Re: [AI] new changes in EVMS

2013-05-21 Thread Sagar Sodah
it should be straight forward to make the printer give audio output of what
it is printing, which could be heard through earphones.

Now since Election Commission is not up to date with Access India mailing
list, i suppose we will have to take it up with them if we want to do
anything on this issue.

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On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 6:34 PM, Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in wrote:

 Dear Pavan

 I suppose, I got it wrong, I was under the impression, this printout was
 for us to keep and carry with us. From what I gather from your reply, it
 has to be deposited at the polling station and if need be, the hard copy
 could be used for counting in case there is any dispute of mollified
 practise.

 In that case, what I can suggest, this device should be an add-on with no
 electrical connection with the main EVM. It should be able to update by GSM
 / 3g / WIFI / Lanand collect voice prompts from the EC website and assist
 voters using EVM. Maybe it can be placed over the EVM panel and could be
 placed on demand / request.

 This would have larger acceptance and it need not be priced prohivitively.
 The development would of course take some time. The proof of concept can be
 vetted.

 Harish Kotian.

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf Of pavan kumar lingam
 Sent: 20 May 2013 15:21
 To: accessindia
 Subject: Re: [AI] new changes in EVMS

 dear Harish
 EC will notpermit us to take the eprint paper  outside  the poling
 station so doing OCR may not be posible  unless we make use of our
 mobile phone againmost of us have  have basic phones  so i don't
 think this option would be viable  please explain it clearly  if
 understood  it in a wrong manner.
 regards,

 --
 l.pavan(help ever  hurt never)

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Re: [AI] new changes in EVMS

2013-05-20 Thread Kotian, H P
Friends

In my personal opinion, bringing more electronics to EVM may not find favour 
with EC. In this modified form, we must understand,that access technology is 
not going to read symbols and we need to impress that an additional numver 
which would be a look up numver identifying the party  symbol need to e 
printed. By doing OCR on the print out we can be sure if the vote has been cast 
properly.

Agreed, lot of technology intervention, however, there does not seem to be a 
simpler solution.

Regards
Harish Kotian

 
-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
pavan kumar lingam
Sent: 20 May 2013 11:32
To: accessindia
Subject: [AI] new changes in EVMS

Dear access Indians warm greetings
All of us know that after huge struggle election commission of India
(ECI) agreed to make EVMs accessible by placing Braille labels on
them. even this is not implemented in all places.
Now because of abjections raised by some of the political parties and
other organizations on functioning of EVMs ECI is planning to
introduce a new feature known as VVPAT (voter verified paper audit
trial) according to which after a person casts his / her vote a print
out will be issued on a piece of paper which indicates the name and
symbol of the candidate to whom the vote has been casted.
 here we visually challenged persons have no way of knowing the
accuracy of our vote since we cannot read the paper so this is the
right time that we step in  and ensure that necessary changes like
making EVMs voice enabled like ATMs or any other such changes are made
before new feature is implemented.
There fore I request learned members of this list to throw some light
on this matter
thanks and regards,

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Re: [AI] new changes in EVMS

2013-05-20 Thread pavan kumar lingam
dear Harish
EC will notpermit us to take the eprint paper  outside  the poling
station so doing OCR may not be posible  unless we make use of our
mobile phone againmost of us have  have basic phones  so i don't
think this option would be viable  please explain it clearly  if
understood  it in a wrong manner.
regards,

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Re: [AI] new changes in EVMS

2013-05-20 Thread Kotian, H P
Dear Pavan

I suppose, I got it wrong, I was under the impression, this printout was for us 
to keep and carry with us. From what I gather from your reply, it has to be 
deposited at the polling station and if need be, the hard copy could be used 
for counting in case there is any dispute of mollified practise.

In that case, what I can suggest, this device should be an add-on with no 
electrical connection with the main EVM. It should be able to update by GSM / 
3g / WIFI / Lanand collect voice prompts from the EC website and assist voters 
using EVM. Maybe it can be placed over the EVM panel and could be placed on 
demand / request.
 
This would have larger acceptance and it need not be priced prohivitively. The 
development would of course take some time. The proof of concept can be vetted.

Harish Kotian.
 
-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
pavan kumar lingam
Sent: 20 May 2013 15:21
To: accessindia
Subject: Re: [AI] new changes in EVMS

dear Harish
EC will notpermit us to take the eprint paper  outside  the poling
station so doing OCR may not be posible  unless we make use of our
mobile phone againmost of us have  have basic phones  so i don't
think this option would be viable  please explain it clearly  if
understood  it in a wrong manner.
regards,

-- 
l.pavan(help ever  hurt never)

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