Re: time for a re-roll?

2012-10-08 Thread Marco Martin
On Monday 08 October 2012, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
 On Monday, October 8, 2012 00:17:34 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
  Now with Aarons updates, Okular Active segfaults directly on launch :(
 
 hm.. it was dieing here on launch as well, but after a rebuild of both
 plasma- mobile and okular-active it started working again for me. seemed
 like a binary compat issue as a simple rebuild cleared up the issue ...
 
 if you can get a backtrace, that'd be handy.

here on device works fine if i launch it from the terminal, crashes if is 
launched from the file manager.

the backtrace says it's crashing when is trying to initializa the qglwidget as 
qgv viewport

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Re: time for a re-roll?

2012-10-08 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer

On 08.10.2012 10:13, Marco Martin wrote:

On Monday 08 October 2012, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:

On Monday, October 8, 2012 00:17:34 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:

Now with Aarons updates, Okular Active segfaults directly on launch :(


hm.. it was dieing here on launch as well, but after a rebuild of both
plasma- mobile and okular-active it started working again for me. seemed
like a binary compat issue as a simple rebuild cleared up the issue ...

if you can get a backtrace, that'd be handy.


here on device works fine if i launch it from the terminal, crashes if is
launched from the file manager.


I can confirm that.


the backtrace says it's crashing when is trying to initializa the qglwidget as
qgv viewport


I could not get any useful backtrace because I could not find debug packages for 
Qt. Would it make sense ot offer those in the repos so people can add backtraces 
to their bug reports?


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Re: time for a re-roll?

2012-10-08 Thread Marco Martin
On Monday 08 October 2012, Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
 
 I could not get any useful backtrace because I could not find debug
 packages for Qt. Would it make sense ot offer those in the repos so people
 can add backtraces to their bug reports?

cause was identified, fixed now :)

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Re: time for a re-roll?

2012-10-07 Thread Marco Martin
On Friday 05 October 2012, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
 
 the tag issue is a big issue that needs fixing anyways, the okular touch
 tabbar is a minor issue ... just might be worth a re-roll. thoughts?

in the repository now tags seems to work (would like others test it too :p) 
and your last commits are in.
you can try with zypper up.
as soon we can have a new image, we can go on (in the end just one day late, 
not bad :p)

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Re: time for a re-roll?

2012-10-07 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Sunday, October 7, 2012 20:25:14 Marco Martin wrote:
 On Friday 05 October 2012, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
  the tag issue is a big issue that needs fixing anyways, the okular touch
  tabbar is a minor issue ... just might be worth a re-roll. thoughts?
 
 in the repository now tags seems to work (would like others test it too :p)
 and your last commits are in.

cool; will update tonight and test. 

as a side note - i pushed a bunch of fixes to okular active. most importantly, 
a fix for the some thumbnails don't paint bug. thumbnails requesting pixmap 
renders is also decreased by 2-3x. a few other little bugs were fixed, but 
nothing critical compared to those two things.

as for serializing the thumbnail painting requests, i tried one approach 
(still here in a local branch) which ran into some walls as to how QML works 
(lots of creating and deleting of thumbnail items, for instance) and how 
Okular works (can't cancel a page render). it wasn't a complete waste of time, 
as it has led to an alternative mechanism that should hopefully work.

in any case, the okular repo could use a re-pull if we need to re-roll the 
image still.

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Re: time for a re-roll?

2012-10-07 Thread Marco Martin
On Sunday 07 October 2012, Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
 On Sunday 07 October 2012 20:25:14 Marco Martin wrote:
  On Friday 05 October 2012, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
   the tag issue is a big issue that needs fixing anyways, the okular
   touch tabbar is a minor issue ... just might be worth a re-roll.
   thoughts?
  
  in the repository now tags seems to work (would like others test it too
  :p)
 
 First the good news: I can confirm that the tag duplication is gone :)
 
 Now the bad news:
 We have another serious issue: Disappearing tags. While trying tagging, two
 times newly created tags have disappeared the next time I started Files and
 they won't come back. What makes it worse is that I have not found any

depends how often it happens.. 
there is quite a patchwork on top of nepomuk1, that i don't think it can be 
made much better in  a short time (should really get out of the door then 
switch to nepomuk2..) now Vishes is looking at when the duplicate tag issue 
happened, we may have a proper patch in the next days or not, we'll see

 pattern when this happens. I've recreated tags that were lost previously
 with the same name and the same file associated with it and the second
 time it stayed. Can anybody else reproduce this behavior?
 
  and your last commits are in.
  you can try with zypper up.
 
 With the rc1 image and zypper up today, there was no update to
 bodega-client, and consequently Aarons naming changes are not here. Were
 they not updated in the repos used in the rc image?

continuous integration is off for that package, updated by hand

 And there are several new problems:
 
 - Browser and About both don't start anymore. When starting them from
 Konsole, I get the following error:
 FAILURE (KCmdLineArgs):
 Application requests for isSet(opengl) but the opengl option has never
 been specified via addCmdLineOptions( ... )

ouch, should be fixed now

 - Maliit oscillates between two states: Either it is correctly raised above
 the window strip, but is not activated at all in e.g. the kwallet dialog,
 or it works with the dialog but is placed below the window strip. I

i think i know what it is, but don't think there is much to do about it in any 
useful time


 - Calligra Active now brings Calligrs Author (which actually makes no sense
 to even install since there is no Active version of it, but anyway) whose
 .desktop file is obviously not blacklisted yet, but has to be (it's the
 desktop application, no touch-friendliness here ;) ).

hmm, in last revision both calligraactive and calligra author should be 
blacklisted i tought

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Re: time for a re-roll?

2012-10-07 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Sunday 07 October 2012 23:21:42 Marco Martin wrote:
 On Sunday 07 October 2012, Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
  On Sunday 07 October 2012 20:25:14 Marco Martin wrote:
   On Friday 05 October 2012, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
the tag issue is a big issue that needs fixing anyways, the okular
touch tabbar is a minor issue ... just might be worth a re-roll.
thoughts?
   
   in the repository now tags seems to work (would like others test it too
   
   :p)
  
  First the good news: I can confirm that the tag duplication is gone :)
  
  Now the bad news:
  We have another serious issue: Disappearing tags. While trying tagging,
  two
  times newly created tags have disappeared the next time I started Files
  and
  they won't come back. What makes it worse is that I have not found any
 
 depends how often it happens..
 there is quite a patchwork on top of nepomuk1, that i don't think it can be
 made much better in  a short time (should really get out of the door then
 switch to nepomuk2..) now Vishes is looking at when the duplicate tag issue
 happened, we may have a proper patch in the next days or not, we'll see

It happened in two out of 8 tags created. Not all that rare, but surely much 
less serious than the duplication, which happened every time, and easily 
fixable by re-creating the lost tag.

  With the rc1 image and zypper up today, there was no update to
  bodega-client, and consequently Aarons naming changes are not here. Were
  they not updated in the repos used in the rc image?
 
 continuous integration is off for that package, updated by hand

Okay, it's updated now, I'm happy :)

  And there are several new problems:
  
  - Browser and About both don't start anymore. When starting them from
  Konsole, I get the following error:
  FAILURE (KCmdLineArgs):
  Application requests for isSet(opengl) but the opengl option has never
  been specified via addCmdLineOptions( ... )
 
 ouch, should be fixed now

:)

  - Maliit oscillates between two states: Either it is correctly raised
  above
  the window strip, but is not activated at all in e.g. the kwallet dialog,
  or it works with the dialog but is placed below the window strip. I
 
 i think i know what it is, but don't think there is much to do about it in
 any useful time

Hm... Is there at a way to at least get it reliably working in dialogs (i.e. 
the second state)? Sacrificing the Launcher search for that would be okay, but 
if people need to reboot before they can connect to a secure Wifi or use Add 
Ons, that's not very nice... If not, I'll add an FAQ which just tells people 
to reboot if they encounter the problem.

  - Calligra Active now brings Calligrs Author (which actually makes no
  sense
  to even install since there is no Active version of it, but anyway) whose
  .desktop file is obviously not blacklisted yet, but has to be (it's the
  desktop application, no touch-friendliness here ;) ).
 
 hmm, in last revision both calligraactive and calligra author should be
 blacklisted i tought

Well, with updates from last night both were not blacklisted. I'll see what 
happens with the next update.

Now with Aarons updates, Okular Active segfaults directly on launch :(
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Re: time for a re-roll?

2012-10-07 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Monday, October 8, 2012 00:17:34 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
 Now with Aarons updates, Okular Active segfaults directly on launch :(

hm.. it was dieing here on launch as well, but after a rebuild of both plasma-
mobile and okular-active it started working again for me. seemed like a binary 
compat issue as a simple rebuild cleared up the issue ... 

if you can get a backtrace, that'd be handy.

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Re: time for a re-roll?

2012-10-06 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Saturday 06 October 2012 02:12:37 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:

  Nice :) Sorry for being really nitpicky now, but while you're at it, could
  you maybe also change the window tittle? It currently says Add Ons App.
  This would make it perfect :)
 
 perfection it is. it's in master now, just needs to be picked up by the
 build.

I like perfection :)

  we haven't even announced a date yet, so I don't think we'd lose much by
  delaying the release a few days.
 
 well, we're over a month after we thought we'd release (though we didn't set
 a firm date. bad us! let's put a date on our next release once this one is
 out). but, yes .. i'd rather delay a day or two at this point as well.

+1 for setting an internal release date sooner to keep ourselves on track.

   the tag issue is a big issue that needs fixing anyways, the okular touch
   tabbar is a minor issue ... just might be worth a re-roll. thoughts?
  
  We should not release without the tag issue fixed. We're strongly
  advertising Files, so people will try it out and when they run into that
  problem right away, it looks really bad.
 
 agreed.

Since Marco has found a workaround, it looks like the tag problem won't be 
delaying our release :)
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Re: time for a re-roll?

2012-10-05 Thread Marco Martin
On Friday 05 October 2012, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
 hi...
 
 i just pushed the change into bodega-client to make Store become
 Add-Ons.
 
 as this was noted as an important detail to get right (i agree..) it would
 be nice to re-roll the image ... is there time to do this before monday
 though?
 
 i've also pushed a bunch of micro-fixes into plasma-mobile that would be
 nice but not critical. if there isn't time to re-roll an image, perhaps
 we can announce anyways and re-roll as soon as we can. still, would be
 nice to go out with our best face forward ...
 
 the tag issue is a big issue that needs fixing anyways, the okular touch
 tabbar is a minor issue ... just might be worth a re-roll. thoughts?

 plasma-mobile and bodega-store are updated in the release repo (so even a 
zypper up should do)

i'll retest another image tomorrow (as usual, can't really upload anywhere, so 
if someone can would be cool)

we'll see if on a new image the tag issue is fixed but i have my doubts (and 
i'm out of ideas :/)

seems really that  Nepomuk::Tag tag( string );
creates a new tag any time

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Re: time for a re-roll?

2012-10-05 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Friday 05 October 2012 23:14:55 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
 hi...
 
 i just pushed the change into bodega-client to make Store become
 Add-Ons.

Nice :) Sorry for being really nitpicky now, but while you're at it, could you 
maybe also change the window tittle? It currently says Add Ons App. This 
would make it perfect :)

 as this was noted as an important detail to get right (i agree..) it would
 be nice to re-roll the image ... is there time to do this before monday
 though?
 
 i've also pushed a bunch of micro-fixes into plasma-mobile that would be
 nice but not critical. if there isn't time to re-roll an image, perhaps
 we can announce anyways and re-roll as soon as we can. still, would be nice
 to go out with our best face forward ...

+1 It's become a bad habit for example for game publishers to release zero-
day patches for their games with fixes that they couldn't get into the gold 
master. Sure people can get the patch right when they install the game, but it 
still makes the publisher look a bit unprofessional. 

Personally, I'd rather do it like Blizzard and push the release back a few 
days to have it as close to perfection as possible. Their release delays are 
usually welcomed by the community because they know it's for the best. And we 
haven't even announced a date yet, so I don't think we'd lose much by delaying 
the release a few days.

 the tag issue is a big issue that needs fixing anyways, the okular touch
 tabbar is a minor issue ... just might be worth a re-roll. thoughts?

We should not release without the tag issue fixed. We're strongly advertising 
Files, so people will try it out and when they run into that problem right 
away, it looks really bad.
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Re: time for a re-roll?

2012-10-05 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Friday, October 5, 2012 23:44:00 Marco Martin wrote:
 seems really that  Nepomuk::Tag tag( string );
 creates a new tag any time

sounds like an email (and maybe a minimal test case) is in order for vhanda?

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