Re: [AI] Fw: Recruitment of v.h. by Maharashtra Govt. a deception.
Dear Pamnani, Sorry for the delay in replying to your Mail. I am working in NAB Workshop for the Blind as Instructtor in-charge Stenography Section for last 15 years or so. My interest in raising this topic at Accessindia was only to help my trainees. I will try to get more accurate data in this regard from my trainees as soon as they return from Divali vacation. Thank you for the concern and dedication with which you have taken up the matter. I am sure we will certainly succeed. Sincerely, C. B. Kulkarni. --- pamnani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sorry Please substantiate. > Now that we are in court. This kind of information > will not do. Please tell > me in detail. Are you trying for a job have you been > refused on this ground > and for which interview. > Are you willing to give dates, time on oath. > Unless you can prove it there is no point in > shouting from outside. > Call me or write to me directly if you have anything > substantial. > I know the general scene but the courts need to be > given details. Sorry for > sounding so cold but now emotions are out and cold > facts are in. > Kanchan > - Original Message - > From: "chandrashekhar kulkarni" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 19:39 > Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: Recruitment of v.h. by > Maharashtra Govt. a deception. > > > > Friends, > > I would like to appoint out that the jobs of > Stenographer and Typists are > > identified for all V.H. including totally blind. > Even Central Govt. > > through Staff Commission Committee recruits many > totally blind persons on > > these posts. However, Maharashtra Govt. is trying > to deny the ability of > > totally blind persons and the interviewers tell > the candidates the 1995 > > disability act and job identification reserves > these jobs only partially > > sighted pesons. The candidates in places are asked > to read and write > > normal print even after knowing the candidate is > totally blind person. > > Isn't it a deception? > > Sincerely, > > C. B. Kulkarni. > > > > rajesh asudani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > hello Kanchan > > > > Point no. 1 about non-objection and undue lapse of > time is okay, however, > > merely lapse of time can not, and may not, make an > arbitrary act lawful, > > and > > in my opinion, we should bring it to the notice of > courts irrespective of > > the consequences. > > > > Please let me know about advertisements for > totally blind, as many of my > > totally blind friends are desperately searching > for jobs. Do inform if we > > can find all the ads being issued anywhere online, > as manual search of so > > many publications in print is a tough task, given > the fact that majority > > of > > them are in marathi. Site of ESE maharashtra shows > the link about the > > disabled as "under construction". > > I will keep in touch about progress of the matter. > > > > Regards > > > > Rajesh > > - Original Message - > > From: "Pamnani" > > > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 11:58 PM > > Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: Recruitment of v.h. by > Maharashtra Govt. a > > deception. > > > > > >> Rajesh, > >> > >> 1. The jobs have been identified for the last 2 > years at least for the > >> partially sighted and no one has brought this > point up. > >> 2. also the National Federation of the Blind has > filed this PIL in 2003 > > and > >> the matters have been coming up for the last 3 > years fairly regularly. NF > > B > >> has not objected therefore the Courts are going > to get mad now. We should > >> have challenged this category when it was first > realised. Now we are > >> going > >> to have to turn back the clock and all the work > done. > >> > >> 3. I am not sure that only the jobs for the > partially sighted are being > >> advertised. I have seen about 20 recent > advertisements. The jobs > > identified > >> for the totally blind are also advertised. If you > have another opinion > >> please help me by pointing out which particular > one. > >> > >> If you find any other problems please let me know > and I will be able to > > take > >> it up now that I am involved. > >> Regards > >> Kanchan Pamnani > >> Advocate & Solicitor > >> 9, Suleman Chambers, > >> Battery Street, Colaba, > >> Mumbai - 400 039. > >
Re: [AI] Fw: Recruitment of v.h. by Maharashtra Govt. a deception.
Sorry Please substantiate. Now that we are in court. This kind of information will not do. Please tell me in detail. Are you trying for a job have you been refused on this ground and for which interview. Are you willing to give dates, time on oath. Unless you can prove it there is no point in shouting from outside. Call me or write to me directly if you have anything substantial. I know the general scene but the courts need to be given details. Sorry for sounding so cold but now emotions are out and cold facts are in. Kanchan - Original Message - From: "chandrashekhar kulkarni" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 19:39 Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: Recruitment of v.h. by Maharashtra Govt. a deception. > Friends, > I would like to appoint out that the jobs of Stenographer and Typists are > identified for all V.H. including totally blind. Even Central Govt. > through Staff Commission Committee recruits many totally blind persons on > these posts. However, Maharashtra Govt. is trying to deny the ability of > totally blind persons and the interviewers tell the candidates the 1995 > disability act and job identification reserves these jobs only partially > sighted pesons. The candidates in places are asked to read and write > normal print even after knowing the candidate is totally blind person. > Isn't it a deception? > Sincerely, > C. B. Kulkarni. > > rajesh asudani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hello Kanchan > > Point no. 1 about non-objection and undue lapse of time is okay, however, > merely lapse of time can not, and may not, make an arbitrary act lawful, > and > in my opinion, we should bring it to the notice of courts irrespective of > the consequences. > > Please let me know about advertisements for totally blind, as many of my > totally blind friends are desperately searching for jobs. Do inform if we > can find all the ads being issued anywhere online, as manual search of so > many publications in print is a tough task, given the fact that majority > of > them are in marathi. Site of ESE maharashtra shows the link about the > disabled as "under construction". > I will keep in touch about progress of the matter. > > Regards > > Rajesh > ----- Original Message - > From: "Pamnani" > > To: > Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 11:58 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: Recruitment of v.h. by Maharashtra Govt. a > deception. > > >> Rajesh, >> >> 1. The jobs have been identified for the last 2 years at least for the >> partially sighted and no one has brought this point up. >> 2. also the National Federation of the Blind has filed this PIL in 2003 > and >> the matters have been coming up for the last 3 years fairly regularly. NF > B >> has not objected therefore the Courts are going to get mad now. We should >> have challenged this category when it was first realised. Now we are >> going >> to have to turn back the clock and all the work done. >> >> 3. I am not sure that only the jobs for the partially sighted are being >> advertised. I have seen about 20 recent advertisements. The jobs > identified >> for the totally blind are also advertised. If you have another opinion >> please help me by pointing out which particular one. >> >> If you find any other problems please let me know and I will be able to > take >> it up now that I am involved. >> Regards >> Kanchan Pamnani >> Advocate & Solicitor >> 9, Suleman Chambers, >> Battery Street, Colaba, >> Mumbai - 400 039. >> >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "rajesh asudani" >> To: >> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 11:44 PM >> Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: Recruitment of v.h. by Maharashtra Govt. a > deception. >> >> >> > Also baffling is the question as to how come most--almost all--backlog >> > vacancies being advertised are precisely those identified for partially >> > sighted? >> > >> > Rajesh. >> > - Original Message - >> > From: "rajesh asudani" >> > To: "pamnani" > ; >> > Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 10:13 AM >> > Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: Recruitment of v.h. by Maharashtra Govt. a >> > deception. >> > >> > >> >> Thank you for a detailed briefing on what has been taking place. > However, >> > I >> >> wish to submit that creation of the third category of partially blind > in >> >> addition to the two mentioned in PWD act, is arbitrary and goes >> >> against >> > the >> >> laid down sta
Re: [AI] Fw: Recruitment of v.h. by Maharashtra Govt. a deception.
yes. it is wrong, illegal, fraude, mischief, malafide and what not. keep the job identification list handy and show record that it is available to totally blind also. point out such malafied practices of putting to reading and hand writing test knowing fully well the extent of disability. regards - Original Message - From: "chandrashekhar kulkarni" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 07:39 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: Recruitment of v.h. by Maharashtra Govt. a deception. > Friends, > I would like to appoint out that the jobs of Stenographer and Typists are > identified for all V.H. including totally blind. Even Central Govt. > through Staff Commission Committee recruits many totally blind persons on > these posts. However, Maharashtra Govt. is trying to deny the ability of > totally blind persons and the interviewers tell the candidates the 1995 > disability act and job identification reserves these jobs only partially > sighted pesons. The candidates in places are asked to read and write > normal print even after knowing the candidate is totally blind person. > Isn't it a deception? > Sincerely, > C. B. Kulkarni. > > rajesh asudani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hello Kanchan > > Point no. 1 about non-objection and undue lapse of time is okay, however, > merely lapse of time can not, and may not, make an arbitrary act lawful, > and > in my opinion, we should bring it to the notice of courts irrespective of > the consequences. > > Please let me know about advertisements for totally blind, as many of my > totally blind friends are desperately searching for jobs. Do inform if we > can find all the ads being issued anywhere online, as manual search of so > many publications in print is a tough task, given the fact that majority > of > them are in marathi. Site of ESE maharashtra shows the link about the > disabled as "under construction". > I will keep in touch about progress of the matter. > > Regards > > Rajesh > ----- Original Message - > From: "Pamnani" > > To: > Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 11:58 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: Recruitment of v.h. by Maharashtra Govt. a > deception. > > >> Rajesh, >> >> 1. The jobs have been identified for the last 2 years at least for the >> partially sighted and no one has brought this point up. >> 2. also the National Federation of the Blind has filed this PIL in 2003 > and >> the matters have been coming up for the last 3 years fairly regularly. NF > B >> has not objected therefore the Courts are going to get mad now. We should >> have challenged this category when it was first realised. Now we are >> going >> to have to turn back the clock and all the work done. >> >> 3. I am not sure that only the jobs for the partially sighted are being >> advertised. I have seen about 20 recent advertisements. The jobs > identified >> for the totally blind are also advertised. If you have another opinion >> please help me by pointing out which particular one. >> >> If you find any other problems please let me know and I will be able to > take >> it up now that I am involved. >> Regards >> Kanchan Pamnani >> Advocate & Solicitor >> 9, Suleman Chambers, >> Battery Street, Colaba, >> Mumbai - 400 039. >> >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "rajesh asudani" >> To: >> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 11:44 PM >> Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: Recruitment of v.h. by Maharashtra Govt. a > deception. >> >> >> > Also baffling is the question as to how come most--almost all--backlog >> > vacancies being advertised are precisely those identified for partially >> > sighted? >> > >> > Rajesh. >> > - Original Message - >> > From: "rajesh asudani" >> > To: "pamnani" > ; >> > Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 10:13 AM >> > Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: Recruitment of v.h. by Maharashtra Govt. a >> > deception. >> > >> > >> >> Thank you for a detailed briefing on what has been taking place. > However, >> > I >> >> wish to submit that creation of the third category of partially blind > in >> >> addition to the two mentioned in PWD act, is arbitrary and goes >> >> against >> > the >> >> laid down statutes, and hence, any identification for the said new >> > category >> >> and consequent filling up of vacancies for them also militates against >> >> the >> >> rule of law. Had the
Re: [AI] Fw: Recruitment of v.h. by Maharashtra Govt. a deception.
Friends, I would like to appoint out that the jobs of Stenographer and Typists are identified for all V.H. including totally blind. Even Central Govt. through Staff Commission Committee recruits many totally blind persons on these posts. However, Maharashtra Govt. is trying to deny the ability of totally blind persons and the interviewers tell the candidates the 1995 disability act and job identification reserves these jobs only partially sighted pesons. The candidates in places are asked to read and write normal print even after knowing the candidate is totally blind person. Isn't it a deception? Sincerely, C. B. Kulkarni. rajesh asudani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: hello Kanchan Point no. 1 about non-objection and undue lapse of time is okay, however, merely lapse of time can not, and may not, make an arbitrary act lawful, and in my opinion, we should bring it to the notice of courts irrespective of the consequences. Please let me know about advertisements for totally blind, as many of my totally blind friends are desperately searching for jobs. Do inform if we can find all the ads being issued anywhere online, as manual search of so many publications in print is a tough task, given the fact that majority of them are in marathi. Site of ESE maharashtra shows the link about the disabled as "under construction". I will keep in touch about progress of the matter. Regards Rajesh - Original Message - From: "Pamnani" To: Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 11:58 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: Recruitment of v.h. by Maharashtra Govt. a deception. > Rajesh, > > 1. The jobs have been identified for the last 2 years at least for the > partially sighted and no one has brought this point up. > 2. also the National Federation of the Blind has filed this PIL in 2003 and > the matters have been coming up for the last 3 years fairly regularly. NF B > has not objected therefore the Courts are going to get mad now. We should > have challenged this category when it was first realised. Now we are going > to have to turn back the clock and all the work done. > > 3. I am not sure that only the jobs for the partially sighted are being > advertised. I have seen about 20 recent advertisements. The jobs identified > for the totally blind are also advertised. If you have another opinion > please help me by pointing out which particular one. > > If you find any other problems please let me know and I will be able to take > it up now that I am involved. > Regards > Kanchan Pamnani > Advocate & Solicitor > 9, Suleman Chambers, > Battery Street, Colaba, > Mumbai - 400 039. > > > > - Original Message ----- > From: "rajesh asudani" > To: > Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 11:44 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: Recruitment of v.h. by Maharashtra Govt. a deception. > > > > Also baffling is the question as to how come most--almost all--backlog > > vacancies being advertised are precisely those identified for partially > > sighted? > > > > Rajesh. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "rajesh asudani" > > To: "pamnani" ; > > Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 10:13 AM > > Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: Recruitment of v.h. by Maharashtra Govt. a > > deception. > > > > > >> Thank you for a detailed briefing on what has been taking place. However, > > I > >> wish to submit that creation of the third category of partially blind in > >> addition to the two mentioned in PWD act, is arbitrary and goes against > > the > >> laid down statutes, and hence, any identification for the said new > > category > >> and consequent filling up of vacancies for them also militates against > >> the > >> rule of law. Had the said category not been created in the first place > >> and > >> had the identification of jobs remained confined to the categories of > > blind > >> and low vision, certainly more posts would have been available for the > >> blind. Given the proposition that persons with higher disability should > >> be > >> given preference, the lot of the totally blind aspirants would have been > >> much better. I do not contend that people with partial sight do not > >> exist, > >> however statutorily they have to belong either to totally blind or low > >> vision category. > >> > >> All said and done, I am also aware that life of law [and also that of > > legal > >> courts and judgments] is not governed by logic but experience. As once > >> one > >> famous legal luminary put it: "We are under the Constitution, but > >> Constitution is what the judge says it is!&
Re: [AI] Fw: Recruitment of v.h. by Maharashtra Govt. a deception.
go to maharastra.gov.in there are p d f files to that effect On 10/20/06, rajesh asudani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > hello Kanchan > > Point no. 1 about non-objection and undue lapse of time is okay, however, > merely lapse of time can not, and may not, make an arbitrary act lawful, > and > in my opinion, we should bring it to the notice of courts irrespective of > the consequences. > > Please let me know about advertisements for totally blind, as many of my > totally blind friends are desperately searching for jobs. Do inform if we > can find all the ads being issued anywhere online, as manual search of so > many publications in print is a tough task, given the fact that majority > of > them are in marathi. Site of ESE maharashtra shows the link about the > disabled as "under construction". > I will keep in touch about progress of the matter. > > Regards > > Rajesh > - Original Message - > From: "Pamnani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 11:58 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: Recruitment of v.h. by Maharashtra Govt. a > deception. > > > > Rajesh, > > > > 1. The jobs have been identified for the last 2 years at least for the > > partially sighted and no one has brought this point up. > > 2. also the National Federation of the Blind has filed this PIL in 2003 > and > > the matters have been coming up for the last 3 years fairly regularly. > NF > B > > has not objected therefore the Courts are going to get mad now. We > should > > have challenged this category when it was first realised. Now we are > going > > to have to turn back the clock and all the work done. > > > > 3. I am not sure that only the jobs for the partially sighted are being > > advertised. I have seen about 20 recent advertisements. The jobs > identified > > for the totally blind are also advertised. If you have another opinion > > please help me by pointing out which particular one. > > > > If you find any other problems please let me know and I will be able to > take > > it up now that I am involved. > >Regards > > Kanchan Pamnani > > Advocate & Solicitor > > 9, Suleman Chambers, > > Battery Street, Colaba, > > Mumbai - 400 039. > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "rajesh asudani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: > > Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 11:44 PM > > Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: Recruitment of v.h. by Maharashtra Govt. a > deception. > > > > > > > Also baffling is the question as to how come most--almost > all--backlog > > > vacancies being advertised are precisely those identified for > partially > > > sighted? > > > > > > Rajesh. > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "rajesh asudani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: "pamnani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > > > Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 10:13 AM > > > Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: Recruitment of v.h. by Maharashtra Govt. a > > > deception. > > > > > > > > >> Thank you for a detailed briefing on what has been taking place. > However, > > > I > > >> wish to submit that creation of the third category of partially blind > in > > >> addition to the two mentioned in PWD act, is arbitrary and goes > against > > > the > > >> laid down statutes, and hence, any identification for the said new > > > category > > >> and consequent filling up of vacancies for them also militates > against > > >> the > > >> rule of law. Had the said category not been created in the first > place > > >> and > > >> had the identification of jobs remained confined to the categories of > > > blind > > >> and low vision, certainly more posts would have been available for > the > > >> blind. Given the proposition that persons with higher disability > should > > >> be > > >> given preference, the lot of the totally blind aspirants would have > been > > >> much better. I do not contend that people with partial sight do not > > >> exist, > > >> however statutorily they have to belong either to totally blind or > low > > >> vision category. > > >> > > >> All said and done, I am also aware that life of law [and also that of > > > legal > > >> courts and judgments] is not governed by logic but experience. As > once > > >> one > > &
Re: [AI] Fw: Recruitment of v.h. by Maharashtra Govt. a deception.
point is that if totally blind apply to partially blind or deaf apply to post reserved for partially deaf then it is rejected even tho no suitable candidate found and they do not apply relaxation of standards it is totally meaningless as partially blind and partially deaf not mentioned in p w d act or that certificate to that effect can be fraudulently obtained On 10/19/06, Pamnani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Rajesh, > > 1. The jobs have been identified for the last 2 years at least for the > partially sighted and no one has brought this point up. > 2. also the National Federation of the Blind has filed this PIL in 2003 > and > the matters have been coming up for the last 3 years fairly regularly. NF > B > has not objected therefore the Courts are going to get mad now. We should > have challenged this category when it was first realised. Now we are going > to have to turn back the clock and all the work done. > > 3. I am not sure that only the jobs for the partially sighted are being > advertised. I have seen about 20 recent advertisements. The jobs > identified > for the totally blind are also advertised. If you have another opinion > please help me by pointing out which particular one. > > If you find any other problems please let me know and I will be able to > take > it up now that I am involved. >Regards > Kanchan Pamnani > Advocate & Solicitor > 9, Suleman Chambers, > Battery Street, Colaba, > Mumbai - 400 039. > > > > - Original Message - > From: "rajesh asudani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 11:44 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: Recruitment of v.h. by Maharashtra Govt. a > deception. > > > > Also baffling is the question as to how come most--almost all--backlog > > vacancies being advertised are precisely those identified for partially > > sighted? > > > > Rajesh. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "rajesh asudani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "pamnani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > > Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 10:13 AM > > Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: Recruitment of v.h. by Maharashtra Govt. a > > deception. > > > > > >> Thank you for a detailed briefing on what has been taking place. > However, > > I > >> wish to submit that creation of the third category of partially blind > in > >> addition to the two mentioned in PWD act, is arbitrary and goes against > > the > >> laid down statutes, and hence, any identification for the said new > > category > >> and consequent filling up of vacancies for them also militates against > >> the > >> rule of law. Had the said category not been created in the first place > >> and > >> had the identification of jobs remained confined to the categories of > > blind > >> and low vision, certainly more posts would have been available for the > >> blind. Given the proposition that persons with higher disability should > >> be > >> given preference, the lot of the totally blind aspirants would have > been > >> much better. I do not contend that people with partial sight do not > >> exist, > >> however statutorily they have to belong either to totally blind or low > >> vision category. > >> > >> All said and done, I am also aware that life of law [and also that of > > legal > >> courts and judgments] is not governed by logic but experience. As once > >> one > >> famous legal luminary put it: "We are under the Constitution, but > >> Constitution is what the judge says it is!" > >> > >> Regards > >> > >> Rajesh. > >> - Original Message - > >> From: "pamnani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: > >> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 7:30 PM > >> Subject: [AI] Fw: Recruitment of v.h. by Maharashtra Govt. a deception. > >> > >> > >> > > >> > - Original Message - > >> > From: "pamnani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > To: "Keshav Kumar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 07:30 > >> > Subject: Re: [AI] Recruitment of v.h. by Maharashtra Govt. a > deception. > >> > > >> > > >> > > Let me explain this matter in detail > >> > > In 2002 ILS a law college in Pune filed a public interest > litigation > >> > > against the Maharashtra Government for implementation of the PWD > Act. > >> this > >>
Re: [AI] Fw: Recruitment of v.h. by Maharashtra Govt. a deception.
hello Kanchan Point no. 1 about non-objection and undue lapse of time is okay, however, merely lapse of time can not, and may not, make an arbitrary act lawful, and in my opinion, we should bring it to the notice of courts irrespective of the consequences. Please let me know about advertisements for totally blind, as many of my totally blind friends are desperately searching for jobs. Do inform if we can find all the ads being issued anywhere online, as manual search of so many publications in print is a tough task, given the fact that majority of them are in marathi. Site of ESE maharashtra shows the link about the disabled as "under construction". I will keep in touch about progress of the matter. Regards Rajesh - Original Message - From: "Pamnani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 11:58 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: Recruitment of v.h. by Maharashtra Govt. a deception. > Rajesh, > > 1. The jobs have been identified for the last 2 years at least for the > partially sighted and no one has brought this point up. > 2. also the National Federation of the Blind has filed this PIL in 2003 and > the matters have been coming up for the last 3 years fairly regularly. NF B > has not objected therefore the Courts are going to get mad now. We should > have challenged this category when it was first realised. Now we are going > to have to turn back the clock and all the work done. > > 3. I am not sure that only the jobs for the partially sighted are being > advertised. I have seen about 20 recent advertisements. The jobs identified > for the totally blind are also advertised. If you have another opinion > please help me by pointing out which particular one. > > If you find any other problems please let me know and I will be able to take > it up now that I am involved. >Regards > Kanchan Pamnani > Advocate & Solicitor > 9, Suleman Chambers, > Battery Street, Colaba, > Mumbai - 400 039. > > > > - Original Message - > From: "rajesh asudani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 11:44 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: Recruitment of v.h. by Maharashtra Govt. a deception. > > > > Also baffling is the question as to how come most--almost all--backlog > > vacancies being advertised are precisely those identified for partially > > sighted? > > > > Rajesh. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "rajesh asudani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "pamnani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > > Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 10:13 AM > > Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: Recruitment of v.h. by Maharashtra Govt. a > > deception. > > > > > >> Thank you for a detailed briefing on what has been taking place. However, > > I > >> wish to submit that creation of the third category of partially blind in > >> addition to the two mentioned in PWD act, is arbitrary and goes against > > the > >> laid down statutes, and hence, any identification for the said new > > category > >> and consequent filling up of vacancies for them also militates against > >> the > >> rule of law. Had the said category not been created in the first place > >> and > >> had the identification of jobs remained confined to the categories of > > blind > >> and low vision, certainly more posts would have been available for the > >> blind. Given the proposition that persons with higher disability should > >> be > >> given preference, the lot of the totally blind aspirants would have been > >> much better. I do not contend that people with partial sight do not > >> exist, > >> however statutorily they have to belong either to totally blind or low > >> vision category. > >> > >> All said and done, I am also aware that life of law [and also that of > > legal > >> courts and judgments] is not governed by logic but experience. As once > >> one > >> famous legal luminary put it: "We are under the Constitution, but > >> Constitution is what the judge says it is!" > >> > >> Regards > >> > >> Rajesh. > >> - Original Message - > >> From: "pamnani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: > >> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 7:30 PM > >> Subject: [AI] Fw: Recruitment of v.h. by Maharashtra Govt. a deception. > >> > >> > >> > > >> > - Original Message - > >> > From: "pamnani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > To: "Keshav Kumar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>
Re: [AI] Fw: Recruitment of v.h. by Maharashtra Govt. a deception.
Rajesh, 1. The jobs have been identified for the last 2 years at least for the partially sighted and no one has brought this point up. 2. also the National Federation of the Blind has filed this PIL in 2003 and the matters have been coming up for the last 3 years fairly regularly. NF B has not objected therefore the Courts are going to get mad now. We should have challenged this category when it was first realised. Now we are going to have to turn back the clock and all the work done. 3. I am not sure that only the jobs for the partially sighted are being advertised. I have seen about 20 recent advertisements. The jobs identified for the totally blind are also advertised. If you have another opinion please help me by pointing out which particular one. If you find any other problems please let me know and I will be able to take it up now that I am involved. Regards Kanchan Pamnani Advocate & Solicitor 9, Suleman Chambers, Battery Street, Colaba, Mumbai - 400 039. - Original Message - From: "rajesh asudani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 11:44 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: Recruitment of v.h. by Maharashtra Govt. a deception. > Also baffling is the question as to how come most--almost all--backlog > vacancies being advertised are precisely those identified for partially > sighted? > > Rajesh. > - Original Message - > From: "rajesh asudani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "pamnani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 10:13 AM > Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: Recruitment of v.h. by Maharashtra Govt. a > deception. > > >> Thank you for a detailed briefing on what has been taking place. However, > I >> wish to submit that creation of the third category of partially blind in >> addition to the two mentioned in PWD act, is arbitrary and goes against > the >> laid down statutes, and hence, any identification for the said new > category >> and consequent filling up of vacancies for them also militates against >> the >> rule of law. Had the said category not been created in the first place >> and >> had the identification of jobs remained confined to the categories of > blind >> and low vision, certainly more posts would have been available for the >> blind. Given the proposition that persons with higher disability should >> be >> given preference, the lot of the totally blind aspirants would have been >> much better. I do not contend that people with partial sight do not >> exist, >> however statutorily they have to belong either to totally blind or low >> vision category. >> >> All said and done, I am also aware that life of law [and also that of > legal >> courts and judgments] is not governed by logic but experience. As once >> one >> famous legal luminary put it: "We are under the Constitution, but >> Constitution is what the judge says it is!" >> >> Regards >> >> Rajesh. >> - Original Message - >> From: "pamnani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: >> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 7:30 PM >> Subject: [AI] Fw: Recruitment of v.h. by Maharashtra Govt. a deception. >> >> >> > >> > - Original Message - >> > From: "pamnani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > To: "Keshav Kumar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 07:30 >> > Subject: Re: [AI] Recruitment of v.h. by Maharashtra Govt. a deception. >> > >> > >> > > Let me explain this matter in detail >> > > In 2002 ILS a law college in Pune filed a public interest litigation >> > > against the Maharashtra Government for implementation of the PWD Act. >> this >> > > Petition is numbered as 70 of 2002. In pursuance of this Petition we > got >> > > Low floor buses etc. This is an all inclusive Petition. >> > > Subsequently the National Federation of the Blind, Maharshtra Unit > filed >> > > Petition No. 129 of 2003 for identification of jobs for the blind >> > > etc. >> > > Both these Petitions have been heard together so there are concurrent >> > > orders in both these matters. >> > > I will now explain what has been happening on the issue of jobs for > the >> > > visually impaired. >> > > Over the last 3 years various departments of the Maharshtra >> > > Government >> > > have been identifying jobs for the disabled.There are about 17 such >> lists >> > > and there matching Government Resolutions. While identifying the jobs >> and &g
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Also baffling is the question as to how come most--almost all--backlog vacancies being advertised are precisely those identified for partially sighted? Rajesh. - Original Message - From: "rajesh asudani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "pamnani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 10:13 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Fw: Recruitment of v.h. by Maharashtra Govt. a deception. > Thank you for a detailed briefing on what has been taking place. However, I > wish to submit that creation of the third category of partially blind in > addition to the two mentioned in PWD act, is arbitrary and goes against the > laid down statutes, and hence, any identification for the said new category > and consequent filling up of vacancies for them also militates against the > rule of law. Had the said category not been created in the first place and > had the identification of jobs remained confined to the categories of blind > and low vision, certainly more posts would have been available for the > blind. Given the proposition that persons with higher disability should be > given preference, the lot of the totally blind aspirants would have been > much better. I do not contend that people with partial sight do not exist, > however statutorily they have to belong either to totally blind or low > vision category. > > All said and done, I am also aware that life of law [and also that of legal > courts and judgments] is not governed by logic but experience. As once one > famous legal luminary put it: "We are under the Constitution, but > Constitution is what the judge says it is!" > > Regards > > Rajesh. > - Original Message ----- > From: "pamnani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 7:30 PM > Subject: [AI] Fw: Recruitment of v.h. by Maharashtra Govt. a deception. > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "pamnani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Keshav Kumar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 07:30 > > Subject: Re: [AI] Recruitment of v.h. by Maharashtra Govt. a deception. > > > > > > > Let me explain this matter in detail > > > In 2002 ILS a law college in Pune filed a public interest litigation > > > against the Maharashtra Government for implementation of the PWD Act. > this > > > Petition is numbered as 70 of 2002. In pursuance of this Petition we got > > > Low floor buses etc. This is an all inclusive Petition. > > > Subsequently the National Federation of the Blind, Maharshtra Unit filed > > > Petition No. 129 of 2003 for identification of jobs for the blind etc. > > > Both these Petitions have been heard together so there are concurrent > > > orders in both these matters. > > > I will now explain what has been happening on the issue of jobs for the > > > visually impaired. > > > Over the last 3 years various departments of the Maharshtra Government > > > have been identifying jobs for the disabled.There are about 17 such > lists > > > and there matching Government Resolutions. While identifying the jobs > and > > > creating these lists an additional category was created named"Partially > > > Sighted" within the broad category of visually impaired. So what started > > > happening was that the departments started identifying jobs for the > > > totally blind, low vision, partially sighted. Obviously more jobs were > > > available for the Partially sighted as compared to those for the blind. > > > However after looking at nearly all those 17 lists I find that about 17 > > > jobs have been identified for the blind. This is nearly the same as > those > > > in the Central list. Therefore for the limited issue and for the time > > > being I am going to say the identification process is OK. I will come > back > > > to this issue later. > > > However the creating of a 3rd category in the 1% for the visually > impaired > > > is a problem. > > > Now for the next step the Maharashtra Government did not fill up these > > > jobs so the Court hadd to intervene. On 7 September 2006 Court ordered > > > stay of all other recruitments until the disabled backlog was completed > > > and the process should be completed in 3 months. The Petitions are still > > > alive and the matters keep coming up on Board for hearing. The > government > > > started issuing advertisements for walk in interviews and for written > > > applications. Now it has come as a big shock that most of the posts > being > > > advertised are for the
Re: [AI] Fw: Recruitment of v.h. by Maharashtra Govt. a deception.
Thank you for a detailed briefing on what has been taking place. However, I wish to submit that creation of the third category of partially blind in addition to the two mentioned in PWD act, is arbitrary and goes against the laid down statutes, and hence, any identification for the said new category and consequent filling up of vacancies for them also militates against the rule of law. Had the said category not been created in the first place and had the identification of jobs remained confined to the categories of blind and low vision, certainly more posts would have been available for the blind. Given the proposition that persons with higher disability should be given preference, the lot of the totally blind aspirants would have been much better. I do not contend that people with partial sight do not exist, however statutorily they have to belong either to totally blind or low vision category. All said and done, I am also aware that life of law [and also that of legal courts and judgments] is not governed by logic but experience. As once one famous legal luminary put it: "We are under the Constitution, but Constitution is what the judge says it is!" Regards Rajesh. - Original Message - From: "pamnani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 7:30 PM Subject: [AI] Fw: Recruitment of v.h. by Maharashtra Govt. a deception. > > - Original Message - > From: "pamnani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Keshav Kumar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 07:30 > Subject: Re: [AI] Recruitment of v.h. by Maharashtra Govt. a deception. > > > > Let me explain this matter in detail > > In 2002 ILS a law college in Pune filed a public interest litigation > > against the Maharashtra Government for implementation of the PWD Act. this > > Petition is numbered as 70 of 2002. In pursuance of this Petition we got > > Low floor buses etc. This is an all inclusive Petition. > > Subsequently the National Federation of the Blind, Maharshtra Unit filed > > Petition No. 129 of 2003 for identification of jobs for the blind etc. > > Both these Petitions have been heard together so there are concurrent > > orders in both these matters. > > I will now explain what has been happening on the issue of jobs for the > > visually impaired. > > Over the last 3 years various departments of the Maharshtra Government > > have been identifying jobs for the disabled.There are about 17 such lists > > and there matching Government Resolutions. While identifying the jobs and > > creating these lists an additional category was created named"Partially > > Sighted" within the broad category of visually impaired. So what started > > happening was that the departments started identifying jobs for the > > totally blind, low vision, partially sighted. Obviously more jobs were > > available for the Partially sighted as compared to those for the blind. > > However after looking at nearly all those 17 lists I find that about 17 > > jobs have been identified for the blind. This is nearly the same as those > > in the Central list. Therefore for the limited issue and for the time > > being I am going to say the identification process is OK. I will come back > > to this issue later. > > However the creating of a 3rd category in the 1% for the visually impaired > > is a problem. > > Now for the next step the Maharashtra Government did not fill up these > > jobs so the Court hadd to intervene. On 7 September 2006 Court ordered > > stay of all other recruitments until the disabled backlog was completed > > and the process should be completed in 3 months. The Petitions are still > > alive and the matters keep coming up on Board for hearing. The government > > started issuing advertisements for walk in interviews and for written > > applications. Now it has come as a big shock that most of the posts being > > advertised are for the partially sighted and not for the blind or the low > > visioned. > > The problem is that the advertisements are more or less in line with the > > jobs identified over the years so the advertisements are really not bad in > > law in most cases. > > Some totally blind friends approached me and I have filed an intervention > > application in Petition No. 129 of 2003challenging some of the > > advertisements which are not in line with the identified jobs and also > > challenged the creation of Partially Sighted category. > > the matter was on board yesterday however it did not reach but we > > mentioned it at 3 pm but the Court said" we can remedy any wrong being > > done, come back after the vacations". So here we are
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Hi pamnani, thankyou for the detail information please place the copies of the relevant orders in your next mail so that i can take up the matter with the Karnataka government and try to solve the problems visually impaired in our state in my capisity of capasity of the president of Bharatiya welfare association for the blind regards dattu agarwal. e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] mobile 9886678744 pamnani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: - Original Message - From: "pamnani" To: "Keshav Kumar" Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 07:30 Subject: Re: [AI] Recruitment of v.h. by Maharashtra Govt. a deception. > Let me explain this matter in detail > In 2002 ILS a law college in Pune filed a public interest litigation > against the Maharashtra Government for implementation of the PWD Act. this > Petition is numbered as 70 of 2002. In pursuance of this Petition we got > Low floor buses etc. This is an all inclusive Petition. > Subsequently the National Federation of the Blind, Maharshtra Unit filed > Petition No. 129 of 2003 for identification of jobs for the blind etc. > Both these Petitions have been heard together so there are concurrent > orders in both these matters. > I will now explain what has been happening on the issue of jobs for the > visually impaired. > Over the last 3 years various departments of the Maharshtra Government > have been identifying jobs for the disabled.There are about 17 such lists > and there matching Government Resolutions. While identifying the jobs and > creating these lists an additional category was created named"Partially > Sighted" within the broad category of visually impaired. So what started > happening was that the departments started identifying jobs for the > totally blind, low vision, partially sighted. Obviously more jobs were > available for the Partially sighted as compared to those for the blind. > However after looking at nearly all those 17 lists I find that about 17 > jobs have been identified for the blind. This is nearly the same as those > in the Central list. Therefore for the limited issue and for the time > being I am going to say the identification process is OK. I will come back > to this issue later. > However the creating of a 3rd category in the 1% for the visually impaired > is a problem. > Now for the next step the Maharashtra Government did not fill up these > jobs so the Court hadd to intervene. On 7 September 2006 Court ordered > stay of all other recruitments until the disabled backlog was completed > and the process should be completed in 3 months. The Petitions are still > alive and the matters keep coming up on Board for hearing. The government > started issuing advertisements for walk in interviews and for written > applications. Now it has come as a big shock that most of the posts being > advertised are for the partially sighted and not for the blind or the low > visioned. > The problem is that the advertisements are more or less in line with the > jobs identified over the years so the advertisements are really not bad in > law in most cases. > Some totally blind friends approached me and I have filed an intervention > application in Petition No. 129 of 2003challenging some of the > advertisements which are not in line with the identified jobs and also > challenged the creation of Partially Sighted category. > the matter was on board yesterday however it did not reach but we > mentioned it at 3 pm but the Court said" we can remedy any wrong being > done, come back after the vacations". So here we are. > Now we will either have to file a fresh affidavit stating that the > appointments have to be stopped or the totally blind should be interviewed > also. There is a Minutes of meeting dated 26 September which states that > "people suffering from a higher degree of disability should be preferred"- > this might help if the totally blind are allowed to give the interviews. > So the next 2 weeks will be spent in collecting data of discrimination > etc. > I will not go into further detail at this stage. I will copy the order of > 7 September 2006 in Petition no. 70 of 2006 in another mail. If you want > the other orders you will have to go on to the nic site or soon to the > iway site. > Kanchan > > > - Original Message - > From: "Keshav Kumar" > To: "Pamnani" ; > Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 23:55 > Subject: Re: [AI] Recruitment of v.h. by Maharashtra Govt. a deception. > > >> Hello! >> >> one copy to me also. >> thanks in advance. >> >> regards, >> Keshav. >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Pamnani" >> To: >> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 6:29 PM >> Subject: Re: [AI] Recruitment of v.h. by Maharashtra Govt. a deception. >> >> >>> Hi, I will send it to you. Its in PDF however we are intervening >>> tomorrow so >>> will have more news by day after. >>> Kanchan Pamnani >>> Advocate & Solicitor >>> 9, Suleman Chambers, >>> Battery Street, Colaba, >>> Mumbai
[AI] Fw: Recruitment of v.h. by Maharashtra Govt. a deception.
- Original Message - From: "pamnani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Keshav Kumar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 07:30 Subject: Re: [AI] Recruitment of v.h. by Maharashtra Govt. a deception. > Let me explain this matter in detail > In 2002 ILS a law college in Pune filed a public interest litigation > against the Maharashtra Government for implementation of the PWD Act. this > Petition is numbered as 70 of 2002. In pursuance of this Petition we got > Low floor buses etc. This is an all inclusive Petition. > Subsequently the National Federation of the Blind, Maharshtra Unit filed > Petition No. 129 of 2003 for identification of jobs for the blind etc. > Both these Petitions have been heard together so there are concurrent > orders in both these matters. > I will now explain what has been happening on the issue of jobs for the > visually impaired. > Over the last 3 years various departments of the Maharshtra Government > have been identifying jobs for the disabled.There are about 17 such lists > and there matching Government Resolutions. While identifying the jobs and > creating these lists an additional category was created named"Partially > Sighted" within the broad category of visually impaired. So what started > happening was that the departments started identifying jobs for the > totally blind, low vision, partially sighted. Obviously more jobs were > available for the Partially sighted as compared to those for the blind. > However after looking at nearly all those 17 lists I find that about 17 > jobs have been identified for the blind. This is nearly the same as those > in the Central list. Therefore for the limited issue and for the time > being I am going to say the identification process is OK. I will come back > to this issue later. > However the creating of a 3rd category in the 1% for the visually impaired > is a problem. > Now for the next step the Maharashtra Government did not fill up these > jobs so the Court hadd to intervene. On 7 September 2006 Court ordered > stay of all other recruitments until the disabled backlog was completed > and the process should be completed in 3 months. The Petitions are still > alive and the matters keep coming up on Board for hearing. The government > started issuing advertisements for walk in interviews and for written > applications. Now it has come as a big shock that most of the posts being > advertised are for the partially sighted and not for the blind or the low > visioned. > The problem is that the advertisements are more or less in line with the > jobs identified over the years so the advertisements are really not bad in > law in most cases. > Some totally blind friends approached me and I have filed an intervention > application in Petition No. 129 of 2003challenging some of the > advertisements which are not in line with the identified jobs and also > challenged the creation of Partially Sighted category. > the matter was on board yesterday however it did not reach but we > mentioned it at 3 pm but the Court said" we can remedy any wrong being > done, come back after the vacations". So here we are. > Now we will either have to file a fresh affidavit stating that the > appointments have to be stopped or the totally blind should be interviewed > also. There is a Minutes of meeting dated 26 September which states that > "people suffering from a higher degree of disability should be preferred"- > this might help if the totally blind are allowed to give the interviews. > So the next 2 weeks will be spent in collecting data of discrimination > etc. > I will not go into further detail at this stage. I will copy the order of > 7 September 2006 in Petition no. 70 of 2006 in another mail. If you want > the other orders you will have to go on to the nic site or soon to the > iway site. > Kanchan > > > - Original Message - > From: "Keshav Kumar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Pamnani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 23:55 > Subject: Re: [AI] Recruitment of v.h. by Maharashtra Govt. a deception. > > >> Hello! >> >> one copy to me also. >> thanks in advance. >> >> regards, >> Keshav. >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Pamnani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: >> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 6:29 PM >> Subject: Re: [AI] Recruitment of v.h. by Maharashtra Govt. a deception. >> >> >>> Hi, I will send it to you. Its in PDF however we are intervening >>> tomorrow so >>> will have more news by day after. >>> Kanchan Pamnani >>> Advocate & Solicitor >>> 9, Suleman Chambers, >>> Battery Street, Colaba, >>> Mumbai - 400 039. >>> >>> >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Pranay Gadodia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 1:10 PM >>> Subject: Re: [AI] Recruitment of v.h. by Maharashtra Govt. a deception. >>> >>> Hi Chandrashekar and others, Can somebody please send me a e-text or scanned copy of this Maha
