Re: [AI] "My experiance in travel.
I guess this inability to protest or stand against injustices is essentially got to do with the fear factor. Years of dependency and perpetual uncertainty doesn't make us feel confident enough to stand up and speak for ourselves. It has become so common for people to make an insulting remark or point at a person's disability if he/she is insistant about something. Since most of us have the fear of someone pointing at our weakness in public, we are afraid of an open confrontation. Subramani -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Asudani, Rajesh Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 2:33 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] "My experiance in travel. All these absurd problems with disability sector are because we have lost ability to give a fight. Has there been any rally to voice all these issues? Has anybody undertaken a fast to ventilate all such issues? Has anybody assassinated a prominent personality because disability issues were not taken cognizance of? Millions and millions of disabled continue to live like ants, being trod upon by so-called normal individuals daily. Abusing in the name of caste is a cognizable offence, is it so in the name of disability? No. have you wondered, why? Pick up a fight with anybody, and the first explative will be in the name of your disability... Establishments not reserving posts, not giving their due to deserving candidates, not giving any work even after appointment, constantly torturing disabled employees for not performing according to prevailing norms and procedures, Not allowing use of disabled hoach in the trains peacefully, declaring totally blind unfit for any job and so on and so on, all these are indignities which we are bearing in the name of civilization. Courts are not a panacea, and are more of problem creators than solvers. Now, giving one more example, I was threatened by none other than assistant security officer of our bank that he would not allow my autorikshaw to come till my flat's door to pick me up and drop me and I should board it my outside colony gate. Mind you, dispute between us was concerning something else, and he brought this issue as an example. Now, do you think it is decent behaviour? And, now, what can I hope for by invoking available remedies? The point in question is indignities metted out to the person on account of disability and our utter inability to undertake any fruitful action. This handicapped compartment issue is also here for ages, since they were introduced in railways. Almost all of us have suffered from it. But, we are more concerned with DGCA issuing guidelines for independent travel of disable air passengers than a disabled person being able to undertake convenient journey rightfully in railways. UGC compandium of circulars is one more example. So is arbitrariness in issuing railway concession tickets by ER clerks. So, formal and informal victimization of the disabled is a fact of life. We must, protest, at least by employing all available means against such an indignified life. Judiciary, executive consultations etc. can, to some extent, mitigate the issues. Public agitation is also one of the potent means, but is easier said than done. Mind you, I too perceive myself as one of the passive viewers/victims of this foolish process of humanity. Regards Rajesh -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of subi k.s. Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 1:52 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] "My experiance in travel. On 6/10/09, tharani wrote: > Dear A I friends: > > While I travel through train in disable coach the normal person also get in > to the disable coach. > > Not only single person, group of the person or family group member. > > This incident will be held on the starting stage. So, We don't have enif > place. > > While traveling train they lay down on the flore and they start to > smoak.after starting station there is no chance to get in to the disable > person inside of the cabin. If the disable person nock the door the normal > person keep silent and they asked are you having any concision form and show > it to us. > > Finally the disable person missed the train. In this occasion what we will > do?PLS give your cooperation for to take a good jerny. > > Thanks for ever: > > > > B. Tharanipathy. > > Mobile: 09840825958. > > > To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with > the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i n > This became a regular practise i
Re: [AI] "My experiance in travel.
One of the things we need to ensure is that if departments of the government and other public/private industries are consistant in using disability terminology mentioned in the PWD act. If not, we must insist that they use proper definitions and make it clear what they mean by it. Subramani -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of surya prakash sharma Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 4:36 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] "My experiance in travel. Hello list members, there is one more aspect of the problem which has not been discussed yet. Ministry of railways has adopted a new term--'completely blind'. I can't understand the meaning of this term properly. does it mean total absence of sight? if so, can railways adopt such a definition which is contrary to the definition enacted by the supreme legislative body of the nation. according to that definition blindness means vision not exceeding 6/60 in the better eye. do the two terms---'completely blind' and 'hundred per cent blind' carry same meaning? due to the term used by the railways people like me who are blessed with some vision have to face a lot of problems during rail journey. my disability per cent is more than 90. like totally blind persons, I also have to use Braille and screen readers. is it not discrimination on the part of railways? if so, what are we doing? since it is a matter related to the central government, I would request list members and associations in Delhi to take up the issue with the concerned department. regards, S. P. Sharma Lecturer, Political Science e-mail: surya.sharm...@gmail.com To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i n Email secured by TPML Raksha Checkpoint To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] "My experiance in travel.
Hello list members, there is one more aspect of the problem which has not been discussed yet. Ministry of railways has adopted a new term--'completely blind'. I can't understand the meaning of this term properly. does it mean total absence of sight? if so, can railways adopt such a definition which is contrary to the definition enacted by the supreme legislative body of the nation. according to that definition blindness means vision not exceeding 6/60 in the better eye. do the two terms---'completely blind' and 'hundred per cent blind' carry same meaning? due to the term used by the railways people like me who are blessed with some vision have to face a lot of problems during rail journey. my disability per cent is more than 90. like totally blind persons, I also have to use Braille and screen readers. is it not discrimination on the part of railways? if so, what are we doing? since it is a matter related to the central government, I would request list members and associations in Delhi to take up the issue with the concerned department. regards, S. P. Sharma Lecturer, Political Science e-mail: surya.sharm...@gmail.com To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] "My experiance in travel.
All these absurd problems with disability sector are because we have lost ability to give a fight. Has there been any rally to voice all these issues? Has anybody undertaken a fast to ventilate all such issues? Has anybody assassinated a prominent personality because disability issues were not taken cognizance of? Millions and millions of disabled continue to live like ants, being trod upon by so-called normal individuals daily. Abusing in the name of caste is a cognizable offence, is it so in the name of disability? No. have you wondered, why? Pick up a fight with anybody, and the first explative will be in the name of your disability... Establishments not reserving posts, not giving their due to deserving candidates, not giving any work even after appointment, constantly torturing disabled employees for not performing according to prevailing norms and procedures, Not allowing use of disabled hoach in the trains peacefully, declaring totally blind unfit for any job and so on and so on, all these are indignities which we are bearing in the name of civilization. Courts are not a panacea, and are more of problem creators than solvers. Now, giving one more example, I was threatened by none other than assistant security officer of our bank that he would not allow my autorikshaw to come till my flat's door to pick me up and drop me and I should board it my outside colony gate. Mind you, dispute between us was concerning something else, and he brought this issue as an example. Now, do you think it is decent behaviour? And, now, what can I hope for by invoking available remedies? The point in question is indignities metted out to the person on account of disability and our utter inability to undertake any fruitful action. This handicapped compartment issue is also here for ages, since they were introduced in railways. Almost all of us have suffered from it. But, we are more concerned with DGCA issuing guidelines for independent travel of disable air passengers than a disabled person being able to undertake convenient journey rightfully in railways. UGC compandium of circulars is one more example. So is arbitrariness in issuing railway concession tickets by ER clerks. So, formal and informal victimization of the disabled is a fact of life. We must, protest, at least by employing all available means against such an indignified life. Judiciary, executive consultations etc. can, to some extent, mitigate the issues. Public agitation is also one of the potent means, but is easier said than done. Mind you, I too perceive myself as one of the passive viewers/victims of this foolish process of humanity. Regards Rajesh -Original Message- From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of subi k.s. Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 1:52 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] "My experiance in travel. On 6/10/09, tharani wrote: > Dear A I friends: > > While I travel through train in disable coach the normal person also get in > to the disable coach. > > Not only single person, group of the person or family group member. > > This incident will be held on the starting stage. So, We don't have enif > place. > > While traveling train they lay down on the flore and they start to > smoak.after starting station there is no chance to get in to the disable > person inside of the cabin. If the disable person nock the door the normal > person keep silent and they asked are you having any concision form and show > it to us. > > Finally the disable person missed the train. In this occasion what we will > do?PLS give your cooperation for to take a good jerny. > > Thanks for ever: > > > > B. Tharanipathy. > > Mobile: 09840825958. > > > To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with > the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > This became a regular practise in kerala also. To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use, review, distribution, printing or copying of the information contained in this e-mail message and/or attachments to it are strictly prohibited. If you have received this email by error, please notify us by return e-mail or telephone
Re: [AI] "My experiance in travel.
On 6/10/09, tharani wrote: > Dear A I friends: > > While I travel through train in disable coach the normal person also get in > to the disable coach. > > Not only single person, group of the person or family group member. > > This incident will be held on the starting stage. So, We don't have enif > place. > > While traveling train they lay down on the flore and they start to > smoak.after starting station there is no chance to get in to the disable > person inside of the cabin. If the disable person nock the door the normal > person keep silent and they asked are you having any concision form and show > it to us. > > Finally the disable person missed the train. In this occasion what we will > do?PLS give your cooperation for to take a good jerny. > > Thanks for ever: > > > > B. Tharanipathy. > > Mobile: 09840825958. > > > To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with > the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > This became a regular practise in kerala also. To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
[AI] "My experiance in travel.
Dear A I friends: While I travel through train in disable coach the normal person also get in to the disable coach. Not only single person, group of the person or family group member. This incident will be held on the starting stage. So, We don't have enif place. While traveling train they lay down on the flore and they start to smoak.after starting station there is no chance to get in to the disable person inside of the cabin. If the disable person nock the door the normal person keep silent and they asked are you having any concision form and show it to us. Finally the disable person missed the train. In this occasion what we will do?PLS give your cooperation for to take a good jerny. Thanks for ever: B. Tharanipathy. Mobile: 09840825958. To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
