[AI] 2 Questions about using a fork
Hey Everyone, I generally encounter 2 key challenges while using a fork. 1. It's sometimes difficult to fork something as it constantly keeps shifting on the plate. For instance, if I have to eat a piece of cake, I have no choice but to use a portion of my left hand to hold the piece steady while I fork it with my right hand. 2. Sometimes, a huge piece gets forked by mistake. This is generally applicable while having snacks like kebabs, etc. So, should I cut the thing into smaller parts first? If yes, how should this be done? Regards, Mohit Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] query - purchase of a car- any consession forVisually Impaired customers?
*Mohit On 6/25/13, Mohit Shah Shah wrote: > Hi all, > > Forgive me for saying this, but the mere notion of asking for a > concession in the fuel rate sounds hilarious to me. > I earnestly believe that we should focus on improving our efficiency > rather than demanding concessions. > As blind people, we do require some degree of accommodation in order > to lead a productive and fulfilling life. > That being said, we should also know where to draw the line. > Our relentless search for such concessions reflects our intrinsic > belief in the societal attitude towards persons with disabilities as > objects of charity and sympathy. > I, therefore, think that it would be wiser to ask for scholarships, > etc to empower us instead of asking for concessions. Because, like I > said, this need for concessions merely showcases our weakness. > > These are just my personal views, and I do apologise if I have > inadvertently offended anyone. > > Best, > Rahul > > > > > > > > On 6/25/13, Raaj wrote: >> What about the fuel? >> >> -Original Message- >> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On >> Behalf >> Of Kotian, H P >> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 1:08 PM >> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in >> Subject: Re: [AI] query - purchase of a car- any consession forVisually >> Impaired customers? >> >> Hi >> I had enquired with Maharashtra RTO 2 years back and they told me that >> there >> is no exemption for us. >> Harish Kotian >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On >> Behalf >> Of Nikita Vaid >> Sent: 25 June 2013 11:17 >> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in; vib-in...@googlegroups.com >> Subject: [AI] query - purchase of a car- any consession for Visually >> Impaired customers? >> >> Dear members, >> >> I was planning to purchase a car- precisely Maruti wagon r, just wanted >> to know if there is any consession/ rebate/ benefit of any kind either >> on the cost of the car or any other incidental charges for the blind >> customers ? >> >> >> >> >> >> Your early reply will be helpful. >> >> >> >> Thanks and warm Regards, >> >> Nikita V. Raut, >> >> Senior Manager [HR] >> >> Bank of Baroda, >> >> >> Disclaimer: >> ** >> >> This email (including any attachments) is intended for the sole use of >> the intended recipient/s and may contain material that is CONFIDENTIAL >> AND >> PRIVATE COMPANY INFORMATION. Any review or reliance by others or copying >> or >> distribution or forwarding of any or all of the contents in this message >> is >> STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you are not the intended recipient, please >> contact >> the sender by email and delete all copies; your cooperation in this >> regard >> is appreciated. >> >> ** >> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility >> of >> mobile phones / Tabs on: >> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessind >> ia.org.in >> >> >> Search for old postings at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >> >> To unsubscribe send a message to >> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >> with the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> please >> visit the list home page at >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> >> >> Disclaimer: >> 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of >> the >> person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; >> >> 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the >> mails >> sent through this mailing list.. >> >> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility >> of >> mobile phones / Tabs on: >> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessind >> ia.org.in >> >> >> Search for old postings at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >> >> To unsubscribe send a message to >> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >> with the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change yo
Re: [AI] query - purchase of a car- any consession forVisually Impaired customers?
Hi all, Forgive me for saying this, but the mere notion of asking for a concession in the fuel rate sounds hilarious to me. I earnestly believe that we should focus on improving our efficiency rather than demanding concessions. As blind people, we do require some degree of accommodation in order to lead a productive and fulfilling life. That being said, we should also know where to draw the line. Our relentless search for such concessions reflects our intrinsic belief in the societal attitude towards persons with disabilities as objects of charity and sympathy. I, therefore, think that it would be wiser to ask for scholarships, etc to empower us instead of asking for concessions. Because, like I said, this need for concessions merely showcases our weakness. These are just my personal views, and I do apologise if I have inadvertently offended anyone. Best, Rahul On 6/25/13, Raaj wrote: > What about the fuel? > > -Original Message- > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf > Of Kotian, H P > Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 1:08 PM > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in > Subject: Re: [AI] query - purchase of a car- any consession forVisually > Impaired customers? > > Hi > I had enquired with Maharashtra RTO 2 years back and they told me that > there > is no exemption for us. > Harish Kotian > > > -Original Message- > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf > Of Nikita Vaid > Sent: 25 June 2013 11:17 > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in; vib-in...@googlegroups.com > Subject: [AI] query - purchase of a car- any consession for Visually > Impaired customers? > > Dear members, > > I was planning to purchase a car- precisely Maruti wagon r, just wanted > to know if there is any consession/ rebate/ benefit of any kind either > on the cost of the car or any other incidental charges for the blind > customers ? > > > > > > Your early reply will be helpful. > > > > Thanks and warm Regards, > > Nikita V. Raut, > > Senior Manager [HR] > > Bank of Baroda, > > > Disclaimer: ** > > This email (including any attachments) is intended for the sole use of > the intended recipient/s and may contain material that is CONFIDENTIAL AND > PRIVATE COMPANY INFORMATION. Any review or reliance by others or copying or > distribution or forwarding of any or all of the contents in this message is > STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact > the sender by email and delete all copies; your cooperation in this regard > is appreciated. > > ** > Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of > mobile phones / Tabs on: > http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessind > ia.org.in > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of > the > person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails > sent through this mailing list.. > > Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of > mobile phones / Tabs on: > http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessind > ia.org.in > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of > the > person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails > sent through this mailing list.. > > > Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of > mobile phones / Tabs on: > http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please > visit the list home page at > http://acce
Re: [AI] 2 questions about daily living skills
Ajay, So, are you able to judge the colour of your clothes on the basis of the texture? That's pretty amazing, man. Can you elaborate a bit on it? On 4/26/13, Ajay Minocha wrote: > Hello, > 1. do you put the food in plate yourself? > a: I have done that many a times. Generally I keep the plate/ boul > close to the serving boul to avoid any spilling. That has helped me a > lot. > 2. How do you match the pares? > a: my touch sence is exceptional according to my friends. But in > reality it is not like that. I have asked from my mom about the colour > of all my clothes once and made an understanding about their texture. > I don't need any sighted assistance in selecting my dresses. weather > they are night suits or formal clothes for interview. > regards > > On 4/26/13, Mohit Shah Shah wrote: >> Hello AccessIndia comrades, >> >> 2 quick questions. >> 1. To those who live with their family: Do you put food in your plate >> yourself or do you take someone's assistance? >> If you do it yourself, what method do you use for doing it? >> 2. This may be a dumb question, but how do you match your clothes? >> One method is to put a pair in 1 clip and to make many such pairs for >> a few days. But, then again, one needs sighted assistance to make the >> pairs, so that somewhat defeats the purpose. >> What sustainable solution would you suggest? >> >> Regards, >> MS >> >> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility >> of >> mobile phones / Tabs on: >> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> >> >> Search for old postings at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >> >> To unsubscribe send a message to >> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >> with the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> please >> visit the list home page at >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> >> > > > -- > Ajay Minocha > Mob : +91-7827188455 > E mail : ajayminoc...@gmail.com > ajayminocha2...@rediffmail.com > Skype: ajayminocha2 > > Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of > mobile phones / Tabs on: > http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
[AI] 2 questions about daily living skills
Hello AccessIndia comrades, 2 quick questions. 1. To those who live with their family: Do you put food in your plate yourself or do you take someone's assistance? If you do it yourself, what method do you use for doing it? 2. This may be a dumb question, but how do you match your clothes? One method is to put a pair in 1 clip and to make many such pairs for a few days. But, then again, one needs sighted assistance to make the pairs, so that somewhat defeats the purpose. What sustainable solution would you suggest? Regards, MS Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] When you sometimes feel isolated in the company of yoursighted friends
problems as if you will not do that then > they will never understand. well, these were completely my thoughts > and anyone might have different opinions. > > Regards > Siddhi > > On 1/26/13, Syed Imran wrote: >> Good question. When any food's being shared, a totally blind person may >> not >> know how much to take as he or she may not know the total quantity of the >> food available. In such situations, I probably think communication is our >> best bet. May be we could talk to our sighted friends about these things >> and >> make them clear of what's expected of them at that point of time. We can >> prepare them to tell us if there's more food, less food or just enough >> for >> the gathering. >> >> In one of the meetings few months ago, As soon as I sat at the table, I >> was >> told that I could have some cookies if I like, and somebody just pushed a >> plate full of them towards me. I thought they're all for me, but still I >> wanted to be sure. So I asked "Can I finish them all?" Interestingly, >> someone on my far left was bold to say that everyone were sharing the >> same >> plate of those cookies with me and I won't be finishing all of them >> myself. >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On >> Behalf >> Of Umesha Economics >> Sent: 26 January 2013 12:36 >> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in >> Subject: Re: [AI] When you sometimes feel isolated in the company of >> yoursighted friends >> >> why may not you know how to eat it? >> >> Umesha >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Mohit Shah Shah" >> To: >> Sent: Wednesday, 23 January, 2013 6:46 PM >> Subject: [AI] When you sometimes feel isolated in the company of >> yoursighted >> friends >> >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I know that we all have a lot of sighted friends and/or colleagues. >>> While it is always fun to hang out with friends, I sometimes face the >>> below mentioned problems. >>> >>> When your sighted friends get too busy amongst themselves i.e. when >>> they're looking at some photos or are looking at someone/something and >>> are laughing hysterically, don't you feel kind of isolated or lonely? >>> Furthermore, when they are sharing food, it is difficult for the >>> blind person to really get involved because you may not know what the >>> food item is, and, even if you find out through their conversation or >>> by asking, you may get self-conscious and may not know how to eat it >>> when it is offered to you. >>> Always saying that you're not hungry cannot be an excuse. They >>> will eventually find out the real reason. >>> A friend of mine sometimes says, "I will help you to eat this." and >>> he puts the food in a spoon and gives it to me. >>> He does this with the best of intentions, but it always makes me feel >>> awkward and kind of incompetent. >>> And before any of the blind police say that I should learn table >>> manners, let me tell you that I know how to use a fork, knife and >>> spoon. I only face a problem in the aforementioned situation. >>> Similarly, you can always get involved when they're simply talking >>> about something, but you really can't do much when you don't even know >>> what they're doing. >>> >>> Please let me know what you guys think about all this. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Mohit >>> >>> >>> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing >>> accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: >>> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_acc >>> essindia.org.in >>> >>> >>> Search for old postings at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >>> >>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>> >>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>> please visit the list home page at >>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org >>> .in >>> >> >> >> >> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility >> of >> mobile phones / Tabs on: >> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listi
Re: [AI] RP & hopelessness
Hi Ekinath bro, Sorry for my late reply -- I just saw this post after talking to you. You have always been a source of inspiration for me even though you may not know it. One can find many successful blind people, but it's very hard to find cheerful blind people. This may sound a bit absurd, but it is actually what I have learnt on the basis of my experiences. I have been partially blind for all the 18 years of my life so far and have very little vision. I always try to cherish the limited vision that I have even though it's not really of much use. Even today, there are uncountable occasions when I find it hard to truly accept the fact of my visual impairment. No words of wisdom can really help you much in those times. And one question which always remains in the mind of a blind person, no matter how successful he or she becomes, is "Would I have been able to do more than this if I had been sighted?" But the mantra that I always try to follow is this: "It is our choices that make us what we truly are, far more than our abilities". I am sure you will remain just as amazing and cheerful even if you lose your remaining sight. And that is what really matters. I'd prefer being a happy blind person instead of being a sulking and universally disliked sighted person. Cheers, Rahul P.S. On another note, I would strongly suggest everyone to see Randy Pausch's last lecture video on YouTube. It is very inspiring and really helps you to put everything in life into perspective. On 8/21/12, vivekananda wrote: > I am suffering from Glucoma, i am having some sight whenever crossing > road I use white cane though I can see vehicles from quiet far, my > friends do not hasitate to use white cane. > > On 8/21/12, Zujar Shabbir Kanchwala wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> I too have experienced ssuch incidents where people doubt if I'm >> really challenged. And also, I'm not a very good user of the cane. >> Anyway what's importaant is that we accept the reality and never >> pretend to be normal sighted. I started using the cane when I was >> around 18 studying in class 12. I prefer to ask the driver about the >> bus # and its route, mostly I get a satisfactory answer from him and >> sometimes from the passengers inside. I travel by the normal >> first/second class coach in the railway trains coz I'm comfortable >> with it, not to hide my disability. One good thing is that I'm able to >> restrict loss of vision due to treatment since the age of 2 years, I'm >> 35 now. My ophthalmo has clarified that the medicines he prescribe are >> for retention and not for cure, I follow his instructions strictly and >> believe it has helped me. I understand not being able to see something >> that could be seen earlier is a painful experience but its really >> important for us to be prepared when we know that its ought to happen. >> Think of ways to overcome difficulties rather than cripping over >> something that's not under our control. Vision loss can happen with >> anyone, the difference for us is that we know about it in advance. >> Isn't this an advantage and an opportunity for us to prepare for the >> future? >> >> Dear friend, don't lose hope - keep your cool and you'd be able to >> think of the positive side of the situation. Wish you ALL THE BEST... >> >> On 8/20/12, Shona Man wrote: >>> The worldd for me too is a growing dark due to disappearing my center >>> vision. I was a person' who was a naughty' kiddy and having amaising >>> arrangement of my personal contacts, but everything has been lost on >>> the account of my diminishing vision. Many people consider me as a >>> sighted person as my eyes do not reflect any sense of blindness by >>> looking on them, but there is a dark inside these two little balls. I >>> have lost many of my relations because I do not often visit them and >>> most of the time confine my self at my resident pllace. But I think a >>> lot' if I had been a sighted person' could enjoy every moment of my >>> life, as by driving, by making every one pleased by my activities but >>> alas! nothing is with me which could me pleased when i have lost my >>> sight. >>> >>> >>> On 8/20/12, Geetha Shamanna wrote: Hi Ekinath, I fully understand your fear of losing the little vision you have, although it is practically of no use. Although I have been nearly blind since birth, the little vision I have had has kept me going. Just being able to see light makes me cheerful as well, especially on sunny days. Did you have your eyes examined for cataract? Doctors recently discovered cataract in both my eyes and operated them. I have been able to see a lot more light ever since. I do not wish to raise hopes -- cataract surgeries don't always result in an improvement in vision. But if you do undergo tests for cataract now or later and if doctors do determine cataract, do have it removed. It might help
Re: [AI] A question, which is not really a question
Ajay, While I'm sure you've given that suggestion with the best possible intentions, I fail to comprehend how that would solve the aforementioned problem. Many of my sighted friends also travel on their own 2/4 wheelers and some of them also have a driver. So, it's not like I'm using a driver because I'm visually impaired. I would most respectfully and warmly like to ask you to explain the reason for your hasty and seemingly not thought-out response. On 6/16/12, Ajay Minocha wrote: > Hi Mohit, > I will answer in just 1 line. Leave this concept of driver or so > called sighted escort. If you are in too much need Like going to any > unfamiliar place then try public transport. > regards > > On 6/16/12, Mohit Shah Shah wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> First of all, let me take this opportunity to wish you a very happy half >> year. >> Now, I'd like to ask a question which may not appear to be of much >> importance, but which makes a lot of difference to me at least. >> >> As I am sure many of you know, I go to college and to other public >> places with the help of my driver who acts as my sighted escort. >> While this method works perfectly, I've often encountered one flaw in >> the plan, so to speak. >> As soon as my class gets over, my escort comes and takes me to our car >> for going home. >> Similarly, when we go out somewhere, my driver comes to pick me up as >> soon as I come out with my friends from that place. >> So, because of this what happens is that my friends get to chat and >> have fun even after the class, while I miss all the fun because my >> escort picks me up immediately after the work that we went for is >> over. >> One possible solution could be to ask my friends to drop me to my car, >> but they also drop me immediately after we're done and continue >> talking away and making merry afterwards. >> So, how can I ask my friends to not drop me immediately to my car >> considering that I don't have a really concrete reason for hanging on >> in the first place? >> What should I ask my escort to do in these cases? >> >> This is often a source of a little bit of annoyance for me and leaves, >> you know, a sour taste, so to speak as I don't properly get to say >> goodbye to my friends after having had such a great time. >> Plus, it might even make them feel that I'm a nerd and don't wish to >> socialize. >> Please answer this question as earnestly and sincerely as you can >> because what might seem like a petty thing to you might mean a lot to >> someone else. >> >> I am yours most sincerely, >> Mohit, Gopalkrishna, Sarvapali, Mahindra, Vishwakumar, Sarmprasad, Shah >> :P >> >> >> Search for old postings at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >> >> To unsubscribe send a message to >> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >> with the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> please >> visit the list home page at >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> >> > > > -- > Ajay Minocha > Mob : +91-7827188455 > E mail : ajayminoc...@gmail.com > ajaymanu...@gmail.com > Skype : ajayminocha2 > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
[AI] You'll know it after you open the message, my dearest amigos
Hi all, I often face the following problems. I find it hard to determine if a person is talking to me or not unless they address me. Also, many a time, people absolutely say nothing when I say something to them. This often leaves me extremely confused as I then can't take the conversation forward. It might be that they respond visually and I obviously can't see that. Also, when I go to a shop, I often have no way of knowing who the shopkeeper is, so I have a hard time buying things. When I meet someone that I don't often meet, I find it difficult to remember their name by their voice. So, should I ask them who they are or would it kinda sound rude? When people just greet me, I often can't figure out what to say because 9 out of 10 times I can't know who they are by just listening to a simple greeting like 'hi' or 'hello'. So, what do you all do to deal with the aforementioned issues? Supposedly yours, Mohit Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Rosie Sultan: Helen Keller's Secret Love Life
Hi folks, "So, sometimes, I feel a sense of satisfaction when it is broken, at times violently and vehemently by cases of even rape committed by disabled on able bodied, though thankfully such cases occur only once in a blue moon, most of the times, disabled even rape other disabled only!!!" I absolutely love you. You are great. I love how you convey your points so bluntly and sometimes even humourously. I laughed for a good 15 minutes after reading that. Getting back to the topic, first of all, I must congratulate the author of that book for deducing that Helen preferred men over women. I sometimes wonder how such intelligent geniuses are born on this earth who manage to draw such informative conclusions. Some of you might remember that I had recently posted a question about my peers addressing me as 'aap'. Many people often feel that differently-abled people are, in fact, so differently-abled. that they are totally differently-abled. Nobody expects us to have girlfriends/boyfriends, best friends, etc. They perceive us as people with either magical abilities or no abilities at all. I think that we first need to create institutions for curing their blindness before creating institutions for curing our blindness. Cheers, Mohit On 5/9/12, Mujtaba Merchant wrote: > Vamsi you had to explain that you had feelings and desires? What do your > peers think, that you are a stone or some kind of machine? I now am scared > of what kind of society we live in! > > Reminds me of that day when some moron on the road saw me at the paan shop > lighting up a cigrette and commenting on this act of mine without a thought > and me replying back curtly "terray baap ki jaala kay nahi pee raha hoon" > (I ain't burning your fathers and smoking it). He was not expecting that > kind of response, neither was I, it just came out! Yup, you better tell > your > friends that we get angry and upset too LOL. > > -Original Message- > From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in > [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Vamshi. G > Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 7:20 PM > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in > Subject: Re: [AI] Rosie Sultan: Helen Keller's Secret Love Life > > Very much true. I went to a movie which had something more than mere > emotional love, and many of my friends wondered even I had such > desires. I had to tell them openly that I'm like anyone else and had > every feeling like others. > > But coming to the current story, I'm not happy with someone writing > someone's imaginary love story on the basis of available information > without having access to actual facts. > He can write such a story taking the character of a blind woman, but > not on a real person. Just my thoughts. > > > > On 5/9/12, Asudani, Rajesh wrote: >> Yes, I did wonder about the issue for long time but could not find even a >> fraction of a word written about it anywhere. >> >> The most poignant words in the article, for that matter applicable to >> life >> of disabled in general are: >> >> "So Helen had desires, but couldn't fulfill them. >> >> But she tried anyway. >> " >> >> >> Perceived asexuality of the disabled is really a major challenge in >> social >> integration. >> So, sometimes, I feel a sense of satisfaction when it is broken, at times >> violently and vehemently by cases of even rape committed by disabled on > able >> bodied, though thankfully such cases occur only once in a blue moon, most > of >> the times, disabled even rape other disabled only!!! >> I know my statements are susceptible to misinterpretations by the >> uninitiated, but I am advancing them as instantiating the claim of >> sexuality of the disabled >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in >> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of avinash >> shahi >> Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 3:13 PM >> To: accessindia; jnuvision >> Subject: [AI] Rosie Sultan: Helen Keller's Secret Love Life >> >> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rosie-sultan/helen-keller_b_1477393.html >> Rosie Sultan.Author >> Posted: 05/04/2012 1:10 pm >> >> I've been fascinated by Helen Keller since I read my first slim >> paperback about her when I was a child, and I've read most everything >> about her since. I've seen the movie The Miracle Worker more times >> than I can count, and still feel the emotional wallop of the dining >> room scene: you remember the one -- a young Helen fights her new >> teacher Anne Sullivan tooth and nail in the Keller family dining room >> in Alabama, and amidst broken crockery and smashed plates Helen >> finally, finally succumbs to Anne's demands that she eat from a plate. >> >> And who can forget the scene at the water pump? A young, >> hardscrabble-looking Helen flails about, still unaware of language, >> until the stellar moment when Anne forces Helen's hand under the >> splashing water of the pump in the yard and then. Then, suddenly, a >> wave of light wa
Re: [AI] Applying toothpaste
Hi Payal, Thanks a million for your informative response. I will surely implement your suggestions. However, I would like to make a clarification here. When I say I brush thrice, I mean that I repeat the same procedure of applying toothpaste and brushing my teeth 3 times in one brush itself. So, when I brush in the morning, I repeat that procedure 3 times. I mostly do that because I don't know whether my teeth have become perfectly white after brushing or not. On 5/2/12, payal wrote: > Mohit, > > Relevant questions, these are. Nothing to be ashamed of and certainly > better > to ask than be caught with a situation you'd rather not have to face. This > was my first pertinent question when I put myself through rehab, and this > is > what I learned... > > To apply toothpaste clean and clear on the bristles, hold your toothbrush > between your thumb and forefinger by the bristles. This way you know the > length of the bristles and have a point of reference when you apply > toothpaste. Use the other hand to squeeze the toothpaste onto the bristles > which have the reference of your fingers holding it and no extra will go > beyond the length of them. Start squeezing the tube from the beginning of > the bristles to the end and let it go. Does this make sense? > > As for oral hygine, most dentists today give you the exact instructions to > brush, floss and use a mouthwash to ensure you have no food particles or > odour left. Twice is in any case the recommended number of times one should > brush your teeth, but if you feel like you're not sure of how your mouth > smells after a meal, go ahead and brush again. Go easy on the teeth, you > may > end up with no enamel and need a capping instead. Just being funny, but I > would suggest you see a dentist and ask the hyginenist there to help you > with the exact technique of brushing your teeth and any other care you may > need. A regular enough routine with that should help. > > Long drawn instructions, hopefully of some help there. > > Payal > > -Original Message----- > From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in > [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Mohit Shah > Shah > Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 4:54 PM > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in > Subject: [AI] Applying toothpaste > > Hi all, > > I am back with another question. > Many of you might think that I ask these questions just for fun, but > trust me, I ask them because this is the best place for me to get real > and honest answers. > And I firmly believe that every visually impaired person has had these > questions in his/her mind at some point, but most of us are too shy to > ask such things openly. > > So, my question is this: How can I ensure that while applying > toothpaste on my brush, no squiggles of paste unintentionally get > dropped and make the whole place messy? > Also, how can I make sure that I've brushed my teeth properly and > correctly? > I have a strange and insane habit of brushing my teeth thrice to > ensure that nothing remains behind and everything gets covered. > This often leads to immense wastage of toothpaste and leaves behind > even more squiggles of paste. > So, please guide me in this matter. > > You can mail me off-list if you don't wanna talk about this publicly. > > Controversially yours, > Mohit > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Feasibility of guide dogs in India
Hi all, As it turns out, I do have my own vehicle with a driver with the help of which I manage to get from one place to the other. So, in my case, I require assistance only in indoor environments. So, what problems do you all foresee with using a guide dog indoors? On 4/29/12, Mohit Shah Shah wrote: > Dear Geetha, > > Exactly. I couldn't have put it better myself. > You've very eloquently and accurately conveyed my point which was that > we should do what suits us and not what people want us to do. > > > > On 4/29/12, Arif husain wrote: >> >> ah-Original message- >> From: Kavitha >> Sent: 28/04/2012, 6:07 am >> To: geethas2...@gmail.com; accessindia@accessindia.org.in >> Subject: Re: [AI] Feasibility of guide dogs in India >> this is right >> >> I was also there in US for several years. I was amused by their >> accessibility and wanting everything here in our country as well. >> >> But after thinking of our selfish politicians, road structures, >> disability >> priorities, I've end up my dreams as this cannot be even imagined for my >> generation. >> >> for an example, As per US and in all other european countries, if a >> webpage >> >> is being complaint by a blind person as it is not accessible, they ban >> that >> >> site entirely, you know. >> >> Who cares here? Once I lodged a complaint to the cops against the share >> autos (putt putt) which is constantly occupying the bus stops and me like >> blind persons are facing difficulties in catching the required busses. >> For >> which the inspector said, you better hire a cab or something to reach >> your >> destiny. How logic isn't it? >> - Original Message - >> From: "Geetha Shamanna" >> To: >> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 12:04 AM >> Subject: Re: [AI] Feasibility of guide dogs in India >> >> >>> Hi Mohit, >>> >>> Whether people look at our white canes with awe and respect or not >>> should >>> not be the criterion when deciding to use a white cane. Those of us who >>> choose to use it do so because it helps us get from point A to point B. >>> Whether others find it attractive or not is immaterial. >>> >>> As for the feasibility of using guide dogs in India, this has been >>> discussed >>> on the list several times in the past. In addition to the condition of >>> Indian roads, the traffic and the general chaos on roads combined with >>> the >>> presence of stray dogs make it impossible for guide dogs to survive. >>> >>> Geetha >>> -Original Message- >>> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in >>> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Mohit Shah >>> Shah >>> Sent: 27 April 2012 17:09 >>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>> Subject: [AI] Feasibility of guide dogs in India >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I recently came back from the U.S. where I saw many great things. >>> One of the things that I saw was how visually impaired people do >>> everything >>> quite gracefully with a guide dog. >>> This really tempted me to think whether the use of guide dogs would be >>> possible and feasible in India. >>> Although it's true that India doesn't have the best of roads, it's also >>> true >>> that most indoor places like malls, airports, hotels, offices, etc have >>> the >>> same kind of structure all over the world. >>> The roads in India have improved largely over the last few years and >>> most >>> >>> of >>> them now are at par with most nations. >>> >>> So, with that being said, the only major issue, I believe, is that >>> people >>> feel that Indians, in general, hate and are scared of dogs, so the >>> experiment wouldn't work. >>> Now, my point is this: How many people have you seen who look at the >>> white >>> cane with awe and respect? >>> I, for one, haven't come across many such people. >>> >>> I believe that we can and must work towards promoting the use of guide >>> dogs >>> in India. >>> >>> I saw a blind man who was giving his guide dog instructions like, 'Find >>> the >>> stairs' or 'Find an empty chair' or 'Find this XYZ person' >>> and the dog was able to do those things perfectly. >>> Now, I don't think yo
Re: [AI] Feasibility of guide dogs in India
Dear Geetha, Exactly. I couldn't have put it better myself. You've very eloquently and accurately conveyed my point which was that we should do what suits us and not what people want us to do. On 4/29/12, Arif husain wrote: > > ah-Original message- > From: Kavitha > Sent: 28/04/2012, 6:07 am > To: geethas2...@gmail.com; accessindia@accessindia.org.in > Subject: Re: [AI] Feasibility of guide dogs in India > this is right > > I was also there in US for several years. I was amused by their > accessibility and wanting everything here in our country as well. > > But after thinking of our selfish politicians, road structures, disability > priorities, I've end up my dreams as this cannot be even imagined for my > generation. > > for an example, As per US and in all other european countries, if a webpage > > is being complaint by a blind person as it is not accessible, they ban that > > site entirely, you know. > > Who cares here? Once I lodged a complaint to the cops against the share > autos (putt putt) which is constantly occupying the bus stops and me like > blind persons are facing difficulties in catching the required busses. For > which the inspector said, you better hire a cab or something to reach your > destiny. How logic isn't it? > - Original Message - > From: "Geetha Shamanna" > To: > Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 12:04 AM > Subject: Re: [AI] Feasibility of guide dogs in India > > >> Hi Mohit, >> >> Whether people look at our white canes with awe and respect or not should >> not be the criterion when deciding to use a white cane. Those of us who >> choose to use it do so because it helps us get from point A to point B. >> Whether others find it attractive or not is immaterial. >> >> As for the feasibility of using guide dogs in India, this has been >> discussed >> on the list several times in the past. In addition to the condition of >> Indian roads, the traffic and the general chaos on roads combined with >> the >> presence of stray dogs make it impossible for guide dogs to survive. >> >> Geetha >> -Original Message- >> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in >> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Mohit Shah >> Shah >> Sent: 27 April 2012 17:09 >> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in >> Subject: [AI] Feasibility of guide dogs in India >> >> Hi all, >> >> I recently came back from the U.S. where I saw many great things. >> One of the things that I saw was how visually impaired people do >> everything >> quite gracefully with a guide dog. >> This really tempted me to think whether the use of guide dogs would be >> possible and feasible in India. >> Although it's true that India doesn't have the best of roads, it's also >> true >> that most indoor places like malls, airports, hotels, offices, etc have >> the >> same kind of structure all over the world. >> The roads in India have improved largely over the last few years and most >> >> of >> them now are at par with most nations. >> >> So, with that being said, the only major issue, I believe, is that people >> feel that Indians, in general, hate and are scared of dogs, so the >> experiment wouldn't work. >> Now, my point is this: How many people have you seen who look at the >> white >> cane with awe and respect? >> I, for one, haven't come across many such people. >> >> I believe that we can and must work towards promoting the use of guide >> dogs >> in India. >> >> I saw a blind man who was giving his guide dog instructions like, 'Find >> the >> stairs' or 'Find an empty chair' or 'Find this XYZ person' >> and the dog was able to do those things perfectly. >> Now, I don't think you can really do such things with a cane, even though >> >> I >> have full respect for those who use the cane -- me being one amongst >> them. >> >> So, what do you all think about this proposition? >> >> >> Search for old postings at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >> >> To unsubscribe send a message to >> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >> with the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> please >> visit the list home page at >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> >> >> >> >> Search for old postings at:
Re: [AI] Regarding electricity bill
On the contrary, you could even say that, if someone is totally blind, then he/she doesn't need to use the lights and all as much as sighted people, so the amount of consumption will be less. If someone is a computer engineer, then that person will use the computer more than, say, a lawyer, so does that engineer also deserve to get some amount of concession? It is said that, if you give a bread to a hungry person, then you feed him for one day, but if you teach him how to earn his bread, then you help him to feed himself forever. So, I believe that instead of providing such pointless concessions, the government should instead use such funds in training and developing the skills of blind people, in order to properly integrate them into the society. On 3/19/12, Umesha Economics wrote: > yes, here I can have a justification for electricity concession. it is the > fact that my monthly electricity bill is almost double the same of my > neighbor who is a sighted and who has same sized house, same number of > persons in the house, same position and work load etc. it is because, I run > my computer almost every time except the time of sleep and eating or other > works. it may be reading books, preparing for my class, making notes, > scanning books, writing an assignment, reading a news paper, etc. but for > him, he can do all these activities without computer and electricity. > > Umesha > > - Original Message - > From: > To: > Sent: Saturday, 17 March, 2012 1:52 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] Regarding electricity bill > > >> >> -Original message- >> From: zoher >> Sent: 17/03/2012, 12:58 pm >> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in >> Subject: Re: [AI] Regarding electricity bill >> dear friend, mr. zoher is correct with his subject. I could not >> understand the aim of mr. harish. i was simply want to know that is any >> Govt rule for VI person which gives any rebate in elec. Bill's amount. >> i belong to west U.P. >> dear harish, as i read the original post, i just found that the person >> trys >> to find the information regarding the concession for electricity bill and >> not begging for the concessions. so kindly review the remarks made in your >> reply. >> Then what is the justification for concession in Indian railways, >> telephone >> bills, income tax under 80u, reservation in jobs, corporate social >> responsibilities ect. >> >> We must understand the ground reality about the position of disabled >> person >> especially in India. This section of the society is still deprived of many >> facilities and equal opportunities. The other aspect is the effort a >> disabled person puts to earn anything like earning the marks in studies or >> earning the money, we have to put the super extra efforts to get at the >> equal level with main stream society. One more thing is the cost of living >> of disabled person is more than others, a sited person can just study by >> purchasing a text book and note book which will cost him about 4 to 500 >> rs. >> But for a blind person he requires a c d player, a computer, a scanner and >> the software's and other assistive items like braillers ECT. Which will >> cost >> not less than 2 lacks r.s. the govt. of India or the state govt. or local >> bodies has not provided us with social security measures, as provided in >> western countries. like for example we don't have life insurance or even I >> go for life insurance personally on my own expenditure then also I will be >> charged high premium. >> >> In this country if farmers can get free electricity then why we can't get >> discount. O! I forgot we are not the potential vote banks. I don't know it >> is our right to have any kind of discount but I certainly know it is >> government and society's duty to facilitate our life. >> >> Sorry, no intention of hurting anyone. I just wanted to bring attention of >> list members on this issue. >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Kotian, H P" >> To: ; >> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 3:53 PM >> Subject: Re: [AI] Regarding electricity bill >> >> >>> Dear friend >>> >>> What is the justification for the concession. >>> Interestingly the word handicap has come from hand in cap. >>> >>> Until and unless we get over this hand in cap attitude, why should the >>> society not treat us so? >>> >>> Harish Kotian. >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: ak.divyadris...@gmail.com [mailto:ak.divyadris...@gmail.com] >>> Sent: 16 March 2012 10:48 >>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>> Subject: [AI] Regarding electricity bill >>> >>> Hi friends, namaskar, could anybody tell about any relexation in >>> electricity bill for VI person? >>> >>> >>> >>> Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and >>> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are >>> addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use, >>> review, distribution, printing or copying of the information contained in >>> this e-mail message
Re: [AI] Being addressed as 'aap'
Dear friends, Let me assure you all that I do address them as 'tu' and, hence, I expect them to do the same. Frankly speaking, I have always found it hard to make female platonic friends. Now, everyone will say that this has nothing to do with my visual impairment, and I fully respect your views. But, you know, I feel that it does have a lot to do with my problem. With my guy friends, I can jokingly ask them not to address me in a certain manner, and the problem might end there. With girls, though, it becomes very difficult to do that. I am naturally shy and awkward when I meet new people, so that doesn't help. I am very open and talkative when I am with my friends or the people I know, but this is often not the case when I meet someone for the first time. So, I have to work hard to tell them that I am not even half as saintly as they perceive me to be. Rajesh Sir, your story was really so easy to relate to. I thank you for sharing it. Ekinath, Believe me, my friend, I am nowhere close to your sincere and religious friend whom you described. So, let me ask you all one related, but different, question. Have you ever felt that your visual impairment makes it hard for you to have a purely platonic friendship with a friend of the opposite gender? If yes, then what have you done to deal with this, um, problem? And thanks for all your suggestions. I will try to be more expressive and open from next time. On 3/6/12, Ekinath Khedekar wrote: > I wish I could get hold of my earlier mail signature. It said > something about admiration and so on… something like > “I rather be loved or hated than respected as it puts a burden on me to…” > > A short real story, > > I had a close friend who was extremely cultured as people say. You > know “aap” “aap” sought. > He would diligently call his class mates and even their parents to > wish them on their birthdays. He would never where denim clothes, > would do everything opposite that any youngster would like to do. > And everywhere he went he was perceived as a saintly respected guy. > And yah, he was probably never acting. > However, once the college got over and real test of friendship came, > he realised that his birthdays wishes became a routine for everyone. > Nobody perceived him as a real close friend but an ideal, and ideals > are always distant for common people. > > Now the climax, I said I had a friend because we are unfortunately no > more on talking terms. > He would find my 10 odd years old manners as uncultured and > mannerless. He told me to changed my attitude. I never expected him to > change for me. So I told him to off. > > Your presence should bring smile and cheers on people’s face yar. > Respect lene dene ke liye bahut log hain. > > SO I better be loved than respected. Present your self in a way that > others should feel awkward to address you as “aap.” > > Cheers > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 3/5/12, Mohit Shah Shah wrote: >> Hello folks, >> >> As usual, I have a really weird and unique question. >> I have often observed that all my classmates, and even some of my >> friends, address me as 'aap' instead of 'tu', which is how they >> address each other. >> I somehow feel that this has something to do with my visual impairment. >> Perhaps, my classmates find it hard to be as open with me as they are >> with others, so they try to talk to me in a respectful manner in order >> to ensure that I don't get offended in any way. >> And I've observed that this is more applicable in the case of my >> female classmates. >> So, what can I do to make them feel at ease and treat me in a normal >> manner? >> >> Best, >> Mohit >> >> >> Search for old postings at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >> >> To unsubscribe send a message to >> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >> with the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> please >> visit the list home page at >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> >> > > > -- > “The waves breaking on the surface draw all the attention, > but it is the current beneath the water that determines your direction.” > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] A really weird question
Hey Rahul, Even I think that that might be the best method. But does it always go in the right place if you do that? I do have some usable vision, so I can sometimes place the hole in the middle of the bowl. But is it necessary for you to ensure that it goes in that hole only, or does it get washed away even if it goes at any other place inside the bowl? Because, if it does get washed away even if it is in another place in the bowl except the hole, then sitting would indeed be the best option. On 2/5/12, rahul cherian wrote: > The easiest way might be to sit down and do it, so there is no "aiming" > required... > > On 5 February 2012 01:06, Mohit Shah Shah wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I have a really weird and personal question. >> I do realize that many of you might not be very comfortable answering >> it here, so feel free to mail me privately. >> >> So, my question is for all guys out there. >> How do you manage to urinate using an English toilet? >> Sighted people can see the location of their target in the bowl and >> can do it accordingly, but this, obviously, is not possible for blind >> people. >> So, how do you manage to do it? >> I really can't ask this question to anyone I know in real life, as it >> will be very awkward and embarrassing. >> So, I think that this is the best place. >> >> Please forgive me if my question offends anyone in any way. >> >> Best, >> Mohit >> >> >> Search for old postings at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >> >> To unsubscribe send a message to >> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >> with the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> please visit the list home page at >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> >> > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Group for any topic, for youngsters and for young thoughts
Hi, What a great post! I think I love you ! :P Count me in! That's a great idea! The name is awesome! Regards, The rule-breaker, Mohit On 1/8/12, ekinath ekinath wrote: > Friends, > > Mere se raha nahin gaya. > > Many youngsters on our list are prohibited from discussing about > things which are indeed relevant to them. > > With out bitching about much for constraints, i have formed a google > group, so youngsters, girls or boys, have free hand in what they > discuss. > > We believe other than great degrees, good careers, and great > reputation, there lives a young person in you. So sports, parties, > treking, outings, dating, relationships everything is fair here with a > littel discency. > > Therefore, do join > saddahaq > > If you have better names to suggest for discussion group, you are welcome. > Link will be sent tomorrow > > ~Cheers > > > > > > > > -- > “The waves breaking on the surface draw all the attention, > but it is the current beneath the water that determines your direction.” > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Some more questions about dating
Hello everyone, I was just going through all the other posts in the group. There is a very important discussion going on about whether a blind/VI person should marry a sighted person or not. So, my point is, if we can't even talk about dating for blind people freely, then how can we even think about marriage? In today's world, most marriages, whether arranged or love, do involve dating or the process of getting to know each other. So, if we can't even talk about that first stage, then how can we talk and write essays about the ultimate end which is marriage? On 1/3/12, YADAV, D. N wrote: > Hi Phen > > > > I assume you meant me to answer. & really a good question I liked most. > But I am not a regular reader of AI & most often miss the important things. > So do please mark a copy to me personally if I have to answer particularly. > > > > It’s my office signature in Hindi. JAWS would certainly read it if you give > it Hindi mode, i.e., Lekha, Sappy 5 whatever we call it. It’s always the > default signature & I often miss to use my English one. Pardon me the group > if this was not meant to me. Please go ahead. > > > > सादर, > > (दीनानाथ यादव) > निजी सचिव-I > परियोजना (टीऐण्डआई) > पाइपलाइन्स मुख्यालय > नोइडा > > > > > This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway, Refineries HQ, > New Delhi, India. The information contained in this electronic message and > any attachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the > addressee(s) and may contain proprietary, confidential or privileged > information. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not > disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender > immediately and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments. > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Some more questions about dating
Hi all, Steve, if you're right, then why do we have a thread about marrying a sighted person in this group? And, don't forget, that thread has more than 60 posts. There was also recently a thread about socializing which also had more than 50 posts. However, I'd like to request all the members to stick to the topic, which, unfortunately, they're not doing. Mr. Asudani, Your comment about all 3 of us going on a date was really hilarious. What I meant was, should I ask my driver to leave me to the place of our date, or should I go there with her? Similarly, should I ask my driver to take me back to my vehicle after the date, or should I ask her to drop me? On 1/3/12, Phen Varghese wrote: > It is not related to you sir. > I had given a reply to Mr. Chetan. > If it is like that then why did you give the reply like that to Chetan > earlier when he asked about google groups and yahoo groups? > This is a mailing group for all. > all can see the mail send to each other and the reply given to each other. > So mind it. > > > On 1/3/12, Asudani, Rajesh wrote: >> Keep in mind, whose message you are replying to. >> I had never asked about relative merits of groups... >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in >> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Phen Varghese >> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 11:42 AM >> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in >> Subject: Re: [AI] Some more questions about dating >> >> The best way is to make a google group. >> >> >> On 1/3/12, Asudani, Rajesh wrote: >>> Exercise temperance or else I am really a bad tempered person. >>> Don't adopt a patronizing discourse. >>> Keep to your limits. >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in >>> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Phen >>> Varghese >>> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 10:33 AM >>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>> Subject: Re: [AI] Some more questions about dating >>> >>> We'll see about that. >>> Let's see what the moderator says. >>> >>> >>> On 1/3/12, Asudani, Rajesh wrote: >>>> Dear Mr. Phen Varghese >>>> >>>> I hope moderator has not delegated his discretion about relevance of >>>> discussion in this group. >>>> So, don't use imperative sentences in your communications... >>>> >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in >>>> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Phen >>>> Varghese >>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 10:23 AM >>>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Some more questions about dating >>>> >>>> Here we expect discussions related to accessibility issues and new >>>> inventions of technological gadgets. >>>> If you want to discus something related to dating or marriage then >>>> creat a google group for that and start discussing. >>>> >>>> RGDS, >>>> >>>> Phen Varghese >>>> >>>> On 1/3/12, Asudani, Rajesh wrote: >>>>> With a sighted person? >>>>> No Mohit No. >>>>> Do you trio want to go on a date? >>>>> Absolutely a counterproductive idea.. >>>>> >>>>> Regarding assisting with mobility, sensitize her, and the best way to >>>>> sensitize is the actual interaction, which dating would offer. >>>>> >>>>> If even then your friend is reluctant to assist, forgo the idea of any >>>>> long >>>>> term relationship with her, as she is not relevantly taking >>>>> cognizance >>>>> of >>>>> your disability. >>>>> This is the precise idea behind dating, that we get to know each >>>>> other... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -Original Message- >>>>> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in >>>>> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Mohit Shah >>>>> Shah >>>>> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 6:20 PM >>>>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>>>> Subject: [AI] Some more questions about dating >>>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> A few days ago, I h
[AI] Some more questions about dating
Hi all, A few days ago, I had created a thread about dating. I really got some wonderful and informative replies. However, some posts by some members were off-topic, so the moderator decided to close the thread. Hence, I decided to create a new thread for asking my questions. I'd like to assure the moderator that all my questions are strictly related to blindness. And I'd also like to request you all to stick to the topic so that we can have a meaningful discussion. Now, let's get to the topic. After reading your replies, I have decided to ask her (my friend) out. However, I have a couple of questions. Do you believe that I should go on the date with the help of a sighted person? If I do, then she might feel that she's being scrutinised. And, if I don't, then she might feel embarrassed and awkward to help me to move around. So, what should I do? I'd like to ask one more question. What can I do to ensure that she doesn't feel awkward going out with me? People are anyway a bit reluctant when they initially start going out together, and I believe that the problem will be far more serious especially when one of the persons is visually impaired. So, I'd really like to hear what you guys have to say about this. All your suggestions, tips, and views would be really appreciated. Regards, Mohit Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] A complex problem
Dear Mr. Subbu, Can you give a few tips for being independent? My friend believes that the main problem is that his dad hasn't been able to come to terms with the fact that he's partially blind. His parents, therefore, are not very willing to allow him to use a white cane. On 12/14/11, Subramani L wrote: > The problem with your friend seems to be that he wants to be > assertive, but is finding it difficult since his parents play such a > crucial role in his life. On one hand, he feelllike telling them that > "listen, I may not have eyes, but I have spine, a strong wil and > determination to achieve the goals I set for myself" and on the other > hand he also wonders "my parents are good people. they fight, but they > care for me. So how can I ask them to let me do what I want without > offending them". > > If this definition of his problem is correct, then he must get to the > bottom of it right now. There's no point in saying I am independent > without demonstrating it to someone. It is disappointing to see a lot > of my VI friends finding it harder to independently move around, which > is the most important message for the care givers that they are indeed > capable of taking care of their lives. Personallly speaking, I am as > thoroughly disorganised as any muddle-headed guy you wold meet, but > when it comes to doing things on my own, I am stubbern and never > compromise. > > As your friend to get away from home whenever things heat up. It is > highly important for him to keep his cool and focus on what he is > doing and the atmosphere at home is not helpful. I am sure he has > friends who can ehlp him get off for a day or two when situation > warrents it. > > Without beiing offensive to his parents, he must discuss the issue > with them and demonstrate that he is not very happy with them being > over protective and intrusive. Of course, this is easier said than > done. I have had many a battle with my folks and the results are > always satisfying, though it could at times be a little painful. > > Good luck. > > Subbu > On 12/14/11, Mohit Shah Shah wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I have a very good friend who is partially blind. >> So, he is facing a very big problem. >> I asked him to ask about his problem in this group, but he doesn't >> want to insult himself or his family by doing that. >> He is 20 years old. >> He is currently pursuing his LLB degree in Pune. >> >> So, his maternal grandparents are very rich. >> They have a very big house which is worth crores of rupees. >> So, his dad says that the house should be divided equally between his >> mother and her brother after the deaths of his maternal grandparents. >> His dad says that his mother should get a part of the house so that >> she will then have the resources to help him (my friend) if he fails >> to do something substantial in his life. >> His dad also works very hard to collect more and more resources just >> to make sure that my friend doesn't have to face a lot of problems in >> his future. >> >> So, my friend is mostly upset because his parents keep arguing about >> this matter all the time. >> He says that his dad also uses abusive language while arguing with his >> mother. >> His dad tries to prevent him (my friend) and his mother from meeting >> his grandparents, because his dad feels that his grandparents don't >> care about his future. >> >> His maternal grandparents say that they can't divide that particular >> house because their son (my friend's maternal uncle) stays in that >> house. >> They are,however, willing to give another house to my mother which is >> not as expensive as the house that my dad wants. >> >> My friend says that both his grandparents and his father are really nice >> people. >> He says that his father is worried about his future because of his >> visual impairment. >> And his father believes that his mother should also help in building a >> better future for my friend. >> My friend is a very capable guy. >> He always comes first in exams. >> So, I'm sure that he will not require anybody's assistance for >> building his career. >> >> He is always upset because of the fights between his parents. >> He feels that he is the main reason for all their fights. >> He wants to show his father that he is not so worthless that he will >> require the assistance of his maternal grandparents. >> So, what can my friend do? >> >> My friend will be reading all your posts, so please do share your >> suggestions and views. >> >> Reg
Re: [AI] Dating
Rishi, It says that the file has been deleted. I'd really like to listen to the discussion. On 12/14/11, Rishi Kewalramani wrote: > Hi Mohit Bhaiya, > hmmm, Dating hah > The Saro talk of 24th Sep, 2009, had a matured discussion about > relationships, finding and meeting those special people, which could be > friendships or may be something more on a personal level, people seeking > intemacy from a visually challenged person's prospective. How do we pursue > relationships, what do we look for, how do we overcome our fears and some of > the stereotypes that we may have to deal with etc. > Perhaps, you can take some tips from this talk. > But don't forget that you are the very embodiment of happiness. You may > pursue a sensible relationship objectively, for your evolution, but don't > let your happiness depend on any external source lest you are disappointed > and regret it later, smile. > > You can download and listen to this open matured discussion at: > http://www.sendspace.com/file/0d5g63 > Take care and all the very best, > Cheers. > Most folks are as happy as they make up mind to be. > Abraham > > - Original Message - > From: "Mohit Shah Shah" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 4:17 PM > Subject: [AI] Dating > > >> Hi all, >> >> I really like a girl in my class. >> I'm also friends with her. >> I really want to ask her out. >> However, I am reluctant to do so,because I think that she might not >> agree to go with me on account of my visual impairment. >> Has anyone here faced a similar problem? >> >> Please share your tips and suggestions. >> >> Regards, >> Mohit >> >> >> Search for old postings at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >> >> To unsubscribe send a message to >> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >> with the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> please visit the list home page at >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> > > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] A complex problem
Mr. Asudani, Can you please explain this sentence: However, I believe she cannot press for partitioning a house until it is partitioned. On 12/14/11, Anirban Mukherjee wrote: > i believe the boy can obliquely express his anxiety to his parents as > suppressing it would compound his problems (mental and emotional). ask > him speak in such a way that the message is well delivered without > insulting his parents. i agree with all others that he should focus on > building his career. it will put to rest all sorts of negative > anxieties of his parents. > > wishing good luck for his bright future > > with warm regards, Anirban Mukherjee > > On 12/14/11, Asudani, Rajesh wrote: >> Well, a lady is surely equally entitled to a share in the property of her >> parents at par with a son. >> However, I believe she cannot press for partitioning a house until it is >> partitioned. >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in >> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Mohit Shah >> Shah >> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 4:09 PM >> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in >> Subject: [AI] A complex problem >> >> Hi all, >> >> I have a very good friend who is partially blind. >> So, he is facing a very big problem. >> I asked him to ask about his problem in this group, but he doesn't >> want to insult himself or his family by doing that. >> He is 20 years old. >> He is currently pursuing his LLB degree in Pune. >> >> So, his maternal grandparents are very rich. >> They have a very big house which is worth crores of rupees. >> So, his dad says that the house should be divided equally between his >> mother and her brother after the deaths of his maternal grandparents. >> His dad says that his mother should get a part of the house so that >> she will then have the resources to help him (my friend) if he fails >> to do something substantial in his life. >> His dad also works very hard to collect more and more resources just >> to make sure that my friend doesn't have to face a lot of problems in >> his future. >> >> So, my friend is mostly upset because his parents keep arguing about >> this matter all the time. >> He says that his dad also uses abusive language while arguing with his >> mother. >> His dad tries to prevent him (my friend) and his mother from meeting >> his grandparents, because his dad feels that his grandparents don't >> care about his future. >> >> His maternal grandparents say that they can't divide that particular >> house because their son (my friend's maternal uncle) stays in that >> house. >> They are,however, willing to give another house to my mother which is >> not as expensive as the house that my dad wants. >> >> My friend says that both his grandparents and his father are really nice >> people. >> He says that his father is worried about his future because of his >> visual impairment. >> And his father believes that his mother should also help in building a >> better future for my friend. >> My friend is a very capable guy. >> He always comes first in exams. >> So, I'm sure that he will not require anybody's assistance for >> building his career. >> >> He is always upset because of the fights between his parents. >> He feels that he is the main reason for all their fights. >> He wants to show his father that he is not so worthless that he will >> require the assistance of his maternal grandparents. >> So, what can my friend do? >> >> My friend will be reading all your posts, so please do share your >> suggestions and views. >> >> Regards, >> Mohit >> >> >> Search for old postings at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >> >> To unsubscribe send a message to >> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >> with the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> please >> visit the list home page at >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> >> >> Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and >> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are >> addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use, >> review, distribution, printing or copying of the information contained in >> this e-mail message and/or attachments to it are strictly prohibited. If
[AI] A complex problem
Hi all, I have a very good friend who is partially blind. So, he is facing a very big problem. I asked him to ask about his problem in this group, but he doesn't want to insult himself or his family by doing that. He is 20 years old. He is currently pursuing his LLB degree in Pune. So, his maternal grandparents are very rich. They have a very big house which is worth crores of rupees. So, his dad says that the house should be divided equally between his mother and her brother after the deaths of his maternal grandparents. His dad says that his mother should get a part of the house so that she will then have the resources to help him (my friend) if he fails to do something substantial in his life. His dad also works very hard to collect more and more resources just to make sure that my friend doesn't have to face a lot of problems in his future. So, my friend is mostly upset because his parents keep arguing about this matter all the time. He says that his dad also uses abusive language while arguing with his mother. His dad tries to prevent him (my friend) and his mother from meeting his grandparents, because his dad feels that his grandparents don't care about his future. His maternal grandparents say that they can't divide that particular house because their son (my friend's maternal uncle) stays in that house. They are,however, willing to give another house to my mother which is not as expensive as the house that my dad wants. My friend says that both his grandparents and his father are really nice people. He says that his father is worried about his future because of his visual impairment. And his father believes that his mother should also help in building a better future for my friend. My friend is a very capable guy. He always comes first in exams. So, I'm sure that he will not require anybody's assistance for building his career. He is always upset because of the fights between his parents. He feels that he is the main reason for all their fights. He wants to show his father that he is not so worthless that he will require the assistance of his maternal grandparents. So, what can my friend do? My friend will be reading all your posts, so please do share your suggestions and views. Regards, Mohit Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
