Re: [AI] Feasibility of guide dogs in India
friend, here in india you should have own vehicle for carrying dog with you because dogs are not allowed in public transport. Vivek. On 4/27/12, Mohit Shah Shah mohit.shah...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I recently came back from the U.S. where I saw many great things. One of the things that I saw was how visually impaired people do everything quite gracefully with a guide dog. This really tempted me to think whether the use of guide dogs would be possible and feasible in India. Although it's true that India doesn't have the best of roads, it's also true that most indoor places like malls, airports, hotels, offices, etc have the same kind of structure all over the world. The roads in India have improved largely over the last few years and most of them now are at par with most nations. So, with that being said, the only major issue, I believe, is that people feel that Indians, in general, hate and are scared of dogs, so the experiment wouldn't work. Now, my point is this: How many people have you seen who look at the white cane with awe and respect? I, for one, haven't come across many such people. I believe that we can and must work towards promoting the use of guide dogs in India. I saw a blind man who was giving his guide dog instructions like, 'Find the stairs' or 'Find an empty chair' or 'Find this XYZ person' and the dog was able to do those things perfectly. Now, I don't think you can really do such things with a cane, even though I have full respect for those who use the cane -- me being one amongst them. So, what do you all think about this proposition? Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Feasibility of guide dogs in India
ah-Original message- From: Kavitha Sent: 28/04/2012, 6:07 am To: geethas2...@gmail.com; accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Feasibility of guide dogs in India this is right I was also there in US for several years. I was amused by their accessibility and wanting everything here in our country as well. But after thinking of our selfish politicians, road structures, disability priorities, I've end up my dreams as this cannot be even imagined for my generation. for an example, As per US and in all other european countries, if a webpage is being complaint by a blind person as it is not accessible, they ban that site entirely, you know. Who cares here? Once I lodged a complaint to the cops against the share autos (putt putt) which is constantly occupying the bus stops and me like blind persons are facing difficulties in catching the required busses. For which the inspector said, you better hire a cab or something to reach your destiny. How logic isn't it? - Original Message - From: Geetha Shamanna geethas2...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 12:04 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Feasibility of guide dogs in India Hi Mohit, Whether people look at our white canes with awe and respect or not should not be the criterion when deciding to use a white cane. Those of us who choose to use it do so because it helps us get from point A to point B. Whether others find it attractive or not is immaterial. As for the feasibility of using guide dogs in India, this has been discussed on the list several times in the past. In addition to the condition of Indian roads, the traffic and the general chaos on roads combined with the presence of stray dogs make it impossible for guide dogs to survive. Geetha -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Mohit Shah Shah Sent: 27 April 2012 17:09 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] Feasibility of guide dogs in India Hi all, I recently came back from the U.S. where I saw many great things. One of the things that I saw was how visually impaired people do everything quite gracefully with a guide dog. This really tempted me to think whether the use of guide dogs would be possible and feasible in India. Although it's true that India doesn't have the best of roads, it's also true that most indoor places like malls, airports, hotels, offices, etc have the same kind of structure all over the world. The roads in India have improved largely over the last few years and most of them now are at par with most nations. So, with that being said, the only major issue, I believe, is that people feel that Indians, in general, hate and are scared of dogs, so the experiment wouldn't work. Now, my point is this: How many people have you seen who look at the white cane with awe and respect? I, for one, haven't come across many such people. I believe that we can and must work towards promoting the use of guide dogs in India. I saw a blind man who was giving his guide dog instructions like, 'Find the stairs' or 'Find an empty chair' or 'Find this XYZ person' and the dog was able to do those things perfectly. Now, I don't think you can really do such things with a cane, even though I have full respect for those who use the cane -- me being one amongst them. So, what do you all think about this proposition? Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo
Re: [AI] Feasibility of guide dogs in India
Dear Geetha, Exactly. I couldn't have put it better myself. You've very eloquently and accurately conveyed my point which was that we should do what suits us and not what people want us to do. On 4/29/12, Arif husain arifhusain786...@gmail.com wrote: ah-Original message- From: Kavitha Sent: 28/04/2012, 6:07 am To: geethas2...@gmail.com; accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Feasibility of guide dogs in India this is right I was also there in US for several years. I was amused by their accessibility and wanting everything here in our country as well. But after thinking of our selfish politicians, road structures, disability priorities, I've end up my dreams as this cannot be even imagined for my generation. for an example, As per US and in all other european countries, if a webpage is being complaint by a blind person as it is not accessible, they ban that site entirely, you know. Who cares here? Once I lodged a complaint to the cops against the share autos (putt putt) which is constantly occupying the bus stops and me like blind persons are facing difficulties in catching the required busses. For which the inspector said, you better hire a cab or something to reach your destiny. How logic isn't it? - Original Message - From: Geetha Shamanna geethas2...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 12:04 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Feasibility of guide dogs in India Hi Mohit, Whether people look at our white canes with awe and respect or not should not be the criterion when deciding to use a white cane. Those of us who choose to use it do so because it helps us get from point A to point B. Whether others find it attractive or not is immaterial. As for the feasibility of using guide dogs in India, this has been discussed on the list several times in the past. In addition to the condition of Indian roads, the traffic and the general chaos on roads combined with the presence of stray dogs make it impossible for guide dogs to survive. Geetha -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Mohit Shah Shah Sent: 27 April 2012 17:09 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] Feasibility of guide dogs in India Hi all, I recently came back from the U.S. where I saw many great things. One of the things that I saw was how visually impaired people do everything quite gracefully with a guide dog. This really tempted me to think whether the use of guide dogs would be possible and feasible in India. Although it's true that India doesn't have the best of roads, it's also true that most indoor places like malls, airports, hotels, offices, etc have the same kind of structure all over the world. The roads in India have improved largely over the last few years and most of them now are at par with most nations. So, with that being said, the only major issue, I believe, is that people feel that Indians, in general, hate and are scared of dogs, so the experiment wouldn't work. Now, my point is this: How many people have you seen who look at the white cane with awe and respect? I, for one, haven't come across many such people. I believe that we can and must work towards promoting the use of guide dogs in India. I saw a blind man who was giving his guide dog instructions like, 'Find the stairs' or 'Find an empty chair' or 'Find this XYZ person' and the dog was able to do those things perfectly. Now, I don't think you can really do such things with a cane, even though I have full respect for those who use the cane -- me being one amongst them. So, what do you all think about this proposition? Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia
Re: [AI] Feasibility of guide dogs in India
Hi all, As it turns out, I do have my own vehicle with a driver with the help of which I manage to get from one place to the other. So, in my case, I require assistance only in indoor environments. So, what problems do you all foresee with using a guide dog indoors? On 4/29/12, Mohit Shah Shah mohit.shah...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Geetha, Exactly. I couldn't have put it better myself. You've very eloquently and accurately conveyed my point which was that we should do what suits us and not what people want us to do. On 4/29/12, Arif husain arifhusain786...@gmail.com wrote: ah-Original message- From: Kavitha Sent: 28/04/2012, 6:07 am To: geethas2...@gmail.com; accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Feasibility of guide dogs in India this is right I was also there in US for several years. I was amused by their accessibility and wanting everything here in our country as well. But after thinking of our selfish politicians, road structures, disability priorities, I've end up my dreams as this cannot be even imagined for my generation. for an example, As per US and in all other european countries, if a webpage is being complaint by a blind person as it is not accessible, they ban that site entirely, you know. Who cares here? Once I lodged a complaint to the cops against the share autos (putt putt) which is constantly occupying the bus stops and me like blind persons are facing difficulties in catching the required busses. For which the inspector said, you better hire a cab or something to reach your destiny. How logic isn't it? - Original Message - From: Geetha Shamanna geethas2...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 12:04 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Feasibility of guide dogs in India Hi Mohit, Whether people look at our white canes with awe and respect or not should not be the criterion when deciding to use a white cane. Those of us who choose to use it do so because it helps us get from point A to point B. Whether others find it attractive or not is immaterial. As for the feasibility of using guide dogs in India, this has been discussed on the list several times in the past. In addition to the condition of Indian roads, the traffic and the general chaos on roads combined with the presence of stray dogs make it impossible for guide dogs to survive. Geetha -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Mohit Shah Shah Sent: 27 April 2012 17:09 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] Feasibility of guide dogs in India Hi all, I recently came back from the U.S. where I saw many great things. One of the things that I saw was how visually impaired people do everything quite gracefully with a guide dog. This really tempted me to think whether the use of guide dogs would be possible and feasible in India. Although it's true that India doesn't have the best of roads, it's also true that most indoor places like malls, airports, hotels, offices, etc have the same kind of structure all over the world. The roads in India have improved largely over the last few years and most of them now are at par with most nations. So, with that being said, the only major issue, I believe, is that people feel that Indians, in general, hate and are scared of dogs, so the experiment wouldn't work. Now, my point is this: How many people have you seen who look at the white cane with awe and respect? I, for one, haven't come across many such people. I believe that we can and must work towards promoting the use of guide dogs in India. I saw a blind man who was giving his guide dog instructions like, 'Find the stairs' or 'Find an empty chair' or 'Find this XYZ person' and the dog was able to do those things perfectly. Now, I don't think you can really do such things with a cane, even though I have full respect for those who use the cane -- me being one amongst them. So, what do you all think about this proposition? Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe
Re: [AI] Feasibility of guide dogs in India
Yes. Great Achievement to be done. On 4/27/12, Mohit Shah Shah mohit.shah...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I recently came back from the U.S. where I saw many great things. One of the things that I saw was how visually impaired people do everything quite gracefully with a guide dog. This really tempted me to think whether the use of guide dogs would be possible and feasible in India. Although it's true that India doesn't have the best of roads, it's also true that most indoor places like malls, airports, hotels, offices, etc have the same kind of structure all over the world. The roads in India have improved largely over the last few years and most of them now are at par with most nations. So, with that being said, the only major issue, I believe, is that people feel that Indians, in general, hate and are scared of dogs, so the experiment wouldn't work. Now, my point is this: How many people have you seen who look at the white cane with awe and respect? I, for one, haven't come across many such people. I believe that we can and must work towards promoting the use of guide dogs in India. I saw a blind man who was giving his guide dog instructions like, 'Find the stairs' or 'Find an empty chair' or 'Find this XYZ person' and the dog was able to do those things perfectly. Now, I don't think you can really do such things with a cane, even though I have full respect for those who use the cane -- me being one amongst them. So, what do you all think about this proposition? Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Feasibility of guide dogs in India
Hi, Though i may not be able to comment on the subject i have two things to say. 1. Your language, presentation, thoughts are just awesome. 2. Technology has ability to acheive it. If not today some day for sure. Have faith and little hope. Regards, Kiran S Deshpande. Sent from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Mohit Shah Shah mohit.shah...@gmail.com Sender: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 21:38:43 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Reply-To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] Feasibility of guide dogs in India Hi all, I recently came back from the U.S. where I saw many great things. One of the things that I saw was how visually impaired people do everything quite gracefully with a guide dog. This really tempted me to think whether the use of guide dogs would be possible and feasible in India. Although it's true that India doesn't have the best of roads, it's also true that most indoor places like malls, airports, hotels, offices, etc have the same kind of structure all over the world. The roads in India have improved largely over the last few years and most of them now are at par with most nations. So, with that being said, the only major issue, I believe, is that people feel that Indians, in general, hate and are scared of dogs, so the experiment wouldn't work. Now, my point is this: How many people have you seen who look at the white cane with awe and respect? I, for one, haven't come across many such people. I believe that we can and must work towards promoting the use of guide dogs in India. I saw a blind man who was giving his guide dog instructions like, 'Find the stairs' or 'Find an empty chair' or 'Find this XYZ person' and the dog was able to do those things perfectly. Now, I don't think you can really do such things with a cane, even though I have full respect for those who use the cane -- me being one amongst them. So, what do you all think about this proposition? Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Feasibility of guide dogs in India
Hi Mohit, Whether people look at our white canes with awe and respect or not should not be the criterion when deciding to use a white cane. Those of us who choose to use it do so because it helps us get from point A to point B. Whether others find it attractive or not is immaterial. As for the feasibility of using guide dogs in India, this has been discussed on the list several times in the past. In addition to the condition of Indian roads, the traffic and the general chaos on roads combined with the presence of stray dogs make it impossible for guide dogs to survive. Geetha -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Mohit Shah Shah Sent: 27 April 2012 17:09 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] Feasibility of guide dogs in India Hi all, I recently came back from the U.S. where I saw many great things. One of the things that I saw was how visually impaired people do everything quite gracefully with a guide dog. This really tempted me to think whether the use of guide dogs would be possible and feasible in India. Although it's true that India doesn't have the best of roads, it's also true that most indoor places like malls, airports, hotels, offices, etc have the same kind of structure all over the world. The roads in India have improved largely over the last few years and most of them now are at par with most nations. So, with that being said, the only major issue, I believe, is that people feel that Indians, in general, hate and are scared of dogs, so the experiment wouldn't work. Now, my point is this: How many people have you seen who look at the white cane with awe and respect? I, for one, haven't come across many such people. I believe that we can and must work towards promoting the use of guide dogs in India. I saw a blind man who was giving his guide dog instructions like, 'Find the stairs' or 'Find an empty chair' or 'Find this XYZ person' and the dog was able to do those things perfectly. Now, I don't think you can really do such things with a cane, even though I have full respect for those who use the cane -- me being one amongst them. So, what do you all think about this proposition? Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
[AI] Feasibility of guide dogs in India
Hi Mohit, Whether people look at our white canes with awe and respect or not should not be the criterion when deciding to use a white cane. Those of us who choose to use it do so because it helps us get from point A to point B. Whether others find it attractive or not is immaterial. As for the feasibility of using guide dogs in India, this has been discussed on the list several times in the past. In addition to the condition of Indian roads, the traffic and the general chaos on roads combined with the presence of stray dogs make it impossible for guide dogs to survive. Geetha -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Mohit Shah Shah Sent: 27 April 2012 17:09 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] Feasibility of guide dogs in India Hi all, I recently came back from the U.S. where I saw many great things. One of the things that I saw was how visually impaired people do everything quite gracefully with a guide dog. This really tempted me to think whether the use of guide dogs would be possible and feasible in India. Although it's true that India doesn't have the best of roads, it's also true that most indoor places like malls, airports, hotels, offices, etc have the same kind of structure all over the world. The roads in India have improved largely over the last few years and most of them now are at par with most nations. So, with that being said, the only major issue, I believe, is that people feel that Indians, in general, hate and are scared of dogs, so the experiment wouldn't work. Now, my point is this: How many people have you seen who look at the white cane with awe and respect? I, for one, haven't come across many such people. I believe that we can and must work towards promoting the use of guide dogs in India. I saw a blind man who was giving his guide dog instructions like, 'Find the stairs' or 'Find an empty chair' or 'Find this XYZ person' and the dog was able to do those things perfectly. Now, I don't think you can really do such things with a cane, even though I have full respect for those who use the cane -- me being one amongst them. So, what do you all think about this proposition? Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Feasibility of guide dogs in India
You are very much right as far as the utility of a guide dog for a person with visual impairment is concerned. But, the problem in India is not that of bad roads or built in structure. The problem here is that of stray dogs and street dogs. This is the biggest problem. In US or for that metter any where in the world where dogs are used as their guide by blind persons, to the best of my knowledge, there is no stray dog roaming around in the streets and those who keep pet dogs they also keep them with in their house and whenever they take them out most of them keep them chained, although there are some senseless people who take their dogs out without chain. Under these circumstances Keeping guide dogs in India is not possible. If we want to promote the use of guide dogs for persons with visual impairment in this country, then, we must do the following: Persuade the Govt of India to enact law banning uncontrolled movement of dogs in the street. Secondly, setting up of training centers to train the dogs to work as guide dogs on the lines of Forfer Guide Dog Training Center in Scotland and also the visually impaired persons in using the dogs as their guide. This is the right time of making efforts to persuade the Government as the New law for all of us is under the process of enactment and suitable provisions can be made in the act for this purpose. Mittal -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Mohit Shah Shah Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 9:39 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] Feasibility of guide dogs in India Hi all, I recently came back from the U.S. where I saw many great things. One of the things that I saw was how visually impaired people do everything quite gracefully with a guide dog. This really tempted me to think whether the use of guide dogs would be possible and feasible in India. Although it's true that India doesn't have the best of roads, it's also true that most indoor places like malls, airports, hotels, offices, etc have the same kind of structure all over the world. The roads in India have improved largely over the last few years and most of them now are at par with most nations. So, with that being said, the only major issue, I believe, is that people feel that Indians, in general, hate and are scared of dogs, so the experiment wouldn't work. Now, my point is this: How many people have you seen who look at the white cane with awe and respect? I, for one, haven't come across many such people. I believe that we can and must work towards promoting the use of guide dogs in India. I saw a blind man who was giving his guide dog instructions like, 'Find the stairs' or 'Find an empty chair' or 'Find this XYZ person' and the dog was able to do those things perfectly. Now, I don't think you can really do such things with a cane, even though I have full respect for those who use the cane -- me being one amongst them. So, what do you all think about this proposition? Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Feasibility of guide dogs in India
I fully agree with you Mittal -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Geetha Shamanna Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 12:04 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Feasibility of guide dogs in India Hi Mohit, Whether people look at our white canes with awe and respect or not should not be the criterion when deciding to use a white cane. Those of us who choose to use it do so because it helps us get from point A to point B. Whether others find it attractive or not is immaterial. As for the feasibility of using guide dogs in India, this has been discussed on the list several times in the past. In addition to the condition of Indian roads, the traffic and the general chaos on roads combined with the presence of stray dogs make it impossible for guide dogs to survive. Geetha -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Mohit Shah Shah Sent: 27 April 2012 17:09 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] Feasibility of guide dogs in India Hi all, I recently came back from the U.S. where I saw many great things. One of the things that I saw was how visually impaired people do everything quite gracefully with a guide dog. This really tempted me to think whether the use of guide dogs would be possible and feasible in India. Although it's true that India doesn't have the best of roads, it's also true that most indoor places like malls, airports, hotels, offices, etc have the same kind of structure all over the world. The roads in India have improved largely over the last few years and most of them now are at par with most nations. So, with that being said, the only major issue, I believe, is that people feel that Indians, in general, hate and are scared of dogs, so the experiment wouldn't work. Now, my point is this: How many people have you seen who look at the white cane with awe and respect? I, for one, haven't come across many such people. I believe that we can and must work towards promoting the use of guide dogs in India. I saw a blind man who was giving his guide dog instructions like, 'Find the stairs' or 'Find an empty chair' or 'Find this XYZ person' and the dog was able to do those things perfectly. Now, I don't think you can really do such things with a cane, even though I have full respect for those who use the cane -- me being one amongst them. So, what do you all think about this proposition? Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Feasibility of guide dogs in India
Moreover, the cost of maintaining a guide dog is huge and may not be with in the reach of most of the blind persons in India. - Original Message - From: sr mittal srmit...@gmail.com To: geethas2...@gmail.com; accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 3:41 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Feasibility of guide dogs in India I fully agree with you Mittal -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Geetha Shamanna Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 12:04 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Feasibility of guide dogs in India Hi Mohit, Whether people look at our white canes with awe and respect or not should not be the criterion when deciding to use a white cane. Those of us who choose to use it do so because it helps us get from point A to point B. Whether others find it attractive or not is immaterial. As for the feasibility of using guide dogs in India, this has been discussed on the list several times in the past. In addition to the condition of Indian roads, the traffic and the general chaos on roads combined with the presence of stray dogs make it impossible for guide dogs to survive. Geetha -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Mohit Shah Shah Sent: 27 April 2012 17:09 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] Feasibility of guide dogs in India Hi all, I recently came back from the U.S. where I saw many great things. One of the things that I saw was how visually impaired people do everything quite gracefully with a guide dog. This really tempted me to think whether the use of guide dogs would be possible and feasible in India. Although it's true that India doesn't have the best of roads, it's also true that most indoor places like malls, airports, hotels, offices, etc have the same kind of structure all over the world. The roads in India have improved largely over the last few years and most of them now are at par with most nations. So, with that being said, the only major issue, I believe, is that people feel that Indians, in general, hate and are scared of dogs, so the experiment wouldn't work. Now, my point is this: How many people have you seen who look at the white cane with awe and respect? I, for one, haven't come across many such people. I believe that we can and must work towards promoting the use of guide dogs in India. I saw a blind man who was giving his guide dog instructions like, 'Find the stairs' or 'Find an empty chair' or 'Find this XYZ person' and the dog was able to do those things perfectly. Now, I don't think you can really do such things with a cane, even though I have full respect for those who use the cane -- me being one amongst them. So, what do you all think about this proposition? Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Feasibility of guide dogs in India
I was also there in US for several years. I was amused by their accessibility and wanting everything here in our country as well. But after thinking of our selfish politicians, road structures, disability priorities, I've end up my dreams as this cannot be even imagined for my generation. for an example, As per US and in all other european countries, if a webpage is being complaint by a blind person as it is not accessible, they ban that site entirely, you know. Who cares here? Once I lodged a complaint to the cops against the share autos (putt putt) which is constantly occupying the bus stops and me like blind persons are facing difficulties in catching the required busses. For which the inspector said, you better hire a cab or something to reach your destiny. How logic isn't it? - Original Message - From: Geetha Shamanna geethas2...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 12:04 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Feasibility of guide dogs in India Hi Mohit, Whether people look at our white canes with awe and respect or not should not be the criterion when deciding to use a white cane. Those of us who choose to use it do so because it helps us get from point A to point B. Whether others find it attractive or not is immaterial. As for the feasibility of using guide dogs in India, this has been discussed on the list several times in the past. In addition to the condition of Indian roads, the traffic and the general chaos on roads combined with the presence of stray dogs make it impossible for guide dogs to survive. Geetha -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Mohit Shah Shah Sent: 27 April 2012 17:09 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] Feasibility of guide dogs in India Hi all, I recently came back from the U.S. where I saw many great things. One of the things that I saw was how visually impaired people do everything quite gracefully with a guide dog. This really tempted me to think whether the use of guide dogs would be possible and feasible in India. Although it's true that India doesn't have the best of roads, it's also true that most indoor places like malls, airports, hotels, offices, etc have the same kind of structure all over the world. The roads in India have improved largely over the last few years and most of them now are at par with most nations. So, with that being said, the only major issue, I believe, is that people feel that Indians, in general, hate and are scared of dogs, so the experiment wouldn't work. Now, my point is this: How many people have you seen who look at the white cane with awe and respect? I, for one, haven't come across many such people. I believe that we can and must work towards promoting the use of guide dogs in India. I saw a blind man who was giving his guide dog instructions like, 'Find the stairs' or 'Find an empty chair' or 'Find this XYZ person' and the dog was able to do those things perfectly. Now, I don't think you can really do such things with a cane, even though I have full respect for those who use the cane -- me being one amongst them. So, what do you all think about this proposition? Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
