Moderator: Thread closedRe: [AI] Welcome: Release of Dr. G N Saibaba

2022-10-18 Thread Harish Kotian

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Despite warning, members continue to post on this thread.

The following 4 members: Amiyo, Asif, Vivek and Yogesh will not be able 
to post henceforth.



No excuse will be entertained for violation.

I hope no more is added to this list.


Harish Kotian

Moderator


On 18/10/2022 15:31, yogesh dubey wrote:

its not about speaking against the state  or criticizing  it on any
issue of governance  we all do it at some time. its about declaring a
war against the nation and trying to destroy   india and making it a
communist dictatorship like china. we all know what maoists are doing
in india and what is their purpose and how many personals of security
forces has been killed by these terrorists.  just because some one is
facing any kind of disability we cannot allow him to be involved  in
terrorist activities against the nation and if anybody  supports these
kind of people who are against unity and integrity   of india then its
sure that he is an antinational person. i think that its the
responsibility   of the moderator  to not allow naksalite or any kind
of anti indian propaganda on the list and i don't thing that it is the
purpose  of this list too.

On 10/18/22, 'Mohammed Asif Iqbal (IN)' via AccessIndia
 wrote:

I could not agree More AmiyoDa.
My perception isof this whole things that it is political narrative
and one side of the story.
I am going to honour moderator and closing all thread and hope noone
else response further.
Have a superb day!!
Asif


On 10/18/22, Amiyo Biswas  wrote:

Anybody speaking against the state may be declared as antinational, even
if

he is speaking for the common people. If he fights for disability rights,
we

should honour him for it at least. I am sorry that I am writing even
after
the moderator's warning. I also want this thread to be closed.

With best regards,
Amiyo Biswas
Cell: 6290527506

- Original Message -
From: "yogesh dubey" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2022 1:20 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Welcome: Release of Dr. G N Saibaba


completely  agree with Sandesh sir and  Avichal Bhatnagar  just
because some one is disabled  he cannot be allowed to do anti national
activities and organisations should not start supporting a terrorist
just because he is disabled. its same as a muslim supporting ajmal
kasab or a sikh supporting bindravala. these people folow same mao who
attacked india in 1962 and killed more than 3 thousand indian soldiers
and their naksalite   killed a lot of indian soldiers
regularly in the forests of chattisgarh and jharkhand.

On 10/18/22, vivek doddamani  wrote:

I wonder why NPRD is bringing this criminal person news in this
platform, this Dr.Saibaba was a professor in Delhi University there
also he Taught students anti national views, though he is disabled why
should he involve in anti national elements, and this NPRD is also
behaving like Disabled Naksal group, there are many other issues
related disabled persons education & employment but bringing this
criminal Dr.Saibaba news in this group could not be accepted, I
request Moderator to strictly warn this NPRD or remove them from this
group.

On 10/14/22, National Platform For The Rights of the Disabled
 wrote:

October 14, 2022



*Press Release*





The National Platform for the Rights of the Disabled (NPRD) welcomes
the
verdict delivered by the Nagpur Bench of the Bombay High Court
acquitting
Dr. G. N Saibaba and others of the charges framed under the UAPA.



As far Dr. Saibaba is concerned the NPRD has been consistently raising
the
issue of non-provision of “reasonable accommodation” as also several
rights
to a prisoner with disability as mandated by various international
laws,
covenants, the Nelson Mandela Rules, the United Nations Convention on
Rights of Persons with Disabilities, the Rights of Persons with
Disabilities Act, 2016 etc.



Under both the RPD Act and the UNCRPD the right to inherent dignity of
the
person is recognised as a guiding principle. Persons with disabilities
are
given the right to access to justice, which obviously includes
prisoners
with disabilities as well.



In spite of repeated appeals by human rights organisations, democratic
minded people and disability rights organisations, Dr. Saibaba was
denied
bail even on medical grounds, though his health was deteriorating due
to
19
medical conditions, some of them life-threatening, not to speak of the
inaccessibility of jail premises and the invasion into his privacy.



We hope that with his release he would be able to get adequate medical
attention.



The NPRD salutes the courage, commitment and relentless struggle and
resolve of Saibaba’s wife Vasanta and all others who stood with him in
the
fight for justice.









*(Muralidharan)*

*General Secretary*

*National Platform for the Rights of the Disabled (NPRD)*



--
National Platform for the Rights of the Disabled (NPRD)
36, Pt. Ravishankar Shukla Lane
New Delhi 110 001
Tel. 11-23387674; 9868768543

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Disclaimer:
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Moderator: thread closedRe: [AI] Welcome: Release of Dr. G N Saibaba

2022-10-17 Thread Harish Kotian

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This thread continues to be closed.

Any more mail on this thread will invite  action. This is final warning.

Harish Kotian

Moderator


On 17/10/2022 20:18, Ved wrote:


Of course, as Harish Ji said, this topic is not to be discussed in this list.

However, let me state it clearly that we need to differentiate between 
disability matters and politico Legal issues.

Currently, foreign forces are trying their level best to arouse chaos and 
create disturbances in our society which is already highly sensitive to such 
issues.

We should refrain from supporting any nexel establishment which may hamper the 
real cause of disability. NPRd is requested to be more careful while posting 
such messages. Though let me admit that many of their actions have helped the 
disabled community.

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  On Behalf 
Of Sandesh
Sent: 17 October 2022 02:51 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Welcome: Release of Dr. G N Saibaba

  


Namaskar all!

  


Just read this Welcome mail.

  


When did Access India become the platform for Naxalite sympathisers and promoters? NPRD 
is free to run its Naxal business in name of disability rights organisation by quoting 
various related laws and acts. It's free too even shelter these hard-core criminals, 
urban naxals and AntiIndia elements. It is even free to mingle disability everywhere to 
run its "Dukan" without any shame and that is too at the cost of making 
attempts of defaming entire disabled society. But why these promotional messages 
(Spamming our Inboxes) of this Saibaba and late Stain Swami are here on AI platform?

  


Is NPRD loves to be afiliated to a particular political party? It proved to be 
so again and again. Let's see from current perspective:

  


Jairam Ramesh from a particular political party came to the twitter on October 14 after 
The Bombay High Court acquitted Saibaba, he wrote to defend this criminal that 
"Wheelchair-bound Prof GN Saibaba’s acquittal after 5 years in jail proves that 
‘urban naxal’ tag invented by PM’s brigade is completely bogus. Many others are still in 
wholly unjustifiable custody. Such smear tactics must be resisted.I wouldnt be surprised 
if PM calls me one too"!

  


NPRD in tune with this particular Political dispensation is making an attempt 
to portray Saibaba and the Urban Naxals as innocent, and that the investigation 
conducted by the police and other authorities was flawed. NPRD is bringing 
disability shamelessly here.

  


Since this matter is posted on this list, let me bring few more observations 
here to the knoledge of NPRD as well as its supporters and tears shedders  for 
such criminals which they have been doing to blame current political 
dispensation and our PM through all possible means including disability:

  


Search in GN Saibaba’s house: Sept 9, 2013
HM: Sushilkumar Shinde
PM: Manmohan Singh
Govt: of Particular Political party.

  


Arrest of GNSaibaba: May 9, 2014
HM: Sushilkumar Shinde
PM: Manmohan Singh
Govt: of Particular Political Party.

  


Saibaba and other alleged suspects were taken into custody between 2013 and 
2014.  Numerous papers, a hard drive, and pen drives were reportedly taken from 
Saibaba’s house by the police. The academic, who had been suspended by the 
university, was imprisoned until the Bombay High Court granted him bail in May 
2015 on the basis of his health. Before the Supreme Court granted him bail in 
September 2016, he was imprisoned once again.

  


In March 2017, they were found guilty of participating in suspected Maoist 
activities. Vijay Tirki received harsh imprisonment since he was a first-time 
offender; the other five prisoners, including Saibaba, received life sentences.

  


The important point here is  Saibaba was arrested first under the particular 
political party and it was the same particular political party that warned 
first of Urban Naxals - “Maoists mobilise urban population through a front. 
These thinkers and academics malign state institutions through disinformation. 
2013 affidavit.”

  


The apex court also rejected Saibaba’s appeal to keep him under house arrest 
and not in jail due to his medical condition. The bench said that this request 
cannot be accepted at this stage when the accused was already convicted by 
trial court.
Our Solicitor General Tushar Mehta very nicely stated that “There is a recent tendency 
from Urban Naxals’ frequently seeking house arrest instead of jail" in GN Saibaba 
hearing. He also said that even from home he can communicate with Maoists and keep 
running antinational agenda. "Everything can be done from within the home for them. 
even by phone. Please say that house arrest can never be an option,” Tushar Mehta said.

  


The supreme court bench hearing the case stated that they believe the case is 
eligible to suspend the HC’s challenged judgement and order. The bench said in 
its reasons for the ruling that the defendants were convicted following a 
th