Re: [AI] Re: Looking for Cellular provider with Accessible App and helpdesk

[anirudh rao]

hi Yamuna Jivana Dasa,
as Vikas said the talktime packs are relevant for ISD calls and one
more thing to note is that talktimes can be used even when you do not
have the unlimited pack.
however, I do agree with your point that companies make these
professional humiliation by announcing everyone who calls by telling
that the person has not recharged his number which is very much wrong.

On 3/23/23, Vikas Kapoor  wrote:
> Dear Yamuna, most of the providers could not sustain due to market
> competition due to excessive cheap call rates that were offered with
> lifetime validity by the companies. And, owing to this, most of the
> companies were not able to improve their infrastructure and finally
> some of them collapsed and some of them merged with some other big
> companies.
> As per your other question, the talk times are still relevant to
> enable the customers to make ISD calls which are not bundled with the
> recharge packs.
>
> On 23/03/2023, Yamuna Jivana dasa (Yogan)  wrote:
>> Dear Vikas Kapoor,
>>
>> This is interesting. I wonder how did they manage to illiminate the other
>> providers. Is it about price-fixing and plans-fixing here in India? In
>> sSouth Africa we have a free-market system in which generally this type
>> of
>> price-fixing is illegal. Anything like that in India to protect the
>> consumer
>>
>> and encourage better competition between providers offerings?
>>
>> To bring this on-topic for this group, I suspect such competition will
>> see
>> more providers wanting to make their products accessible to more people,
>> hence accessibility build into Apps Etc.
>>
>> Yamuna Jivana Dasa
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Vikas Kapoor
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2023 10:22 PM
>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Re: Looking for Cellular provider with Accessible App
>> and
>>
>> helpdesk
>>
>> Forget about that, gone are those days when you have unit-based
>> charges, the most pathetic story here in India is that everyone apes
>> the other one. In any case, at one point of time, we in India used to
>> have nearly 8 service providers which has now been reduced to only 2
>> or 3. So, each service provider has almost the same structure of call
>> charges and tariffs.
>>
>> On 22/03/2023, Yamuna Jivana dasa (Yogan)  wrote:
>>> Hi Folks,
>>> I’m adding one more item to this list which I forgot in my previous
>>> message.
>>> I am looking for your personal experience on a combination of the
>>> following
>>> factors:
>>> 1. A cellular provider whose App is accessible to Talkback for Android,
>>> or
>>> which uses a good Web interface to view account balance and prepaid
>>> history
>>> that can be navigated from a PC Web Browser.
>>> 2. A cellular provider which offers simple pricing without funny bells
>>> and
>>> whistles but does what it is supposed to do: allows the user to make
>>> phone
>>> calls and use Data at the best prices.
>>> 3. If possible, a cellular provider which charges by usage unit prices
>>> and
>>> not by expiry dates.
>>> 4. A cellular provider which has a helpdesk number that actually
>>> effectively
>>> leads to a human operator.
>>>
>>> Any advice will be appreciated. You can write me off-list if this might
>>> hog
>>> the list, although I believe the accessibility questions may prove
>>> useful
>>>
>>> to
>>> others here.
>>>
>>>
>>> Yamuna Jivana Dasa
>>>
>>> From: Harish Kotian
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2023 11:31 AM
>>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in ; Muralidharan Vishwanath
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Issues with UDID
>>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> It is necessary to start with a deadline.Sure enough, looking at the
>>> data
>>>
>>> it
>>> will be extended. Glad to know you concur with UDID implementation.We
>>> have
>>> seen with linking PAN with Adhar, the deadline was extended.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We too tend to lax without a deadline.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> May I clear the myth which tends to be propagated in some quarters that
>>> I
>>>
>>> am
>>> arbitrary in intervening in a flamed and out of scope postings.It was
>>> certainly spelt out without context presently.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In many occasion in the past there was a effort to have a single
>>> disability
>>> card. However, the effort was halfhearted then. Hopefully, linked with
>>> Adhar
>>> it really happens.
>>>
>>> We too need to keep the pressure that it happens.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Harish
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 19/03/2023 10:47, Muralidharan Vishwanath wrote:
>>>
>>>   For your information, it is the NPRD which advocated for a universally
>>> valid ID for disabled right at its inception in 2010.
>>>   It was also  at the NPRD's behest that the universal validity of the
>>> disability certificate was incorporated into the RPD Act, 2016.
>>>
>>>   Therefore, the allegation that we are attempting to"stalling" this
>>> effort
>>> is baseless and malafide. (I am sure, I too will be kicked out of the
>>> list
>>> now).
>>>
>>>   But the DEPwD is setting a deadline of April 1, 2023 even while more
>>> than

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Re: [AI] IndiGo does it again

[Prerna Sobti]

Just because one Personal appreciated that this does not mean everyone else has 
to follow in the same footsteps. One needs to voice out their personal opinion 
and share what happened with an individual individually not be part of a crowd

Prerna Sobti 

> On 23-Mar-2023, at 7:36 PM, Payal Ki Jhankar  wrote:
> 
> 
> Asif,
> When and airlines is trying to convince you, that you have had an experience 
> in isolation, that is a problem in itself. Like I mentioned earlier, I have 
> not had a problem with that in the past either,  but, the more people see the 
> post, the more reports of their insensitive, and callous behaviour is coming 
> forward. I always give appreciation, where it is due. Here, in this instance, 
> it does not count.
> I will continue doing what I have to to drive the point home, for everyone 
> person who has a good experience, there are four others who don't.
> Payal
> 
>> On Thu, 23 Mar 2023 at 7:12 PM, 'Mohammed Asif Asif Iqbal (IN)' via 
>> AccessIndia  wrote:
>> Hi Payal,
>> Hope your Indigo issue is sorted now.
>> I am sure like many others; I had very positive experience flying with
>> Indigo and personally feel that they are very sensitive  airlines
>> along with Vistara.
>> Only airlines to make public announcement of braille safety manual
>> available in board for visually  impaired passenger and I am sure that
>> many other airlines also have braile safety manual.
>> In my opinion; airlines is driven by people and I am sure that they
>> would make mistake in meeting our expectation and rapid a chern out of
>> of new people joining they might not completely embarked on empathy
>> while delivering service to customer with disability. 90% of their
>> experiences in terms of handling customer with disability is fair and
>> few would certainly not be acceptable.
>> Payal: I am glad that you raised your voice and am happy to know that
>> airlines apologize to you and knowing Indigo they will initiate steps
>> to ensure that this incident does not occur in the future.  Matter of
>> fact; we all should raise our voice when our rights are being
>> violated.
>> In era of highly insensitive eco-system; I personally feel that few
>> airlines are sensitive and we all from blind community should
>> strengthened our relationship by also sharing appreciation note to
>> airlines for delivering service with empathy to passenger with
>> disability. Perhaps our appreciation would inspire them to enhance
>> their service delivery mechanism specially to blind passengers and
>> other passengers with disability.
>> Let's all play our part in sensitizing external community for
>> inclusive experience.
>> Kind regards
>> Asif
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 3/21/23, Mohammed Asif Asif Iqbal (IN)  
>> wrote:
>> > Hi Payal,
>> > Sad to learn about your ordeal.
>> > Generally Indigo are really good in terms of providing assistance to Pwd
>> > fliers.
>> > Hope they learn.
>> > Asif
>> >
>> > On 3/21/23, Payal Ki Jhankar  wrote:
>> >> For all those times that we have had to worry about being left behind at
>> >> the Airport, this was just one more time, when, on a return flight from
>> >> Goa, the ground staff simply didn't show up when boarding was announced.
>> >> When we manage to find someone to get me to board, no one in flight had
>> >> any
>> >> clue of a blind passenger on board. I tweeted about it, to no avail. It
>> >> took them over 10 days, and an amplified tweet to even bother to respond.
>> >> I
>> >> decided to take it to the press, in the meantime.
>> >>
>> >> https://m.timesofindia.com/city/hyderabad/indigo-staff-abandons-visually-impaired-flyer/articleshow/98840563.cms?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=TOIHyderabad
>> >>
>> >> Payal
>> >>
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Re: [AI] IndiGo does it again

[Prerna Sobti]

> Ay agree with what you have written!

Payal love and hugs and strength to you for raising the issue and putting a 
strong foot forward to show your displeasure Kanchana to Juby the voice for the 
disabled community

Best

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Re: [AI] IndiGo does it again

[Payal Ki Jhankar]

Asif,
When and airlines is trying to convince you, that you have had an
experience in isolation, that is a problem in itself. Like I mentioned
earlier, I have not had a problem with that in the past either,  but, the
more people see the post, the more reports of their insensitive, and
callous behaviour is coming forward. I always give appreciation, where it
is due. Here, in this instance, it does not count.
I will continue doing what I have to to drive the point home, for everyone
person who has a good experience, there are four others who don't.
Payal

On Thu, 23 Mar 2023 at 7:12 PM, 'Mohammed Asif Asif Iqbal (IN)' via
AccessIndia  wrote:

> Hi Payal,
> Hope your Indigo issue is sorted now.
> I am sure like many others; I had very positive experience flying with
> Indigo and personally feel that they are very sensitive  airlines
> along with Vistara.
> Only airlines to make public announcement of braille safety manual
> available in board for visually  impaired passenger and I am sure that
> many other airlines also have braile safety manual.
> In my opinion; airlines is driven by people and I am sure that they
> would make mistake in meeting our expectation and rapid a chern out of
> of new people joining they might not completely embarked on empathy
> while delivering service to customer with disability. 90% of their
> experiences in terms of handling customer with disability is fair and
> few would certainly not be acceptable.
> Payal: I am glad that you raised your voice and am happy to know that
> airlines apologize to you and knowing Indigo they will initiate steps
> to ensure that this incident does not occur in the future.  Matter of
> fact; we all should raise our voice when our rights are being
> violated.
> In era of highly insensitive eco-system; I personally feel that few
> airlines are sensitive and we all from blind community should
> strengthened our relationship by also sharing appreciation note to
> airlines for delivering service with empathy to passenger with
> disability. Perhaps our appreciation would inspire them to enhance
> their service delivery mechanism specially to blind passengers and
> other passengers with disability.
> Let's all play our part in sensitizing external community for
> inclusive experience.
> Kind regards
> Asif
>
>
>
>
> On 3/21/23, Mohammed Asif Asif Iqbal (IN) 
> wrote:
> > Hi Payal,
> > Sad to learn about your ordeal.
> > Generally Indigo are really good in terms of providing assistance to Pwd
> > fliers.
> > Hope they learn.
> > Asif
> >
> > On 3/21/23, Payal Ki Jhankar  wrote:
> >> For all those times that we have had to worry about being left behind at
> >> the Airport, this was just one more time, when, on a return flight from
> >> Goa, the ground staff simply didn't show up when boarding was announced.
> >> When we manage to find someone to get me to board, no one in flight had
> >> any
> >> clue of a blind passenger on board. I tweeted about it, to no avail. It
> >> took them over 10 days, and an amplified tweet to even bother to
> respond.
> >> I
> >> decided to take it to the press, in the meantime.
> >>
> >>
> https://m.timesofindia.com/city/hyderabad/indigo-staff-abandons-visually-impaired-flyer/articleshow/98840563.cms?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=TOIHyderabad
> >>
> >> Payal
> >>
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> >>
> >
> >
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Re: [AI] IndiGo does it again

['Mohammed Asif Asif Iqbal (IN)' via AccessIndia]

Hi Payal,
Hope your Indigo issue is sorted now.
I am sure like many others; I had very positive experience flying with
Indigo and personally feel that they are very sensitive  airlines
along with Vistara.
Only airlines to make public announcement of braille safety manual
available in board for visually  impaired passenger and I am sure that
many other airlines also have braile safety manual.
In my opinion; airlines is driven by people and I am sure that they
would make mistake in meeting our expectation and rapid a chern out of
of new people joining they might not completely embarked on empathy
while delivering service to customer with disability. 90% of their
experiences in terms of handling customer with disability is fair and
few would certainly not be acceptable.
Payal: I am glad that you raised your voice and am happy to know that
airlines apologize to you and knowing Indigo they will initiate steps
to ensure that this incident does not occur in the future.  Matter of
fact; we all should raise our voice when our rights are being
violated.
In era of highly insensitive eco-system; I personally feel that few
airlines are sensitive and we all from blind community should
strengthened our relationship by also sharing appreciation note to
airlines for delivering service with empathy to passenger with
disability. Perhaps our appreciation would inspire them to enhance
their service delivery mechanism specially to blind passengers and
other passengers with disability.
Let's all play our part in sensitizing external community for
inclusive experience.
Kind regards
Asif




On 3/21/23, Mohammed Asif Asif Iqbal (IN)  wrote:
> Hi Payal,
> Sad to learn about your ordeal.
> Generally Indigo are really good in terms of providing assistance to Pwd
> fliers.
> Hope they learn.
> Asif
>
> On 3/21/23, Payal Ki Jhankar  wrote:
>> For all those times that we have had to worry about being left behind at
>> the Airport, this was just one more time, when, on a return flight from
>> Goa, the ground staff simply didn't show up when boarding was announced.
>> When we manage to find someone to get me to board, no one in flight had
>> any
>> clue of a blind passenger on board. I tweeted about it, to no avail. It
>> took them over 10 days, and an amplified tweet to even bother to respond.
>> I
>> decided to take it to the press, in the meantime.
>>
>> https://m.timesofindia.com/city/hyderabad/indigo-staff-abandons-visually-impaired-flyer/articleshow/98840563.cms?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=TOIHyderabad
>>
>> Payal
>>
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>>
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>>
>
>
> --
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> Email: mohammed.asif.iq...@pwc.com
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> 56 & 57, Block DN
> Sector V, Salt Lake
> Kolkata 700091
> http://www.pwc.com/in
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Re: [AI] Re: Looking for Cellular provider with Accessible App and helpdesk

[Vikas Kapoor]

Dear Yamuna, most of the providers could not sustain due to market
competition due to excessive cheap call rates that were offered with
lifetime validity by the companies. And, owing to this, most of the
companies were not able to improve their infrastructure and finally
some of them collapsed and some of them merged with some other big
companies.
As per your other question, the talk times are still relevant to
enable the customers to make ISD calls which are not bundled with the
recharge packs.

On 23/03/2023, Yamuna Jivana dasa (Yogan)  wrote:
> Dear Vikas Kapoor,
>
> This is interesting. I wonder how did they manage to illiminate the other
> providers. Is it about price-fixing and plans-fixing here in India? In
> sSouth Africa we have a free-market system in which generally this type of
> price-fixing is illegal. Anything like that in India to protect the consumer
>
> and encourage better competition between providers offerings?
>
> To bring this on-topic for this group, I suspect such competition will see
> more providers wanting to make their products accessible to more people,
> hence accessibility build into Apps Etc.
>
> Yamuna Jivana Dasa
> -Original Message-
> From: Vikas Kapoor
> Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2023 10:22 PM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] Re: Looking for Cellular provider with Accessible App and
>
> helpdesk
>
> Forget about that, gone are those days when you have unit-based
> charges, the most pathetic story here in India is that everyone apes
> the other one. In any case, at one point of time, we in India used to
> have nearly 8 service providers which has now been reduced to only 2
> or 3. So, each service provider has almost the same structure of call
> charges and tariffs.
>
> On 22/03/2023, Yamuna Jivana dasa (Yogan)  wrote:
>> Hi Folks,
>> I’m adding one more item to this list which I forgot in my previous
>> message.
>> I am looking for your personal experience on a combination of the
>> following
>> factors:
>> 1. A cellular provider whose App is accessible to Talkback for Android,
>> or
>> which uses a good Web interface to view account balance and prepaid
>> history
>> that can be navigated from a PC Web Browser.
>> 2. A cellular provider which offers simple pricing without funny bells
>> and
>> whistles but does what it is supposed to do: allows the user to make
>> phone
>> calls and use Data at the best prices.
>> 3. If possible, a cellular provider which charges by usage unit prices
>> and
>> not by expiry dates.
>> 4. A cellular provider which has a helpdesk number that actually
>> effectively
>> leads to a human operator.
>>
>> Any advice will be appreciated. You can write me off-list if this might
>> hog
>> the list, although I believe the accessibility questions may prove useful
>>
>> to
>> others here.
>>
>>
>> Yamuna Jivana Dasa
>>
>> From: Harish Kotian
>> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2023 11:31 AM
>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in ; Muralidharan Vishwanath
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Issues with UDID
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> It is necessary to start with a deadline.Sure enough, looking at the data
>>
>> it
>> will be extended. Glad to know you concur with UDID implementation.We
>> have
>> seen with linking PAN with Adhar, the deadline was extended.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> We too tend to lax without a deadline.
>>
>>
>>
>> May I clear the myth which tends to be propagated in some quarters that I
>>
>> am
>> arbitrary in intervening in a flamed and out of scope postings.It was
>> certainly spelt out without context presently.
>>
>>
>>
>> In many occasion in the past there was a effort to have a single
>> disability
>> card. However, the effort was halfhearted then. Hopefully, linked with
>> Adhar
>> it really happens.
>>
>> We too need to keep the pressure that it happens.
>>
>>
>>
>> Harish
>>
>>
>>
>> On 19/03/2023 10:47, Muralidharan Vishwanath wrote:
>>
>>   For your information, it is the NPRD which advocated for a universally
>> valid ID for disabled right at its inception in 2010.
>>   It was also  at the NPRD's behest that the universal validity of the
>> disability certificate was incorporated into the RPD Act, 2016.
>>
>>   Therefore, the allegation that we are attempting to"stalling" this
>> effort
>> is baseless and malafide. (I am sure, I too will be kicked out of the
>> list
>> now).
>>
>>   But the DEPwD is setting a deadline of April 1, 2023 even while more
>> than
>> half of the disabled population who possess disability certificates have
>> not
>> been issued UDID cards. How can this be accepted?
>>
>>   Secondly, the central government's own departments do not accept the
>> UDID
>> - railways for instance insists that one should procure the card that it
>> is
>> issuing. Every year several cases are highlighted of MBBS aspirants whose
>> UDID cards are rejected and a reverification of their disability done at
>> designated centres. This defeats the very purpose of the UDID.
>>
>>   I am not going into the various issues with the procureme

Re: [AI] Audi vision app testing

[malathi Vb]

Dear sir
Are you planning to have this session in chennai and other cities.  If so,
my son and others in chennai will also get benefitted .
With regards
Malathi

On Thu, 23 Mar 2023, 17:00 Khandu Bhandare, 
wrote:

> Dear All,
>
> Do you want to learn a multi-purpose app and instantly wish to give
> feedback about the app to a developer directly? Here are the chances for
> you for the AudiVision App.
>
> Greetings from the XRCVC, St. Xavier's College, Mumbai on theme "Let
> Understand AudiVision App". This workshop is supported by SBI Foundation
> COE.
>
> AudiVision: discover the world via voice. App uses A.I. technology to help
> them independently perform daily chores like - identifying products &
> medicines, find expiry date, read documents, and more. It will also assist
> them to stay safe during pandemic by identifying if the people around are
> wearing masks or if the commute is crowded.
>
> Those interested should kindly register by using the link given below.
>
> https://forms.gle/sZBegEU586Aimwtf6
>
> Criteria: Talkback User
>
> Note: During the session user need to bring their own android phone with
> personal earphone/headphone and internet connectivity.
>
> When: Saturday, 25th March 2023
>
> Timings
>
> ●   Batch 1 from 11 AM to 1 PM
>
> ●   Batch 2 from 2 PM to 4 PM
>
> Venue: XRCVC-Viviana Extension, Viviana Mall, Thane
>
> For further queries regarding the workshop, please call us on 02235223298
> / 02235223300, or You can write to kes...@xrcvc.org / sus...@xrcvc.org
>
> Important Note
>
> 1. The registration form of the workshop will close at 6.00 pm on 23rd
> March 2023, Thursday.
> 2. Confirmation email will be sent on 24th March 2023, Friday to the
> participants.
> 3. Participants are requested to use their personal earphones/headphones
> during the session.
> 4. Participants will have to make their own meal arrangements.
> 5. Covid protocol will have to be followed
>
> Best Regards
>
> Team XRCVC
>
> Xavier's Resource Centre for the Visually Challenged (XRCVC)
>
> XRCVC, St. Xavier's College, Mumbai | XRCVC-Viviana Extension, Viviana
> Mall, Thane
>
> www.xrcvc.org
>
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[AI] Audi vision app testing

[Khandu Bhandare]

Dear All,

Do you want to learn a multi-purpose app and instantly wish to give feedback 
about the app to a developer directly? Here are the chances for you for the 
AudiVision App.

Greetings from the XRCVC, St. Xavier's College, Mumbai on theme "Let Understand 
AudiVision App". This workshop is supported by SBI Foundation COE.

AudiVision: discover the world via voice. App uses A.I. technology to help them 
independently perform daily chores like - identifying products & medicines, 
find expiry date, read documents, and more. It will also assist them to stay 
safe during pandemic by identifying if the people around are wearing masks or 
if the commute is crowded.

Those interested should kindly register by using the link given below.

https://forms.gle/sZBegEU586Aimwtf6

Criteria: Talkback User

Note: During the session user need to bring their own android phone with 
personal earphone/headphone and internet connectivity.

When: Saturday, 25th March 2023

Timings

●   Batch 1 from 11 AM to 1 PM

●   Batch 2 from 2 PM to 4 PM

Venue: XRCVC-Viviana Extension, Viviana Mall, Thane 

For further queries regarding the workshop, please call us on 02235223298 / 
02235223300, or You can write to kes...@xrcvc.org / sus...@xrcvc.org

Important Note

1. The registration form of the workshop will close at 6.00 pm on 23rd March 
2023, Thursday.
2. Confirmation email will be sent on 24th March 2023, Friday to the 
participants.
3. Participants are requested to use their personal earphones/headphones during 
the session.
4. Participants will have to make their own meal arrangements.
5. Covid protocol will have to be followed

Best Regards

Team XRCVC

Xavier's Resource Centre for the Visually Challenged (XRCVC)

XRCVC, St. Xavier's College, Mumbai | XRCVC-Viviana Extension, Viviana Mall, 
Thane

www.xrcvc.org

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Re: [AI] Re: Looking for Cellular provider with Accessible App and helpdesk

[Yamuna Jivana dasa (Yogan)]

Dear Vikas Kapoor,

This is interesting. I wonder how did they manage to illiminate the other 
providers. Is it about price-fixing and plans-fixing here in India? In 
sSouth Africa we have a free-market system in which generally this type of 
price-fixing is illegal. Anything like that in India to protect the consumer 
and encourage better competition between providers offerings?


To bring this on-topic for this group, I suspect such competition will see 
more providers wanting to make their products accessible to more people, 
hence accessibility build into Apps Etc.


Yamuna Jivana Dasa
-Original Message- 
From: Vikas Kapoor

Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2023 10:22 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Re: Looking for Cellular provider with Accessible App and 
helpdesk


Forget about that, gone are those days when you have unit-based
charges, the most pathetic story here in India is that everyone apes
the other one. In any case, at one point of time, we in India used to
have nearly 8 service providers which has now been reduced to only 2
or 3. So, each service provider has almost the same structure of call
charges and tariffs.

On 22/03/2023, Yamuna Jivana dasa (Yogan)  wrote:

Hi Folks,
I’m adding one more item to this list which I forgot in my previous
message.
I am looking for your personal experience on a combination of the 
following

factors:
1. A cellular provider whose App is accessible to Talkback for Android, or
which uses a good Web interface to view account balance and prepaid 
history

that can be navigated from a PC Web Browser.
2. A cellular provider which offers simple pricing without funny bells and
whistles but does what it is supposed to do: allows the user to make phone
calls and use Data at the best prices.
3. If possible, a cellular provider which charges by usage unit prices and
not by expiry dates.
4. A cellular provider which has a helpdesk number that actually 
effectively

leads to a human operator.

Any advice will be appreciated. You can write me off-list if this might 
hog
the list, although I believe the accessibility questions may prove useful 
to

others here.


Yamuna Jivana Dasa

From: Harish Kotian
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2023 11:31 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in ; Muralidharan Vishwanath
Subject: Re: [AI] Issues with UDID

Hi

It is necessary to start with a deadline.Sure enough, looking at the data 
it

will be extended. Glad to know you concur with UDID implementation.We have
seen with linking PAN with Adhar, the deadline was extended.




We too tend to lax without a deadline.



May I clear the myth which tends to be propagated in some quarters that I 
am

arbitrary in intervening in a flamed and out of scope postings.It was
certainly spelt out without context presently.



In many occasion in the past there was a effort to have a single 
disability
card. However, the effort was halfhearted then. Hopefully, linked with 
Adhar

it really happens.

We too need to keep the pressure that it happens.



Harish



On 19/03/2023 10:47, Muralidharan Vishwanath wrote:

  For your information, it is the NPRD which advocated for a universally
valid ID for disabled right at its inception in 2010.
  It was also  at the NPRD's behest that the universal validity of the
disability certificate was incorporated into the RPD Act, 2016.

  Therefore, the allegation that we are attempting to"stalling" this 
effort

is baseless and malafide. (I am sure, I too will be kicked out of the list
now).

  But the DEPwD is setting a deadline of April 1, 2023 even while more 
than
half of the disabled population who possess disability certificates have 
not

been issued UDID cards. How can this be accepted?

  Secondly, the central government's own departments do not accept the 
UDID
- railways for instance insists that one should procure the card that it 
is

issuing. Every year several cases are highlighted of MBBS aspirants whose
UDID cards are rejected and a reverification of their disability done at
designated centres. This defeats the very purpose of the UDID.

  I am not going into the various issues with the procurement of UDID that
people face, that is a different matter.

  The NPRD's interest is to see that all disabled are able to get UDID in 
a
hassle free process. When the disability certificate is replaced by the 
UDID

and becomes valid for all purposes, it is natural that it will become
mandatory (like the certificate earlier) for availing any scheme.

  What we have asked for is the difficulties that people are facing in the
procurement of the UDID so that we can take it up with the government. Let
me make it loud and clear. We have not and do not intend to stall or 
oppose

the UDID.

  All the best sathiyo.


  On Sun, Mar 19, 2023 at 8:52 AM Harish Kotian 
wrote:

Hi

It is my personal opinion that UDID should be made mandatory for
availing all services for the disabled.It should be the only 
identification

means for authenticating 

Re: [AI] Re: Looking for Cellular provider with Accessible App and helpdesk

[Yamuna Jivana dasa (Yogan)]

Dear Anirudh Rao,
Thanks for your feedback. Still something doesn't make sense to me. If the 
packages are now based on unlimited calls, then why do these companies also 
offer 10, 20 and 100 Rupees Talktime topups, which when purchased, gives no 
actual talktime? They expect you to buy time packages separately, even when 
those packages come with their unlimited voice calls for the duration of the 
package. So what use then is these small packages and why are they sold? Is 
this not theft as the end-user cannot use those talktime packages sold based 
on units usage, and yet there's nothing else sensible to couple them with to 
get them working? And even if there are time-only packs, they are so 
expensive so that to use a 20 Rupee talktime you have to buy say 128 Rupees 
of time validity?
That's like saying to a poor person "If you can't afford dry bread, give me 
back the bread and go eat cream cake!"


Anyway thanks all for this feedback. Back in South Africa we still have 1 
provider that allows us to buy airtime and use it for calls, SMS and Data on 
a unit charge basis, which only expires when the money has run out, and so 
long as your sim card is in your phone you never lose the right to receive 
incoming calls. In India they not only take that away, but they embarras 
their customer by telling the other party who calls them that the customer 
cannot receive calls because they did not recharge their phone number! This 
is professional humiliation in action!


Yamuna Jivana Dasa
-Original Message- 
From: anirudh rao

Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 10:32 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Re: Looking for Cellular provider with Accessible App and 
helpdesk


hi Yamuna Jivana Dasa,
it is for the good that we have tarriffs based on days and not on the
usage units.
that is how the data and calls have become almost unlimitted.
you can take any operator of your choice and check your balance and
recharge through UPI apps like google pay which is very much
accessible.

On 3/22/23, 'Saravanan K' via AccessIndia
 wrote:

Dear Yamuna,
Now a days,  validity of recharge is based upon days but not on
balance amount in the mobile. You can contact 198 for your queries  /
complaints on your mobile operator.



On 3/22/23, Yamuna Jivana dasa (Yogan)  wrote:

Hi Folks,
I’m adding one more item to this list which I forgot in my previous
message.
I am looking for your personal experience on a combination of the
following
factors:
1. A cellular provider whose App is accessible to Talkback for Android,
or
which uses a good Web interface to view account balance and prepaid
history
that can be navigated from a PC Web Browser.
2. A cellular provider which offers simple pricing without funny bells
and
whistles but does what it is supposed to do: allows the user to make
phone
calls and use Data at the best prices.
3. If possible, a cellular provider which charges by usage unit prices
and
not by expiry dates.
4. A cellular provider which has a helpdesk number that actually
effectively
leads to a human operator.

Any advice will be appreciated. You can write me off-list if this might
hog
the list, although I believe the accessibility questions may prove useful
to
others here.


Yamuna Jivana Dasa

From: Harish Kotian
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2023 11:31 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in ; Muralidharan Vishwanath
Subject: Re: [AI] Issues with UDID

Hi

It is necessary to start with a deadline.Sure enough, looking at the data
it
will be extended. Glad to know you concur with UDID implementation.We
have
seen with linking PAN with Adhar, the deadline was extended.




We too tend to lax without a deadline.



May I clear the myth which tends to be propagated in some quarters that I
am
arbitrary in intervening in a flamed and out of scope postings.It was
certainly spelt out without context presently.



In many occasion in the past there was a effort to have a single
disability
card. However, the effort was halfhearted then. Hopefully, linked with
Adhar
it really happens.

We too need to keep the pressure that it happens.



Harish



On 19/03/2023 10:47, Muralidharan Vishwanath wrote:

  For your information, it is the NPRD which advocated for a universally
valid ID for disabled right at its inception in 2010.
  It was also  at the NPRD's behest that the universal validity of the
disability certificate was incorporated into the RPD Act, 2016.

  Therefore, the allegation that we are attempting to"stalling" this
effort
is baseless and malafide. (I am sure, I too will be kicked out of the
list
now).

  But the DEPwD is setting a deadline of April 1, 2023 even while more
than
half of the disabled population who possess disability certificates have
not
been issued UDID cards. How can this be accepted?

  Secondly, the central government's own departments do not accept the
UDID
- railways for instance insists that one should procure the card that it
is
issuing. Every year several cases are highlighted of MB

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We are pleased to inform that Union Bank of India, a committed bank 
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[AI] Different advance and basic computer classes for VI

[Ranchhod Soni]

Hello folks!
This is your favourite team V.I. Developers here.
We’re glad to announce the registration for our April 2023 batch of our
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