Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister
hai friends, kindly send me fax number and email. id of railway minister for sending memmorandum of kerala federation of the blind an n.g.o working in kerala krishnan m. moothimoola.. - Original Message - From: Himanshu Sahu sahu.himanshu2...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 11:47 AM Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister Dear Friends, The e-mail ID of Railway Minister is pasted below: mamata.san...@sansad.nic.in Thanks On 2/15/10, Srikanth Bolla presidentsrika...@gmail.com wrote: Dear list members, I am sorry for the inconvenience. I am pasting the document in this email. Please read this email. I am Srikanth, an undergrad student at M I T. I appreciate your knowledge and your valuable suggestions to the world of visually challenged. Your advice is needed for a good cause. Please do pay attention to this email. On we half of M I T's visual and computational lab, we are launching oral course where for school and college blind students in India. attached is the summery of the project that we are going to start. Please provide your comments. Please let me know wither anything in this document are not useful. At the same time, please do write your suggestions in separate email. Oral CourseWare Enhancing Educational Opportunities for Blind Children in the Developing World The World Blind Union estimates that fewer than 15% of blind children get any kind of education. The situation is especially alarming in developing nations where key resources like schools and trained teachers are inadequate. It is not realistic to wait for these countries' basic infrastructure to be improved. What we propose instead is a technologically straightforward and potentially far-reaching solution: the development of oral courseware for elementary and middle grades. Such courseware can be distributed at minimal cost and, more importantly, permits independent learning. It thus sidesteps the lack of schooling infrastructure in third-world nations and is rapidly field-deployable. This effort will draw upon the global diversity of MIT's student body who will be enlisted to help create the oral course material. It has good prospects for sustainability and, by making education accessible, holds promise for bringing about a transformative impact on the lives of blind children globally. The Need: Blind children are amongst the most vulnerable segments of a country's population. This is especially true in the developing world where treatment and educational facilities are very limited. According to the WHO, 87% of the world's 1.5 million blind children live in developing nations. In a 2008 report, the World Bank describes the marginalization of children with disabilities. The proportion of such children in the school system in India, for instance, has actually registered a decrease over the past six years. The resulting lack of education has profound downstream consequences. The vast majority of the blind do not get employment (in India, their unemployment rate is estimated to be a startling 99%) leading to poor life prospects and lost productivity at the national level (estimated globally to be in excess of $20 billion annually). Deficient education of the blind is truly a problem of global scope, affecting every developing nation on the planet. In this proposal, we outline a technologically straightforward project that can have far-reaching impact towards improving the educational opportunities available to blind children. There are several hurdles involved in delivering education to blind children in a developing nation. These include: - Limited number of schools for the blind - Inadequate special education facilities in mainstream schools - Lack of teachers trained in the instruction of blind children - Poor availability of course material in Braille and lack of Braille training All of these challenges argue for a non-Braille based instructional system that a blind child can pursue without much involvement of a teacher. Oral courseware is a natural and promising option. Given its obviousness, one would expect it to have been already implemented and widely deployed. The reality, however, is starkly different. A negligible fraction of blind children in the developing world have access to oral courseware, and in fact, such courseware does not even exist for the early school grades. Our Approach: We propose to develop 'oral courseware' targeting the early grades that can be made available to a large number of children and schools for the blind at minimal cost. This approach permits independent learning, and can thus get around the problem of the lack of trained teachers. For ease of getting started, we will focus initially on India, a country that carries the world's greatest burden of childhood blindness. However, given that childhood blindness exists in every nation on the planet, the relevance
Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister
Dear Harish sir, Thank you for your valuable suggestions. We will definitely work on these mistakes. I am one of the member, but I am not the major one. This proposal is made by the team working on this project. Yes I am not the emigrant. Regards, -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of harish Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 12:27 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister Dear Srikant I am unsure if you are an expatriat or emigrant student. My guess is on the former. Before you start your venture, the first thing you need to learn is to respect the sentiments of your target country especially when there is a cultural difference. Your comments: started, we will focus initially on India, a country that carries the world's greatest burden of childhood blindness. My dear, you start off by triggering antogonisim when you use such phrases like carrying burden. Here in India children are not looked upon as a burden. In the school level skipping Braille is not a sensible option. It may be difficult getting a trained Braille teacher, for that one need to address it specifically. You don't drop maths because you think teaching maths is difficult. How do you propose to teach localised subject like history. Is is that there exists only American history , geography and American constitution? and that is all that one need to know? Espicially, for children a teacher is required observe the child and correct the mistakes as soon as it sets in. In the model of self learning, it willgo uncorrected and by the timethe mistakes are detected it would be very difficult or impossible to undo and unlearn it. At that growing age the child has millions questions to ask and learn. What would to kit do. The child would turn to a stone with no one to talk, share or learn with. Schooling is not one learns from textbooks alone. I appreciate your concept and your willingness to do something fruitful. I buy the idea of a self learning kit, however, it should not be a solitary activity and should be under the supervision of the teacher. You can make a supplementary teaching tool. Please don't go by the idea of dropping Braille to the kids. There are some other major hurdles you need to deal with. Local language text to speech synthesizers are yet to be devoloped for many local language in this sub continent. Finally you need to come out of the slum dog snobbish mind set. All schools for the blind at Delhi does not have such bizzare fascilities. Through integrated education students staying at hostels run by instutions run by charity do send some of their children to the best public schools at Delhi. You please do your homework right before dishing such filthy data. Do you equate what lifestyle you have in your gettoes representative of your entire country? Harish Kotian. - Original Message - maths is difficult to tach. From: Srikanth Bolla presidentsrika...@gmail.com To: 'Ashwani' ashwanijas...@gmail.com; accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 12:16 AM Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister Dear list members, I am sorry for the inconvenience. I am pasting the document in this email. Please read this email. I am Srikanth, an undergrad student at M I T. I appreciate your knowledge and your valuable suggestions to the world of visually challenged. Your advice is needed for a good cause. Please do pay attention to this email. On we half of M I T's visual and computational lab, we are launching oral course where for school and college blind students in India. attached is the summery of the project that we are going to start. Please provide your comments. Please let me know wither anything in this document are not useful. At the same time, please do write your suggestions in separate email. Oral CourseWare Enhancing Educational Opportunities for Blind Children in the Developing World The World Blind Union estimates that fewer than 15% of blind children get any kind of education. The situation is especially alarming in developing nations where key resources like schools and trained teachers are inadequate. It is not realistic to wait for these countries' basic infrastructure to be improved. What we propose instead is a technologically straightforward and potentially far-reaching solution: the development of oral courseware for elementary and middle grades. Such courseware can be distributed at minimal cost and, more importantly, permits independent learning. It thus sidesteps the lack of schooling infrastructure in third-world nations and is rapidly field-deployable. This effort will draw upon the global diversity of MIT's student body who will be enlisted to help create the oral course material. It has good prospects for sustainability
Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister (Srikanth Bolla)
Dear Srikanth: Firstly, my hearty congratulations for all your achievements and the initiatives you aare trying to undertake at MIT. 2. Secondly, what harish sir has suggested does not seem to be negative towards you or the initiative u r trying to undertake. 3. Perhaps, you would have carefully read the entire proposal before you send it to the list. As he said, we don't look at our children as the burden. As he also mentioned, you also have lot of other hurdles in the process you are planning to undertake. 1. Language: Different languages in India is something that you'll have to consider while you implement this particular project. For this you should contact some of our hardworking NGOs as they do lot of real work towards our welfare. They'll also be able to supply you lot of volentaries for recording the material in a local language. 2. Braille should be promoted: Secondly, Braille should never be neglected as it is the base for all our modern technologies. I think we don't forget our mother and motherland right? All the modern technologies are developed based on the experience we have with braille. We should encourage our children to read lots and lots of books in braille itself. Reading enhances one's maturity and patience. It also results in lot of confidence in a VI child. Finally, any initiative we undertake should aim at the overall education of a child. It shouldn't be synical to propagate once culture in other countries. I'm trying to explain you these detail since I know you personally, we're from the same school I guess. -- It has been my experience that folks who have no vices have very few virtues. Abraham Lincoln, 1809-1865 With Warm Regards, Govind, Business development Executive and SEO writer: Mobile: 9030915271, 9959392651. Email: sgred...@gmail.com Website: www.dotweb.in www.skillbase.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister (Srikanth Bolla)
Hi brother, How are you? Hope you might have become a big man by now. I haven't seen you since long time. How is your brother? Thank you for your wishes. Your comments will be valued with great care. By the way I did not miss understood Harish sir. I thought It would be good to use polite terms like might, may, please and can, since it is sent to hole list. I am the not main person to edit the proposal. I have also suggested my comments. This is the first time that M I T is launching this kind of project. That is the reason we would like to get input from the most successful stars of our country. Please do post your valuable suggestions to this good cause. All your suggestions will be taken constructive. This list is very helpful in sharing knowledge and wisdom as well. Regards, -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of govind reddy Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 8:11 PM To: accessindia Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister (Srikanth Bolla) Dear Srikanth: Firstly, my hearty congratulations for all your achievements and the initiatives you aare trying to undertake at MIT. 2. Secondly, what harish sir has suggested does not seem to be negative towards you or the initiative u r trying to undertake. 3. Perhaps, you would have carefully read the entire proposal before you send it to the list. As he said, we don't look at our children as the burden. As he also mentioned, you also have lot of other hurdles in the process you are planning to undertake. 1. Language: Different languages in India is something that you'll have to consider while you implement this particular project. For this you should contact some of our hardworking NGOs as they do lot of real work towards our welfare. They'll also be able to supply you lot of volentaries for recording the material in a local language. 2. Braille should be promoted: Secondly, Braille should never be neglected as it is the base for all our modern technologies. I think we don't forget our mother and motherland right? All the modern technologies are developed based on the experience we have with braille. We should encourage our children to read lots and lots of books in braille itself. Reading enhances one's maturity and patience. It also results in lot of confidence in a VI child. Finally, any initiative we undertake should aim at the overall education of a child. It shouldn't be synical to propagate once culture in other countries. I'm trying to explain you these detail since I know you personally, we're from the same school I guess. -- It has been my experience that folks who have no vices have very few virtues. Abraham Lincoln, 1809-1865 With Warm Regards, Govind, Business development Executive and SEO writer: Mobile: 9030915271, 9959392651. Email: sgred...@gmail.com Website: www.dotweb.in www.skillbase.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister
I am not sure, why under the heading of draft petition to railway minister, this oral courseware of MIT is being discussed It is nothing, in my view, but to record audio books for primary education where Children should be taught to read in Braille and write it in any setting be it a blind school or integrated setup, or a purely sighted school, listening to audio books does come later and is not a substitute for basic competencies of reading and writing. And, yes, the attitude of materially developed nations, -- (often at the cost of systematic exploitation of so-called third world)--, is more often than not, condescending enough to warrant a slap in the face. Regards Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create Him. --Arthur C. Clarke (Rajesh Asudani) Assistant General Manager, Reserve Bank of India Nagpur 09420397185 O: 0712 2806676 Res: 0712 2591349 -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Srikanth Bolla Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 11:07 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister Dear Harish sir, Thank you for your valuable suggestions. We will definitely work on these mistakes. I am one of the member, but I am not the major one. This proposal is made by the team working on this project. Yes I am not the emigrant. Regards, -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of harish Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 12:27 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister Dear Srikant I am unsure if you are an expatriat or emigrant student. My guess is on the former. Before you start your venture, the first thing you need to learn is to respect the sentiments of your target country especially when there is a cultural difference. Your comments: started, we will focus initially on India, a country that carries the world's greatest burden of childhood blindness. My dear, you start off by triggering antogonisim when you use such phrases like carrying burden. Here in India children are not looked upon as a burden. In the school level skipping Braille is not a sensible option. It may be difficult getting a trained Braille teacher, for that one need to address it specifically. You don't drop maths because you think teaching maths is difficult. How do you propose to teach localised subject like history. Is is that there exists only American history , geography and American constitution? and that is all that one need to know? Espicially, for children a teacher is required observe the child and correct the mistakes as soon as it sets in. In the model of self learning, it willgo uncorrected and by the timethe mistakes are detected it would be very difficult or impossible to undo and unlearn it. At that growing age the child has millions questions to ask and learn. What would to kit do. The child would turn to a stone with no one to talk, share or learn with. Schooling is not one learns from textbooks alone. I appreciate your concept and your willingness to do something fruitful. I buy the idea of a self learning kit, however, it should not be a solitary activity and should be under the supervision of the teacher. You can make a supplementary teaching tool. Please don't go by the idea of dropping Braille to the kids. There are some other major hurdles you need to deal with. Local language text to speech synthesizers are yet to be devoloped for many local language in this sub continent. Finally you need to come out of the slum dog snobbish mind set. All schools for the blind at Delhi does not have such bizzare fascilities. Through integrated education students staying at hostels run by instutions run by charity do send some of their children to the best public schools at Delhi. You please do your homework right before dishing such filthy data. Do you equate what lifestyle you have in your gettoes representative of your entire country? Harish Kotian. - Original Message - maths is difficult to tach. From: Srikanth Bolla presidentsrika...@gmail.com To: 'Ashwani' ashwanijas...@gmail.com; accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 12:16 AM Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister Dear list members, I am sorry for the inconvenience. I am pasting the document in this email. Please read this email. I am Srikanth, an undergrad student at M I T. I appreciate your knowledge and your valuable suggestions to the world of visually challenged. Your advice is needed for a good cause. Please do pay attention to this email. On we half of M I T's visual and computational lab, we are launching oral course where for school and college blind students in India. attached is the summery
Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister
well said. I support your points and arguement in this connection - Original Message - From: Himanshu Sahu sahu.himanshu2...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 3:02 PM Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister Reservations and Concessions are given to the several sections of the society. I don’t see anything wrong in demanding the equal opportunity for us in the context of concessions in trains like Rajdhani and Shatabdi. 1. There are reservations for SC, ST, OBC and the latest addition is demand of reservations and concessions on the basis of a particular religion in the educational institutions, jobs and several other fields. This is called “right” in the words of their representatives and politicians. 2. Leaders who are running the country and these departments are our representative, not emperors. Its their duty to facilitate parity and opportunity for us. 3. The family and relatives of MP, MLAs avail the benefit of concessions. And the burden ultimately comes on public. According to me this is the privilege offered to them by us instead of facilities provided to us. The bottom line is if we have strong voice and representatives in society, politics and government then what we demand is “right”, if not then its privilege”. Thanks (on the behalf of Kamal Verma) On 2/11/10, Kamal Verma kamalve...@pnb.co.in wrote: Privilege depends upon the issuers, not on the wish of beneficiaries. - Original Message - From: Subramani L lsubram...@deccanherald.co.in To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 4:34 PM Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister If so why not that be extended to Shatabhdi and Rajdhani as well? Subramani -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kamal Verma Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 1:08 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister Concession ticket is not our right. Its our privilege. Hence we should not demand for any more concession. Thanks. Kamal Verma - Original Message - From: Namita Agarwal namitaagarwa...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 11:44 AM Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister can you add Concessional tickets for rajdhani trains too . reason it consumes lesser time and the train is a little more hygenic .this is for out stationed trains, this is from a ladies or from my point of view. regards namita. On 2/11/10, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote: Well, Nilesh Handicapped, or rather disabled coach, is not connected to general coach, but it is placed adjacent to it. It is not vestibuled to any coach at present. Placing at extremities makes its location uncertain beside rendering it difficult, nay impossible many times to board conveniently due to no overhead shade at the end of platform, and at times, no platform floor extending to cover all coaches. Suggestion of two coaches is most unlikely to be accepted, and so, I maintain the stand that the disabled coach be vestibuled in the approximate middle, Regarding rush, less said better, however, in the middle rush comprises those of traveling in reserved compartments and not those in general so logically it should be less and relatively well behaved. Regards Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create Him. --Arthur C. Clarke (Rajesh Asudani) Assistant General Manager, Reserve Bank of India Nagpur 09420397185 O: 0712 2806676 Res: 0712 2591349 -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of nilesh sonar Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:21 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Draft petition to the railwayMinister hello all I really appreciate this step And find it well drafted I have some more suggestion Many a time the handicap coach is connected to the general coach because of this ordinary person who is in hurry to get in to the train occupy the handicap coach, In such situation it is vary difficult to any disabled person to find a seat or get in to the train. Solution: The handicap coach should not connected to the general coach. I thing there should be two handicap coach one at frontin the first coach and secand at last before Gards coach. I think keeping handicap coach in the middle of the train will cause inconveniency Because during arrival and departure there is to much rush on the platform comparatively it is less at frunt and back side of the train and it is vary easy to find also. from nilesh Mo: 9226448091 On 2/10/10, Kotian, H P
Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister
Dear Chandreshekar At our end, the pettition has already gone to the ministry. Now, it is for each one of us to send it in our individual capacity to do so. You are free to make your own addition or amendments you deem fit. Harish Kotian - Original Message - From: m.chandrashekar chandru...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 7:39 AM Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister well said. I support your points and arguement in this connection - Original Message - From: Himanshu Sahu sahu.himanshu2...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 3:02 PM Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister Reservations and Concessions are given to the several sections of the society. I don’t see anything wrong in demanding the equal opportunity for us in the context of concessions in trains like Rajdhani and Shatabdi. 1. There are reservations for SC, ST, OBC and the latest addition is demand of reservations and concessions on the basis of a particular religion in the educational institutions, jobs and several other fields. This is called “right” in the words of their representatives and politicians. 2. Leaders who are running the country and these departments are our representative, not emperors. Its their duty to facilitate parity and opportunity for us. 3. The family and relatives of MP, MLAs avail the benefit of concessions. And the burden ultimately comes on public. According to me this is the privilege offered to them by us instead of facilities provided to us. The bottom line is if we have strong voice and representatives in society, politics and government then what we demand is “right”, if not then its privilege”. Thanks (on the behalf of Kamal Verma) On 2/11/10, Kamal Verma kamalve...@pnb.co.in wrote: Privilege depends upon the issuers, not on the wish of beneficiaries. - Original Message - From: Subramani L lsubram...@deccanherald.co.in To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 4:34 PM Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister If so why not that be extended to Shatabhdi and Rajdhani as well? Subramani -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kamal Verma Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 1:08 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister Concession ticket is not our right. Its our privilege. Hence we should not demand for any more concession. Thanks. Kamal Verma - Original Message - From: Namita Agarwal namitaagarwa...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 11:44 AM Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister can you add Concessional tickets for rajdhani trains too . reason it consumes lesser time and the train is a little more hygenic .this is for out stationed trains, this is from a ladies or from my point of view. regards namita. On 2/11/10, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote: Well, Nilesh Handicapped, or rather disabled coach, is not connected to general coach, but it is placed adjacent to it. It is not vestibuled to any coach at present. Placing at extremities makes its location uncertain beside rendering it difficult, nay impossible many times to board conveniently due to no overhead shade at the end of platform, and at times, no platform floor extending to cover all coaches. Suggestion of two coaches is most unlikely to be accepted, and so, I maintain the stand that the disabled coach be vestibuled in the approximate middle, Regarding rush, less said better, however, in the middle rush comprises those of traveling in reserved compartments and not those in general so logically it should be less and relatively well behaved. Regards Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create Him. --Arthur C. Clarke (Rajesh Asudani) Assistant General Manager, Reserve Bank of India Nagpur 09420397185 O: 0712 2806676 Res: 0712 2591349 -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of nilesh sonar Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:21 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Draft petition to the railwayMinister hello all I really appreciate this step And find it well drafted I have some more suggestion Many a time the handicap coach is connected to the general coach because of this ordinary person who is in hurry to get in to the train occupy the handicap coach, In such situation it is vary difficult to any disabled person to find a seat or get in to the train. Solution: The handicap coach should not connected to the general coach. I thing there should be two handicap coach one at front
Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister
Hello Sir,, It is so glad to hear that the draft was submitted to the railway minister. Will you please circulate the final draft among list? Will you please inform E mail iD of railway minister? Thanks in advance, Janardhana Naidu. - Original Message - From: harish har...@accessindia.org.in To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 3:35 PM Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister Dear Chandreshekar At our end, the pettition has already gone to the ministry. Now, it is for each one of us to send it in our individual capacity to do so. You are free to make your own addition or amendments you deem fit. Harish Kotian - Original Message - From: m.chandrashekar chandru...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 7:39 AM Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister well said. I support your points and arguement in this connection - Original Message - From: Himanshu Sahu sahu.himanshu2...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 3:02 PM Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister Reservations and Concessions are given to the several sections of the society. I don’t see anything wrong in demanding the equal opportunity for us in the context of concessions in trains like Rajdhani and Shatabdi. 1. There are reservations for SC, ST, OBC and the latest addition is demand of reservations and concessions on the basis of a particular religion in the educational institutions, jobs and several other fields. This is called “right” in the words of their representatives and politicians. 2. Leaders who are running the country and these departments are our representative, not emperors. Its their duty to facilitate parity and opportunity for us. 3. The family and relatives of MP, MLAs avail the benefit of concessions. And the burden ultimately comes on public. According to me this is the privilege offered to them by us instead of facilities provided to us. The bottom line is if we have strong voice and representatives in society, politics and government then what we demand is “right”, if not then its privilege”. Thanks (on the behalf of Kamal Verma) On 2/11/10, Kamal Verma kamalve...@pnb.co.in wrote: Privilege depends upon the issuers, not on the wish of beneficiaries. - Original Message - From: Subramani L lsubram...@deccanherald.co.in To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 4:34 PM Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister If so why not that be extended to Shatabhdi and Rajdhani as well? Subramani -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kamal Verma Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 1:08 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister Concession ticket is not our right. Its our privilege. Hence we should not demand for any more concession. Thanks. Kamal Verma - Original Message - From: Namita Agarwal namitaagarwa...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 11:44 AM Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister can you add Concessional tickets for rajdhani trains too . reason it consumes lesser time and the train is a little more hygenic .this is for out stationed trains, this is from a ladies or from my point of view. regards namita. On 2/11/10, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote: Well, Nilesh Handicapped, or rather disabled coach, is not connected to general coach, but it is placed adjacent to it. It is not vestibuled to any coach at present. Placing at extremities makes its location uncertain beside rendering it difficult, nay impossible many times to board conveniently due to no overhead shade at the end of platform, and at times, no platform floor extending to cover all coaches. Suggestion of two coaches is most unlikely to be accepted, and so, I maintain the stand that the disabled coach be vestibuled in the approximate middle, Regarding rush, less said better, however, in the middle rush comprises those of traveling in reserved compartments and not those in general so logically it should be less and relatively well behaved. Regards Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create Him. --Arthur C. Clarke (Rajesh Asudani) Assistant General Manager, Reserve Bank of India Nagpur 09420397185 O: 0712 2806676 Res: 0712 2591349 -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of nilesh sonar Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:21 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Draft petition to the railwayMinister hello all I really appreciate this step And find it well drafted I
Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister
Harish: Where do we find the ID of the Minsitry? Subramani -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Janardhana Naidu Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 4:42 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister Hello Sir,, It is so glad to hear that the draft was submitted to the railway minister. Will you please circulate the final draft among list? Will you please inform E mail iD of railway minister? Thanks in advance, Janardhana Naidu. - Original Message - From: harish har...@accessindia.org.in To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 3:35 PM Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister Dear Chandreshekar At our end, the pettition has already gone to the ministry. Now, it is for each one of us to send it in our individual capacity to do so. You are free to make your own addition or amendments you deem fit. Harish Kotian - Original Message - From: m.chandrashekar chandru...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 7:39 AM Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister well said. I support your points and arguement in this connection - Original Message - From: Himanshu Sahu sahu.himanshu2...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 3:02 PM Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister Reservations and Concessions are given to the several sections of the society. I don't see anything wrong in demanding the equal opportunity for us in the context of concessions in trains like Rajdhani and Shatabdi. 1. There are reservations for SC, ST, OBC and the latest addition is demand of reservations and concessions on the basis of a particular religion in the educational institutions, jobs and several other fields. This is called right in the words of their representatives and politicians. 2. Leaders who are running the country and these departments are our representative, not emperors. Its their duty to facilitate parity and opportunity for us. 3. The family and relatives of MP, MLAs avail the benefit of concessions. And the burden ultimately comes on public. According to me this is the privilege offered to them by us instead of facilities provided to us. The bottom line is if we have strong voice and representatives in society, politics and government then what we demand is right, if not then its privilege. Thanks (on the behalf of Kamal Verma) On 2/11/10, Kamal Verma kamalve...@pnb.co.in wrote: Privilege depends upon the issuers, not on the wish of beneficiaries. - Original Message - From: Subramani L lsubram...@deccanherald.co.in To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 4:34 PM Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister If so why not that be extended to Shatabhdi and Rajdhani as well? Subramani -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kamal Verma Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 1:08 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister Concession ticket is not our right. Its our privilege. Hence we should not demand for any more concession. Thanks. Kamal Verma - Original Message - From: Namita Agarwal namitaagarwa...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 11:44 AM Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister can you add Concessional tickets for rajdhani trains too . reason it consumes lesser time and the train is a little more hygenic .this is for out stationed trains, this is from a ladies or from my point of view. regards namita. On 2/11/10, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote: Well, Nilesh Handicapped, or rather disabled coach, is not connected to general coach, but it is placed adjacent to it. It is not vestibuled to any coach at present. Placing at extremities makes its location uncertain beside rendering it difficult, nay impossible many times to board conveniently due to no overhead shade at the end of platform, and at times, no platform floor extending to cover all coaches. Suggestion of two coaches is most unlikely to be accepted, and so, I maintain the stand that the disabled coach be vestibuled in the approximate middle, Regarding rush, less said better, however, in the middle rush comprises those of traveling in reserved compartments and not those in general so logically it should be less and relatively well behaved. Regards Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create Him. --Arthur C. Clarke (Rajesh Asudani) Assistant General Manager, Reserve Bank of India Nagpur 09420397185 O
Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister
What is the final Draft? It should be posted on the list. - Original Message - From: harish har...@accessindia.org.in To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 3:35 PM Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister Dear Chandreshekar At our end, the pettition has already gone to the ministry. Now, it is for each one of us to send it in our individual capacity to do so. You are free to make your own addition or amendments you deem fit. Harish Kotian - Original Message - From: m.chandrashekar chandru...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 7:39 AM Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister well said. I support your points and arguement in this connection - Original Message - From: Himanshu Sahu sahu.himanshu2...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 3:02 PM Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister Reservations and Concessions are given to the several sections of the society. I don’t see anything wrong in demanding the equal opportunity for us in the context of concessions in trains like Rajdhani and Shatabdi. 1. There are reservations for SC, ST, OBC and the latest addition is demand of reservations and concessions on the basis of a particular religion in the educational institutions, jobs and several other fields. This is called “right” in the words of their representatives and politicians. 2. Leaders who are running the country and these departments are our representative, not emperors. Its their duty to facilitate parity and opportunity for us. 3. The family and relatives of MP, MLAs avail the benefit of concessions. And the burden ultimately comes on public. According to me this is the privilege offered to them by us instead of facilities provided to us. The bottom line is if we have strong voice and representatives in society, politics and government then what we demand is “right”, if not then its privilege”. Thanks (on the behalf of Kamal Verma) On 2/11/10, Kamal Verma kamalve...@pnb.co.in wrote: Privilege depends upon the issuers, not on the wish of beneficiaries. - Original Message - From: Subramani L lsubram...@deccanherald.co.in To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 4:34 PM Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister If so why not that be extended to Shatabhdi and Rajdhani as well? Subramani -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kamal Verma Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 1:08 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister Concession ticket is not our right. Its our privilege. Hence we should not demand for any more concession. Thanks. Kamal Verma - Original Message - From: Namita Agarwal namitaagarwa...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 11:44 AM Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister can you add Concessional tickets for rajdhani trains too . reason it consumes lesser time and the train is a little more hygenic .this is for out stationed trains, this is from a ladies or from my point of view. regards namita. On 2/11/10, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote: Well, Nilesh Handicapped, or rather disabled coach, is not connected to general coach, but it is placed adjacent to it. It is not vestibuled to any coach at present. Placing at extremities makes its location uncertain beside rendering it difficult, nay impossible many times to board conveniently due to no overhead shade at the end of platform, and at times, no platform floor extending to cover all coaches. Suggestion of two coaches is most unlikely to be accepted, and so, I maintain the stand that the disabled coach be vestibuled in the approximate middle, Regarding rush, less said better, however, in the middle rush comprises those of traveling in reserved compartments and not those in general so logically it should be less and relatively well behaved. Regards Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create Him. --Arthur C. Clarke (Rajesh Asudani) Assistant General Manager, Reserve Bank of India Nagpur 09420397185 O: 0712 2806676 Res: 0712 2591349 -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of nilesh sonar Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:21 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Draft petition to the railwayMinister hello all I really appreciate this step And find it well drafted I have some more suggestion Many a time the handicap coach is connected to the general coach because of this ordinary person who is in hurry to get in to the train occupy
Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister
the oral courseware available to children not in a
school system. In that context, we will need to enlist the support of
parents, community workers, and teachers of the Sarv Shiksha Abhiyan
('Education for All') to provide the supervisory function.
Impact:
This initiative holds the promise of improving the lives of hundreds of
thousands of blind children, who at present have little or no prospects for
obtaining an education. The oral course-ware will be of use not only to
children with blindness, but even those without disabilities who might not
have access to schools. These include children in rural areas and those in
financially strapped families.
Education is one of the most powerful means of personal and national
development. We hope that our effort will help bring about a transformative
change in the lives of many children who are at present deprived of this
basic necessity. It is fitting that this initiative be undertaken at MIT, a
place synonymous with learning and education.
Sustainability:
The long-term plan is to continue to create Oral Courseware for other age
groups, as well as in multiple languages, for different developing
countries. Seed funding from MISTI will allow us to demonstrate the
significant impact this initiative can have on children's education. This
will position us well to attract funding from major educational foundations,
governmental sources, UNESCO, the World Bank and corporate entities.
Individual philanthropy will also be feasible since small donations can be
tied to specific goals (providing oral courseware to individual children or
schools).
*** need to have a for-profit business model too ***
-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Ashwani
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 1:17 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister
What is the final Draft? It should be posted on the list.
- Original Message -
From: harish har...@accessindia.org.in
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister
Dear Chandreshekar
At our end, the pettition has already gone to the ministry.
Now, it is for each one of us to send it in our individual capacity to do
so. You are free to make your own addition or amendments you deem fit.
Harish Kotian
- Original Message -
From: m.chandrashekar chandru...@gmail.com
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 7:39 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister
well said. I support your points and arguement in this connection
- Original Message -
From: Himanshu Sahu sahu.himanshu2...@gmail.com
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 3:02 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister
Reservations and Concessions are given to the several sections of the
society.
I don't see anything wrong in demanding the equal opportunity for us
in the context of concessions in trains like Rajdhani and Shatabdi.
1. There are reservations for SC, ST, OBC and the latest addition is
demand of reservations and concessions on the basis of a particular
religion in the educational institutions, jobs and several other
fields. This is called right in the words of their representatives
and politicians.
2. Leaders who are running the country and these departments are our
representative, not emperors. Its their duty to facilitate parity and
opportunity for us.
3. The family and relatives of MP, MLAs avail the benefit of
concessions. And the burden ultimately comes on public. According to
me this is the privilege offered to them by us instead of facilities
provided to us.
The bottom line is if we have strong voice and representatives in
society, politics and government then what we demand is right, if
not then its privilege.
Thanks
(on the behalf of Kamal Verma)
On 2/11/10, Kamal Verma kamalve...@pnb.co.in wrote:
Privilege depends upon the issuers, not on the wish of beneficiaries.
- Original Message -
From: Subramani L lsubram...@deccanherald.co.in
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 4:34 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister
If so why not that be extended to Shatabhdi and Rajdhani as well?
Subramani
-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kamal Verma
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 1:08 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister
Concession ticket is not our right. Its our privilege. Hence we should
not
demand for any more concession.
Thanks.
Kamal Verma
- Original Message -
From: Namita Agarwal namitaagarwa...@gmail.com
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Thursday
Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister
, when we work with ten schools for the blind,
it will be straightforward to address the supervision problem. Teachers in
the partner schools, with only a little effort, will be able to ensure a
minimum level of compliance from the students. The challenge becomes more
significant when we make the oral courseware available to children not in a
school system. In that context, we will need to enlist the support of
parents, community workers, and teachers of the Sarv Shiksha Abhiyan
('Education for All') to provide the supervisory function.
Impact:
This initiative holds the promise of improving the lives of hundreds of
thousands of blind children, who at present have little or no prospects for
obtaining an education. The oral course-ware will be of use not only to
children with blindness, but even those without disabilities who might not
have access to schools. These include children in rural areas and those in
financially strapped families.
Education is one of the most powerful means of personal and national
development. We hope that our effort will help bring about a transformative
change in the lives of many children who are at present deprived of this
basic necessity. It is fitting that this initiative be undertaken at MIT, a
place synonymous with learning and education.
Sustainability:
The long-term plan is to continue to create Oral Courseware for other age
groups, as well as in multiple languages, for different developing
countries. Seed funding from MISTI will allow us to demonstrate the
significant impact this initiative can have on children's education. This
will position us well to attract funding from major educational foundations,
governmental sources, UNESCO, the World Bank and corporate entities.
Individual philanthropy will also be feasible since small donations can be
tied to specific goals (providing oral courseware to individual children or
schools).
*** need to have a for-profit business model too ***
-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Ashwani
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 1:17 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister
What is the final Draft? It should be posted on the list.
- Original Message -
From: harish har...@accessindia.org.in
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister
Dear Chandreshekar
At our end, the pettition has already gone to the ministry.
Now, it is for each one of us to send it in our individual capacity to do
so. You are free to make your own addition or amendments you deem fit.
Harish Kotian
- Original Message -
From: m.chandrashekar chandru...@gmail.com
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 7:39 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister
well said. I support your points and arguement in this connection
- Original Message -
From: Himanshu Sahu sahu.himanshu2...@gmail.com
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 3:02 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister
Reservations and Concessions are given to the several sections of the
society.
I don't see anything wrong in demanding the equal opportunity for us
in the context of concessions in trains like Rajdhani and Shatabdi.
1. There are reservations for SC, ST, OBC and the latest addition is
demand of reservations and concessions on the basis of a particular
religion in the educational institutions, jobs and several other
fields. This is called right in the words of their representatives
and politicians.
2. Leaders who are running the country and these departments are our
representative, not emperors. Its their duty to facilitate parity and
opportunity for us.
3. The family and relatives of MP, MLAs avail the benefit of
concessions. And the burden ultimately comes on public. According to
me this is the privilege offered to them by us instead of facilities
provided to us.
The bottom line is if we have strong voice and representatives in
society, politics and government then what we demand is right, if
not then its privilege.
Thanks
(on the behalf of Kamal Verma)
On 2/11/10, Kamal Verma kamalve...@pnb.co.in wrote:
Privilege depends upon the issuers, not on the wish of beneficiaries.
- Original Message -
From: Subramani L lsubram...@deccanherald.co.in
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 4:34 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister
If so why not that be extended to Shatabhdi and Rajdhani as well?
Subramani
-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kamal Verma
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 1:08
Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister
Reservations and Concessions are given to the several sections of the society. I don’t see anything wrong in demanding the equal opportunity for us in the context of concessions in trains like Rajdhani and Shatabdi. 1. There are reservations for SC, ST, OBC and the latest addition is demand of reservations and concessions on the basis of a particular religion in the educational institutions, jobs and several other fields. This is called “right” in the words of their representatives and politicians. 2. Leaders who are running the country and these departments are our representative, not emperors. Its their duty to facilitate parity and opportunity for us. 3. The family and relatives of MP, MLAs avail the benefit of concessions. And the burden ultimately comes on public. According to me this is the privilege offered to them by us instead of facilities provided to us. The bottom line is if we have strong voice and representatives in society, politics and government then what we demand is “right”, if not then its privilege”. Thanks (on the behalf of Kamal Verma) On 2/11/10, Kamal Verma kamalve...@pnb.co.in wrote: Privilege depends upon the issuers, not on the wish of beneficiaries. - Original Message - From: Subramani L lsubram...@deccanherald.co.in To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 4:34 PM Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister If so why not that be extended to Shatabhdi and Rajdhani as well? Subramani -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kamal Verma Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 1:08 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister Concession ticket is not our right. Its our privilege. Hence we should not demand for any more concession. Thanks. Kamal Verma - Original Message - From: Namita Agarwal namitaagarwa...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 11:44 AM Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister can you add Concessional tickets for rajdhani trains too . reason it consumes lesser time and the train is a little more hygenic .this is for out stationed trains, this is from a ladies or from my point of view. regards namita. On 2/11/10, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote: Well, Nilesh Handicapped, or rather disabled coach, is not connected to general coach, but it is placed adjacent to it. It is not vestibuled to any coach at present. Placing at extremities makes its location uncertain beside rendering it difficult, nay impossible many times to board conveniently due to no overhead shade at the end of platform, and at times, no platform floor extending to cover all coaches. Suggestion of two coaches is most unlikely to be accepted, and so, I maintain the stand that the disabled coach be vestibuled in the approximate middle, Regarding rush, less said better, however, in the middle rush comprises those of traveling in reserved compartments and not those in general so logically it should be less and relatively well behaved. Regards Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create Him. --Arthur C. Clarke (Rajesh Asudani) Assistant General Manager, Reserve Bank of India Nagpur 09420397185 O: 0712 2806676 Res: 0712 2591349 -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of nilesh sonar Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:21 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Draft petition to the railwayMinister hello all I really appreciate this step And find it well drafted I have some more suggestion Many a time the handicap coach is connected to the general coach because of this ordinary person who is in hurry to get in to the train occupy the handicap coach, In such situation it is vary difficult to any disabled person to find a seat or get in to the train. Solution: The handicap coach should not connected to the general coach. I thing there should be two handicap coach one at frontin the first coach and secand at last before Gards coach. I think keeping handicap coach in the middle of the train will cause inconveniency Because during arrival and departure there is to much rush on the platform comparatively it is less at frunt and back side of the train and it is vary easy to find also. from nilesh Mo: 9226448091 On 2/10/10, Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in wrote: Hello All Placed below is the draft petition which we shall be sending to the railway minister. If there is any omission pl let us know by feb 11. Let me clarify, we have only mentioned visually disabled as we believe we should speak
Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister
Exactly. Even i don't think any wrong if it's extended to Rajdhani and Shatabdi trains. in fact, i don't know why it's not been done so far. Regards. Sandesh - Original Message - From: Himanshu Sahu sahu.himanshu2...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 3:02 PM Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister Reservations and Concessions are given to the several sections of the society. I don’t see anything wrong in demanding the equal opportunity for us in the context of concessions in trains like Rajdhani and Shatabdi. 1. There are reservations for SC, ST, OBC and the latest addition is demand of reservations and concessions on the basis of a particular religion in the educational institutions, jobs and several other fields. This is called “right” in the words of their representatives and politicians. 2. Leaders who are running the country and these departments are our representative, not emperors. Its their duty to facilitate parity and opportunity for us. 3. The family and relatives of MP, MLAs avail the benefit of concessions. And the burden ultimately comes on public. According to me this is the privilege offered to them by us instead of facilities provided to us. The bottom line is if we have strong voice and representatives in society, politics and government then what we demand is “right”, if not then its privilege”. Thanks (on the behalf of Kamal Verma) On 2/11/10, Kamal Verma kamalve...@pnb.co.in wrote: Privilege depends upon the issuers, not on the wish of beneficiaries. - Original Message - From: Subramani L lsubram...@deccanherald.co.in To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 4:34 PM Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister If so why not that be extended to Shatabhdi and Rajdhani as well? Subramani -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kamal Verma Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 1:08 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister Concession ticket is not our right. Its our privilege. Hence we should not demand for any more concession. Thanks. Kamal Verma - Original Message - From: Namita Agarwal namitaagarwa...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 11:44 AM Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister can you add Concessional tickets for rajdhani trains too . reason it consumes lesser time and the train is a little more hygenic .this is for out stationed trains, this is from a ladies or from my point of view. regards namita. On 2/11/10, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote: Well, Nilesh Handicapped, or rather disabled coach, is not connected to general coach, but it is placed adjacent to it. It is not vestibuled to any coach at present. Placing at extremities makes its location uncertain beside rendering it difficult, nay impossible many times to board conveniently due to no overhead shade at the end of platform, and at times, no platform floor extending to cover all coaches. Suggestion of two coaches is most unlikely to be accepted, and so, I maintain the stand that the disabled coach be vestibuled in the approximate middle, Regarding rush, less said better, however, in the middle rush comprises those of traveling in reserved compartments and not those in general so logically it should be less and relatively well behaved. Regards Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create Him. --Arthur C. Clarke (Rajesh Asudani) Assistant General Manager, Reserve Bank of India Nagpur 09420397185 O: 0712 2806676 Res: 0712 2591349 -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of nilesh sonar Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:21 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Draft petition to the railwayMinister hello all I really appreciate this step And find it well drafted I have some more suggestion Many a time the handicap coach is connected to the general coach because of this ordinary person who is in hurry to get in to the train occupy the handicap coach, In such situation it is vary difficult to any disabled person to find a seat or get in to the train. Solution: The handicap coach should not connected to the general coach. I thing there should be two handicap coach one at frontin the first coach and secand at last before Gards coach. I think keeping handicap coach in the middle of the train will cause inconveniency Because during arrival and departure there is to much rush on the platform comparatively it is less at frunt and back side of the train and it is vary easy to find also. from nilesh Mo: 9226448091
Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister
If so why not that be extended to Shatabhdi and Rajdhani as well? Subramani -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kamal Verma Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 1:08 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister Concession ticket is not our right. Its our privilege. Hence we should not demand for any more concession. Thanks. Kamal Verma - Original Message - From: Namita Agarwal namitaagarwa...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 11:44 AM Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister can you add Concessional tickets for rajdhani trains too . reason it consumes lesser time and the train is a little more hygenic .this is for out stationed trains, this is from a ladies or from my point of view. regards namita. On 2/11/10, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote: Well, Nilesh Handicapped, or rather disabled coach, is not connected to general coach, but it is placed adjacent to it. It is not vestibuled to any coach at present. Placing at extremities makes its location uncertain beside rendering it difficult, nay impossible many times to board conveniently due to no overhead shade at the end of platform, and at times, no platform floor extending to cover all coaches. Suggestion of two coaches is most unlikely to be accepted, and so, I maintain the stand that the disabled coach be vestibuled in the approximate middle, Regarding rush, less said better, however, in the middle rush comprises those of traveling in reserved compartments and not those in general so logically it should be less and relatively well behaved. Regards Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create Him. --Arthur C. Clarke (Rajesh Asudani) Assistant General Manager, Reserve Bank of India Nagpur 09420397185 O: 0712 2806676 Res: 0712 2591349 -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of nilesh sonar Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:21 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Draft petition to the railwayMinister hello all I really appreciate this step And find it well drafted I have some more suggestion Many a time the handicap coach is connected to the general coach because of this ordinary person who is in hurry to get in to the train occupy the handicap coach, In such situation it is vary difficult to any disabled person to find a seat or get in to the train. Solution: The handicap coach should not connected to the general coach. I thing there should be two handicap coach one at frontin the first coach and secand at last before Gards coach. I think keeping handicap coach in the middle of the train will cause inconveniency Because during arrival and departure there is to much rush on the platform comparatively it is less at frunt and back side of the train and it is vary easy to find also. from nilesh Mo: 9226448091 On 2/10/10, Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in wrote: Hello All Placed below is the draft petition which we shall be sending to the railway minister. If there is any omission pl let us know by feb 11. Let me clarify, we have only mentioned visually disabled as we believe we should speak for that sectorfor which we are qualified to do so. Otherwise it would be speaking for them and we would be committing the same error for which we find uncomfortable when others tend to do for us the blind. We shall fully support the endeavor from the other segment of the disabled. We shall also include in this petition if it comes from those persons or representative organizations. Pl read on Warmly Harish Kotian Honorable Minister for Railways Respected Madam Accessibility policy in the railway budget On behalf of the blind community and disability community at large, we request you to include an accessibility policy while presenting the forthcoming railway budget. Justification: A large number of disabled passengers avail the services of the railways and find the services to be unfriendly and not meeting the minimum accessibility requirements under the law. This has resulted in needless hardship and accidents which could have been easily avoided. This Grimm outlook however, can be reversed with an effective, comprehensive accessibility policy. Scope: It should touch all services rendered by the railways and should not only cover the passengers but should also extend to all disabled employees. We would like the railways to also be the largest equal opportunity employer. Problems faced by blind passengers and solutions: Problem: The ticket clerks often are unwilling to issue
Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister
Privilege depends upon the issuers, not on the wish of beneficiaries. - Original Message - From: Subramani L lsubram...@deccanherald.co.in To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 4:34 PM Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister If so why not that be extended to Shatabhdi and Rajdhani as well? Subramani -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kamal Verma Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 1:08 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister Concession ticket is not our right. Its our privilege. Hence we should not demand for any more concession. Thanks. Kamal Verma - Original Message - From: Namita Agarwal namitaagarwa...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 11:44 AM Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister can you add Concessional tickets for rajdhani trains too . reason it consumes lesser time and the train is a little more hygenic .this is for out stationed trains, this is from a ladies or from my point of view. regards namita. On 2/11/10, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote: Well, Nilesh Handicapped, or rather disabled coach, is not connected to general coach, but it is placed adjacent to it. It is not vestibuled to any coach at present. Placing at extremities makes its location uncertain beside rendering it difficult, nay impossible many times to board conveniently due to no overhead shade at the end of platform, and at times, no platform floor extending to cover all coaches. Suggestion of two coaches is most unlikely to be accepted, and so, I maintain the stand that the disabled coach be vestibuled in the approximate middle, Regarding rush, less said better, however, in the middle rush comprises those of traveling in reserved compartments and not those in general so logically it should be less and relatively well behaved. Regards Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create Him. --Arthur C. Clarke (Rajesh Asudani) Assistant General Manager, Reserve Bank of India Nagpur 09420397185 O: 0712 2806676 Res: 0712 2591349 -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of nilesh sonar Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:21 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Draft petition to the railwayMinister hello all I really appreciate this step And find it well drafted I have some more suggestion Many a time the handicap coach is connected to the general coach because of this ordinary person who is in hurry to get in to the train occupy the handicap coach, In such situation it is vary difficult to any disabled person to find a seat or get in to the train. Solution: The handicap coach should not connected to the general coach. I thing there should be two handicap coach one at frontin the first coach and secand at last before Gards coach. I think keeping handicap coach in the middle of the train will cause inconveniency Because during arrival and departure there is to much rush on the platform comparatively it is less at frunt and back side of the train and it is vary easy to find also. from nilesh Mo: 9226448091 On 2/10/10, Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in wrote: Hello All Placed below is the draft petition which we shall be sending to the railway minister. If there is any omission pl let us know by feb 11. Let me clarify, we have only mentioned visually disabled as we believe we should speak for that sectorfor which we are qualified to do so. Otherwise it would be speaking for them and we would be committing the same error for which we find uncomfortable when others tend to do for us the blind. We shall fully support the endeavor from the other segment of the disabled. We shall also include in this petition if it comes from those persons or representative organizations. Pl read on Warmly Harish Kotian Honorable Minister for Railways Respected Madam Accessibility policy in the railway budget On behalf of the blind community and disability community at large, we request you to include an accessibility policy while presenting the forthcoming railway budget. Justification: A large number of disabled passengers avail the services of the railways and find the services to be unfriendly and not meeting the minimum accessibility requirements under the law. This has resulted in needless hardship and accidents which could have been easily avoided. This Grimm outlook however, can be reversed with an effective, comprehensive accessibility policy. Scope: It should touch all services rendered by the railways and should not only cover the passengers but should also
Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister
non of Any benefit is given without making demand to concerned authority, even right too. When concessions may be given to Senior citizens in Rajdhani and Shatabdi trains, then why at least same can not be implemented for disabled? - Original Message - From: Kamal Verma kamalve...@pnb.co.in To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 4:32 PM Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister Privilege depends upon the issuers, not on the wish of beneficiaries. - Original Message - From: Subramani L lsubram...@deccanherald.co.in To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 4:34 PM Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister If so why not that be extended to Shatabhdi and Rajdhani as well? Subramani -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kamal Verma Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 1:08 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister Concession ticket is not our right. Its our privilege. Hence we should not demand for any more concession. Thanks. Kamal Verma - Original Message - From: Namita Agarwal namitaagarwa...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 11:44 AM Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister can you add Concessional tickets for rajdhani trains too . reason it consumes lesser time and the train is a little more hygenic .this is for out stationed trains, this is from a ladies or from my point of view. regards namita. On 2/11/10, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote: Well, Nilesh Handicapped, or rather disabled coach, is not connected to general coach, but it is placed adjacent to it. It is not vestibuled to any coach at present. Placing at extremities makes its location uncertain beside rendering it difficult, nay impossible many times to board conveniently due to no overhead shade at the end of platform, and at times, no platform floor extending to cover all coaches. Suggestion of two coaches is most unlikely to be accepted, and so, I maintain the stand that the disabled coach be vestibuled in the approximate middle, Regarding rush, less said better, however, in the middle rush comprises those of traveling in reserved compartments and not those in general so logically it should be less and relatively well behaved. Regards Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create Him. --Arthur C. Clarke (Rajesh Asudani) Assistant General Manager, Reserve Bank of India Nagpur 09420397185 O: 0712 2806676 Res: 0712 2591349 -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of nilesh sonar Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:21 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Draft petition to the railwayMinister hello all I really appreciate this step And find it well drafted I have some more suggestion Many a time the handicap coach is connected to the general coach because of this ordinary person who is in hurry to get in to the train occupy the handicap coach, In such situation it is vary difficult to any disabled person to find a seat or get in to the train. Solution: The handicap coach should not connected to the general coach. I thing there should be two handicap coach one at frontin the first coach and secand at last before Gards coach. I think keeping handicap coach in the middle of the train will cause inconveniency Because during arrival and departure there is to much rush on the platform comparatively it is less at frunt and back side of the train and it is vary easy to find also. from nilesh Mo: 9226448091 On 2/10/10, Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in wrote: Hello All Placed below is the draft petition which we shall be sending to the railway minister. If there is any omission pl let us know by feb 11. Let me clarify, we have only mentioned visually disabled as we believe we should speak for that sectorfor which we are qualified to do so. Otherwise it would be speaking for them and we would be committing the same error for which we find uncomfortable when others tend to do for us the blind. We shall fully support the endeavor from the other segment of the disabled. We shall also include in this petition if it comes from those persons or representative organizations. Pl read on Warmly Harish Kotian Honorable Minister for Railways Respected Madam Accessibility policy in the railway budget On behalf of the blind community and disability community at large, we request you to include an accessibility policy while presenting the forthcoming railway budget. Justification: A large number of disabled passengers avail the services
Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister
can you add Concessional tickets for rajdhani trains too . reason it consumes lesser time and the train is a little more hygenic .this is for out stationed trains, this is from a ladies or from my point of view. regards namita. On 2/11/10, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote: Well, Nilesh Handicapped, or rather disabled coach, is not connected to general coach, but it is placed adjacent to it. It is not vestibuled to any coach at present. Placing at extremities makes its location uncertain beside rendering it difficult, nay impossible many times to board conveniently due to no overhead shade at the end of platform, and at times, no platform floor extending to cover all coaches. Suggestion of two coaches is most unlikely to be accepted, and so, I maintain the stand that the disabled coach be vestibuled in the approximate middle, Regarding rush, less said better, however, in the middle rush comprises those of traveling in reserved compartments and not those in general so logically it should be less and relatively well behaved. Regards Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create Him. --Arthur C. Clarke (Rajesh Asudani) Assistant General Manager, Reserve Bank of India Nagpur 09420397185 O: 0712 2806676 Res: 0712 2591349 -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of nilesh sonar Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:21 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Draft petition to the railwayMinister hello all I really appreciate this step And find it well drafted I have some more suggestion Many a time the handicap coach is connected to the general coach because of this ordinary person who is in hurry to get in to the train occupy the handicap coach, In such situation it is vary difficult to any disabled person to find a seat or get in to the train. Solution: The handicap coach should not connected to the general coach. I thing there should be two handicap coach one at frontin the first coach and secand at last before Gards coach. I think keeping handicap coach in the middle of the train will cause inconveniency Because during arrival and departure there is to much rush on the platform comparatively it is less at frunt and back side of the train and it is vary easy to find also. from nilesh Mo: 9226448091 On 2/10/10, Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in wrote: Hello All Placed below is the draft petition which we shall be sending to the railway minister. If there is any omission pl let us know by feb 11. Let me clarify, we have only mentioned visually disabled as we believe we should speak for that sectorfor which we are qualified to do so. Otherwise it would be speaking for them and we would be committing the same error for which we find uncomfortable when others tend to do for us the blind. We shall fully support the endeavor from the other segment of the disabled. We shall also include in this petition if it comes from those persons or representative organizations. Pl read on Warmly Harish Kotian Honorable Minister for Railways Respected Madam Accessibility policy in the railway budget On behalf of the blind community and disability community at large, we request you to include an accessibility policy while presenting the forthcoming railway budget. Justification: A large number of disabled passengers avail the services of the railways and find the services to be unfriendly and not meeting the minimum accessibility requirements under the law. This has resulted in needless hardship and accidents which could have been easily avoided. This Grimm outlook however, can be reversed with an effective, comprehensive accessibility policy. Scope: It should touch all services rendered by the railways and should not only cover the passengers but should also extend to all disabled employees. We would like the railways to also be the largest equal opportunity employer. Problems faced by blind passengers and solutions: Problem: The ticket clerks often are unwilling to issue concessional tickets despite possessing valid concession certificates. Solution: proper awareness training be imparted and the practice of deducting the differential amount in case of erroneous concession ticket from the salary of the concerned clerk be done away with. Only a penalty be imposed. Problem: Concessional tickets cannot be booked on the online portal. Solution: e booking of concession tickets be introduced either by creating facilities for uploading scanned copy of disability certificate and verifying it during journey, or by requiring one-time registration of all disability certificates in a centralized database at the time of booking first e ticket by a disabled passenger. Problem: Many
Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister
Concession ticket is not our right. Its our privilege. Hence we should not demand for any more concession. Thanks. Kamal Verma - Original Message - From: Namita Agarwal namitaagarwa...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 11:44 AM Subject: Re: [AI] FW: Draft petition to the railwayMinister can you add Concessional tickets for rajdhani trains too . reason it consumes lesser time and the train is a little more hygenic .this is for out stationed trains, this is from a ladies or from my point of view. regards namita. On 2/11/10, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in wrote: Well, Nilesh Handicapped, or rather disabled coach, is not connected to general coach, but it is placed adjacent to it. It is not vestibuled to any coach at present. Placing at extremities makes its location uncertain beside rendering it difficult, nay impossible many times to board conveniently due to no overhead shade at the end of platform, and at times, no platform floor extending to cover all coaches. Suggestion of two coaches is most unlikely to be accepted, and so, I maintain the stand that the disabled coach be vestibuled in the approximate middle, Regarding rush, less said better, however, in the middle rush comprises those of traveling in reserved compartments and not those in general so logically it should be less and relatively well behaved. Regards Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create Him. --Arthur C. Clarke (Rajesh Asudani) Assistant General Manager, Reserve Bank of India Nagpur 09420397185 O: 0712 2806676 Res: 0712 2591349 -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of nilesh sonar Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:21 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Draft petition to the railwayMinister hello all I really appreciate this step And find it well drafted I have some more suggestion Many a time the handicap coach is connected to the general coach because of this ordinary person who is in hurry to get in to the train occupy the handicap coach, In such situation it is vary difficult to any disabled person to find a seat or get in to the train. Solution: The handicap coach should not connected to the general coach. I thing there should be two handicap coach one at frontin the first coach and secand at last before Gards coach. I think keeping handicap coach in the middle of the train will cause inconveniency Because during arrival and departure there is to much rush on the platform comparatively it is less at frunt and back side of the train and it is vary easy to find also. from nilesh Mo: 9226448091 On 2/10/10, Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in wrote: Hello All Placed below is the draft petition which we shall be sending to the railway minister. If there is any omission pl let us know by feb 11. Let me clarify, we have only mentioned visually disabled as we believe we should speak for that sectorfor which we are qualified to do so. Otherwise it would be speaking for them and we would be committing the same error for which we find uncomfortable when others tend to do for us the blind. We shall fully support the endeavor from the other segment of the disabled. We shall also include in this petition if it comes from those persons or representative organizations. Pl read on Warmly Harish Kotian Honorable Minister for Railways Respected Madam Accessibility policy in the railway budget On behalf of the blind community and disability community at large, we request you to include an accessibility policy while presenting the forthcoming railway budget. Justification: A large number of disabled passengers avail the services of the railways and find the services to be unfriendly and not meeting the minimum accessibility requirements under the law. This has resulted in needless hardship and accidents which could have been easily avoided. This Grimm outlook however, can be reversed with an effective, comprehensive accessibility policy. Scope: It should touch all services rendered by the railways and should not only cover the passengers but should also extend to all disabled employees. We would like the railways to also be the largest equal opportunity employer. Problems faced by blind passengers and solutions: Problem: The ticket clerks often are unwilling to issue concessional tickets despite possessing valid concession certificates. Solution: proper awareness training be imparted and the practice of deducting the differential amount in case of erroneous concession ticket from the salary of the concerned clerk be done away with. Only a penalty be imposed. Problem: Concessional tickets cannot be booked on the online portal. Solution: e booking of concession tickets be introduced either by creating facilities
