Re: [AI] Taking the first step towards addressing inaccessible point of sale terminals
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Re: [AI] Taking the first step towards addressing inaccessible point of sale terminals
Thanks for the confirmation George. I'll send a follow up e-mail and am hoping everyone else does the same. Pranav Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] Taking the first step towards addressing inaccessible point of sale terminals
Of course! -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Rajesh Hardayaldas Asudani Sent: Friday, February 7, 2020 9:57 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Taking the first step towards addressing inaccessible point of sale terminals Yes. Even nothing should be inside it which is not accessible. Laugh. सादर / With thanks & Regards राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India नागपुर Nagpur 0712 2806846 President VIBEWA Co-Moderator VIB-India President DARE-Disability Advocacy, Research and Education A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and laughter -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of George Abraham Sent: 07 February 2020 07:09 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI] Taking the first step towards addressing inaccessible point of sale terminals We should continue putting pressure on the RBI with our mail. RBI needs to realise that nothing should be out in the public domain that is inaccessible. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Pranav Lal Sent: Friday, February 7, 2020 6:55 AM To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI] Taking the first step towards addressing inaccessible point of sale terminals Thanks George. Do we continue sending e-mail to the RBI or do we leave things to the courts so that action is consolidated? Pranav Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.noclick_com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.noclick_in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.noclick_com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.noclick_in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Caution: The Reserve Bank of India never sends mails, SMSs or makes calls asking for personal information such as your bank account details, passwords, etc. It never keeps or offers funds to anyone. Please do not respond in any manner to such offers, however official or attractive they may look. Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use, review, distribution, printing or copying of the information contained in this e-mail message and/or attachments to it are strictly prohibited. If you have received this email by error, please notify us by return e-mail or telephone and immediately and permanently delete the message and any attachments. The recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The Reserve Bank of India accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.or
Re: [AI] Taking the first step towards addressing inaccessible point of sale terminals
Hi I fully endorse. Knocking the door of the judiciary is not an option for all. However, dropping a mail for our cause is certainly doable. Firstly it is important to take ownership in working for the cause individually. NGO's should be also pressurised to take up issues which matters for us in large. It is not wise for individuals to wait for NGO's to do something for us. When we are empowered, we should exercise it. Harish. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of George Abraham Sent: 07 February 2020 07:09 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI] Taking the first step towards addressing inaccessible point of sale terminals We should continue putting pressure on the RBI with our mail. RBI needs to realise that nothing should be out in the public domain that is inaccessible. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Pranav Lal Sent: Friday, February 7, 2020 6:55 AM To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI] Taking the first step towards addressing inaccessible point of sale terminals Thanks George. Do we continue sending e-mail to the RBI or do we leave things to the courts so that action is consolidated? Pranav Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.noclick_com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.noclick_in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.noclick_com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.noclick_in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Caution: The Reserve Bank of India never sends mails, SMSs or makes calls asking for personal information such as your bank account details, passwords, etc. It never keeps or offers funds to anyone. Please do not respond in any manner to such offers, however official or attractive they may look. Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use, review, distribution, printing or copying of the information contained in this e-mail message and/or attachments to it are strictly prohibited. If you have received this email by error, please notify us by return e-mail or telephone and immediately and permanently delete the message and any attachments. The recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The Reserve Bank of India accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] Taking the first step towards addressing inaccessible point of sale terminals
Yes. Even nothing should be inside it which is not accessible. Laugh. सादर / With thanks & Regards राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India नागपुर Nagpur 0712 2806846 President VIBEWA Co-Moderator VIB-India President DARE-Disability Advocacy, Research and Education A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and laughter -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of George Abraham Sent: 07 February 2020 07:09 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI] Taking the first step towards addressing inaccessible point of sale terminals We should continue putting pressure on the RBI with our mail. RBI needs to realise that nothing should be out in the public domain that is inaccessible. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Pranav Lal Sent: Friday, February 7, 2020 6:55 AM To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI] Taking the first step towards addressing inaccessible point of sale terminals Thanks George. Do we continue sending e-mail to the RBI or do we leave things to the courts so that action is consolidated? Pranav Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.noclick_com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.noclick_in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.noclick_com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.noclick_in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Caution: The Reserve Bank of India never sends mails, SMSs or makes calls asking for personal information such as your bank account details, passwords, etc. It never keeps or offers funds to anyone. Please do not respond in any manner to such offers, however official or attractive they may look. Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use, review, distribution, printing or copying of the information contained in this e-mail message and/or attachments to it are strictly prohibited. If you have received this email by error, please notify us by return e-mail or telephone and immediately and permanently delete the message and any attachments. The recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The Reserve Bank of India accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] Taking the first step towards addressing inaccessible point of sale terminals
We should continue putting pressure on the RBI with our mail. RBI needs to realise that nothing should be out in the public domain that is inaccessible. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Pranav Lal Sent: Friday, February 7, 2020 6:55 AM To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI] Taking the first step towards addressing inaccessible point of sale terminals Thanks George. Do we continue sending e-mail to the RBI or do we leave things to the courts so that action is consolidated? Pranav Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] Taking the first step towards addressing inaccessible point of sale terminals
Thanks George. Do we continue sending e-mail to the RBI or do we leave things to the courts so that action is consolidated? Pranav Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] Taking the first step towards addressing inaccessible point of sale terminals
Vasu, I wrote to gover...@rbi.org.in Pranav Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] Taking the first step towards addressing inaccessible point of sale terminals
Shankar, I believe there is an Indian institute of standards who certify what electronics can be sold in India. I suspect the certification is voluntary but I am not certain. I would target them for ensuring accessibility of such products. I have not heard back from the RBI so far. I am open to suggestions. Pranav Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] Taking the first step towards addressing inaccessible point of sale terminals
Friends, Inaccessibility of such devices is a growing concern for all of us. And worst part is the solutions given are without proper understanding our requirements. The latest example being RBI Mani app. We will have to continue our struggle tirelessly. All the best. C. B. Kulkarni Mobile 8080742446 On February 5, 2020 3:20:13 PM "George Abraham" wrote: Well this matter is in court at the moment. I have filed a case in the Delhi HC. The RBI and the Govt. are the respondents. The next hearing is on the 16th of April. I had the same experience at the Petrol station recently. Spoke to one of the POS manufacturers, they acknowledged the problem. They say that this problem did not occur to them. A typical case of us persons with blindness being totally ignored. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Srinivasu Chakravarthula Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2020 10:05 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Taking the first step towards addressing inaccessible point of sale terminals Pranav, Thanks for initiating this. I'm sure they would not go away from touch based POS terminals and it's practically time consuming to enable accessibility features if provided in the settings; instead they should provide one physical button on terminal through which accessibility features should be enabled when a consumer with blindness is using terminal and can be turned off with same switch once transaction is completed. What email address have your written to? so that more people can write to them to seek attention. Best, Srinivasu Regards, Srinivasu Chakravarthula, CPWA Twitter: http://twitter.com/CSrinivasu/ Website: http://www.srinivasu.org | http://serveominclusion.com Let's create an inclusive web! Senior Accessibility Program Manager, Watermark Inc Hon. Joint Secretary, The National Association for the Blind, Karnataka Branch On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 6:17 AM Pranav Lal wrote: Hi all, I have taken the first step to addressing the situation with inaccessible point of sale terminals by writing to the rbi. See the e-mail I sent. Subject: Need urgent addressing of the situation with inaccessible touch screen point of sale terminals Dear Sir, In the past 3 months, there has been a proliferation of touch screen point of sale terminals. This is causing a massive problem for blind users as well as anyone else who is partly sighted. The key pad is a touch screen where there is no speech feedback. The blind user does not have any buttons to feel therefore cannot memorize the keys. There is no independent way for a blind user to enter her credit card pin to authorize the card when initiating a transaction. In older point of sale terminals, there was a push button telephone key pad which was easy to operate where blind users could enter their pin codes independently because the telephone key pad is a standard bit of equipment and they know the layout and can feel the buttons before pressing them. As a community, we welcome progress such as the new point of sale systems where one only needs to swipe the card. However, inaccessible touch screens need to be addressed urgently. There are several solutions available which make these terminals speak and are used in other countries such as the USA. Could you please direct all merchants to install accessible POS terminals? We are happy to work with the RBI and look forward to constructive dialogue. Pranav Lal Pranav Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org .in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to a
Re: [AI] Taking the first step towards addressing inaccessible point of sale terminals
Well this matter is in court at the moment. I have filed a case in the Delhi HC. The RBI and the Govt. are the respondents. The next hearing is on the 16th of April. I had the same experience at the Petrol station recently. Spoke to one of the POS manufacturers, they acknowledged the problem. They say that this problem did not occur to them. A typical case of us persons with blindness being totally ignored. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Srinivasu Chakravarthula Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2020 10:05 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Taking the first step towards addressing inaccessible point of sale terminals Pranav, Thanks for initiating this. I'm sure they would not go away from touch based POS terminals and it's practically time consuming to enable accessibility features if provided in the settings; instead they should provide one physical button on terminal through which accessibility features should be enabled when a consumer with blindness is using terminal and can be turned off with same switch once transaction is completed. What email address have your written to? so that more people can write to them to seek attention. Best, Srinivasu Regards, Srinivasu Chakravarthula, CPWA Twitter: http://twitter.com/CSrinivasu/ Website: http://www.srinivasu.org | http://serveominclusion.com Let's create an inclusive web! Senior Accessibility Program Manager, Watermark Inc Hon. Joint Secretary, The National Association for the Blind, Karnataka Branch On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 6:17 AM Pranav Lal wrote: > Hi all, > > I have taken the first step to addressing the situation with > inaccessible point of sale terminals by writing to the rbi. See the e-mail I sent. > Subject: Need urgent addressing of the situation with inaccessible > touch screen point of sale terminals Dear Sir, > > In the past 3 months, there has been a proliferation of touch screen > point of sale terminals. This is causing a massive problem for blind > users as well as anyone else who is partly sighted. The key pad is a > touch screen where there is no speech feedback. The blind user does > not have any buttons to feel therefore cannot memorize the keys. There > is no independent way for a blind user to enter her credit card pin to > authorize the card when initiating a transaction. In older point of > sale terminals, there was a push button telephone key pad which was > easy to operate where blind users could enter their pin codes > independently because the telephone key pad is a standard bit of > equipment and they know the layout and can feel the buttons before > pressing them. > As a community, we welcome progress such as the new point of sale > systems where one only needs to swipe the card. However, inaccessible > touch screens need to be addressed urgently. There are several > solutions available which make these terminals speak and are used in other countries such as the USA. > > Could you please direct all merchants to install accessible POS terminals? > > We are happy to work with the RBI and look forward to constructive > dialogue. > Pranav Lal > > Pranav > > > > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org > .in > > > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking > of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its > veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the > mails sent through this mailing list.. > > Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your sub
Re: [AI] Taking the first step towards addressing inaccessible point of sale terminals
Pranab, Indeed step in the right direction. However this would be long drawn affair before solution arise. Sadly awareness even on existance of blind folks continue to be almost zero. Kind regards. Asif On 2/5/20, Srinivasu Chakravarthula wrote: > Pranav, > > Thanks for initiating this. I'm sure they would not go away from touch > based POS terminals and it's practically time consuming to enable > accessibility features if provided in the settings; instead they should > provide one physical button on terminal through which accessibility > features should be enabled when a consumer with blindness is using terminal > and can be turned off with same switch once transaction is completed. > > What email address have your written to? so that more people can write to > them to seek attention. > Best, > Srinivasu > Regards, > > Srinivasu Chakravarthula, CPWA > Twitter: http://twitter.com/CSrinivasu/ > Website: http://www.srinivasu.org | http://serveominclusion.com > > Let's create an inclusive web! > > Senior Accessibility Program Manager, Watermark Inc > Hon. Joint Secretary, The National Association for the Blind, Karnataka > Branch > > > On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 6:17 AM Pranav Lal wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I have taken the first step to addressing the situation with inaccessible >> point of sale terminals by writing to the rbi. See the e-mail I sent. >> Subject: Need urgent addressing of the situation with inaccessible touch >> screen point of sale terminals >> Dear Sir, >> >> In the past 3 months, there has been a proliferation of touch screen >> point >> of sale terminals. This is causing a massive problem for blind users as >> well >> as anyone else who is partly sighted. The key pad is a touch screen >> where >> there is no speech feedback. The blind user does not have any buttons to >> feel therefore cannot memorize the keys. There is no independent way for >> a >> blind user to enter her credit card pin to authorize the card when >> initiating a transaction. In older point of sale terminals, there was a >> push >> button telephone key pad which was easy to operate where blind users >> could >> enter their pin codes independently because the telephone key pad is a >> standard bit of equipment and they know the layout and can feel the >> buttons >> before pressing them. >> As a community, we welcome progress such as the new point of sale systems >> where one only needs to swipe the card. However, inaccessible touch >> screens >> need to be addressed urgently. There are several solutions available >> which >> make these terminals speak and are used in other countries such as the >> USA. >> >> Could you please direct all merchants to install accessible POS >> terminals? >> >> We are happy to work with the RBI and look forward to constructive >> dialogue. >> Pranav Lal >> >> Pranav >> >> >> >> >> >> Search for old postings at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >> >> To unsubscribe send a message to >> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >> with the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> please visit the list home page at >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> >> >> Disclaimer: >> 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of >> the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its >> veracity; >> >> 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the >> mails >> sent through this mailing list.. >> >> > > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the > person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails > sent through this mailing list.. > > -- Mohammed Asif Iqbal PwC | Associate Director | Consulting Direct: +91 (0) 33 4404 3111 | Mobile: +91 (0) 98 3005 9830 Email: mohammed.asif.iq...@pwc.com PricewaterhouseCoopers Private limited 56 & 57, Block DN Sector V, Salt Lake Kolkata 700091 http://www.pwc.com/in -- The information transmitted, including any attachments, is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited, and all liability arising therefrom is disclaimed. If you received this in error, please contact the
Re: [AI] Taking the first step towards addressing inaccessible point of sale terminals
Pranav, Thanks for initiating this. I'm sure they would not go away from touch based POS terminals and it's practically time consuming to enable accessibility features if provided in the settings; instead they should provide one physical button on terminal through which accessibility features should be enabled when a consumer with blindness is using terminal and can be turned off with same switch once transaction is completed. What email address have your written to? so that more people can write to them to seek attention. Best, Srinivasu Regards, Srinivasu Chakravarthula, CPWA Twitter: http://twitter.com/CSrinivasu/ Website: http://www.srinivasu.org | http://serveominclusion.com Let's create an inclusive web! Senior Accessibility Program Manager, Watermark Inc Hon. Joint Secretary, The National Association for the Blind, Karnataka Branch On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 6:17 AM Pranav Lal wrote: > Hi all, > > I have taken the first step to addressing the situation with inaccessible > point of sale terminals by writing to the rbi. See the e-mail I sent. > Subject: Need urgent addressing of the situation with inaccessible touch > screen point of sale terminals > Dear Sir, > > In the past 3 months, there has been a proliferation of touch screen point > of sale terminals. This is causing a massive problem for blind users as > well > as anyone else who is partly sighted. The key pad is a touch screen where > there is no speech feedback. The blind user does not have any buttons to > feel therefore cannot memorize the keys. There is no independent way for a > blind user to enter her credit card pin to authorize the card when > initiating a transaction. In older point of sale terminals, there was a > push > button telephone key pad which was easy to operate where blind users could > enter their pin codes independently because the telephone key pad is a > standard bit of equipment and they know the layout and can feel the buttons > before pressing them. > As a community, we welcome progress such as the new point of sale systems > where one only needs to swipe the card. However, inaccessible touch screens > need to be addressed urgently. There are several solutions available which > make these terminals speak and are used in other countries such as the USA. > > Could you please direct all merchants to install accessible POS terminals? > > We are happy to work with the RBI and look forward to constructive > dialogue. > Pranav Lal > > Pranav > > > > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of > the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails > sent through this mailing list.. > > Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] Taking the first step towards addressing inaccessible point of sale terminals
Also add the same concern with me. Even coffee machines should made accessible for visually challenged people. At my office, I am currently depended on my teammates to get the coffee all the time lol! Anyway, it's a grate initiative and lets hope for the positive. All the best. *** thanks and regards, Shankar.C trainer, consultent, senior accessibility tester. reach me at shanka...@tech-accessibility.in. *** -Original Message- From: AccessIndia On Behalf Of Pranav Lal Sent: 05 February 2020 06:15 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] Taking the first step towards addressing inaccessible point of sale terminals Hi all, I have taken the first step to addressing the situation with inaccessible point of sale terminals by writing to the rbi. See the e-mail I sent. Subject: Need urgent addressing of the situation with inaccessible touch screen point of sale terminals Dear Sir, In the past 3 months, there has been a proliferation of touch screen point of sale terminals. This is causing a massive problem for blind users as well as anyone else who is partly sighted. The key pad is a touch screen where there is no speech feedback. The blind user does not have any buttons to feel therefore cannot memorize the keys. There is no independent way for a blind user to enter her credit card pin to authorize the card when initiating a transaction. In older point of sale terminals, there was a push button telephone key pad which was easy to operate where blind users could enter their pin codes independently because the telephone key pad is a standard bit of equipment and they know the layout and can feel the buttons before pressing them. As a community, we welcome progress such as the new point of sale systems where one only needs to swipe the card. However, inaccessible touch screens need to be addressed urgently. There are several solutions available which make these terminals speak and are used in other countries such as the USA. Could you please direct all merchants to install accessible POS terminals? We are happy to work with the RBI and look forward to constructive dialogue. Pranav Lal Pranav Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
[AI] Taking the first step towards addressing inaccessible point of sale terminals
Hi all, I have taken the first step to addressing the situation with inaccessible point of sale terminals by writing to the rbi. See the e-mail I sent. Subject: Need urgent addressing of the situation with inaccessible touch screen point of sale terminals Dear Sir, In the past 3 months, there has been a proliferation of touch screen point of sale terminals. This is causing a massive problem for blind users as well as anyone else who is partly sighted. The key pad is a touch screen where there is no speech feedback. The blind user does not have any buttons to feel therefore cannot memorize the keys. There is no independent way for a blind user to enter her credit card pin to authorize the card when initiating a transaction. In older point of sale terminals, there was a push button telephone key pad which was easy to operate where blind users could enter their pin codes independently because the telephone key pad is a standard bit of equipment and they know the layout and can feel the buttons before pressing them. As a community, we welcome progress such as the new point of sale systems where one only needs to swipe the card. However, inaccessible touch screens need to be addressed urgently. There are several solutions available which make these terminals speak and are used in other countries such as the USA. Could you please direct all merchants to install accessible POS terminals? We are happy to work with the RBI and look forward to constructive dialogue. Pranav Lal Pranav Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
