Re: [AI] Soon, facilities for the physically challenged at all police stations

2013-11-18 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
FD Roosevelt bringing in americans with disabilities act?
At least not to my knowledge.
He was in WWII whereas ADA was passed in 1990 at the time of George Bush, 
senior,me thinks.
In fact, FDR tried to hide his disability from public view, to the best of my 
knowledge...


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
shankar shan
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 11:36 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Soon, facilities for the physically challenged at all police 
stations

On 18/11/2013, maitreya shah  wrote:
> hello,
> the arguements for pwds in politics are true in their sense .
> but ,here i am with an example from america.
> today ,the american disability act is well known .
> before some years ,the american pwds also faced the same circumstances
> as we are facing now.
>
> but american president Franklin roosevelt who was the only disabled
> president of america ,
> forced and boost the american disability act .
> and now ,the results are clearly visible.
> so ,i believe that this would happen in india too.
>
> thanks ,
> Maitreya Shah
>
> On 11/18/13, shankar shan  wrote:
>> my dear friends and listers, discussion is moving smoothly, I don't
>> want to take it in to rong track, but how many people no that, andra
>> Pradesh has given 2 pwd candidates to the lok sabha [jay pal reddy and
>> chirinjivi]
>> and many politisions got disabled children at there houses till now,
>> they got every thing, apart from education
>> those 2 candidates would had made some changes for the differently
>> abled people, but they r not, innstud, they r supporting to brake the
>> state in to 2 peaces
>>
>>
>> On 18/11/2013, Neerajsaxena  wrote:
>>> Absolutely right, we need political and social activity more then
>>> judicial.
>>> -Original message-
>>> From: avinash shahi
>>> Sent:  17/11/2013, 9:05  pm
>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerning
>>> the disabled.
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Soon, facilities for the physically challenged at all
>>> police stations
>>>
>>>
>>> Bhawani Sir
>>>
>>> In Countries Like South Africa, Norway, Denmark have very worth-noting
>>> seat allocation arrangement in place. Political parties are themselves
>>> responsible to ensure representation of all sections. In these
>>> countries Women don't have to seek and fight for reservation in
>>> parliament. In South Africa, till few months ago, Education minister
>>> was blind woman. And in Norway, Disabled people fight local election
>>> in large numbers.
>>> What I want to convey, its just a matter of political will and right
>>> intent.
>>> And I think it is very much possible that blind people will be  MPs
>>> and MLAs, then will play an effective role in future in India also.
>>> We as a whole, need to introspect do we ever show our strength as
>>> politically active citizens?
>>> Do we ever make policy-makers and politicians realise look we are also
>>> potential electorates? and can help in swinging the table?
>>> Better we raise our own voice and don't become subjects of others as
>>> was reflected when Salman Khursheed's wife Louis Khursheed's NGO was
>>> in question and Arvind Khejriwal used this opportunity to cash in the
>>> moment. but Now Tickets are being given, but where is disabled
>>> candidate contesting on behalf of AAP?
>>> And yes, as far as NGOs are concerned, Most of the NGOs are
>>> individual-centric as mentioned by Nilika Mehrotra in her piece
>>> 'Disability Movement in India: Politics and Practice'.
>>> I'm pasting few sentences from the piece very interesting read indeed:
>>> 'Post the PWD Act, in fact, a large number of disability issues
>>> related NGOs have been set up. Many are small in size; the smaller
>>> ones are flexible in terms of receiving funds and moving from project
>>> to project and are not necessarily directed in their actions by the
>>> state. But, these groups also suffer from personality cults and remain
>>> leader centred. Ghai (2003) argues that disability rights
>>> organizations are dominated by the concerns of middle-class men.
>>> The problem, however, arises when their fight for 'disability rights'
>>> subsumes agendas that are visible and significant only for the very
>>> privileged of the disabled. C

Re: [AI] Soon, facilities for the physically challenged at all police stations

2013-11-17 Thread shankar shan
On 18/11/2013, maitreya shah  wrote:
> hello,
> the arguements for pwds in politics are true in their sense .
> but ,here i am with an example from america.
> today ,the american disability act is well known .
> before some years ,the american pwds also faced the same circumstances
> as we are facing now.
>
> but american president Franklin roosevelt who was the only disabled
> president of america ,
> forced and boost the american disability act .
> and now ,the results are clearly visible.
> so ,i believe that this would happen in india too.
>
> thanks ,
> Maitreya Shah
>
> On 11/18/13, shankar shan  wrote:
>> my dear friends and listers, discussion is moving smoothly, I don't
>> want to take it in to rong track, but how many people no that, andra
>> Pradesh has given 2 pwd candidates to the lok sabha [jay pal reddy and
>> chirinjivi]
>> and many politisions got disabled children at there houses till now,
>> they got every thing, apart from education
>> those 2 candidates would had made some changes for the differently
>> abled people, but they r not, innstud, they r supporting to brake the
>> state in to 2 peaces
>>
>>
>> On 18/11/2013, Neerajsaxena  wrote:
>>> Absolutely right, we need political and social activity more then
>>> judicial.
>>> -Original message-
>>> From: avinash shahi
>>> Sent:  17/11/2013, 9:05  pm
>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerning
>>> the disabled.
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Soon, facilities for the physically challenged at all
>>> police stations
>>>
>>>
>>> Bhawani Sir
>>>
>>> In Countries Like South Africa, Norway, Denmark have very worth-noting
>>> seat allocation arrangement in place. Political parties are themselves
>>> responsible to ensure representation of all sections. In these
>>> countries Women don't have to seek and fight for reservation in
>>> parliament. In South Africa, till few months ago, Education minister
>>> was blind woman. And in Norway, Disabled people fight local election
>>> in large numbers.
>>> What I want to convey, its just a matter of political will and right
>>> intent.
>>> And I think it is very much possible that blind people will be  MPs
>>> and MLAs, then will play an effective role in future in India also.
>>> We as a whole, need to introspect do we ever show our strength as
>>> politically active citizens?
>>> Do we ever make policy-makers and politicians realise look we are also
>>> potential electorates? and can help in swinging the table?
>>> Better we raise our own voice and don't become subjects of others as
>>> was reflected when Salman Khursheed's wife Louis Khursheed's NGO was
>>> in question and Arvind Khejriwal used this opportunity to cash in the
>>> moment. but Now Tickets are being given, but where is disabled
>>> candidate contesting on behalf of AAP?
>>> And yes, as far as NGOs are concerned, Most of the NGOs are
>>> individual-centric as mentioned by Nilika Mehrotra in her piece
>>> 'Disability Movement in India: Politics and Practice'.
>>> I'm pasting few sentences from the piece very interesting read indeed:
>>> 'Post the PWD Act, in fact, a large number of disability issues
>>> related NGOs have been set up. Many are small in size; the smaller
>>> ones are flexible in terms of receiving funds and moving from project
>>> to project and are not necessarily directed in their actions by the
>>> state. But, these groups also suffer from personality cults and remain
>>> leader centred. Ghai (2003) argues that disability rights
>>> organizations are dominated by the concerns of middle-class men.
>>> The problem, however, arises when their fight for 'disability rights'
>>> subsumes agendas that are visible and significant only for the very
>>> privileged of the disabled. Concessions in air travel, hotels, and
>>> special parking facilities, though undeniably necessary, are
>>> meaningful only to a selected population of the disabled. The truth is
>>> that these issues do not resonate in the lives of the majority of
>>> disabled who are further marginalized by virtue of their class, caste,
>>> rural or urban residence, and most strikingly, gender. What is and
>>> should be more significant for them are the issues of education,
>>> employment, residence, technological aids, and accessibility, to name
>>> a fe

Re: [AI] Soon, facilities for the physically challenged at all police stations

2013-11-17 Thread maitreya shah
hello,
the arguements for pwds in politics are true in their sense .
but ,here i am with an example from america.
today ,the american disability act is well known .
before some years ,the american pwds also faced the same circumstances
as we are facing now.

but american president Franklin roosevelt who was the only disabled
president of america ,
forced and boost the american disability act .
and now ,the results are clearly visible.
so ,i believe that this would happen in india too.

thanks ,
Maitreya Shah

On 11/18/13, shankar shan  wrote:
> my dear friends and listers, discussion is moving smoothly, I don't
> want to take it in to rong track, but how many people no that, andra
> Pradesh has given 2 pwd candidates to the lok sabha [jay pal reddy and
> chirinjivi]
> and many politisions got disabled children at there houses till now,
> they got every thing, apart from education
> those 2 candidates would had made some changes for the differently
> abled people, but they r not, innstud, they r supporting to brake the
> state in to 2 peaces
>
>
> On 18/11/2013, Neerajsaxena  wrote:
>> Absolutely right, we need political and social activity more then
>> judicial.
>> -Original message-
>> From: avinash shahi
>> Sent:  17/11/2013, 9:05  pm
>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning
>>      the disabled.
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Soon, facilities for the physically challenged at all
>> police stations
>>
>>
>> Bhawani Sir
>>
>> In Countries Like South Africa, Norway, Denmark have very worth-noting
>> seat allocation arrangement in place. Political parties are themselves
>> responsible to ensure representation of all sections. In these
>> countries Women don't have to seek and fight for reservation in
>> parliament. In South Africa, till few months ago, Education minister
>> was blind woman. And in Norway, Disabled people fight local election
>> in large numbers.
>> What I want to convey, its just a matter of political will and right
>> intent.
>> And I think it is very much possible that blind people will be  MPs
>> and MLAs, then will play an effective role in future in India also.
>> We as a whole, need to introspect do we ever show our strength as
>> politically active citizens?
>> Do we ever make policy-makers and politicians realise look we are also
>> potential electorates? and can help in swinging the table?
>> Better we raise our own voice and don't become subjects of others as
>> was reflected when Salman Khursheed's wife Louis Khursheed's NGO was
>> in question and Arvind Khejriwal used this opportunity to cash in the
>> moment. but Now Tickets are being given, but where is disabled
>> candidate contesting on behalf of AAP?
>> And yes, as far as NGOs are concerned, Most of the NGOs are
>> individual-centric as mentioned by Nilika Mehrotra in her piece
>> 'Disability Movement in India: Politics and Practice'.
>> I'm pasting few sentences from the piece very interesting read indeed:
>> 'Post the PWD Act, in fact, a large number of disability issues
>> related NGOs have been set up. Many are small in size; the smaller
>> ones are flexible in terms of receiving funds and moving from project
>> to project and are not necessarily directed in their actions by the
>> state. But, these groups also suffer from personality cults and remain
>> leader centred. Ghai (2003) argues that disability rights
>> organizations are dominated by the concerns of middle-class men.
>> The problem, however, arises when their fight for 'disability rights'
>> subsumes agendas that are visible and significant only for the very
>> privileged of the disabled. Concessions in air travel, hotels, and
>> special parking facilities, though undeniably necessary, are
>> meaningful only to a selected population of the disabled. The truth is
>> that these issues do not resonate in the lives of the majority of
>> disabled who are further marginalized by virtue of their class, caste,
>> rural or urban residence, and most strikingly, gender. What is and
>> should be more significant for them are the issues of education,
>> employment, residence, technological aids, and accessibility, to name
>> a few. The reality, however, is that the majority of the disabled are
>> still fighting to secure the 'bare minimum'. (Mehrotra, 2013).
>>
>> On 11/17/13, bhawani shankar verma  wrote:
>>> which party will give a ticket to blind person to fight in elections? in
>>> case of independent candidate, who will bear expenses. I don't live in
>>

Re: [AI] Soon, facilities for the physically challenged at all police stations

2013-11-17 Thread shankar shan
my dear friends and listers, discussion is moving smoothly, I don't
want to take it in to rong track, but how many people no that, andra
Pradesh has given 2 pwd candidates to the lok sabha [jay pal reddy and
chirinjivi]
and many politisions got disabled children at there houses till now,
they got every thing, apart from education
those 2 candidates would had made some changes for the differently
abled people, but they r not, innstud, they r supporting to brake the
state in to 2 peaces


On 18/11/2013, Neerajsaxena  wrote:
> Absolutely right, we need political and social activity more then judicial.
> -Original message-
> From: avinash shahi
> Sent:  17/11/2013, 9:05  pm
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
>   the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] Soon, facilities for the physically challenged at all
> police stations
>
>
> Bhawani Sir
>
> In Countries Like South Africa, Norway, Denmark have very worth-noting
> seat allocation arrangement in place. Political parties are themselves
> responsible to ensure representation of all sections. In these
> countries Women don't have to seek and fight for reservation in
> parliament. In South Africa, till few months ago, Education minister
> was blind woman. And in Norway, Disabled people fight local election
> in large numbers.
> What I want to convey, its just a matter of political will and right
> intent.
> And I think it is very much possible that blind people will be  MPs
> and MLAs, then will play an effective role in future in India also.
> We as a whole, need to introspect do we ever show our strength as
> politically active citizens?
> Do we ever make policy-makers and politicians realise look we are also
> potential electorates? and can help in swinging the table?
> Better we raise our own voice and don't become subjects of others as
> was reflected when Salman Khursheed's wife Louis Khursheed's NGO was
> in question and Arvind Khejriwal used this opportunity to cash in the
> moment. but Now Tickets are being given, but where is disabled
> candidate contesting on behalf of AAP?
> And yes, as far as NGOs are concerned, Most of the NGOs are
> individual-centric as mentioned by Nilika Mehrotra in her piece
> 'Disability Movement in India: Politics and Practice'.
> I'm pasting few sentences from the piece very interesting read indeed:
> 'Post the PWD Act, in fact, a large number of disability issues
> related NGOs have been set up. Many are small in size; the smaller
> ones are flexible in terms of receiving funds and moving from project
> to project and are not necessarily directed in their actions by the
> state. But, these groups also suffer from personality cults and remain
> leader centred. Ghai (2003) argues that disability rights
> organizations are dominated by the concerns of middle-class men.
> The problem, however, arises when their fight for 'disability rights'
> subsumes agendas that are visible and significant only for the very
> privileged of the disabled. Concessions in air travel, hotels, and
> special parking facilities, though undeniably necessary, are
> meaningful only to a selected population of the disabled. The truth is
> that these issues do not resonate in the lives of the majority of
> disabled who are further marginalized by virtue of their class, caste,
> rural or urban residence, and most strikingly, gender. What is and
> should be more significant for them are the issues of education,
> employment, residence, technological aids, and accessibility, to name
> a few. The reality, however, is that the majority of the disabled are
> still fighting to secure the 'bare minimum'. (Mehrotra, 2013).
>
> On 11/17/13, bhawani shankar verma  wrote:
>> which party will give a ticket to blind person to fight in elections? in
>> case of independent candidate, who will bear expenses. I don't live in
>> virtual world and also don't believe on idealism, hence, i can't imagine
>> whether it will become true or not.
>> today's most of the NGOs are working for the blind are being lead by
>> sighted
>>
>> people. how many NGOs working for the blind, deployed blind persons in
>> their
>>
>> own organisation? how many blind persons are chief administrators of NGOs
>> working for the blind? where as we fight for class 1 and 2 posts.
>> how many blind administrators given opportunities to another blind person
>> to
>>
>> become their personal assistant in their own offices? where as the
>> personal
>>
>> assistant job is an identified job for blind. there is no integration
>> itself
>>
>> in our society, how do we expec

Re: [AI] Soon, facilities for the physically challenged at all police stations

2013-11-17 Thread Neerajsaxena
Absolutely right, we need political and social activity more then judicial.
-Original message-
From: avinash shahi
Sent:  17/11/2013, 9:05  pm
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Soon, facilities for the physically challenged at all police 
stations


Bhawani Sir

In Countries Like South Africa, Norway, Denmark have very worth-noting
seat allocation arrangement in place. Political parties are themselves
responsible to ensure representation of all sections. In these
countries Women don't have to seek and fight for reservation in
parliament. In South Africa, till few months ago, Education minister
was blind woman. And in Norway, Disabled people fight local election
in large numbers.
What I want to convey, its just a matter of political will and right intent.
And I think it is very much possible that blind people will be  MPs
and MLAs, then will play an effective role in future in India also.
We as a whole, need to introspect do we ever show our strength as
politically active citizens?
Do we ever make policy-makers and politicians realise look we are also
potential electorates? and can help in swinging the table?
Better we raise our own voice and don't become subjects of others as
was reflected when Salman Khursheed's wife Louis Khursheed's NGO was
in question and Arvind Khejriwal used this opportunity to cash in the
moment. but Now Tickets are being given, but where is disabled
candidate contesting on behalf of AAP?
And yes, as far as NGOs are concerned, Most of the NGOs are
individual-centric as mentioned by Nilika Mehrotra in her piece
'Disability Movement in India: Politics and Practice'.
I'm pasting few sentences from the piece very interesting read indeed:
'Post the PWD Act, in fact, a large number of disability issues
related NGOs have been set up. Many are small in size; the smaller
ones are flexible in terms of receiving funds and moving from project
to project and are not necessarily directed in their actions by the
state. But, these groups also suffer from personality cults and remain
leader centred. Ghai (2003) argues that disability rights
organizations are dominated by the concerns of middle-class men.
The problem, however, arises when their fight for 'disability rights'
subsumes agendas that are visible and significant only for the very
privileged of the disabled. Concessions in air travel, hotels, and
special parking facilities, though undeniably necessary, are
meaningful only to a selected population of the disabled. The truth is
that these issues do not resonate in the lives of the majority of
disabled who are further marginalized by virtue of their class, caste,
rural or urban residence, and most strikingly, gender. What is and
should be more significant for them are the issues of education,
employment, residence, technological aids, and accessibility, to name
a few. The reality, however, is that the majority of the disabled are
still fighting to secure the 'bare minimum'. (Mehrotra, 2013).

On 11/17/13, bhawani shankar verma  wrote:
> which party will give a ticket to blind person to fight in elections? in
> case of independent candidate, who will bear expenses. I don't live in
> virtual world and also don't believe on idealism, hence, i can't imagine
> whether it will become true or not.
> today's most of the NGOs are working for the blind are being lead by sighted
>
> people. how many NGOs working for the blind, deployed blind persons in their
>
> own organisation? how many blind persons are chief administrators of NGOs
> working for the blind? where as we fight for class 1 and 2 posts.
> how many blind administrators given opportunities to another blind person to
>
> become their personal assistant in their own offices? where as the personal
>
> assistant job is an identified job for blind. there is no integration itself
>
> in our society, how do we expect it from the main stream?
> personally i don't want to let blind person come in parliament.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "maitreya shah" 
> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
> concerningthe disabled." 
> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 10:32 AM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Soon,facilities for the physically challenged at all
> police stations
>
>
>> hi ,
>> one more thing i will like to add .
>> i believe ,that
>> some or other PWDS and especially VI should enter into politics strongly
>> .
>> because in india if we want our rights,we need the help of politics .
>> and once any PWD occupies a good position in politics,i think that our
>> journey and efforts will be simpler .
>> and ,will like to know about any such politician with any kind of
>> disability .
>>

Re: [AI] Soon, facilities for the physically challenged at all police stations

2013-11-17 Thread avinash shahi
Bhawani Sir

In Countries Like South Africa, Norway, Denmark have very worth-noting
seat allocation arrangement in place. Political parties are themselves
responsible to ensure representation of all sections. In these
countries Women don't have to seek and fight for reservation in
parliament. In South Africa, till few months ago, Education minister
was blind woman. And in Norway, Disabled people fight local election
in large numbers.
What I want to convey, its just a matter of political will and right intent.
And I think it is very much possible that blind people will be  MPs
and MLAs, then will play an effective role in future in India also.
We as a whole, need to introspect do we ever show our strength as
politically active citizens?
Do we ever make policy-makers and politicians realise look we are also
potential electorates? and can help in swinging the table?
Better we raise our own voice and don't become subjects of others as
was reflected when Salman Khursheed's wife Louis Khursheed's NGO was
in question and Arvind Khejriwal used this opportunity to cash in the
moment. but Now Tickets are being given, but where is disabled
candidate contesting on behalf of AAP?
And yes, as far as NGOs are concerned, Most of the NGOs are
individual-centric as mentioned by Nilika Mehrotra in her piece
'Disability Movement in India: Politics and Practice'.
I'm pasting few sentences from the piece very interesting read indeed:
'Post the PWD Act, in fact, a large number of disability issues
related NGOs have been set up. Many are small in size; the smaller
ones are flexible in terms of receiving funds and moving from project
to project and are not necessarily directed in their actions by the
state. But, these groups also suffer from personality cults and remain
leader centred. Ghai (2003) argues that disability rights
organizations are dominated by the concerns of middle-class men.
The problem, however, arises when their fight for 'disability rights'
subsumes agendas that are visible and significant only for the very
privileged of the disabled. Concessions in air travel, hotels, and
special parking facilities, though undeniably necessary, are
meaningful only to a selected population of the disabled. The truth is
that these issues do not resonate in the lives of the majority of
disabled who are further marginalized by virtue of their class, caste,
rural or urban residence, and most strikingly, gender. What is and
should be more significant for them are the issues of education,
employment, residence, technological aids, and accessibility, to name
a few. The reality, however, is that the majority of the disabled are
still fighting to secure the 'bare minimum'. (Mehrotra, 2013).

On 11/17/13, bhawani shankar verma  wrote:
> which party will give a ticket to blind person to fight in elections? in
> case of independent candidate, who will bear expenses. I don't live in
> virtual world and also don't believe on idealism, hence, i can't imagine
> whether it will become true or not.
> today's most of the NGOs are working for the blind are being lead by sighted
>
> people. how many NGOs working for the blind, deployed blind persons in their
>
> own organisation? how many blind persons are chief administrators of NGOs
> working for the blind? where as we fight for class 1 and 2 posts.
> how many blind administrators given opportunities to another blind person to
>
> become their personal assistant in their own offices? where as the personal
>
> assistant job is an identified job for blind. there is no integration itself
>
> in our society, how do we expect it from the main stream?
> personally i don't want to let blind person come in parliament.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "maitreya shah" 
> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
> concerningthe disabled." 
> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 10:32 AM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Soon,facilities for the physically challenged at all
> police stations
>
>
>> hi ,
>> one more thing i will like to add .
>> i believe ,that
>> some or other PWDS and especially VI should enter into politics strongly
>> .
>> because in india if we want our rights,we need the help of politics .
>> and once any PWD occupies a good position in politics,i think that our
>> journey and efforts will be simpler .
>> and ,will like to know about any such politician with any kind of
>> disability .
>>
>> thanks
>>
>>
>> On 11/16/13, avinash shahi  wrote:
>>> Discussion is going in right direction where I wanted this to head.
>>> You are right Grassroot movement was the base on which many
>>> Institutes/NGOs as superstructures standing today. But sadly, the zeal
>>> and co

Re: [AI] Soon, facilities for the physically challenged at all police stations

2013-11-17 Thread bhawani shankar verma
avinash, please read an english drama "animal's farm house" by george orvil. 
may be i have wrongly spelled the writer's name but, the title of drama is 
correct.


- Original Message - 
From: "avinash shahi" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled." 

Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 10:45 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Soon,facilities for the physically challenged at all 
police stations




There are many politicians with disabilities.
And many will become soon... In fact they are temporarily abled, but
they don't accept.
Language for understanding disability needs to be changed, you know.
Who says only Wheel-chair user and stick holder is disabled? didn't
Sonia go for Cancer treatment toUS, they say.
On 11/17/13, maitreya shah  wrote:

hi ,
one more thing i will like to add .
i believe ,that
some or other PWDS and especially VI should enter into politics strongly 
.

because in india if we want our rights,we need the help of politics .
and once any PWD occupies a good position in politics,i think that our
journey and efforts will be simpler .
and ,will like to know about any such politician with any kind of 
disability

.

thanks


On 11/16/13, avinash shahi  wrote:

Discussion is going in right direction where I wanted this to head.
You are right Grassroot movement was the base on which many
Institutes/NGOs as superstructures standing today. But sadly, the zeal
and commitment for snatching rights which is denied is missing today.
reasons can be many, but that zeal and fire to die for our due is on
decline. close-door discussions are supplementary methods and do not
address grassroot hardships face by fellow beings.
Moreover, In fact, In this eara where buzzword 'governance' is on
Everybody's mind, and planning commission is busy in collating
different vantage points for policy formulations and funds allocation
our Representatives lack so called expertees.
On 11/16/13, bhawani shankar verma  wrote:

no avinash, todays NGOs are working more towards advocacy and less
towards
movement. i am not against the advocacy but, a movement is also
required.
it is too easy to file a case in the court but, it is dificult to
collect
the blind people from the entire country or state. a strong movement is
still require for upliftment of blind people. you can only get order
through

advocacy. for implimentation it requires movement.

- Original Message -
From: "avinash shahi" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled." 
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 7:42 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Soon,facilities for the physically challenged at all
police stations



Amen Vamshi Sir.
But politics of representation in such committees is very covert.
and question arises, do we have any credited Access Audit specialist
among our blind people fraternity?
This is the missing link of activism driven by Majority of NGOs
working for blind people  and they are yet to embrace activism which
drives policy-making.
On 11/16/13, Vamshi. G  wrote:

HI,

This is definitely a good move.  I think organisations like Swayam)I
think) having people like SC Vasisht should be invited into such
committees as they have worked on accessibility of public places in
the past.  I don't know how things happen at that level.  But I think
we  should volunteer to offer expertise on complete accessibility at
this stage of the project rather than just criticise it after it has
been completed.



On 11/16/13, maitreya shah  wrote:

if i am not mistaken ,
it is persons with disabilities ...(PWDS!)


On 11/16/13, Bhavya shah  wrote:

What is pwds?
Regards

On 11/16/13, avinash shahi  wrote:

well read Bhavani sir.
In fact, these Policy makers and auditors only know Ramps as
enabling
condition for disabled.
And accessibility of public places from vantage point of Visually
challenged is not on a priority.
I don't know any excess audit team where visually challenged is 
one

of
the members. Hope members will provide some data on this.

On 11/16/13, bhawani shankar verma  wrote:

great news! baby is crying for food and has been given lollypop.
toilets and ramps are the only requirement for pwdS


-Original Message-
From: avinash shahi
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 11:21 AM
To: jnuvision ; accessindia
Cc: sayeverything
Subject: [AI] Soon,facilities for the physically challenged at 
all

police
stations

This morning How come this surprising news...
But certainly when PWD Act 1995 is about to be replaced perhaps
this
department has also felt the need that look, Disabled can also
come
to
lodge FIR independently. So you have legal capacity, you know.
undoubtedly this announcement is a welcome move.
Hope they act on this promise soon.
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/soon-facilities-for-the-physically-challenged-at-all-police-stations/1195525/0

Delhi Police is now in the proce

Re: [AI] Soon, facilities for the physically challenged at all police stations

2013-11-17 Thread bhawani shankar verma
which party will give a ticket to blind person to fight in elections? in 
case of independent candidate, who will bear expenses. I don't live in 
virtual world and also don't believe on idealism, hence, i can't imagine 
whether it will become true or not.
today's most of the NGOs are working for the blind are being lead by sighted 
people. how many NGOs working for the blind, deployed blind persons in their 
own organisation? how many blind persons are chief administrators of NGOs 
working for the blind? where as we fight for class 1 and 2 posts.
how many blind administrators given opportunities to another blind person to 
become their personal assistant in their own offices? where as the personal 
assistant job is an identified job for blind. there is no integration itself 
in our society, how do we expect it from the main stream?

personally i don't want to let blind person come in parliament.

- Original Message - 
From: "maitreya shah" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled." 

Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 10:32 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Soon,facilities for the physically challenged at all 
police stations




hi ,
one more thing i will like to add .
i believe ,that
some or other PWDS and especially VI should enter into politics strongly .
because in india if we want our rights,we need the help of politics .
and once any PWD occupies a good position in politics,i think that our
journey and efforts will be simpler .
and ,will like to know about any such politician with any kind of 
disability .


thanks


On 11/16/13, avinash shahi  wrote:

Discussion is going in right direction where I wanted this to head.
You are right Grassroot movement was the base on which many
Institutes/NGOs as superstructures standing today. But sadly, the zeal
and commitment for snatching rights which is denied is missing today.
reasons can be many, but that zeal and fire to die for our due is on
decline. close-door discussions are supplementary methods and do not
address grassroot hardships face by fellow beings.
Moreover, In fact, In this eara where buzzword 'governance' is on
Everybody's mind, and planning commission is busy in collating
different vantage points for policy formulations and funds allocation
our Representatives lack so called expertees.
On 11/16/13, bhawani shankar verma  wrote:

no avinash, todays NGOs are working more towards advocacy and less
towards
movement. i am not against the advocacy but, a movement is also 
required.
it is too easy to file a case in the court but, it is dificult to 
collect

the blind people from the entire country or state. a strong movement is
still require for upliftment of blind people. you can only get order
through

advocacy. for implimentation it requires movement.

- Original Message -
From: "avinash shahi" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled." 
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 7:42 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Soon,facilities for the physically challenged at all
police stations



Amen Vamshi Sir.
But politics of representation in such committees is very covert.
and question arises, do we have any credited Access Audit specialist
among our blind people fraternity?
This is the missing link of activism driven by Majority of NGOs
working for blind people  and they are yet to embrace activism which
drives policy-making.
On 11/16/13, Vamshi. G  wrote:

HI,

This is definitely a good move.  I think organisations like Swayam)I
think) having people like SC Vasisht should be invited into such
committees as they have worked on accessibility of public places in
the past.  I don't know how things happen at that level.  But I think
we  should volunteer to offer expertise on complete accessibility at
this stage of the project rather than just criticise it after it has
been completed.



On 11/16/13, maitreya shah  wrote:

if i am not mistaken ,
it is persons with disabilities ...(PWDS!)


On 11/16/13, Bhavya shah  wrote:

What is pwds?
Regards

On 11/16/13, avinash shahi  wrote:

well read Bhavani sir.
In fact, these Policy makers and auditors only know Ramps as
enabling
condition for disabled.
And accessibility of public places from vantage point of Visually
challenged is not on a priority.
I don't know any excess audit team where visually challenged is one
of
the members. Hope members will provide some data on this.

On 11/16/13, bhawani shankar verma  wrote:

great news! baby is crying for food and has been given lollypop.
toilets and ramps are the only requirement for pwdS


-Original Message-
From: avinash shahi
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 11:21 AM
To: jnuvision ; accessindia
Cc: sayeverything
Subject: [AI] Soon,facilities for the physically challenged at all
police
stations

This morning How come this surprising news...
But certainly when PWD Act 1995 is about to be repl

Re: [AI] Soon, facilities for the physically challenged at all police stations

2013-11-17 Thread maitreya shah
avinash sir,
true said .
i hope and believe that the PWDS so called by the society ,
who have reached to almost each and every field known ,
will achieve landmark in the politics too .
and let me say ,
that i am just a student of highschool and since i am suffering from
visual impairment ,
i am having a dream of entering politics .
and i know that many others too have such dreams .

thanks
Maitreya Shah



On 11/17/13, Bhavya shah  wrote:
> Thanks, Maitreya Ma'am, PWDS seems logical to be the abbreviation of
> Person With Disabilities.
> Regards
> Bhavya
>
> On 11/17/13, rohit gowlikar  wrote:
>> On 11/16/13, avinash shahi  wrote:
>>> This morning How come this surprising news...
>>> But certainly when PWD Act 1995 is about to be replaced perhaps this
>>> department has also felt the need that look, Disabled can also come to
>>> lodge FIR independently. So you have legal capacity, you know.
>>> undoubtedly this announcement is a welcome move.
>>> Hope they act on this promise soon.
>>> http://www.indianexpress.com/news/soon-facilities-for-the-physically-challenged-at-all-police-stations/1195525/0
>>>
>>> Delhi Police is now in the process of making arrangements for the
>>> physically challenged at all police stations and unit offices. The
>>> department is in talks with the Ministry of Social Justice and
>>> Empowerment under the Government of India and an expert will be
>>> appointed to conduct an audit of all police stations and submit a
>>> report to the Ministry. The matter will be referred to the Ministry of
>>> Home Affairs for administrative sanctions and approval.
>>> Police sources told Newsline that the talks were initiated earlier
>>> this month after the department felt the need to equip its offices
>>> with facilities for the physically challenged.
>>>
>>> A senior police officer said: "The force is meant for the public and
>>> our job is to deal with the public. For physically challenged persons,
>>> we have decided that basic facilities need to be there to help them
>>> approach us easily."
>>>
>>> The idea, police sources said, is to install physically
>>> challenged-friendly toilets and ramps for disabled persons at all 181
>>> police stations, 11 offices of deputy commissioners of police and
>>> other unit offices. Police sources said the project, when approved,
>>> will be facilitated under the Scheme for Implementation of Persons
>>> with Disabilities Act.
>>>
>>> Sources said an expert has been identified and will be appointed by
>>> the Ministry to conduct an audit of all the offices and prepare a
>>> report to make buildings physically challenged-friendly.
>>>
>>> "The Public Works department (PWD) will be asked to prepare an
>>> estimate of the cost of the entire project and submit the same to the
>>> department and the Ministry. The Ministry of Social Justice and
>>> Empowerment will then fund the project. The matter will also be
>>> forwarded to the MHA for administrative approval and expenditure
>>> sanctions," the officer said.
>>>
>>> There are 181 police stations in the city, of which 113 police
>>> stations are running in their own buildings, 10 are under
>>> construction, 22 are yet to be constructed and 36 are yet to get their
>>> land.
>>>
>>> "The police stations that are being constructed and those that have
>>> been approved and construction is slated to begin in the coming
>>> months, have taken care of the aspect. These too be will be audited,"
>>> the officer said.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Avinash Shahi
>>> M.Phil Research Scholar
>>> Centre for The Study of Law and Governance
>>> Jawaharlal Nehru University
>>> New Delhi India
>>>
>>> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility
>>> of
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>>>they  should have  done this long ago, fine better late then never
>> hope this is not only for the dehli police  , and what I personly feel
>> is that they should be a sensitivity training for all the govt
>> employees so that no PWD is humiliated
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Re: [AI] Soon, facilities for the physically challenged at all police stations

2013-11-17 Thread Bhavya shah
Thanks, Maitreya Ma'am, PWDS seems logical to be the abbreviation of
Person With Disabilities.
Regards
Bhavya

On 11/17/13, rohit gowlikar  wrote:
> On 11/16/13, avinash shahi  wrote:
>> This morning How come this surprising news...
>> But certainly when PWD Act 1995 is about to be replaced perhaps this
>> department has also felt the need that look, Disabled can also come to
>> lodge FIR independently. So you have legal capacity, you know.
>> undoubtedly this announcement is a welcome move.
>> Hope they act on this promise soon.
>> http://www.indianexpress.com/news/soon-facilities-for-the-physically-challenged-at-all-police-stations/1195525/0
>>
>> Delhi Police is now in the process of making arrangements for the
>> physically challenged at all police stations and unit offices. The
>> department is in talks with the Ministry of Social Justice and
>> Empowerment under the Government of India and an expert will be
>> appointed to conduct an audit of all police stations and submit a
>> report to the Ministry. The matter will be referred to the Ministry of
>> Home Affairs for administrative sanctions and approval.
>> Police sources told Newsline that the talks were initiated earlier
>> this month after the department felt the need to equip its offices
>> with facilities for the physically challenged.
>>
>> A senior police officer said: "The force is meant for the public and
>> our job is to deal with the public. For physically challenged persons,
>> we have decided that basic facilities need to be there to help them
>> approach us easily."
>>
>> The idea, police sources said, is to install physically
>> challenged-friendly toilets and ramps for disabled persons at all 181
>> police stations, 11 offices of deputy commissioners of police and
>> other unit offices. Police sources said the project, when approved,
>> will be facilitated under the Scheme for Implementation of Persons
>> with Disabilities Act.
>>
>> Sources said an expert has been identified and will be appointed by
>> the Ministry to conduct an audit of all the offices and prepare a
>> report to make buildings physically challenged-friendly.
>>
>> "The Public Works department (PWD) will be asked to prepare an
>> estimate of the cost of the entire project and submit the same to the
>> department and the Ministry. The Ministry of Social Justice and
>> Empowerment will then fund the project. The matter will also be
>> forwarded to the MHA for administrative approval and expenditure
>> sanctions," the officer said.
>>
>> There are 181 police stations in the city, of which 113 police
>> stations are running in their own buildings, 10 are under
>> construction, 22 are yet to be constructed and 36 are yet to get their
>> land.
>>
>> "The police stations that are being constructed and those that have
>> been approved and construction is slated to begin in the coming
>> months, have taken care of the aspect. These too be will be audited,"
>> the officer said.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Avinash Shahi
>> M.Phil Research Scholar
>> Centre for The Study of Law and Governance
>> Jawaharlal Nehru University
>> New Delhi India
>>
>> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility
>> of
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>>they  should have  done this long ago, fine better late then never
> hope this is not only for the dehli police  , and what I personly feel
> is that they should be a sensitivity training for all the govt
> employees so that no PWD is humiliated
>
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Re: [AI] Soon, facilities for the physically challenged at all police stations

2013-11-16 Thread rohit gowlikar
On 11/16/13, avinash shahi  wrote:
> This morning How come this surprising news...
> But certainly when PWD Act 1995 is about to be replaced perhaps this
> department has also felt the need that look, Disabled can also come to
> lodge FIR independently. So you have legal capacity, you know.
> undoubtedly this announcement is a welcome move.
> Hope they act on this promise soon.
> http://www.indianexpress.com/news/soon-facilities-for-the-physically-challenged-at-all-police-stations/1195525/0
>
> Delhi Police is now in the process of making arrangements for the
> physically challenged at all police stations and unit offices. The
> department is in talks with the Ministry of Social Justice and
> Empowerment under the Government of India and an expert will be
> appointed to conduct an audit of all police stations and submit a
> report to the Ministry. The matter will be referred to the Ministry of
> Home Affairs for administrative sanctions and approval.
> Police sources told Newsline that the talks were initiated earlier
> this month after the department felt the need to equip its offices
> with facilities for the physically challenged.
>
> A senior police officer said: "The force is meant for the public and
> our job is to deal with the public. For physically challenged persons,
> we have decided that basic facilities need to be there to help them
> approach us easily."
>
> The idea, police sources said, is to install physically
> challenged-friendly toilets and ramps for disabled persons at all 181
> police stations, 11 offices of deputy commissioners of police and
> other unit offices. Police sources said the project, when approved,
> will be facilitated under the Scheme for Implementation of Persons
> with Disabilities Act.
>
> Sources said an expert has been identified and will be appointed by
> the Ministry to conduct an audit of all the offices and prepare a
> report to make buildings physically challenged-friendly.
>
> "The Public Works department (PWD) will be asked to prepare an
> estimate of the cost of the entire project and submit the same to the
> department and the Ministry. The Ministry of Social Justice and
> Empowerment will then fund the project. The matter will also be
> forwarded to the MHA for administrative approval and expenditure
> sanctions," the officer said.
>
> There are 181 police stations in the city, of which 113 police
> stations are running in their own buildings, 10 are under
> construction, 22 are yet to be constructed and 36 are yet to get their
> land.
>
> "The police stations that are being constructed and those that have
> been approved and construction is slated to begin in the coming
> months, have taken care of the aspect. These too be will be audited,"
> the officer said.
>
>
> --
> Avinash Shahi
> M.Phil Research Scholar
> Centre for The Study of Law and Governance
> Jawaharlal Nehru University
> New Delhi India
>
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>they  should have  done this long ago, fine better late then never
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Re: [AI] Soon, facilities for the physically challenged at all police stations

2013-11-16 Thread avinash shahi
There are many politicians with disabilities.
And many will become soon... In fact they are temporarily abled, but
they don't accept.
Language for understanding disability needs to be changed, you know.
Who says only Wheel-chair user and stick holder is disabled? didn't
Sonia go for Cancer treatment toUS, they say.
On 11/17/13, maitreya shah  wrote:
> hi ,
> one more thing i will like to add .
> i believe ,that
> some or other PWDS and especially VI should enter into politics strongly .
> because in india if we want our rights,we need the help of politics .
> and once any PWD occupies a good position in politics,i think that our
> journey and efforts will be simpler .
> and ,will like to know about any such politician with any kind of disability
> .
>
> thanks
>
>
> On 11/16/13, avinash shahi  wrote:
>> Discussion is going in right direction where I wanted this to head.
>> You are right Grassroot movement was the base on which many
>> Institutes/NGOs as superstructures standing today. But sadly, the zeal
>> and commitment for snatching rights which is denied is missing today.
>> reasons can be many, but that zeal and fire to die for our due is on
>> decline. close-door discussions are supplementary methods and do not
>> address grassroot hardships face by fellow beings.
>> Moreover, In fact, In this eara where buzzword 'governance' is on
>> Everybody's mind, and planning commission is busy in collating
>> different vantage points for policy formulations and funds allocation
>> our Representatives lack so called expertees.
>> On 11/16/13, bhawani shankar verma  wrote:
>>> no avinash, todays NGOs are working more towards advocacy and less
>>> towards
>>> movement. i am not against the advocacy but, a movement is also
>>> required.
>>> it is too easy to file a case in the court but, it is dificult to
>>> collect
>>> the blind people from the entire country or state. a strong movement is
>>> still require for upliftment of blind people. you can only get order
>>> through
>>>
>>> advocacy. for implimentation it requires movement.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -
>>> From: "avinash shahi" 
>>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerningthe disabled." 
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 7:42 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Soon,facilities for the physically challenged at all
>>> police stations
>>>
>>>
>>>> Amen Vamshi Sir.
>>>> But politics of representation in such committees is very covert.
>>>> and question arises, do we have any credited Access Audit specialist
>>>> among our blind people fraternity?
>>>> This is the missing link of activism driven by Majority of NGOs
>>>> working for blind people  and they are yet to embrace activism which
>>>> drives policy-making.
>>>> On 11/16/13, Vamshi. G  wrote:
>>>>> HI,
>>>>>
>>>>> This is definitely a good move.  I think organisations like Swayam)I
>>>>> think) having people like SC Vasisht should be invited into such
>>>>> committees as they have worked on accessibility of public places in
>>>>> the past.  I don't know how things happen at that level.  But I think
>>>>> we  should volunteer to offer expertise on complete accessibility at
>>>>> this stage of the project rather than just criticise it after it has
>>>>> been completed.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/16/13, maitreya shah  wrote:
>>>>>> if i am not mistaken ,
>>>>>> it is persons with disabilities ...(PWDS!)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/16/13, Bhavya shah  wrote:
>>>>>>> What is pwds?
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11/16/13, avinash shahi  wrote:
>>>>>>>> well read Bhavani sir.
>>>>>>>> In fact, these Policy makers and auditors only know Ramps as
>>>>>>>> enabling
>>>>>>>> condition for disabled.
>>>>>>>> And accessibility of public places from vantage point of Visually
>>>>>>>> challenged is not on a priority.
>>>>>>>> I don't know any excess audit team where visually challenged is one
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> the members. Hope members will provid

Re: [AI] Soon, facilities for the physically challenged at all police stations

2013-11-16 Thread maitreya shah
hi ,
one more thing i will like to add .
i believe ,that
some or other PWDS and especially VI should enter into politics strongly .
because in india if we want our rights,we need the help of politics .
and once any PWD occupies a good position in politics,i think that our
journey and efforts will be simpler .
and ,will like to know about any such politician with any kind of disability .

thanks


On 11/16/13, avinash shahi  wrote:
> Discussion is going in right direction where I wanted this to head.
> You are right Grassroot movement was the base on which many
> Institutes/NGOs as superstructures standing today. But sadly, the zeal
> and commitment for snatching rights which is denied is missing today.
> reasons can be many, but that zeal and fire to die for our due is on
> decline. close-door discussions are supplementary methods and do not
> address grassroot hardships face by fellow beings.
> Moreover, In fact, In this eara where buzzword 'governance' is on
> Everybody's mind, and planning commission is busy in collating
> different vantage points for policy formulations and funds allocation
> our Representatives lack so called expertees.
> On 11/16/13, bhawani shankar verma  wrote:
>> no avinash, todays NGOs are working more towards advocacy and less
>> towards
>> movement. i am not against the advocacy but, a movement is also required.
>> it is too easy to file a case in the court but, it is dificult to collect
>> the blind people from the entire country or state. a strong movement is
>> still require for upliftment of blind people. you can only get order
>> through
>>
>> advocacy. for implimentation it requires movement.
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "avinash shahi" 
>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerningthe disabled." 
>> Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 7:42 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Soon,facilities for the physically challenged at all
>> police stations
>>
>>
>>> Amen Vamshi Sir.
>>> But politics of representation in such committees is very covert.
>>> and question arises, do we have any credited Access Audit specialist
>>> among our blind people fraternity?
>>> This is the missing link of activism driven by Majority of NGOs
>>> working for blind people  and they are yet to embrace activism which
>>> drives policy-making.
>>> On 11/16/13, Vamshi. G  wrote:
>>>> HI,
>>>>
>>>> This is definitely a good move.  I think organisations like Swayam)I
>>>> think) having people like SC Vasisht should be invited into such
>>>> committees as they have worked on accessibility of public places in
>>>> the past.  I don't know how things happen at that level.  But I think
>>>> we  should volunteer to offer expertise on complete accessibility at
>>>> this stage of the project rather than just criticise it after it has
>>>> been completed.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11/16/13, maitreya shah  wrote:
>>>>> if i am not mistaken ,
>>>>> it is persons with disabilities ...(PWDS!)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/16/13, Bhavya shah  wrote:
>>>>>> What is pwds?
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/16/13, avinash shahi  wrote:
>>>>>>> well read Bhavani sir.
>>>>>>> In fact, these Policy makers and auditors only know Ramps as
>>>>>>> enabling
>>>>>>> condition for disabled.
>>>>>>> And accessibility of public places from vantage point of Visually
>>>>>>> challenged is not on a priority.
>>>>>>> I don't know any excess audit team where visually challenged is one
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> the members. Hope members will provide some data on this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11/16/13, bhawani shankar verma  wrote:
>>>>>>>> great news! baby is crying for food and has been given lollypop.
>>>>>>>> toilets and ramps are the only requirement for pwdS
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>>>> From: avinash shahi
>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 11:21 AM
>>>>>>>> To: jnuvision ; accessindia
>>>>>>>> Cc: sayeverything
>>>>>>>> Subject: [AI] Soon,facilitie

Re: [AI] Soon, facilities for the physically challenged at all police stations

2013-11-16 Thread avinash shahi
Discussion is going in right direction where I wanted this to head.
You are right Grassroot movement was the base on which many
Institutes/NGOs as superstructures standing today. But sadly, the zeal
and commitment for snatching rights which is denied is missing today.
reasons can be many, but that zeal and fire to die for our due is on
decline. close-door discussions are supplementary methods and do not
address grassroot hardships face by fellow beings.
Moreover, In fact, In this eara where buzzword 'governance' is on
Everybody's mind, and planning commission is busy in collating
different vantage points for policy formulations and funds allocation
our Representatives lack so called expertees.
On 11/16/13, bhawani shankar verma  wrote:
> no avinash, todays NGOs are working more towards advocacy and less towards
> movement. i am not against the advocacy but, a movement is also required.
> it is too easy to file a case in the court but, it is dificult to collect
> the blind people from the entire country or state. a strong movement is
> still require for upliftment of blind people. you can only get order through
>
> advocacy. for implimentation it requires movement.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "avinash shahi" 
> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
> concerningthe disabled." 
> Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 7:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Soon,facilities for the physically challenged at all
> police stations
>
>
>> Amen Vamshi Sir.
>> But politics of representation in such committees is very covert.
>> and question arises, do we have any credited Access Audit specialist
>> among our blind people fraternity?
>> This is the missing link of activism driven by Majority of NGOs
>> working for blind people  and they are yet to embrace activism which
>> drives policy-making.
>> On 11/16/13, Vamshi. G  wrote:
>>> HI,
>>>
>>> This is definitely a good move.  I think organisations like Swayam)I
>>> think) having people like SC Vasisht should be invited into such
>>> committees as they have worked on accessibility of public places in
>>> the past.  I don't know how things happen at that level.  But I think
>>> we  should volunteer to offer expertise on complete accessibility at
>>> this stage of the project rather than just criticise it after it has
>>> been completed.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/16/13, maitreya shah  wrote:
>>>> if i am not mistaken ,
>>>> it is persons with disabilities ...(PWDS!)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11/16/13, Bhavya shah  wrote:
>>>>> What is pwds?
>>>>> Regards
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/16/13, avinash shahi  wrote:
>>>>>> well read Bhavani sir.
>>>>>> In fact, these Policy makers and auditors only know Ramps as enabling
>>>>>> condition for disabled.
>>>>>> And accessibility of public places from vantage point of Visually
>>>>>> challenged is not on a priority.
>>>>>> I don't know any excess audit team where visually challenged is one
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> the members. Hope members will provide some data on this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/16/13, bhawani shankar verma  wrote:
>>>>>>> great news! baby is crying for food and has been given lollypop.
>>>>>>> toilets and ramps are the only requirement for pwdS
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>>> From: avinash shahi
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 11:21 AM
>>>>>>> To: jnuvision ; accessindia
>>>>>>> Cc: sayeverything
>>>>>>> Subject: [AI] Soon,facilities for the physically challenged at all
>>>>>>> police
>>>>>>> stations
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This morning How come this surprising news...
>>>>>>> But certainly when PWD Act 1995 is about to be replaced perhaps this
>>>>>>> department has also felt the need that look, Disabled can also come
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> lodge FIR independently. So you have legal capacity, you know.
>>>>>>> undoubtedly this announcement is a welcome move.
>>>>>>> Hope they act on this promise soon.
>>>>>>> http://www.indianexpress.com/news/soon-facilities-for-the-physically-challenged-at-all-police-stations/11

Re: [AI] Soon, facilities for the physically challenged at all police stations

2013-11-16 Thread bhawani shankar verma
no avinash, todays NGOs are working more towards advocacy and less towards 
movement. i am not against the advocacy but, a movement is also required.
it is too easy to file a case in the court but, it is dificult to collect 
the blind people from the entire country or state. a strong movement is 
still require for upliftment of blind people. you can only get order through 
advocacy. for implimentation it requires movement.


- Original Message - 
From: "avinash shahi" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled." 

Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 7:42 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Soon,facilities for the physically challenged at all 
police stations




Amen Vamshi Sir.
But politics of representation in such committees is very covert.
and question arises, do we have any credited Access Audit specialist
among our blind people fraternity?
This is the missing link of activism driven by Majority of NGOs
working for blind people  and they are yet to embrace activism which
drives policy-making.
On 11/16/13, Vamshi. G  wrote:

HI,

This is definitely a good move.  I think organisations like Swayam)I
think) having people like SC Vasisht should be invited into such
committees as they have worked on accessibility of public places in
the past.  I don't know how things happen at that level.  But I think
we  should volunteer to offer expertise on complete accessibility at
this stage of the project rather than just criticise it after it has
been completed.



On 11/16/13, maitreya shah  wrote:

if i am not mistaken ,
it is persons with disabilities ...(PWDS!)


On 11/16/13, Bhavya shah  wrote:

What is pwds?
Regards

On 11/16/13, avinash shahi  wrote:

well read Bhavani sir.
In fact, these Policy makers and auditors only know Ramps as enabling
condition for disabled.
And accessibility of public places from vantage point of Visually
challenged is not on a priority.
I don't know any excess audit team where visually challenged is one of
the members. Hope members will provide some data on this.

On 11/16/13, bhawani shankar verma  wrote:

great news! baby is crying for food and has been given lollypop.
toilets and ramps are the only requirement for pwdS


-Original Message-
From: avinash shahi
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 11:21 AM
To: jnuvision ; accessindia
Cc: sayeverything
Subject: [AI] Soon,facilities for the physically challenged at all
police
stations

This morning How come this surprising news...
But certainly when PWD Act 1995 is about to be replaced perhaps this
department has also felt the need that look, Disabled can also come 
to

lodge FIR independently. So you have legal capacity, you know.
undoubtedly this announcement is a welcome move.
Hope they act on this promise soon.
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/soon-facilities-for-the-physically-challenged-at-all-police-stations/1195525/0

Delhi Police is now in the process of making arrangements for the
physically challenged at all police stations and unit offices. The
department is in talks with the Ministry of Social Justice and
Empowerment under the Government of India and an expert will be
appointed to conduct an audit of all police stations and submit a
report to the Ministry. The matter will be referred to the Ministry 
of

Home Affairs for administrative sanctions and approval.
Police sources told Newsline that the talks were initiated earlier
this month after the department felt the need to equip its offices
with facilities for the physically challenged.

A senior police officer said: "The force is meant for the public and
our job is to deal with the public. For physically challenged 
persons,

we have decided that basic facilities need to be there to help them
approach us easily."

The idea, police sources said, is to install physically
challenged-friendly toilets and ramps for disabled persons at all 181
police stations, 11 offices of deputy commissioners of police and
other unit offices. Police sources said the project, when approved,
will be facilitated under the Scheme for Implementation of Persons
with Disabilities Act.

Sources said an expert has been identified and will be appointed by
the Ministry to conduct an audit of all the offices and prepare a
report to make buildings physically challenged-friendly.

"The Public Works department (PWD) will be asked to prepare an
estimate of the cost of the entire project and submit the same to the
department and the Ministry. The Ministry of Social Justice and
Empowerment will then fund the project. The matter will also be
forwarded to the MHA for administrative approval and expenditure
sanctions," the officer said.

There are 181 police stations in the city, of which 113 police
stations are running in their own buildings, 10 are under
construction, 22 are yet to be constructed and 36 are yet to get 
their

land.

"The police stations that are being constructed and those that have
been app

Re: [AI] Soon, facilities for the physically challenged at all police stations

2013-11-16 Thread avinash shahi
Amen Vamshi Sir.
But politics of representation in such committees is very covert.
and question arises, do we have any credited Access Audit specialist
among our blind people fraternity?
This is the missing link of activism driven by Majority of NGOs
working for blind people  and they are yet to embrace activism which
drives policy-making.
On 11/16/13, Vamshi. G  wrote:
> HI,
>
> This is definitely a good move.  I think organisations like Swayam)I
> think) having people like SC Vasisht should be invited into such
> committees as they have worked on accessibility of public places in
> the past.  I don't know how things happen at that level.  But I think
> we  should volunteer to offer expertise on complete accessibility at
> this stage of the project rather than just criticise it after it has
> been completed.
>
>
>
> On 11/16/13, maitreya shah  wrote:
>> if i am not mistaken ,
>> it is persons with disabilities ...(PWDS!)
>>
>>
>> On 11/16/13, Bhavya shah  wrote:
>>> What is pwds?
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> On 11/16/13, avinash shahi  wrote:
>>>> well read Bhavani sir.
>>>> In fact, these Policy makers and auditors only know Ramps as enabling
>>>> condition for disabled.
>>>> And accessibility of public places from vantage point of Visually
>>>> challenged is not on a priority.
>>>> I don't know any excess audit team where visually challenged is one of
>>>> the members. Hope members will provide some data on this.
>>>>
>>>> On 11/16/13, bhawani shankar verma  wrote:
>>>>> great news! baby is crying for food and has been given lollypop.
>>>>> toilets and ramps are the only requirement for pwdS
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: avinash shahi
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 11:21 AM
>>>>> To: jnuvision ; accessindia
>>>>> Cc: sayeverything
>>>>> Subject: [AI] Soon,facilities for the physically challenged at all
>>>>> police
>>>>> stations
>>>>>
>>>>> This morning How come this surprising news...
>>>>> But certainly when PWD Act 1995 is about to be replaced perhaps this
>>>>> department has also felt the need that look, Disabled can also come to
>>>>> lodge FIR independently. So you have legal capacity, you know.
>>>>> undoubtedly this announcement is a welcome move.
>>>>> Hope they act on this promise soon.
>>>>> http://www.indianexpress.com/news/soon-facilities-for-the-physically-challenged-at-all-police-stations/1195525/0
>>>>>
>>>>> Delhi Police is now in the process of making arrangements for the
>>>>> physically challenged at all police stations and unit offices. The
>>>>> department is in talks with the Ministry of Social Justice and
>>>>> Empowerment under the Government of India and an expert will be
>>>>> appointed to conduct an audit of all police stations and submit a
>>>>> report to the Ministry. The matter will be referred to the Ministry of
>>>>> Home Affairs for administrative sanctions and approval.
>>>>> Police sources told Newsline that the talks were initiated earlier
>>>>> this month after the department felt the need to equip its offices
>>>>> with facilities for the physically challenged.
>>>>>
>>>>> A senior police officer said: "The force is meant for the public and
>>>>> our job is to deal with the public. For physically challenged persons,
>>>>> we have decided that basic facilities need to be there to help them
>>>>> approach us easily."
>>>>>
>>>>> The idea, police sources said, is to install physically
>>>>> challenged-friendly toilets and ramps for disabled persons at all 181
>>>>> police stations, 11 offices of deputy commissioners of police and
>>>>> other unit offices. Police sources said the project, when approved,
>>>>> will be facilitated under the Scheme for Implementation of Persons
>>>>> with Disabilities Act.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sources said an expert has been identified and will be appointed by
>>>>> the Ministry to conduct an audit of all the offices and prepare a
>>>>> report to make buildings physically challenged-friendly.
>>>>>
>>>>> "The Public Works department (PWD) will be asked to prepare 

Re: [AI] Soon, facilities for the physically challenged at all police stations

2013-11-16 Thread Vamshi. G
HI,

This is definitely a good move.  I think organisations like Swayam)I
think) having people like SC Vasisht should be invited into such
committees as they have worked on accessibility of public places in
the past.  I don't know how things happen at that level.  But I think
we  should volunteer to offer expertise on complete accessibility at
this stage of the project rather than just criticise it after it has
been completed.



On 11/16/13, maitreya shah  wrote:
> if i am not mistaken ,
> it is persons with disabilities ...(PWDS!)
>
>
> On 11/16/13, Bhavya shah  wrote:
>> What is pwds?
>> Regards
>>
>> On 11/16/13, avinash shahi  wrote:
>>> well read Bhavani sir.
>>> In fact, these Policy makers and auditors only know Ramps as enabling
>>> condition for disabled.
>>> And accessibility of public places from vantage point of Visually
>>> challenged is not on a priority.
>>> I don't know any excess audit team where visually challenged is one of
>>> the members. Hope members will provide some data on this.
>>>
>>> On 11/16/13, bhawani shankar verma  wrote:
>>>> great news! baby is crying for food and has been given lollypop.
>>>> toilets and ramps are the only requirement for pwdS
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-
>>>> From: avinash shahi
>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 11:21 AM
>>>> To: jnuvision ; accessindia
>>>> Cc: sayeverything
>>>> Subject: [AI] Soon,facilities for the physically challenged at all
>>>> police
>>>> stations
>>>>
>>>> This morning How come this surprising news...
>>>> But certainly when PWD Act 1995 is about to be replaced perhaps this
>>>> department has also felt the need that look, Disabled can also come to
>>>> lodge FIR independently. So you have legal capacity, you know.
>>>> undoubtedly this announcement is a welcome move.
>>>> Hope they act on this promise soon.
>>>> http://www.indianexpress.com/news/soon-facilities-for-the-physically-challenged-at-all-police-stations/1195525/0
>>>>
>>>> Delhi Police is now in the process of making arrangements for the
>>>> physically challenged at all police stations and unit offices. The
>>>> department is in talks with the Ministry of Social Justice and
>>>> Empowerment under the Government of India and an expert will be
>>>> appointed to conduct an audit of all police stations and submit a
>>>> report to the Ministry. The matter will be referred to the Ministry of
>>>> Home Affairs for administrative sanctions and approval.
>>>> Police sources told Newsline that the talks were initiated earlier
>>>> this month after the department felt the need to equip its offices
>>>> with facilities for the physically challenged.
>>>>
>>>> A senior police officer said: "The force is meant for the public and
>>>> our job is to deal with the public. For physically challenged persons,
>>>> we have decided that basic facilities need to be there to help them
>>>> approach us easily."
>>>>
>>>> The idea, police sources said, is to install physically
>>>> challenged-friendly toilets and ramps for disabled persons at all 181
>>>> police stations, 11 offices of deputy commissioners of police and
>>>> other unit offices. Police sources said the project, when approved,
>>>> will be facilitated under the Scheme for Implementation of Persons
>>>> with Disabilities Act.
>>>>
>>>> Sources said an expert has been identified and will be appointed by
>>>> the Ministry to conduct an audit of all the offices and prepare a
>>>> report to make buildings physically challenged-friendly.
>>>>
>>>> "The Public Works department (PWD) will be asked to prepare an
>>>> estimate of the cost of the entire project and submit the same to the
>>>> department and the Ministry. The Ministry of Social Justice and
>>>> Empowerment will then fund the project. The matter will also be
>>>> forwarded to the MHA for administrative approval and expenditure
>>>> sanctions," the officer said.
>>>>
>>>> There are 181 police stations in the city, of which 113 police
>>>> stations are running in their own buildings, 10 are under
>>>> construction, 22 are yet to be constructed and 36 are yet to get their
>>>> land.
>>>>
>>>>

Re: [AI] Soon, facilities for the physically challenged at all police stations

2013-11-16 Thread maitreya shah
if i am not mistaken ,
it is persons with disabilities ...(PWDS!)


On 11/16/13, Bhavya shah  wrote:
> What is pwds?
> Regards
>
> On 11/16/13, avinash shahi  wrote:
>> well read Bhavani sir.
>> In fact, these Policy makers and auditors only know Ramps as enabling
>> condition for disabled.
>> And accessibility of public places from vantage point of Visually
>> challenged is not on a priority.
>> I don't know any excess audit team where visually challenged is one of
>> the members. Hope members will provide some data on this.
>>
>> On 11/16/13, bhawani shankar verma  wrote:
>>> great news! baby is crying for food and has been given lollypop.
>>> toilets and ramps are the only requirement for pwdS
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: avinash shahi
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 11:21 AM
>>> To: jnuvision ; accessindia
>>> Cc: sayeverything
>>> Subject: [AI] Soon,facilities for the physically challenged at all
>>> police
>>> stations
>>>
>>> This morning How come this surprising news...
>>> But certainly when PWD Act 1995 is about to be replaced perhaps this
>>> department has also felt the need that look, Disabled can also come to
>>> lodge FIR independently. So you have legal capacity, you know.
>>> undoubtedly this announcement is a welcome move.
>>> Hope they act on this promise soon.
>>> http://www.indianexpress.com/news/soon-facilities-for-the-physically-challenged-at-all-police-stations/1195525/0
>>>
>>> Delhi Police is now in the process of making arrangements for the
>>> physically challenged at all police stations and unit offices. The
>>> department is in talks with the Ministry of Social Justice and
>>> Empowerment under the Government of India and an expert will be
>>> appointed to conduct an audit of all police stations and submit a
>>> report to the Ministry. The matter will be referred to the Ministry of
>>> Home Affairs for administrative sanctions and approval.
>>> Police sources told Newsline that the talks were initiated earlier
>>> this month after the department felt the need to equip its offices
>>> with facilities for the physically challenged.
>>>
>>> A senior police officer said: "The force is meant for the public and
>>> our job is to deal with the public. For physically challenged persons,
>>> we have decided that basic facilities need to be there to help them
>>> approach us easily."
>>>
>>> The idea, police sources said, is to install physically
>>> challenged-friendly toilets and ramps for disabled persons at all 181
>>> police stations, 11 offices of deputy commissioners of police and
>>> other unit offices. Police sources said the project, when approved,
>>> will be facilitated under the Scheme for Implementation of Persons
>>> with Disabilities Act.
>>>
>>> Sources said an expert has been identified and will be appointed by
>>> the Ministry to conduct an audit of all the offices and prepare a
>>> report to make buildings physically challenged-friendly.
>>>
>>> "The Public Works department (PWD) will be asked to prepare an
>>> estimate of the cost of the entire project and submit the same to the
>>> department and the Ministry. The Ministry of Social Justice and
>>> Empowerment will then fund the project. The matter will also be
>>> forwarded to the MHA for administrative approval and expenditure
>>> sanctions," the officer said.
>>>
>>> There are 181 police stations in the city, of which 113 police
>>> stations are running in their own buildings, 10 are under
>>> construction, 22 are yet to be constructed and 36 are yet to get their
>>> land.
>>>
>>> "The police stations that are being constructed and those that have
>>> been approved and construction is slated to begin in the coming
>>> months, have taken care of the aspect. These too be will be audited,"
>>> the officer said.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Avinash Shahi
>>> M.Phil Research Scholar
>>> Centre for The Study of Law and Governance
>>> Jawaharlal Nehru University
>>> New Delhi India
>>>
>>> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility
>>> of
>>> mobile phones / Tabs on:
>>> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in
>>>
>>>
>>&

Re: [AI] Soon, facilities for the physically challenged at all police stations

2013-11-16 Thread Bhavya shah
What is pwds?
Regards

On 11/16/13, avinash shahi  wrote:
> well read Bhavani sir.
> In fact, these Policy makers and auditors only know Ramps as enabling
> condition for disabled.
> And accessibility of public places from vantage point of Visually
> challenged is not on a priority.
> I don't know any excess audit team where visually challenged is one of
> the members. Hope members will provide some data on this.
>
> On 11/16/13, bhawani shankar verma  wrote:
>> great news! baby is crying for food and has been given lollypop.
>> toilets and ramps are the only requirement for pwdS
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: avinash shahi
>> Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 11:21 AM
>> To: jnuvision ; accessindia
>> Cc: sayeverything
>> Subject: [AI] Soon,facilities for the physically challenged at all police
>> stations
>>
>> This morning How come this surprising news...
>> But certainly when PWD Act 1995 is about to be replaced perhaps this
>> department has also felt the need that look, Disabled can also come to
>> lodge FIR independently. So you have legal capacity, you know.
>> undoubtedly this announcement is a welcome move.
>> Hope they act on this promise soon.
>> http://www.indianexpress.com/news/soon-facilities-for-the-physically-challenged-at-all-police-stations/1195525/0
>>
>> Delhi Police is now in the process of making arrangements for the
>> physically challenged at all police stations and unit offices. The
>> department is in talks with the Ministry of Social Justice and
>> Empowerment under the Government of India and an expert will be
>> appointed to conduct an audit of all police stations and submit a
>> report to the Ministry. The matter will be referred to the Ministry of
>> Home Affairs for administrative sanctions and approval.
>> Police sources told Newsline that the talks were initiated earlier
>> this month after the department felt the need to equip its offices
>> with facilities for the physically challenged.
>>
>> A senior police officer said: "The force is meant for the public and
>> our job is to deal with the public. For physically challenged persons,
>> we have decided that basic facilities need to be there to help them
>> approach us easily."
>>
>> The idea, police sources said, is to install physically
>> challenged-friendly toilets and ramps for disabled persons at all 181
>> police stations, 11 offices of deputy commissioners of police and
>> other unit offices. Police sources said the project, when approved,
>> will be facilitated under the Scheme for Implementation of Persons
>> with Disabilities Act.
>>
>> Sources said an expert has been identified and will be appointed by
>> the Ministry to conduct an audit of all the offices and prepare a
>> report to make buildings physically challenged-friendly.
>>
>> "The Public Works department (PWD) will be asked to prepare an
>> estimate of the cost of the entire project and submit the same to the
>> department and the Ministry. The Ministry of Social Justice and
>> Empowerment will then fund the project. The matter will also be
>> forwarded to the MHA for administrative approval and expenditure
>> sanctions," the officer said.
>>
>> There are 181 police stations in the city, of which 113 police
>> stations are running in their own buildings, 10 are under
>> construction, 22 are yet to be constructed and 36 are yet to get their
>> land.
>>
>> "The police stations that are being constructed and those that have
>> been approved and construction is slated to begin in the coming
>> months, have taken care of the aspect. These too be will be audited,"
>> the officer said.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Avinash Shahi
>> M.Phil Research Scholar
>> Centre for The Study of Law and Governance
>> Jawaharlal Nehru University
>> New Delhi India
>>
>> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility
>> of
>> mobile phones / Tabs on:
>> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in
>>
>>
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Re: [AI] Soon, facilities for the physically challenged at all police stations

2013-11-15 Thread avinash shahi
well read Bhavani sir.
In fact, these Policy makers and auditors only know Ramps as enabling
condition for disabled.
And accessibility of public places from vantage point of Visually
challenged is not on a priority.
I don't know any excess audit team where visually challenged is one of
the members. Hope members will provide some data on this.

On 11/16/13, bhawani shankar verma  wrote:
> great news! baby is crying for food and has been given lollypop.
> toilets and ramps are the only requirement for pwdS
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: avinash shahi
> Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 11:21 AM
> To: jnuvision ; accessindia
> Cc: sayeverything
> Subject: [AI] Soon,facilities for the physically challenged at all police
> stations
>
> This morning How come this surprising news...
> But certainly when PWD Act 1995 is about to be replaced perhaps this
> department has also felt the need that look, Disabled can also come to
> lodge FIR independently. So you have legal capacity, you know.
> undoubtedly this announcement is a welcome move.
> Hope they act on this promise soon.
> http://www.indianexpress.com/news/soon-facilities-for-the-physically-challenged-at-all-police-stations/1195525/0
>
> Delhi Police is now in the process of making arrangements for the
> physically challenged at all police stations and unit offices. The
> department is in talks with the Ministry of Social Justice and
> Empowerment under the Government of India and an expert will be
> appointed to conduct an audit of all police stations and submit a
> report to the Ministry. The matter will be referred to the Ministry of
> Home Affairs for administrative sanctions and approval.
> Police sources told Newsline that the talks were initiated earlier
> this month after the department felt the need to equip its offices
> with facilities for the physically challenged.
>
> A senior police officer said: "The force is meant for the public and
> our job is to deal with the public. For physically challenged persons,
> we have decided that basic facilities need to be there to help them
> approach us easily."
>
> The idea, police sources said, is to install physically
> challenged-friendly toilets and ramps for disabled persons at all 181
> police stations, 11 offices of deputy commissioners of police and
> other unit offices. Police sources said the project, when approved,
> will be facilitated under the Scheme for Implementation of Persons
> with Disabilities Act.
>
> Sources said an expert has been identified and will be appointed by
> the Ministry to conduct an audit of all the offices and prepare a
> report to make buildings physically challenged-friendly.
>
> "The Public Works department (PWD) will be asked to prepare an
> estimate of the cost of the entire project and submit the same to the
> department and the Ministry. The Ministry of Social Justice and
> Empowerment will then fund the project. The matter will also be
> forwarded to the MHA for administrative approval and expenditure
> sanctions," the officer said.
>
> There are 181 police stations in the city, of which 113 police
> stations are running in their own buildings, 10 are under
> construction, 22 are yet to be constructed and 36 are yet to get their
> land.
>
> "The police stations that are being constructed and those that have
> been approved and construction is slated to begin in the coming
> months, have taken care of the aspect. These too be will be audited,"
> the officer said.
>
>
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> Jawaharlal Nehru University
> New Delhi India
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Re: [AI] Soon, facilities for the physically challenged at all police stations

2013-11-15 Thread bhawani shankar verma

great news! baby is crying for food and has been given lollypop.
toilets and ramps are the only requirement for pwdS


-Original Message- 
From: avinash shahi

Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 11:21 AM
To: jnuvision ; accessindia
Cc: sayeverything
Subject: [AI] Soon,facilities for the physically challenged at all police 
stations


This morning How come this surprising news...
But certainly when PWD Act 1995 is about to be replaced perhaps this
department has also felt the need that look, Disabled can also come to
lodge FIR independently. So you have legal capacity, you know.
undoubtedly this announcement is a welcome move.
Hope they act on this promise soon.
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/soon-facilities-for-the-physically-challenged-at-all-police-stations/1195525/0

Delhi Police is now in the process of making arrangements for the
physically challenged at all police stations and unit offices. The
department is in talks with the Ministry of Social Justice and
Empowerment under the Government of India and an expert will be
appointed to conduct an audit of all police stations and submit a
report to the Ministry. The matter will be referred to the Ministry of
Home Affairs for administrative sanctions and approval.
Police sources told Newsline that the talks were initiated earlier
this month after the department felt the need to equip its offices
with facilities for the physically challenged.

A senior police officer said: "The force is meant for the public and
our job is to deal with the public. For physically challenged persons,
we have decided that basic facilities need to be there to help them
approach us easily."

The idea, police sources said, is to install physically
challenged-friendly toilets and ramps for disabled persons at all 181
police stations, 11 offices of deputy commissioners of police and
other unit offices. Police sources said the project, when approved,
will be facilitated under the Scheme for Implementation of Persons
with Disabilities Act.

Sources said an expert has been identified and will be appointed by
the Ministry to conduct an audit of all the offices and prepare a
report to make buildings physically challenged-friendly.

"The Public Works department (PWD) will be asked to prepare an
estimate of the cost of the entire project and submit the same to the
department and the Ministry. The Ministry of Social Justice and
Empowerment will then fund the project. The matter will also be
forwarded to the MHA for administrative approval and expenditure
sanctions," the officer said.

There are 181 police stations in the city, of which 113 police
stations are running in their own buildings, 10 are under
construction, 22 are yet to be constructed and 36 are yet to get their
land.

"The police stations that are being constructed and those that have
been approved and construction is slated to begin in the coming
months, have taken care of the aspect. These too be will be audited,"
the officer said.


--
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M.Phil Research Scholar
Centre for The Study of Law and Governance
Jawaharlal Nehru University
New Delhi India

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Re: [AI] Soon, facilities for the physically challenged at all police stations

2013-11-15 Thread shyam sharma
Great news in deed but I think gonna take so much time for the dream
to come true.

On 11/16/13, avinash shahi  wrote:
> This morning How come this surprising news...
> But certainly when PWD Act 1995 is about to be replaced perhaps this
> department has also felt the need that look, Disabled can also come to
> lodge FIR independently. So you have legal capacity, you know.
> undoubtedly this announcement is a welcome move.
> Hope they act on this promise soon.
> http://www.indianexpress.com/news/soon-facilities-for-the-physically-challenged-at-all-police-stations/1195525/0
>
> Delhi Police is now in the process of making arrangements for the
> physically challenged at all police stations and unit offices. The
> department is in talks with the Ministry of Social Justice and
> Empowerment under the Government of India and an expert will be
> appointed to conduct an audit of all police stations and submit a
> report to the Ministry. The matter will be referred to the Ministry of
> Home Affairs for administrative sanctions and approval.
> Police sources told Newsline that the talks were initiated earlier
> this month after the department felt the need to equip its offices
> with facilities for the physically challenged.
>
> A senior police officer said: "The force is meant for the public and
> our job is to deal with the public. For physically challenged persons,
> we have decided that basic facilities need to be there to help them
> approach us easily."
>
> The idea, police sources said, is to install physically
> challenged-friendly toilets and ramps for disabled persons at all 181
> police stations, 11 offices of deputy commissioners of police and
> other unit offices. Police sources said the project, when approved,
> will be facilitated under the Scheme for Implementation of Persons
> with Disabilities Act.
>
> Sources said an expert has been identified and will be appointed by
> the Ministry to conduct an audit of all the offices and prepare a
> report to make buildings physically challenged-friendly.
>
> "The Public Works department (PWD) will be asked to prepare an
> estimate of the cost of the entire project and submit the same to the
> department and the Ministry. The Ministry of Social Justice and
> Empowerment will then fund the project. The matter will also be
> forwarded to the MHA for administrative approval and expenditure
> sanctions," the officer said.
>
> There are 181 police stations in the city, of which 113 police
> stations are running in their own buildings, 10 are under
> construction, 22 are yet to be constructed and 36 are yet to get their
> land.
>
> "The police stations that are being constructed and those that have
> been approved and construction is slated to begin in the coming
> months, have taken care of the aspect. These too be will be audited,"
> the officer said.
>
>
> --
> Avinash Shahi
> M.Phil Research Scholar
> Centre for The Study of Law and Governance
> Jawaharlal Nehru University
> New Delhi India
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[AI] Soon, facilities for the physically challenged at all police stations

2013-11-15 Thread avinash shahi
This morning How come this surprising news...
But certainly when PWD Act 1995 is about to be replaced perhaps this
department has also felt the need that look, Disabled can also come to
lodge FIR independently. So you have legal capacity, you know.
undoubtedly this announcement is a welcome move.
Hope they act on this promise soon.
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/soon-facilities-for-the-physically-challenged-at-all-police-stations/1195525/0

Delhi Police is now in the process of making arrangements for the
physically challenged at all police stations and unit offices. The
department is in talks with the Ministry of Social Justice and
Empowerment under the Government of India and an expert will be
appointed to conduct an audit of all police stations and submit a
report to the Ministry. The matter will be referred to the Ministry of
Home Affairs for administrative sanctions and approval.
Police sources told Newsline that the talks were initiated earlier
this month after the department felt the need to equip its offices
with facilities for the physically challenged.

A senior police officer said: "The force is meant for the public and
our job is to deal with the public. For physically challenged persons,
we have decided that basic facilities need to be there to help them
approach us easily."

The idea, police sources said, is to install physically
challenged-friendly toilets and ramps for disabled persons at all 181
police stations, 11 offices of deputy commissioners of police and
other unit offices. Police sources said the project, when approved,
will be facilitated under the Scheme for Implementation of Persons
with Disabilities Act.

Sources said an expert has been identified and will be appointed by
the Ministry to conduct an audit of all the offices and prepare a
report to make buildings physically challenged-friendly.

"The Public Works department (PWD) will be asked to prepare an
estimate of the cost of the entire project and submit the same to the
department and the Ministry. The Ministry of Social Justice and
Empowerment will then fund the project. The matter will also be
forwarded to the MHA for administrative approval and expenditure
sanctions," the officer said.

There are 181 police stations in the city, of which 113 police
stations are running in their own buildings, 10 are under
construction, 22 are yet to be constructed and 36 are yet to get their
land.

"The police stations that are being constructed and those that have
been approved and construction is slated to begin in the coming
months, have taken care of the aspect. These too be will be audited,"
the officer said.


-- 
Avinash Shahi
M.Phil Research Scholar
Centre for The Study of Law and Governance
Jawaharlal Nehru University
New Delhi India

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