Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: Hindi typing with phonetic key board

2015-12-06 Thread Him Prasad Gautam
Hi Naresh,
Did you install and practice my Hindi Varnamala? If used and have
encountered any issue,  let me know.
Thanks.


On 11/30/15, Him Prasad Gautam <drishtibac...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi VedPrakash,
> It seems that you have to revisit your windows account setting.
> There is no issue of installation.  The problem you are facing is
> purely your machine specific.
>
>
> On 11/30/15, Vedprakash <vedprakash.sha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I have also adjusted to it. But we can change keyboards by pressing
>> control
>> plus space if we have other keyboards like Saraswati Hindi Phonetic,
>> Godrage
>> etc.
>>
>> Exciting Offers to Grab  Vedprakash Sharma
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>> Behalf
>> Of sanjay
>> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 4:26 PM
>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
>> the disabled. <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>> Subject: Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: Hindi typing with phonetic key board
>>
>> I learnt Hindi typing with devanagari inscript.  I think, It is built-in
>> keyboard in windows.
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Him Prasad Gautam" <drishtibac...@gmail.com>
>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerningthe disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 7:21 AM
>> Subject: [Bulk] Re: [AI] Hindi typing with phonetic key board
>>
>>
>>> hi Naresh,
>>> First of all, let you be clear.
>>> A VI person should not use  the typing utility which has the following
>>> characteristics.
>>> 1. If it generates A single Hindi letter on pressing multiple  keys of
>>> the keyboard.  If by pressing c h a it generates च, there is a
>>> conflict. The screen reader does  not know what should it speak when
>>> you press the key of c and h because the letter च is only generated
>>> after completing the all three letters. At Final stage, when you press
>>> a, the letter च is generated. Before that, what it should speak when
>>> you press  the two keys c and h?
>>> And Finally when you press a, the screen reader says च which is
>>> confusing. Hence please, completely abandon the idea of roman based
>>> typing tools like ka = क, kha = खetc.
>>> 2. conversely, a VI person should also not use that typing tool which
>>> generates multiple Hindi letters on pressing a single key of the
>>> keyboard. In this case too, the conflict of speaking occurs.
>>> 3. The only suitable typing tool for VI person is that one in which
>>> one Hindi letter is generated on pressing a single key of the
>>> keyboard.
>>> Or,
>>> One key press, one Hindi letter generation. If so happened, there is
>>> no conflict with the key press event and its announcement.
>>> I have developed a Hindi typing tool in this principle.
>>> It is specially design for those person who has the following
>>> characteristics.
>>> 1. If The user is a VI person. using a screen reader.
>>> 2. If the user is already familiar with the English keyboard.
>>> 3. If the user frequently types dual texts in Hindi as well as English.
>>> I guess, you fall in this category and I suggest to use my phonetic
>>> based Hindi typing tool called Varnamala. Many VI person in India are
>>> using it.
>>> you can download it from:
>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/gsthdizy1qefepv/Setup_Hindi_Varnamala_333.ex
>>> e?dl=0
>>>
>>> you can use it in any version of windows and in any screen reader.
>>> since the installation language is in Hindi, while installing, you
>>> must active  your jaws in Hindi reading mode.
>>> after installation, go to c:\programFiles\Varnamala\Hindi folder.
>>> there you can find help file in MS word named HelpInEnglish.rtf.
>>> Read it, a list of the Hindi letter and the corresponding keys
>>> assigned for it is presented there.
>>> briefly speaking, it has;
>>> k for क, shift k for ख
>>> g for ग, shift g for घ
>>> c for च, shift C for छ
>>> j for  ज, shift j for झ
>>> n for न, shift n for ण
>>> t for त, shift t for थ
>>> p for प, shift p for फ
>>> b for ब, shift b for भ
>>> s for स, shift s for श
>>> etc. etc.  are assigned.
>>> Hope it helps you.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/29/15, Naresh Kumar <naresh.rhy.

Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: Hindi typing with phonetic key board

2015-11-30 Thread sanjay
I learnt Hindi typing with devanagari inscript.  I think, It is built-in 
keyboard in windows.


- Original Message - 
From: "Him Prasad Gautam" <drishtibac...@gmail.com>
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>

Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 7:21 AM
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [AI] Hindi typing with phonetic key board



hi Naresh,
First of all, let you be clear.
A VI person should not use  the typing utility which has the following
characteristics.
1. If it generates A single Hindi letter on pressing multiple  keys of
the keyboard.  If by pressing c h a it generates च, there is a
conflict. The screen reader does  not know what should it speak when
you press the key of c and h because the letter च is only generated
after completing the all three letters. At Final stage, when you press
a, the letter च is generated. Before that, what it should speak when
you press
 the two keys c and h?
And Finally when you press a, the screen reader says च which is
confusing. Hence please, completely abandon the idea of roman based
typing tools like ka = क, kha = खetc.
2. conversely, a VI person should also not use that typing tool which
generates multiple Hindi letters on pressing a single key of the
keyboard. In this case too, the conflict of speaking occurs.
3. The only suitable typing tool for VI person is that one in which
one Hindi letter is generated on pressing a single key of the
keyboard.
Or,
One key press, one Hindi letter generation. If so happened, there is
no conflict with the key press event and its announcement.
I have developed a Hindi typing tool in this principle.
It is specially design for those person who has the following 
characteristics.

1. If The user is a VI person. using a screen reader.
2. If the user is already familiar with the English keyboard.
3. If the user frequently types dual texts in Hindi as well as English.
I guess, you fall in this category and I suggest to use my phonetic
based Hindi typing tool called Varnamala. Many VI person in India are
using it.
you can download it from:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/gsthdizy1qefepv/Setup_Hindi_Varnamala_333.exe?dl=0

you can use it in any version of windows and in any screen reader.
since the installation language is in Hindi, while installing, you
must active  your jaws in Hindi reading mode.
after installation, go to c:\programFiles\Varnamala\Hindi folder.
there you can find help file in MS word named HelpInEnglish.rtf.
Read it, a list of the Hindi letter and the corresponding keys
assigned for it is presented there.
briefly speaking, it has;
k for क, shift k for ख
g for ग, shift g for घ
c for च, shift C for छ
j for  ज, shift j for झ
n for न, shift n for ण
t for त, shift t for थ
p for प, shift p for फ
b for ब, shift b for भ
s for स, shift s for श
etc. etc.  are assigned.
Hope it helps you.



On 11/29/15, Naresh Kumar <naresh.rhy...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Him,
I am a VI. Please tell me the easiest way of Hindi typing. Generally I
find it difficult to learn new technology but once learnt, I can
explore at my own. I I am using windows 7 with Jaws 14. I think that I
have explained what you wanted to know.
Best
Naresh

On 11/29/15, Him Prasad Gautam <drishtibac...@gmail.com> wrote:

hi,
Are you Visually impaired or sited?
If VI, then your wish of typing in roman and getting
 in Hindi does not suit your condition.  This approach leads you
always in problem. I will elaborate the possible encounter. Let you
clear your condition. I can help you in either condition.

On 11/29/15, Naresh Kumar <naresh.rhy...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear list,
I wish to learn Hindi typing with phonetic keyboard which means if I
type the spellings in Roman it gets typed  in Hindi. I would be really
grateful to one who can tell me step-by-step to start with. I am not
very good with technology but online guidance would definitely help.
Regards
Naresh

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Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: Hindi typing with phonetic key board

2015-11-30 Thread Vedprakash
I have also adjusted to it. But we can change keyboards by pressing control 
plus space if we have other keyboards like Saraswati Hindi Phonetic, Godrage 
etc.

Exciting Offers to Grab  Vedprakash Sharma


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
sanjay
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 4:26 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the 
disabled. <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Subject: Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: Hindi typing with phonetic key board

I learnt Hindi typing with devanagari inscript.  I think, It is built-in 
keyboard in windows.

- Original Message -
From: "Him Prasad Gautam" <drishtibac...@gmail.com>
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe 
disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 7:21 AM
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [AI] Hindi typing with phonetic key board


> hi Naresh,
> First of all, let you be clear.
> A VI person should not use  the typing utility which has the following 
> characteristics.
> 1. If it generates A single Hindi letter on pressing multiple  keys of 
> the keyboard.  If by pressing c h a it generates च, there is a 
> conflict. The screen reader does  not know what should it speak when 
> you press the key of c and h because the letter च is only generated 
> after completing the all three letters. At Final stage, when you press 
> a, the letter च is generated. Before that, what it should speak when 
> you press  the two keys c and h?
> And Finally when you press a, the screen reader says च which is 
> confusing. Hence please, completely abandon the idea of roman based 
> typing tools like ka = क, kha = खetc.
> 2. conversely, a VI person should also not use that typing tool which 
> generates multiple Hindi letters on pressing a single key of the 
> keyboard. In this case too, the conflict of speaking occurs.
> 3. The only suitable typing tool for VI person is that one in which 
> one Hindi letter is generated on pressing a single key of the 
> keyboard.
> Or,
> One key press, one Hindi letter generation. If so happened, there is 
> no conflict with the key press event and its announcement.
> I have developed a Hindi typing tool in this principle.
> It is specially design for those person who has the following 
> characteristics.
> 1. If The user is a VI person. using a screen reader.
> 2. If the user is already familiar with the English keyboard.
> 3. If the user frequently types dual texts in Hindi as well as English.
> I guess, you fall in this category and I suggest to use my phonetic 
> based Hindi typing tool called Varnamala. Many VI person in India are 
> using it.
> you can download it from:
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/gsthdizy1qefepv/Setup_Hindi_Varnamala_333.ex
> e?dl=0
>
> you can use it in any version of windows and in any screen reader.
> since the installation language is in Hindi, while installing, you 
> must active  your jaws in Hindi reading mode.
> after installation, go to c:\programFiles\Varnamala\Hindi folder.
> there you can find help file in MS word named HelpInEnglish.rtf.
> Read it, a list of the Hindi letter and the corresponding keys 
> assigned for it is presented there.
> briefly speaking, it has;
> k for क, shift k for ख
> g for ग, shift g for घ
> c for च, shift C for छ
> j for  ज, shift j for झ
> n for न, shift n for ण
> t for त, shift t for थ
> p for प, shift p for फ
> b for ब, shift b for भ
> s for स, shift s for श
> etc. etc.  are assigned.
> Hope it helps you.
>
>
>
> On 11/29/15, Naresh Kumar <naresh.rhy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Him,
>> I am a VI. Please tell me the easiest way of Hindi typing. Generally 
>> I find it difficult to learn new technology but once learnt, I can 
>> explore at my own. I I am using windows 7 with Jaws 14. I think that 
>> I have explained what you wanted to know.
>> Best
>> Naresh
>>
>> On 11/29/15, Him Prasad Gautam <drishtibac...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> hi,
>>> Are you Visually impaired or sited?
>>> If VI, then your wish of typing in roman and getting  in Hindi does 
>>> not suit your condition.  This approach leads you always in problem. 
>>> I will elaborate the possible encounter. Let you clear your 
>>> condition. I can help you in either condition.
>>>
>>> On 11/29/15, Naresh Kumar <naresh.rhy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Dear list,
>>>> I wish to learn Hindi typing with phonetic keyboard which means if 
>>>> I type the spellings in Roman it gets typed  in Hindi. I would be 
>>>> really grateful to one who can tell me step-by-step 

Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: Hindi typing with phonetic key board

2015-11-30 Thread Him Prasad Gautam
Hi VedPrakash,
It seems that you have to revisit your windows account setting.
There is no issue of installation.  The problem you are facing is
purely your machine specific.


On 11/30/15, Vedprakash <vedprakash.sha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have also adjusted to it. But we can change keyboards by pressing control
> plus space if we have other keyboards like Saraswati Hindi Phonetic, Godrage
> etc.
>
> Exciting Offers to Grab  Vedprakash Sharma
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of sanjay
> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 4:26 PM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
> the disabled. <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
> Subject: Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: Hindi typing with phonetic key board
>
> I learnt Hindi typing with devanagari inscript.  I think, It is built-in
> keyboard in windows.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Him Prasad Gautam" <drishtibac...@gmail.com>
> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
> concerningthe disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 7:21 AM
> Subject: [Bulk] Re: [AI] Hindi typing with phonetic key board
>
>
>> hi Naresh,
>> First of all, let you be clear.
>> A VI person should not use  the typing utility which has the following
>> characteristics.
>> 1. If it generates A single Hindi letter on pressing multiple  keys of
>> the keyboard.  If by pressing c h a it generates च, there is a
>> conflict. The screen reader does  not know what should it speak when
>> you press the key of c and h because the letter च is only generated
>> after completing the all three letters. At Final stage, when you press
>> a, the letter च is generated. Before that, what it should speak when
>> you press  the two keys c and h?
>> And Finally when you press a, the screen reader says च which is
>> confusing. Hence please, completely abandon the idea of roman based
>> typing tools like ka = क, kha = खetc.
>> 2. conversely, a VI person should also not use that typing tool which
>> generates multiple Hindi letters on pressing a single key of the
>> keyboard. In this case too, the conflict of speaking occurs.
>> 3. The only suitable typing tool for VI person is that one in which
>> one Hindi letter is generated on pressing a single key of the
>> keyboard.
>> Or,
>> One key press, one Hindi letter generation. If so happened, there is
>> no conflict with the key press event and its announcement.
>> I have developed a Hindi typing tool in this principle.
>> It is specially design for those person who has the following
>> characteristics.
>> 1. If The user is a VI person. using a screen reader.
>> 2. If the user is already familiar with the English keyboard.
>> 3. If the user frequently types dual texts in Hindi as well as English.
>> I guess, you fall in this category and I suggest to use my phonetic
>> based Hindi typing tool called Varnamala. Many VI person in India are
>> using it.
>> you can download it from:
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/gsthdizy1qefepv/Setup_Hindi_Varnamala_333.ex
>> e?dl=0
>>
>> you can use it in any version of windows and in any screen reader.
>> since the installation language is in Hindi, while installing, you
>> must active  your jaws in Hindi reading mode.
>> after installation, go to c:\programFiles\Varnamala\Hindi folder.
>> there you can find help file in MS word named HelpInEnglish.rtf.
>> Read it, a list of the Hindi letter and the corresponding keys
>> assigned for it is presented there.
>> briefly speaking, it has;
>> k for क, shift k for ख
>> g for ग, shift g for घ
>> c for च, shift C for छ
>> j for  ज, shift j for झ
>> n for न, shift n for ण
>> t for त, shift t for थ
>> p for प, shift p for फ
>> b for ब, shift b for भ
>> s for स, shift s for श
>> etc. etc.  are assigned.
>> Hope it helps you.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/29/15, Naresh Kumar <naresh.rhy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Him,
>>> I am a VI. Please tell me the easiest way of Hindi typing. Generally
>>> I find it difficult to learn new technology but once learnt, I can
>>> explore at my own. I I am using windows 7 with Jaws 14. I think that
>>> I have explained what you wanted to know.
>>> Best
>>> Naresh
>>>
>>> On 11/29/15, Him Prasad Gautam <drishtibac...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> hi,
>>>> Are you Visually impaired or sited?
>>>> If VI, then your wish of