Re: [Acegisecurity-developer] Vote: Change to build system and CVS layout

2004-10-19 Thread Ben Alex
Ben Alex wrote:
I should emphasize that typical Acegi Security users will not be 
impacted at all from these changes, except perhaps defining the 
correct substitute for AutoIntegrationFilter in web.xml. Users already 
need to build the samples using Ant, so the need to build the samples 
via Maven shouldn't be a major issue.

Any comments, concerns, support, votes etc regarding the above are 
most welcome.

Any response to the above? If nobody has any objections within the next 
24 hours, we'll make the changes.

Thanks
Ben

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RE: [Acegisecurity-developer] Vote: Change to build system and CVS layout

2004-10-19 Thread March, Andres
+1 

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> Ben Alex wrote:
> 
> >
> > I should emphasize that typical Acegi Security users will not be
> > impacted at all from these changes, except perhaps defining the
> > correct substitute for AutoIntegrationFilter in web.xml. Users
already
> > need to build the samples using Ant, so the need to build the
samples
> > via Maven shouldn't be a major issue.
> >
> > Any comments, concerns, support, votes etc regarding the above are
> > most welcome.
> >
> Any response to the above? If nobody has any objections within the
next
> 24 hours, we'll make the changes.
> 
> Thanks
> Ben
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> 
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RE: [Acegisecurity-developer] Vote: Change to build system and CVS layout

2004-10-20 Thread Shishir K. Singh
Okay with it , though I am not too fond of maven :)

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Ben Alex wrote:

>
> I should emphasize that typical Acegi Security users will not be 
> impacted at all from these changes, except perhaps defining the 
> correct substitute for AutoIntegrationFilter in web.xml. Users already 
> need to build the samples using Ant, so the need to build the samples 
> via Maven shouldn't be a major issue.
>
> Any comments, concerns, support, votes etc regarding the above are 
> most welcome.
>
Any response to the above? If nobody has any objections within the next 
24 hours, we'll make the changes.

Thanks
Ben



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Re: [Acegisecurity-developer] Vote: Change to build system and CVS layout

2004-10-25 Thread Colin Sampaleanu
Ben Alex wrote:
Ben Alex wrote:
I should emphasize that typical Acegi Security users will not be 
impacted at all from these changes, except perhaps defining the 
correct substitute for AutoIntegrationFilter in web.xml. Users 
already need to build the samples using Ant, so the need to build the 
samples via Maven shouldn't be a major issue.

Any comments, concerns, support, votes etc regarding the above are 
most welcome.

Any response to the above? If nobody has any objections within the 
next 24 hours, we'll make the changes.
I was in love with the idea of Maven when I first stumbled upon it more 
than two years ago. However, I find that even now it's somewhat useless 
in exactly some of the usecase where it would theoretically be the most 
useful. For large mutli-project builds, the lack of transitive 
dependencies makes dependency handling way more work than it should be, 
as each project needs to know what dependencies relates projects need. 
Other systems like Savant from Verge handle this nicely. Additionally, 
the insistence on single artifact per project (with then all sorts of 
little exceptions and work-arounds to handle things like ejb client 
jars) ignores reality, and I think shows a lack of a good model for 
actually representing build input and output. Ultimately whether one, 
two, or three artifacts are produced should be irrelevant. Finally, I 
find Maven extremely inflexible for handling the question of different 
sources for integration test, unit test, and normal testing, in terms of 
resource handling among other things.

In any case, for something like the Acegi Security System it probably 
makes sense, since for the most part it's a single project setup. And I 
like the Maven directory layouts.

I don't know if I've been involved enough lately to morally have my vote 
count, :-), and I presume it's a done deal now anyways, but here's my +0.

Colin

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