Re: [AI] an interesting but shokking observation about Benglore
Dear Abhijeet, it's indeed shocking. but we will have to face such kind of incidents in future because as the life is getting faster people are becoming feelingless for others and are bothered about themselves. so just care a damm. regards, rajesh. - Original Message - From: "Abhijit Joshi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 1:13 PM Subject: [AI] an interesting but shokking observation about Benglore > Hello friends, >Last weekend I spent with our 1 of the members Fayez pasha. I have been > to Bangalore to celebrate Ied with him. > >Bangalore is known as high-tech city in India. I experienced that the > common people are showing negative attitude towards blinds. I am sharing > just 2 examples for you here to show that though we can list our so much > achievements but still we have shown the mirror by society. >1. Just Fayaz and I board in an auto and gone to some place. we just > forgot to take change so after getting down I gave a 100 rupee note to > that auto person. he had the change but he abused us in these words in > local language."blinds always want free service they made for begging > only" after long argument he gave us the change. > > 2. on the next day We have been to a local park called Lal baag. after > reaching there just we asked in the counter "where is the gate?" In return > the ticket seller told the road adding this fraise "begging is not allowed > inside" then he abused with local language. We have taken action according > to the situation. > >As a regular traveler I am moving here and there in India. I never saw > this kind of aggressive and negative attitude any where ells. in northern > India we are known as Soor dass sometimes we have to fight with others but > this is the first time I experience that all classes of a high-tech city > are showing negative attitude towards a particular category. > >'where there is smoke there is fire' through my experience I can say > that in Bangalore it has been projected that blinds are beggars only This > projection has come in organized way.I do not know who is behind this but > people can change this attitude who are between us. I can understand that > the blinds of Bangalore may feel uncomfortable after reading this mail but > if this attitude will change then it will comfortable to all of us in long > run. > > Where there is the will there is the way. > > With hope > Abhijit > Hyderabad > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] an interesting but shokking observation about Benglore
Dear Abhijeet, it's indeed shocking. but we will have to face such kind of incidents in future because as the life is getting faster people are becoming feelingless for others and are bothered about themselves. so just care a damm. regards, rajesh. - Original Message - From: "Abhijit Joshi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 1:13 PM Subject: [AI] an interesting but shokking observation about Benglore > Hello friends, >Last weekend I spent with our 1 of the members Fayez pasha. I have been > to Bangalore to celebrate Ied with him. > >Bangalore is known as high-tech city in India. I experienced that the > common people are showing negative attitude towards blinds. I am sharing > just 2 examples for you here to show that though we can list our so much > achievements but still we have shown the mirror by society. >1. Just Fayaz and I board in an auto and gone to some place. we just > forgot to take change so after getting down I gave a 100 rupee note to > that auto person. he had the change but he abused us in these words in > local language."blinds always want free service they made for begging > only" after long argument he gave us the change. > > 2. on the next day We have been to a local park called Lal baag. after > reaching there just we asked in the counter "where is the gate?" In return > the ticket seller told the road adding this fraise "begging is not allowed > inside" then he abused with local language. We have taken action according > to the situation. > >As a regular traveler I am moving here and there in India. I never saw > this kind of aggressive and negative attitude any where ells. in northern > India we are known as Soor dass sometimes we have to fight with others but > this is the first time I experience that all classes of a high-tech city > are showing negative attitude towards a particular category. > >'where there is smoke there is fire' through my experience I can say > that in Bangalore it has been projected that blinds are beggars only This > projection has come in organized way.I do not know who is behind this but > people can change this attitude who are between us. I can understand that > the blinds of Bangalore may feel uncomfortable after reading this mail but > if this attitude will change then it will comfortable to all of us in long > run. > > Where there is the will there is the way. > > With hope > Abhijit > Hyderabad > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] an interesting but shokking observation about Benglore
sorry that the same message has been repeated. i'll take care next time. regards, rajesh. - Original Message - From: "Abhijit Joshi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 1:13 PM Subject: [AI] an interesting but shokking observation about Benglore > Hello friends, >Last weekend I spent with our 1 of the members Fayez pasha. I have been > to Bangalore to celebrate Ied with him. > >Bangalore is known as high-tech city in India. I experienced that the > common people are showing negative attitude towards blinds. I am sharing > just 2 examples for you here to show that though we can list our so much > achievements but still we have shown the mirror by society. >1. Just Fayaz and I board in an auto and gone to some place. we just > forgot to take change so after getting down I gave a 100 rupee note to > that auto person. he had the change but he abused us in these words in > local language."blinds always want free service they made for begging > only" after long argument he gave us the change. > > 2. on the next day We have been to a local park called Lal baag. after > reaching there just we asked in the counter "where is the gate?" In return > the ticket seller told the road adding this fraise "begging is not allowed > inside" then he abused with local language. We have taken action according > to the situation. > >As a regular traveler I am moving here and there in India. I never saw > this kind of aggressive and negative attitude any where ells. in northern > India we are known as Soor dass sometimes we have to fight with others but > this is the first time I experience that all classes of a high-tech city > are showing negative attitude towards a particular category. > >'where there is smoke there is fire' through my experience I can say > that in Bangalore it has been projected that blinds are beggars only This > projection has come in organized way.I do not know who is behind this but > people can change this attitude who are between us. I can understand that > the blinds of Bangalore may feel uncomfortable after reading this mail but > if this attitude will change then it will comfortable to all of us in long > run. > > Where there is the will there is the way. > > With hope > Abhijit > Hyderabad > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] an interesting but shokking observation about Benglore
Dear Abhijeet, it's indeed shocking. but we will have to face such kind of incidents in future because as the life is getting faster people are becoming feelingless for others and are bothered about themselves. so just care a damm. regards, rajesh. - Original Message - From: "Abhijit Joshi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 1:13 PM Subject: [AI] an interesting but shokking observation about Benglore > Hello friends, >Last weekend I spent with our 1 of the members Fayez pasha. I have been > to Bangalore to celebrate Ied with him. > >Bangalore is known as high-tech city in India. I experienced that the > common people are showing negative attitude towards blinds. I am sharing > just 2 examples for you here to show that though we can list our so much > achievements but still we have shown the mirror by society. >1. Just Fayaz and I board in an auto and gone to some place. we just > forgot to take change so after getting down I gave a 100 rupee note to > that auto person. he had the change but he abused us in these words in > local language."blinds always want free service they made for begging > only" after long argument he gave us the change. > > 2. on the next day We have been to a local park called Lal baag. after > reaching there just we asked in the counter "where is the gate?" In return > the ticket seller told the road adding this fraise "begging is not allowed > inside" then he abused with local language. We have taken action according > to the situation. > >As a regular traveler I am moving here and there in India. I never saw > this kind of aggressive and negative attitude any where ells. in northern > India we are known as Soor dass sometimes we have to fight with others but > this is the first time I experience that all classes of a high-tech city > are showing negative attitude towards a particular category. > >'where there is smoke there is fire' through my experience I can say > that in Bangalore it has been projected that blinds are beggars only This > projection has come in organized way.I do not know who is behind this but > people can change this attitude who are between us. I can understand that > the blinds of Bangalore may feel uncomfortable after reading this mail but > if this attitude will change then it will comfortable to all of us in long > run. > > Where there is the will there is the way. > > With hope > Abhijit > Hyderabad > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] an interesting but shokking observation about Benglore
Yes Amit, Very much agree with you, If the person is not able to understand the abilities of disabled than it is our responsibility to make him/her aware of it. So often We only criticize the people only for not understanding us without making any effort. People understands or not it doesn't matter, But at least we can try our best. - Original Message - From: "amit bhattt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ; "Harish Kotian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 10:50 AM Subject: Re: [AI] an interesting but shokking observation about Benglore Dear all, This incidence was indeed dreadful and I would never call it an interesting but, I do agree that we cannot generalize such occurrence in one particular state only. Don't know how many of the disabled, specially persons with visual impairment, confront such unfortunate issues in their life. Even in Delhi I have observed people staying with the thoughts that visually impaired are beggars and cannot afford in auto and other things. Gradually, we can see changes in the attitude of the sighted people but yes, we have still lot of things to do in terms of making this society aware. Don't mind friends, but truth is that if not everything but at least something is in our hand to get respect in our society and culture. The example given by Mr. Subramani is great and can help in making the people realize that visually challenged are also human being. It is totally unfair to specify the name of beggar with a disabled person. In my opinion, If you conduct any survey, we will come to know that sighted are more beggars in numbers as compare to visually impaired person, however, these uninformed and oblivious citizens failing to recognize the reality. "people don't know the ability of the visually impaired people in Bangalore." Well I would differ here! The same approach towards disabled persons can be observed in all part of the Country. But yes, one more thing I would like to opine that speaking good English, Hindi or any other language doesn't mean that you are an educated person unless you understand the things clearly and behave with others in well manner like a human being should be, not like animal. Anyways, if the person standing in front of you is not aware of our disability and ability, then it must be our own effort to make him or her aware. They would understand or not, that is not sure and different matter but we have to do this for sure! Individuals, communities, NGO's, come together and act now! -- Warm regards, Amit Bhatt Spokesperson - Indian Association of the Blind New Delhi, India IM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows Live: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: amitbhattindia "Alone we can do so little, together we can do so much"-Helen Keller Quoting Harish Kotian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi all > > I too lived at Bangalore for 7 years. I didn't experience any such > > incident. > > It is not a fair assessment to make such generalisation, towards, > people of > that state, until, and unless it is widespread. > > Isn't it the same generalisation that some think that all blind > persons are > beggers? > > It is these dwarfed mind sets and prejudices which are the cause of > most > problems plaguing this planet. > > Bangalore is certainly a great place to live and the folks are > warm, gentle > and helpful. It is also cosmopolitan in its character. If one can > speak > english or hindi, one can certainly manage. > > This incident is certainly deplorable, and I hope it is an isolated > one. > > I guess we are deviating from the issue here. > Harish > - Original Message - > From: "Balaraman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 9:07 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] an interesting but shokking observation about > Benglore > > > > Very shocking indeed. But, I am not surprised at this. Most of > the > > Karnataka > > guys only know their mother tongue. That itself speaks the volume > of their > > thinking capabilities. Myself and my friends have experienced > different > > kinds of such silly incidents from those who belong to that > state. In my > > opinion, it is nothing but due to lack of education. This is my > personal > > view only, and I humbly ask the members not to take this as an > offence. > > - Original Message - > > From: "Abhijit Joshi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 1:13 PM > > Subject: [AI] an interesting but shokking observation about > Benglore > > > > > >> Hello friends, > >>Last weekend I spent with our 1 of the members Fayez pasha. I > have > >> been > >> to
Re: [AI] an interesting but shokking observation about Benglore
And, people in the other states including capital New Delhi, should learn and make similar efforts. -- Warm regards, Amit Bhatt Spokesperson - Indian Association of the Blind New Delhi, India IM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows Live: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: amitbhattindia Alone we can do so little, together we can do so much"-Helen Keller Quoting Vedprakash Sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > this is a welcome effort on part of Nab Karnataka and should be > appreciated. > - Original Message - > From: "Srinivasu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 3:58 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] an interesting but shokking observation about > Benglore > > > > Hello All, > > > > I have forwarded the below mail to NAB Karnataka and got a call > from one > > of > > its official just now. They too felt sorry about the experience > that our > > friends had in Bangalore. NAB Karnataka making all possible > efforts to > > create awareness but still there would some areas that need more > > > awareness. > > > > In the future, if any one face similar experience / difficulty > may > > immediately report Mr. Dayanand Kanchan of NAB Karnataka at +91 > 80 2528 > > 1590 > > / 2528 1439 and their team will come to the incident place and > offer > > necessary help as well as educate the people who create such > problems. > > > > Regards, > > Srinivasu > > > > > > -Original Message----- > > From: Balaraman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 9:08 PM > > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in > > Subject: Re: [AI] an interesting but shokking observation about > Benglore > > > > Very shocking indeed. But, I am not surprised at this. Most of > the > > Karnataka > > > > guys only know their mother tongue. That itself speaks the volume > of their > > thinking capabilities. Myself and my friends have experienced > different > > kinds of such silly incidents from those who belong to that > state. In my > > opinion, it is nothing but due to lack of education. This is my > personal > > view only, and I humbly ask the members not to take this as an > offence. > > - Original Message - > > From: "Abhijit Joshi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 1:13 PM > > Subject: [AI] an interesting but shokking observation about > Benglore > > > > > >> Hello friends, > >>Last weekend I spent with our 1 of the members Fayez pasha. I > have > >> been > > > >> to Bangalore to celebrate Ied with him. > >> > >>Bangalore is known as high-tech city in India. I experienced > that the > >> common people are showing negative attitude towards blinds. I > am sharing > >> just 2 examples for you here to show that though we can list our > so much > >> achievements but still we have shown the mirror by society. > >>1. Just Fayaz and I board in an auto and gone to some place. > we just > >> forgot to take change so after getting down I gave a 100 rupee > note to > >> that auto person. he had the change but he abused us in these > words in > >> local language."blinds always want free service they made for > begging > >> only" after long argument he gave us the change. > >> > >> 2. on the next day We have been to a local park called Lal baag. > after > >> reaching there just we asked in the counter "where is the gate?" > In > >> return > > > >> the ticket seller told the road adding this fraise "begging is > not > >> allowed > > > >> inside" then he abused with local language. We have taken action > > >> according > > > >> to the situation. > >> > >>As a regular traveler I am moving here and there in India. I > never saw > >> this kind of aggressive and negative attitude any where ells. in > northern > >> India we are known as Soor dass sometimes we have to fight with > others > >> but > > > >> this is the first time I experience that all classes of a > high-tech city > >> are showing negative attitude towards a particular category. > >> > >>'where there is smoke there is fire' through my experience I > can say > >> that in Bangalore it has been projected that blinds are beggars > only This > >> projection has come in organized way.I do not know who is behind > this but
[AI] an interesting but shokking observation about Benglore
Hi Srinivasu I applaud your efforts you've mailed to NAB, kKarnataka. But what further they have done? Have they written on their LH to the concerned Deptt, reporting the incidence, date, time & venue of Lal Bagh...? To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] an interesting but shokking observation about Benglore
this is a welcome effort on part of Nab Karnataka and should be appreciated. - Original Message - From: "Srinivasu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 3:58 PM Subject: Re: [AI] an interesting but shokking observation about Benglore > Hello All, > > I have forwarded the below mail to NAB Karnataka and got a call from one > of > its official just now. They too felt sorry about the experience that our > friends had in Bangalore. NAB Karnataka making all possible efforts to > create awareness but still there would some areas that need more > awareness. > > In the future, if any one face similar experience / difficulty may > immediately report Mr. Dayanand Kanchan of NAB Karnataka at +91 80 2528 > 1590 > / 2528 1439 and their team will come to the incident place and offer > necessary help as well as educate the people who create such problems. > > Regards, > Srinivasu > > > -Original Message- > From: Balaraman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 9:08 PM > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in > Subject: Re: [AI] an interesting but shokking observation about Benglore > > Very shocking indeed. But, I am not surprised at this. Most of the > Karnataka > > guys only know their mother tongue. That itself speaks the volume of their > thinking capabilities. Myself and my friends have experienced different > kinds of such silly incidents from those who belong to that state. In my > opinion, it is nothing but due to lack of education. This is my personal > view only, and I humbly ask the members not to take this as an offence. > - Original Message - > From: "Abhijit Joshi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 1:13 PM > Subject: [AI] an interesting but shokking observation about Benglore > > >> Hello friends, >>Last weekend I spent with our 1 of the members Fayez pasha. I have >> been > >> to Bangalore to celebrate Ied with him. >> >>Bangalore is known as high-tech city in India. I experienced that the >> common people are showing negative attitude towards blinds. I am sharing >> just 2 examples for you here to show that though we can list our so much >> achievements but still we have shown the mirror by society. >>1. Just Fayaz and I board in an auto and gone to some place. we just >> forgot to take change so after getting down I gave a 100 rupee note to >> that auto person. he had the change but he abused us in these words in >> local language."blinds always want free service they made for begging >> only" after long argument he gave us the change. >> >> 2. on the next day We have been to a local park called Lal baag. after >> reaching there just we asked in the counter "where is the gate?" In >> return > >> the ticket seller told the road adding this fraise "begging is not >> allowed > >> inside" then he abused with local language. We have taken action >> according > >> to the situation. >> >>As a regular traveler I am moving here and there in India. I never saw >> this kind of aggressive and negative attitude any where ells. in northern >> India we are known as Soor dass sometimes we have to fight with others >> but > >> this is the first time I experience that all classes of a high-tech city >> are showing negative attitude towards a particular category. >> >>'where there is smoke there is fire' through my experience I can say >> that in Bangalore it has been projected that blinds are beggars only This >> projection has come in organized way.I do not know who is behind this but >> people can change this attitude who are between us. I can understand that >> the blinds of Bangalore may feel uncomfortable after reading this mail >> but > >> if this attitude will change then it will comfortable to all of us in >> long > >> run. >> >> Where there is the will there is the way. >> >> With hope >> Abhijit >> Hyderabad >> To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> with the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> please visit the list home page at >> >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> >> > > > > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with > the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please > visit the list home page at > http://accessi
[AI] an interesting but shokking observation about Benglore
Yes Mahendra, I agree to what you say. Language does not matter here but the way you say, the most. I in the first instance would have said to this gentleman in a very calm way in any language that best suits him: O yes, I've begged this money too, that you gave me in begging this time you're begging as I've the money & you need it...everybody begs at some time or the other; may be somewhat differently. & at Ticket counter? 'Sir, do I look like a begger to you? Being a literate man if you can make that mistake, you can be mistaken for a begger by anybody at anywhere other than this counter if others make mistakes like you too. 'The biggest men and women with the biggest ideas can be shot down by the smallest men and women with smallest ideas; & I was really confounded one day by my lady reader in my college days once when she cassually said 'you are an English perfectionist. We have a proffessor like you in our college. Everybody once leftout the halll because he was not seeing, when he was lecturing in Englis. Learned ones appreciate your English but those not knowing always feel insulted.. To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] an interesting but shokking observation about Benglore
Hello All, I have forwarded the below mail to NAB Karnataka and got a call from one of its official just now. They too felt sorry about the experience that our friends had in Bangalore. NAB Karnataka making all possible efforts to create awareness but still there would some areas that need more awareness. In the future, if any one face similar experience / difficulty may immediately report Mr. Dayanand Kanchan of NAB Karnataka at +91 80 2528 1590 / 2528 1439 and their team will come to the incident place and offer necessary help as well as educate the people who create such problems. Regards, Srinivasu -Original Message- From: Balaraman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 9:08 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] an interesting but shokking observation about Benglore Very shocking indeed. But, I am not surprised at this. Most of the Karnataka guys only know their mother tongue. That itself speaks the volume of their thinking capabilities. Myself and my friends have experienced different kinds of such silly incidents from those who belong to that state. In my opinion, it is nothing but due to lack of education. This is my personal view only, and I humbly ask the members not to take this as an offence. - Original Message - From: "Abhijit Joshi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 1:13 PM Subject: [AI] an interesting but shokking observation about Benglore > Hello friends, >Last weekend I spent with our 1 of the members Fayez pasha. I have been > to Bangalore to celebrate Ied with him. > >Bangalore is known as high-tech city in India. I experienced that the > common people are showing negative attitude towards blinds. I am sharing > just 2 examples for you here to show that though we can list our so much > achievements but still we have shown the mirror by society. >1. Just Fayaz and I board in an auto and gone to some place. we just > forgot to take change so after getting down I gave a 100 rupee note to > that auto person. he had the change but he abused us in these words in > local language."blinds always want free service they made for begging > only" after long argument he gave us the change. > > 2. on the next day We have been to a local park called Lal baag. after > reaching there just we asked in the counter "where is the gate?" In return > the ticket seller told the road adding this fraise "begging is not allowed > inside" then he abused with local language. We have taken action according > to the situation. > >As a regular traveler I am moving here and there in India. I never saw > this kind of aggressive and negative attitude any where ells. in northern > India we are known as Soor dass sometimes we have to fight with others but > this is the first time I experience that all classes of a high-tech city > are showing negative attitude towards a particular category. > >'where there is smoke there is fire' through my experience I can say > that in Bangalore it has been projected that blinds are beggars only This > projection has come in organized way.I do not know who is behind this but > people can change this attitude who are between us. I can understand that > the blinds of Bangalore may feel uncomfortable after reading this mail but > if this attitude will change then it will comfortable to all of us in long > run. > > Where there is the will there is the way. > > With hope > Abhijit > Hyderabad > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] an interesting but shokking observation about Benglore
Hi, Perhaps, your experience and observation is correct, but it may happen on any part of India, whether in Bangalore or Chennai or even Delhi also. But, as far concern to my personal experience and observation in Bangalore in December 21, 2005, I enjoyed well with my family during visiting Lal Bag, Science Museum and other places of that city. I also shared my experience with MR. L SUBRAMUNIUM AND RAJANI G also on same day and I also thanked them for guiding me well in phone and mail about visiting places in Mysore and Bangalore and Chennai too. Therefore, I request to all members, please don't generalise the incident particularly in special respect of Bangalore and we should keep patience, although if it is necessary, then we should fight against the injustice by anyone in anyone of any city. Regards, RAKESH KUMAR GUPTA MOBILE NUMBER: +919868250258 TELEPHONE NUMBER: +911202611158 - Original Message - From: "Ashwani Jassal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 1:24 PM Subject: Re: [AI] an interesting but shokking observation about Benglore > very bad but these people come from lower community that is why they don't > know the potential of blind people. A campaign has to be launched to make > people aware of the qualities of blind people. > - Original Message - > From: "Abhijit Joshi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 1:13 PM > Subject: [AI] an interesting but shokking observation about Benglore > > >> Hello friends, >>Last weekend I spent with our 1 of the members Fayez pasha. I have >> been >> to Bangalore to celebrate Ied with him. >> >>Bangalore is known as high-tech city in India. I experienced that the >> common people are showing negative attitude towards blinds. I am sharing >> just 2 examples for you here to show that though we can list our so much >> achievements but still we have shown the mirror by society. >>1. Just Fayaz and I board in an auto and gone to some place. we just >> forgot to take change so after getting down I gave a 100 rupee note to >> that auto person. he had the change but he abused us in these words in >> local language."blinds always want free service they made for begging >> only" after long argument he gave us the change. >> >> 2. on the next day We have been to a local park called Lal baag. after >> reaching there just we asked in the counter "where is the gate?" In >> return >> the ticket seller told the road adding this fraise "begging is not >> allowed >> inside" then he abused with local language. We have taken action >> according >> to the situation. >> >>As a regular traveler I am moving here and there in India. I never saw >> this kind of aggressive and negative attitude any where ells. in northern >> India we are known as Soor dass sometimes we have to fight with others >> but >> this is the first time I experience that all classes of a high-tech city >> are showing negative attitude towards a particular category. >> >>'where there is smoke there is fire' through my experience I can say >> that in Bangalore it has been projected that blinds are beggars only This >> projection has come in organized way.I do not know who is behind this but >> people can change this attitude who are between us. I can understand that >> the blinds of Bangalore may feel uncomfortable after reading this mail >> but >> if this attitude will change then it will comfortable to all of us in >> long >> run. >> >> Where there is the will there is the way. >> >> With hope >> Abhijit >> Hyderabad >> To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> with the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> please visit the list home page at >> >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Send instant messages to your online friends http://in.messenger.yahoo.com To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] an interesting but shokking observation about Benglore
Dear all, This incidence was indeed dreadful and I would never call it an interesting but, I do agree that we cannot generalize such occurrence in one particular state only. Dont know how many of the disabled, specially persons with visual impairment, confront such unfortunate issues in their life. Even in Delhi I have observed people staying with the thoughts that visually impaired are beggars and cannot afford in auto and other things. Gradually, we can see changes in the attitude of the sighted people but yes, we have still lot of things to do in terms of making this society aware. Dont mind friends, but truth is that if not everything but at least something is in our hand to get respect in our society and culture. The example given by Mr. Subramani is great and can help in making the people realize that visually challenged are also human being. It is totally unfair to specify the name of beggar with a disabled person. In my opinion, If you conduct any survey, we will come to know that sighted are more beggars in numbers as compare to visually impaired person, however, these uninformed and oblivious citizens failing to recognize the reality. people dont know the ability of the visually impaired people in Bangalore. Well I would differ here! The same approach towards disabled persons can be observed in all part of the Country. But yes, one more thing I would like to opine that speaking good English, Hindi or any other language doesnt mean that you are an educated person unless you understand the things clearly and behave with others in well manner like a human being should be, not like animal. Anyways, if the person standing in front of you is not aware of our disability and ability, then it must be our own effort to make him or her aware. They would understand or not, that is not sure and different matter but we have to do this for sure! Individuals, communities, NGOs, come together and act now! -- Warm regards, Amit Bhatt Spokesperson - Indian Association of the Blind New Delhi, India IM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows Live: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: amitbhattindia Alone we can do so little, together we can do so much"-Helen Keller Quoting Harish Kotian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi all > > I too lived at Bangalore for 7 years. I didn't experience any such > > incident. > > It is not a fair assessment to make such generalisation, towards, > people of > that state, until, and unless it is widespread. > > Isn't it the same generalisation that some think that all blind > persons are > beggers? > > It is these dwarfed mind sets and prejudices which are the cause of > most > problems plaguing this planet. > > Bangalore is certainly a great place to live and the folks are > warm, gentle > and helpful. It is also cosmopolitan in its character. If one can > speak > english or hindi, one can certainly manage. > > This incident is certainly deplorable, and I hope it is an isolated > one. > > I guess we are deviating from the issue here. > Harish > - Original Message ----- > From: "Balaraman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 9:07 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] an interesting but shokking observation about > Benglore > > > > Very shocking indeed. But, I am not surprised at this. Most of > the > > Karnataka > > guys only know their mother tongue. That itself speaks the volume > of their > > thinking capabilities. Myself and my friends have experienced > different > > kinds of such silly incidents from those who belong to that > state. In my > > opinion, it is nothing but due to lack of education. This is my > personal > > view only, and I humbly ask the members not to take this as an > offence. > > - Original Message - > > From: "Abhijit Joshi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 1:13 PM > > Subject: [AI] an interesting but shokking observation about > Benglore > > > > > >> Hello friends, > >>Last weekend I spent with our 1 of the members Fayez pasha. I > have > >> been > >> to Bangalore to celebrate Ied with him. > >> > >>Bangalore is known as high-tech city in India. I experienced > that the > >> common people are showing negative attitude towards blinds. I > am sharing > >> just 2 examples for you here to show that though we can list our > so much > >> achievements but still we have shown the mirror by society. > >>1. Just Fayaz and I board in an auto and gone to some place. > we just > >> forgot to take change so after getting down I gave a 100 rupee > note to > >> that auto person. he had the
Re: [AI] an interesting but shokking observation about Benglore
Hai Mahendra: Your observation in general is correct. But, polished English, with a good British or American accent, is perhaps the subtle indication of your educational qualification, as understood by folks here. In fact, whatever I had suggested is from personal experience. When folks are helpful, I don't mind talking to them even in broken Kannada, as curtsy would demand. But, when I understand that someone is talking in an objectionable way, I would immediately switch over to the accented English as a way of scaring the other guy. The best thing is people in South gets offended if you speak in English. Even a milder abuse would sound to them very objectionable. I don't exactly know the reason, but this is a good scare tactics. Subramani -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mahendra Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 7:54 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] an interesting but shokking observation about Benglore Hi why polished english only? any language well spoken, is as good as english. it is just not language, but how you say, matters as well. At 10:49 AM 10/16/2007, you wrote: >Hai: > >Living in Bangalore, I must tell you that I have never experienced this >even once; if I will face the problem in future, I know not. > >But, the most basic issue here is the perception of the blind as beggers >by the society. Yes, it hurts, but who suffers the damage depends on the >attitude. When someone refers to you as a begger, say in the case of the >autowala, I would have perhaps walked away without picking up the >change. It's costly and we can't do this very often, but if you get a >chance you can do at least once. After this I am sure the other person >will be feeling bad, not you. > >Regarding the Lalbagh incident, when someone abuses you publicly, you >must tell him/her in no uncertain terms that you have come there to >spend a pleasant evening and they have spoilt it. Reminding them how >their own family member would have felt while hearing something like >this, you must walk out creating a big fuss, so that others notice and >you can spread the word. Make sure you talk in the most polished >English, reminding them that their perception is wrong. > >Subramani >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ashwani >Jassal >Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 1:24 PM >To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in >Subject: Re: [AI] an interesting but shokking observation about Benglore > >very bad but these people come from lower community that is why they >don't >know the potential of blind people. A campaign has to be launched to >make >people aware of the qualities of blind people. >----- Original Message - >From: "Abhijit Joshi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: >Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 1:13 PM >Subject: [AI] an interesting but shokking observation about Benglore > > > > Hello friends, > >Last weekend I spent with our 1 of the members Fayez pasha. I have >been > > to Bangalore to celebrate Ied with him. > > > >Bangalore is known as high-tech city in India. I experienced that >the > > common people are showing negative attitude towards blinds. I am >sharing > > just 2 examples for you here to show that though we can list our so >much > > achievements but still we have shown the mirror by society. > >1. Just Fayaz and I board in an auto and gone to some place. we >just > > forgot to take change so after getting down I gave a 100 rupee note to > > > that auto person. he had the change but he abused us in these words in > > > local language."blinds always want free service they made for begging > > only" after long argument he gave us the change. > > > > 2. on the next day We have been to a local park called Lal baag. after > > > reaching there just we asked in the counter "where is the gate?" In >return > > the ticket seller told the road adding this fraise "begging is not >allowed > > inside" then he abused with local language. We have taken action >according > > to the situation. > > > >As a regular traveler I am moving here and there in India. I never >saw > > this kind of aggressive and negative attitude any where ells. in >northern > > India we are known as Soor dass sometimes we have to fight with others >but > > this is the first time I experience that all classes of a high-tech >city > > are showing negative attitude towards a particular category. > > > >'where there is smoke there is fire' through my experience I can >say > > that in Bangalore i
Re: [AI] an interesting but shokking observation about Benglore
Hi all I too lived at Bangalore for 7 years. I didn't experience any such incident. It is not a fair assessment to make such generalisation, towards, people of that state, until, and unless it is widespread. Isn't it the same generalisation that some think that all blind persons are beggers? It is these dwarfed mind sets and prejudices which are the cause of most problems plaguing this planet. Bangalore is certainly a great place to live and the folks are warm, gentle and helpful. It is also cosmopolitan in its character. If one can speak english or hindi, one can certainly manage. This incident is certainly deplorable, and I hope it is an isolated one. I guess we are deviating from the issue here. Harish - Original Message - From: "Balaraman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 9:07 PM Subject: Re: [AI] an interesting but shokking observation about Benglore > Very shocking indeed. But, I am not surprised at this. Most of the > Karnataka > guys only know their mother tongue. That itself speaks the volume of their > thinking capabilities. Myself and my friends have experienced different > kinds of such silly incidents from those who belong to that state. In my > opinion, it is nothing but due to lack of education. This is my personal > view only, and I humbly ask the members not to take this as an offence. > - Original Message - > From: "Abhijit Joshi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 1:13 PM > Subject: [AI] an interesting but shokking observation about Benglore > > >> Hello friends, >>Last weekend I spent with our 1 of the members Fayez pasha. I have >> been >> to Bangalore to celebrate Ied with him. >> >>Bangalore is known as high-tech city in India. I experienced that the >> common people are showing negative attitude towards blinds. I am sharing >> just 2 examples for you here to show that though we can list our so much >> achievements but still we have shown the mirror by society. >>1. Just Fayaz and I board in an auto and gone to some place. we just >> forgot to take change so after getting down I gave a 100 rupee note to >> that auto person. he had the change but he abused us in these words in >> local language."blinds always want free service they made for begging >> only" after long argument he gave us the change. >> >> 2. on the next day We have been to a local park called Lal baag. after >> reaching there just we asked in the counter "where is the gate?" In >> return >> the ticket seller told the road adding this fraise "begging is not >> allowed >> inside" then he abused with local language. We have taken action >> according >> to the situation. >> >>As a regular traveler I am moving here and there in India. I never saw >> this kind of aggressive and negative attitude any where ells. in northern >> India we are known as Soor dass sometimes we have to fight with others >> but >> this is the first time I experience that all classes of a high-tech city >> are showing negative attitude towards a particular category. >> >>'where there is smoke there is fire' through my experience I can say >> that in Bangalore it has been projected that blinds are beggars only This >> projection has come in organized way.I do not know who is behind this but >> people can change this attitude who are between us. I can understand that >> the blinds of Bangalore may feel uncomfortable after reading this mail >> but >> if this attitude will change then it will comfortable to all of us in >> long >> run. >> >> Where there is the will there is the way. >> >> With hope >> Abhijit >> Hyderabad >> To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> with the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> please visit the list home page at >> >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> >> > > > > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] an interesting but shokking observation about Benglore
Friend, It is shocking to hear this at Bangalore. I heard somebody would press alms without knowing anything. But it is wonder that people are treating after proper questions. Even a VC can become a Prime minister in U.K. On the other hand we are pictured as beggar . Friends do not loose your confidence by these. We should fight over this by proving our ability. The media also should make aware among people. BV - Original Message - From: "Abhijit Joshi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 1:13 PM Subject: [AI] an interesting but shokking observation about Benglore > Hello friends, >Last weekend I spent with our 1 of the members Fayez pasha. I have been > to Bangalore to celebrate Ied with him. > >Bangalore is known as high-tech city in India. I experienced that the > common people are showing negative attitude towards blinds. I am sharing > just 2 examples for you here to show that though we can list our so much > achievements but still we have shown the mirror by society. >1. Just Fayaz and I board in an auto and gone to some place. we just > forgot to take change so after getting down I gave a 100 rupee note to > that auto person. he had the change but he abused us in these words in > local language."blinds always want free service they made for begging > only" after long argument he gave us the change. > > 2. on the next day We have been to a local park called Lal baag. after > reaching there just we asked in the counter "where is the gate?" In return > the ticket seller told the road adding this fraise "begging is not allowed > inside" then he abused with local language. We have taken action according > to the situation. > >As a regular traveler I am moving here and there in India. I never saw > this kind of aggressive and negative attitude any where ells. in northern > India we are known as Soor dass sometimes we have to fight with others but > this is the first time I experience that all classes of a high-tech city > are showing negative attitude towards a particular category. > >'where there is smoke there is fire' through my experience I can say > that in Bangalore it has been projected that blinds are beggars only This > projection has come in organized way.I do not know who is behind this but > people can change this attitude who are between us. I can understand that > the blinds of Bangalore may feel uncomfortable after reading this mail but > if this attitude will change then it will comfortable to all of us in long > run. > > Where there is the will there is the way. > > With hope > Abhijit > Hyderabad > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] an interesting but shokking observation about Benglore
I think here in Bangalore, people seem to have a notion that if one speaks in polished english, you are very much respected. I am telling you this because as a native of Bangalore, I have been observing these people. Any language that is spoken well, is in fact better than English, but ironically, in my opinion, they still consider english as somewhat "high-fi", therefore, if one speaks in english, it would make them less likely to call us "beggers" or "road-roamers", or any thing of that sourt. It is also possible that they might do this basically to anoy us, (I might lose my patience if it happens with me), in that case we can try applying the solutions given by Subramanya sir. I whole-heartedly appreciate the love for your language you seem to be having. Yes, they ought to accept people "as they are". But let's not give up our hope, for we are still unite, still alive. - Original Message - From: "mahendra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 7:23 AM Subject: Re: [AI] an interesting but shokking observation about Benglore > Hi why polished english only? > any language well spoken, is as good as english. > it is just not language, but how you say, matters as well. > At 10:49 AM 10/16/2007, you wrote: >>Hai: >> >>Living in Bangalore, I must tell you that I have never experienced this >>even once; if I will face the problem in future, I know not. >> >>But, the most basic issue here is the perception of the blind as beggers >>by the society. Yes, it hurts, but who suffers the damage depends on the >>attitude. When someone refers to you as a begger, say in the case of the >>autowala, I would have perhaps walked away without picking up the >>change. It's costly and we can't do this very often, but if you get a >>chance you can do at least once. After this I am sure the other person >>will be feeling bad, not you. >> >>Regarding the Lalbagh incident, when someone abuses you publicly, you >>must tell him/her in no uncertain terms that you have come there to >>spend a pleasant evening and they have spoilt it. Reminding them how >>their own family member would have felt while hearing something like >>this, you must walk out creating a big fuss, so that others notice and >>you can spread the word. Make sure you talk in the most polished >>English, reminding them that their perception is wrong. >> >>Subramani >>-----Original Message- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ashwani >>Jassal >>Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 1:24 PM >>To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>Subject: Re: [AI] an interesting but shokking observation about Benglore >> >>very bad but these people come from lower community that is why they >>don't >>know the potential of blind people. A campaign has to be launched to >>make >>people aware of the qualities of blind people. >>- Original Message - >>From: "Abhijit Joshi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: >>Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 1:13 PM >>Subject: [AI] an interesting but shokking observation about Benglore >> >> >> > Hello friends, >> >Last weekend I spent with our 1 of the members Fayez pasha. I have >>been >> > to Bangalore to celebrate Ied with him. >> > >> >Bangalore is known as high-tech city in India. I experienced that >>the >> > common people are showing negative attitude towards blinds. I am >>sharing >> > just 2 examples for you here to show that though we can list our so >>much >> > achievements but still we have shown the mirror by society. >> >1. Just Fayaz and I board in an auto and gone to some place. we >>just >> > forgot to take change so after getting down I gave a 100 rupee note to >> >> > that auto person. he had the change but he abused us in these words in >> >> > local language."blinds always want free service they made for begging >> > only" after long argument he gave us the change. >> > >> > 2. on the next day We have been to a local park called Lal baag. after >> >> > reaching there just we asked in the counter "where is the gate?" In >>return >> > the ticket seller told the road adding this fraise "begging is not >>allowed >> > inside" then he abused with local language. We have taken action >>according >> > to the situation. >> > >> >As a regular traveler I am moving here and there in India. I never >>saw >> > this kind
Re: [AI] an interesting but shokking observation about Benglore
Very shocking indeed. But, I am not surprised at this. Most of the Karnataka guys only know their mother tongue. That itself speaks the volume of their thinking capabilities. Myself and my friends have experienced different kinds of such silly incidents from those who belong to that state. In my opinion, it is nothing but due to lack of education. This is my personal view only, and I humbly ask the members not to take this as an offence. - Original Message - From: "Abhijit Joshi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 1:13 PM Subject: [AI] an interesting but shokking observation about Benglore > Hello friends, >Last weekend I spent with our 1 of the members Fayez pasha. I have been > to Bangalore to celebrate Ied with him. > >Bangalore is known as high-tech city in India. I experienced that the > common people are showing negative attitude towards blinds. I am sharing > just 2 examples for you here to show that though we can list our so much > achievements but still we have shown the mirror by society. >1. Just Fayaz and I board in an auto and gone to some place. we just > forgot to take change so after getting down I gave a 100 rupee note to > that auto person. he had the change but he abused us in these words in > local language."blinds always want free service they made for begging > only" after long argument he gave us the change. > > 2. on the next day We have been to a local park called Lal baag. after > reaching there just we asked in the counter "where is the gate?" In return > the ticket seller told the road adding this fraise "begging is not allowed > inside" then he abused with local language. We have taken action according > to the situation. > >As a regular traveler I am moving here and there in India. I never saw > this kind of aggressive and negative attitude any where ells. in northern > India we are known as Soor dass sometimes we have to fight with others but > this is the first time I experience that all classes of a high-tech city > are showing negative attitude towards a particular category. > >'where there is smoke there is fire' through my experience I can say > that in Bangalore it has been projected that blinds are beggars only This > projection has come in organized way.I do not know who is behind this but > people can change this attitude who are between us. I can understand that > the blinds of Bangalore may feel uncomfortable after reading this mail but > if this attitude will change then it will comfortable to all of us in long > run. > > Where there is the will there is the way. > > With hope > Abhijit > Hyderabad > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] an interesting but shokking observation about Benglore
Hi why polished english only? any language well spoken, is as good as english. it is just not language, but how you say, matters as well. At 10:49 AM 10/16/2007, you wrote: >Hai: > >Living in Bangalore, I must tell you that I have never experienced this >even once; if I will face the problem in future, I know not. > >But, the most basic issue here is the perception of the blind as beggers >by the society. Yes, it hurts, but who suffers the damage depends on the >attitude. When someone refers to you as a begger, say in the case of the >autowala, I would have perhaps walked away without picking up the >change. It's costly and we can't do this very often, but if you get a >chance you can do at least once. After this I am sure the other person >will be feeling bad, not you. > >Regarding the Lalbagh incident, when someone abuses you publicly, you >must tell him/her in no uncertain terms that you have come there to >spend a pleasant evening and they have spoilt it. Reminding them how >their own family member would have felt while hearing something like >this, you must walk out creating a big fuss, so that others notice and >you can spread the word. Make sure you talk in the most polished >English, reminding them that their perception is wrong. > >Subramani >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ashwani >Jassal >Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 1:24 PM >To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in >Subject: Re: [AI] an interesting but shokking observation about Benglore > >very bad but these people come from lower community that is why they >don't >know the potential of blind people. A campaign has to be launched to >make >people aware of the qualities of blind people. >- Original Message ----- >From: "Abhijit Joshi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: >Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 1:13 PM >Subject: [AI] an interesting but shokking observation about Benglore > > > > Hello friends, > >Last weekend I spent with our 1 of the members Fayez pasha. I have >been > > to Bangalore to celebrate Ied with him. > > > >Bangalore is known as high-tech city in India. I experienced that >the > > common people are showing negative attitude towards blinds. I am >sharing > > just 2 examples for you here to show that though we can list our so >much > > achievements but still we have shown the mirror by society. > >1. Just Fayaz and I board in an auto and gone to some place. we >just > > forgot to take change so after getting down I gave a 100 rupee note to > > > that auto person. he had the change but he abused us in these words in > > > local language."blinds always want free service they made for begging > > only" after long argument he gave us the change. > > > > 2. on the next day We have been to a local park called Lal baag. after > > > reaching there just we asked in the counter "where is the gate?" In >return > > the ticket seller told the road adding this fraise "begging is not >allowed > > inside" then he abused with local language. We have taken action >according > > to the situation. > > > >As a regular traveler I am moving here and there in India. I never >saw > > this kind of aggressive and negative attitude any where ells. in >northern > > India we are known as Soor dass sometimes we have to fight with others >but > > this is the first time I experience that all classes of a high-tech >city > > are showing negative attitude towards a particular category. > > > >'where there is smoke there is fire' through my experience I can >say > > that in Bangalore it has been projected that blinds are beggars only >This > > projection has come in organized way.I do not know who is behind this >but > > people can change this attitude who are between us. I can understand >that > > the blinds of Bangalore may feel uncomfortable after reading this mail >but > > if this attitude will change then it will comfortable to all of us in >long > > run. > > > > Where there is the will there is the way. > > > > With hope > > Abhijit > > Hyderabad > > To unsubscribe send a message to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with the subject unsubscribe. > > > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > > please visit the list home page at > > >http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i >n > > >To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >with the subject unsubscribe. > >To change y
Re: [AI] an interesting but shokking observation about Benglore
Hi, Being a part of both the incidents that Abhijit has mentioned in his mail, I can term them unfortunate. Having spent all my years in this city I can safely conclude that generally attitude towards the visually impaired is reasonable. The 2 instances only highlight the lack of awareness amongst public particularly in those people who does not have access to modern ways of the visually impaired and those who have had bad experiences with blind people. This is true because 1 as Subramani mentioned the perception towards the blind and 2 due to some individuals and groups of individuals who have projected blind in such a way. What is required is a constant effort on the part of individuals and organizations working for the blind to work to enlighten the people to change such attitudes. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Subramani L Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 2:20 PM To: Ashwani Jassal; accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] an interesting but shokking observation about Benglore Hai: Living in Bangalore, I must tell you that I have never experienced this even once; if I will face the problem in future, I know not. But, the most basic issue here is the perception of the blind as beggers by the society. Yes, it hurts, but who suffers the damage depends on the attitude. When someone refers to you as a begger, say in the case of the autowala, I would have perhaps walked away without picking up the change. It's costly and we can't do this very often, but if you get a chance you can do at least once. After this I am sure the other person will be feeling bad, not you. Regarding the Lalbagh incident, when someone abuses you publicly, you must tell him/her in no uncertain terms that you have come there to spend a pleasant evening and they have spoilt it. Reminding them how their own family member would have felt while hearing something like this, you must walk out creating a big fuss, so that others notice and you can spread the word. Make sure you talk in the most polished English, reminding them that their perception is wrong. Subramani -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ashwani Jassal Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 1:24 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] an interesting but shokking observation about Benglore very bad but these people come from lower community that is why they don't know the potential of blind people. A campaign has to be launched to make people aware of the qualities of blind people. - Original Message - From: "Abhijit Joshi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 1:13 PM Subject: [AI] an interesting but shokking observation about Benglore > Hello friends, >Last weekend I spent with our 1 of the members Fayez pasha. I have been > to Bangalore to celebrate Ied with him. > >Bangalore is known as high-tech city in India. I experienced that the > common people are showing negative attitude towards blinds. I am sharing > just 2 examples for you here to show that though we can list our so much > achievements but still we have shown the mirror by society. >1. Just Fayaz and I board in an auto and gone to some place. we just > forgot to take change so after getting down I gave a 100 rupee note to > that auto person. he had the change but he abused us in these words in > local language."blinds always want free service they made for begging > only" after long argument he gave us the change. > > 2. on the next day We have been to a local park called Lal baag. after > reaching there just we asked in the counter "where is the gate?" In return > the ticket seller told the road adding this fraise "begging is not allowed > inside" then he abused with local language. We have taken action according > to the situation. > >As a regular traveler I am moving here and there in India. I never saw > this kind of aggressive and negative attitude any where ells. in northern > India we are known as Soor dass sometimes we have to fight with others but > this is the first time I experience that all classes of a high-tech city > are showing negative attitude towards a particular category. > >'where there is smoke there is fire' through my experience I can say > that in Bangalore it has been projected that blinds are beggars only This > projection has come in organized way.I do not know who is behind this but > people can change this attitude who are between us. I can understand that > the blinds of Bangalore may feel uncomfortable after reading this mail but > if this attitude will change then it will comfortable to all of us in long > run. > > Where there is the will there is the way. > > With hope > Abhijit > H
Re: [AI] an interesting but shokking observation about Benglore
Hai: Living in Bangalore, I must tell you that I have never experienced this even once; if I will face the problem in future, I know not. But, the most basic issue here is the perception of the blind as beggers by the society. Yes, it hurts, but who suffers the damage depends on the attitude. When someone refers to you as a begger, say in the case of the autowala, I would have perhaps walked away without picking up the change. It's costly and we can't do this very often, but if you get a chance you can do at least once. After this I am sure the other person will be feeling bad, not you. Regarding the Lalbagh incident, when someone abuses you publicly, you must tell him/her in no uncertain terms that you have come there to spend a pleasant evening and they have spoilt it. Reminding them how their own family member would have felt while hearing something like this, you must walk out creating a big fuss, so that others notice and you can spread the word. Make sure you talk in the most polished English, reminding them that their perception is wrong. Subramani -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ashwani Jassal Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 1:24 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] an interesting but shokking observation about Benglore very bad but these people come from lower community that is why they don't know the potential of blind people. A campaign has to be launched to make people aware of the qualities of blind people. - Original Message - From: "Abhijit Joshi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 1:13 PM Subject: [AI] an interesting but shokking observation about Benglore > Hello friends, >Last weekend I spent with our 1 of the members Fayez pasha. I have been > to Bangalore to celebrate Ied with him. > >Bangalore is known as high-tech city in India. I experienced that the > common people are showing negative attitude towards blinds. I am sharing > just 2 examples for you here to show that though we can list our so much > achievements but still we have shown the mirror by society. >1. Just Fayaz and I board in an auto and gone to some place. we just > forgot to take change so after getting down I gave a 100 rupee note to > that auto person. he had the change but he abused us in these words in > local language."blinds always want free service they made for begging > only" after long argument he gave us the change. > > 2. on the next day We have been to a local park called Lal baag. after > reaching there just we asked in the counter "where is the gate?" In return > the ticket seller told the road adding this fraise "begging is not allowed > inside" then he abused with local language. We have taken action according > to the situation. > >As a regular traveler I am moving here and there in India. I never saw > this kind of aggressive and negative attitude any where ells. in northern > India we are known as Soor dass sometimes we have to fight with others but > this is the first time I experience that all classes of a high-tech city > are showing negative attitude towards a particular category. > >'where there is smoke there is fire' through my experience I can say > that in Bangalore it has been projected that blinds are beggars only This > projection has come in organized way.I do not know who is behind this but > people can change this attitude who are between us. I can understand that > the blinds of Bangalore may feel uncomfortable after reading this mail but > if this attitude will change then it will comfortable to all of us in long > run. > > Where there is the will there is the way. > > With hope > Abhijit > Hyderabad > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i n To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.i n To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] an interesting but shokking observation about Benglore
Hello Ashwani, I all ready shareed 2 examples this is the attitude of all classes of that city. even in higher and middle class also Abhijit Hyderabad - Original Message - From: "Ashwani Jassal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 1:24 PM Subject: Re: [AI] an interesting but shokking observation about Benglore > very bad but these people come from lower community that is why they don't > know the potential of blind people. A campaign has to be launched to make > people aware of the qualities of blind people. > - Original Message - > From: "Abhijit Joshi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 1:13 PM > Subject: [AI] an interesting but shokking observation about Benglore > > >> Hello friends, >>Last weekend I spent with our 1 of the members Fayez pasha. I have >> been >> to Bangalore to celebrate Ied with him. >> >>Bangalore is known as high-tech city in India. I experienced that the >> common people are showing negative attitude towards blinds. I am sharing >> just 2 examples for you here to show that though we can list our so much >> achievements but still we have shown the mirror by society. >>1. Just Fayaz and I board in an auto and gone to some place. we just >> forgot to take change so after getting down I gave a 100 rupee note to >> that auto person. he had the change but he abused us in these words in >> local language."blinds always want free service they made for begging >> only" after long argument he gave us the change. >> >> 2. on the next day We have been to a local park called Lal baag. after >> reaching there just we asked in the counter "where is the gate?" In >> return >> the ticket seller told the road adding this fraise "begging is not >> allowed >> inside" then he abused with local language. We have taken action >> according >> to the situation. >> >>As a regular traveler I am moving here and there in India. I never saw >> this kind of aggressive and negative attitude any where ells. in northern >> India we are known as Soor dass sometimes we have to fight with others >> but >> this is the first time I experience that all classes of a high-tech city >> are showing negative attitude towards a particular category. >> >>'where there is smoke there is fire' through my experience I can say >> that in Bangalore it has been projected that blinds are beggars only This >> projection has come in organized way.I do not know who is behind this but >> people can change this attitude who are between us. I can understand that >> the blinds of Bangalore may feel uncomfortable after reading this mail >> but >> if this attitude will change then it will comfortable to all of us in >> long >> run. >> >> Where there is the will there is the way. >> >> With hope >> Abhijit >> Hyderabad >> To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> with the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> please visit the list home page at >> >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] an interesting but shokking observation about Benglore
very bad but these people come from lower community that is why they don't know the potential of blind people. A campaign has to be launched to make people aware of the qualities of blind people. - Original Message - From: "Abhijit Joshi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 1:13 PM Subject: [AI] an interesting but shokking observation about Benglore > Hello friends, >Last weekend I spent with our 1 of the members Fayez pasha. I have been > to Bangalore to celebrate Ied with him. > >Bangalore is known as high-tech city in India. I experienced that the > common people are showing negative attitude towards blinds. I am sharing > just 2 examples for you here to show that though we can list our so much > achievements but still we have shown the mirror by society. >1. Just Fayaz and I board in an auto and gone to some place. we just > forgot to take change so after getting down I gave a 100 rupee note to > that auto person. he had the change but he abused us in these words in > local language."blinds always want free service they made for begging > only" after long argument he gave us the change. > > 2. on the next day We have been to a local park called Lal baag. after > reaching there just we asked in the counter "where is the gate?" In return > the ticket seller told the road adding this fraise "begging is not allowed > inside" then he abused with local language. We have taken action according > to the situation. > >As a regular traveler I am moving here and there in India. I never saw > this kind of aggressive and negative attitude any where ells. in northern > India we are known as Soor dass sometimes we have to fight with others but > this is the first time I experience that all classes of a high-tech city > are showing negative attitude towards a particular category. > >'where there is smoke there is fire' through my experience I can say > that in Bangalore it has been projected that blinds are beggars only This > projection has come in organized way.I do not know who is behind this but > people can change this attitude who are between us. I can understand that > the blinds of Bangalore may feel uncomfortable after reading this mail but > if this attitude will change then it will comfortable to all of us in long > run. > > Where there is the will there is the way. > > With hope > Abhijit > Hyderabad > To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
[AI] an interesting but shokking observation about Benglore
Hello friends, Last weekend I spent with our 1 of the members Fayez pasha. I have been to Bangalore to celebrate Ied with him. Bangalore is known as high-tech city in India. I experienced that the common people are showing negative attitude towards blinds. I am sharing just 2 examples for you here to show that though we can list our so much achievements but still we have shown the mirror by society. 1. Just Fayaz and I board in an auto and gone to some place. we just forgot to take change so after getting down I gave a 100 rupee note to that auto person. he had the change but he abused us in these words in local language."blinds always want free service they made for begging only" after long argument he gave us the change. 2. on the next day We have been to a local park called Lal baag. after reaching there just we asked in the counter "where is the gate?" In return the ticket seller told the road adding this fraise "begging is not allowed inside" then he abused with local language. We have taken action according to the situation. As a regular traveler I am moving here and there in India. I never saw this kind of aggressive and negative attitude any where ells. in northern India we are known as Soor dass sometimes we have to fight with others but this is the first time I experience that all classes of a high-tech city are showing negative attitude towards a particular category. 'where there is smoke there is fire' through my experience I can say that in Bangalore it has been projected that blinds are beggars only This projection has come in organized way.I do not know who is behind this but people can change this attitude who are between us. I can understand that the blinds of Bangalore may feel uncomfortable after reading this mail but if this attitude will change then it will comfortable to all of us in long run. Where there is the will there is the way. With hope Abhijit Hyderabad To unsubscribe send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in