RE: [ActiveDir] Export of users includes computer accounts.

2003-11-21 Thread Tony Murray
The reason for the unexpected result from your first search filter is because the 
object class computer is a sub class of the user object class.  So when you search 
using the objectClass=user filter  the search will include any sub-classes of user.  
If you look at the attributes of a computer object using, for example, LDP, you will 
see something like this.

objectClass: top; person; organizationalPerson; user; computer; 

The computer object class has some attributes of its own, but also inherits all the 
attributes from the user object class.  This means that you could (if you wanted to) 
assign, for example, emloyeeID and telephoneNumber attribute values for a computer 
object.

Tony

-- Original Message --
From: Mike Newell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date:  Thu, 20 Nov 2003 15:34:45 -0800

That did it! 

Thanks Hunter,
Mike


-Original Message-
From: Coleman, Hunter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 3:29 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Export of users includes computer accounts.

Change your filter to something like
((objectClass=user)(objectCategory=person)) and give it a go.

Hunter 

-Original Message-
From: Mike Newell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 4:16 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ActiveDir] Export of users includes computer accounts.

Hey all,
I'm looking to export users to import into another forest as contacts. I
run the command below to export users from my Windows 2000 AD. 

CSVDE -f contacts.csv -r ((objectClass=user)) -l
objectClass,displayName,DN,mailNickname,proxyAddress,targetAddress,mail


It exports all of the user info but it also includes the Computer
accounts in the export. Anyone know why this export command would
include Computer accounts? More curious as to what I'm doing wrong more
than anything.

Thanks,
Mike.
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RE: [ActiveDir] Export of users includes computer accounts.

2003-11-21 Thread Roger Seielstad
That begs the inevitable question of Why?

I'm guessing it is to support the concept of a computer account, but I'd
still love to know the official reason.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


 -Original Message-
 From: Tony Murray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 3:14 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Export of users includes computer accounts.
 
 
 The reason for the unexpected result from your first search 
 filter is because the object class computer is a sub class 
 of the user object class.  So when you search using the 
 objectClass=user filter  the search will include any 
 sub-classes of user.  If you look at the attributes of a 
 computer object using, for example, LDP, you will see 
 something like this.
 
 objectClass: top; person; organizationalPerson; user; computer; 
 
 The computer object class has some attributes of its own, 
 but also inherits all the attributes from the user object 
 class.  This means that you could (if you wanted to) assign, 
 for example, emloyeeID and telephoneNumber attribute values 
 for a computer object.
 
 Tony
 
 -- Original Message --
 From: Mike Newell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date:  Thu, 20 Nov 2003 15:34:45 -0800
 
 That did it! 
 
 Thanks Hunter,
 Mike
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Coleman, Hunter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 3:29 PM
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Export of users includes computer accounts.
 
 Change your filter to something like
 ((objectClass=user)(objectCategory=person)) and give it a go.
 
 Hunter 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mike Newell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 4:16 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [ActiveDir] Export of users includes computer accounts.
 
 Hey all,
 I'm looking to export users to import into another forest as 
 contacts. I
 run the command below to export users from my Windows 2000 AD. 
 
 CSVDE -f contacts.csv -r ((objectClass=user)) -l
 objectClass,displayName,DN,mailNickname,proxyAddress,targetAd
 dress,mail
 
 
 It exports all of the user info but it also includes the Computer
 accounts in the export. Anyone know why this export command would
 include Computer accounts? More curious as to what I'm doing 
 wrong more
 than anything.
 
 Thanks,
 Mike.
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[ActiveDir] [slightly OT] scripting add users

2003-11-21 Thread Rich Milburn

I think this is a basic question but I am really new to scripting...

I'm adding users from a csv file and using an array to read the csv split
into lines, then spitting each line into another array (split for commas)
from the first array.  Do I need to do something to the array#2 before I
repopulate it with the next line?  If this is confusing, this might help

Array1 = Split(objFile, vbCrLf)

For n = 1 to Ubound(Array1)
'*** do something to Array2 here??
Array2 = Split(Array1(n), ,)
'Call populate users sub
Next

The reason I ask is I keep getting weird errors that don't seem to correlate
to the data being read in (I was getting these when I was reading in one
line at a time into Array2) errors like Subscript out of range, etc - and
googling only showed things from ASP pages that didn't apply.


Thanks for any help
Rich

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[ActiveDir] OT? ADDING CONTACTS

2003-11-21 Thread Brown, Bill [contractor]
Title: OT? ADDING CONTACTS






Not sure if this question is off-track or not. I would not think so as it deals with AD attributes. But if it is deemed OT  then my apologies to the list!

If you add contacts into AD via CSVDE, you specify certain required attributes and you additionally specify certain attributes that you want populated with specific values and you additionally specify the OU into which the imported contacts will be placed  OK, pretty much straight forward.

If you add a contact manually in a specific OU  AD wants to know the Associated Administrative Group that this contact is associated with  OK, again pretty much straight forward.

But wait, that was a different step from the CSVDE import! My question to the list  What AD attribute is populated by selecting the Associated Administrative Group in the manual method as opposed to the import method?

R/Bill




RE: [ActiveDir] [slightly OT] scripting add users

2003-11-21 Thread Creamer, Mark
Rich, I think there are some easier ways to do this, including a script from MS that 
reads the data
from an Excel file. You could create the Excel file from the csv you already have and 
go from there.
See Clarence Washington's Win32Scripting site at http://cwashington.netreach.net for a 
number of good
examples.

Also, Microsoft's own Script Center is a good place to find pre-built scripts:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/scriptcenter/Default.asp


mc
-Original Message-
From: Rich Milburn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 9:23 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ActiveDir] [slightly OT] scripting add users


I think this is a basic question but I am really new to scripting...

I'm adding users from a csv file and using an array to read the csv split
into lines, then spitting each line into another array (split for commas)
from the first array.  Do I need to do something to the array#2 before I
repopulate it with the next line?  If this is confusing, this might help

Array1 = Split(objFile, vbCrLf)

For n = 1 to Ubound(Array1)
'*** do something to Array2 here??
Array2 = Split(Array1(n), ,)
'Call populate users sub
Next

The reason I ask is I keep getting weird errors that don't seem to correlate
to the data being read in (I was getting these when I was reading in one
line at a time into Array2) errors like Subscript out of range, etc - and
googling only showed things from ASP pages that didn't apply.


Thanks for any help
Rich

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RE: [ActiveDir] [slightly OT] scripting add users

2003-11-21 Thread Holland Matthew BC GB
Hi Rich 

This is an example script that reads in CSV File Contents and splits each
line into an array.
Hope it helps

Cheers, Matty

Example Inputfile.txt content:

--
Old,New
Old1,New1
Old2,New2
Old3,New3
Old4,New4
Old5,New5
Old6,New6

Script:
'--
Option Explicit

Const FSORead = 1 
Const FSOWrite = 2
Const FSoAppend = 8 

Dim scriptpath, fso, inputpath, inputFileContent
Dim txtstream, txtFileContents, arrtxtFileContents

'Set the script path
scriptpath = LEFT(WScript.ScriptFullName, LEN(WScript.ScriptFullName) -
LEN(WScript.ScriptName))

Set fso = CreateObject(Scripting.FileSystemObject)
inputpath = scriptpath  inputfile.txt

If not fso.FileExists(inputpath) Then
   Wscript.Echo (Input File doesn't exist   inputpath)
End If

set inputFileContent = fso.GetFile(inputpath)
set txtstream = inputFileContent.OpenAsTextStream(FSORead)
txtFileContents = txtstream.ReadAll
txtstream.Close 

arrtxtFileContents = split(txtFileContents, vbcrlf)

Dim Line, Prop1, Prop2, arrtxtFileLine
For each line in arrtxtFileContents
arrtxtFileLine = split(line, ,)
Prop1 = arrtxtFileLine(0)
Prop2 = arrtxtFileLine(1)
Wscript.Echo Property1:   Prop1   | Property2:   Prop2
Next 

Wscript.Echo Process Finished!

'--

-Original Message-
From: Rich Milburn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 21 November 2003 14:23
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ActiveDir] [slightly OT] scripting add users


I think this is a basic question but I am really new to scripting...

I'm adding users from a csv file and using an array to read the csv split
into lines, then spitting each line into another array (split for commas)
from the first array.  Do I need to do something to the array#2 before I
repopulate it with the next line?  If this is confusing, this might help

Array1 = Split(objFile, vbCrLf)

For n = 1 to Ubound(Array1)
'*** do something to Array2 here??
Array2 = Split(Array1(n), ,)
'Call populate users sub
Next

The reason I ask is I keep getting weird errors that don't seem to correlate
to the data being read in (I was getting these when I was reading in one
line at a time into Array2) errors like Subscript out of range, etc - and
googling only showed things from ASP pages that didn't apply.


Thanks for any help
Rich

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RE: [ActiveDir] [slightly OT] scripting add users

2003-11-21 Thread Coleman, Hunter
I'm not sure about your specific problem, but you could simplify things a
bit by dropping the second array.

Do Until objFile.AtEndOfStream
 strNextLine = objTextFile.Readline
 Array1 = Split(strNextLine, ,)
 'Call populate users sub
Loop 

-Original Message-
From: Rich Milburn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 7:23 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ActiveDir] [slightly OT] scripting add users


I think this is a basic question but I am really new to scripting...

I'm adding users from a csv file and using an array to read the csv split
into lines, then spitting each line into another array (split for commas)
from the first array.  Do I need to do something to the array#2 before I
repopulate it with the next line?  If this is confusing, this might help

Array1 = Split(objFile, vbCrLf)

For n = 1 to Ubound(Array1)
'*** do something to Array2 here??
Array2 = Split(Array1(n), ,)
'Call populate users sub
Next

The reason I ask is I keep getting weird errors that don't seem to correlate
to the data being read in (I was getting these when I was reading in one
line at a time into Array2) errors like Subscript out of range, etc - and
googling only showed things from ASP pages that didn't apply.


Thanks for any help
Rich

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RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Using InstallShield in a Startup Script

2003-11-21 Thread marcus
Title: Message








Maybe Im missing something here but how did you simulate
the LocalSystem context accessing the Null Share path
to ensure that part was working? If you
decide to look at this again, I would suggest looking into that part of it
just drop a few lines to create a text file, with what process its at:



Echo creating
temp  path\text.txt

md c:\temp

Echo creating
v5r2  path\text.txt
md c:\temp\V5R2
echo copying files  blah blah
blah 

copy \\server\iseries\*.*
c:\temp\v5r2
c:\temp\v5r2\setup -s -f1z:\iseriesv5r2.iss -f2c:\v5r2.log -SMS













From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Celone, Mike
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003
4:02 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Using
InstallShield in a Startup Script





I realized I
goofed on that when I typed it earlier. I responded back right after that
with the corrected line. My batch file does use complete paths.
I've given up already and am using psexec to do it instead.



Thanks for all
the help

Mike









From: Steve
Rochford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003
2:17 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Using
InstallShield in a Startup Script



I'd agree with your 3) below - the
reference to z:\ will fail because you've done nothing to map that drive. As douglas said, you need to use full paths - 















c:\temp\v5r2\setup
-s -f1\\server\iseries\v5r2.iss -f2c:\v5r2.log -SMS



or







c:\temp\v5r2\setup
-s -f1c:\temp\v5r2.iss -f2c:\v5r2.log -SMS













should work.











I think the
admin rights is irrelevant here - the startup script is running as local system
- but the other thing to look out for is that domain computers must
have read access to the folder \\server\iseries.











Steve







-Original Message-
From: Stefano Tufillaro
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 20 November 2003 13:21
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: Using
InstallShield in a Startup Script



1) No silent is not equal unattended.





Silent means I'm logged my session, is active with my
rights, access etc. AND I see anything.





Unattended means that never the system ask to me an
aswer by a click or a prompt or like situation.





It's a boolean serie





unattended but visible







unattendedand visible





visible and attended





2) What admion rights ? 





Admin domain rights? workstation rights ? RunAs Admin rights
?





The logon process not automatically give the right
combination immediately and the task where live the logon scripts when will can
become 'administrating' ?







3) look at at yor 4th line. Probably the erroris there







c:\temp\v5r2\setup
-s -f1z:\iseriesv5r2.iss -f2c:\v5r2.log -SMS









-Original Message-
From: Celone, Mike
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003
11:41 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Using
InstallShield in a Startup Script



I tried this
and it does the same thing. I have a script that lists all processes
running on the machine and I can see setup.exe in there but it never does
anything. I'm starting to think you can't use an InstallShield installer
until you are logged in. I can see it copy the files down and the install
starts but that's it. Also InstallShield never creates the log file
either. Here's an example of the batch file:


md c:\temp
md c:\temp\V5R2
copy \\server\iseries\*.* c:\temp\v5r2
c:\temp\v5r2\setup -s -f1z:\iseriesv5r2.iss -f2c:\v5r2.log -SMS



Mike









From: Douglas
M. Long [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003
4:41 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Using
InstallShield in a Startup Script



If you are able to get to the share, but
the script is not executing the .exe, try copying the file from the
shareto the local machine (in your script) and then running setup.exe.
Just make sure to use full paths in all instances
























RE: [ActiveDir] [slightly OT] scripting add users

2003-11-21 Thread Rich Milburn
That's what I was doing at first but I kept getting errors like the
subscript out of range.  I found that error on MSDN and maybe it's related
to the fact I have about 8 properties in the sheet but some of them are
blank for some records?? I'm trying a couple of things to fix it (like Dim
Array2(10)).  Is there anything obvious I might be missing on arrays, like
does an array in vbscript fill up if you assign values to it too many
times, or something like that??

I appreciate the scripts everyone's sending!  I know however that there are
easier ways to do this, except that for the PlumTree Portal and programs
we're writing for it, certain fields have to be formatted in certain ways,
there are store accounts and user accounts and they have to be treated
differently, passwords have to be generated and logged for reference, and
each separate CSV has to be put in its own group.  It's good practice, and
fun (in a perverse way).  I think each day I have been doubling my scripting
ability... have made some pretty cool scripts for the password expiration
project.  Anyway again thanks for all the help!

Rich

-Original Message-
From: Coleman, Hunter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 8:43 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] [slightly OT] scripting add users

I'm not sure about your specific problem, but you could simplify things a
bit by dropping the second array.

Do Until objFile.AtEndOfStream
 strNextLine = objTextFile.Readline
 Array1 = Split(strNextLine, ,)
 'Call populate users sub
Loop 

-Original Message-
From: Rich Milburn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 7:23 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ActiveDir] [slightly OT] scripting add users


I think this is a basic question but I am really new to scripting...

I'm adding users from a csv file and using an array to read the csv split
into lines, then spitting each line into another array (split for commas)
from the first array.  Do I need to do something to the array#2 before I
repopulate it with the next line?  If this is confusing, this might help

Array1 = Split(objFile, vbCrLf)

For n = 1 to Ubound(Array1)
'*** do something to Array2 here??
Array2 = Split(Array1(n), ,)
'Call populate users sub
Next

The reason I ask is I keep getting weird errors that don't seem to correlate
to the data being read in (I was getting these when I was reading in one
line at a time into Array2) errors like Subscript out of range, etc - and
googling only showed things from ASP pages that didn't apply.


Thanks for any help
Rich

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RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Using InstallShield in a Startup Script

2003-11-21 Thread Celone, Mike
Title: Message



I did that exact thing to simulate 
LocalSystem context. I created a batch file that would just create a text 
file on the remote null share and it works. Also the batch file was able 
to copy the files from the null share to the machine in the startup 
script. Thanks for the help though.

Mike


From: marcus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 9:53 AMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Using 
InstallShield in a Startup Script


Maybe 
I'm missing something here... but how did you simulate the LocalSystem context accessing the Null Share path to ensure 
that part was working? If you 
decide to look at this again, I would suggest looking into that part of it... just 
drop a few lines to create a text file, with what process it's 
at:

Echo creating 
temp  path\text.txt
md 
c:\temp
Echo creating 
v5r2  path\text.txtmd c:\temp\V5R2echo 
copying files  blah blah blah... 
copy \\server\iseries\*.* 
c:\temp\v5r2c:\temp\v5r2\setup -s -f1z:\iseriesv5r2.iss -f2c:\v5r2.log 
-SMS






From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On Behalf Of Celone, 
MikeSent: Thursday, November 
20, 2003 4:02 PMTo: 
'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Using 
InstallShield in a Startup Script

I realized I 
goofed on that when I typed it earlier. I responded back right after that 
with the corrected line. My batch file does use complete paths. I've 
given up already and am using psexec to do it 
instead.

Thanks for 
all the help
Mike




From: Steve 
Rochford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 2:17 
PMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Using 
InstallShield in a Startup Script

I'd agree with your 3) below - the 
reference to z:\ will fail because you've done nothing to map that drive. As 
douglas said, you need to use full paths - 






c:\temp\v5r2\setup 
-s -f1\\server\iseries\v5r2.iss -f2c:\v5r2.log 
-SMS
or


c:\temp\v5r2\setup 
-s -f1c:\temp\v5r2.iss -f2c:\v5r2.log 
-SMS



should 
work.



I think the 
admin rights is irrelevant here - the startup script is running as local system 
- but the other thing to look out for is that "domain computers" must have read 
access to the folder \\server\iseries.



Steve

  -Original 
  Message-From: Stefano 
  Tufillaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 November 2003 13:21To: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: Using 
  InstallShield in a Startup Script
  
  1) No silent is not equal 
  unattended.
  
  Silent means I'm logged my 
  session, is active with my rights, access etc. AND I see 
  anything.
  
  Unattended means that never 
  the system ask to me an aswer by a click or a prompt or like 
  situation.
  
  It's a boolean 
  serie
  
  unattended but 
  visible
  
  
  unattendedand 
  visible
  
  visible and 
  attended
  
  2) What admion rights ? 
  
  
  Admin domain rights? workstation 
  rights ? RunAs Admin rights ?
  
  The logon process not 
  automatically give the right combination immediately and the task where live 
  the logon scripts when will can become 'administrating' 
  ?
  
  3) look at at yor 4th line. 
  Probably the erroris there
  
  
  c:\temp\v5r2\setup 
  -s -f1z:\iseriesv5r2.iss -f2c:\v5r2.log -SMS
  

-Original 
Message-From: Celone, 
Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 
11:41 PMTo: 
'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Using 
InstallShield in a Startup Script
I tried 
this and it does the same thing. I have a script that lists all 
processes running on the machine and I can see setup.exe in there but it 
never does anything. I'm starting to think you can't use an 
InstallShield installer until you are logged in. I can see it copy the 
files down and the install starts but that's it. Also InstallShield 
never creates the log file either. Here's an example of the batch 
file:
md 
c:\tempmd c:\temp\V5R2copy \\server\iseries\*.* 
c:\temp\v5r2c:\temp\v5r2\setup -s -f1z:\iseriesv5r2.iss -f2c:\v5r2.log 
-SMS

Mike




From: 
Douglas M. Long [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 4:41 
PMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Using 
InstallShield in a Startup Script

If you are able to 
get to the share, but the script is not executing the .exe, try copying the 
file from the shareto the local machine (in your script) and then 
running setup.exe. Just make sure to use full paths in all 
instances

  


[ActiveDir] Delegation best practices whitepaper

2003-11-21 Thread Coleman, Hunter
Looks like the long awaited delegation paper is out.

Best Practices for Delegating Active Directory Administration:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=631747a3-79e1-48fa-
9730-dae7c0a1d6d3displaylang=en

And the appendices:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=29dbae88-a216-45f9-
9739-cb1fb22a0642displaylang=en
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RE: [ActiveDir] [slightly OT] scripting add users

2003-11-21 Thread Coleman, Hunter
Yes, that's been my experience. However, if you're getting the Subscript
out of range error, that's the first thing I would check. 

-Original Message-
From: Rich Milburn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 8:45 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] [slightly OT] scripting add users

Excel should do that automatically right?

-Original Message-
From: Coleman, Hunter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 9:18 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] [slightly OT] scripting add users

Make sure that for each line in the sheet, you have the same number of
fields even if some of the fields are blank. You might have to massage your
input csv file to make sure that's the case. So if you have something like
this:

John,Doe,Sales,Houston,Texas
Jane,Smith,Accounting,Arizona

You would want to modify that to

John,Doe,Sales,Houston,Texas
Jane,Smith,Accounting,,Arizona 

-Original Message-
From: Rich Milburn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 8:08 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] [slightly OT] scripting add users

That's what I was doing at first but I kept getting errors like the
subscript out of range.  I found that error on MSDN and maybe it's related
to the fact I have about 8 properties in the sheet but some of them are
blank for some records?? I'm trying a couple of things to fix it (like Dim
Array2(10)).  Is there anything obvious I might be missing on arrays, like
does an array in vbscript fill up if you assign values to it too many
times, or something like that??

I appreciate the scripts everyone's sending!  I know however that there are
easier ways to do this, except that for the PlumTree Portal and programs
we're writing for it, certain fields have to be formatted in certain ways,
there are store accounts and user accounts and they have to be treated
differently, passwords have to be generated and logged for reference, and
each separate CSV has to be put in its own group.  It's good practice, and
fun (in a perverse way).  I think each day I have been doubling my scripting
ability... have made some pretty cool scripts for the password expiration
project.  Anyway again thanks for all the help!

Rich

-Original Message-
From: Coleman, Hunter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 8:43 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] [slightly OT] scripting add users

I'm not sure about your specific problem, but you could simplify things a
bit by dropping the second array.

Do Until objFile.AtEndOfStream
 strNextLine = objTextFile.Readline
 Array1 = Split(strNextLine, ,)
 'Call populate users sub
Loop 

-Original Message-
From: Rich Milburn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 7:23 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ActiveDir] [slightly OT] scripting add users


I think this is a basic question but I am really new to scripting...

I'm adding users from a csv file and using an array to read the csv split
into lines, then spitting each line into another array (split for commas)
from the first array.  Do I need to do something to the array#2 before I
repopulate it with the next line?  If this is confusing, this might help

Array1 = Split(objFile, vbCrLf)

For n = 1 to Ubound(Array1)
'*** do something to Array2 here??
Array2 = Split(Array1(n), ,)
'Call populate users sub
Next

The reason I ask is I keep getting weird errors that don't seem to correlate
to the data being read in (I was getting these when I was reading in one
line at a time into Array2) errors like Subscript out of range, etc - and
googling only showed things from ASP pages that didn't apply.


Thanks for any help
Rich

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RE: [ActiveDir] OT? ADDING CONTACTS

2003-11-21 Thread Brown, Bill [contractor]
Tony,

Appreciate the feedback - however, I do not understand the [your comment] use of the 
standard ADUC vice the Exchange version.  Are you saying that the adds [manual and 
CSVDE] would be different if done on a DC that did not have E2K System Manager loaded? 
 In this case, both the manual and CSV adds were done on the same DC and being as this 
is a test bed scenario - E2K is also running on the DC.  Is there any way that this 
would affect replication in an exchange mixed mode environment?

R/Bill

 -Original Message-
From:   Tony Murray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent:   Friday, November 21, 2003 10:45 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: [ActiveDir] OT? ADDING CONTACTS

Bill

The difference is that your manual method uses the Exchange version of Active 
Directory Users and computers.  If you select the option to mail-enable the contact 
then it adds a whole bunch of attributes to the contact object in AD.  Compare the two 
extracts from LDP below, the first being a mail-enabled contact and the second not.

 Dn: CN=Alfred Contact,CN=Users,DC=root,DC=dom
1 cn: Alfred Contact; 
1 displayName: Alfred; 
1 mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
1 givenName: Alfred; 
1 instanceType: 0x4 = ( IT_WRITE ); 
1 legacyExchangeDN: /o=VMEX2003/ou=First Administrative 
Group/cn=Recipients/cn=AlfredContact; 
1 distinguishedName: CN=Alfred Contact,CN=Users,DC=root,DC=dom; 
1 objectCategory: CN=Person,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=root,DC=dom; 
4 objectClass: top; person; organizationalPerson; contact; 
1 objectGUID: f84228a6-7a7d-41de-be42-8877591f1467; 
2 proxyAddresses: SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]; X400:c=US;a= 
;p=VMEX2003;o=Exchange;s=Contact;g=Alfred;; 
1 name: Alfred Contact; 
2 showInAddressBook: CN=Default Global Address List,CN=All Global Address 
Lists,CN=Address Lists Container,CN=VMEX2003,CN=Microsoft 
Exchange,CN=Services,CN=Configuration,DC=root,DC=dom; CN=All Contacts,CN=All Address 
Lists,CN=Address Lists Container,CN=VMEX2003,CN=Microsoft 
Exchange,CN=Services,CN=Configuration,DC=root,DC=dom; 
1 sn: Contact; 
1 textEncodedORAddress: c=US;a= ;p=VMEX2003;o=Exchange;s=Contact;g=Alfred;; 
1 uSNChanged: 20782; 
1 uSNCreated: 20780; 
1 whenChanged: 11/21/2003 16:36:17 W. Europe Standard Time W. Europe Daylight 
Time; 
1 whenCreated: 11/21/2003 16:35:40 W. Europe Standard Time W. Europe Daylight 
Time; 
1 internetEncoding: 1310720; 
1 mailNickname: AlfredContact; 
1 mAPIRecipient: FALSE; 
1 targetAddress: SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
1 msExchALObjectVersion: 21; 
1 msExchPoliciesIncluded: 
{ECEFDA4D-8EEE-4CCF-A8DE-E8E00FAEE60B},{26491CFC-9E50-4857-861B-0CB8DF22B5D7}; 
---

 Dn: CN=Bobby Contact,CN=Users,DC=root,DC=dom
1 cn: Bobby Contact; 
1 displayName: Bobby; 
1 givenName: Bobby; 
1 instanceType: 0x4 = ( IT_WRITE ); 
1 distinguishedName: CN=Bobby Contact,CN=Users,DC=root,DC=dom; 
1 objectCategory: CN=Person,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=root,DC=dom; 
4 objectClass: top; person; organizationalPerson; contact; 
1 objectGUID: 71b94639-99f6-44bb-a393-50eeec2f2b93; 
1 name: Bobby Contact; 
1 sn: Contact; 
1 uSNChanged: 20786; 
1 uSNCreated: 20786; 
1 whenChanged: 11/21/2003 16:38:57 W. Europe Standard Time W. Europe Daylight 
Time; 
1 whenCreated: 11/21/2003 16:38:57 W. Europe Standard Time W. Europe Daylight 
Time; 
---

If you use the standard version of ADUC (dsa.msc) you won't populate all the 
Exchange-related content.

Tony

-- Original Message --
From: Brown, Bill [contractor] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:  Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:34:24 -0500

Not sure if this question is off-track or not.  I would not think so as it deals with 
AD attributes.  But if it is deemed OT - then my apologies to the list!

If you add contacts into AD via CSVDE, you specify certain required attributes and you 
additionally specify certain attributes that you want populated with specific values 
and you additionally specify the OU into which the imported contacts will be placed - 
OK, pretty much straight forward.

If you add a contact manually in a specific OU - AD wants to know the Associated 
Administrative Group that this contact is associated with - OK, again pretty much 
straight forward.

But wait, that was a different step from the CSVDE import!  My question to the list - 
What AD attribute is populated by selecting the Associated Administrative Group in the 
manual method as opposed to the import method?

R/Bill



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RE: [ActiveDir] Delegation best practices whitepaper

2003-11-21 Thread Kingslan, Rick T.
Hunter,

Thanks for the heads-up.  I guarantee this paper is going to spur more
discussion than anything that has come out in recent months.  This is
GREAT stuff!

Enjoy, all!

Rick Kingslan  MCSE, MCSA, MCT
Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
LAN Administration - Windows 2000
West Corporation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

-Original Message-
From: Coleman, Hunter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 9:11 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ActiveDir] Delegation best practices whitepaper

Looks like the long awaited delegation paper is out.

Best Practices for Delegating Active Directory Administration:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=631747a3-79e1-4
8fa-
9730-dae7c0a1d6d3displaylang=en

And the appendices:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=29dbae88-a216-4
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RE: [ActiveDir] Delegation best practices whitepaper

2003-11-21 Thread Thommes, Michael M.
Thanks, Hunter.  I just got them.  Be aware that the Best Practices whitepaper is 206 
pages and the Appendix (with all the task/permissions tables) is 223 pages.  (Printer 
is still smokin'.)  Guess I know what I will be doing this weekend!

Mike Thommes

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From: Coleman, Hunter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 9:11 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ActiveDir] Delegation best practices whitepaper


Looks like the long awaited delegation paper is out.

Best Practices for Delegating Active Directory Administration:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=631747a3-79e1-48fa-
9730-dae7c0a1d6d3displaylang=en

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http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=29dbae88-a216-45f9-
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[ActiveDir] AD Delegation Whitepaper now available on web

2003-11-21 Thread GRILLENMEIER,GUIDO (HP-Germany,ex1)



Finally - the AD 
Delegation Whitepaper is available on the web! There are two parts to it - the 
main whitepaper explaining how delegation really works. And second the really 
important appendices, which go into the details of which permissions need to be 
set to which object/attribute to perform a certain task, default 
permissionsetc.

Best Practices for Delegating Active 
Directory Administration (2.7 
MB)http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=631747a3-79e1-48fa-9730-dae7c0a1d6d3DisplayLang=en

Best Practices for Delegating Active 
Directory Administration Appendices (4.2 MB)http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=29dbae88-a216-45f9-9739-cb1fb22a0642DisplayLang=en

A few people on this 
list have extensively reviewed this paper - and I am sure you'll really like it. 


Enjoy 
;-)

/Guido


RE: [ActiveDir] Managing Sites in Forest with Empty Root

2003-11-21 Thread GRILLENMEIER,GUIDO (HP-Germany,ex1)



As John already said: it's not really wise to 
try to delegate everything, as otherwise you're giving away the keys to the 
kingdom afterall... And if this is your only reason for creating that 
extra empty root domain, then you might as well stick to a clean 
single-domain-forest model: as soon as you give domain admin rights to someone 
else in your child domain, you've basically passed out these precious 
keys.It's a simple thing for a domain admin to work himself up the tree 
and become Enterprise Admin - not necessarily what you'd expect, but that's the 
way it is. MS is finally being public about this - check out the AD 
Security Whitepaper that was released a while ago. It's best to keep a 
very small team with EA+DA rights and delegate other tasks on the OU level 
only.If you still want to delegate site-administration (even in a 
single-domain-forest) you'll have to grant numerous permissions on various 
objects to make this happen - but depending on what you really want to delegate, 
you may only need a few. Here is a sample from the upcoming AD Delegation 
Whitepaper from Microsoft (only 5 more days...):

  
  

  Task

  Permissions Required to 
  Perform Task
  

  Create a Site / Add a 
  Site

  CC on cn=Sites, cn=Configuration, 
  dc=ForestRootDomain (to create obejcts of class 
  Site)
  

  Rename a 
  Site

  WP on the corresponding site object, 
  cn=Site, cn=Sites, cn=Configuration, dc=forestRootDomain 
  to modify the common-name attribute 
  
  

  Specify the location of a 
  Site

  WP on the corresponding site object, 
  cn=Site, cn=Sites, cn=Configuration, dc=forestRootDomain 
  to modify the Location attribute 

  

  Associate a Group Policy with a 
  Site

  WP on the corresponding site object, 
  cn=Site, cn=Sites, cn=Configuration, dc=forestRootDomain 
  to modify the GP-Link attribute 
  

  Modify Site Group Policy 
  Options

  WP on the corresponding site object, 
  cn=Site, cn=Sites, cn=Configuration, dc=forestRootDomain 
  to modify the GP-Options attribute 
  
  

  Move a Domain Controller between 
  sites

  WP on the Server object being moved to 
  modify Common-Name attributeDC on the object cn=Servers, 
  cn=Current-Site, cn=Sites, cn=Configuration, 
  dc=forestRootDomain (to delete objects of class 
  Server)CC on the object cn=Servers, cn=New-Site, 
  cn=Sites, cn=Configuration, dc=forestRootDomain (to create objects 
  of class 
Server)/Guido-Original 
Message-From: John Reijnders [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Donnerstag, 20. November 2003 20:40To: 'Ravdal, Stig 
'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED] 'Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Managing Sites in 
Forest with Empty RootIf you want to delegate the rights to manage the 
stuff handled with AD SSyou need to delegate the "manage replication 
topology" to the right group.Site management is a task performed at forest 
level so delegating this rightmeans delegating the rights for the complete 
forest.Thinking about it ... you could try to limit the role of creating 
sites tolimited number of users/groups and the give specific admins only the 
rightsto manage these specific objects (i.e. attaching subnets to this 
site).However !!! be really conservative with the delagtion of this 
right. Doingthe wrong stuff can screw up your complete AD (in all domains 
within theforest). I personally prefer limiting this task to a very limited 
amount ofpeople.Cheers!John-Original 
Message-From: Ravdal, StigTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 
20-11-2003 18:17Subject: [ActiveDir] Managing Sites in Forest with Empty 
RootHi all,I'm a newbie to the forum and I think that this 
is the right place forthis question.I have setup new forest using an 
empty forest root (first domain/tree inforest). In the forest I have an 
operational domain the second domain inthe forest (and the first of three 
such single domain/single trees thatwill reside in the forest in addition to 
the empty forest root).What I would like to do is allow the first 
operational domain to managesites  services. I do not want the 
empty forest root to do anyadministrative tasks beyond holding the "keys to 
the kingdom" No usersor computers will reside in the empty forest root 
domain.How can I delegate the control of the Sites and 
Services?Also can I delegate the control of sites and services such 
that eachdomain/tree in the forest can do their own site 
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[ActiveDir] AD Delegation Whitepaper now available on web

2003-11-21 Thread GRILLENMEIER,GUIDO (HP-Germany,ex1)



Finally - the AD Delegation Whitepaper is available on 
the web! There are two parts to it - the main whitepaper 
explaining how delegation really works. And second the really important 
appendices, which go into the details of which permissions need to be set to 
which object/attribute to perform a certain task, default 
permissionsetc.

Best Practices for Delegating Active 
Directory Administration (2.7 
MB)http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=631747a3-79e1-48fa-9730-dae7c0a1d6d3DisplayLang=en

Best Practices for Delegating Active 
Directory Administration Appendices (4.2 MB)http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=29dbae88-a216-45f9-9739-cb1fb22a0642DisplayLang=en

A few people on this 
list have extensively reviewed this paper - and I am sure you'll really like it. 


Enjoy 
;-)

/Guido


[ActiveDir] How to move DFS Replica

2003-11-21 Thread Rimmerman, Russ

Help.  We have a DFS share that includes a replica pointing to a share on
our domain controller.  Unfortunately, this share is filling up the C: drive
of our domain controller.  How do I move this share to another fileserver so
I can get it off of the DC?  It's all our roaming profile directories.

Thanks

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[ActiveDir] Accounts not being unlocked automatically????

2003-11-21 Thread Douglas M. Long
I have my domain level GP set to unlock a locked user account 10 minutes
after it has been locked out, but it is not unlocking the account. Any
ideas

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RE: [ActiveDir] Accounts not being unlocked automatically????

2003-11-21 Thread Rimmerman, Russ

It won't uncheck the account locked out box, but if you try to logon with
the correct password after the 10 minutes is up, it'll let you login, and
the box will then be unchecked.  I was confused by that as well.



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Subject: [ActiveDir] Accounts not being unlocked automatically


I have my domain level GP set to unlock a locked user account 10 minutes
after it has been locked out, but it is not unlocking the account. Any
ideas

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RE: [ActiveDir] Managing Sites in Forest with Empty Root

2003-11-21 Thread Thommes, Michael M.



thought you might be interested in this

  -Original Message-From: GRILLENMEIER,GUIDO 
  (HP-Germany,ex1) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, 
  November 20, 2003 2:06 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Ravdal, 
  Stig 'Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Managing Sites in Forest with Empty 
  Root
  As John already said: it's not really wise to 
  try to delegate everything, as otherwise you're giving away the keys to the 
  kingdom afterall... And if this is your only reason for creating that 
  extra empty root domain, then you might as well stick to a clean 
  single-domain-forest model: as soon as you give domain admin rights to someone 
  else in your child domain, you've basically passed out these precious 
  keys.It's a simple thing for a domain admin to work himself up the 
  tree and become Enterprise Admin - not necessarily what you'd expect, but 
  that's the way it is. MS is finally being public about this - check out 
  the AD Security Whitepaper that was released a while ago. It's best to 
  keep a very small team with EA+DA rights and delegate other tasks on the OU 
  level only.If you still want to delegate site-administration (even in 
  a single-domain-forest) you'll have to grant numerous permissions on various 
  objects to make this happen - but depending on what you really want to 
  delegate, you may only need a few. Here is a sample from the upcoming AD 
  Delegation Whitepaper from Microsoft (only 5 more days...):
  


  
Task
  
Permissions Required to 
Perform Task

  
Create a Site / Add a 
Site
  
CC on cn=Sites, cn=Configuration, 
dc=ForestRootDomain (to create obejcts of class 
Site)

  
Rename a 
Site
  
WP on the corresponding site object, 
cn=Site, cn=Sites, cn=Configuration, dc=forestRootDomain 
to modify the common-name attribute 
  

  
Specify the location of a 
Site
  
WP on the corresponding site object, 
cn=Site, cn=Sites, cn=Configuration, dc=forestRootDomain 
to modify the Location attribute 


  
Associate a Group Policy with a 
Site
  
WP on the corresponding site object, 
cn=Site, cn=Sites, cn=Configuration, dc=forestRootDomain 
to modify the GP-Link attribute 


  
Modify Site Group Policy 
Options
  
WP on the corresponding site object, 
cn=Site, cn=Sites, cn=Configuration, dc=forestRootDomain 
to modify the GP-Options attribute 
  

  
Move a Domain Controller between 
sites
  
WP on the Server object being moved 
to modify Common-Name attributeDC on the object cn=Servers, 
cn=Current-Site, cn=Sites, cn=Configuration, 
dc=forestRootDomain (to delete objects of class 
Server)CC on the object cn=Servers, cn=New-Site, 
cn=Sites, cn=Configuration, dc=forestRootDomain (to create 
objects of class 
  Server)/Guido-Original 
  Message-From: John Reijnders [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Donnerstag, 20. November 2003 20:40To: 'Ravdal, Stig 
  '; '[EMAIL PROTECTED] 'Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Managing Sites 
  in Forest with Empty RootIf you want to delegate the rights to manage 
  the stuff handled with AD SSyou need to delegate the "manage 
  replication topology" to the right group.Site management is a task 
  performed at forest level so delegating this rightmeans delegating the 
  rights for the complete forest.Thinking about it ... you could try to 
  limit the role of creating sites tolimited number of users/groups and the 
  give specific admins only the rightsto manage these specific objects (i.e. 
  attaching subnets to this site).However !!! be really conservative 
  with the delagtion of this right. Doingthe wrong stuff can screw up your 
  complete AD (in all domains within theforest). I personally prefer 
  limiting this task to a very limited amount 
  ofpeople.Cheers!John-Original 
  Message-From: Ravdal, StigTo: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 20-11-2003 18:17Subject: [ActiveDir] 
  Managing Sites in Forest with Empty RootHi all,I'm a 
  newbie to the forum and I think that this is the right place forthis 
  question.I have setup new forest using an empty forest root (first 
  domain/tree inforest). In the forest I have an operational domain the 
  second domain inthe forest (and the first of three such single 
  domain/single trees thatwill reside in the forest in addition to the empty 
  forest root).What I would like to do is allow the first 
  operational domain to managesites  services. I do not want the 
  empty forest root to do anyadministrative tasks beyond holding the "keys 
  to the kingdom" No usersor computers will reside in the empty forest 
  root domain.How can I delegate the control of the Sites and 
  Services?Also can I delegate the 

[ActiveDir] Memory Dump Error!

2003-11-21 Thread Richard Sumilang
On my Windows 2k Server for the first time I got a blue screen of death 
that reported a memory dump error with a countdown. The countdown 
seemed like it went on forever so I just had to forcefully restart the 
computer and so far it looks fine however I would like to know what 
caused that and is there a way to prevent that? Perhaps third part 
software or something?

Thanks,
Richard S.
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RE: [ActiveDir] Memory Dump Error!

2003-11-21 Thread Salandra, Justin A.
Look for the dump file, that would be a good start.  Also look through the
event logs.

 -Original Message-
From:   Richard Sumilang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent:   Friday, November 21, 2003 2:24 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:[ActiveDir] Memory Dump Error!

On my Windows 2k Server for the first time I got a blue screen of death 
that reported a memory dump error with a countdown. The countdown 
seemed like it went on forever so I just had to forcefully restart the 
computer and so far it looks fine however I would like to know what 
caused that and is there a way to prevent that? Perhaps third part 
software or something?

Thanks,
Richard S.

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RE: [ActiveDir] Memory Dump Error!

2003-11-21 Thread Kingslan, Rick T.
I'll make the potentially bad assumption that you don't mean how do I
prevent the blue screen, but more the countdown as it dumps the entire
contents of memory to a .dmp file.   I could make a lot more money for
telling you how to prevent the blue screen, given the information that I
have in front of me!  ;-)

As to the countdown - if you have no intent to make use of a dump file,
you can reduce what is saved to a kernel dump or a mini dump or
eliminate it completely.

On Windows 2000, you would go to My Computer - Properties - Advanced
then the Startup and Recovery button.  Choose which type of memory dump
you want, or choose None to eliminate it.

Rick Kingslan  MCSE, MCSA, MCT
Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
LAN Administration - Windows 2000
West Corporation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: Richard Sumilang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 1:24 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ActiveDir] Memory Dump Error!

On my Windows 2k Server for the first time I got a blue screen of death
that reported a memory dump error with a countdown. The countdown seemed
like it went on forever so I just had to forcefully restart the computer
and so far it looks fine however I would like to know what caused that
and is there a way to prevent that? Perhaps third part software or
something?

Thanks,
Richard S.

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Re: [ActiveDir] Memory Dump Error!

2003-11-21 Thread Richard Sumilang
Ok how do I prevent the blue screen :-) ?

Also... Where might the dump file be stored?



On Nov 21, 2003, at 11:39 AM, Kingslan, Rick T. wrote:

I'll make the potentially bad assumption that you don't mean how do I
prevent the blue screen, but more the countdown as it dumps the entire
contents of memory to a .dmp file.   I could make a lot more money for
telling you how to prevent the blue screen, given the information that 
I
have in front of me!  ;-)

As to the countdown - if you have no intent to make use of a dump file,
you can reduce what is saved to a kernel dump or a mini dump or
eliminate it completely.
On Windows 2000, you would go to My Computer - Properties - Advanced
then the Startup and Recovery button.  Choose which type of memory dump
you want, or choose None to eliminate it.
Rick Kingslan  MCSE, MCSA, MCT
Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
LAN Administration - Windows 2000
West Corporation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original Message-
From: Richard Sumilang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 1:24 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ActiveDir] Memory Dump Error!
On my Windows 2k Server for the first time I got a blue screen of death
that reported a memory dump error with a countdown. The countdown 
seemed
like it went on forever so I just had to forcefully restart the 
computer
and so far it looks fine however I would like to know what caused that
and is there a way to prevent that? Perhaps third part software or
something?

Thanks,
Richard S.
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Re: [ActiveDir] Memory Dump Error!

2003-11-21 Thread Richard Sumilang
Ok better question... I found the MEMORY.DMP file in my system root but 
how do I open a 255mb file into a text editor? Which text editor should 
I use?

On Nov 21, 2003, at 11:23 AM, Richard Sumilang wrote:

On my Windows 2k Server for the first time I got a blue screen of 
death that reported a memory dump error with a countdown. The 
countdown seemed like it went on forever so I just had to forcefully 
restart the computer and so far it looks fine however I would like to 
know what caused that and is there a way to prevent that? Perhaps 
third part software or something?

Thanks,
Richard S.
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RE: [ActiveDir] Managing Sites in Forest with Empty Root

2003-11-21 Thread Ravdal, Stig



Hi 
Guido,
Thanks 
for the info. I am aware of the security hole so this may really boil down 
to perception. The client has a requirement that two of their business 
units operate with greater autonomy - to the point of being able to be spun off 
entirely should that be the best for business. They frequently aquire new 
companies and divest smaller organizations and that is what led to the model 
ofa forest of trees (single domains)with an empty forest root 
(tree/domain).

As far 
as the EA rights are concerned it may be possible for an admin in any tree in 
the forest to elevate his/her privileges, butit is somewhat unlikely in 
this organization - the clinets main business unit/companyhas outsourced 
all administration to a very large outsourcing company and they have a 
paper-based procedure for everything - quite bureaucratic really. That is 
not to say that there couldn't be some disgruntled empoyee that causes trouble 
down the road.

Thanks 
for the response Guido, I'll also look for the 
whitepapers.

Cheers,

Stig

  -Original Message-From: GRILLENMEIER,GUIDO 
  (HP-Germany,ex1) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, 
  November 20, 2003 12:06 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Ravdal, 
  StigSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Managing Sites in Forest with Empty 
  Root
  As John already said: it's not really wise to 
  try to delegate everything, as otherwise you're giving away the keys to the 
  kingdom afterall... And if this is your only reason for creating that 
  extra empty root domain, then you might as well stick to a clean 
  single-domain-forest model: as soon as you give domain admin rights to someone 
  else in your child domain, you've basically passed out these precious 
  keys.It's a simple thing for a domain admin to work himself up the 
  tree and become Enterprise Admin - not necessarily what you'd expect, but 
  that's the way it is. MS is finally being public about this - check out 
  the AD Security Whitepaper that was released a while ago. It's best to 
  keep a very small team with EA+DA rights and delegate other tasks on the OU 
  level only.If you still want to delegate site-administration (even in 
  a single-domain-forest) you'll have to grant numerous permissions on various 
  objects to make this happen - but depending on what you really want to 
  delegate, you may only need a few. Here is a sample from the upcoming AD 
  Delegation Whitepaper from Microsoft (only 5 more days...):
  


  
Task
  
Permissions Required to 
Perform Task

  
Create a Site / Add a 
Site
  
CC on cn=Sites, cn=Configuration, 
dc=ForestRootDomain (to create obejcts of class 
Site)

  
Rename a 
Site
  
WP on the corresponding site object, 
cn=Site, cn=Sites, cn=Configuration, dc=forestRootDomain 
to modify the common-name attribute 
  

  
Specify the location of a 
Site
  
WP on the corresponding site object, 
cn=Site, cn=Sites, cn=Configuration, dc=forestRootDomain 
to modify the Location attribute 


  
Associate a Group Policy with a 
Site
  
WP on the corresponding site object, 
cn=Site, cn=Sites, cn=Configuration, dc=forestRootDomain 
to modify the GP-Link attribute 


  
Modify Site Group Policy 
Options
  
WP on the corresponding site object, 
cn=Site, cn=Sites, cn=Configuration, dc=forestRootDomain 
to modify the GP-Options attribute 
  

  
Move a Domain Controller between 
sites
  
WP on the Server object being moved 
to modify Common-Name attributeDC on the object cn=Servers, 
cn=Current-Site, cn=Sites, cn=Configuration, 
dc=forestRootDomain (to delete objects of class 
Server)CC on the object cn=Servers, cn=New-Site, 
cn=Sites, cn=Configuration, dc=forestRootDomain (to create 
objects of class 
  Server)/Guido-Original 
  Message-From: John Reijnders [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Donnerstag, 20. November 2003 20:40To: 'Ravdal, Stig 
  '; '[EMAIL PROTECTED] 'Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Managing Sites 
  in Forest with Empty RootIf you want to delegate the rights to manage 
  the stuff handled with AD SSyou need to delegate the "manage 
  replication topology" to the right group.Site management is a task 
  performed at forest level so delegating this rightmeans delegating the 
  rights for the complete forest.Thinking about it ... you could try to 
  limit the role of creating sites tolimited number of users/groups and the 
  give specific admins only the rightsto manage these specific objects (i.e. 
  attaching subnets to this site).However !!! be really conservative 
  with the delagtion of this right. Doingthe wrong stuff can screw up your 
  complete AD (in all domains within 

RE: [ActiveDir] Memory Dump Error!

2003-11-21 Thread Rich Milburn
While someone is answering that question below ('cause I don't know how
either) can someone say what you look for in a dump file Is there a
reference out there?

-Original Message-
From: Richard Sumilang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 2:04 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Memory Dump Error!

Ok better question... I found the MEMORY.DMP file in my system root but 
how do I open a 255mb file into a text editor? Which text editor should 
I use?


On Nov 21, 2003, at 11:23 AM, Richard Sumilang wrote:

 On my Windows 2k Server for the first time I got a blue screen of 
 death that reported a memory dump error with a countdown. The 
 countdown seemed like it went on forever so I just had to forcefully 
 restart the computer and so far it looks fine however I would like to 
 know what caused that and is there a way to prevent that? Perhaps 
 third part software or something?

 Thanks,
 Richard S.

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[ActiveDir] Mirror OU structure to Test

2003-11-21 Thread Jef Kazimer
Hi all,

I have an urgent need to mirror our production OU structure to our Test Platform.   Is 
anyone aware of a script or tool where I can export and import the structure?

If sowould they share? :)

I think I can write something, but if anyone has a pointer in the right direction to 
an already existing one, that would help out alot!

Thanks,

Jef


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RE: [ActiveDir] Memory Dump Error!

2003-11-21 Thread Salandra, Justin A.
 On Windows 2000, you would go to My Computer - Properties - Advanced
* then the Startup and Recovery button.  

This should show you.

 -Original Message-
From:   Richard Sumilang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent:   Friday, November 21, 2003 3:02 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: [ActiveDir] Memory Dump Error!

Ok how do I prevent the blue screen :-) ?

Also... Where might the dump file be stored?




On Nov 21, 2003, at 11:39 AM, Kingslan, Rick T. wrote:

 I'll make the potentially bad assumption that you don't mean how do I
 prevent the blue screen, but more the countdown as it dumps the entire
 contents of memory to a .dmp file.   I could make a lot more money for
 telling you how to prevent the blue screen, given the information that 
 I
 have in front of me!  ;-)

 As to the countdown - if you have no intent to make use of a dump file,
 you can reduce what is saved to a kernel dump or a mini dump or
 eliminate it completely.

 On Windows 2000, you would go to My Computer - Properties - Advanced
 then the Startup and Recovery button.  Choose which type of memory dump
 you want, or choose None to eliminate it.

 Rick Kingslan  MCSE, MCSA, MCT
 Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
 LAN Administration - Windows 2000
 West Corporation
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 -Original Message-
 From: Richard Sumilang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 1:24 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [ActiveDir] Memory Dump Error!

 On my Windows 2k Server for the first time I got a blue screen of death
 that reported a memory dump error with a countdown. The countdown 
 seemed
 like it went on forever so I just had to forcefully restart the 
 computer
 and so far it looks fine however I would like to know what caused that
 and is there a way to prevent that? Perhaps third part software or
 something?

 Thanks,
 Richard S.

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RE: [ActiveDir] Memory Dump Error!

2003-11-21 Thread Salandra, Justin A.
I believe there is a Q article that can walk you though it.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=http://support.microsoft.com:
80/support/kb/articles/q192/4/63.aspNoWebContent=1

This will let you find out what type of exception code occurred and then you
can do a search on that code and see what you find out

 -Original Message-
From:   Rich Milburn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent:   Friday, November 21, 2003 3:11 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:RE: [ActiveDir] Memory Dump Error!

While someone is answering that question below ('cause I don't know how
either) can someone say what you look for in a dump file Is there a
reference out there?

-Original Message-
From: Richard Sumilang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 2:04 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Memory Dump Error!

Ok better question... I found the MEMORY.DMP file in my system root but 
how do I open a 255mb file into a text editor? Which text editor should 
I use?


On Nov 21, 2003, at 11:23 AM, Richard Sumilang wrote:

 On my Windows 2k Server for the first time I got a blue screen of 
 death that reported a memory dump error with a countdown. The 
 countdown seemed like it went on forever so I just had to forcefully 
 restart the computer and so far it looks fine however I would like to 
 know what caused that and is there a way to prevent that? Perhaps 
 third part software or something?

 Thanks,
 Richard S.

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RE: [ActiveDir] Mirror OU structure to Test

2003-11-21 Thread Coleman, Hunter
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=237677 has an example of how to do this
with LDIFDE. Very easy and fast

Hunter 

-Original Message-
From: Jef Kazimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 1:32 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ActiveDir] Mirror OU structure to Test

Hi all,

I have an urgent need to mirror our production OU structure to our Test
Platform.   Is anyone aware of a script or tool where I can export and
import the structure?

If sowould they share? :)

I think I can write something, but if anyone has a pointer in the right
direction to an already existing one, that would help out alot!

Thanks,

Jef


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RE: [ActiveDir] Memory Dump Error!

2003-11-21 Thread Free, Bob
Search the KB for dumpchk there are some good articles on how to extract
the basic info you need from the dmp file  (without needing access to
the symbol files to do really indepth debugging)

There was a really good webcast on it a couple years ago by one of the
Premier guys, called Basic STOP Error (Blue Screen) Troubleshooting I
don't remember if it was premiere only or not since I just kept a hard
copy of the slides but I've seen copies of the presentation on the web

-Original Message-
From: Rich Milburn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 12:11 PM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Memory Dump Error!

While someone is answering that question below ('cause I don't know how
either) can someone say what you look for in a dump file Is there a
reference out there?

-Original Message-
From: Richard Sumilang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 2:04 PM
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Ok better question... I found the MEMORY.DMP file in my system root but
how do I open a 255mb file into a text editor? Which text editor should
I use?


On Nov 21, 2003, at 11:23 AM, Richard Sumilang wrote:

 On my Windows 2k Server for the first time I got a blue screen of 
 death that reported a memory dump error with a countdown. The 
 countdown seemed like it went on forever so I just had to forcefully 
 restart the computer and so far it looks fine however I would like to 
 know what caused that and is there a way to prevent that? Perhaps 
 third part software or something?

 Thanks,
 Richard S.

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RE: [ActiveDir] Mirror OU structure to Test

2003-11-21 Thread Jef Kazimer
Hunter,

Awesome!  I was just looking at the syntax for LDIFDE too, but this was easy! :)

Jef

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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Mirror OU structure to Test
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 14:00:43 -0700

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=237677 has an example of how to do this
with LDIFDE. Very easy and fast

Hunter 

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From: Jef Kazimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 1:32 PM
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Subject: [ActiveDir] Mirror OU structure to Test

Hi all,

I have an urgent need to mirror our production OU structure to our Test
Platform.   Is anyone aware of a script or tool where I can export and
import the structure?

If sowould they share? :)

I think I can write something, but if anyone has a pointer in the right
direction to an already existing one, that would help out alot!

Thanks,

Jef


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RE: [ActiveDir] Accounts not being unlocked automatically????

2003-11-21 Thread Douglas M. Long
Thank you Russ. I can't believe I didnt even think to try logging on, even
though the check was still there. Anyways...thanks again



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I have my domain level GP set to unlock a locked user account 10 minutes
after it has been locked out, but it is not unlocking the account. Any
ideas

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RE: [ActiveDir] Export of users includes computer accounts.

2003-11-21 Thread Mike Newell
Thanks for the explanation, makes sense now.

Well... It makes sense why I was getting the computer accounts in the
export anyway. 

Thanks again,
Mike.

-Original Message-
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Export of users includes computer accounts.

The reason for the unexpected result from your first search filter is
because the object class computer is a sub class of the user object
class.  So when you search using the objectClass=user filter  the search
will include any sub-classes of user.  If you look at the attributes
of a computer object using, for example, LDP, you will see something
like this.

objectClass: top; person; organizationalPerson; user; computer; 

The computer object class has some attributes of its own, but also
inherits all the attributes from the user object class.  This means
that you could (if you wanted to) assign, for example, emloyeeID and
telephoneNumber attribute values for a computer object.

Tony

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Date:  Thu, 20 Nov 2003 15:34:45 -0800

That did it! 

Thanks Hunter,
Mike


-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 3:29 PM
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Change your filter to something like
((objectClass=user)(objectCategory=person)) and give it a go.

Hunter 

-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 4:16 PM
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Subject: [ActiveDir] Export of users includes computer accounts.

Hey all,
I'm looking to export users to import into another forest as contacts. I
run the command below to export users from my Windows 2000 AD. 

CSVDE -f contacts.csv -r ((objectClass=user)) -l
objectClass,displayName,DN,mailNickname,proxyAddress,targetAddress,mail


It exports all of the user info but it also includes the Computer
accounts in the export. Anyone know why this export command would
include Computer accounts? More curious as to what I'm doing wrong more
than anything.

Thanks,
Mike.
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RE: [ActiveDir] Accounts not being unlocked automatically????

2003-11-21 Thread Joe
Check out unlock from www.joeware.net on the free win32 tools page, it will
always show you the proper info for accounts as to whether they are locked
or not.

The issue is that it isn't a simple thing in W2K AD to determine the locked
status of an account using LDAP. 

  joe 


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Thank you Russ. I can't believe I didnt even think to try logging on, even
though the check was still there. Anyways...thanks again



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Subject: [ActiveDir] Accounts not being unlocked automatically


I have my domain level GP set to unlock a locked user account 10 minutes
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