Re: [AI] Faking Disability: UPSC

2015-11-08 Thread Mohib Anwar Rafay
One eyed man is considered to be only 30% blind. Hence, he will not
get the benefit of the reservation despite of being person with visual
impairment.

On 11/8/15, George Abraham  wrote:
> As far as I know, if one eye has  normal vision, then the person is not
> entitled to be certified as disabled.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of Akash Gupta
> Sent: 07 November 2015 19:40
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] Faking Disability: UPSC
>
> hi kanchan,
> Recently I have come to know that in banking sector many visually
> impaired are working with a certificate of 40 percent disability and
> without any assistance  neither technological nor human. My question
> is that if a candidate has one eye 100 percent blind and second one 6
> by 6 vision, whether  he will be eligible for certificate of 40
> percent disability.
>
> On 06/11/2015, Kanchan Pamnani  wrote:
>> This is great work from Karnataka- verification of the certificates and
>> action against doctors.  I hope this clean up continues
>> On another   note :
>> UPSC gave 14 VI  placements recently. Out of these  only 3 had used
>> writers
>> in their exams.
>> Out of the 11 -2 have been found not to be disabled and will or must have
>> by
>> now lost their placements. 2 others on the waiting list will be given
>> jobs.
>> This was found only after a secondeye test.
>> What about the 9 others -Were they really disabled
>> If you are 40% disabled and you don’t need a writer then do you need the
>> reservation?
>> If I go back to my school exams- I must have always been 50% or more
>> disabled I could have done with extra time. I didn’t need a writer nor
>> would
>> I have needed reservation.
>> Is it not time to lobby out of this 40% disablement for entitlements.
>> When you are told that Mr. X who has a 40% disability has come to the
>> examination centre by driving his own car should you not complain to the
>> authorities. I know that this does not cover the people who are hiding
>> their
>> ability and pretending to be disabled.
>> Kanchan
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>> Behalf
>> Of avinash shahi
>> Sent: 06 November 2015 12:40
>> To: accessindia; jnuvision
>> Subject: [AI] Faking Disability: A third of ‘disabled’ teachers may
>> possess
>> false certificates
>>
>> It worries me as we go ahead in the 21st century. Disability
>> certificate is a prised document which enables non-disabled to
>> outclass disabled people in the job-market. Can we protect the right
>> to employment of hundred per cent blind people in India?
>> http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/bangalore/a-third-of-disabled-teachers-may-possess-false-certificates/article7848431.ece
>>
>> 'Of the estimated 7,000 teachers, at least 2,500 may be using false
>> certificates'.
>>
>> Nearly one-third of all government school teachers who have taken
>> employment under the disability quota may be either faking disability
>> or in possession of false certificates, K.S. Rajanna, State
>> Commissioner for Persons with Disabilities, has claimed.
>>
>> Of the estimated 7,000 teachers, at least 2,500 may be using false
>> certificates, he told reporters on Thursday. “The number of teachers
>> employed under the disability quota (three per cent reservations
>> currently apply) is quite small … Even in this, we suspect based on
>> our examinations so far, that many may have used false certificates to
>> get the job,” he said.
>>
>> In the last financial year, the office of the State Commissioner for
>> Persons with Disabilities had recommended action against 17 teachers
>> for producing false certificates to get jobs in Chintamani taluk of
>> Chickballapur district, while 2013 saw action against a man who had
>> obtained the post of a school principal in Bidar using forged
>> documents.
>>
>> The Commissioner’s office, which has quasi-judicial powers, will now
>> summon all teachers who have been employed under this quota and start
>> the verification process in phases. “We will also find out the
>> government doctor who has given the medical certificate and take
>> action,” he said. Using disabilities or disease as an excuse for
>> either employment or transfers was exposed by The Hindu in August
>> 2014, when 492 teachers were found to have sought transfers as they
>

Re: [AI] Faking Disability: UPSC

2015-11-08 Thread George Abraham
As far as I know, if one eye has  normal vision, then the person is not 
entitled to be certified as disabled.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Akash Gupta
Sent: 07 November 2015 19:40
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Faking Disability: UPSC

hi kanchan,
Recently I have come to know that in banking sector many visually
impaired are working with a certificate of 40 percent disability and
without any assistance  neither technological nor human. My question
is that if a candidate has one eye 100 percent blind and second one 6
by 6 vision, whether  he will be eligible for certificate of 40
percent disability.

On 06/11/2015, Kanchan Pamnani  wrote:
> This is great work from Karnataka- verification of the certificates and
> action against doctors.  I hope this clean up continues
> On another   note :
> UPSC gave 14 VI  placements recently. Out of these  only 3 had used writers
> in their exams.
> Out of the 11 -2 have been found not to be disabled and will or must have by
> now lost their placements. 2 others on the waiting list will be given jobs.
> This was found only after a secondeye test.
> What about the 9 others -Were they really disabled
> If you are 40% disabled and you don’t need a writer then do you need the
> reservation?
> If I go back to my school exams- I must have always been 50% or more
> disabled I could have done with extra time. I didn’t need a writer nor would
> I have needed reservation.
> Is it not time to lobby out of this 40% disablement for entitlements.
> When you are told that Mr. X who has a 40% disability has come to the
> examination centre by driving his own car should you not complain to the
> authorities. I know that this does not cover the people who are hiding their
> ability and pretending to be disabled.
> Kanchan
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of avinash shahi
> Sent: 06 November 2015 12:40
> To: accessindia; jnuvision
> Subject: [AI] Faking Disability: A third of ‘disabled’ teachers may possess
> false certificates
>
> It worries me as we go ahead in the 21st century. Disability
> certificate is a prised document which enables non-disabled to
> outclass disabled people in the job-market. Can we protect the right
> to employment of hundred per cent blind people in India?
> http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/bangalore/a-third-of-disabled-teachers-may-possess-false-certificates/article7848431.ece
>
> 'Of the estimated 7,000 teachers, at least 2,500 may be using false
> certificates'.
>
> Nearly one-third of all government school teachers who have taken
> employment under the disability quota may be either faking disability
> or in possession of false certificates, K.S. Rajanna, State
> Commissioner for Persons with Disabilities, has claimed.
>
> Of the estimated 7,000 teachers, at least 2,500 may be using false
> certificates, he told reporters on Thursday. “The number of teachers
> employed under the disability quota (three per cent reservations
> currently apply) is quite small … Even in this, we suspect based on
> our examinations so far, that many may have used false certificates to
> get the job,” he said.
>
> In the last financial year, the office of the State Commissioner for
> Persons with Disabilities had recommended action against 17 teachers
> for producing false certificates to get jobs in Chintamani taluk of
> Chickballapur district, while 2013 saw action against a man who had
> obtained the post of a school principal in Bidar using forged
> documents.
>
> The Commissioner’s office, which has quasi-judicial powers, will now
> summon all teachers who have been employed under this quota and start
> the verification process in phases. “We will also find out the
> government doctor who has given the medical certificate and take
> action,” he said. Using disabilities or disease as an excuse for
> either employment or transfers was exposed by The Hindu in August
> 2014, when 492 teachers were found to have sought transfers as they
> were “terminally ill”. Thirty of these cases were re-examined, while
> three officials in the Department of Public Instruction were suspended
> for procedural violations
>
>
>
> --
> Avinash Shahi
> Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU
>
>
>
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Re: [AI] Faking Disability: UPSC

2015-11-07 Thread Surya Prakash
No, he can not.

On November 7, 2015 7:39:37 PM GMT+05:30, Akash Gupta  
wrote:
>hi kanchan,
>Recently I have come to know that in banking sector many visually
>impaired are working with a certificate of 40 percent disability and
>without any assistance  neither technological nor human. My question
>is that if a candidate has one eye 100 percent blind and second one 6
>by 6 vision, whether  he will be eligible for certificate of 40
>percent disability.
>
>On 06/11/2015, Kanchan Pamnani  wrote:
>> This is great work from Karnataka- verification of the certificates
>and
>> action against doctors.  I hope this clean up continues
>> On another   note :
>> UPSC gave 14 VI  placements recently. Out of these  only 3 had used
>writers
>> in their exams.
>> Out of the 11 -2 have been found not to be disabled and will or must
>have by
>> now lost their placements. 2 others on the waiting list will be given
>jobs.
>> This was found only after a secondeye test.
>> What about the 9 others -Were they really disabled
>> If you are 40% disabled and you don’t need a writer then do you need
>the
>> reservation?
>> If I go back to my school exams- I must have always been 50% or more
>> disabled I could have done with extra time. I didn’t need a writer
>nor would
>> I have needed reservation.
>> Is it not time to lobby out of this 40% disablement for entitlements.
>> When you are told that Mr. X who has a 40% disability has come to the
>> examination centre by driving his own car should you not complain to
>the
>> authorities. I know that this does not cover the people who are
>hiding their
>> ability and pretending to be disabled.
>> Kanchan
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>Behalf
>> Of avinash shahi
>> Sent: 06 November 2015 12:40
>> To: accessindia; jnuvision
>> Subject: [AI] Faking Disability: A third of ‘disabled’ teachers may
>possess
>> false certificates
>>
>> It worries me as we go ahead in the 21st century. Disability
>> certificate is a prised document which enables non-disabled to
>> outclass disabled people in the job-market. Can we protect the right
>> to employment of hundred per cent blind people in India?
>>
>http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/bangalore/a-third-of-disabled-teachers-may-possess-false-certificates/article7848431.ece
>>
>> 'Of the estimated 7,000 teachers, at least 2,500 may be using false
>> certificates'.
>>
>> Nearly one-third of all government school teachers who have taken
>> employment under the disability quota may be either faking disability
>> or in possession of false certificates, K.S. Rajanna, State
>> Commissioner for Persons with Disabilities, has claimed.
>>
>> Of the estimated 7,000 teachers, at least 2,500 may be using false
>> certificates, he told reporters on Thursday. “The number of teachers
>> employed under the disability quota (three per cent reservations
>> currently apply) is quite small … Even in this, we suspect based on
>> our examinations so far, that many may have used false certificates
>to
>> get the job,” he said.
>>
>> In the last financial year, the office of the State Commissioner for
>> Persons with Disabilities had recommended action against 17 teachers
>> for producing false certificates to get jobs in Chintamani taluk of
>> Chickballapur district, while 2013 saw action against a man who had
>> obtained the post of a school principal in Bidar using forged
>> documents.
>>
>> The Commissioner’s office, which has quasi-judicial powers, will now
>> summon all teachers who have been employed under this quota and start
>> the verification process in phases. “We will also find out the
>> government doctor who has given the medical certificate and take
>> action,” he said. Using disabilities or disease as an excuse for
>> either employment or transfers was exposed by The Hindu in August
>> 2014, when 492 teachers were found to have sought transfers as they
>> were “terminally ill”. Thirty of these cases were re-examined, while
>> three officials in the Department of Public Instruction were
>suspended
>> for procedural violations
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Avinash Shahi
>> Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [AI] Faking Disability: UPSC

2015-11-07 Thread Akash Gupta
hi kanchan,
Recently I have come to know that in banking sector many visually
impaired are working with a certificate of 40 percent disability and
without any assistance  neither technological nor human. My question
is that if a candidate has one eye 100 percent blind and second one 6
by 6 vision, whether  he will be eligible for certificate of 40
percent disability.

On 06/11/2015, Kanchan Pamnani  wrote:
> This is great work from Karnataka- verification of the certificates and
> action against doctors.  I hope this clean up continues
> On another   note :
> UPSC gave 14 VI  placements recently. Out of these  only 3 had used writers
> in their exams.
> Out of the 11 -2 have been found not to be disabled and will or must have by
> now lost their placements. 2 others on the waiting list will be given jobs.
> This was found only after a secondeye test.
> What about the 9 others -Were they really disabled
> If you are 40% disabled and you don’t need a writer then do you need the
> reservation?
> If I go back to my school exams- I must have always been 50% or more
> disabled I could have done with extra time. I didn’t need a writer nor would
> I have needed reservation.
> Is it not time to lobby out of this 40% disablement for entitlements.
> When you are told that Mr. X who has a 40% disability has come to the
> examination centre by driving his own car should you not complain to the
> authorities. I know that this does not cover the people who are hiding their
> ability and pretending to be disabled.
> Kanchan
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of avinash shahi
> Sent: 06 November 2015 12:40
> To: accessindia; jnuvision
> Subject: [AI] Faking Disability: A third of ‘disabled’ teachers may possess
> false certificates
>
> It worries me as we go ahead in the 21st century. Disability
> certificate is a prised document which enables non-disabled to
> outclass disabled people in the job-market. Can we protect the right
> to employment of hundred per cent blind people in India?
> http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/bangalore/a-third-of-disabled-teachers-may-possess-false-certificates/article7848431.ece
>
> 'Of the estimated 7,000 teachers, at least 2,500 may be using false
> certificates'.
>
> Nearly one-third of all government school teachers who have taken
> employment under the disability quota may be either faking disability
> or in possession of false certificates, K.S. Rajanna, State
> Commissioner for Persons with Disabilities, has claimed.
>
> Of the estimated 7,000 teachers, at least 2,500 may be using false
> certificates, he told reporters on Thursday. “The number of teachers
> employed under the disability quota (three per cent reservations
> currently apply) is quite small … Even in this, we suspect based on
> our examinations so far, that many may have used false certificates to
> get the job,” he said.
>
> In the last financial year, the office of the State Commissioner for
> Persons with Disabilities had recommended action against 17 teachers
> for producing false certificates to get jobs in Chintamani taluk of
> Chickballapur district, while 2013 saw action against a man who had
> obtained the post of a school principal in Bidar using forged
> documents.
>
> The Commissioner’s office, which has quasi-judicial powers, will now
> summon all teachers who have been employed under this quota and start
> the verification process in phases. “We will also find out the
> government doctor who has given the medical certificate and take
> action,” he said. Using disabilities or disease as an excuse for
> either employment or transfers was exposed by The Hindu in August
> 2014, when 492 teachers were found to have sought transfers as they
> were “terminally ill”. Thirty of these cases were re-examined, while
> three officials in the Department of Public Instruction were suspended
> for procedural violations
>
>
>
> --
> Avinash Shahi
> Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU
>
>
>
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Re: [AI] Faking Disability: UPSC

2015-11-06 Thread Kanchan Pamnani
This is great work from Karnataka- verification of the certificates and action 
against doctors.  I hope this clean up continues 
On another   note :
UPSC gave 14 VI  placements recently. Out of these  only 3 had used writers in 
their exams. 
Out of the 11 -2 have been found not to be disabled and will or must have by 
now lost their placements. 2 others on the waiting list will be given jobs.
This was found only after a secondeye test. 
What about the 9 others -Were they really disabled
If you are 40% disabled and you don’t need a writer then do you need the 
reservation?
If I go back to my school exams- I must have always been 50% or more disabled I 
could have done with extra time. I didn’t need a writer nor would I have needed 
reservation.
Is it not time to lobby out of this 40% disablement for entitlements.
When you are told that Mr. X who has a 40% disability has come to the 
examination centre by driving his own car should you not complain to the 
authorities. I know that this does not cover the people who are hiding their 
ability and pretending to be disabled. 
Kanchan 

   

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
avinash shahi
Sent: 06 November 2015 12:40
To: accessindia; jnuvision
Subject: [AI] Faking Disability: A third of ‘disabled’ teachers may possess 
false certificates

It worries me as we go ahead in the 21st century. Disability
certificate is a prised document which enables non-disabled to
outclass disabled people in the job-market. Can we protect the right
to employment of hundred per cent blind people in India?
http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/bangalore/a-third-of-disabled-teachers-may-possess-false-certificates/article7848431.ece

'Of the estimated 7,000 teachers, at least 2,500 may be using false
certificates'.

Nearly one-third of all government school teachers who have taken
employment under the disability quota may be either faking disability
or in possession of false certificates, K.S. Rajanna, State
Commissioner for Persons with Disabilities, has claimed.

Of the estimated 7,000 teachers, at least 2,500 may be using false
certificates, he told reporters on Thursday. “The number of teachers
employed under the disability quota (three per cent reservations
currently apply) is quite small … Even in this, we suspect based on
our examinations so far, that many may have used false certificates to
get the job,” he said.

In the last financial year, the office of the State Commissioner for
Persons with Disabilities had recommended action against 17 teachers
for producing false certificates to get jobs in Chintamani taluk of
Chickballapur district, while 2013 saw action against a man who had
obtained the post of a school principal in Bidar using forged
documents.

The Commissioner’s office, which has quasi-judicial powers, will now
summon all teachers who have been employed under this quota and start
the verification process in phases. “We will also find out the
government doctor who has given the medical certificate and take
action,” he said. Using disabilities or disease as an excuse for
either employment or transfers was exposed by The Hindu in August
2014, when 492 teachers were found to have sought transfers as they
were “terminally ill”. Thirty of these cases were re-examined, while
three officials in the Department of Public Instruction were suspended
for procedural violations



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