Re: Closing this list

2015-08-06 Thread Wolfgang Romey
Am 06.08.2015 um 16:05 schrieb Sebastian Kügler:
> Hi,
> 
> As the Plasma Mobile project supercedes Plasma Active, I'd like to close this 
> list to avoid fragmentation.
> 
> At the same time, I'd like to invite those that lurk here, and that haven't 
> seen activity in a while to join the general Plasma mailinglist, and have an 
> eye on the newly created Plasma Mobile forums at 
> https://forum.kde.org/viewforum.php?f=293
> 
> See you on the flipside!
> 

I will go to the flipside. But it would be nice, if you would explain
what it means, that Plasma Mobile supercedes Plasma Active. Can I expect
an iso-file for my WeTab? Will the GUI be similar? And so on.

Thank you very much for yur important work.

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Re: /repodata/repomd.xml not found on medium 'http://releases.nemomobile.org/...'

2014-04-05 Thread Wolfgang Romey
Is PA on hold too? Which I want to know and would understand.

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Re: /repodata/repomd.xml not found on medium 'http://releases.nemomobile.org/...'

2014-03-31 Thread Wolfgang Romey
Am Montag, 31. März 2014, 13:49:12 schrieb Marco Martin:
> On Sunday 30 March 2014, Wolfgang Romey wrote:
> > I have this too. Also something similar with the latest iso in virtualbox.
> > 
> > Is there any activity with PA going on in the moment?
> 
> that url seems reachable. maybe it was just server down for a while
I will test it on my weTab later.
When I start the latest iso in virtualbox, I can reach the repro and about 60 
updatable files are found. When I install the same iso, I get the message, 
that something with rpm is broken before I reach the repos.

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Re: /repodata/repomd.xml not found on medium 'http://releases.nemomobile.org/...'

2014-03-30 Thread Wolfgang Romey
Am Samstag, 29. März 2014, 12:08:45 schrieb David Talmage:
> That's what I get when I run 'zypper refresh'.
> 
> Is this a permanent error or a transient one?
> 
> The full URL in question is
> http://releases.nemomobile.org/snapshots/repos/hw/x86/x86-common/0.20130619.
> 0.1/i586/
> 
> I tried visiting just http://releases.nemomobile.org and was surprised to
> receive the Not Found page and the message "The requested URL /nemomobile/
> was not found on this server."
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I have this too. Also something similar with the latest iso in virtualbox.

Is there any activity with PA going on in the moment? 

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Re: PA 4 update release?

2014-02-23 Thread Wolfgang Romey
It would be very sad, if marble would not work, as for me it is an appliction, 
which i use very often on my weTab. Then I would not install the new release. 
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Re: PA 4 update release?

2014-02-15 Thread Wolfgang Romey
Am Samstag, 15. Februar 2014, 18:27:13 schrieb Marco Martin:
> On Saturday 25 January 2014, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > hi...
> > 
> > there were some changes in kde-workspace in 4.11 that breaks the build of
> > plasma-mobile. yet another person came into #active on irc tonight stumped
> > by this. plasma-mobile’s master branch does build, however.
> > 
> > i’d like to propose that we do an interim PA4 release based on what is in
> > master right now so that it builds against 4.11
> > 
> > the packages being delivered on the most recent MerOS that sports Plasma
> > Desktop and SDDM have a build from master iirc, anyways?
> > 
> > Marco, what do you think?
> 
> I invite people trying:
> http://makeplaylive.com/~notmart/plasma-active-i586-latest-devel-20140215.is
> o
> 
> it's built from devel
> 
> if it doesn't have any particular problems (as in, regressions from pa4)
> 
> i'll move those packages to testing, then eventually to stable (with release
> iso and all)
I have installed it in virtualbox and until now found only one bug:

marble is crashing.

Maybe there are problems with the mediaplayer. It starts when i click a media 
file in files, but there is no sound or image.

Did you remember the magic bit, so i can install on my weTab?

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Re: PA 4 update release?

2014-01-26 Thread Wolfgang Romey
Am Samstag, 25. Januar 2014, 18:37:50 schrieb Aaron J. Seigo:
> hi...
> 
> there were some changes in kde-workspace in 4.11 that breaks the build of
> plasma-mobile. yet another person came into #active on irc tonight stumped
> by this. plasma-mobile’s master branch does build, however.
> 
> i’d like to propose that we do an interim PA4 release based on what is in
> master right now so that it builds against 4.11
> 
> the packages being delivered on the most recent MerOS that sports Plasma
> Desktop and SDDM have a build from master iirc, anyways?
> 
> Marco, what do you think?
That would be great.  Maybe then there is the chance to polish some things 
before the PA5 release (see my mails; in the meantime i found some more 
things)

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Re: Polishing PA4

2013-12-27 Thread Wolfgang Romey
Am Dienstag, 3. Dezember 2013, 08:52:15 schrieb Wolfgang Romey:
> I think, it makes sense, to sort the points a little bit:
> 
> Things, that can/must be done by the PA-community:
> > 1.) Syncing contacts and calendar via own cloud does not work anymore (i
> > filed a bug report). Both are essential for tablet users.
> 
> Fixed through the latest update.
> 
> 2.) I cannot add feeds to the feed-reader. I can copy the feed-url and paste
> it in the reader, but pressing OK does not work.
> 
> 3.) Files should have a way to show only files which are not tagged or show
> the tags of already tagged files.
> 
> 4.) Make games, which are offered via bodega usable.
> 
> 5.) Files should have a way of creating a file. When you are  for example in
> documents, it should be possible to start an editor via creating new
> document. That`s some kind of task-orientation.
> 
> 6.) At least one further example of task-orientation should be realized.
> Maybe writing and sending a report or something simpler.
> 
> 
> Things, that should be done through the KDE-Community
> 7.) There should be a sketching applikation (which starts via files the same
> way as described for documents).
> 
> 8.) NEW: Make Ksnapshot usable in PA. It can be installed, but I did not
> find a way to trigger the screen shot or shut Ksapshot down.
> 
> 9.) It should be possible to synchronize tags between PA and desktop. It is
> a bit frustrating, that one has for example to tag images on the desktop
> and tag them again in PA.
> 
> 10.) Optimize more Appsfor the touch-screen.
> 
> 11.) Offer Apps, which are not optimized for a touch-screen, but usable
> without problems. KStars is one of them. YOu offer Kwrite, wich is not
> optimized.
> 
> 
> Things, that must be done by others:
> 12.) Unfortunately playing mpX-media is a must for tablets. This should be
> possible on vivaldi.
> 
> Wolfgang
Three more points:

13. The browser does not show the correct previews. Previews are shown rather 
randomly.
14. KShnapshot is installable but with the touchscreen.
15. KWallet needs an GUI for the touchscreen.

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Re: kded4 seg fault

2013-12-27 Thread Wolfgang Romey
Am Donnerstag, 26. Dezember 2013, 19:41:24 schrieb Marco Martin:
> On Tuesday 24 December 2013, Mark Petersen wrote:
> > > is it still crashing even after reboot?
> > > if you can get in with ssh, you can try to launch individual components
> > > (like, kwinactive_gles, plasma-device, kdeinit4)
> > > and see what of those do crash?
> > 
> > Yes, the crashing happens after reboot.
> 
> The update process didn't correctly update the networkmanager plasmoid, now
> versions shipped are fixed.
> another update should fix it.
> 
> Also, now pa4 installations in general should be safe to update, the problem
> shouldn't happen again.
> 
> 
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The update worked without problems on my weTab with the iso from 19.12.13.

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Re: New iso of PA4

2013-12-27 Thread Wolfgang Romey
I use the iso from 19.12.13, which I could install today without problems. I 
updated it and everything seems to work fine on my debian sid machine.

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Re: owncloud from addons can not be installed

2013-12-23 Thread Wolfgang Romey
Am Montag, 23. Dezember 2013, 10:34:29 schrieb Marco Martin:
> On Saturday 21 December 2013, Wolfgang Romey wrote:
> > I just installed the latest iso on my weTab and tried to install owncloud
> > from bodega, but only got an error message. So i installed it from the
> > repos and everything works fine.
> 
> An annoying thing about the obs integration has surfaced: every time a
> rebuild is being triggered on the obs repo, the rpm build number (and
> therefore the filename) changes, for bodega to find it i need to manually
> change all the descriptors on the server.
> I now updated owncloud and tabletreader, both should be installable again.
> 
> I have a patch in Bodega that adresses it, but hasn't been toroughly tested
> yet, and needs so before, because is pretty invasive.
> I would prefer to delay adding any new rpm in bodega before that patch
> tough, since this annoying manual update is needed right now.
> 
> > BTW, were the games removed from bodega?
> 
> The games have not been published yet, and that's fine, I want to have a
> more robust system beforehand.
> 
> Cheers,
> Marco Martin
Thank you very much for your explaination, it shows again, how complex things 
are.
Thank you very much for your work and a great christmas.

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owncloud from addons can not be installed

2013-12-21 Thread Wolfgang Romey
I just installed the latest iso on my weTab and tried to install owncloud from 
bodega, but only got an error message. So i installed it from the repos and 
everything works fine. 

BTW, were the games removed from bodega?

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Re: New iso of PA4

2013-12-20 Thread Wolfgang Romey
Am Donnerstag, 19. Dezember 2013, 21:47:27 schrieb Marco Martin:
> On Thursday 19 December 2013 18:42:00 Wolfgang Romey wrote:
> > I have tried my luck, unfortunately with frustrating results. In
> > virtualbox
> > the iso boots fine and has network-connection, which works. After
> > installing it, the network connection does not work any more. I have not
> > tested, if it is still crashing.
> > At thr end of the installation, i get the message, that some packages are
> > missing.
> > 
> > Installing on my weTab was not possible, as it did not find a bootable
> > system on the stick. I tried to make it bootable with unetbootin, but i
> > had
> > no success.
> > 
> >  Do you have any ideas?
> 
> ha! right, i always forget that the wetab bios wants some magic in front of
> isos to boot them (since i have an exopc that is almost identic but has a
> real bios)
> 
> I modified that iso, now it should work.
> 
> as documented on the kickstarts readme, you can also correct your own iso
> with the command as root (with all the care a dangerous command like that
> implies)
> 
> printf "\x9d\x2a\x44\x7b"|dd of=plasma-active-i586-stable-2013-12-10.iso
> conv=notrunc bs=1 count=4 seek=440
> 
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The new iso works on my weTab. Thanx.

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Re: New iso of PA4

2013-12-19 Thread Wolfgang Romey
Am Donnerstag, 19. Dezember 2013, 13:05:59 schrieb Wolfgang Romey:
> Am Donnerstag, 19. Dezember 2013, 12:54:32 schrieb Marco Martin:
> > On Thursday 19 December 2013, Wolfgang Romey wrote:
> > > As I wrote, i tested the latest iso on virtualbox. The live-image
> > > worked,
> > > but after installation i had no network-connection and no wallpapers in
> > > the activities. When i tried to set a wallpaper PA4 crashed and made
> > > virtualbox crash too.
> > > As i got no reaction on my report and no one wrote, that the iso worked
> > > on
> > > the weTab, i did not try it there.
> > > 
> > > So now, i will test it on my weTab, folder mer is allready safed, and,
> > > as
> > > there is a new version of virtualbox in debian, in virtualbox again. I
> > > will
> > > report.
> > 
> > as far i remember, network never worked on virtualbox for me, at least not
> > since it was switched to Mer. I would like to know if anyboady has an idea
> > why.
> > I guess the kernel of the official x86 hardware adaptation of nemo doesn't
> > have drivers for the virtual ethernet devices supprted by virtualbox?
> 
> Until the latest update, network worked without problems in virtualbox on my
> debian unstable installation. I allways tried updating in virtualbox before
> updating my weTab.
> 
> Wolfgang
I have tried my luck, unfortunately with frustrating results. In virtualbox 
the iso boots fine and has network-connection, which works. After installing 
it, the network connection does not work any more. I have not tested, if it is 
still crashing.
At thr end of the installation, i get the message, that some packages are 
missing.

Installing on my weTab was not possible, as it did not find a bootable system 
on the stick. I tried to make it bootable with unetbootin, but i had no 
success. 
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Re: New iso of PA4

2013-12-19 Thread Wolfgang Romey
Am Donnerstag, 19. Dezember 2013, 12:54:32 schrieb Marco Martin:
> On Thursday 19 December 2013, Wolfgang Romey wrote:
> > As I wrote, i tested the latest iso on virtualbox. The live-image worked,
> > but after installation i had no network-connection and no wallpapers in
> > the activities. When i tried to set a wallpaper PA4 crashed and made
> > virtualbox crash too.
> > As i got no reaction on my report and no one wrote, that the iso worked on
> > the weTab, i did not try it there.
> > 
> > So now, i will test it on my weTab, folder mer is allready safed, and, as
> > there is a new version of virtualbox in debian, in virtualbox again. I
> > will
> > report.
> 
> as far i remember, network never worked on virtualbox for me, at least not
> since it was switched to Mer. I would like to know if anyboady has an idea
> why.
> I guess the kernel of the official x86 hardware adaptation of nemo doesn't
> have drivers for the virtual ethernet devices supprted by virtualbox?
Until the latest update, network worked without problems in virtualbox on my 
debian unstable installation. I allways tried updating in virtualbox before 
updating my weTab.

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Re: New iso of PA4

2013-12-19 Thread Wolfgang Romey
Am Mittwoch, 18. Dezember 2013, 21:01:45 schrieb Marco Martin:
> On Wednesday 18 December 2013, Wolfgang Romey wrote:
> > Has anybody succeeded in updating toor installing the newest image of PA4,
> > which Marco provided, on a weTab?
> > 
> > If not, can I expect a new iso, which works? If the 24 hours of a 
> > day are
> > not enough for providing it, please take a part of the night. :-)
> 
> the current iso works correctly here when installed on a wetab, what are the
> problems you are encountering?
As I wrote, i tested the latest iso on virtualbox. The live-image worked, but 
after installation i had no network-connection and no wallpapers in the 
activities. When i tried to set a wallpaper PA4 crashed and made virtualbox 
crash too. 
As i got no reaction on my report and no one wrote, that the iso worked on the 
weTab, i did not try it there.

So now, i will test it on my weTab, folder mer is allready safed, and, as 
there is a new version of virtualbox in debian, in virtualbox again. I will 
report. 

BTW: Thank you very much for your work, Marco.

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New iso of PA4

2013-12-18 Thread Wolfgang Romey
Has anybody succeeded in updating toor installing the newest image of PA4, 
which Marco provided, on a weTab?

If not, can I expect a new iso, which works? If the 24 hours of a day are 
not 
enough for providing it, please take a part of the night. :-)

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Re: Plasma Active 4 on Modern Tablet (Ramos i12 etc)

2013-12-11 Thread Wolfgang Romey
Am Mittwoch, 11. Dezember 2013, 20:04:32 schrieb Daniel Kreuter:
> Hi,
> 
> The problem is that most of the pa developers don't have these devices so
> it's difficult to provide support for more devices.
> 
> Von meinem iPhone gesendet
> 
> > Am 11.12.2013 um 17:51 schrieb Debby S :
> > 
> > Plasma Active Team: Note that the WeTab/ExoPC is old hardware. Vivaldi
> > tablet is not here. How about porting to modern hardware such as the
> > Ramos i12 tablet etc? How to install and configure Mer and Plasma Active
> > on this? Basyskom please make hybrid iso for modern tablets. Thanks.
> > 
I think the most important problem is, that these devices are at least partly 
closed devices, which get changed without warning. So the problem to make 
things work on a device allways reapears.

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Re: notice on active builds

2013-12-11 Thread Wolfgang Romey
Am Dienstag, 10. Dezember 2013, 10:18:35 schrieb Marco Martin:
> On Monday 09 December 2013, talm...@onespeeddave.com wrote:
> > On Dec 9, 2013 5:23 AM, Marco Martin  wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > > 
> > > brief communication: pa installations should be updated (with a big, big
> > > update) because the build flags of kdelibs changed: we ditched the
> > > mobile profile in favor or a more traditional build.
> > 
> > After the update on my WeTab/ExoPC, both KDE Daemon and Plasma Workspace
> > crash. It happens before wireless networking comes up, so I can't load
> > debugging symbols for a useful bug report.
> 
> btw, i tested that a fresh image seems to work (will publish one shortly) so
> it suggests that somehow not all packages were updated?
I tested a few things:

- i started the latest image in virtualbox. I came up well and seemed to work. 
Then I installed it. It started, but i had no network connection which was 
there in the live image. The activities had no backgrounds. When I tried to 
add a background, PA crashed and made virtualbox crash to.

- Then I downloaded the image from 03.09.2013. THe live image started. After 
the installation it would not start.

- So i downloaded the iso from 29.09.2013. It started after the installation. 
So I updated it. The result were the same crashed as before after the first 
update of my current installation of PA in virtualbox.

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Re: notice on active builds

2013-12-10 Thread Wolfgang Romey
Am Dienstag, 10. Dezember 2013, 13:40:46 schrieb Marco Martin:
> On Tuesday 10 December 2013, Wolfgang Romey wrote:
> > Am Montag, 9. Dezember 2013, 16:58:51 schrieb Matthew Dawson:
> > > On December 9, 2013 08:41:58 PM Wolfgang Romey wrote:
> > > > In Virtualbox i only reach the console of my linux system which runs
> > > > virtualbox. I cannot try it on my weTab, were i will try it with the
> > > > usb- keyboard next monday (if it is necessary then).
> > > 
> > > Take a look at this:: http://blog.tordeu.com/?p=322
> > > 
> > > The problem is that Xorg is intercepting the keystrokes.  There is
> > > usually a way around that, but it is specific to whatever software you
> > > are using.
> > 
> > Thank you. Unfortunately it did not really help. I got out of PA but not
> > in
> > a usable console into which i could enter commands. Only a blank screen.
> > So i have to wait for Marcos new iso.
> > 
> > Wolfgang
> 
> try
> http://makeplaylive.com/~notmart/plasma-active-i586-stable-2013-12-10.iso

Booting the image in virtualbox seems to work fine. After installing it, i do 
not have a network connection and no background for the activities. Adding  a 
background crashes PA and virtualbox. So unforunately more work to do.

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Re: notice on active builds

2013-12-10 Thread Wolfgang Romey
Am Montag, 9. Dezember 2013, 16:58:51 schrieb Matthew Dawson:
> On December 9, 2013 08:41:58 PM Wolfgang Romey wrote:
> > In Virtualbox i only reach the console of my linux system which runs
> > virtualbox. I cannot try it on my weTab, were i will try it with the usb-
> > keyboard next monday (if it is necessary then).
> 
> Take a look at this:: http://blog.tordeu.com/?p=322
> 
> The problem is that Xorg is intercepting the keystrokes.  There is usually a
> way around that, but it is specific to whatever software you are using.
Thank you. Unfortunately it did not really help. I got out of PA but not in a 
usable console into which i could enter commands. Only a blank screen. So i 
have to wait for Marcos new iso.

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Re: notice on active builds

2013-12-09 Thread Wolfgang Romey
Am Montag, 9. Dezember 2013, 20:21:52 schrieb Marco Martin:
> On Monday 09 December 2013, Wolfgang Romey wrote:
> > Is there a way to reach the console in virtualbox (and on the weTab), so i
> > can update again or do i have to reinstall PA?
> 
> ctrl+alt+f2
In Virtualbox i only reach the console of my linux system which runs 
virtualbox. I cannot try it on my weTab, were i will try it with the usb-
keyboard next monday (if it is necessary then).

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Re: notice on active builds

2013-12-09 Thread Wolfgang Romey
Am Montag, 9. Dezember 2013, 07:39:23 schrieb talm...@onespeeddave.com:
> On Dec 9, 2013 5:23 AM, Marco Martin  wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > brief communication: pa installations should be updated (with a big, big
> > update) because the build flags of kdelibs changed: we ditched the mobile
> > profile in favor or a more traditional build.
> After the update on my WeTab/ExoPC, both KDE Daemon and Plasma Workspace
> crash. It happens before wireless networking comes up, so I can't load
> debugging symbols for a useful bug report.
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Re: Fwd: Opera browser in PA i386 - cont

2013-12-09 Thread Wolfgang Romey
Hallo, 

do you know a way to make mp3 working in PA?

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Re: Ratings in Boderga

2013-12-05 Thread Wolfgang Romey
Am Dienstag, 3. Dezember 2013, 16:58:01 schrieb Aaron J. Seigo:
> On Monday, December 2, 2013 18:51:01 Wolfgang Romey wrote:
> > Ratings seems to be not correct working. When I click on see all ratings
> > for an asset, which has more then one rating, only the first row has text
> > before the ":", the other rows not. There is only one rating shown.
> Confirmed; it was a race condition that depended on network performance. I
> spent my “fun hacking time” today to fix this and ended up improving things
> on both the server and client side. I’ll get Marco to push the client side
> ASAP as an update so you can test.
> 
> The whole layout looks better now and there are fewer network requests, so
> win-win. Thanks for the report.
It is working now.

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Re: Polishing PA4

2013-12-02 Thread Wolfgang Romey
I think, it makes sense, to sort the points a little bit:

Things, that can/must be done by the PA-community:
> 
> 1.) Syncing contacts and calendar via own cloud does not work anymore (i
> filed a bug report). Both are essential for tablet users.
> 
Fixed through the latest update.

2.) I cannot add feeds to the feed-reader. I can copy the feed-url and paste 
it in the reader, but pressing OK does not work.

3.) Files should have a way to show only files which are not tagged or show 
the tags of already tagged files.

4.) Make games, which are offered via bodega usable.

5.) Files should have a way of creating a file. When you are  for example in 
documents, it should be possible to start an editor via creating new document. 
That`s some kind of task-orientation.

6.) At least one further example of task-orientation should be realized. Maybe 
writing and sending a report or something simpler.


Things, that should be done through the KDE-Community
7.) There should be a sketching applikation (which starts via files the same 
way as described for documents).

8.) NEW: Make Ksnapshot usable in PA. It can be installed, but I did not find 
a way to trigger the screen shot or shut Ksapshot down.

9.) It should be possible to synchronize tags between PA and desktop. It is a 
bit frustrating, that one has for example to tag images on the desktop and tag 
them again in PA.

10.) Optimize more Appsfor the touch-screen.

11.) Offer Apps, which are not optimized for a touch-screen, but usable 
without problems. KStars is one of them. YOu offer Kwrite, wich is not 
optimized.


Things, that must be done by others:
12.) Unfortunately playing mpX-media is a must for tablets. This should be 
possible on vivaldi.

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Ratings in Boderga

2013-12-02 Thread Wolfgang Romey
Ratings seems to be not correct working. When I click on see all ratings for 
an asset, which has more then one rating, only the first row has text before 
the ":", the other rows not. There is only one rating shown.

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Re: Polishing PA4

2013-12-01 Thread Wolfgang Romey
Am Freitag, 29. November 2013, 14:02:17 schrieb Wolfgang Romey:
> Am Donnerstag, 28. November 2013, 10:29:13 schrieb Marco Martin:
> > On Wednesday 27 November 2013, Wolfgang Romey wrote:
> > > Am Mittwoch, 27. November 2013, 17:03:51 schrieb Aaron J. Seigo:
> > > > On Tuesday, November 26, 2013 19:40:54 Wolfgang Romey wrote:
> > > > > 1.) Syncing contacts and calendar via own cloud does not work
> > > > > anymore
> > > > > (i filed a bug report). Both are essential for tablet users.
> > > > 
> > > > hm. this is using the ownCloud client installed from the Add Ons
> > > > client?
> > > 
> > > I do not think so. The syncing client works fine. The problem occurs,
> > > when
> > > I configure contacts and calendar via akonadi. Which is offered.  It
> > > worked with some beta-versions of PA4. Unfortunately it became broken on
> > > the way. At what point i do not know.
> > 
> > that is another thing, is an akonadi agent, in the package
> > libocsync-plugin-owncloud
> > 
> > is that one correctly installed?
> 
> It is correctly  installed. But as it has something to do with the syncing
> of files, i do not think that that is the problem. Filesyncing via owncloud
> works fine, calendar- and contactsyncing with owncloud via akonadi does not
> work. Did you find my automatically created bug report?

After  the update of PA4  syncing owncloud-calendar and -contacts works fine, 
thank you.

I still cannot add new feeds to the feed reader. Adding the feed address is 
possible, but pressing OK does not work.

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Re: Polishing PA4

2013-11-29 Thread Wolfgang Romey
Am Donnerstag, 28. November 2013, 10:29:13 schrieb Marco Martin:
> On Wednesday 27 November 2013, Wolfgang Romey wrote:
> > Am Mittwoch, 27. November 2013, 17:03:51 schrieb Aaron J. Seigo:
> > > On Tuesday, November 26, 2013 19:40:54 Wolfgang Romey wrote:
> > > > 1.) Syncing contacts and calendar via own cloud does not work anymore
> > > > (i filed a bug report). Both are essential for tablet users.
> > > 
> > > hm. this is using the ownCloud client installed from the Add Ons client?
> > 
> > I do not think so. The syncing client works fine. The problem occurs, when
> > I configure contacts and calendar via akonadi. Which is offered.  It
> > worked with some beta-versions of PA4. Unfortunately it became broken on
> > the way. At what point i do not know.
> 
> that is another thing, is an akonadi agent, in the package
> libocsync-plugin-owncloud
> 
> is that one correctly installed?
It is correctly  installed. But as it has something to do with the syncing of 
files, i do not think that that is the problem. Filesyncing via owncloud works 
fine, calendar- and contactsyncing with owncloud via akonadi does not work. 
Did you find my automatically created bug report?

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channels in the vivaldi store

2013-11-27 Thread Wolfgang Romey
Hallo

i  can see in my store, that Bogdan has put some images into the warehouse, 
which I can see in my store but not in the vivaldi store, as there is no 
channel images. Is it planned to add channels to the vivald store soon?

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Re: Polishing PA4

2013-11-27 Thread Wolfgang Romey
Am Mittwoch, 27. November 2013, 17:03:51 schrieb Aaron J. Seigo:
> On Tuesday, November 26, 2013 19:40:54 Wolfgang Romey wrote:
> > 1.) Syncing contacts and calendar via own cloud does not work anymore (i
> > filed a bug report). Both are essential for tablet users.
> 
> hm. this is using the ownCloud client installed from the Add Ons client?

I do not think so. The syncing client works fine. The problem occurs, when I 
configure contacts and calendar via akonadi. Which is offered.  It worked with 
some beta-versions of PA4. Unfortunately it became broken on the way. At what 
point i do not know.
> 
> > 3.) Unfortunately playing mpX-media is a must for tablets. This should be
> > possible on vivaldi.
> 
> yes, but this is a matter of (mostly non-free) codecs; not something for the
> base Plasma Active to worry about.

B ut some way should be offered, as we cannot expect to have only users, that 
value freedom so much, that they do not expect that playing mp3 is working.

> 
> > 4.) Files should have a way to show only files which are not tagged or
> > give
> > a hint, that a file is tagged. As you remove a tag, when you drag it again
> > to the tag,
> 
This not a bug, but a feature. Should i file a bug anyway?

> can you file a bug report for this one?
> 
> > it is difficult to to tag a great number of files. I get lost
> > in doing it.
> 
> is this a separate issue? if so, can you describe it further?
> 
No and yes. I have synced about 500  images on the same day. There is no real 
chance to get them tagged, when i cannot see, which images are not tagged 
already. If i choose no tag , i always see all pictures. It would be easier, 
when I could only see the images, which have no tags.

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Re: Polishing PA4

2013-11-26 Thread Wolfgang Romey
Am Montag, 25. November 2013, 21:47:04 schrieb Aaron J. Seigo:
> On Monday, November 25, 2013 20:29:39 Wolfgang Romey wrote:
> > Am Montag, 25. November 2013, 20:20:44 schrieb Aaron J. Seigo:
> > > We’re currently focused on the transition to Qt5, and then we will focus
> > > back on features and polish of the Plasma Active user experience again.
> > 
> > I understand that, but i thougt one could use the time to collect, what
> > should be done and maybe prioritize it,
> 
> Yes; this could be done. I’ll be very busy this week myself with the launch
> of Improv, but next week I can probably put some time towards that. If you
> would like to start gathering a list now, that would be great.

O.K., so i start:

1.) Syncing contacts and calendar via own cloud does not work anymore (i filed 
a bug report). Both are essential for tablet users.

2.) I cannot add feeds to the feed-reader. I can copy the feed-url and paste 
it in the reader, but it gets lost and does not appear as a new channel.

3.) Unfortunately playing mpX-media is a must for tablets. This should be 
possible on vivaldi.

4.) Files should have a way to show only files which are not tagged or give a 
hint, that a file is tagged. As you remove a tag, when you drag it again to 
the tag, it is difficult to to tag a great number of files. I get lost in 
doing it.

5.) Files should have a way of creating a file. When you are  for example in 
documents, it should be possible to start an editor via creating new document. 
That`s some kind of taskorientation.

6.) There should be a sketching applikation (which starts via files the same 
way as described for documents).

7.) Maybe files should show your emails too, so you can tag them.

8.) It should be possible to synchronize tags between PA and desktop. It is a 
bit frustrating, that one has for example to tag images on the desktop and tag 
them again in PA.

9.) At least one further example of task-orientation should be realized. Maybe 
writing and sending a report or something simpler.

That is all for now. I know, that i have listed very simple to very complex 
things. But if I get resonance, they can be sorted.

Maybe we should use the makeplaylive discussion-forum for this.

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Re: Polishing PA4

2013-11-25 Thread Wolfgang Romey
Am Montag, 25. November 2013, 20:20:44 schrieb Aaron J. Seigo:

> We’re currently focused on the transition to Qt5, and then we will focus
> back on features and polish of the Plasma Active user experience again.
I understand that, but i thougt one could use the time to collect, what should 
be done and maybe prioritize it,
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Polishing PA4

2013-11-25 Thread Wolfgang Romey
After the launch of makeplaylive (congratulations!) I hope, that PA 
development will start again (if it ever has been down). I think PA needs some 
polishing before it will hopefully soon be shipped with vivaldi. 

Of course i can name things, which habe in my opinion to be polished.

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Re: Partners in bodega

2013-11-19 Thread Wolfgang Romey
Am Dienstag, 19. November 2013, 12:59:26 schrieb Aaron J. Seigo:

Thank you very much for your answer. I think, your time in these days is much 
more shorter the usual.

> Nobody “seeks a partner”. People create partners that reflect organizational
> structure that exists outside of the market in the real world.
> 
> In other words:
> 
> Company X has John, Matthias and Lucy as employees. John creates the Company
> X partner and adds Matthias and Lucy to it.
> 
> Community Y has Susan, Lisa and Beat as members. Susan creates the Community
> Y partner and adds Lisa and Beat to it.
> 
> The warehouse then knows who Company X and Community Y is.

I think, now I got it. 

The term "partner" led me into thinking, that a partner must be someone with a 
different account. That was the way I started.  Now i see, that someone in 
group of persons or a single person can create a partner. The single person 
has all the rights, in a group one can decide, who has which roles. So 
everyone could have all the roles, if the group decides so. 

So now I let h...@wolfgangromey.de add wolfgang.ro...@web.de to the list of 
persons of wolfgang.ro...@web.de. and whoop he sees the store, can add persons 
to the partner list and so on.

As i can see clearly now, i can write down the next part of the guide.

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Re: Partners in bodega

2013-11-18 Thread Wolfgang Romey
Allthough I now could do what i wanted in the warehouse, I still wonder, why 
it has to work that way. 
To add my test user warehouse@... to the partner wolfgang.ro...@web.de I had 
to log in as h...@wolfgangromey.de and add wareho...@akl-woro.de to the 
peoples list of wolfgang.ro...@web.de. So when  someone seeks a partner, he 
has to know someone, who has a partner and can add him to the peoples list of 
his partner. Strange.
I expected, that there would be a way, that wolfgang.ro...@web.de could do it 
himself. No, he has to create another partner, where he can add people to.
I think it would be helpfull, if the partner could see the people he partners 
to and ad dnew partners. 
Or do I understand the concept of partners completely wrong?

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Re: Partners in bodega

2013-11-18 Thread Wolfgang Romey
Am Montag, 18. November 2013, 13:05:54 schrieb Aaron J. Seigo:
> On Sunday, November 17, 2013 20:54:31 Wolfgang Romey wrote:
> > I logged   in with the account wolfgang.ro...@web.de, which is partner to
> > h...@wolfgangromey.de, wolfgang.ro...@gmx.net and m-...@akl-woro.de.
> > I wonder, why i there is no hint that wolfgang.ro...@web.de is a partner
> > of
> > these three accounts. Should there not be a list of the persons, which
> > have
> > wolfgang.ro...@web.de as partner, so that he can see, add or delete
> > persons?
> This is managed in the Partners tab. To manage people the account must have
> the Partner Manager role.
> 
> The point of Partners is not to provide a social network for people. It is a
> way for the warehouse and publishers/distributors to recognize each other.
> > This list appears on the accounts, which wolfgang.ro...@web.de as  a
> > partner.
> > 
> > I too wonder, why i cannot see the store, which wolfgang.ro...@web.de
> > owns.
> 
> Either because:
> 
> * the account does not have the Store Manager role
> * or the store is owned by a different Partner
 To have a clean start, i created the user with the email-adress 

wareho...@akl-woro.de

And now I can add this account to the partner Wolfgang Romey  via the peoble 
list. I was a bit upset, as changes were not reflected imidiately in the 
interface.
I made the needed screenshots and can now write the next part of the bodega 
user handbook.

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Partners in bodega

2013-11-17 Thread Wolfgang Romey
I logged   in with the account wolfgang.ro...@web.de, which is partner to 
h...@wolfgangromey.de, wolfgang.ro...@gmx.net and m-...@akl-woro.de. 
I wonder, why i there is no hint that wolfgang.ro...@web.de is a partner of 
these three accounts. Should there not be a list of the persons, which have 
wolfgang.ro...@web.de as partner, so that he can see, add or delete persons?
This list appears on the accounts, which wolfgang.ro...@web.de as  a partner.

I too wonder, why i cannot see the store, which wolfgang.ro...@web.de owns.

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Re: Deleting Partners

2013-11-17 Thread Wolfgang Romey
Am Freitag, 15. November 2013, 22:44:09 schrieb Aaron J. Seigo:
> On Friday, November 15, 2013 22:25:24 Wolfgang Romey wrote:
> > I want to delete the partner  wolfgang.ro...@web.de of my test person
> > 
> > m-...@akl-woro.de
> > 
> > but I do not succeed and get no reaction, which would help.
> 
> Yes; I imagine this is because the fixes I made for this went into the v0.2
> codebase while the server is still running v0.1
> 
> I have deleted the partner from the backend, so you should be ready to go.
Unfortunately the partner wolfgang.ro...@web.de is still shown on the above 
account and m-...@akl-woro.de is still shown as a person with 
wolfgang.ro...@web.de. When I try to delete it from the list, nothing happens. 
Would you have a look into it, because for the guide I need a "clean" account 
m-...@akl-woro.de.

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Re: Deleting Partners

2013-11-15 Thread Wolfgang Romey
Thanx.
I am working on the guide, an updated version should be there soon.

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Deleting Partners

2013-11-15 Thread Wolfgang Romey
I want to delete the partner  wolfgang.ro...@web.de of my test person   

m-p-l@akl-woro.de4

but I do not succeed and get no reaction, which would help.

I want to start in the user guide with a content provider with has no partner, 
so for the screen-shots i need it the partner removed.


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Re: tagging behaves strange with books - new: partners

2013-11-15 Thread Wolfgang Romey
Am Freitag, 15. November 2013, 04:49:46 schrieb Aaron J. Seigo:


> You mean that they are removed from the store channel? If so, no, that would
> be a bug, probably in the Manager app.
> 
> The tags added to a store channel are immediately recorded on the server
> side and only removed if told to. I’ll have this looked into.
> 
I just tested it with three subchannels of Books. Now it works as expected. 

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Re: tagging behaves strange with books - new: partners

2013-11-14 Thread Wolfgang Romey
Am Donnerstag, 14. November 2013, 09:33:41 schrieb Aaron J. Seigo:
> On Monday, November 11, 2013 16:58:40 Wolfgang Romey wrote:
> > I tried to generate channels with books, but the tags I entered were
> > allways removed or altered. So I never succeded in creating the channels
> > i wanted. I wanted to rebuild the books channel in Vivaldi-1, but i did
> > not work.
> This is indeed where having the “channel templates” will be very helpful:
> people (e.g. me) can create sets of channels that match specific sets of
> content that are imported (e.g. gutenberg) and then people (e.g you) can
> simply use that template.
That would be very helpfull.
> 
> Until then, the best way of going about it is to look at what tag appear on
> the Books upload form and using those (e.g. the categories)
> 
I will try that.
> For gutenberg, there is one additional help: they are all tagged with a
> project gutenberg tag. So they are both assetType:book as well as project
> gutenberg :)
> 
There are two tags Project Gutenberg: author and publisher. Both did not help. 
I am working on the channel  "Bücher_Astronomie". It very often happens, that 
tags are removed, when I change to home and return to the store. Does one have 
to wait, until tags are registered?

> > Wth Wallpapers I did succeed.
> > 
One  question to partners. I think i do understand the concept of working 
groups. But what has someone to do, when he is a single person not knowing a 
person he can partner up with. Can he partner with himself?
For examble, my son is studying arts at the Kunsthochschule Düsseldorf his 
Professor is Andreas Gursky, which you may know. He produced digital paitings 
and may be publishing on the warehouse in the future. Of course my son can 
partner with me. But what could he do, if he did not know me?
In the user guide I am reaching a point, where i want to have that point clear 
so i can describe it.

Wolfgang

P.S. : On my blog I started a series in german about the make.play.live 
eccosystem: http://wolfgangromey.de/blog/?p=7057
I hope, it is correct and usefull.
PP.S.:  From time to time i visit the test homepage of make.play.live, I think 
it is great. I am very pleased to see, that it is in the process of being 
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bug-reports

2013-11-11 Thread Wolfgang Romey
I succeded in generating a bug report about the akonadi-crashes. 

But the automatic installation of the missing debuginfos did not work in the 
report generator. I had to do it manually.

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tagging behaves strange with books

2013-11-11 Thread Wolfgang Romey
I tried to generate channels with books, but the tags I entered were allways 
removed or altered. So I never succeded in creating the channels i wanted. I 
wanted to rebuild the books channel in Vivaldi-1, but i did not work.

Wth Wallpapers I did succeed.

Until now, one has to guess, what tags to use. What happens, if I use the tag 
dark, are there all assets shown, which have these tag?

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Re: bug reports

2013-11-11 Thread Wolfgang Romey
Am Montag, 11. November 2013, 11:25:39 schrieb Marco Martin:
> On Monday 11 November 2013, Wolfgang Romey wrote:
> > On my weTab with PA4 i have crashes, when I set up the syncing of contacts
> > and calendar with owncloud. Obviously akonadi(?) crashes.
> > 
> > I wanted to send a bug report, was offerd to install the debugging
> > symbols,
> > which was not succesful, because repros are missing. I ask again, what
> > repros have to be activated for bug reports.
> 
> hmm, all the packages in the standard repos seems to have an accompaining
> debuginfo one
So I have to look, if only the error message ist wrong or it is something 
different.

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2013-11-11 Thread Wolfgang Romey
On my weTab with PA4 i have crashes, when I set up the syncing of contacts and 
calendar with owncloud. Obviously akonadi(?) crashes.

I wanted to send a bug report, was offerd to install the debugging symbols, 
which was not succesful, because repros are missing. I ask again, what repros 
have to be activated for bug reports.

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Re: Removing assetType in the store

2013-11-09 Thread Wolfgang Romey
Am Mittwoch, 6. November 2013, 22:41:10 schrieb Wolfgang Romey:
> As far as I understand it, if I only want to see subchannels, in the
> channels there have to be no tags.
> 
> I have in my store WRomey_store the channel Wallpapers and the subchannel
> nature with the taggs wallpaper and Nature. I started with the tag Wallpaper
> in the channel Wallpapers so there are shown the channel Nature and all
> Wallpapers. So I tried to get rid of the tag Wallpapers in the channel
> Wallpaper, but i reapears every time i return to the store. If I change it
> to another tag, the matching assets are shown. It seems to me, once a tag
> is set, it cannot be removed.
> 
> I have similar expieriences with the channel books.
> 
I tried it, the only way to get completely rid of tags in a channel is to 
delete the channel and create it anew. I tried it with the channel Wallpaper 
in my store. When I deleted the tag wallpaper, it reapeasr when entering the 
channel again, when i changed the tag the corresponding assets were shown. 
Completely deleting all the tags was not possible, so there were allways shown 
plus the subchannels.  When i leave the channel empty and create subchannels 
with tags, everything works as expected.

I do not think, that this a feature, i think it is a bug.

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Removing assetType in the store

2013-11-06 Thread Wolfgang Romey
As far as I understand it, if I only want to see subchannels, in the channels 
there have to be no tags.

I have in my store WRomey_store the channel Wallpapers and the subchannel 
nature with the taggs wallpaper and Nature. I started with the tag Wallpaper 
in the channel Wallpapers so there are shown the channel Nature and all 
Wallpapers. So I tried to get rid of the tag Wallpapers in the channel 
Wallpaper, but i reapears every time i return to the store. If I change it to 
another tag, the matching assets are shown. It seems to me, once a tag is set, 
it cannot be removed.

I have similar expieriences with the channel books.

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Re: Deleting a Partner in the warehouse

2013-11-06 Thread Wolfgang Romey
Am Mittwoch, 6. November 2013, 19:10:53 schrieb Aaron J. Seigo:
> On Wednesday, November 6, 2013 18:59:06 Wolfgang Romey wrote:
> > Now I wanted to delete the partner WRomey in the new account, but get the
> > message, that i am not authorized to do this. What has to be done?
> 
> Hm; I’ll have to look into this, though tomorrow as I’m out of time today.
> There are restrictions on deleting partners, but they should only become
> effective once assets have been created. Also, only the Partner Manager can
> delete a partner.
> 
> > BTW: How can a new user of the warehouse find a partner? Does he allways
> > have to create a new one?
> 
> Usually if someone is with a partner, they already know it. e.g. they work
> at a company together, or are in a Free software project together.
> 
> Bodega doesn’t help people find new partners to join, it lets people create
> partnerships that reflect what already exists in the outside world.
That is important for the user guide. That means, as i am a split person in 
the warehouse ;-), i can add the new user to the partner Wolfgang Romey.

Is it rifht, that searching on the partner page means searching partners, 
which are listed there? E.g. if in a woking group of 100 people i can have 20 
partners i can search a partner and add persons to the partner found?

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Deleting a Partner in the warehouse

2013-11-06 Thread Wolfgang Romey
Hello,

for the warehouse user guide i am working on, i created a new account and 
wanted to associate it with a partner. As searching did not deliver the 
partner wolfgang.ro...@web.de with the name of Wolfgang Romey, i tried to 
create a partner with the same name in the new account, which did not work. So 
I created a new one with the name WRomey and the same email adress.
In the meantime I learned, i can add a partner to the new account by going in 
an other account which has a partner and add it to the persons.

Now I wanted to delete the partner WRomey in the new account, but get the 
message, that i am not authorized to do this. What has to be done?

BTW: How can a new user of the warehouse find a partner? Does he allways have 
to create a new one?

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Re: Bodega meeting notes

2013-11-05 Thread Wolfgang Romey
Am Dienstag, 5. November 2013, 12:21:43 schrieb Aaron J. Seigo:
> On Monday, November 4, 2013 20:58:18 Wolfgang Romey wrote:
> > When going to:
> > 
> > http://addons.makeplaylive.com/
> > 
> > one sees
> > 
> > Bodega Content Warehouse Managed By Make·Play·Live
> > 
> > Maybe it would be better to change it to something like:
> > 
> > Make.Play.Live Content Warehouse powered by  Bodega
> 
> +1
> 
> really, *all* of the HTML content generated by the server need to be
> revisited. none of them are what i would call clear or beautiful. we were
> very focused on functionality in v0.1, and we need to shift some of that to
> function
I don't know, if i have made my main point clear. I think we have to avoid the 
danger, that anybody thinks, Bodega is the name of the Warehouse and conflicts 
with the Apple App-Store. 

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Re: bodega stores - book reader

2013-11-04 Thread Wolfgang Romey
Installs!

Thank you very much.

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Re: Bodega meeting notes

2013-11-04 Thread Wolfgang Romey
When going to:

http://addons.makeplaylive.com/

one sees 

Bodega Content Warehouse Managed By Make·Play·Live

Maybe it would be better to change it to something like:

Make.Play.Live Content Warehouse powered by  Bodega

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Re: bodega stores - book reader

2013-11-04 Thread Wolfgang Romey
Am Montag, 4. November 2013, 11:38:00 schrieb Aaron J. Seigo:
> On Monday, November 4, 2013 11:02:00 Wolfgang Romey wrote:
> > Of course, it works. :-)  I added the channels wallpapers and games to my
> > store and they appeared. Wallpapers were loaded to Wallpapers, games to
> > Downloads, maybe because I don't have a folder games.
> 
> No, because the Add Ons app does not know what to do with these game
> binaries as they are packaged a little differently than most, namely: they
> aren’t packaged at all.
> 
> > Unfortunately the games don't work. PA4 says, it won't start it becasuse
> > it
> > would be dangerous. Setting them to executable via dolphin did not help.
> 
> Yes, there is some tweaking left on the PA side to make this work properly.
> Working on it :)
When trying to install the book-reader, AddOns crushed everytime I tried it. I 
tried to generate a bug report, but when trtying to install the debug symbols 
i got ther message that not all the neccessary repos are there. Which do I 
need.

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Re: bodega stores

2013-11-04 Thread Wolfgang Romey
Am Montag, 4. November 2013, 10:15:33 schrieb Aaron J. Seigo:
> On Sunday, November 3, 2013 20:37:18 Wolfgang Romey wrote:
> > Is it possible to offer  a part of the content of the VIVIALDI-1 store in
> > my store? As far as I understand the construction of the bodega
> > warehouse, it should be possible. If yes, how do i do it?
> 
> Absolutely; in fact, you should not think about it as “offering content of
> the VIVALDI-1 store”, but “content from the warehouse”.
> 
> The warehouse has all this content .. and stores just choose which of that
> content to show. So anything in VIVALDI-1 can be shown in WRomey_store as
> long as they share a warehouse. (Which they do :)
> 
> So, if you wanted to add all the wallpapers, you’d simply create a top level
> “Wallpaper” channel, perhaps even with the same sub-channels in the
> VIVALDI-1 store .. and you’d see the same content.
> 
> One thing that I want to implement (though it is not scheduled for the next
> release) is channel templates so the warehouse can offer a “all the
> wallpapers” definition and by adding it to your store you automatically get
> the wallpaper channels populated for you, and then if you want you can
> customize it from there.
> 
> It will save everyone a lot of work in the long run, I think. I actually
> prototyped this for the Project Gutenberg books to see how well it would
> work .. and it worked very well. I need to make it a generic feature and
> add it to Bodega at some point.

Of course, it works. :-)  I added the channels wallpapers and games to my 
store and they appeared. Wallpapers were loaded to Wallpapers, games to 
Downloads, maybe because I don't have a folder games.
Unfortunately the games don't work. PA4 says, it won't start it becasuse it 
would be dangerous. Setting them to executable via dolphin did not help.

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bodega stores

2013-11-03 Thread Wolfgang Romey
Is it possible to offer  a part of the content of the VIVIALDI-1 store in my 
store? As far as I understand the construction of the bodega warehouse, it 
should be possible. If yes, how do i do it?


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Re: Categories

2013-11-02 Thread Wolfgang Romey
Am Dienstag, 29. Oktober 2013, 13:59:13 schrieb Aaron J. Seigo:
> On Saturday, October 26, 2013 17:24:30 Wolfgang Romey wrote:
Back home, I tested my store on my weTab. Now I can download my assets. But at 
first I did not realize, that I had to create a folder Downloads. As I do not 
know, if there is a different way, I had to do it with dolphin. Maybe a way to 
solve this is to create during the installation of PA folders for all file or 
mime types,  which are supported by files. For example a folder pictures for 
img, png, jpg, ...

BTW: should i find the games in the vivaldi-1 store? What new asset type is 
supported by the warehouse?

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Re: Files - Follders and Tags

2013-11-01 Thread Wolfgang Romey
Am Freitag, 1. November 2013, 10:29:12 schrieb Sebastian Kügler:

> Tagging is highly dependent on the originating device, though. On the target
> machine, tags might not exist, or might have a different meaning. They
> could connect different assets, and so on. The best you can do, is compare
> the tag names, but that doesn't actually say a lot about the tags. It might
> be enough for most cases, however.
> 
I realize, that its very hard to achieve tagging over devices. But I think it 
has to be achieved in the time of synching accross devices. Maybe an addon of 
owncloud could do this: Recognizing tags on the machine, which sends files or 
changes to owncloud and sending tags to the machine which recieves files. Is 
that not importand for other user, especially bussiness users of owncloud?
BTW: The KDE community is known for solving difficult problems. :-)


> > As long as tagging is far from ready, PA should offer fallback lines. One
> > fallback for me is dolhin, allthough it is not touch optimized.
> 
> I think you're missing one important thing: If we put Dolphin by default,
> that would make absolutely sure that Files doesn't get any exposure, and no
> fixes. It would also convey the message that we're just trying to ship
> Desktop applications for touch devices, and that is the exact opposite of
> our strategic direction. We're deliberately sacrificing functionality for
> this here. Those that feel compelled, or prefer Dolphin can still use it
> just fine, and I think that's a great asset as well. (We get many useful,
> even if not touch-optimized, apps that way, but they should not be put into
> the spotlight in Plasma Active.)
> 
I can accept this. But then it is important to add missing features to FIles. 
I am missing the ability to create documents. When I am in documents, i should 
be abble to create a document and so on.

Of course I see, tha develobment ressources are very scarce and bodega and the 
porting to KDE 5 framework are more important. 

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Files - Follders and Tags

2013-10-31 Thread Wolfgang Romey
I think folder and tagging are far from ready in KDE.

 I have a lot of images i tag intensely in digikam. When i sync them to my 
weTab via owncloud, i have tag them anew. That is not acceptable. As long as 
tags are not tied to a file, tagging is not ready. 

When I copy files to my weTab, i should be aksed, if I want to tag them. If 
yes, my tags should be offered and I should be able to create new one.
The same should happen, when i load down content from bodega.

One tag should allways be the folder in which the file rests, so i can see 
which files are in a folder and can tag them. When i tag them with another 
folder, the old tag folder would removed

As long as tagging is far from ready, PA should offer fallback lines. One 
fallback for me is dolhin, allthough it is not touch optimized.

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Files-Folders-owncloud-PA5

2013-10-29 Thread Wolfgang Romey
Am Sonntag, 27. Oktober 2013, 15:38:08 schrieb Thomas Pfeiffer:
> On Sunday 27 October 2013 14:06:34 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > The best answer to this is to have a generic asset handler that simply
> > downloads files into ~/Downloads, or whatever the most appropriate folder
> > is depending on the mimetype.
> 
> In Plasma Active, all things should go straight to ~/ since we don't do
> folder hierarchy ;)
> If we start using a folder hierarchy for downloaded stuff, it becomes
> inconsistent with Files' behavior of just putting everything in ~/

I think, PA4 is not in a state , where we can handle it that strict. There is 
at least one important app, that thinks in folders: owncloud. owncloud wants 
to sync folders!  It makes no sense, to sync the complete mer folder to 
owncloud. I sync the *folders* muisic, documents, pictures ... and all the 
folders, i have on my laptop and want to sync to the tablet via owncloud.

There is probably no easy  way to solve it . Maybe there could be a tag "sync 
to owncloud" which in combination with other tags syncs to folders on owncloud 
without creating folders in PA4. As I wrote, no easy way to get rid of foldes 
in PA4. Obviously files looks into folders an presents the conted in another 
way.

With bodega, one has to find a solution which works with the web-interface on 
every system, which can use it. OnlyAddOn can go another way.

I would like to know, when the PA5 development starts and if it is more than 
just porting to KDE5 Framework. PA has to go a long way, until it is mostly 
task-centered. What can be the next steps in this direction, what is offer as 
long as there is no tasked-centered solution?


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Re: Categories

2013-10-29 Thread Wolfgang Romey
Am Dienstag, 29. Oktober 2013, 13:59:13 schrieb Aaron J. Seigo:

> so quite a few bug fixes / improvements today and yesterday...
> 
> as soon as the Add Ons app update is pushed, you’ll be able to download,
> view, uninstall from your store. in fact, if you look at your stats in the
> manager app you’ll see someone downloading some of your pictures several
> times. that was me. :)
> 
> also, the manager app now shows the store id in the stores listing .. and
> various other little fixes.
> 
> progress!
I am in vacation until the weekend, so i cannot test it very much. Thanx a 
lot.

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Re: Categories

2013-10-26 Thread Wolfgang Romey
Am Samstag, 26. Oktober 2013, 17:06:00 schrieb Aaron J. Seigo:

> Your one Bodega account works for all stores, all clients, all web services
> (manager.makeplaylive.com, discuss,makeplaylive.com, ..)
> 
> I was looking at your store in the Add Ons client just now, in fact. Can you
> double check that in the active-addonsrc file there is this:
> 
> [AddOns]
> Store=WRomey_store
> URL=https://addons.makeplaylive.com:3443
Thanx. It did not work on PA in virtual-box, on my weTab it works.

I can get into the store, see the preview of the pictores, but cannot download 
them.

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Re: Categories

2013-10-26 Thread Wolfgang Romey
Am Samstag, 26. Oktober 2013, 16:09:46 schrieb Aaron J. Seigo:

> 
> The id you gave the store is WRomey_store and this works for me. i can see
> your 5 pictures in Bilder; there are no assets in your Texte channel yet so
> it does not show up.
Oh. that is something for the user guide! But I do not see, where I can find 
the id. I did not remember it, so i thought, that I had to use the name of the 
store. Would it be good, if the id was shown.

Unfortunately it is not working until now.  Do I have to create a new account 
on the other store or should the account for the vivaldi store work.

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Re: Categories

2013-10-26 Thread Wolfgang Romey
Am Samstag, 26. Oktober 2013, 10:16:44 schrieb Aaron J. Seigo:
> On Saturday, October 26, 2013 10:07:23 Wolfgang Romey wrote:
> > Sorry, but I did not find the file, where i can configure Add Ons in PA4
> 
> ~/.kde/share/config/active-addonsrc
> 
There has not been that file, so I created it.
> in there you can have sth like:
> 
> [AddOns]
> Store=VIVALDI-1
Store=WORO

The shop I created with the manager.

> URL=https://addons.makeplaylive.com:3443
> 
Is this the correct URL?

I saved it, but I always get the vivaldi shop.

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Re: Categories

2013-10-26 Thread Wolfgang Romey
Sorry, but I did not find the file, where i can configure Add Ons in PA4

Did you see my mail concerning the Bodega User Guide?

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Re: Categories

2013-10-25 Thread Wolfgang Romey
Am Freitag, 25. Oktober 2013, 22:13:43 schrieb Aaron J. Seigo:
> On Friday, October 25, 2013 16:19:00 Wolfgang Romey wrote:
> > Why is it, that same of the standard assetTypes have categories
> > (wallpaper,
> > application, ...) and others (magazine, book, article, ... ) not?
> 
> Because no categories have been defined for magazines, books or articles. :)
> 
> Such categories will probably need to be added eventually, I just have not
> yet defined categories for those types.
> 
> In Bodega, each asset type can have its own set of ‘rules’. Those rules
> includes things like “what kind of images do you need for this asset” and
> “which tags can you apply to this asset"
I see. So my mindmap, articel and images will not show up on Plasma Active. I 
think I have to wait for the web-front-end.

I have seen that my wallpaper is in Add On, but unfortunately PA does not 
scale the wallpaper, so i uploaded a different on in the resolution for the 
Wetab. 
I wanted to change the descripton of the 4:3 file, when updating i get:

Error in uploading the asset.
ENOENT, open '/home/bodega/bodega-server-
production/server/content/172439/038_Chalkidiki_Kassandra.jpeg'

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Re: Using Bodega

2013-10-25 Thread Wolfgang Romey
Maybe i see things al little clearer now. Is it right, that, when i start Add 
Ons, i see the list of assetTypes, the marketplace offers. When I click on an 
assetType, it opens a column of collections and so on, until ireach the 
column, where i can download the asset.

To get on the market place an asset has to be run through a store. If it fits 
the tags defined in the store (and other criteria which do not understand at 
the moment) it gets on the market place.

Some assets have  tag catogeries some other not. Which when is unclear for me.

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2013-10-25 Thread Wolfgang Romey
Why is it, that same of the standard assetTypes have categories (wallpaper, 
application, ...) and others (magazine, book, article, ... ) not?

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Re: Experiences during Bodega partner experience walkthrough

2013-10-25 Thread Wolfgang Romey
Icon creation does not seem to work for asset "articel". I have uploaded a 
512x512  jpeg-image, but when requesting publishing i get the message, that 
the icon is missing.

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Re: Bodega Store: Creating an store

2013-10-24 Thread Wolfgang Romey
Am Donnerstag, 24. Oktober 2013, 17:28:48 schrieb Sascha Manns:
Hello Sascha,

are you interessted in working on a Bodega user-guide? 

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Re: Using Bodega

2013-10-24 Thread Wolfgang Romey
Am Donnerstag, 24. Oktober 2013, 23:19:52 schrieb Aaron J. Seigo:
O.K. Then I start it. 

And I start it with some questions:

As far as i see, until now the makeplaylive bodega warehouse is only reachable 
via Plasma Active. 

What is it what I see, when I enter it via my account. The warehous or a 
store?
If it the warehouse, do I see stores, which have channels like books, 
wallpapers, ..., which I can enter when i click on them and which are 
organized in collections, with books for example the collections author, 
alphabet, Subject?

In short, what is the hierarchy of what I see, when I log in into PA addons?


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Using Bodega

2013-10-24 Thread Wolfgang Romey
Would itnot be good to have something like partipants manual in which are 
tasks descriped in detail like:

You want to become a participant of makeliveplay bodega?
At first you have to get an account.
Go to url and enter your email-address and a password. You will get a 
confirming email and can now log in with your email and password.
If yo are using Plasma Active, start addons and proceed as described above.


You want to get digital content.
Go to url and log in with your account. You see ... where you can search or 
browse.


You have digital content, you want provide for free or for sale.
Go to url and log in with your account


And so on until 

You want to install your own warehouse on your own server e.g as a school.
...


Is something like that planned? If not, if the idea is apprecieated, would 
like to start with something like that.

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Re: Experiences during Bodega partner experience walkthrough

2013-10-22 Thread Wolfgang Romey

> 
> implemented now. should arrive on the server shortly

Perfect! Now my plishing request is accepted!

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Re: Experiences during Bodega partner experience walkthrough

2013-10-22 Thread Wolfgang Romey
Am Dienstag, 22. Oktober 2013, 15:17:43 schrieb Aaron J. Seigo:
 
> > > Patches are, as always, welcome, in case anyone feels motivated to
> > > implement it before we get around to it :)
> > 
> > I wished, i could do that, but I am still in the beginnings of learning
> > qml.
> yes, that was more for other people who are also on this list and maybe
> looking for something to do.
>
But I really wish, I had the skill to do it :-) 

> you are already providing a HUGELY important contribution with all of your
> patient testing.

One important reason I do this, is because i worked a long time in the 
vocational training  of teachers (Lehrerausbildung) in North-Rhine-Westphalia, 
Germany and did propagate the use of Free (not only opensource) software. I 
want to make makeplaylive known in that area, when it is ready. I still have 
connections to do it.

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Re: Experiences during Bodega partner experience walkthrough

2013-10-22 Thread Wolfgang Romey
Am Dienstag, 22. Oktober 2013, 13:47:27 schrieb Aaron J. Seigo:
> On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 09:32:33 Wolfgang Romey wrote:
> > That sounds rather complicated. I will study the manual.
> 
> What makes it easier is that when you create a wallpaper (for example), you
> get the Category drop down in the form. So even though you may not realize
> it requires a Category, you are prompted to select one.

I see that for some assetTypes the Category drop down form is shon. I expected 
one for books, but there is'nt any.
> 
> > When sending a request for publishing for an image, there is still the
> > message, that an icon is missing. There is only the possibility to upload
> > a
> > sreenshot, which i did, but which is not accepted as an icon.
> 
> Turning screenshots into icons is not implemented; you need to provide an
> icon.
> 
I did'nt make myself clear enough. In the form for assetType image one has to 
upload a screenshot which i did. When sending the request for publishing, one 
gets the message that an icon is missing.


> > I tried to create another account, because i wanted to see what a normal
> > user, who is not publisher, ...  sees. I recieved the the mail with the
> > authentification code, but i gets not accepted. I get
> > 
> > "Account activation request not found!
> > 
> > The account activation request "346:
> > jvXHeq1Ic1TUbsVBLlg8t66Alx2cWbnGXLXCCYTo" could not be found."
> 
> Indeed; I do not see that code on the server. How did you create the
> account, exactly?
> 
> I would like to attempt to replicate the problem, but need to know whether
> you created it with the Plasma Active Add Ons client or from
> https://manager.makeplaylive.com or .. (Those were tested prior to launch of
> the new Bodega system ... so any details you can offer would be
> appreciated)

I tried to create it from the login form in https://manager.makeplaylive.com.

Update: although I got the message above, I found out that the account has 
been created, when i tried to create a new account with the email-adress i 
used for the account, which seemed to be rejected. Curious?

> > When using the addon app with PA4, i do not find a way to create another
> > account because i am logged in automatically.
> 
> The only way currently is to click on the ’Account’ button in the lower left
> area of the window, then click Disconnect Account. After confirming, you
> can create a new account or log in as someone else.

I did not try that, because i feared to loose my account that way.

> 
> Patches are, as always, welcome, in case anyone feels motivated to implement
> it before we get around to it :)

I wished, i could do that, but I am still in the beginnings of learning qml.

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Re: Experiences during Bodega partner experience walkthrough

2013-10-22 Thread Wolfgang Romey
Am Montag, 21. Oktober 2013, 22:39:19 schrieb Aaron J. Seigo:
> On Monday, October 21, 2013 20:01:52 Wolfgang Romey wrote:
> > My two published assets are not shown. Do i have to become a distributor
> > to
> > see them?
> 
> the reason why your assets are not showing up in the Add Ons app is that
> they do not match any of the channels in the store.
> 
> right now the Add-ons store has channels for:
> 
> * gutenberg books
> * applications (inc games)
> * desktop widgets
> * wallpapers
> 
> apps and games need to be tagged with ‘Plasma Active - x86’ tag and have a
> Category
> 
> widgets and wallpapers need to have a Category
> 
That sounds rather complicated. I will study the manual.


> the assets you uploaded do not match any of the above, so they don’t show in
> the Add Ons store. if a store was created that matched the type and tags of
> your assets, then they would show up.
> 
> and yes, if you were a distributor then you could create such a store. i’d
> like to wait until we have everything 100% confirmed working for all asset
> workflow before we move to store creation.

I have created a store, but will not use it until there are green lights from 
you.

As I wrote, i can see the asset, when i put them in a collection.

When sending a request for publishing for an image, there is still the 
message, that an icon is missing. There is only the possibility to upload a 
sreenshot, which i did, but which is not accepted as an icon.

I tried to create another account, because i wanted to see what a normal user, 
who is not publisher, ...  sees. I recieved the the mail with the 
authentification code, but i gets not accepted. I get

"Account activation request not found!

The account activation request "346: jvXHeq1Ic1TUbsVBLlg8t66Alx2cWbnGXLXCCYTo" 
could not be found."

When using the addon app with PA4, i do not find a way to create another 
account because i am logged in automatically. Is there a way? It makes in my 
opinion sense, when the tablett is used by more the one person. 

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Re: Experiences during Bodega partner experience walkthrough

2013-10-21 Thread Wolfgang Romey
Am Montag, 21. Oktober 2013, 18:06:21 schrieb Marco Martin:

> 
> it failed silently, parner combo was missing
Mass creation works now. I uploaded 5 images.

assetType image still wants to have an icon. It does not help, if you load up 
an icon in the screenshot field, which i did.

I started addons in PA4 on my weTab after updating.  Books are shown, my 
collection is shown, and owncloud is shown. But owncloud is still only 0B 
great.

My two published assets are not shown. Do i have to become a distributor to 
see them?

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Re: Experiences during Bodega partner experience walkthrough

2013-10-21 Thread Wolfgang Romey
What I did: 
I changed the assetType of "Faire_hardware" to articel and created an icon 
(512x512), which i did load up. I wanted to edit the Tags, no tags were shown. 
I added tag "articel". Which was shown but when looking again no longer.

I created a tag author "Romey,Wolfgang", but i could a first not find it in 
the tags. When I tried after a few minutes, it was shown, so i added it. 
When I go back to editing tag, still no tags are shown.

The request for publishing worked well. Now i am waiting.

When starting addons in PA on my weTab the collection "Mahlzeiten" which I 
created is shown.

When I go into the manager, now I can edit fields.

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Re: Experiences during Bodega partner experience walkthrough

2013-10-20 Thread Wolfgang Romey
> - After selecting type "image" and uploading a PNG, I get the "Unrecognized
> assetType" error as well.
> - The type "image" appears twice in the list, but I get the error with both
> types
> 
> Cheers,
> Thomas
That is my fault. I created the tag "image" as i did not wanted to upload a 
wallpaper.  When sending the request, i get the same error meassage.  Aaron 
wrote, that he will fix this and the icon/thumbnail thing soon.

I thought, that yesterday there was a way to remove obsolete tags. But i do 
not find it anymore. Probaly the masters of the universe have to remove it. 
There should be a way, to make the dobble creation of tags impossible.

I too created the tag "text". 
I can create the asset and it wants no icon. But it has the same problems as 
"images" when requesting .

I noticed something strange with tags: My assets have lost all their tags, 
when i want to edit them.

Mass Creation does not work for me. I tried to upload 6 Images. They are shown 
after being dropped. But when i click on review, they are not shown.


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Re: Bodega server availability for creating assets

2013-10-19 Thread Wolfgang Romey
Am Samstag, 19. Oktober 2013, 17:11:25 schrieb Aaron J. Seigo:
> On Saturday, October 19, 2013 16:32:21 Wolfgang Romey wrote:
> > By the way. Why are there no simple assettypes as text, images or file? I
> > uploaded a mindmap and there no really fitting asstetype.
> 
> you can create a new tag with type assetType and value “mindmap”.
> 
> i thought you were uploading a mindmap *application*, not a mindmap file.
> this is why i said to just label it with “application”. i misunderstood
> what you were uploading. apologies.
> 
> uploading such files is of course OK. you just need to make the new tag.

I created the tag assetType mindmap and could change it in the asset.

Then i created the asstTypes image and text, as i have uploaded an image and 
not a wallpaper (have you noticed the difficulty i expierienced with the 
request for publishing the wallpaper?) . When i send the request for 
publishing, now i get:
"Error in sending your request.
Unrecognized assetType".

When you think, I should not test so much, please give me a notice,

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Re: Bodega server availability for creating assets

2013-10-19 Thread Wolfgang Romey
Am Samstag, 19. Oktober 2013, 17:11:25 schrieb Aaron J. Seigo:
> On Saturday, October 19, 2013 16:32:21 Wolfgang Romey wrote:
> > By the way. Why are there no simple assettypes as text, images or file? I
> > uploaded a mindmap and there no really fitting asstetype.
> 
> you can create a new tag with type assetType and value “mindmap”.
> 
> i thought you were uploading a mindmap *application*, not a mindmap file.
> this is why i said to just label it with “application”. i misunderstood
> what you were uploading. apologies.
> 
> uploading such files is of course OK. you just need to make the new tag.

I wondered, why you wrote, i should use the assetType application. But, as you 
are the one with much greater knowledge and expierience, I did not doubt you 
:-)

I will try to create that assetType and change it in the asset.

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Re: Bodega server availability for creating assets

2013-10-19 Thread Wolfgang Romey

> > 
> > aah, right, wallpaper assets don't have fields to upload icons.
> > now, we could
> > a) modify the client to allow upload icons (looks rather silly tough the
> > concept of "icon of a wallpaper")
> > 
> > b) modify the server in such when icons are generated, if none present,
> > use
> > the screenshot and resize it icon-sized
> 
> I'd vote for b), precisely because of the argument you mentioned against a).
> For the system it might be called "icon", but for the user it's just a
> thumbnail.
Is there a need for wallpapers, to have icons ( or thumbnails)? Would it not 
be easier, when the server would be modified in a way, that it does not expect 
an icon,

Until now , i can not bring the request for publishing on the way. 

By the way. Why are there no simple assettypes as text, images or file? I 
uploaded a mindmap and there no really fitting asstetype.

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Re: Bodega server availability for creating assets

2013-10-19 Thread Wolfgang Romey

> 
> Yep; you can grab, for instance, any image and upload it as a wallpaper.

I tried to upload a wallpaper, which mostly worked. But when I send the 
request for publishing, i get:

"Error in sending your request.
The asset needs at least one icon."

I do not see a way to add an icon. There is only the possibility to add a 
screenshot.

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Typo on page 21:

2013-10-19 Thread Wolfgang Romey
Typo on page 21:

" The selected Partner is the on that will own this Asset."

"The selected Partner is the one that will own this Asset."

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Re: Bodega server availability for creating assets

2013-10-19 Thread Wolfgang Romey
Am Samstag, 19. Oktober 2013, 09:14:49 schrieb Wolfgang Romey:
> When i try to upload an asset, i still get the error-message
> 
> "Error in uploading the asset.
> PartnerInvalid"
> 
> Wolfgang

After Reading a bit in the Manual, I solved MY problem. I did not asign the 
role Creator to my account. After doing that, the asset has been created.

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Re: Bodega server availability for creating assets

2013-10-19 Thread Wolfgang Romey
When i try to upload an asset, i still get the error-message 

"Error in uploading the asset.
PartnerInvalid"

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Re: Bodega discussion forum

2013-10-18 Thread Wolfgang Romey
Am Freitag, 18. Oktober 2013, 22:25:25 schrieb Aaron J. Seigo:
> On Friday, October 18, 2013 21:21:56 Wolfgang Romey wrote:
> > I tried a few things in the discussion forum. If you don't find it
> > helpfull, please give me a notice and feel free to delete it.
> 
> it’s exactly what the forum is for! i responded to your posts as well, and
> created a Plasma Active category (apparently only moderators/admins can
> create new categories ...)

Now my catogory is obsolete, but i don't se a way to delete it, which should 
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Bodega discussion forum

2013-10-18 Thread Wolfgang Romey
I tried a few things in the discussion forum. If you don't find it helpfull, 
please give me a notice and feel free to delete it.

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Re: Some questions: Bodega discussion forum, ...

2013-10-18 Thread Wolfgang Romey
Thank you for your quick answer.

Two problems:

I have created the category Plasma Active in the discussion forum. But it is 
not shown in the categories.  Is that something the moderator has to do? 
I can not upload a picture as my own avatar.

When creating an asset in the manager, i do not find the right type. I wanted 
to upload a mindmap i created: "Aspekte zukm Urheberrecht".  
A hint, what content rating means, would  be usefull.
Most importand: When trying to create the asset , i get the message 

"Error in uploading the asset.
PartnerInvalid"

The partner is Wolfgang Romey. 

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Some questions: Bodega discussion forum, ...

2013-10-18 Thread Wolfgang Romey
Hallo, 

is the discussion forum open for testing? I would like to create a topic 
"Plasma Active" as Vivaldi will be powered by PA.

Shall the bodega-manager be used in PA. I have tried it and the keyboard does 
not pop up.

Is the manager open for testing again?

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Re: preview of Bodega participant documentation

2013-10-13 Thread Wolfgang Romey
Am Sonntag, 13. Oktober 2013, 18:21:07 schrieb Wolfgang Romey:
A second one:

"Note: Approvals a processed within "  must be
"Note: Approvals are processed within ..."

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Re: preview of Bodega participant documentation

2013-10-13 Thread Wolfgang Romey
Thank you very much.

I found atypo on page 21, first line: 

" Once can drag tags to add them, ..." Correct:
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Re: preview of Bodega participant documentation

2013-10-11 Thread Wolfgang Romey
Am Freitag, 11. Oktober 2013, 19:39:28 schrieb Aaron J. Seigo:
> hi all ...
> 
> here is a link to the current draft of the Bodega participant documentation:
> 
>   http://makeplaylive.com/~aseigo/Bodega%20Participants%20Manual.pdf
> 
> due to continuous improvements to the UI i’ve ended up redoing many of these
> sections multiple times which has delayed its availability. this draft is
> still not complete as it is missing parts related to areas that were
> revamped recently.
> 
> i am continuing to work on it, however, and i wanted to share it with you
> even at this point since there is already a fair amount of content in it.
> not only will many of you (hopefully ;) find it useful, but i would
> appreciate any feedback you can offer.
> 
> am i being too detailed?
> not detailed enough?
> 
> is the language clear enough?
> 
> too many screenshots?
> not enough screenshots?
> the wrong kind of screenshots?
> 
> are the foundational concept clearly explained in the first chapter?
> if not, which concepts could use more explaining?
> 
> 
> caveats with this draft:
> 
> * obviously not 100% completed
> * i have not done a full proof-reading. there will be mistakes in the text.
> * it is a PDF because i’m drafting it in Libre Office since that allows me
> to be actually productive as compared to a wiki or similar web editing
> system. i am very open to migrating the content to a web presence once
> completed, however.
> 
> ok .. have at it, and let the feedback commence!

Thank you very much. I am eager to read and more eager to start testing again.

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Asste and store creation

2013-10-10 Thread Wolfgang Romey
Am Donnerstag, 10. Oktober 2013, 13:14:46 schrieb Wolfgang Romey:
> Am Donnerstag, 10. Oktober 2013, 12:31:27 schrieb Marco Martin:
> > On Thursday 10 October 2013 11:35:15 you wrote:
> > > Here is the link to my repository
> > > 
> > > http://repo.merproject.org/obs/home:/cristeab/kde_devel_ux_latest_i586/i
> > > 58
> > > 6/
> > > 
> > > The package file is: TabletReader-3.0.2-18.1.Nemo.i586.rpm
> > > 
> > > However, I would like to update this package, so simply copying into
> > > another place might be an issue since different versions might be in
> > > different places.
> > 
> > shouldn't be an issue, since the asset on the store has to be updated
> > anyways each time one wishes to offer a new version, since it changes
> > either the packageid of the file
> > (TabletReader;3.0.2-18.1.Nemo;i586;kde:stable:apps) or the rpm, if it has
> > been uploaded instead
> 
> Hallo Marco,
> 
> is it possible to answer my request in the manager (Wolfgang Romey), or is
> there a reason, why it is not possible. As I wrote, I want to test it and
> give feedback (and later promote bodega)
> 
> Thanx
> 
> Wolfgang

Thank you very much. 

Unfortunately i too do not succeed in creating an asset or a store.
I try to upload a pdf-file and allways get an error message.

I tried to create a store but it does not get saved.

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Request in the manager

2013-10-10 Thread Wolfgang Romey
Am Donnerstag, 10. Oktober 2013, 12:31:27 schrieb Marco Martin:
> On Thursday 10 October 2013 11:35:15 you wrote:
> > Here is the link to my repository
> > 
> > http://repo.merproject.org/obs/home:/cristeab/kde_devel_ux_latest_i586/i58
> > 6/
> > 
> > The package file is: TabletReader-3.0.2-18.1.Nemo.i586.rpm
> > 
> > However, I would like to update this package, so simply copying into
> > another place might be an issue since different versions might be in
> > different places.
> 
> shouldn't be an issue, since the asset on the store has to be updated
> anyways each time one wishes to offer a new version, since it changes
> either the packageid of the file
> (TabletReader;3.0.2-18.1.Nemo;i586;kde:stable:apps) or the rpm, if it has
> been uploaded instead
Hallo Marco,

is it possible to answer my request in the manager (Wolfgang Romey), or is 
there a reason, why it is not possible. As I wrote, I want to test it and give 
feedback (and later promote bodega)

Thanx 

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Re: new bodega server up

2013-10-07 Thread Wolfgang Romey
Am Montag, 7. Oktober 2013, 19:42:15 schrieb Marco Martin:
> On Monday 07 October 2013, Wolfgang Romey wrote:
> > > We’re going through all the testing once again to cover the above ..
> > > I’ll
> > > update everyone tomorrow on progress on that.
> > 
> > O.K. So i will wait.
> > One thing i found: When i log in and go to account your (aaron) and not
> > mine data are shown. I have not tried if i can enter a new password. But
> > maybe there is something broken.
> > 
> > Wolfgang
> 
> what data?
> assets?
> or the user data under the account tab?
the user data under the account tab.

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Re: new bodega server up

2013-10-07 Thread Wolfgang Romey
Am Montag, 7. Oktober 2013, 18:45:04 schrieb Aaron J. Seigo:
> On Monday, October 7, 2013 18:31:14 Wolfgang Romey wrote:
> > now (18.30 ) login is working.
> 
> Indeed; and thanks everyone for the reports. Turns out it was a problem in
> the new code for people who were not a member of a partner.
> 
> > I will try to uload a few of my own images
> > soon. Unless Aaron says: don't do it (now)
> 
> We’re going through all the testing once again to cover the above .. I’ll
> update everyone tomorrow on progress on that. 
O.K. So i will wait.
One thing i found: When i log in and go to account your (aaron) and not mine 
data are shown. I have not tried if i can enter a new password. But maybe 
there is something broken.

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Re: new bodega server up

2013-10-07 Thread Wolfgang Romey
Hallo, 

now (18.30 ) login is working. I will try to uload a few of my own images 
soon. Unless Aaron says: don't do it (now)

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Re: new bodega server up

2013-10-07 Thread Wolfgang Romey
I get the same error-message, when logging in with my plasma-active account, 
tested a minute ago.

Wolfgang

> and I get this error message with my addons account:
> 
> 
>   Express
> 
> 
> /500/TypeError: Cannot read property 'id' of undefined
> 
>   * at Object.module.exports.loadMainPage
> (/home/bodega/bodega-webapp-manager-production/lib/index.js:27:51)
>   * at BodegaManager.index
> (/home/bodega/bodega-webapp-manager-production/lib/bodega.js:126:15)
>   * at app.get.res.render.network
> (/home/bodega/bodega-webapp-manager-production/routes.js:43:23)
>   * at callbacks
>
> (/home/bodega/bodega-webapp-manager-production/node_modules/express/lib/rou
> ter/index.js:164:37) * at isAuthorized
> (/home/bodega/bodega-webapp-manager-production/routes.js:24:9)
>   * at callbacks
>
> (/home/bodega/bodega-webapp-manager-production/node_modules/express/lib/rou
> ter/index.js:164:37) * at param
>
> (/home/bodega/bodega-webapp-manager-production/node_modules/express/lib/rou
> ter/index.js:138:11) * at pass
>
> (/home/bodega/bodega-webapp-manager-production/node_modules/express/lib/rou
> ter/index.js:145:5) * at Router._dispatch
>
> (/home/bodega/bodega-webapp-manager-production/node_modules/express/lib/rou
> ter/index.js:173:5) * at Object.router
>
> (/home/bodega/bodega-webapp-manager-production/node_modules/express/lib/rou
> ter/index.js:33:10)
> 
> 
> not sure why, is there some options that I need to activate in my
> account ? Anyway, I am interested in publishing an application based on
> okular on bodega server, please let me know when this can be done.
> 
> thanks
> Bogdan
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