[AI] Regarding Key Board commands for IPad

2018-12-03 Thread Sanchit Katiyar
Dear friends,

I am using a third party external key board with IPad,  can anyone provide me 
the list of commands  which I can use with the IPad using my external key board.

Regards,
Sanchit Katiyar
PhD research scholar (University of Delhi)

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Re: [AI] Sensory substitution in blind?

2018-12-03 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
I agree.
Scientific attitude calls for unbiased investigations of the claims.
So, first we have to establish whether the subjects do sense and perceive 
visual information through other modes by undergoing such training.
A friend of my daughter also did that, now her ability is also on the decline 
as she has given up practicing.

So, if sighted can do, so can the blind, or so should the blind too.

So, if some one is trying out for blind, let it be done, instead of mocking the 
efforts.


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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Kotian, H P
Sent: 04 December 2018 10:46
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.' 
Subject: Re: [AI] Sensory substitution in blind?

Hi

They have provided the video as evidence. My coleague's daughter who is sighted 
mentioned that his daughter participated in the mid brain activation programme 
and she could read things blind folded. Later she stopped practicing and soon 
the ability faded with it. This is the closest evidence I have first hand. Long 
back almost 15 years back, some of us had an opportunity to witness a similar 
feat from a team from Indonesia. This took place at ICEVI conference at 
Ahmedabad. Now when I look it, it seems to be a case of mid brain activation.

There are of course many video online making claims.

I think, it is important to scientifically catalogue it, follow proper protocol 
in the investigation process, identify a optimum number of good candidates and 
follow it up for a few years.

There are many such main stream programmes in cities like Mumbai but the whole 
process is not adequately documented. Although, they provide videos of the 
feats.
Even if one makes a conclusive pronouncement that the whole process is a hoax, 
it should be done after proper investigation. One can seek only when one 
approaches like a seeker. If you have already made a judgement then what can 
one hope to find?


Similarly, Evidence of telepathy cannot be proved physiologically, however 
statistically the evidence towards success rate proves positively.

Having said that, one should approach it with zero expectations, this wil save 
the moment if it does not work out.


Harish.

-Original Mess
age-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Rohith P
Sent: Monday, December 3, 2018 7:50 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. 
Subject: Re: [AI] Sensory substitution in blind?

Dear Harish,
But do you know any child who can read blindfolded using this technique? And if 
someone can read blindfolded, a blind person should also be able to read 
because visual signals have no role. I think the responsibility of prooving 
such claims should be on the proponents of such claims. As you said, let them 
produce people benefited by the technique and then the medical science can 
study them. But I don't think we would find any beneficiaries.
There is no good relying on false hopes.

On 12/3/18, Kotian, H P  wrote:
> Dear Doc
>
> Fully agree with you regarding scientifically testing, replicating it etc.
>
> What if, there is a pool of kids who can scientifically demonstrate 
> that they can read blind folded etc. Is it not scientific then to test 
> the result and thereafter figure out the mechanisms involved.
>
> Why is it that no effort is done in that direction and merely rubbish 
> the claim?
>
> Would you as a doctor do the honors then?
>
> I for one would hold my tongue until proven this is all a hoax and 
> give the benefit of doubt. Let us not be caught in the nomenclature of 
> mid brain activation etc. Let us first establish the fact that the 
> kids trained in this technique can read blindfold and there is no cheating 
> here.
>
> I don't think this should be difficult to establish. Preferably please 
> videograph?
> Would you pl revert on this please?
>
> Would be eagerly awaiting to hear about the findings.
>
> Harish.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
> Behalf Of Sharad Philip
> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 10:38 PM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
> concerning the disabled. 
> Subject: Re: [AI] Sensory substitution in blind?
>
> Dear sir
> I have been following this thread for the past few days . Being a 
> medical doctor by training , i feel i should weigh in here and clarify 
> some things you are saying here .
>
> Firstly , mainstream medical scientists as you call them are not a 
> vile community that is looking out for personal commercial interests .
> Those in research and in clinical practice rarely overlap .anyhow , no 
> one whether as a person or a community is specifically interested in 
> benefiting from another human being s suffering or disability . As and 
> when avenues of treatment / paliation have come up they have been 
> brought 

Re: [AI] Talking weighing scale found

2018-12-03 Thread sidnc1986
Seems accurate enough. May be once I felt it was showing about 500 grams lower 
than usual. But even parameters like food intake and clothes you wear have an 
impact. For example, you have heavy lunch, and you would weigh a kilo extra. 
You wear Jeens instead of track pants, you would weigh higher.
I feel as far as you stick to the same scale, you would notice the same 
deviations that you would on any other scale.

Regards,
Siddhant 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Pramit
Sent: Monday, December 3, 2018 4:26 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Talking weighing scale found

Thanks. this is really useful.

How accurate is it?

Pramit

On 12/3/2018 2:38 PM, sidnc1...@gmail.com wrote:
> Guys,
> I got my Venus weighing scale today. As of now, it seems to be priced higher 
> at 1149 against last week’s 894. It works well for me.
> 1) You stand on it and it says “Hello”
> 2) Then it takes some time to stabilize measurement.
> 3) Then it announces your weight twice saying “Your weight is 72.7 KG”
> 4) You get off the scale, it says “Powering down”
>
> Here is the URL again for anyone who might need: 
> https://www.amazon.in/Venus-VTS-1999-Electronic-Personal-Weighing/dp/B079GSPFRN
>
> Hope this helps!
> Regards,
> Siddhant
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
> From: sampath raj rao
> Sent: Saturday, December 1, 2018 7:20 PM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] Talking weighing scale found
>
> Thank you sir, even Iam looking for one...
>
> On 11/30/18, Ajay Minocha  wrote:
>> @Mohit, there is only one model by Mi, search on Amazzon and you will
>> easily find it.
>>
>> HTH,
>> Ajay
>>
>> On 30/11/2018, mohammadwaseem khan  wrote:
>>> Yes, it is the same Venus.
>>> as far as its accuracy is concerned I cannot say surely anything about it
>>> since I don't have other device to compare with but as far as my weight is
>>> concerned it informed me almost  correct
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 30, 2018, 6:34 PM sampath raj rao >> wrote:
>>>
 Hi sir, how far is the venus device accurate in its answers?
 some reviews say that it is not accurate, what about your experience?
 And one more query with regard the brand name "Venus", is it the Venus
 firm that manufactures electronic items like water heaters?


 On 11/30/18, mohammadwaseem khan  wrote:
> Hey,
> I have ordered and receive the following product from Amazon From the
> following URL
> Venus VTS-1999 Light Weight...
> https://www.amazon.in/dp/B079GSPFRN?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf
> After using the machine what I found is, it has no physical buttons so
> there is no need to on or off the machine. That means after putting two
> batteries in the machine it automatically gets power on. Just stand on
 the
> glass of the machine it will automatically announce the weight like
> your
> weight is 54 kg or your weight is 55.7 kilogram. After announcing the
 await
> twice it automatically gets power down and it will also announce
> powering
> off
>
> On Fri, Nov 30, 2018, 12:16 PM 
>> I’ll be getting the ordered weighing scale by Monday. Once I get it,
 I’ll
>> update the thread with feedback on that weighing scale.
>>
>> With best regards,
>> Siddhant
>>
>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>>
>> From: Mohit Gupta
>> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 7:56 AM
>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerning
>> the disabled.
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Talking weighing scale found
>>
>> hi ajay,
>> pleae provide exact model number or link from amezon.
>>
>> On 11/28/18, Ajay Minocha  wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Recently bought Mi smart weighing scale for my visually impaired
>>> sister, the machine pairs with Mi fit app which is reasonablly
>>> accessible. In addition to your weight, it can also calculate BMI
>>> and
>>> other vitals provided you mention your hight and other dimentions in
>>> your profile on the Mi Fit app.
>>>
>>> HTH,
>>> Ajay
>>>
>>> On 28/11/2018, sidnc1...@gmail.com  wrote:
 Hi guys,

 I searched for this thread as I needed one as well. But these seem
 to
 be
 out
 of market now. In case anyone needs, I came across a weighing scale
 by
 Venus
 at

 https://www.amazon.in/Venus-VTS-1999-Electronic-Personal-Weighing/dp/B079GSPFRN
 which is now priced at 894 INR.

 Hope this helps someone and saves his/her effort of searching. In
 case
 this
 product also goes out of market in future, here’s what I searched
 for
 to
 hit
 the nail: ‘Weighing scale with "Talking feature"’

 Regards,
 Siddhant

 Sent from Mail for Windows 10


Re: [AI] Sensory substitution in blind?

2018-12-03 Thread Kotian, H P
Hi

They have provided the video as evidence. My coleague's daughter who is sighted 
mentioned that his daughter participated in the mid brain activation programme 
and she could read things blind folded. Later she stopped practicing and soon 
the ability faded with it. This is the closest evidence I have first hand. Long 
back almost 15 years back, some of us had an opportunity to witness a similar 
feat from a team from Indonesia. This took place at ICEVI conference at 
Ahmedabad. Now when I look it, it seems to be a case of mid brain activation.

There are of course many video online making claims.

I think, it is important to scientifically catalogue it, follow proper protocol 
in the investigation process, identify a optimum number of good candidates and 
follow it up for a few years.

There are many such main stream programmes in cities like Mumbai but the whole 
process is not adequately documented. Although, they provide videos of the 
feats.
Even if one makes a conclusive pronouncement that the whole process is a hoax, 
it should be done after proper investigation. One can seek only when one 
approaches like a seeker. If you have already made a judgement then what can 
one hope to find?


Similarly, Evidence of telepathy cannot be proved physiologically, however 
statistically the evidence towards success rate proves positively.

Having said that, one should approach it with zero expectations, this wil save 
the moment if it does not work out.


Harish.

-Original Mess
age-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Rohith P
Sent: Monday, December 3, 2018 7:50 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. 
Subject: Re: [AI] Sensory substitution in blind?

Dear Harish,
But do you know any child who can read blindfolded using this technique? And if 
someone can read blindfolded, a blind person should also be able to read 
because visual signals have no role. I think the responsibility of prooving 
such claims should be on the proponents of such claims. As you said, let them 
produce people benefited by the technique and then the medical science can 
study them. But I don't think we would find any beneficiaries.
There is no good relying on false hopes.

On 12/3/18, Kotian, H P  wrote:
> Dear Doc
>
> Fully agree with you regarding scientifically testing, replicating it etc.
>
> What if, there is a pool of kids who can scientifically demonstrate
> that they can read blind folded etc. Is it not scientific then to test
> the result and thereafter figure out the mechanisms involved.
>
> Why is it that no effort is done in that direction and merely rubbish
> the claim?
>
> Would you as a doctor do the honors then?
>
> I for one would hold my tongue until proven this is all a hoax and
> give the benefit of doubt. Let us not be caught in the nomenclature of
> mid brain activation etc. Let us first establish the fact that the
> kids trained in this technique can read blindfold and there is no cheating 
> here.
>
> I don't think this should be difficult to establish. Preferably please
> videograph?
> Would you pl revert on this please?
>
> Would be eagerly awaiting to hear about the findings.
>
> Harish.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
> Behalf Of Sharad Philip
> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 10:38 PM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
> concerning the disabled. 
> Subject: Re: [AI] Sensory substitution in blind?
>
> Dear sir
> I have been following this thread for the past few days . Being a
> medical doctor by training , i feel i should weigh in here and clarify
> some things you are saying here .
>
> Firstly , mainstream medical scientists as you call them are not a
> vile community that is looking out for personal commercial interests .
> Those in research and in clinical practice rarely overlap .anyhow , no
> one whether as a person or a community is specifically interested in
> benefiting from another human being s suffering or disability . As and
> when avenues of treatment / paliation have come up they have been
> brought into clinical practice after rigorous examinations by the
> scientific method . The sole aim for such an exercise is to ensure
> replicability of results . It a little bit more complicated than
> saying a pre and post comparison . There needs to be an understanding
> of why anything works , for whom it works , for those it did not work
> for why did not , what are the best parameters and qualifying
> situations , whether there are any ill effects for those healthy , any
> ill effects for those in need of the intervention , is there a way to
> predict who would benefit and who would not , and many other things .
> This is possible when the intervention is rooted in some physiological , 
> pharmacological , biochemical basis .
>
> In the context of what is being discussed here , there is no
> 

Re: [AI] Some M com related books please

2018-12-03 Thread Siva Suresh
try surching in sugamya pusthakalaya. thank you

On 12/3/18, Renuka Warriar Edakkunni  wrote:
> Hello friends,
> Cound anyone kindly provide the soft copy of the
>
>
> following books for an M Com student?
> Text:
> General informatics (Dr. Abdul Assis Koroth)
>
> Numerical skills (L.R Potti)
>
> Financial and management accounting (A.Vinod)
>
> entrepreneurship development by A. Vinod
>
> Data structures
> Seymour lipschutz
>
> E- commerce
> Dr. Abdul Assis koroth,
> Muhammed anees V
>
> Programming in ANSI C
> Balaguruswamy .E to8
>
> Thanking you in advance,
> Renuka,
> Calicut.
>
>
>
>
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Re: [AI] Jobs for person with disability at Cummins India

2018-12-03 Thread kalpana
Sir, what kind of jobs are there"
 

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Mohammed Tausif Iqbal
Sent: 03 December, 2018 4:11 PM
To: accessindia
Subject: [AI] Jobs for person with disability at Cummins India

Dear Access Indian,
Cummins have a wings committee" aims at working on specially able projects
focusing on leveraging specially able talent through creating inclusive
environment.

on the occasion of International day of disability, we requires resume  of
specialy able candidate who is seeking job opportunities, after receiving
such resume, we would be working on placing right talent based on merit and
current Jobs opennings.

Interested candidate can email your resume at mohammed.iq...@cummins.com



Warm Greetings,



--
Mohammed Tausif Iqbal:-Human Resources Generalist Tata CumminsPrivate
Limited: Telco township: Jamshedpur: Jharkand




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Re: [AI] (AI) Facing issues with HDFC internet banking

2018-12-03 Thread Rahul Bhatia
Hi first thing is that HDFC net banking is fully accessible with NVDA
not with JAWS, apart from that its also fully accessible with talkback
in android phones.
Now your answer
while using NVDA use G to navigate to fund transfer grafic link click on that,
now press L for list click on transact press H you will find all
related option to third party transfer like IMPS NEFT ETC.
Hope this will resolve your querry.


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Re: [AI] Sensory substitution in blind?

2018-12-03 Thread Rohith P
Dear Harish,
But do you know any child who can read blindfolded using this
technique? And if someone can read blindfolded, a blind person should
also be able to read because visual signals have no role. I think the
responsibility of prooving such claims should be on the proponents of
such claims. As you said, let them produce people benefited by the
technique and then the medical science can study them. But I don't
think we would find any beneficiaries.
There is no good relying on false hopes.

On 12/3/18, Kotian, H P  wrote:
> Dear Doc
>
> Fully agree with you regarding scientifically testing, replicating it etc.
>
> What if, there is a pool of kids who can scientifically demonstrate that
> they can read blind folded etc. Is it not scientific then to test the result
> and thereafter figure out the mechanisms involved.
>
> Why is it that no effort is done in that direction and merely rubbish the
> claim?
>
> Would you as a doctor do the honors then?
>
> I for one would hold my tongue until proven this is all a hoax and give the
> benefit of doubt. Let us not be caught in the nomenclature of mid brain
> activation etc. Let us first establish the fact that the kids trained in
> this technique can read blindfold and there is no cheating here.
>
> I don't think this should be difficult to establish. Preferably please
> videograph?
> Would you pl revert on this please?
>
> Would be eagerly awaiting to hear about the findings.
>
> Harish.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of Sharad Philip
> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 10:38 PM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled. 
> Subject: Re: [AI] Sensory substitution in blind?
>
> Dear sir
> I have been following this thread for the past few days . Being a medical
> doctor by training , i feel i should weigh in here and clarify some things
> you are saying here .
>
> Firstly , mainstream medical scientists as you call them are not a vile
> community that is looking out for personal commercial interests . Those in
> research and in clinical practice rarely overlap .anyhow , no one whether as
> a person or a community is specifically interested in benefiting from
> another human being s suffering or disability . As and when avenues of
> treatment / paliation have come up they have been brought into clinical
> practice after rigorous examinations by the scientific method . The sole aim
> for such an exercise is to ensure replicability of results . It a little bit
> more complicated than saying a pre and post comparison . There needs to be
> an understanding of why anything works , for whom it works , for those it
> did not work for why did not , what are the best parameters and qualifying
> situations , whether there are any ill effects for those healthy , any ill
> effects for those in need of the intervention , is there a way to predict
> who would benefit and who would not , and many other things . This is
> possible when the intervention is rooted in some physiological ,
> pharmacological , biochemical basis .
>
> In the context of what is being discussed here , there is no physiological
> or any other scientific basis . The Midbrain is actually a part of the brain
> that controls a lot of vital functions such as respiration , body
> temperature etc amongst others . Some nerve fibers from the processing
> centres for vision do pass through this area . These also control some basic
> pursuit movements of the eye . Apart from this there also other cranial
> nerves that mediate taste , touch , and the movements of face and neck
> muscles . However in the MIDBRAIN activation programs that are being
> discussed here , the midbrain referred to i s something in between the right
> and the left !!
>
> The only thing between the right and left hemispheres of the Brain is the
> connection system called the corpus callosum . There is no separate right
> and left Brain as is commonly referred to in these writings ! All right
> handed individuals are left dominant - a terminology used to refer to the
> fact that these people have their speech areas in the left hemispheres .
> Those left handed are more than 90% left dominant while a few are right
> dominant . This just implies that certain functions are subserved by certain
> areas . . Being right brained and left brained is something not based in
> neuroscience . Then where would the midbrain be is what should be asked !
>
> If the intervention works to reduce the impairment , i am happy as any of
> you would be but i would still want to know how it does . Unlike common
> belief , ill effects also plague any intervention - whether psychological ,
> or any activation whatsoever . It is just that they are not recognised or
> identified . It would only be possible to identify such things in controlled
> studies . But alas , there is little scope for that to happen . An y such
> intervention when 

[AI] Some M com related books please

2018-12-03 Thread Renuka Warriar Edakkunni
Hello friends,
Cound anyone kindly provide the soft copy of the


following books for an M Com student?
Text:
General informatics (Dr. Abdul Assis Koroth)

Numerical skills (L.R Potti)

Financial and management accounting (A.Vinod)

entrepreneurship development by A. Vinod

Data structures
Seymour lipschutz

E- commerce
Dr. Abdul Assis koroth,
Muhammed anees V

Programming in ANSI C
Balaguruswamy .E to8

Thanking you in advance,
Renuka,
Calicut.




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[AI] test mail

2018-12-03 Thread Renuka Warriar Edakkunni
Test mail. Please ignore




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Re: [AI] suggest a good phone under 20K

2018-12-03 Thread shankar.c
You may go with nokia 7plus.
For more info, googleit!

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Subject: Re: [AI] suggest a good phone under 20K

Motorola one power is the best if you do not like the Nokia brand

On Mon, Dec 3, 2018, 1:04 PM Maruti Paramwad  Hello all,
>
> Greetings of the day!
> friends, as above subject says, please suggest me any good Android 
> Phone under 20K for the blind user. please exclood Nokia.
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Re: [AI] Talking weighing scale found

2018-12-03 Thread Pramit

Thanks. this is really useful.

How accurate is it?

Pramit

On 12/3/2018 2:38 PM, sidnc1...@gmail.com wrote:

Guys,
I got my Venus weighing scale today. As of now, it seems to be priced higher at 
1149 against last week’s 894. It works well for me.
1) You stand on it and it says “Hello”
2) Then it takes some time to stabilize measurement.
3) Then it announces your weight twice saying “Your weight is 72.7 KG”
4) You get off the scale, it says “Powering down”

Here is the URL again for anyone who might need: 
https://www.amazon.in/Venus-VTS-1999-Electronic-Personal-Weighing/dp/B079GSPFRN

Hope this helps!
Regards,
Siddhant
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: sampath raj rao
Sent: Saturday, December 1, 2018 7:20 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Talking weighing scale found

Thank you sir, even Iam looking for one...

On 11/30/18, Ajay Minocha  wrote:

@Mohit, there is only one model by Mi, search on Amazzon and you will
easily find it.

HTH,
Ajay

On 30/11/2018, mohammadwaseem khan  wrote:

Yes, it is the same Venus.
as far as its accuracy is concerned I cannot say surely anything about it
since I don't have other device to compare with but as far as my weight is
concerned it informed me almost  correct

On Fri, Nov 30, 2018, 6:34 PM sampath raj rao 
Hi sir, how far is the venus device accurate in its answers?
some reviews say that it is not accurate, what about your experience?
And one more query with regard the brand name "Venus", is it the Venus
firm that manufactures electronic items like water heaters?


On 11/30/18, mohammadwaseem khan  wrote:

Hey,
I have ordered and receive the following product from Amazon From the
following URL
Venus VTS-1999 Light Weight...
https://www.amazon.in/dp/B079GSPFRN?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf
After using the machine what I found is, it has no physical buttons so
there is no need to on or off the machine. That means after putting two
batteries in the machine it automatically gets power on. Just stand on

the

glass of the machine it will automatically announce the weight like
your
weight is 54 kg or your weight is 55.7 kilogram. After announcing the

await

twice it automatically gets power down and it will also announce
powering
off

On Fri, Nov 30, 2018, 12:16 PM 
I’ll be getting the ordered weighing scale by Monday. Once I get it,

I’ll

update the thread with feedback on that weighing scale.

With best regards,
Siddhant

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Mohit Gupta
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 7:56 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues

concerning

the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Talking weighing scale found

hi ajay,
pleae provide exact model number or link from amezon.

On 11/28/18, Ajay Minocha  wrote:

Hi,

Recently bought Mi smart weighing scale for my visually impaired
sister, the machine pairs with Mi fit app which is reasonablly
accessible. In addition to your weight, it can also calculate BMI
and
other vitals provided you mention your hight and other dimentions in
your profile on the Mi Fit app.

HTH,
Ajay

On 28/11/2018, sidnc1...@gmail.com  wrote:

Hi guys,

I searched for this thread as I needed one as well. But these seem
to
be
out
of market now. In case anyone needs, I came across a weighing scale

by

Venus
at


https://www.amazon.in/Venus-VTS-1999-Electronic-Personal-Weighing/dp/B079GSPFRN

which is now priced at 894 INR.

Hope this helps someone and saves his/her effort of searching. In

case

this
product also goes out of market in future, here’s what I searched
for
to
hit
the nail: ‘Weighing scale with "Talking feature"’

Regards,
Siddhant

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Sumathi
Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 4:27 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues

concerning

the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Talking weighing scale found

is that draining the battery soon? Mine does.
- Original Message -
From: "Vikas Kapoor" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning
the disabled." 
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Talking weighing scale found



I already have it for a long time... Another best thing about that
it

uses

the standard AAA batteries.
  - Original Message -
  From: Prashant Verma
  To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning the disabled.'
  Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 9:12 AM
  Subject: [AI] Talking weighing scale found


  Hi all,
  Just wanted to let you know that a mainstream product HEALTHSENSE

PS

121

is
  a good option for a talking weighing scale for the visually

impaired.

  I have bought it online from Amazon and it is working properly.
  It is listed on several online retailers at prices around Rs.
1000.
At
times
  it goes out of stock.

  Just stand on it and it will tell your weight in a loud and clear

voice.

  Best,
  Prashant


  -Original Message-
  From: AccessIndia 

[AI] Jobs for person with disability at Cummins India

2018-12-03 Thread Mohammed Tausif Iqbal
Dear Access Indian,
Cummins have a wings committee" aims at working on specially able
projects focusing on leveraging specially able talent through creating
inclusive environment.

on the occasion of International day of disability, we requires resume
 of specialy able candidate who is seeking job opportunities, after
receiving such resume, we would be working on placing right talent
based on merit and current Jobs opennings.

Interested candidate can email your resume at
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Warm Greetings,



-- 
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Re: [AI] Talking weighing scale found

2018-12-03 Thread sidnc1986
Guys,
I got my Venus weighing scale today. As of now, it seems to be priced higher at 
1149 against last week’s 894. It works well for me. 
1) You stand on it and it says “Hello”
2) Then it takes some time to stabilize measurement. 
3) Then it announces your weight twice saying “Your weight is 72.7 KG”
4) You get off the scale, it says “Powering down”

Here is the URL again for anyone who might need: 
https://www.amazon.in/Venus-VTS-1999-Electronic-Personal-Weighing/dp/B079GSPFRN

Hope this helps!
Regards,
Siddhant
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: sampath raj rao
Sent: Saturday, December 1, 2018 7:20 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Talking weighing scale found

Thank you sir, even Iam looking for one...

On 11/30/18, Ajay Minocha  wrote:
> @Mohit, there is only one model by Mi, search on Amazzon and you will
> easily find it.
>
> HTH,
> Ajay
>
> On 30/11/2018, mohammadwaseem khan  wrote:
>> Yes, it is the same Venus.
>> as far as its accuracy is concerned I cannot say surely anything about it
>> since I don't have other device to compare with but as far as my weight is
>> concerned it informed me almost  correct
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 30, 2018, 6:34 PM sampath raj rao > wrote:
>>
>>> Hi sir, how far is the venus device accurate in its answers?
>>> some reviews say that it is not accurate, what about your experience?
>>> And one more query with regard the brand name "Venus", is it the Venus
>>> firm that manufactures electronic items like water heaters?
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/30/18, mohammadwaseem khan  wrote:
>>> > Hey,
>>> > I have ordered and receive the following product from Amazon From the
>>> > following URL
>>> > Venus VTS-1999 Light Weight...
>>> > https://www.amazon.in/dp/B079GSPFRN?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf
>>> > After using the machine what I found is, it has no physical buttons so
>>> > there is no need to on or off the machine. That means after putting two
>>> > batteries in the machine it automatically gets power on. Just stand on
>>> the
>>> > glass of the machine it will automatically announce the weight like
>>> > your
>>> > weight is 54 kg or your weight is 55.7 kilogram. After announcing the
>>> await
>>> > twice it automatically gets power down and it will also announce
>>> > powering
>>> > off
>>> >
>>> > On Fri, Nov 30, 2018, 12:16 PM >> >
>>> >> I’ll be getting the ordered weighing scale by Monday. Once I get it,
>>> I’ll
>>> >> update the thread with feedback on that weighing scale.
>>> >>
>>> >> With best regards,
>>> >> Siddhant
>>> >>
>>> >> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>>> >>
>>> >> From: Mohit Gupta
>>> >> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 7:56 AM
>>> >> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerning
>>> >> the disabled.
>>> >> Subject: Re: [AI] Talking weighing scale found
>>> >>
>>> >> hi ajay,
>>> >> pleae provide exact model number or link from amezon.
>>> >>
>>> >> On 11/28/18, Ajay Minocha  wrote:
>>> >> > Hi,
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Recently bought Mi smart weighing scale for my visually impaired
>>> >> > sister, the machine pairs with Mi fit app which is reasonablly
>>> >> > accessible. In addition to your weight, it can also calculate BMI
>>> >> > and
>>> >> > other vitals provided you mention your hight and other dimentions in
>>> >> > your profile on the Mi Fit app.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > HTH,
>>> >> > Ajay
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On 28/11/2018, sidnc1...@gmail.com  wrote:
>>> >> >> Hi guys,
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> I searched for this thread as I needed one as well. But these seem
>>> >> >> to
>>> >> >> be
>>> >> >> out
>>> >> >> of market now. In case anyone needs, I came across a weighing scale
>>> by
>>> >> >> Venus
>>> >> >> at
>>> >> >>
>>> >>
>>> https://www.amazon.in/Venus-VTS-1999-Electronic-Personal-Weighing/dp/B079GSPFRN
>>> >> >> which is now priced at 894 INR.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Hope this helps someone and saves his/her effort of searching. In
>>> case
>>> >> >> this
>>> >> >> product also goes out of market in future, here’s what I searched
>>> >> >> for
>>> >> >> to
>>> >> >> hit
>>> >> >> the nail: ‘Weighing scale with "Talking feature"’
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Regards,
>>> >> >> Siddhant
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> From: Sumathi
>>> >> >> Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 4:27 PM
>>> >> >> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> >> concerning
>>> >> >> the disabled.
>>> >> >> Subject: Re: [AI] Talking weighing scale found
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> is that draining the battery soon? Mine does.
>>> >> >> - Original Message -
>>> >> >> From: "Vikas Kapoor" 
>>> >> >> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> >> >> concerning
>>> >> >> the disabled." 
>>> >> >> Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 12:16 PM
>>> >> >> Subject: Re: [AI] Talking weighing scale found
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>>I already have it for a long time... Another best thing about that
>>> >> >>> it
>>> >> uses
>>> >> >>>the 

Re: [AI] Independent charge eludes Disabilities Commissioner.

2018-12-03 Thread bhawani shankar verma

don't compare modi government with congress. our secular friends may object.


-Original Message- 
From: A K Dua

Sent: Monday, December 03, 2018 2:11 PM
To: AccessIndia: A. List for Discussing Accessibility and Issues Concerning 
the Disabled.

Subject: [AI] Independent charge eludes Disabilities Commissioner.

Is the Indian National congress unconcerned with about the disabled
community in the country. Last week there was a report about Karnataka
State yet to implement the RPWD Act 2016. Now it is Punjab. Afterall it was
the Modi Government which thought about the disabled; by launching the
accessible India Campaign, promoting Sugamaya Pustakalaya, coining the term
Divyangjan – atleast showing their concern; besides getting the RPWD Act
cleared in Parliament. Here is the Punjab story in The Tribune Today:

Two years after the Parliament passed the Rights of Persons with
Disabilities Act, 2016, the state is yet to appoint an independent
Commissioner for Disabilities, who is saddled with three other portfolios.


Commissioner for Disabilities Kumar Rahul is also the
Secretary-cum-Director, Mining, and Secretary, Home Affairs, Justice and
Jail. He was appointed in February. Before him, the post was vacant for
several months.

Disability activists demand an independent Commissioner for Disabilities as
they claim their grievances go unaddressed.

Read more:
http://ourcivilsociety.com/independent-charge-eludes-disabilities-commissioner/



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[AI] Independent charge eludes Disabilities Commissioner.

2018-12-03 Thread A K Dua
Is the Indian National congress unconcerned with about the disabled
community in the country. Last week there was a report about Karnataka
State yet to implement the RPWD Act 2016. Now it is Punjab. Afterall it was
the Modi Government which thought about the disabled; by launching the
accessible India Campaign, promoting Sugamaya Pustakalaya, coining the term
Divyangjan – atleast showing their concern; besides getting the RPWD Act
cleared in Parliament. Here is the Punjab story in The Tribune Today:

Two years after the Parliament passed the Rights of Persons with
Disabilities Act, 2016, the state is yet to appoint an independent
Commissioner for Disabilities, who is saddled with three other portfolios.


Commissioner for Disabilities Kumar Rahul is also the
Secretary-cum-Director, Mining, and Secretary, Home Affairs, Justice and
Jail. He was appointed in February. Before him, the post was vacant for
several months.

Disability activists demand an independent Commissioner for Disabilities as
they claim their grievances go unaddressed.

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Re: [AI] Sensory substitution in blind?

2018-12-03 Thread Kotian, H P
Dear Doc

Fully agree with you regarding scientifically testing, replicating it etc.

What if, there is a pool of kids who can scientifically demonstrate that they 
can read blind folded etc. Is it not scientific then to test the result and 
thereafter figure out the mechanisms involved.

Why is it that no effort is done in that direction and merely rubbish the claim?

Would you as a doctor do the honors then?

I for one would hold my tongue until proven this is all a hoax and give the 
benefit of doubt. Let us not be caught in the nomenclature of mid brain 
activation etc. Let us first establish the fact that the kids trained in this 
technique can read blindfold and there is no cheating here.

I don't think this should be difficult to establish. Preferably please 
videograph?
Would you pl revert on this please?

Would be eagerly awaiting to hear about the findings.

Harish.


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Sharad Philip
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 10:38 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. 
Subject: Re: [AI] Sensory substitution in blind?

Dear sir
I have been following this thread for the past few days . Being a medical 
doctor by training , i feel i should weigh in here and clarify some things you 
are saying here .

Firstly , mainstream medical scientists as you call them are not a vile 
community that is looking out for personal commercial interests . Those in 
research and in clinical practice rarely overlap .anyhow , no one whether as a 
person or a community is specifically interested in benefiting from another 
human being s suffering or disability . As and when avenues of treatment / 
paliation have come up they have been brought into clinical practice after 
rigorous examinations by the scientific method . The sole aim for such an 
exercise is to ensure replicability of results . It a little bit more 
complicated than saying a pre and post comparison . There needs to be an 
understanding of why anything works , for whom it works , for those it did not 
work for why did not , what are the best parameters and qualifying situations , 
whether there are any ill effects for those healthy , any ill effects for those 
in need of the intervention , is there a way to predict who would benefit and 
who would not , and many other things . This is possible when the intervention 
is rooted in some physiological , pharmacological , biochemical basis .

In the context of what is being discussed here , there is no physiological or 
any other scientific basis . The Midbrain is actually a part of the brain that 
controls a lot of vital functions such as respiration , body temperature etc 
amongst others . Some nerve fibers from the processing centres for vision do 
pass through this area . These also control some basic pursuit movements of the 
eye . Apart from this there also other cranial nerves that mediate taste , 
touch , and the movements of face and neck muscles . However in the MIDBRAIN 
activation programs that are being discussed here , the midbrain referred to i 
s something in between the right and the left !!

The only thing between the right and left hemispheres of the Brain is the 
connection system called the corpus callosum . There is no separate right and 
left Brain as is commonly referred to in these writings ! All right handed 
individuals are left dominant - a terminology used to refer to the fact that 
these people have their speech areas in the left hemispheres . Those left 
handed are more than 90% left dominant while a few are right dominant . This 
just implies that certain functions are subserved by certain areas . . Being 
right brained and left brained is something not based in neuroscience . Then 
where would the midbrain be is what should be asked !

If the intervention works to reduce the impairment , i am happy as any of you 
would be but i would still want to know how it does . Unlike common belief , 
ill effects also plague any intervention - whether psychological , or any 
activation whatsoever . It is just that they are not recognised or identified . 
It would only be possible to identify such things in controlled studies . But 
alas , there is little scope for that to happen . An y such intervention when 
conducted by persons with specific training weds to weed out subjectiity 
minimise chance results and identify placebo effects . Such a controlled 
situation is rarely the case .

Anyhow this is all i wanted to say and i hope it helped . With best regards

Sharad



> On 30-Nov-2018, at 4:20 PM, P. Subramani  wrote:
>
> obviously mainstream medical scientists will never ever verify and certify 
> the potents of alternate medicines/treatments as the medical scientists will 
> loss their business.
> - Original Message - From: "Ved" 
> To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
> concerning the disabled.'" 
> 

Re: [AI] suggest a good phone under 20K

2018-12-03 Thread anil kumar
Motorola one power is the best if you do not like the Nokia brand

On Mon, Dec 3, 2018, 1:04 PM Maruti Paramwad  Hello all,
>
> Greetings of the day!
> friends, as above subject says, please suggest me any good Android
> Phone under 20K for the blind user. please exclood Nokia.
>
> --
> Thanks and Regards
> Maruti Paramwad
> Email Id: mparam...@gmail.com
> Skype id: maruti.paramwad1
>
>
>
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