Re: [AI] Aadhaar card exclusions due to biometrics, please advise

2022-12-19 Thread Yamuna Jivana dasa (Yogan)
Hi Sagar,
Nice talking with you.
I added you to contacts from my number but strangely it shows you’re not on 
Whatsapp and offered to invite you to Whatsapp.
You can try to also add me – my Whatsapp is still my South African number:
+27822916081
Thanks.

Yamuna Jivana Dasa

From: Sagar Verma 
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2022 4:15 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
Subject: Re: [AI] Aadhaar card exclusions due to biometrics, please advise

Hi there, I also am a foreigner, I had no issues opting for Aadhar, 
I'm also totally blind, sometimes what happens is they won't give it to you 
because of the residency criteria, as a foreigner you will have to be a 
resident for 182 days, give me a call will discuss about this


With kind regards,
Sagar.
7696079483.
Above ive provided my Indian number


Sent from my iPhone



  On 19 Dec 2022, at 16:10, Yamuna Jivana dasa (Yogan)  
wrote:


   
  Dear Access India community,

  I am a new blind community member, having immigrated into India only a month 
ago from South Africa, my country of birth.
  I now live in Vrindavana Mathura. I am trying to purchase a home, but require 
Aadhaar card for this. The problem is that when I approached the Aadhaar 
application agent at HDFC bank, she said she is unable to do it because my eyes 
which are unusual will not be read at the biometrics process. She also insists 
that for her to apply an exclusion she needs special authorization from the 
Indian Government which is not normally available on the agent interface for 
processing applications. Is this not discrimination against disabilities that 
the agent cannot process us without seeking a non-standard interface not 
readily available to them?

  I struggle with Hindi and the agent cannot speak English well either so 
communication is such a challenge for me, and each time I have to tag a guide 
who speaks Hindi along, otherwise I cannot communicate. Each time I go she 
simply says sorry, cannot be done yet. It costs a lot of energy, money and time 
to get the help I need to navigate from my temporary living space to the bank 
each time just to ask, and always getting no indication how long this might 
take for this agent to get the permission she needs to process my non-standard 
exclusion for my Aadhaar card application.

  I tried calling the call-center number that a family member gave to me, 1947, 
but the IVR says that number does not exist. I also Googled and found:
  Guidance on applying as a blind applicant
  but nothing there was able to direct me to a high-level person to push this 
agent to do it at HDFC Bank.
  We also visited another outlet, IndusInd bank, where they are supposed to do 
the application, but the agent there also cannot help – in his case he just 
says the biometrics will not read and there is nothing further he can do – 
that’s it!

  Anyone might have some suggestion to move this quickly I will be very 
grateful. In the meantime I am held up in finding a fair home of my own to live 
in. I currently live in a run down place with no running sweet water for 
drinking or bathing, no hot water – you have to manually boil for bathing - and 
it is now a cold winter here.

  Thanks and kind regards,

  Yamuna Jivana Dasa
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Re: [AI] Aadhaar card exclusions due to biometrics, please advise

2022-12-19 Thread Yamuna Jivana dasa (Yogan)

Thanks for this tip. Will follow through.
Kind regards,

Yamuna Jivana Dasa
-Original Message- 
From: Sunil Sangtani.

Sent: Monday, December 19, 2022 4:42 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Aadhaar card exclusions due to biometrics, please advise

hi,
i remember that a few months back, i went for aadhar updation and my
eyes were not coming correctly, so he had an option to exclude it.
i suggest you to kindly visit the aadhar offices not the enrolement
center, they'll be able you to guide better.
the list of aadhar offices is available on there website, you can find
the address and go there.


On 12/19/22, Yamuna Jivana dasa (Yogan)  wrote:

Dear Access India community,

I am a new blind community member, having immigrated into India only a 
month

ago from South Africa, my country of birth.
I now live in Vrindavana Mathura. I am trying to purchase a home, but
require Aadhaar card for this. The problem is that when I approached the
Aadhaar application agent at HDFC bank, she said she is unable to do it
because my eyes which are unusual will not be read at the biometrics
process. She also insists that for her to apply an exclusion she needs
special authorization from the Indian Government which is not normally
available on the agent interface for processing applications. Is this not
discrimination against disabilities that the agent cannot process us 
without

seeking a non-standard interface not readily available to them?

I struggle with Hindi and the agent cannot speak English well either so
communication is such a challenge for me, and each time I have to tag a
guide who speaks Hindi along, otherwise I cannot communicate. Each time I 
go

she simply says sorry, cannot be done yet. It costs a lot of energy, money
and time to get the help I need to navigate from my temporary living space
to the bank each time just to ask, and always getting no indication how 
long
this might take for this agent to get the permission she needs to process 
my

non-standard exclusion for my Aadhaar card application.

I tried calling the call-center number that a family member gave to me,
1947, but the IVR says that number does not exist. I also Googled and
found:
Guidance on applying as a blind applicant
but nothing there was able to direct me to a high-level person to push 
this

agent to do it at HDFC Bank.
We also visited another outlet, IndusInd bank, where they are supposed to 
do
the application, but the agent there also cannot help – in his case he 
just

says the biometrics will not read and there is nothing further he can do –
that’s it!

Anyone might have some suggestion to move this quickly I will be very
grateful. In the meantime I am held up in finding a fair home of my own to
live in. I currently live in a run down place with no running sweet water
for drinking or bathing, no hot water – you have to manually boil for
bathing - and it is now a cold winter here.

Thanks and kind regards,

Yamuna Jivana Dasa

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Re: [AI] Aadhaar card exclusions due to biometrics, please advise

2022-12-19 Thread Sunil Sangtani.
hi,
i remember that a few months back, i went for aadhar updation and my
eyes were not coming correctly, so he had an option to exclude it.
i suggest you to kindly visit the aadhar offices not the enrolement
center, they'll be able you to guide better.
the list of aadhar offices is available on there website, you can find
the address and go there.


On 12/19/22, Yamuna Jivana dasa (Yogan)  wrote:
> Dear Access India community,
>
> I am a new blind community member, having immigrated into India only a month
> ago from South Africa, my country of birth.
> I now live in Vrindavana Mathura. I am trying to purchase a home, but
> require Aadhaar card for this. The problem is that when I approached the
> Aadhaar application agent at HDFC bank, she said she is unable to do it
> because my eyes which are unusual will not be read at the biometrics
> process. She also insists that for her to apply an exclusion she needs
> special authorization from the Indian Government which is not normally
> available on the agent interface for processing applications. Is this not
> discrimination against disabilities that the agent cannot process us without
> seeking a non-standard interface not readily available to them?
>
> I struggle with Hindi and the agent cannot speak English well either so
> communication is such a challenge for me, and each time I have to tag a
> guide who speaks Hindi along, otherwise I cannot communicate. Each time I go
> she simply says sorry, cannot be done yet. It costs a lot of energy, money
> and time to get the help I need to navigate from my temporary living space
> to the bank each time just to ask, and always getting no indication how long
> this might take for this agent to get the permission she needs to process my
> non-standard exclusion for my Aadhaar card application.
>
> I tried calling the call-center number that a family member gave to me,
> 1947, but the IVR says that number does not exist. I also Googled and
> found:
> Guidance on applying as a blind applicant
> but nothing there was able to direct me to a high-level person to push this
> agent to do it at HDFC Bank.
> We also visited another outlet, IndusInd bank, where they are supposed to do
> the application, but the agent there also cannot help – in his case he just
> says the biometrics will not read and there is nothing further he can do –
> that’s it!
>
> Anyone might have some suggestion to move this quickly I will be very
> grateful. In the meantime I am held up in finding a fair home of my own to
> live in. I currently live in a run down place with no running sweet water
> for drinking or bathing, no hot water – you have to manually boil for
> bathing - and it is now a cold winter here.
>
> Thanks and kind regards,
>
> Yamuna Jivana Dasa
>
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Re: [AI] Aadhaar card exclusions due to biometrics, please advise

2022-12-19 Thread Sagar Verma
Hi there, I also am a foreigner, I had no issues opting for Aadhar,
I'm also totally blind, sometimes what happens is they won't give it to you 
because of the residency criteria, as a foreigner you will have to be a 
resident for 182 days, give me a call will discuss about this

With kind regards,
Sagar.
7696079483.
Above ive provided my Indian number

Sent from my iPhone

> On 19 Dec 2022, at 16:10, Yamuna Jivana dasa (Yogan)  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Dear Access India community,
>  
> I am a new blind community member, having immigrated into India only a month 
> ago from South Africa, my country of birth.
> I now live in Vrindavana Mathura. I am trying to purchase a home, but require 
> Aadhaar card for this. The problem is that when I approached the Aadhaar 
> application agent at HDFC bank, she said she is unable to do it because my 
> eyes which are unusual will not be read at the biometrics process. She also 
> insists that for her to apply an exclusion she needs special authorization 
> from the Indian Government which is not normally available on the agent 
> interface for processing applications. Is this not discrimination against 
> disabilities that the agent cannot process us without seeking a non-standard 
> interface not readily available to them?
>  
> I struggle with Hindi and the agent cannot speak English well either so 
> communication is such a challenge for me, and each time I have to tag a guide 
> who speaks Hindi along, otherwise I cannot communicate. Each time I go she 
> simply says sorry, cannot be done yet. It costs a lot of energy, money and 
> time to get the help I need to navigate from my temporary living space to the 
> bank each time just to ask, and always getting no indication how long this 
> might take for this agent to get the permission she needs to process my 
> non-standard exclusion for my Aadhaar card application.
>  
> I tried calling the call-center number that a family member gave to me, 1947, 
> but the IVR says that number does not exist. I also Googled and found:
> Guidance on applying as a blind applicant
> but nothing there was able to direct me to a high-level person to push this 
> agent to do it at HDFC Bank.
> We also visited another outlet, IndusInd bank, where they are supposed to do 
> the application, but the agent there also cannot help – in his case he just 
> says the biometrics will not read and there is nothing further he can do – 
> that’s it!
>  
> Anyone might have some suggestion to move this quickly I will be very 
> grateful. In the meantime I am held up in finding a fair home of my own to 
> live in. I currently live in a run down place with no running sweet water for 
> drinking or bathing, no hot water – you have to manually boil for bathing - 
> and it is now a cold winter here.
>  
> Thanks and kind regards,
>  
> Yamuna Jivana Dasa
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[AI] Aadhaar card exclusions due to biometrics, please advise

2022-12-19 Thread Yamuna Jivana dasa (Yogan)
Dear Access India community,

I am a new blind community member, having immigrated into India only a month 
ago from South Africa, my country of birth.
I now live in Vrindavana Mathura. I am trying to purchase a home, but require 
Aadhaar card for this. The problem is that when I approached the Aadhaar 
application agent at HDFC bank, she said she is unable to do it because my eyes 
which are unusual will not be read at the biometrics process. She also insists 
that for her to apply an exclusion she needs special authorization from the 
Indian Government which is not normally available on the agent interface for 
processing applications. Is this not discrimination against disabilities that 
the agent cannot process us without seeking a non-standard interface not 
readily available to them?

I struggle with Hindi and the agent cannot speak English well either so 
communication is such a challenge for me, and each time I have to tag a guide 
who speaks Hindi along, otherwise I cannot communicate. Each time I go she 
simply says sorry, cannot be done yet. It costs a lot of energy, money and time 
to get the help I need to navigate from my temporary living space to the bank 
each time just to ask, and always getting no indication how long this might 
take for this agent to get the permission she needs to process my non-standard 
exclusion for my Aadhaar card application.

I tried calling the call-center number that a family member gave to me, 1947, 
but the IVR says that number does not exist. I also Googled and found:
Guidance on applying as a blind applicant
but nothing there was able to direct me to a high-level person to push this 
agent to do it at HDFC Bank.
We also visited another outlet, IndusInd bank, where they are supposed to do 
the application, but the agent there also cannot help – in his case he just 
says the biometrics will not read and there is nothing further he can do – 
that’s it!

Anyone might have some suggestion to move this quickly I will be very grateful. 
In the meantime I am held up in finding a fair home of my own to live in. I 
currently live in a run down place with no running sweet water for drinking or 
bathing, no hot water – you have to manually boil for bathing - and it is now a 
cold winter here.

Thanks and kind regards,

Yamuna Jivana Dasa

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