Re: [AI] Help - Security Dialog

2006-08-19 Thread Rohith P
thanks dinesh for ur detailed note on secure and non-secure pages. I
too am grappling with the problem of security messages, but in my case
the non-secure site is gmail.
thanks
rohith

On 8/19/06, Dinesh Kaushal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Vidya,
>
> Security dialog is to inform you about secure or non secure web pages. when
> you transition from a secure page to a non secure or vice versa, the dialog
> pops up to inform you the status.
>
> You can also figure out if the page is secure or not by looking at the web
> address. if it has http: then it is not secure, but if it has https: then it
> is secure.
>
> In a secure page, the information that you enter on the page is sent to the
> web site after encrypting it. The web site receiving the encrypted
> information then decrypt the information. The algorithm (RSA algorithm named
> with initial letters of three of it's inventors) uses pair of keys, out of
> which one key is public and the other is private.
> The web site sends the public key to your browser , but no one other than
> the web site knows the private key (that's why it is private. Any one who
> knows the public key can encrypt the information, but without the private
> key no one can decrypt the information.
>
> private key how ever is not totally secure, given enough computing power, it
> can be deciphered. But the computing power available commonly is not enough
> to decrypt 128 bit or higher. it is shown by many researchers (using super
> computers) that up to 140 bits can be decrypted, (exact number may differ)
> as
> it's been some time for me when I had last updated my knowledge. the time it
> takes to decipher a key, grows exponentially, i.e. if it takes to decrypt a
> key an hour, it will take 2 hours to decrypt the same key with one more bit
> added to it. If you have read about the story where a king is happy and
> promises a guy to give what ever he wants, and the guy says give me 1 grain
> on the first cell of the chess, 2 on second and 4 on third, double the
> amount with each cell, and later they figure out that pretty soon they ran
> out of the whole grain supply of the state. that's how exponential growth
> works.
>
> The same technology is used by digital signature, but the process is
> reversed. anything that one wants to sign, is encrypted using the private
> key and your public key is used to decrypt the information. now the problem.
> how will someone verify that actually you signed the document? since your
> private key is not available to anyone. There comes a hierarchical system of
> maintaining private keys, where each entity stores the keys, and the final
> private key is with verisign, who maintains it somewhere in USA and the
> facility is guarded like  nuclear facilities. When we get digital signature,
> we get our private key which we should preserve with utmost care, and the
> issuing agency saves our private key by encrypting it with their public key,
> and their own private key stays with their issuing agency. and they do not
> have access to their own private key, so they generate our public key before
> encrypting our private key, as they will not be able to decrypt our private
> key then onwards. So if you want to verify that some public key is actually
> the public key of the entity who claims so, you send that public key to the
> verification agency, who maintains the private key and the public key, they
> match your public key with the public key that they have, and tell you the
> status.
>
> Digital certificates maintain all the information required to identify an
> entity. But we don't have to do all the above ourselves, mostly the software
> that we use do all the activity behind the seen.
>
> Hope it clarifies.
>
> Regards
> Dinesh
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Vidya Lakshmi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 10:24 AM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Help - Security Dialog
>
>
> >
> > Hi Kiran !
> >  At present I am doing the same. But, I didn't understand why that dialog
> > box is appearing only when clicking on some links in some sites.
> > Another worry for me is - will this dialog create any issues to the
> > computer?
> >  Thanks.
> >
> >
> >
> > Kiran Kaja <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >  Simple, click the "Yes" button.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vidya Lakshmi
> > Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 9:07 AM
> > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> > Subject: [AI] Help - Security Dialog
> >
> >
> > Hi !
> > Can anybody help me to understan

Re: [AI] Help - Security Dialog

2006-08-18 Thread Dinesh Kaushal
Hi Vidya,

Security dialog is to inform you about secure or non secure web pages. when
you transition from a secure page to a non secure or vice versa, the dialog
pops up to inform you the status.

You can also figure out if the page is secure or not by looking at the web
address. if it has http: then it is not secure, but if it has https: then it
is secure.

In a secure page, the information that you enter on the page is sent to the
web site after encrypting it. The web site receiving the encrypted
information then decrypt the information. The algorithm (RSA algorithm named 
with initial letters of three of it's inventors) uses pair of keys, out of 
which one key is public and the other is private.
The web site sends the public key to your browser , but no one other than
the web site knows the private key (that's why it is private. Any one who
knows the public key can encrypt the information, but without the private
key no one can decrypt the information.

private key how ever is not totally secure, given enough computing power, it
can be deciphered. But the computing power available commonly is not enough
to decrypt 128 bit or higher. it is shown by many researchers (using super
computers) that up to 140 bits can be decrypted, (exact number may differ) 
as
it's been some time for me when I had last updated my knowledge. the time it
takes to decipher a key, grows exponentially, i.e. if it takes to decrypt a
key an hour, it will take 2 hours to decrypt the same key with one more bit
added to it. If you have read about the story where a king is happy and
promises a guy to give what ever he wants, and the guy says give me 1 grain
on the first cell of the chess, 2 on second and 4 on third, double the
amount with each cell, and later they figure out that pretty soon they ran
out of the whole grain supply of the state. that's how exponential growth
works.

The same technology is used by digital signature, but the process is
reversed. anything that one wants to sign, is encrypted using the private
key and your public key is used to decrypt the information. now the problem.
how will someone verify that actually you signed the document? since your
private key is not available to anyone. There comes a hierarchical system of
maintaining private keys, where each entity stores the keys, and the final
private key is with verisign, who maintains it somewhere in USA and the
facility is guarded like  nuclear facilities. When we get digital signature,
we get our private key which we should preserve with utmost care, and the
issuing agency saves our private key by encrypting it with their public key,
and their own private key stays with their issuing agency. and they do not
have access to their own private key, so they generate our public key before
encrypting our private key, as they will not be able to decrypt our private
key then onwards. So if you want to verify that some public key is actually
the public key of the entity who claims so, you send that public key to the
verification agency, who maintains the private key and the public key, they
match your public key with the public key that they have, and tell you the
status.

Digital certificates maintain all the information required to identify an
entity. But we don't have to do all the above ourselves, mostly the software
that we use do all the activity behind the seen.

Hope it clarifies.

Regards
Dinesh

- Original Message - 
From: "Vidya Lakshmi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 10:24 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Help - Security Dialog


>
> Hi Kiran !
>  At present I am doing the same. But, I didn't understand why that dialog
> box is appearing only when clicking on some links in some sites.
> Another worry for me is - will this dialog create any issues to the
> computer?
>  Thanks.
>
>
>
> Kiran Kaja <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  Simple, click the "Yes" button.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vidya Lakshmi
> Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 9:07 AM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: [AI] Help - Security Dialog
>
>
> Hi !
> Can anybody help me to understand the below issue?
> Sometimes in some sites if I try to open certain links, the security
> dialog box appears. For example, you can visit dell.com. In this site if
> you
> click on link Battery Recall, you will get this dialog.
> Why is this so?
> What should one do at this time?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Vidya
> Computer Trainer
> Enable India
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Re: [AI] Help - Security Dialog

2006-08-18 Thread Vikas Kapoor
If you want to get rid of this sort of messages, just press tab where this 
message comes and a check box will come, do not display this dialogue, clear 
the check box and you'll never get this message again. If you want to enable 
of disable this message manually, go to the properties of internet explorer 
or internet options within the control panel and go the last tab which is 
advance tab and press S until you hear security open, it'll show many 
options there and select," Warn if changing between secure and not secure 
mode-ON or off" and you are done! This message only indicates whether the 
site you are using is secure or not.
Vikas Kapoor,
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Skype ID: dl_vikas
Mobile: (+91) 9891098137.
- Original Message - 
From: "Kiran Kaja" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Help - Security Dialog


> This is because of the security and privacy settings in your browser. I
> don't know which setting to change exactly to get rid of the message. But 
> it
> is not harmful .
>
> Regards,
> Kiran.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vidya Lakshmi
> Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 10:25 AM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] Help - Security Dialog
>
>
> Hi Kiran !
>  At present I am doing the same. But, I didn't understand why that dialog
> box is appearing only when clicking on some links in some sites.
> Another worry for me is - will this dialog create any issues to the
> computer?
>  Thanks.
>
>
>
> Kiran Kaja <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  Simple, click the "Yes" button.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vidya Lakshmi
> Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 9:07 AM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: [AI] Help - Security Dialog
>
>
> Hi !
> Can anybody help me to understand the below issue?
> Sometimes in some sites if I try to open certain links, the security 
> dialog
> box appears. For example, you can visit dell.com. In this site if you 
> click
> on link Battery Recall, you will get this dialog.
> Why is this so?
> What should one do at this time?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Vidya
> Computer Trainer
> Enable India
> Ph:9880708084
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Re: [AI] Help - Security Dialog

2006-08-17 Thread Kiran Kaja
This is because of the security and privacy settings in your browser. I
don't know which setting to change exactly to get rid of the message. But it
is not harmful .

Regards,
Kiran.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vidya Lakshmi
Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 10:25 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Help - Security Dialog


Hi Kiran !
  At present I am doing the same. But, I didn't understand why that dialog
box is appearing only when clicking on some links in some sites.
Another worry for me is - will this dialog create any issues to the
computer?
  Thanks.
   
  

Kiran Kaja <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Simple, click the "Yes" button. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vidya Lakshmi
Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 9:07 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] Help - Security Dialog


Hi !
Can anybody help me to understand the below issue?
Sometimes in some sites if I try to open certain links, the security dialog
box appears. For example, you can visit dell.com. In this site if you click
on link Battery Recall, you will get this dialog.
Why is this so?
What should one do at this time?

Thanks in advance




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Re: [AI] Help - Security Dialog

2006-08-17 Thread Vidya Lakshmi

Hi Kiran !
  At present I am doing the same. But, I didn't understand why that dialog box 
is appearing only when clicking on some links in some sites.
Another worry for me is - will this dialog create any issues to the computer?
  Thanks.
   
  

Kiran Kaja <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Simple, click the "Yes" button. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vidya Lakshmi
Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 9:07 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] Help - Security Dialog


Hi !
Can anybody help me to understand the below issue?
Sometimes in some sites if I try to open certain links, the security
dialog box appears. For example, you can visit dell.com. In this site if you
click on link Battery Recall, you will get this dialog.
Why is this so?
What should one do at this time?

Thanks in advance




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Re: [AI] Help - Security Dialog

2006-08-17 Thread Kiran Kaja
Simple, click the "Yes" button. 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vidya Lakshmi
Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 9:07 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] Help - Security Dialog


Hi !
  Can anybody help me to understand the below issue?
  Sometimes in some sites if I try to open certain links, the security
dialog box appears. For example, you can visit dell.com. In this site if you
click on link Battery Recall, you will get this dialog.
Why is this so?
What should one do at this time?
  
Thanks in advance
  
 


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[AI] Help - Security Dialog

2006-08-17 Thread Vidya Lakshmi

Hi !
  Can anybody help me to understand the below issue?
  Sometimes in some sites if I try to open certain links, the security dialog 
box appears. For example, you can visit dell.com. In this site if you click on 
link Battery Recall, you will get this dialog.
Why is this so?
What should one do at this time?
  
Thanks in advance
  
 


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