Re: [AI]

2024-05-07 Thread Prakash Kamat 
On Mon, 6 May, 2024, 12:36 pm ,  wrote:

> Given the scenario you have outlined, the plan of action suggested appears
> to be ok. Else the sighted person might have to make 3 trips. Not really
> possible. Any other thoughts?
>
>
>
> *From:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in  *On
> Behalf Of *Cauvery Krishna
> *Sent:* 06 May 2024 11:57
> *To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> *Subject:* [AI]
>
>
>
> Question of dignity? There were three visually impaired students and one
> sighted volunteer, the sighted volunteer grabbed the hand of one VI student
> and asked  the other two to keep their hands on each other shoulders, asked
> the other two to walk behind the first one, essentially, forming a train. I
> would like to know from you all is it a dignified way? If not, what would
> be a dignified way to assist three VIs by one sighted volunteer? Thank you.
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Re: [AI] Why do people say these things to the blind? And what can be done for the same?

2024-05-06 Thread Prakash Kamat 
Such reactions from people in society only show us we have miles to go as
regards disability awareness, rights-based disability awareness, awareness
about inclusion and consequently mindset change in a society which is still
under the grip of traditional thought process of viewing Disability as
Charity-based and more importantly as emanating from "Paap
-Punya".
Miles to go before we sleep.

On Tue, 7 May, 2024, 11:22 am Prakash Kamat, 
wrote:

> Sad reality out of an age-old-perception is, our society is built on
> traditional thought to see disability ONLY charity-based. Therefore Young,
> educated,highly qualified people with disability with disability and people
> who work in this sector should NOT get demoralised or upset by these
> incidents. They only show us how still there is lack of awareness about
> Rights-based disability,around us. So this is challenge for us. So take out
> 2-3 minutes and without getting angry,annoyed explain to these people that
> persons with disability like "me",like "my student" dont need charity,
> pity. They are first persons like you and me Sir. Only difference is they
> have a disability like vision deficiency. With education and
> qualifications  they are equally,some times more competent and qualified.
> Technology and education have empowered them.As per the Constitution of
> India which governs all of us, Sir these PswD have equal rights to FULLY
> participate in the day-today development process in the society ON PAR WITH
> OTHERS...And as per law if they cant get this participation anywhere in
> public spaces due to barriers, it is OUR DUTY Sir to work/raise voice as an
> inclusive society to remove these barriers so that their participation is
> Full and on par with others.
> So Sir, this young man in front of you does not need free ice cream from
> you, he wants a hand of empathy from you.
> So Sir, this young student in front of you does not need free tuition from
> you for you to achieve Punya, he and all other persons with disability want
> your hand of empathy सहसंवेदना...Spread this message around and change
> people's mindset towards disability...that will fetch Punya for you🙏
>
> On Tue, 7 May, 2024, 9:56 am Austin Pinto, 
> wrote:
>
>> only 1 thing can be done.
>> if some1 says something, you can ask them like for example
>> why will you get  punya by teaching me, you cant get  punya by teaching
>> some sighted person?
>> and so on.
>> On Tue, May 7, 2024 at 9:52 AM Cauvery Krishna <
>> cauverykrishna...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> These are some of the experiences had by one of my  students of which I
>>> don't have an answer. Could you please help me.
>>> 1. Di, I am a visually impaired  MBA student, pursuing MBA from an IIM.
>>> I was with a senior at the grocery store of our campus, i waited as the
>>> senior got ice cream for both of us. The shopkeeper said, "inko bolo kal
>>> aane k liye, kal meri taraf se mai inko kuch dunga. Ice cream ya juice kuch
>>> dunga meri taraf se." Which roughly translates to, "ask him to come
>>> tomorrow, I'll give him an ice cream or juice from my side." So the
>>> question is why would the shopkeeper have said the same? I am an MBA
>>> student, I was wearing clean clothes, I was holding a forty thousand rupees
>>> phone in one hand and a white stick in the other hand. I don't understand
>>> did he think I can't afford a Rs 50 ice cream? I am paying the equal amount
>>> of fees but upon my survey he never said anything like this to any of the
>>> sighted or non disabled students. Why was the ice cream ? For merely being
>>> blind?
>>> 2.  Di, one of my batchmates said, "how is the preparation for the exams
>>> going? Do one thing, come let me teach you, I'll get punya by teaching
>>> you." Why is it? Why can't people with blindness just exist? What is this
>>> attachment of punya if we help the blind we'll get punya? Are we humans or
>>> some divine entity. If you don't get punya by helping or teaching a sighted
>>> or a non disabled person then why punya from the blind?
>>> Please suggest how I can help my student, as clearly, she is in a lot of
>>> stress by these experiences.
>>> Regards.
>>> Cauvery She/her.
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Re: [AI] Why do people say these things to the blind? And what can be done for the same?

2024-05-06 Thread Prakash Kamat 
Sad reality out of an age-old-perception is, our society is built on
traditional thought to see disability ONLY charity-based. Therefore Young,
educated,highly qualified people with disability with disability and people
who work in this sector should NOT get demoralised or upset by these
incidents. They only show us how still there is lack of awareness about
Rights-based disability,around us. So this is challenge for us. So take out
2-3 minutes and without getting angry,annoyed explain to these people that
persons with disability like "me",like "my student" dont need charity,
pity. They are first persons like you and me Sir. Only difference is they
have a disability like vision deficiency. With education and
qualifications  they are equally,some times more competent and qualified.
Technology and education have empowered them.As per the Constitution of
India which governs all of us, Sir these PswD have equal rights to FULLY
participate in the day-today development process in the society ON PAR WITH
OTHERS...And as per law if they cant get this participation anywhere in
public spaces due to barriers, it is OUR DUTY Sir to work/raise voice as an
inclusive society to remove these barriers so that their participation is
Full and on par with others.
So Sir, this young man in front of you does not need free ice cream from
you, he wants a hand of empathy from you.
So Sir, this young student in front of you does not need free tuition from
you for you to achieve Punya, he and all other persons with disability want
your hand of empathy सहसंवेदना...Spread this message around and change
people's mindset towards disability...that will fetch Punya for you🙏

On Tue, 7 May, 2024, 9:56 am Austin Pinto, 
wrote:

> only 1 thing can be done.
> if some1 says something, you can ask them like for example
> why will you get  punya by teaching me, you cant get  punya by teaching
> some sighted person?
> and so on.
> On Tue, May 7, 2024 at 9:52 AM Cauvery Krishna <
> cauverykrishna...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> These are some of the experiences had by one of my  students of which I
>> don't have an answer. Could you please help me.
>> 1. Di, I am a visually impaired  MBA student, pursuing MBA from an IIM. I
>> was with a senior at the grocery store of our campus, i waited as the
>> senior got ice cream for both of us. The shopkeeper said, "inko bolo kal
>> aane k liye, kal meri taraf se mai inko kuch dunga. Ice cream ya juice kuch
>> dunga meri taraf se." Which roughly translates to, "ask him to come
>> tomorrow, I'll give him an ice cream or juice from my side." So the
>> question is why would the shopkeeper have said the same? I am an MBA
>> student, I was wearing clean clothes, I was holding a forty thousand rupees
>> phone in one hand and a white stick in the other hand. I don't understand
>> did he think I can't afford a Rs 50 ice cream? I am paying the equal amount
>> of fees but upon my survey he never said anything like this to any of the
>> sighted or non disabled students. Why was the ice cream ? For merely being
>> blind?
>> 2.  Di, one of my batchmates said, "how is the preparation for the exams
>> going? Do one thing, come let me teach you, I'll get punya by teaching
>> you." Why is it? Why can't people with blindness just exist? What is this
>> attachment of punya if we help the blind we'll get punya? Are we humans or
>> some divine entity. If you don't get punya by helping or teaching a sighted
>> or a non disabled person then why punya from the blind?
>> Please suggest how I can help my student, as clearly, she is in a lot of
>> stress by these experiences.
>> Regards.
>> Cauvery She/her.
>>
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Re: [AI] 4 days Additional CL for Central Government Employees

2024-04-21 Thread Prakash Kamat 
The government of Kerala provides 5 days of special casual leave in a
calendar year to its disabled employees.

Kerala Government Order (GO) MS No. 97/2019/SWD

http://www.swd.kerala.gov.in/images/pdf/notifications/2019/ms_97_2019_swd.pdf

Prakash W Kamat, Goa
9422443093

On Sun, 21 Apr, 2024, 11:36 am RAO KM,  wrote:

> Dear friends,
>
> You are all aware, the Central Government Employees with Disabilities get
> additional   4 days SPECIAL CASUAL LEAVE in a Calendar Year.
> When we approached our   Government of Telangana State requesting them to
> extend similar benefits to its Disabled employees, they asked us to provide
> any documentary proof in case any other State Government/s are also
> extending a similar 4 days additional Special Casual Leave to its employees.
>
> We therefore request you to please confirm if State Governments in your
> States are extending similar additional 4 days Special Casual Leaves to
> their employees with disabilities and if so please share the relevant
> Order.  This will help us take up with our State Government.
>
> Thanks and with regards,
>
> KM Rao
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Re: [AI] Should we offer money as a tip to airlines staff or not?

2024-03-17 Thread Prakash Kamat 
Another aspect is there. As rightly said above it is an individual choice.
But sometime some staff gets so accustomed to tips that they start making
demands. Some persons who cant afford have to face bad reactions, nasty
remarks,comments.
So this aspect that it is not mandatory ,customary to give tips needs to be
repeatedly stated somewhere for such staff to know it and not fall into a
habit to pressurise people to give tips.

On Sun, 17 Mar, 2024, 6:38 pm Khandu Bhandare, 
wrote:

>
>
>  Respected  Kaveri Madam,
>
> I hope this email finds you well. I wanted to share some thoughts
> regarding the practice of offering tips, especially in situations where
> individuals are on low wages.
>
> In my opinion, offering a tip is a personal choice, and I believe it's
> important to extend it to those who may be on low wages, such as ground
> staff and drivers. These individuals often go out of their way to assist
> us, and the tip they receive can make a significant difference for their
> families.
>
> Furthermore, I strongly believe that if someone genuinely helps us, it's
> only fair to express our appreciation through a tip. However, it's
> essential to be mindful of the context, especially when dealing with
> individuals who hold executive or senior positions. Offering a tip to such
> individuals might be perceived as inappropriate or offensive.
>
> Therefore, while I prefer to offer tips in situations where it's
> warranted, I also understand the importance of being respectful and
> considerate in our interactions. Instead of offering tips directly, I
> believe it's more appropriate to express our gratitude through words and
> greetings.
>
> Thank you for considering my perspective on this matter.
>
> Warm regards,
>
>
>
> On Mar 17, 2024, at 01:55, 'Mahendragalani' via AccessIndia <
> accessindia@accessindia.org.in> wrote:
>
> I am talking from my own experiences, not once but many times. I am
> flying since last 35 years.
>  Mahendra Galani, With warm regards. Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 16.03.2024, at 19:15, anirudh rao  wrote:
>
> 
> Let me tell this very frankly that I never offered anyone money as tip
> ever in my life.
> how do you come to this generalization that the lower level staff expect
> money?
> in the Indian context, the people who come to assist come with the
> attitude of offering help usually.
> it is demeaning if you hold your money before them without them asking.
> at least, that is how I think through my experience and understanding.
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Re: [AI] A new group taylored for the needs of Blind girls community

2024-03-08 Thread Prakash Kamat 
Best wishes.

Prakash Kamat
Member,Goa State Advisory Board on Disability  9422443093.

On Sat, 9 Mar, 2024, 8:14 am Aishwarya K.M, 
wrote:

> Hi,
> Hope this mail finds you well.
> This initiative sparked out of 2 postgraduate Blind Women from Bangalore.
> It’s a support group for any kind of help ranging from grooming,
> travelling, to pursuing higher studies and everything under the sun,
> specifically for Indian Blind women. It’s a regulated and monitored safe
> space. If you’re interested please join through the following link.
>
> https://chat.whatsapp.com/FfKFrSAJvS185tRlfpIwDf
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> Thank you.
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Re: [AI] Seperate unversity for the students with disabilities.

2024-01-17 Thread Prakash Kamat 
Yes many people don't like word Divyang.bcoz they call you Divyang but do
they treat you like persons having body and Soul of God? Only putting on
high pedestal is of no use.
Having said that, you have no choice on the word Divyang as The RPwD Act
,2016 has officially adopted word Divyang. Hindi Act and other Acts in some
Regional languages have adopted that word. So govt schemes, govt
departments use that word. So you have no option. If you say I dont like
that word govt will say dont apply for schemes.
And if you look from other way, instead of what they use 'handicapped",
etc. Divyang I feel is much better...

On Mon, 8 Jan, 2024, 8:23 pm Kanchan Pamnani, 
wrote:

> Hi Saurav,
>
> At the outset I must say I agree with you. I do not want to fight on this
> issue but I would like you to think.
>
> I must introduce myself. I am late Blind and a practising Solicitor. I did
> not learn Braille when I was young as I was low visioned.
>
> I learnt about the other side when I joined AccessIndia.
>
> So I would like you to think of the other side of the story.
>
> 1.   Many people feel that it is best for Blind children to study at
> Special schools-They have a point and although I do not agree fully I
> understand where they are coming from.  Inclusion and integration is not in
> isolation. There is much more needed for integration than only going to an
> inclusive school.
>
> 2.   I don’t like the word”Divyang” but many that I work with do like
> using it for themselves.
>
> 3.   I personally did not think Braille was important but I have
> changed my mind.
>
> 4.   Years ago many in this group fought when someone pointed out bad
> spellings but now the group has matured and most people spell correctly.
>
>
>
> Lots of thoughts are evolving.
>
> I know there is such a special University in Uttar Pradesh. Its been
> working for atleast 10 years. I wanted to know what the results were.
>
> When I posted this article from The Times of India I thought maybe the
> Government would have studied the UP experience but now I wonder because
> the Maharashtra government has not even put up a fight and thankfully
> dropped the idea.
>
> I would still like to know whats happening in UP.
>
> Kanchan Pamnani
>
> Advocate and solicitor
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:
> accessindia@accessindia.org.in] *On Behalf Of *Saurav Hegde
> *Sent:* 06 January 2024 21:23
> *To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> *Subject:* Re: [AI] Seperate unversity for the students with disabilities.
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I have been following this and the previous threads on this topic.
>
> I mustsay, the person who thought about this concept is a genius!How do
> people find time to come up with such ideas.
>
> First, we are fighting for inclusion and then people have such ideas.
>
> Please someone try to completely close such a topic and make authorities
> focus on inclusion.Escuse the sarcasm.
>
>
>
>
>
> best,
>
> Saurav
>
>
>
>
> Student at Brihan Maharashtra College of Commerce, Pune
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 5, 2024 at 7:42 PM Kanchan Pamnani 
> wrote:
>
> Does anyone know about the students of the Special University in UP? Now
> atleast 3 batches must have graduated-are they getting jobs ?
>
> Kanchan
>
> *From:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:
> accessindia@accessindia.org.in] *On Behalf Of *george.abrah...@gmail.com
> *Sent:* 05 January 2024 19:23
> *To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> *Subject:* RE: [AI] Seperate unversity for the students with disabilities.
>
>
>
> Good sense prevailed!
>
>
>
> *From:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in  *On
> Behalf Of *Shyam Sayanekar
> *Sent:* 05 January 2024 19:04
> *To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> *Subject:* RE: [AI] Seperate unversity for the students with disabilities.
>
>
>
> Hello, very good. Got happy to read this news of cancelation.
>
>
>
> *From:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in [
> mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in ] *On
> Behalf Of *Suhas Karnik
> *Sent:* 05 January 2024 04:33 PM
> *To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> *Subject:* [AI] Seperate unversity for the students with disabilities.
>
>
>
> Dear Friends,
>
> in the captioned subject there was news in the media that the government
> of Maharashtra has set up a fifteen members expert committee to assess the
> need of setting up a special unversityfor PWD students.
>
> I had a meeting with Shree Abhay Mahajan the Secretary ,Divyang Kalyan
> Vibhag, in this regard on 3rd January 2024. It was informed that the
> government has dropped the idea of such a university. Atlast the prudence
> privled.
>
>
>
> Thanks & Regard,
>
> Suhas Karnik
>
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[AI] Post from Prakash W. Kamat (@PrakashWKamatPK)

2024-01-06 Thread Prakash Kamat 
Prakash W. Kamat (@PrakashWKamatPK) posted at 3:15 pm on Sat, Jan 06, 2024:
Our take:The justified apprehension in the disability community was that an
exclusive University could damage the concept of inclusive education thus
causing exclusion of PswD from regular universities,who could start
directing students towards exclusive University:@FirstSutraFdn
(
https://x.com/PrakashWKamatPK/status/1743569484030587197?t=dAUkVETm4KcLkxwRnRJmOA&s=03
)

Prakash Kamat,
(National Director, First Sutra Foundation, D& IE) 9422443093.

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Re: [AI] International Purple Fest 2024 events details with venue, dates and timings

2024-01-06 Thread Prakash Kamat 
Excellent job dear Prashantbhai. This is so helpful. Real Purple
Ambassador..लगे रहो❤👍🙏

Prakash Kamat,
Member,Goa State Advisory Board on disability,9422443093

On Fri, 5 Jan, 2024, 5:15 pm Prashant Naik,  wrote:

> Dear List,
>
> Here is a lengthy mail with a large text listing with html headings style
> 1, 2 and 3 for better navigation. Please find below International Purple
> Fest 2024 events details with venue, dates and timings.   Please register
> and join the fest.  Two days to go.
> *International Purple Fest Event details*
>
> GOA - 2024
>
> Date: 8-13 Jan, 2024
>
> Venue: Kala Academy
>
> Government of Goa, state commission for persons with disabilities and
> DEPWD (Divyangjan), MSJE, Government of India.
>
>
> *Purple Think-tank*
>
>
> Health Insurance
>
> Date: 11 Jan, 2024
>
> Time: 9:30 am - 11 am
>
> Venue: Kala Academy
>
>
> Assistive Technology
>
> Date: 11 Jan, 2024
>
> Time: 11:45 am - 1 pm
>
> Venue: Kala Academy
>
>
> Disaggregated Data & Disability
>
> Date: 11 Jan, 2024
>
> Time: 10 am - 11:30 pm
>
> Venue: Kala Academy
>
>
> Political Inclusion of Persons with Disabilities
>
> Date: 11 Jan, 2024
>
> Time: 11:45 am - 1:15 pm
>
> Venue: Kala Academy
>
>
> Education & Employment
>
> Date: 12 Jan, 2024
>
> Time: 2:30 pm - 4:00 pm
>
> Venue: Kala Academy
>
>
> Promoting New Leadership
>
> Date: 12 Jan, 2024
>
> Time: 4:15 pm - 5:30 pm
>
> Venue: Kala Academy
>
>
> Social Inclusion
>
> Date: 13 Jan, 2024
>
> Time: 9:30 am - 10:30 am
>
> Venue: Kala Academy
>
>
> Reforming Advocacy
>
> Date: 13 Jan, 2024
>
> Time: 10:45 pm - 12:00 pm
>
> Venue: Kala Academy
>
>
> *Purple Experience Zone*
>
>
> Dialogue in The Dark
>
> Date: 8-13 Jan, 2024
>
> Time: 10 am - 5 pm
>
> Venue: Kala Academy
>
>
> Inclusive Carnival
>
> Date: 8-13 Jan, 2024
>
> Time: 10 am - 5 pm
>
> Venue: Kala Academy
>
>
> Antarchakshu
>
> Date: 8-13 Jan, 2024
>
> Time: 10 am - 5 pm
>
> Venue: Kala Academy
>
>
> Inclusive Classroom
>
> Date: 8-13 Jan, 2024
>
> Time: 10 am - 5 pm
>
> Venue: Kala Academy
>
>
> Human Library
>
> Date: 11-13 Jan, 2024
>
> Time: 10 am - 1 pm
>
> Venue: Kala Academy
>
>
> Mouseware Experience
>
> Date: 8-13 Jan, 2024
>
> Time: 10 am - 5 pm
>
> Venue: Kala Academy
>
>
> Towards Inclusion
>
> Date: 8-13 Jan, 2024
>
> Time: 10 am - 5 pm
>
> Venue: Kala Academy
>
>
> Sensory Heritage Hub
>
> Date: 8-13 Jan, 2024
>
> Time: 10 am - 5 pm
>
> Venue: Kala Academy
>
>
> Inclusive Education
>
> Date: 8-13 Jan, 2024
>
> Time: 10 am - 5 pm
>
> Venue: Kala Academy
>
>
> NCHAT-ICMR Pavilion
>
> Date: 10-13 Jan, 2024
>
> Time: 10 am - 5 pm
>
> Venue: Kala Academy
>
>
> Experience the Invisible
>
> Date: 8-13 Jan, 2024
>
> Time: 10 am - 5 pm
>
> Venue: Kala Academy
>
>
> *Purple Exhibition Zone*
>
>
> Assistive Advances Expo By GATAEC
>
> Date: 8-13 Jan, 2024
>
> Time: 10 am - 5 pm
>
> Venue: Kala Academy
>
>
> Purple Sarkar (DEPWD Pavilion)
>
> Date: 8-13 Jan, 2024
>
> Time: 10 am - 5 pm
>
> Venue: Kala Academy
>
>
> Inclusive Banking by Union Bank of India
>
> Date: 8-13 Jan, 2024
>
> Time: 10 am - 5 pm
>
> Venue: Kala Academy
>
>
> Divya Kala Mela by NDFC
>
> Date: 8-13 Jan, 2024
>
> Time: 10 am - 5 pm
>
> Venue: Kala Academy
>
>
> Ability in Disability By UN
>
> Date: 8-13 Jan, 2024
>
> Time: 10 am - 5 pm
>
> Venue: Kala Academy
>
>
> *Purple Convention*
>
>
> Convention for Sign Language Interpreters
>
> Date: 6-7 Jan, 2024
>
> Time: 9 am - 5 pm
>
> Venue: Directorate of Accounts, Porvorim
>
>
> Media Conference
>
> Date: 7 Jan, 2024
>
> Time: 9 am - 2 pm
>
> Venue: Kala Academy
>
>
> National Conclave on Deafblindness
>
> Date: 8th-10th Jan, 2024
>
> Time: 9 am - 5 pm
>
> Venue: Gasper Dias, Miramar
>
>
> Deaf Education Conference
>
> Date: 8th-9th Jan, 2024
>
> Time: 8th[10 am - 2 pm] 9th [10am-5pm]
>
> Venue: Purple Audi 2, Kala Academy
>
>
> Rise A Million-Cp Collective-Cerebral Palsy
>
> Date: 8 Jan, 2024
>
> Time: 10 am - 5 pm
>
> Venue: Sanjay School, Porvorim
>
>
> Championing Inclusivity: Sharing Experiences in Employing Persons with
> Disabilities
>
> Date: 8 Jan, 2024
>
> Time: 2.30 pm - 5.30 pm
>
> Venue:

Re: [AI] Union Bank of India conducted range of inclusive activities on the International Day of Persons with Disabilities 2023

2023-12-29 Thread Prakash Kamat 
Ur bank needs to make ATMs and branches accessible with ramps. For instance
your branch at Cortim in Panaji in Goa. This process needs to be taken up
seriously...

Prakash Kamat
Member, Goa State Advisory Board on Disability
9422443093

On Fri, 29 Dec, 2023, 2:20 pm Prerna Sobti,  wrote:

> Great going. Keep it up. Good luck to everyone in the team.
>
> Prerna Sobti
>
> On Dec 26, 2023, at 12:19 PM, Rahul Gambhir 
> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Dear List,
>
>
>
> Season’s greetings!
>
>
>
> We are delighted to provide you with a recap of the inclusive activities
> organized by Union Bank of India in celebration of the International Day of
> Persons with Disabilities (IDPD) 2023 throughout the December 2023 month.
> Bank is celebrating this month as a disability awareness month.
>
>
> Before delving into the details of these activities, I am excited to share
> a success story facilitated by our recently launched Disability Support
> Desk on the Bank's WhatsApp Banking.
>
>
>
> We were able to assist several customers in resolving service-level
> constraints through high-level intervention. By connecting with our Union
> Access team via this platform, customers' concerns were promptly addressed
> within 24 hours. This achievement reinforces bank’s commitment to enhancing
> accessibility and support for all our customers.
>
>
>
> Now, let's delve into the key activities conducted by the Union bank as
> part of IDPD 2023:
>
>
>
> 1.Union Gyan Kasauti: A special online quiz made available for
> all the 76000 staff members on disability, diversity, accessibility, and
> inclusion was hosted on December 2, 2023, engaging all staff members with
> cash prize. The primary goal was to raise awareness and imparting knowledge
> on the subject.
>
> 2.Special e-Learnathon: Currently underway is an e-learnathon
> campaign encouraging staff members to complete three enriching e-learning
> courses on disability and accessibility developed by team Union Access
> through the Bank's E-learning portal. This initiative is designed to
> enhance their knowledge in areas such as General Awareness on Disability,
> Inclusion, disability etiquettes, and an Introductory Course on Indian Sign
> Language. The skills acquired contribute significantly to the enhancement
> of their capabilities.
>
> 3.Virtual Training Session: On December 15, 2023, a 3-hour
> virtual training session was conducted for 450 visually impaired staff
> members focusing on using the Bank's intranet portal and related internal
> platforms with the JAWS screen reader. The session, led by subject matter
> experts who are visually impaired staff members and proficient users of
> assistive technology, was tailored to benefit our visually impaired staff
> members.
>
> 4.Disability Sensitization through 'Dialog in the Dark':
> Bank’s head office executives and staff visited a set up 'Dialog in the
> Dark' at Nariman Point, Mumbai. The simulation-based experience provided
> valuable insights into disability, diversity, and accessibility to them.
>
> 5.Social media posting : As an established strategy by the
> bank to celebrate important disability days, on the occasion of IDPD 2023
> an awareness post was published on the bank’s all the social media channels
> which has a reach of millions of followers.
>
>
>
> As an additional note, we are excited to extend an invitation to meet you
> at the International Purple Fest in Goa from January 8th to January 13th,
> 2024, at the Union Bank of India exhibition stall on Inclusive Banking.
>
>
>
> We look forward to engaging with you and showcasing Bank’s commitment to
> inclusivity on a larger platform.
>
>
>
> For any inquiries or to learn more about our initiatives, please feel free
> to reach out to our Union Access team atunionacc...@unionbankofindia.bank
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> With regards
> Rahul Gambhir
> Mobile: 989133
>
> Email: rahul.gambhi...@gmail.com
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [AI] facing an issue wile online registration process as an organization for Goa International purple fest,

2023-12-26 Thread Prakash Kamat 
Your issue posted to organisers of Purple Festival. They will respond.

Prakash Kamat
9422443093

On Wed, 27 Dec, 2023, 9:59 am faiyaz attar, 
wrote:

> Dear all Access Indians,,
> I am facing a strange issue wile registering as an organization for
> Goa International purple fest. After filling the details of
> Organization's basic information, there are arrangements for 10
> candidates to get registered within the particular organization's
> Dashboard itself on registration page. When I am entering and uploding
> the documents of the 1st candidate, there should "Save and
> nextbutton", but it seems to be missing. Also, after filling the 1st
> candidates details, it is asking "Submit button" directly. Even after
> clicking the submit button, it is showing an error "Error Problem with
> the submition". any help would be more valuable in this regard.
>
> --
> "Every problem is a part of the life, But, solving the problem is an
> art of the life"
>
> Thanks and regards,
> Faiyaz Attar.
>
> Technical Head Consultant,
>
> and, community representative for Organization's connect, (persons
> with disabilities).
>
> From Team Manobal Project,
>
> Deepstambh Foundation, Jalgaon, and, pune.
> Postal Address:
> Deepstambh Foundation, Manobal,
> Gat no.205/2, 206, Kusumba,
> Near Ahinsa Tirth Bafna Goshala,Ajantha Road,Kusumba
> Tal.Dist.- Jalgaon, 425003,
> Maharashtra.
>
> Google location - https://goo.gl/maps/KBrcSK4XhxcYmWs66
>
>
>
> Workphone/Whatsapp:+919657724559.
>
> (available between 8:00 morning-10:00 evening).
>
> Visit our Website at:
>
> www.deepstambhfoundation.org.
>
> Vidio clip about Manobal Project:
>
> https://youtu.be/2Y-r1TNEUpc
>
> Dare to dream:
> https://youtu.be/9Lz2wgmK7LY
>
> Email: deepstambh...@gmail.com
>
> YouTube Channel: Deepstambh Foundation
>
> Facebook:
>
> https://m.facebook.com/DeepManobal/?ref=bookmarks
>
> Instagram:
>
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>
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Re: [AI] Panel to study idea of univ for students with disabilities Mumbai

2023-12-25 Thread Prakash Kamat 
The committee is just constituted.
Expected first meeting in January, 2024.

Some good people are there like
Adv Muralidhar Kachare,
Commander Bijur ( he is also on the national education policy committee for
Divyang).



On Mon, 25 Dec, 2023, 12:54 pm Neha Trivedi,  wrote:

> Hi
>
> Any idea who is on this panel? Can we find a way to ensure they don't land
> up adopting some disastrous ideas.
>
> Let me know if you are on it or know anyone else on it with whom we can
> discuss this further
>
> I have lots of inputs from the ground based on Spandan's work in higher
> education
>
> Thanks
> Neha
>
> On Sat, 23 Dec, 2023, 11:27 am Kanchan Pamnani, 
> wrote:
>
>> Panel to study idea of univ for students with disabilities Mumbai : The
>> state government has set up a 15-member committee to study the possibility
>> of a separate university for persons with disabilities. While students with
>> disabilities are currently enrolled across state universities in a variety
>> of courses, the exercise will also be undertaken to see if there is a need
>> for a separate university, and if there is, then what will be the future
>> course of action. The state committee will consider all aspects of the
>> Rights of Persons with Disabilities Act, 2016, which promotes inclusive
>> education. It will study if a separate university will lead to an increased
>> sense of alienation among students. The committee, set up by the higher and
>> technical education department, is expected to submit its report in two
>> months’ time. In line with the National Education Policy, 2020, the state
>> is keen on taking appropriate measures towards facilitating higher
>> education to all persons with disabilities. The committee will see if this
>> university, if necessary, can be a standalone multidisciplinary teaching
>> and research-oriented university. It has also been asked to study the
>> feasibility of a centre or a department for students with disabilities in
>> traditional universities instead of a standalone university.
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Re: [AI] Panel to study idea of univ for students with disabilities Mumbai

2023-12-25 Thread Prakash Kamat 
Also there should be a time frame for report. Nothing seems to be there.

Will share names of panel

Prakash Kamat Goa 9422443093

On Mon, 25 Dec, 2023, 12:54 pm Neha Trivedi,  wrote:

> Hi
>
> Any idea who is on this panel? Can we find a way to ensure they don't land
> up adopting some disastrous ideas.
>
> Let me know if you are on it or know anyone else on it with whom we can
> discuss this further
>
> I have lots of inputs from the ground based on Spandan's work in higher
> education
>
> Thanks
> Neha
>
> On Sat, 23 Dec, 2023, 11:27 am Kanchan Pamnani, 
> wrote:
>
>> Panel to study idea of univ for students with disabilities Mumbai : The
>> state government has set up a 15-member committee to study the possibility
>> of a separate university for persons with disabilities. While students with
>> disabilities are currently enrolled across state universities in a variety
>> of courses, the exercise will also be undertaken to see if there is a need
>> for a separate university, and if there is, then what will be the future
>> course of action. The state committee will consider all aspects of the
>> Rights of Persons with Disabilities Act, 2016, which promotes inclusive
>> education. It will study if a separate university will lead to an increased
>> sense of alienation among students. The committee, set up by the higher and
>> technical education department, is expected to submit its report in two
>> months’ time. In line with the National Education Policy, 2020, the state
>> is keen on taking appropriate measures towards facilitating higher
>> education to all persons with disabilities. The committee will see if this
>> university, if necessary, can be a standalone multidisciplinary teaching
>> and research-oriented university. It has also been asked to study the
>> feasibility of a centre or a department for students with disabilities in
>> traditional universities instead of a standalone university.
>>
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Re: [AI] Panel to study idea of univ for students with disabilities Mumbai

2023-12-24 Thread Prakash Kamat 
Panel formed,great. But any mandate,deadline for report given? Or it will
remain a promise on paper...
Prakash W Kamat,
Member, Goa State Advisory Board on Disability
9422443093

On Sat, 23 Dec, 2023, 11:27 am Kanchan Pamnani, 
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> Panel to study idea of univ for students with disabilities Mumbai : The
> state government has set up a 15-member committee to study the possibility
> of a separate university for persons with disabilities. While students with
> disabilities are currently enrolled across state universities in a variety
> of courses, the exercise will also be undertaken to see if there is a need
> for a separate university, and if there is, then what will be the future
> course of action. The state committee will consider all aspects of the
> Rights of Persons with Disabilities Act, 2016, which promotes inclusive
> education. It will study if a separate university will lead to an increased
> sense of alienation among students. The committee, set up by the higher and
> technical education department, is expected to submit its report in two
> months’ time. In line with the National Education Policy, 2020, the state
> is keen on taking appropriate measures towards facilitating higher
> education to all persons with disabilities. The committee will see if this
> university, if necessary, can be a standalone multidisciplinary teaching
> and research-oriented university. It has also been asked to study the
> feasibility of a centre or a department for students with disabilities in
> traditional universities instead of a standalone university.
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Re: [AI] Should I pay a delivery charge for the Indane Gas LPG

2023-12-11 Thread Prakash Kamat 
How about paying online,to avoid this mischief of extra charges?...Is
online accessibility a problem for you Madam?

On Mon, 11 Dec, 2023, 9:58 pm Minar Singh,  wrote:

> Hello access Indians,
> is it necessary to pay extra charges when the lpg gas cylinder is
> delivered to my place?
> I have observed that whenever the agent drops the cylinder, He always
> ask for more money. He was asking for gifts also during festivals like
> diwali and durga pooja.
> i get invoice of 663 after booking. but agent ask me to pay rs 30 extra.
> the cylinder is on my name.
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Re: [AI] Mail by Sugamya Bharat team

2023-12-08 Thread Prakash Kamat 
Has Sugamya Bharat App become totally ICT Accesible?

On Fri, 8 Dec, 2023, 9:08 pm Ashutosh Singhal, 
wrote:

> When our complaint is sent to the concerned authority by PMU that time our
> complaints disappear from the app. As I said earlier that the app has many
> issues, we should report issues through Play Store, Sugamya Bharat App,
> Twitter/X app and many more platforms. Now, I have observed more issues in
> the app which I have already sent to Sugamya Bharat's mam and written in
> Play Store rating. I will send those issues through Sugamya Bharat App,
> EDistrict, PG GRAM, Twitter/X soon. Whenever any feedback any platform
> developers get from more users that time developers solve the issue faster.
>
> On Fri, 8 Dec 2023 at 17:19, Saurav Hegde  wrote:
>
>> Hello to the group, hope this message finds you well
>> I had registered a complaint on the Sugamya Bharat app against Whatsapp
>> that their stickers and GIFs are in accessible.
>> I have received the following Email and also, my complaint is not visible
>> in the app now.
>>
>> To,
>>
>> Appropriate Authority,
>>
>> Dear Sir/Madam,
>>
>> Subject: COMPLAINT: Sugamya Bharat Mobile Application – Non-availability
>> of Accessibility Features at whatsapp for Persons with Disabilities – reg.
>>
>> Hon’ble Prime Minister launched the Accessible India Campaign (AIC) or
>> Sugamya Bharat Abhiyan on 3 rd December 2015, for creating universal
>> accessibility for Persons with Disabilities (PwDs) for Built Environment,
>> Transport, and Information & Communication Technology (ICT) ecosystems. A
>> barrier free environment aims at facilitating equal participation by PwDs
>> in all activities and helps in promotion of an independent and dignified
>> way of life.
>>
>> 2. As per the Rights for Persons with Disabilities (RPwD) Act, 2016,
>> public buildings shall be made accessible in accordance with the
>> ‘Harmonised Guidelines and Space Standards for Barrier Free Built
>> Environment for Persons with Disability and Elderly Persons, 2016’ as
>> notified under RPwD Rules. For the government websites, the Guidelines for
>> Indian Government Websites and for the Road Transport System, the Code of
>> Practice for Bus Body Design and Approval have been notified under RPwD
>> Rules, 2017. Any contravention of the provisions of this Act, or of any
>> rule made there under shall be punishable as per Sections 89 to 95 of the
>> Act.
>>
>> 3. The Department has received a complaint through the mobile application
>> – ‘Sugamya Bharat’ Mobile Application, wherein a grievance has been
>> registered related to accessibility in a premise under your jurisdiction.
>> As such, this complaint is being forwarded to you being the Appropriate
>> Authority. As per Sections 45-46 of the RPwD Act, 2016, public
>> buildings/services are required to be made accessible as per the standards
>> in a time-bound manner. It is the responsibility of the owner/service
>> provider to make its premise accessible. This Department has been given the
>> mandate to reach out to the appropriate authorities for facilitating action
>> on the registered grievance due to which this email is being sent.
>>
>> 4. In this regard, it is requested to please acknowledge this
>> email/letter and take the appropriate action to make the premises
>> accessible. Non response of this email/letter will lead to automatic
>> escalation of the matter to higher authorities.
>>
>> 5. Appropriate Authorities are also required to update the progress of
>> the complaint on the portal as per the actions taken, so that the
>> complainants are kept informed of the actions being taken on their
>> complaints.
>>
>> Note: The responsibility of forwarding the complaint to the owner of the
>> premises/facility/service lies with the Appropriate Authority
>> itself.However, while forwarding the complaint to Appropriate Authority,
>> the PMU of the Sugamya Bharat APP will also try to find and forward the
>> complaint to the owner of the premises / facility / service by copying them
>> in the email.
>>
>> Complaint no: COM202311220004
>> Date of complaint registered: 22/11/2023
>> Complaint registered by: Saurav Hegde
>> Name of the facility: whatsapp
>> Address of the facility: NA
>> Description of the issue:NAthe gifs and stickers in whatsapp are
>> inaccessible with google talkback
>> Yours Sincerely,
>> Md.Marazuddin
>> Under Secretary
>> Accessible India Campaign
>> Department of Empowerment of Persons with Disabilities
>> Ministry of Social Justice and Empowerment
>> Please someone explain me  the situation.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Saurav Hegde
>> Student at Brihan Maharashtra College of Commerce, Pune
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Re: [AI] Which is the best bank with regard to accessibility

2023-12-08 Thread Prakash Kamat 
Union bank of India. Their Sparsh Credit card is also  ICT Accessible

On Fri, 8 Dec, 2023, 10:05 am Yasir Jan,  wrote:

> Dear friends I want to know which bank provide is the best services with
> regard to accessibility of visually impaired in app and net banking
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Re: [AI] Enquiry regarding subsidies for visually challenge in bank loans

2023-12-04 Thread Prakash Kamat 
Problem with NHFDC is it asks for 2 govt employed guarantors for loan.


On Mon, 4 Dec, 2023, 1:39 pm Sushmeetha Bubna, 
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> Whatever little I know one can avail Mudra Loan which has less interest
> rate and also try through PNB as they are NHFDC financing partner. NHFDC
> gives various types of loans with less interest rate.
>
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> *Subject:* [AI] Enquiry regarding subsidies for visually challenge in
> bank loans
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>
> Dear access Indians
>
>
>
> I hope this email finds you well. My name is Yusuf, and I am reaching out
> from Mumbai with a query about bank loans, specifically for visually
> impaired individuals.
>
>
>
> I have been exploring various applications and online resources in search
> of information regarding subsidies or special provisions for visually
> impaired individuals when it comes to interest rates on bank loans. Despite
> my efforts, I have only come across interest rates ranging from 10 to 15%
> on a loan amount of 1 lakh.
>
>
>
> I wanted to inquire if there are any banks or government schemes in India
> that offer a lower interest rate, specifically below 10 to 15%, for
> visually challenged individuals. Additionally, I am curious to know if any
> non-governmental organizations (NGOs) are actively assisting in
> facilitating the loan application process for people with visual
> impairments.
>
>
>
> Your insights or guidance on this matter would be highly appreciated, as I
> am keen to explore options that may provide more favorable terms for
> individuals facing visual challenges.
>
>
>
> Thank you for your time and consideration. I look forward to any
> information or assistance you can provide.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Yusuf
>
> Mumbai
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Re: [AI] Enquiry regarding subsidies for visually challenge in bank loans

2023-12-03 Thread Prakash Kamat 
Pl contact this officer in Mumbai,Union Bank of India. Prashant Naik
Mobile +919370419828

He will help with information.

Follow me on twitter @PrakashWKamatPK
And my organisation @FirstSutraFdn

On Mon, 4 Dec, 2023, 10:44 am tech talks tech talks, <
yusufbalapar...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear access Indians
>
> I hope this email finds you well. My name is Yusuf, and I am reaching out
> from Mumbai with a query about bank loans, specifically for visually
> impaired individuals.
>
> I have been exploring various applications and online resources in search
> of information regarding subsidies or special provisions for visually
> impaired individuals when it comes to interest rates on bank loans. Despite
> my efforts, I have only come across interest rates ranging from 10 to 15%
> on a loan amount of 1 lakh.
>
> I wanted to inquire if there are any banks or government schemes in India
> that offer a lower interest rate, specifically below 10 to 15%, for
> visually challenged individuals. Additionally, I am curious to know if any
> non-governmental organizations (NGOs) are actively assisting in
> facilitating the loan application process for people with visual
> impairments.
>
> Your insights or guidance on this matter would be highly appreciated, as I
> am keen to explore options that may provide more favorable terms for
> individuals facing visual challenges.
>
> Thank you for your time and consideration. I look forward to any
> information or assistance you can provide.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Yusuf
> Mumbai
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