parts of the product? I am
> > writing
> > > this because some day the company might tell you that supplies from
> china
> > > has stopped coming so we cant provide repairs to the device.
> > >
> > > 4. does the company have customer care service? one person picking the
> > call
> > > is not at all the customer care. he can switch off the phone anytime
> and
> > > move over to his next assignment.
> > >
> > > 5. just to have clarity please ask them who all tested the product.
> > >
> > >
> > > Nirmal
> > >
> > > On 8 July 2018 at 19:07, anjali Anand  wrote:
> > >
> > > > The bigest problem is with regard to after sale service. these
> > > > manufacturers and dealers especially Indian ones have a very poor
> > > > record on this count. They'll call you hundred times till they sell
> > > > the product but when the sale is done, they are very indifferent in
> > > > answering your quaries.
> > > >
> > > > On 7/7/18, john clayton  wrote:
> > > > > Here is a link to their website.
> > > > > http://innovisiontech.co/brailleme/
> > > > > hth.
> > > > >
> > > > > On 7 July 2018 at 19:21, srinivas bangalore_11 <
> > > > > srinivas.bangalor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Hi team,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> If anyone has, Kindly provide the demo link to know more details
> > about
> > > > >> braile me.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On 7/7/18, Aman Preet Singh  wrote:
> > > > >> > Hi! My mobile number is: 9878939098.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > On Sat, Jul 7, 2018, 1:29 PM john clayton <
> nishantra...@gmail.com
> > >
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >> patients, friend.
> > > > >> >> To answer your question, you can contact Innovision or
> Prathamesh
> > > if
> > > > >> >> you
> > > > >> >> would like to purchase the BrailleMe.
> > > > >> >> If you lookover this topic you should be able to get their
> > contact
> > > > info
> > > > >> >> and
> > > > >> >> the like.
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> From what I remember when the brailleMe came out, it was around
> > 25k
> > > > >> >> plus
> > > > >> >> gst, so around 26130 or there abouts.
> > > > >> >> But if you contact any of them 2, you ought to be able to get a
> > > > price.
> > > > >> >> hth.
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> On 7 July 2018 at 12:38, Aman Preet Singh 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> > Hi friends! I had asked a question yesterday about
> Brailleme. I
> > > > would
> > > > >> >> like
> > > > >> >> > to purchase brailleme and from where can I purchase Brailleme
> > and
> > > > how
> > > > >> >> much
> > > > >> >> > cost of this gadget? But nobody answered my question yet.
> With
> > > kind
> > > > >> >> > regards: Aman Preet Singh
> > > > >> >> >
> > > > >> >> > On Fri, Jul 6, 2018, 8:18 PM Aman Preet Singh <
> > > aps32...@gmail.com>
> > > > >> >> wrote:
> > > > >> >>

Re: [AI] BrailleMe

[George Abraham]

Guess Eyeway could consider this  if the product manufacturers are prepared to 
train and also provide a monthly fee for the service and promotion.

Of course, once the proposal comes to us, we would need to discuss the same 
amongst all of us the partners involved.-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Nirmal Verma
Sent: Monday, July 9, 2018 12:23 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] BrailleMe

Dear Srinivas

We must understand that no company is doing any charity. They are earning 
money. NGO in our sector are already overburdened with the work. Some of them 
are distributing the device in their initial days which is good but that should 
not become a trend.



On 8 July 2018 at 23:42, Srinivasu Chakravarthula 
wrote:

> Since efforts are being made by organizations like Saksham, AICB etc., 
> how about integrating customer support with National Eyeway Help Desk? 
> In fact, this could become platform for all assistive technology vendors.
> Thanks,
> Vasu
>
> Regards,
>
> Srinivasu Chakravarthula - Twitter: http://twitter.com/CSrinivasu/
> Website: http://www.srinivasu.org | http://serveominclusion.com
>
> Let's create an inclusive web!
>
> Lead Accessibility Consultant, Informatica
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 11:16 AM, Nirmal Verma 
> wrote:
>
> > True Anjali. The after sales service is not good. Before buying 
> > please check with the sellers the follwoing points
> >
> > 1. who will provide the after sales?
> >
> > 2. is the extension of warranty available?
> >
> > 3. how long will the company provide the parts of the product? I am
> writing
> > this because some day the company might tell you that supplies from 
> > china has stopped coming so we cant provide repairs to the device.
> >
> > 4. does the company have customer care service? one person picking 
> > the
> call
> > is not at all the customer care. he can switch off the phone anytime 
> > and move over to his next assignment.
> >
> > 5. just to have clarity please ask them who all tested the product.
> >
> >
> > Nirmal
> >
> > On 8 July 2018 at 19:07, anjali Anand  wrote:
> >
> > > The bigest problem is with regard to after sale service. these 
> > > manufacturers and dealers especially Indian ones have a very poor 
> > > record on this count. They'll call you hundred times till they 
> > > sell the product but when the sale is done, they are very 
> > > indifferent in answering your quaries.
> > >
> > > On 7/7/18, john clayton  wrote:
> > > > Here is a link to their website.
> > > > http://innovisiontech.co/brailleme/
> > > > hth.
> > > >
> > > > On 7 July 2018 at 19:21, srinivas bangalore_11 < 
> > > > srinivas.bangalor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Hi team,
> > > >>
> > > >> If anyone has, Kindly provide the demo link to know more 
> > > >> details
> about
> > > >> braile me.
> > > >>
> > > >> On 7/7/18, Aman Preet Singh  wrote:
> > > >> > Hi! My mobile number is: 9878939098.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > On Sat, Jul 7, 2018, 1:29 PM john clayton 
> > > >> >  >
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> patients, friend.
> > > >> >> To answer your question, you can contact Innovision or 
> > > >> >> Prathamesh
> > if
> > > >> >> you
> > > >> >> would like to purchase the BrailleMe.
> > > >> >> If you lookover this topic you should be able to get their
> contact
> > > info
> > > >> >> and
> > > >> >> the like.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> From what I remember when the brailleMe came out, it was 
> > > >> >> around
> 25k
> > > >> >> plus
> > > >> >> gst, so around 26130 or there abouts.
> > > >> >> But if you contact any of them 2, you ought to be able to 
> > > >> >> get a
> > > price.
> > > >> >> hth.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> On 7 July 2018 at 12:38, Aman Preet Singh 
> > > >> >> 
> > > wrote:
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> > Hi friends! I had asked a question yesterday about 
> > > >> >> > Brailleme. I
> > > would
> > > >> >> like
> > > >> >> > to purchase brailleme and from where can I purchase 
> > > >> >> > Brailleme
> and
> > > how
> > > >> >> much
> > > >> >> > cost of this gadget? But nobody answered my question yet. 
> > > >> >> > With
> > kind
> > > >> >> > regards: Aman Preet Singh
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > On Fri, Jul 6, 2018, 8:18 PM Aman Preet Singh <
> > aps32...@gmail.com>
> > > >> >> wrote:
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > > hi friends! Could you please tell me how much cost of 
> > > >> >> > > this
> > > >> affordable
> > > >> >> > > Braille display Braille me, and from where can I purchase it?
> > If
> > > >> >> possible
> > > >> >> > > please provide phone number and address where we can 
> > > >> >> > > purchase
> > > >> >> Brailleme.
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > > On Fri, Jul 6, 2018, 7:59 PM john clayton <
> > > nishantra...@gmail.com>
> > > >> >> > wrote:
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > >> Hi,
> > > >> >> > >>  Thank you for getting back to me and taking my 
> > > >> >> > >> feedback
> into
> > >

Re: [AI] accessible website or app to find and reserve trains

[bhawani shankar verma]

Sir, finally you have to type your IRCTC login ID and password. whether it
is make my trip, clear trip or paytm. they will leave you on login page of
IRCTC as you choose for booking. you can not book concession ticket through
those websites.


-Original Message- 
From: Srinivasu Chakravarthula

Sent: Monday, July 09, 2018 12:03 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] accessible website or app to find and reserve trains

Though Make My Trip offers booking of Train tickets though I have never
used their service. That said, as Vaishnavi posted this morning, there is
some work in progress to make IRCTC accessible.
Best,
Srinivasu

Regards,

Srinivasu Chakravarthula - Twitter: http://twitter.com/CSrinivasu/
Website: http://www.srinivasu.org | http://serveominclusion.com

Let's create an inclusive web!

Lead Accessibility Consultant, Informatica


On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 11:59 AM, Saravanan  wrote:


Dear Friends,

I am inneed of accessible app or website to find seats and book seats for
trains.
Previously indianrail.gov.in & irctc are accessible &n easy to work on
own.
But, nowadays they are not accessible to screen readers.
Please assist me in getting availability & booking reservation tickets in
trains.
Thanks
Saravanan.K
+91 9916512402





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