RE: [ActiveDir] Script Blocking

2005-04-20 Thread freddy_hartono








Run logon script synchronously
should take care of this setting, as it will load startup scripts first before
the explorer shell.



Check out the settings under Computer
config\Admin templates\System\Scripts\



But if its considered as a virus, try
creating a batch file which calls this vbs script and see if it works as a
workaround..





Thank you and have a splendid day!



Kind Regards,



Freddy Hartono

Windows Administrator (ADSM/NT Security)

Spherion Technology Group, Singapore

For Agilent Technologies

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Blocking







Hi Freddy

I have deployed limitlogin which depends on a Visual Basic Script on logon and
logoff.
I don't think it could be considered a virus but certainly some of the users
view it in this way!

Some versions of Norton antivirus block scripts by default (or ask the user) as
do most personal firewalls.



Regards

Peter Jessop








Re: [ActiveDir] Script Blocking

2005-04-20 Thread Peter Jessop
Freddy

I tried these two methods but they have not solved the problem.

Norton detects these scripts and asks the user if (s)he wants to run them.

Regards

P

RE: [ActiveDir] Script Blocking

2005-04-20 Thread Steve Rochford



Just for info, Microsoft's Spyware blocker picks up all 
script files and prompts if you want to run them - if you say "yes" it remembers 
it for the future but if you say no then it never runs.

I'm not sure if signing the script would 
help???

Steve

  
  
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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 20 April 2005 
  06:52To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: 
  [ActiveDir] Script Blocking
  
  
  Run logon script 
  synchronously should take care of this setting, as it will load startup 
  scripts first before the explorer shell.
  
  Check out the 
  settings under Computer config\Admin 
  templates\System\Scripts\
  
  But if its considered 
  as a virus, try creating a batch file which calls this vbs script and see if 
  it works as a workaround..
  
  
  Thank you and have a splendid 
  day!
  
  


[ActiveDir] OT Exchange Move Mailbox Roll Back Plan

2005-04-20 Thread 'Jacqui Hurst'
Having migrated sites using the move mailbox function previously I'm am
pretty confident that I won't need to use a roll back plan however it is
obviously important to have one.

I am looking at moving approx 1400 mailboxes from one Exchange 5.5 server in
a single site multi server organisation to an Exchange 2003 server in the
same site.  The ADC is in place using one-way synchronisation and is all
functioning quite happily.

Message flow etc all appears to be working fine and this really is just a
confidence booster migration for the client.

My question relates to the options available for rollback should there be
major issues the following morning.

I have looked at several options which include moving the mailboxes back
using the same tool, using exmerge to create a backup however I have not got
too far with this as I am having difficulties listing mailboxes (maybe due
to AV).  Finally if most of the users are having issues to restore the
Exchange 5.5 server back to its original state.  I wanted to check if anyone
had ever had to roll back from a large move mailbox process (taking over 5
hours) and if so how they went about it.  Secondly with regard to the
Exchange 5.5 restore will I need to restore anything in the AD to update
where the users mailboxes are or will the ADC sort this out following the
restore (I intend to restore the DIR and PRIV edb files)

Your experiences would be welcome even if it is just to confirm my feeling
that this is a highly unlikely scenario.

Regards,

Jacqui



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[ActiveDir] Policies:

2005-04-20 Thread Blair, James



Hope 
someonecan help. There seems to be a strange policy on our Workstation or 
Global User baseline that is effecting users on client workstations to not be 
able to:

Access UNC paths 
outside their subnet even though they are able to ping and resolve these names 
through DNS.
Utilise remote 
connection software to different subnets.
I am going through all the settings and 
comparing RSOP data but as you are all able to appreciate it is a fairly long 
and arduous process. One thing I am able to rule out is that is not service 
related.

Any help would be be 
appreciated.

James




[ActiveDir] Restricting sensitive information

2005-04-20 Thread Rimmerman, Russ
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We have a problem in discussion where we need to restrict sensitive HIPAA 
information to a very select few employees in the US and only one or two people 
overseas.  The problem is, we have about 10-15 domain admins worldwide in our 
single domain, and this is too many people to have access to the HIPAA data.  
Rather than take domain admin priviledges away, whereby breaking their ability 
to promote domain controllers, etc - what's an easy way to have a share on a 
file server restricted to only a select few of the domain admins? 

We were thinking of maybe adding a 2nd domain just for the server with this 
share on it.  Then only enterprise admins would have access to that other 
domain, so only they could see that share.  Is there an alternative to 
something this drastic?  
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Re: [ActiveDir] Restricting sensitive information

2005-04-20 Thread Peter Jessop
Original Message:

We have a problem in discussion where we need to restrict sensitive HIPAA 
information to a very select few employees in the US and only one or two people 
overseas. The problem is, we have about 10-15 domain admins worldwide in our 
single domain, and this is too many people to have access to the HIPAA data. 
Rather than take domain admin priviledges away, whereby breaking their ability 
to promote domain controllers, etc - what's an easy way to have a share on a 
file server restricted to only a select few of the domain admins? 

We 
were thinking of maybe adding a 2nd domain just for the server with this share 
on it. Then only enterprise admins would have access to that other domain, so 
only they could see that share. Is there an alternative to something this 
drastic? 

Reply

Why not simply install the server out of the domain completely and use it's local accounts?

Regards

Peter Jessop



Re: [ActiveDir] Policies:

2005-04-20 Thread Mark Parris
Are they Netbios UNC or fqdn DNS UNC paths, does one work and not the other ?
-Original Message-
From: Blair, James [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 21:19:15 
To:ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] Policies:

Hope someone can help. There seems to be a strange policy on our Workstation or 
Global User baseline that is effecting users on client workstations to not be 
able to: 
 
Access UNC paths outside their subnet even though they are able to ping and 
resolve these names through DNS. 
Utilise remote connection software to different subnets. 

I am going through all the settings and comparing RSOP data but as you are all 
able to appreciate it is a fairly long and arduous process. One thing I am able 
to rule out is that is not service related. 
 
Any help would be be appreciated. 
 
James 
 
 
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RE: [ActiveDir] Policies:

2005-04-20 Thread Blair, James
 
All do not work...IP, Netbios  FQDN

James

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Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Policies:

Are they Netbios UNC or fqdn DNS UNC paths, does one work and not the
other ?
-Original Message-
From: Blair, James [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 21:19:15
To:ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] Policies:

Hope someone can help. There seems to be a strange policy on our
Workstation or Global User baseline that is effecting users on client
workstations to not be able to: 
 
Access UNC paths outside their subnet even though they are able to ping
and resolve these names through DNS. 
Utilise remote connection software to different subnets. 

I am going through all the settings and comparing RSOP data but as you
are all able to appreciate it is a fairly long and arduous process. One
thing I am able to rule out is that is not service related. 
 
Any help would be be appreciated. 
 
James 
 
 
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RE: [ActiveDir] Policies:

2005-04-20 Thread jpsalemi
Hi James...

A policy shouldn't affect a subnet only, unless it's a site policy.
Unless Im misunderstanding you?

Sounds more like private addressing actually.  169.245 ip range?  At least
to me.

That would keep clients only accessing others on their perceived subnet.

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All do not work...IP, Netbios  FQDN

James

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Are they Netbios UNC or fqdn DNS UNC paths, does one work and not the
other ?
-Original Message-
From: Blair, James [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 21:19:15
To:ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] Policies:

Hope someone can help. There seems to be a strange policy on our
Workstation or Global User baseline that is effecting users on client
workstations to not be able to:

Access UNC paths outside their subnet even though they are able to ping
and resolve these names through DNS.
Utilise remote connection software to different subnets.

I am going through all the settings and comparing RSOP data but as you
are all able to appreciate it is a fairly long and arduous process. One
thing I am able to rule out is that is not service related.

Any help would be be appreciated.

James


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RE: [ActiveDir] Policies:

2005-04-20 Thread Jorge de Almeida Pinto
In the end both NetBIOS and FQDN are resolved to IPs. Although you can ping
the machines does not mean you can access the same machines on other ports.
Are you using firewalls in between or do those target systems have firewalls
installed, enabled and configured? If yes, check which ports are allowed

Jorge

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All do not work...IP, Netbios  FQDN

James

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Are they Netbios UNC or fqdn DNS UNC paths, does one work and not the other
?
-Original Message-
From: Blair, James [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 21:19:15
To:ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] Policies:

Hope someone can help. There seems to be a strange policy on our Workstation
or Global User baseline that is effecting users on client workstations to
not be able to: 
 
Access UNC paths outside their subnet even though they are able to ping and
resolve these names through DNS. 
Utilise remote connection software to different subnets. 

I am going through all the settings and comparing RSOP data but as you are
all able to appreciate it is a fairly long and arduous process. One thing I
am able to rule out is that is not service related. 
 
Any help would be be appreciated. 
 
James 
 
 
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RE: [ActiveDir] Policies:

2005-04-20 Thread Burkes, Jeremy [Contractor]
If he has a router ACL or firewall(s) between the two networks he is
going to need port 445 opened for tcp and udp for SMB traffic.

Jeremy 

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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Policies:

In the end both NetBIOS and FQDN are resolved to IPs. Although you can
ping the machines does not mean you can access the same machines on
other ports.
Are you using firewalls in between or do those target systems have
firewalls installed, enabled and configured? If yes, check which ports
are allowed

Jorge

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All do not work...IP, Netbios  FQDN

James

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Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Policies:

Are they Netbios UNC or fqdn DNS UNC paths, does one work and not the
other ?
-Original Message-
From: Blair, James [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 21:19:15
To:ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] Policies:

Hope someone can help. There seems to be a strange policy on our
Workstation or Global User baseline that is effecting users on client
workstations to not be able to: 
 
Access UNC paths outside their subnet even though they are able to ping
and resolve these names through DNS. 
Utilise remote connection software to different subnets. 

I am going through all the settings and comparing RSOP data but as you
are all able to appreciate it is a fairly long and arduous process. One
thing I am able to rule out is that is not service related. 
 
Any help would be be appreciated. 
 
James 
 
 
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RE: [ActiveDir] AD access strong authentication required

2005-04-20 Thread Olivier Marie








Guy, you wrote :



If you want to enable simple binds, set:

-
The Domain controller: LDAP server signing
requirements = None

-
The Network security: LDAP client signing
requirements = Negotiate



Also set in Default Domain GPO:

The Network security: LDAP client signing
requirements = Negotiate
(to make sure that all windows clients do not try simple binds)





We find the two first settings
but not the last (Also set in Default Domain
GPO). We work on french version of win 2003, and our knowledge of 2003 is
very poor. Could you tell me how to set this, we can't find the right path for
this

Many thanks

Olivier















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Envoyé: lundi 18 avril 2005
16:20
À:
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Objet: RE: [ActiveDir] AD
access strong authentication required





Our AD isn't win2000
upgraded to 2003 (it's a new one).

Sorry for my but
I can always connect from php to AD using anonymous connection (works
great) Effectively, I can just bind to rootDSE.



We will try to use SSL,
but for our tests we will perhaps try in a first time to modify the settings
for Ldap settings.





Many thanks for your
answer, I will tell you if we success or not !

Olivier



















De:
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Envoyé: lundi 18 avril 2005
15:41
À:
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Objet: RE: [ActiveDir] AD
access strong authentication required





By default anonymous
LDAP operations are disabled in W2K3 AD (you are only allowed to perform base
search on RootDSE).



First the warning:
enabling anonymous LDAP operations and/or disabling LDAP singing weakens the
security of your AD and opens some nasty holes that can be exploited by bad
people.



The best option would
be performing an LDAP over SSL bind to DC if you have SSL enabled on the DCs.
If not then you can tackle the problem by:

1)
If you do not want to send the passwords over the wire, you can
allow anonymous binds/searches to a strictly defined set of attributes
(assuming that those do not contain sensitive data). More details here:
shameless plug http://www.petri.co.il/anonymous_ldap_operations_in_windows_2003_ad.htm
/shameless plug



2)
If you still want to pull the data after successful authentication
(youll need to perform authenticated simple bind from within PHP code).
There are 2 settings that control the LDAP signing (both located under Computer
Configuration\Windows Settings\Security Settings\Local Policies\Security
Options of the Default Domain Controllers GPO):

a.
Domain Controller: LDAP server signing requirement

b.
Network security: LDAP client signing requirement (default =
undefined)

If you want to enable simple binds, set:

- The Domain controller: LDAP server
signing requirements = None

- The Network security: LDAP
client signing requirements = Negotiate

Also set in Default Domain GPO:

The Network security: LDAP client signing
requirements = Negotiate
(to make sure that all windows clients do not try simple binds)

Now this option is VERY nasty as you are opening a door to clear
text passwords traveling across your network and letting anyone with a sniffer
grab passwords from the wire. I would try to avoid this one at all cost.



Btw, regarding but
I can always connect from php to AD using anonymous connection (works
great).

Can you elaborate on
this one ? can you actually query the AD or you can only bind to RootDSE ? Is
this W2K AD upgraded to W2K3 ?





Guy













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Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 2:56
PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] AD access
strong authentication required





Hello everybody



I would add an entry in my AD (win 2003) from a
server RedHat/Apache/PHP.



I was connecting with ldap_connect, using admin user
login and password. 

Everything was ok but some patches and reboot was
done by another person, and now It doesn't work :



- When I connect with admin user login and password,
I obtain strong authentication required.

- but I can always connect from php to AD using
anonymous connection (works great)



Admin user login and password have not been modified.

We are newbie on AD and we're not ruling win2003
administration

Could you give us an idea to go further in ours
investigations ?



Many thanks

Olivier












RE: [ActiveDir] Policies:

2005-04-20 Thread Blair, James

No router ACL or firewall issues...also, no policies @ site level bar
some proxy server settings pertinent to respective sites... 


James

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[Contractor]
Sent: Wednesday, 20 April 2005 11:04 PM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Policies:

If he has a router ACL or firewall(s) between the two networks he is
going to need port 445 opened for tcp and udp for SMB traffic.

Jeremy 

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Almeida Pinto
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 8:51 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Policies:

In the end both NetBIOS and FQDN are resolved to IPs. Although you can
ping the machines does not mean you can access the same machines on
other ports.
Are you using firewalls in between or do those target systems have
firewalls installed, enabled and configured? If yes, check which ports
are allowed

Jorge

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Sent: woensdag 20 april 2005 14:40
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Policies:

 
All do not work...IP, Netbios  FQDN

James

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Sent: Wednesday, 20 April 2005 10:28 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Policies:

Are they Netbios UNC or fqdn DNS UNC paths, does one work and not the
other ?
-Original Message-
From: Blair, James [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 21:19:15
To:ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] Policies:

Hope someone can help. There seems to be a strange policy on our
Workstation or Global User baseline that is effecting users on client
workstations to not be able to: 
 
Access UNC paths outside their subnet even though they are able to ping
and resolve these names through DNS. 
Utilise remote connection software to different subnets. 

I am going through all the settings and comparing RSOP data but as you
are all able to appreciate it is a fairly long and arduous process. One
thing I am able to rule out is that is not service related. 
 
Any help would be be appreciated. 
 
James 
 
 
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Re: [ActiveDir] Policies:

2005-04-20 Thread Tim Hines
What happens when the client attempts to access paths outside of the
network?  I'm assuming there is an error of some sort. Have you tried a
network trace of the client trying to access the path?

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To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 9:04 AM
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Policies:


If he has a router ACL or firewall(s) between the two networks he is
going to need port 445 opened for tcp and udp for SMB traffic.

Jeremy

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Almeida Pinto
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 8:51 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Policies:

In the end both NetBIOS and FQDN are resolved to IPs. Although you can
ping the machines does not mean you can access the same machines on
other ports.
Are you using firewalls in between or do those target systems have
firewalls installed, enabled and configured? If yes, check which ports
are allowed

Jorge

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All do not work...IP, Netbios  FQDN

James

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Are they Netbios UNC or fqdn DNS UNC paths, does one work and not the
other ?
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Subject: [ActiveDir] Policies:

Hope someone can help. There seems to be a strange policy on our
Workstation or Global User baseline that is effecting users on client
workstations to not be able to:

Access UNC paths outside their subnet even though they are able to ping
and resolve these names through DNS.
Utilise remote connection software to different subnets.

I am going through all the settings and comparing RSOP data but as you
are all able to appreciate it is a fairly long and arduous process. One
thing I am able to rule out is that is not service related.

Any help would be be appreciated.

James


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RE: [ActiveDir] Policies:

2005-04-20 Thread beads

Assuming that there is no static(s),
ACL, NAT or PAT issues with a firewall or router IOS keeping IP traffic
from flowing over what I am guessing to be port 80 traffic. ICMP (ping)
means little in the way of connectivity. Just means that a form of traffic
can reach the destination host. Have you done a TRACERT to check the timing?
Also, what port or mixture of ports seem to be blocked? Understand that
ICMP is getting through to the host but if this involves long distances,
it may be a propagation issue or a combination of issues. Lets whittle
some of these unknowns out one at a time till we find a solution.



Brent Eads


[ActiveDir] GC's

2005-04-20 Thread Kern, Tom
Whats the effect of just checking and unchecking the GC box on the NTDS object 
in AD Sites and Services without a reboot?

I don't think it has any affect at all. I thought for a GC to be demoted or 
promoted, you need a reboot in win2k sp4?
Am I wrong?
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[ActiveDir] Administrative rights

2005-04-20 Thread John Parker
Hi all...

I have an XP SP2 on a Win2K AD.
I am trying to install Trend officescan on the system but no matter which way I 
approach the install, the system reports that I must have admin privledges to 
do this... And I do!  I am the domain admin...

Anyone seen anything like this?

Thanks.

John Parker, MCSE
IS Admin.
Senior Technical Specialist
Alpha Display Systems.
Alpha Video




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RE: [ActiveDir] GC's

2005-04-20 Thread Dean Wells
Only sort of wrong, there's a particular interface (NSPI/Named Service
Provider Interface) exposed by GCs that is used by Exchange.  This interface
wasn't exposed on new GCs until they had been rebooted (that has been
addressed for 2K3), the other aspects of the GC take effect according to
something known as the occupancy level.

In the event I've misunderstood and you are actually asking what happens if
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few other clicks but I don't really think that's what you wanted to know.

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Whats the effect of just checking and unchecking the GC box on the NTDS
object in AD Sites and Services without a reboot?

I don't think it has any affect at all. I thought for a GC to be demoted or
promoted, you need a reboot in win2k sp4?
Am I wrong?
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RE: [ActiveDir] GC's

2005-04-20 Thread Michael B. Smith
ears prick up

NSPI startup/shutdown without a reboot was addressed in w2k3? Can you
point me toward any additional information? I had not come across that
factoid.

Thanks.

/ears prick up 

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Only sort of wrong, there's a particular interface (NSPI/Named Service
Provider Interface) exposed by GCs that is used by Exchange.  This
interface wasn't exposed on new GCs until they had been rebooted (that
has been addressed for 2K3), the other aspects of the GC take effect
according to something known as the occupancy level.

In the event I've misunderstood and you are actually asking what happens
if you click-it-on and then straight back off again ... well, that
depends on a few other clicks but I don't really think that's what you
wanted to know.

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Subject: [ActiveDir] GC's

Whats the effect of just checking and unchecking the GC box on the NTDS
object in AD Sites and Services without a reboot?

I don't think it has any affect at all. I thought for a GC to be demoted
or promoted, you need a reboot in win2k sp4?
Am I wrong?
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RE: [ActiveDir] Administrative rights

2005-04-20 Thread Dean Wells
Is the Domain Admins group a member of the local Administrators group?

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Hi all...

I have an XP SP2 on a Win2K AD.
I am trying to install Trend officescan on the system but no matter which
way I approach the install, the system reports that I must have admin
privledges to do this... And I do!  I am the domain admin...

Anyone seen anything like this?

Thanks.

John Parker, MCSE
IS Admin. 
Senior Technical Specialist
Alpha Display Systems. 
Alpha Video 
 



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RE: [ActiveDir] GC's

2005-04-20 Thread Kern, Tom
Actually, I did want to know the other stuff as wel :) Also, what exactly is 
occupancy level.

I had some EA's that saw a issue in AD where there were objects that were 
deleted in AD but were still present in the GC(for months).
They called MS and MS told them this will snowball into a serious issue. 
So,after much chatting, MS recommended for them to rebuild every GC in the 
forest.
They did this by unchecking the GC tab on the ntds object, waiting a while and 
then checking it back. This is in a win2k2p4 forest. Only the root domain is in 
native mode.

So, yeah, I'd like to know exactly what it means when you uncheck(and thats 
all), wait and check again...
Thanks


Dean Wells wrote:
 Only sort of wrong, there's a particular interface (NSPI/Named Service
 Provider Interface) exposed by GCs that is used by Exchange.  This
 interface wasn't exposed on new GCs until they had been rebooted
 (that has been addressed for 2K3), the other aspects of the GC take
 effect according to something known as the occupancy level.
 
 In the event I've misunderstood and you are actually asking what
 happens if you click-it-on and then straight back off again ... well,
 that depends on a few other clicks but I don't really think that's
 what you wanted to know. 

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RE: [ActiveDir] Administrative rights

2005-04-20 Thread John Parker
Yes.

John Parker, MCSE 
IS Admin. 
Senior Technical Specialist 
Alpha Display Systems. 
Alpha Video 
7711 Computer Ave. 
Edina, MN. 55435 

952-896-9898 Local 
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Is the Domain Admins group a member of the local Administrators group?

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Hi all...

I have an XP SP2 on a Win2K AD.
I am trying to install Trend officescan on the system but no matter which
way I approach the install, the system reports that I must have admin
privledges to do this... And I do!  I am the domain admin...

Anyone seen anything like this?

Thanks.

John Parker, MCSE
IS Admin. 
Senior Technical Specialist
Alpha Display Systems. 
Alpha Video 
 



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RE: [ActiveDir] Administrative rights

2005-04-20 Thread Dean Wells
What does whoami /groups yield?
Does it make a difference if you logon as the local administrator?
Got any custom/strange AD policies in force?
Does it work on other computers using the same accounts?

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Yes.

John Parker, MCSE
IS Admin. 
Senior Technical Specialist
Alpha Display Systems. 
Alpha Video
7711 Computer Ave. 
Edina, MN. 55435 

952-896-9898 Local
800-388-0008 Watts
952-896-9899 Fax
612-804-8769 Cell
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Is the Domain Admins group a member of the local Administrators group?

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Subject: [ActiveDir] Administrative rights

Hi all...

I have an XP SP2 on a Win2K AD.
I am trying to install Trend officescan on the system but no matter which
way I approach the install, the system reports that I must have admin
privledges to do this... And I do!  I am the domain admin...

Anyone seen anything like this?

Thanks.

John Parker, MCSE
IS Admin. 
Senior Technical Specialist
Alpha Display Systems. 
Alpha Video 
 



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RE: [ActiveDir] Administrative rights

2005-04-20 Thread jpsalemi
Hi John..

I've seen some very odd behavior sometimes as you describe, where even as
DA, and being in the local group, I've had to do a runas, and specify the
local user, Administrator, to install something.

Also, if it's an MSI, you can set it to always run at elevated privliges
with policy, which might work.

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Subject: [ActiveDir] Administrative rights

Hi all...

I have an XP SP2 on a Win2K AD.
I am trying to install Trend officescan on the system but no matter which
way I approach the install, the system reports that I must have admin
privledges to do this... And I do!  I am the domain admin...

Anyone seen anything like this?

Thanks.

John Parker, MCSE
IS Admin.
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Alpha Display Systems.
Alpha Video




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RE: [ActiveDir] GC's

2005-04-20 Thread Dean Wells
It is indeed dynamically enabled though I've not put that to the test.  I
believe it was first fixed in Windows 2000 SP3, review -

http://support.microsoft.com/?id=305596

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ears prick up

NSPI startup/shutdown without a reboot was addressed in w2k3? Can you point
me toward any additional information? I had not come across that factoid.

Thanks.

/ears prick up 

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Only sort of wrong, there's a particular interface (NSPI/Named Service
Provider Interface) exposed by GCs that is used by Exchange.  This interface
wasn't exposed on new GCs until they had been rebooted (that has been
addressed for 2K3), the other aspects of the GC take effect according to
something known as the occupancy level.

In the event I've misunderstood and you are actually asking what happens if
you click-it-on and then straight back off again ... well, that depends on a
few other clicks but I don't really think that's what you wanted to know.

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Dean Wells
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Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 11:29 AM
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Subject: [ActiveDir] GC's

Whats the effect of just checking and unchecking the GC box on the NTDS
object in AD Sites and Services without a reboot?

I don't think it has any affect at all. I thought for a GC to be demoted or
promoted, you need a reboot in win2k sp4?
Am I wrong?
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Re: [ActiveDir] Administrative rights

2005-04-20 Thread beads

Went through the same thing but only
with laptops, desktops had no problem. Go figure. Check to make sure that
you have connections available to the client machine and/or log off but
leave the machine able to log on. Try doing the remote install that way.
The other way is to use the GPO script option in Trend and insert the string
into the logon script. That will make the machine contact ControlManager
a bit more manually.



Brent Eads
Employee Technology Solutions, Inc.

Office: (312) 762-9224

RE: [ActiveDir] GC's

2005-04-20 Thread Dean Wells
Occupancy level is an integer (controlled via the DC's registry) that
represents how much of the total-partial foreign domain content a newly
designated GC must have sourced before announcing itself as ready.  Early
builds of Windows 2000 defaulted to 3 I believe, this was later adjusted to
6 where the 3 equates to the insane a complete-partial replica of all
foreign domains in _same site_ and the 6 equates to the more heart-warming
a complete-partial replica of all foreign domains.

Unchecking and rechecking the GC box only has an impact if the uncheck
action replicated out discreetly and reached the DC to whom it applied (keep
in mind that when you uncheck the box you are merely originating a write
against a replica of the config. NC which may or may not [most likely not]
be the DC to whom the change applies).  If the box is rechecked before it
reached that owning DC, it is impossible to state with any certainty as to
whether the target DC will begin the demotion process since it's dependent
upon the replication topology and its inherent end-to-end latency.

PS - With all due respect to the support technician that instructed you to
demote each GC in turn, wait a while and re-promote ... that wouldn't
guarantee a working end-result, there's a chance it will work and an equal
chance that it will fail unless the other steps were taken to contrive how
the GCs re-sourced their content.

--
Dean Wells
MSEtechnology
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kern, Tom
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 11:49 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] GC's

Actually, I did want to know the other stuff as wel :) Also, what exactly is
occupancy level.

I had some EA's that saw a issue in AD where there were objects that were
deleted in AD but were still present in the GC(for months).
They called MS and MS told them this will snowball into a serious issue.
So,after much chatting, MS recommended for them to rebuild every GC in the
forest.
They did this by unchecking the GC tab on the ntds object, waiting a while
and then checking it back. This is in a win2k2p4 forest. Only the root
domain is in native mode.

So, yeah, I'd like to know exactly what it means when you uncheck(and thats
all), wait and check again...
Thanks


Dean Wells wrote:
 Only sort of wrong, there's a particular interface (NSPI/Named Service 
 Provider Interface) exposed by GCs that is used by Exchange.  This 
 interface wasn't exposed on new GCs until they had been rebooted (that 
 has been addressed for 2K3), the other aspects of the GC take effect 
 according to something known as the occupancy level.
 
 In the event I've misunderstood and you are actually asking what 
 happens if you click-it-on and then straight back off again ... well, 
 that depends on a few other clicks but I don't really think that's 
 what you wanted to know.

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RE: [ActiveDir] Restricting sensitive information

2005-04-20 Thread Perdue David J Contr InDyne/Enterprise IT



You could encrypt the files/folders and add in the user 
accounts of the folks who need access as well as one or two admins to help 
maintain it. Depending on what your policy has setup for a recovery agent, 
this would prevent individuals from accessing the files. They could still 
rename/delete/take ownership, but they couldn't access the 
data.

Dave
//SIGNED//
David J. 
Perdue



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter 
JessopSent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 04:44 AMTo: 
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: Re: [ActiveDir] Restricting 
sensitive information
Original Message:We have a problem in discussion where we 
need to restrict sensitive HIPAA information to a very select few employees in 
the US and only one or two people overseas. The problem is, we have about 
10-15 domain admins worldwide in our single domain, and this is too many people 
to have access to the HIPAA data. Rather than take domain admin 
priviledges away, whereby breaking their ability to promote domain controllers, 
etc - what's an easy way to have a share on a file server restricted to only a 
select few of the domain admins? We were thinking of maybe adding a 2nd 
domain just for the server with this share on it. Then only enterprise 
admins would have access to that other domain, so only they could see that 
share. Is there an alternative to something this drastic? ReplyWhy not simply install 
the server out of the domain completely and use it's local 
accounts?RegardsPeter Jessop


RE: [ActiveDir] GC's

2005-04-20 Thread Kern, Tom
I never talked to the guy from MS, so I don't know how that conversation went, 
though it did seem a little like reboot to fix the problem type solution.

Which brings me to another question- under what circumstances would a deleted 
object still show up as a valid object in GC's?

That was the problem they were having. it was claimed that OU's were deleted 
and that was never reflected in the GC, among other objects.
The only thing i can think of, is some admin said they were using movetree to 
move objects between domains.
I've never used movetree, but i'm aware of its limitations as to global and 
local groups as well that it can't move computer objects. I don't know if it 
spits out an error when you try these things, but that could've caused the 
issues.

thanks

-Original Message-
From: Dean Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 12:26 PM
To: Send - AD mailing list
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] GC's


Occupancy level is an integer (controlled via the DC's registry) that
represents how much of the total-partial foreign domain content a newly
designated GC must have sourced before announcing itself as ready.  Early
builds of Windows 2000 defaulted to 3 I believe, this was later adjusted to
6 where the 3 equates to the insane a complete-partial replica of all
foreign domains in _same site_ and the 6 equates to the more heart-warming
a complete-partial replica of all foreign domains.

Unchecking and rechecking the GC box only has an impact if the uncheck
action replicated out discreetly and reached the DC to whom it applied (keep
in mind that when you uncheck the box you are merely originating a write
against a replica of the config. NC which may or may not [most likely not]
be the DC to whom the change applies).  If the box is rechecked before it
reached that owning DC, it is impossible to state with any certainty as to
whether the target DC will begin the demotion process since it's dependent
upon the replication topology and its inherent end-to-end latency.

PS - With all due respect to the support technician that instructed you to
demote each GC in turn, wait a while and re-promote ... that wouldn't
guarantee a working end-result, there's a chance it will work and an equal
chance that it will fail unless the other steps were taken to contrive how
the GCs re-sourced their content.

--
Dean Wells
MSEtechnology
* Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://msetechnology.com


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kern, Tom
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 11:49 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] GC's

Actually, I did want to know the other stuff as wel :) Also, what exactly is
occupancy level.

I had some EA's that saw a issue in AD where there were objects that were
deleted in AD but were still present in the GC(for months).
They called MS and MS told them this will snowball into a serious issue.
So,after much chatting, MS recommended for them to rebuild every GC in the
forest.
They did this by unchecking the GC tab on the ntds object, waiting a while
and then checking it back. This is in a win2k2p4 forest. Only the root
domain is in native mode.

So, yeah, I'd like to know exactly what it means when you uncheck(and thats
all), wait and check again...
Thanks


Dean Wells wrote:
 Only sort of wrong, there's a particular interface (NSPI/Named Service 
 Provider Interface) exposed by GCs that is used by Exchange.  This 
 interface wasn't exposed on new GCs until they had been rebooted (that 
 has been addressed for 2K3), the other aspects of the GC take effect 
 according to something known as the occupancy level.
 
 In the event I've misunderstood and you are actually asking what 
 happens if you click-it-on and then straight back off again ... well, 
 that depends on a few other clicks but I don't really think that's 
 what you wanted to know.

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RE: [ActiveDir] GC's

2005-04-20 Thread Nicolas Blank
Eric,Joe,Al,Carlos,Guido Question for you guys and the wider audience.
What happens EXACTLY in Win2k on a DC(s) when the native mode switch is
pushed, and what are the ramifications of changing the attribute back to
reflect mixed mode one this has happened?

I have a customer with a nervous disposition that doesn't believe me when I
say there ain't no way back that's supported without doing a AD DR.

Background is a business critical SNA application that HAS to live on a DC.
MS is cool about switching to native, but customer is REALLY nervous.


Any insight will be appreciated.

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[ActiveDir] Native Mode Switch

2005-04-20 Thread Nicolas Blank
Sorry, hijacked the topic by mistake. Appologies.
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nicolas Blank
Sent: 20 April 2005 07:21 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] GC's

Eric,Joe,Al,Carlos,Guido Question for you guys and the wider audience.
What happens EXACTLY in Win2k on a DC(s) when the native mode switch is
pushed, and what are the ramifications of changing the attribute back to
reflect mixed mode one this has happened?

I have a customer with a nervous disposition that doesn't believe me when I
say there ain't no way back that's supported without doing a AD DR.

Background is a business critical SNA application that HAS to live on a DC.
MS is cool about switching to native, but customer is REALLY nervous.


Any insight will be appreciated.

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RE: [ActiveDir] GC's

2005-04-20 Thread Michael B. Smith
By golly you're right! (As expected.) Thanks.

A member of the Exchange team referred me to this KB

http://support.microsoft.com/?id=324941

I've also asked for KB 304403 to be corrected.

Thanks again,
M 

//me runs off to change the text in a chapter...

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean Wells
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 12:11 PM
To: Send - AD mailing list
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] GC's

It is indeed dynamically enabled though I've not put that to the test.
I believe it was first fixed in Windows 2000 SP3, review -

http://support.microsoft.com/?id=305596

--
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael B.
Smith
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 11:47 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] GC's

ears prick up

NSPI startup/shutdown without a reboot was addressed in w2k3? Can you
point me toward any additional information? I had not come across that
factoid.

Thanks.

/ears prick up 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean Wells
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 11:37 AM
To: Send - AD mailing list
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] GC's

Only sort of wrong, there's a particular interface (NSPI/Named Service
Provider Interface) exposed by GCs that is used by Exchange.  This
interface wasn't exposed on new GCs until they had been rebooted (that
has been addressed for 2K3), the other aspects of the GC take effect
according to something known as the occupancy level.

In the event I've misunderstood and you are actually asking what happens
if you click-it-on and then straight back off again ... well, that
depends on a few other clicks but I don't really think that's what you
wanted to know.

--

Dean Wells
MSEtechnology
* Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://msetechnology.com


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kern, Tom
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 11:29 AM
To: ActiveDir (E-mail)
Subject: [ActiveDir] GC's

Whats the effect of just checking and unchecking the GC box on the NTDS
object in AD Sites and Services without a reboot?

I don't think it has any affect at all. I thought for a GC to be demoted
or promoted, you need a reboot in win2k sp4?
Am I wrong?
thanks
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RE: [ActiveDir] Restricting sensitive information

2005-04-20 Thread Carerros, Charles



Can 
you use a local administrator account of a machine to unencrypt files? I 
do it all the time on laptops that we have deployed when they bring them in for 
service. I'm not sure how well this works on servers, but if it does then 
this might not be such a great option.

Charlie

  -Original Message-From: Perdue David J Contr 
  InDyne/Enterprise IT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 
  Wednesday, April 20, 2005 11:34 AMTo: 
  ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Restricting 
  sensitive information
  You could encrypt the files/folders and add in the user 
  accounts of the folks who need access as well as one or two admins to help 
  maintain it. Depending on what your policy has setup for a recovery 
  agent, this would prevent individuals from accessing the files. They 
  could still rename/delete/take ownership, but they couldn't access the 
  data.
  
  Dave
  //SIGNED//
  David J. 
  Perdue
  
  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter 
  JessopSent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 04:44 AMTo: 
  ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: Re: [ActiveDir] Restricting 
  sensitive information
  Original Message:We have a problem in discussion where we 
  need to restrict sensitive HIPAA information to a very select few employees in 
  the US and only one or two people overseas. The problem is, we have 
  about 10-15 domain admins worldwide in our single domain, and this is too many 
  people to have access to the HIPAA data. Rather than take domain admin 
  priviledges away, whereby breaking their ability to promote domain 
  controllers, etc - what's an easy way to have a share on a file server 
  restricted to only a select few of the domain admins? We were thinking 
  of maybe adding a 2nd domain just for the server with this share on it. 
  Then only enterprise admins would have access to that other domain, so only 
  they could see that share. Is there an alternative to something this 
  drastic? ReplyWhy not simply install 
  the server out of the domain completely and use it's local 
  accounts?RegardsPeter Jessop


RE: [ActiveDir] GC's

2005-04-20 Thread Jorge de Almeida Pinto
When you need to rebuild all GCs you'll have to be carefull how you do that.
If you rebuild GCs one by one the problem (wrong data like non-existing
objects) most likely will not be solved. This is true if a GC uses another
GC as inbound replication partner. I don't know what your situation is, but
if the wrong data is only in the GCs demoting all GCs at once is the best
way and promoting again. In a large environment this sounds like hell on
earth. If the wrong data is only in a certain domain partition you could
remove that NC from the GCs in the other domains using REPADMIN. With the
latter the GC keeps advertising itself while the NC is being removed and
later on rebuild. Also with this one you need to be sure which replication
partner is chosen

If you can provide more details, maybe I can give you a more helpfull answer

Jorge

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Sent: 4/20/2005 5:48 PM
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] GC's

Actually, I did want to know the other stuff as wel :) Also, what
exactly is occupancy level.

I had some EA's that saw a issue in AD where there were objects that
were deleted in AD but were still present in the GC(for months).
They called MS and MS told them this will snowball into a serious issue.
So,after much chatting, MS recommended for them to rebuild every GC in
the forest.
They did this by unchecking the GC tab on the ntds object, waiting a
while and then checking it back. This is in a win2k2p4 forest. Only the
root domain is in native mode.

So, yeah, I'd like to know exactly what it means when you uncheck(and
thats all), wait and check again...
Thanks


Dean Wells wrote:
 Only sort of wrong, there's a particular interface (NSPI/Named Service
 Provider Interface) exposed by GCs that is used by Exchange.  This
 interface wasn't exposed on new GCs until they had been rebooted
 (that has been addressed for 2K3), the other aspects of the GC take
 effect according to something known as the occupancy level.
 
 In the event I've misunderstood and you are actually asking what
 happens if you click-it-on and then straight back off again ... well,
 that depends on a few other clicks but I don't really think that's
 what you wanted to know. 

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RE: [ActiveDir] GC's

2005-04-20 Thread Kern, Tom
 it will fail unless the other steps were taken to contrive how
the GCs re-sourced their content.-


what other steps?
repadmin/repmon?

thanks



-Original Message-
From: Dean Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 12:26 PM
To: Send - AD mailing list
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] GC's


Occupancy level is an integer (controlled via the DC's registry) that
represents how much of the total-partial foreign domain content a newly
designated GC must have sourced before announcing itself as ready.  Early
builds of Windows 2000 defaulted to 3 I believe, this was later adjusted to
6 where the 3 equates to the insane a complete-partial replica of all
foreign domains in _same site_ and the 6 equates to the more heart-warming
a complete-partial replica of all foreign domains.

Unchecking and rechecking the GC box only has an impact if the uncheck
action replicated out discreetly and reached the DC to whom it applied (keep
in mind that when you uncheck the box you are merely originating a write
against a replica of the config. NC which may or may not [most likely not]
be the DC to whom the change applies).  If the box is rechecked before it
reached that owning DC, it is impossible to state with any certainty as to
whether the target DC will begin the demotion process since it's dependent
upon the replication topology and its inherent end-to-end latency.

PS - With all due respect to the support technician that instructed you to
demote each GC in turn, wait a while and re-promote ... that wouldn't
guarantee a working end-result, there's a chance it will work and an equal
chance that it will fail unless the other steps were taken to contrive how
the GCs re-sourced their content.

--
Dean Wells
MSEtechnology
* Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://msetechnology.com


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kern, Tom
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 11:49 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] GC's

Actually, I did want to know the other stuff as wel :) Also, what exactly is
occupancy level.

I had some EA's that saw a issue in AD where there were objects that were
deleted in AD but were still present in the GC(for months).
They called MS and MS told them this will snowball into a serious issue.
So,after much chatting, MS recommended for them to rebuild every GC in the
forest.
They did this by unchecking the GC tab on the ntds object, waiting a while
and then checking it back. This is in a win2k2p4 forest. Only the root
domain is in native mode.

So, yeah, I'd like to know exactly what it means when you uncheck(and thats
all), wait and check again...
Thanks


Dean Wells wrote:
 Only sort of wrong, there's a particular interface (NSPI/Named Service 
 Provider Interface) exposed by GCs that is used by Exchange.  This 
 interface wasn't exposed on new GCs until they had been rebooted (that 
 has been addressed for 2K3), the other aspects of the GC take effect 
 according to something known as the occupancy level.
 
 In the event I've misunderstood and you are actually asking what 
 happens if you click-it-on and then straight back off again ... well, 
 that depends on a few other clicks but I don't really think that's 
 what you wanted to know.

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RE: [ActiveDir] (Slightly OT) GC's

2005-04-20 Thread David Cliffe
 
Curious to know how useful  /removelingeringobjects  would be if this
were 2003 forest.  Could I run that on every GC against a reliable
source in the other NCs to try and clear up lingerers?  Also a fairly
lengthy prospect, but would you consider it better than the fully
removing every GC at once option?

-DaveC
Reuters CIO Infrastructure

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jorge de
Almeida Pinto
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 1:48 PM
To: 'Kern, Tom '; '[EMAIL PROTECTED] ';
'ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org '
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] GC's

When you need to rebuild all GCs you'll have to be carefull how you do
that.
If you rebuild GCs one by one the problem (wrong data like non-existing
objects) most likely will not be solved. This is true if a GC uses
another GC as inbound replication partner. I don't know what your
situation is, but if the wrong data is only in the GCs demoting all GCs
at once is the best way and promoting again. In a large environment
this sounds like hell on earth. If the wrong data is only in a
certain domain partition you could remove that NC from the GCs in the
other domains using REPADMIN. With the latter the GC keeps advertising
itself while the NC is being removed and later on rebuild. Also with
this one you need to be sure which replication partner is chosen

If you can provide more details, maybe I can give you a more helpfull
answer

Jorge

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Sent: 4/20/2005 5:48 PM
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] GC's

Actually, I did want to know the other stuff as wel :) Also, what
exactly is occupancy level.

I had some EA's that saw a issue in AD where there were objects that
were deleted in AD but were still present in the GC(for months).
They called MS and MS told them this will snowball into a serious issue.
So,after much chatting, MS recommended for them to rebuild every GC in
the forest.
They did this by unchecking the GC tab on the ntds object, waiting a
while and then checking it back. This is in a win2k2p4 forest. Only the
root domain is in native mode.

So, yeah, I'd like to know exactly what it means when you uncheck(and
thats all), wait and check again...
Thanks


Dean Wells wrote:
 Only sort of wrong, there's a particular interface (NSPI/Named Service

 Provider Interface) exposed by GCs that is used by Exchange.  This 
 interface wasn't exposed on new GCs until they had been rebooted (that

 has been addressed for 2K3), the other aspects of the GC take effect 
 according to something known as the occupancy level.
 
 In the event I've misunderstood and you are actually asking what 
 happens if you click-it-on and then straight back off again ... well, 
 that depends on a few other clicks but I don't really think that's 
 what you wanted to know.

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RE: [ActiveDir] GC's

2005-04-20 Thread Eric Fleischman
I IM'd with Dean about this and found the DCR where we took this. Then
confirmed the checkin...SP3 is the first SP that adds it.



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By golly you're right! (As expected.) Thanks.

A member of the Exchange team referred me to this KB

http://support.microsoft.com/?id=324941

I've also asked for KB 304403 to be corrected.

Thanks again,
M 

//me runs off to change the text in a chapter...

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It is indeed dynamically enabled though I've not put that to the test.
I believe it was first fixed in Windows 2000 SP3, review -

http://support.microsoft.com/?id=305596

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ears prick up

NSPI startup/shutdown without a reboot was addressed in w2k3? Can you
point me toward any additional information? I had not come across that
factoid.

Thanks.

/ears prick up 

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Only sort of wrong, there's a particular interface (NSPI/Named Service
Provider Interface) exposed by GCs that is used by Exchange.  This
interface wasn't exposed on new GCs until they had been rebooted (that
has been addressed for 2K3), the other aspects of the GC take effect
according to something known as the occupancy level.

In the event I've misunderstood and you are actually asking what happens
if you click-it-on and then straight back off again ... well, that
depends on a few other clicks but I don't really think that's what you
wanted to know.

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Whats the effect of just checking and unchecking the GC box on the NTDS
object in AD Sites and Services without a reboot?

I don't think it has any affect at all. I thought for a GC to be demoted
or promoted, you need a reboot in win2k sp4?
Am I wrong?
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RE: [ActiveDir] GC's

2005-04-20 Thread Dean Wells
My thanks to Jorge for saving me the typing :)

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 it will fail unless the other steps were taken to contrive how the GCs
re-sourced their content.-


what other steps?
repadmin/repmon?

thanks



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Occupancy level is an integer (controlled via the DC's registry) that
represents how much of the total-partial foreign domain content a newly
designated GC must have sourced before announcing itself as ready.  Early
builds of Windows 2000 defaulted to 3 I believe, this was later adjusted to
6 where the 3 equates to the insane a complete-partial replica of all
foreign domains in _same site_ and the 6 equates to the more heart-warming
a complete-partial replica of all foreign domains.

Unchecking and rechecking the GC box only has an impact if the uncheck
action replicated out discreetly and reached the DC to whom it applied (keep
in mind that when you uncheck the box you are merely originating a write
against a replica of the config. NC which may or may not [most likely not]
be the DC to whom the change applies).  If the box is rechecked before it
reached that owning DC, it is impossible to state with any certainty as to
whether the target DC will begin the demotion process since it's dependent
upon the replication topology and its inherent end-to-end latency.

PS - With all due respect to the support technician that instructed you to
demote each GC in turn, wait a while and re-promote ... that wouldn't
guarantee a working end-result, there's a chance it will work and an equal
chance that it will fail unless the other steps were taken to contrive how
the GCs re-sourced their content.

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Actually, I did want to know the other stuff as wel :) Also, what exactly is
occupancy level.

I had some EA's that saw a issue in AD where there were objects that were
deleted in AD but were still present in the GC(for months).
They called MS and MS told them this will snowball into a serious issue.
So,after much chatting, MS recommended for them to rebuild every GC in the
forest.
They did this by unchecking the GC tab on the ntds object, waiting a while
and then checking it back. This is in a win2k2p4 forest. Only the root
domain is in native mode.

So, yeah, I'd like to know exactly what it means when you uncheck(and thats
all), wait and check again...
Thanks


Dean Wells wrote:
 Only sort of wrong, there's a particular interface (NSPI/Named Service 
 Provider Interface) exposed by GCs that is used by Exchange.  This 
 interface wasn't exposed on new GCs until they had been rebooted (that 
 has been addressed for 2K3), the other aspects of the GC take effect 
 according to something known as the occupancy level.
 
 In the event I've misunderstood and you are actually asking what 
 happens if you click-it-on and then straight back off again ... well, 
 that depends on a few other clicks but I don't really think that's 
 what you wanted to know.

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RE: [ActiveDir] (Slightly OT) GC's

2005-04-20 Thread Dean Wells
Depends what caused such a consistency-failure in the first place,
/removelingeringobjects does exactly as its wording implies and little more.
Last time I looked it didn't check for lingering _attributes_ or other
plausible (though hard to manufacture) inconsistencies such as temporal
issues caused by DCs being thrown back in time using virtualization or SANs
or ...

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Curious to know how useful  /removelingeringobjects  would be if this were
2003 forest.  Could I run that on every GC against a reliable source in the
other NCs to try and clear up lingerers?  Also a fairly lengthy prospect,
but would you consider it better than the fully removing every GC at once
option?

-DaveC
Reuters CIO Infrastructure

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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] GC's

When you need to rebuild all GCs you'll have to be carefull how you do that.
If you rebuild GCs one by one the problem (wrong data like non-existing
objects) most likely will not be solved. This is true if a GC uses another
GC as inbound replication partner. I don't know what your situation is, but
if the wrong data is only in the GCs demoting all GCs at once is the best
way and promoting again. In a large environment this sounds like hell on
earth. If the wrong data is only in a certain domain partition you could
remove that NC from the GCs in the other domains using REPADMIN. With the
latter the GC keeps advertising itself while the NC is being removed and
later on rebuild. Also with this one you need to be sure which replication
partner is chosen

If you can provide more details, maybe I can give you a more helpfull answer

Jorge

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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] GC's

Actually, I did want to know the other stuff as wel :) Also, what exactly is
occupancy level.

I had some EA's that saw a issue in AD where there were objects that were
deleted in AD but were still present in the GC(for months).
They called MS and MS told them this will snowball into a serious issue.
So,after much chatting, MS recommended for them to rebuild every GC in the
forest.
They did this by unchecking the GC tab on the ntds object, waiting a while
and then checking it back. This is in a win2k2p4 forest. Only the root
domain is in native mode.

So, yeah, I'd like to know exactly what it means when you uncheck(and thats
all), wait and check again...
Thanks


Dean Wells wrote:
 Only sort of wrong, there's a particular interface (NSPI/Named Service

 Provider Interface) exposed by GCs that is used by Exchange.  This 
 interface wasn't exposed on new GCs until they had been rebooted (that

 has been addressed for 2K3), the other aspects of the GC take effect 
 according to something known as the occupancy level.
 
 In the event I've misunderstood and you are actually asking what 
 happens if you click-it-on and then straight back off again ... well, 
 that depends on a few other clicks but I don't really think that's 
 what you wanted to know.

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RE: [ActiveDir] (Slightly OT) GC's

2005-04-20 Thread Jorge de Almeida Pinto
If I remember correctly that option also works in W2K when your using the
W2K3 REPADMIN.
However this only works against DCs and not GCs

Jorge

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Curious to know how useful  /removelingeringobjects  would be if this
were 2003 forest.  Could I run that on every GC against a reliable
source in the other NCs to try and clear up lingerers?  Also a fairly
lengthy prospect, but would you consider it better than the fully
removing every GC at once option?

-DaveC
Reuters CIO Infrastructure

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Almeida Pinto
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'ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org '
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] GC's

When you need to rebuild all GCs you'll have to be carefull how you do
that.
If you rebuild GCs one by one the problem (wrong data like non-existing
objects) most likely will not be solved. This is true if a GC uses
another GC as inbound replication partner. I don't know what your
situation is, but if the wrong data is only in the GCs demoting all GCs
at once is the best way and promoting again. In a large environment
this sounds like hell on earth. If the wrong data is only in a
certain domain partition you could remove that NC from the GCs in the
other domains using REPADMIN. With the latter the GC keeps advertising
itself while the NC is being removed and later on rebuild. Also with
this one you need to be sure which replication partner is chosen

If you can provide more details, maybe I can give you a more helpfull
answer

Jorge

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Sent: 4/20/2005 5:48 PM
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] GC's

Actually, I did want to know the other stuff as wel :) Also, what
exactly is occupancy level.

I had some EA's that saw a issue in AD where there were objects that
were deleted in AD but were still present in the GC(for months).
They called MS and MS told them this will snowball into a serious issue.
So,after much chatting, MS recommended for them to rebuild every GC in
the forest.
They did this by unchecking the GC tab on the ntds object, waiting a
while and then checking it back. This is in a win2k2p4 forest. Only the
root domain is in native mode.

So, yeah, I'd like to know exactly what it means when you uncheck(and
thats all), wait and check again...
Thanks


Dean Wells wrote:
 Only sort of wrong, there's a particular interface (NSPI/Named Service

 Provider Interface) exposed by GCs that is used by Exchange.  This 
 interface wasn't exposed on new GCs until they had been rebooted (that

 has been addressed for 2K3), the other aspects of the GC take effect 
 according to something known as the occupancy level.
 
 In the event I've misunderstood and you are actually asking what 
 happens if you click-it-on and then straight back off again ... well, 
 that depends on a few other clicks but I don't really think that's 
 what you wanted to know.

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RE: [ActiveDir] Native Mode Switch

2005-04-20 Thread Jorge de Almeida Pinto
When you convert the domain to native mode the attribute nTMixedDomain on
the domain NC head of the replica where the change is made is changed from 1
to 0. This change replicates out to all other replicas.
There is no way you can change this attribute back without doing a disaster
recovery for the domain.
The main thing here is that you don't have legacy DCs in the domain
anymore!!!

I can think of the following solutions to test the change of the mode
switch:
* Create a copy of the particular machine with the SNA application and test
that in a test environment
* Create a full backup of the particular DC with the SNA app, disable
OUTBOUND replication for that DC (REPADMIN) and change the mode switch. If
something goes wrong restore the DC and enable replication again (the latter
is needed as the restored DC will receive the disabled state from the other
DCs.

Jorge
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Subject: [ActiveDir] Native Mode Switch

Sorry, hijacked the topic by mistake. Appologies.
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Eric,Joe,Al,Carlos,Guido Question for you guys and the wider audience.
What happens EXACTLY in Win2k on a DC(s) when the native mode switch is
pushed, and what are the ramifications of changing the attribute back to
reflect mixed mode one this has happened?

I have a customer with a nervous disposition that doesn't believe me
when I
say there ain't no way back that's supported without doing a AD DR.

Background is a business critical SNA application that HAS to live on a
DC.
MS is cool about switching to native, but customer is REALLY nervous.


Any insight will be appreciated.

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RE: [ActiveDir] AD access strong authentication required

2005-04-20 Thread Teverovsky, Guy








Olivier,



In order to make DC
allow unsigned LDAP the following settings should be configured in the GPO
linked to Domain Controllers OU (this by default is Default
Domain Controllers Policy):

-
The Domain controller: LDAP server signing
requirements = None

-
The Network security: LDAP client signing
requirements = Negotiate

(both located under
Computer Configuration\Windows Settings\Security Settings\Local
Policies\Security Options)

I might also need to
reboot the DCs (do not remember that part)



If you are really adventurous
and want to keep those settings in production, you would want to at least
minimize the impact by forcing all Windows hosts in your AD to sign LDAP
traffic when acting as clients (querying the DCs). This would be done by
setting (at a GPO linked at domain level (by default Default Domain
Policy)):

-
The Network security: LDAP client signing
requirements = Negotiate



This last setting is
not required for your testing. If you eventually go the SSL route, you wont
need it anyway.



To make sure you can
search with simple binds, from the RH box, try running something like:

ldapsearch h dc_hostname -x -D cn=Administrator,dc=domain,dc=com
W b cn=users,dc=domain,dc=com objectcategory=*
dn



-b  - search base

-D  the DN of
the account you are using to authenticate

-x  use simple
bind

-h  the LDAP
server host name

-W  will prompt
you for the password



HTH,



Guy













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Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005
4:15 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD access
strong authentication required





Guy, you wrote :



If
you want to enable simple binds, set:

-
The Domain controller: LDAP server signing
requirements = None

-
The Network security: LDAP client signing
requirements = Negotiate



Also
set in Default Domain GPO:

The Network security: LDAP client signing requirements = Negotiate (to make sure that all windows clients do not try
simple binds)





We find the two first settings but not the
last (Also set in Default Domain GPO). We work on french
version of win 2003, and our knowledge of 2003 is very poor. Could you tell me
how to set this, we can't find the right path for this

Many thanks

Olivier















De:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] De la part de Olivier Marie
Envoyé: lundi 18 avril 2005
16:20
À:
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Objet: RE: [ActiveDir] AD
access strong authentication required





Our AD isn't win2000
upgraded to 2003 (it's a new one).

Sorry for my but
I can always connect from php to AD using anonymous connection (works
great) Effectively, I can just bind to rootDSE.



We will try to use SSL,
but for our tests we will perhaps try in a first time to modify the settings
for Ldap settings.





Many thanks for your
answer, I will tell you if we success or not !

Olivier



















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Envoyé: lundi 18 avril 2005
15:41
À: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Objet: RE: [ActiveDir] AD
access strong authentication required





By default anonymous LDAP operations are
disabled in W2K3 AD (you are only allowed to perform base search on RootDSE).



First the warning: enabling anonymous
LDAP operations and/or disabling LDAP singing weakens the security of your AD
and opens some nasty holes that can be exploited by bad people.



The best option would be performing an
LDAP over SSL bind to DC if you have SSL enabled on the DCs. If not then you
can tackle the problem by:

1) If you do not want to send the passwords over
the wire, you can allow anonymous binds/searches to a strictly defined set of
attributes (assuming that those do not contain sensitive data). More details
here: shameless plug http://www.petri.co.il/anonymous_ldap_operations_in_windows_2003_ad.htm
/shameless plug



2) If you still want to pull the data after
successful authentication (youll need to perform authenticated simple
bind from within PHP code). There are 2 settings that control the LDAP signing
(both located under Computer Configuration\Windows Settings\Security
Settings\Local Policies\Security Options of the Default Domain Controllers
GPO):

a. Domain Controller: LDAP server signing
requirement

b. Network security: LDAP client signing
requirement (default = undefined)

If
you want to enable simple binds, set:

- The Domain controller: LDAP
server signing requirements =
None

- The Network security: LDAP
client signing requirements =
Negotiate

Also
set in Default Domain GPO:

The Network security: LDAP client signing requirements = Negotiate (to make sure that all windows clients do not try
simple binds)

Now
this option is VERY nasty as you are opening a door to clear text passwords
traveling across your network and letting anyone with a sniffer grab passwords
from the wire. I would try to avoid this one at all cost.



Btw, regarding but
I can always connect from php to AD 

RE: [ActiveDir] Native Mode Switch

2005-04-20 Thread Nicolas Blank
Thanks for the answer. This is understood, however, what are the
implications of manually re-writing the nTMixedDomain value back to 1?
Also, what actions does a DC take once the value change is efected that
makes the cange non-reversible?

-Original Message-
From: Jorge de Almeida Pinto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 20 April 2005 08:17 PM
To: 'Nicolas Blank '; '[EMAIL PROTECTED] ';
'ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org '
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Native Mode Switch

When you convert the domain to native mode the attribute nTMixedDomain on
the domain NC head of the replica where the change is made is changed from 1
to 0. This change replicates out to all other replicas.
There is no way you can change this attribute back without doing a disaster
recovery for the domain.
The main thing here is that you don't have legacy DCs in the domain
anymore!!!

I can think of the following solutions to test the change of the mode
switch:
* Create a copy of the particular machine with the SNA application and test
that in a test environment
* Create a full backup of the particular DC with the SNA app, disable
OUTBOUND replication for that DC (REPADMIN) and change the mode switch. If
something goes wrong restore the DC and enable replication again (the latter
is needed as the restored DC will receive the disabled state from the other
DCs.

Jorge
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Sent: 4/20/2005 7:30 PM
Subject: [ActiveDir] Native Mode Switch

Sorry, hijacked the topic by mistake. Appologies.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nicolas Blank
Sent: 20 April 2005 07:21 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] GC's

Eric,Joe,Al,Carlos,Guido Question for you guys and the wider audience.
What happens EXACTLY in Win2k on a DC(s) when the native mode switch is
pushed, and what are the ramifications of changing the attribute back to
reflect mixed mode one this has happened?

I have a customer with a nervous disposition that doesn't believe me when I
say there ain't no way back that's supported without doing a AD DR.

Background is a business critical SNA application that HAS to live on a DC.
MS is cool about switching to native, but customer is REALLY nervous.


Any insight will be appreciated.

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[ActiveDir] administrator accont

2005-04-20 Thread Kern, Tom
I'm about to change the password for the Domain administrator account and I'd 
like to know if there is any script that i could run that would tell me what 
services/tasks run under this account on member servers and domain controllers.
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RE: [ActiveDir] administrator accont

2005-04-20 Thread Jorge de Almeida Pinto
For scheduled tasks you can use (from a W2K3 server):
schtasks /query /S SRVHOST /V /FO CSV /U USERNAME /P PASSWORD

Use the latter 4 only if you are not logged on with credentials that has
permissions on the server you connect to

For services the following script in the MS scriptcenter may help you:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/scriptcenter/scripts/os/services/ossvvb08.m
spx


Jorge

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Sent: 4/20/2005 8:39 PM
Subject: [ActiveDir] administrator accont

I'm about to change the password for the Domain administrator account
and I'd like to know if there is any script that i could run that would
tell me what services/tasks run under this account on member servers and
domain controllers.
Thanks
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RE: [ActiveDir] administrator accont

2005-04-20 Thread Jorge de Almeida Pinto
 While you're at it, create service accounts and/or scheduled tasks accounts
and reconfigure those tasks/services with the new account so the default
built-in admin account is not used!

Jorge

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Sent: 4/20/2005 8:39 PM
Subject: [ActiveDir] administrator accont

I'm about to change the password for the Domain administrator account
and I'd like to know if there is any script that i could run that would
tell me what services/tasks run under this account on member servers and
domain controllers.
Thanks
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RE: [ActiveDir] Native Mode Switch

2005-04-20 Thread Jorge de Almeida Pinto
Manually re-writing the attribute will not work.

Also see:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/322692
http://www.petri.co.il/understanding_function_levels_in_windows_2003_ad.htm
Jorge

-Original Message-
From: Nicolas Blank
To: 'Jorge de Almeida Pinto'; ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Sent: 4/20/2005 8:25 PM
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Native Mode Switch

Thanks for the answer. This is understood, however, what are the
implications of manually re-writing the nTMixedDomain value back to 1?
Also, what actions does a DC take once the value change is efected that
makes the cange non-reversible?

-Original Message-
From: Jorge de Almeida Pinto
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 20 April 2005 08:17 PM
To: 'Nicolas Blank '; '[EMAIL PROTECTED] ';
'ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org '
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Native Mode Switch

When you convert the domain to native mode the attribute nTMixedDomain
on
the domain NC head of the replica where the change is made is changed
from 1
to 0. This change replicates out to all other replicas.
There is no way you can change this attribute back without doing a
disaster
recovery for the domain.
The main thing here is that you don't have legacy DCs in the domain
anymore!!!

I can think of the following solutions to test the change of the mode
switch:
* Create a copy of the particular machine with the SNA application and
test
that in a test environment
* Create a full backup of the particular DC with the SNA app, disable
OUTBOUND replication for that DC (REPADMIN) and change the mode switch.
If
something goes wrong restore the DC and enable replication again (the
latter
is needed as the restored DC will receive the disabled state from the
other
DCs.

Jorge
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Sent: 4/20/2005 7:30 PM
Subject: [ActiveDir] Native Mode Switch

Sorry, hijacked the topic by mistake. Appologies.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nicolas Blank
Sent: 20 April 2005 07:21 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] GC's

Eric,Joe,Al,Carlos,Guido Question for you guys and the wider audience.
What happens EXACTLY in Win2k on a DC(s) when the native mode switch is
pushed, and what are the ramifications of changing the attribute back to
reflect mixed mode one this has happened?

I have a customer with a nervous disposition that doesn't believe me
when I
say there ain't no way back that's supported without doing a AD DR.

Background is a business critical SNA application that HAS to live on a
DC.
MS is cool about switching to native, but customer is REALLY nervous.


Any insight will be appreciated.

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RE: [ActiveDir] OT:Upgrade from 2k to 2k3

2005-04-20 Thread Jorge de Almeida Pinto
I forgot to mention. The following article is very interesting also
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;555040

Common Mistakes When Upgrading a Windows 2000 Domain To a Windows 2003
Domain


RE: [ActiveDir] OT:Upgrade from 2k to 2k3
Jorge de Almeida Pinto
Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:52:07 -0700

Hi,

I just copied the text below from another thread I responded to yesterday.

See MS-KBQ325379 How to Upgrade Windows 2000 Domain Controllers to Windows
Server 2003 (http://support.microsoft.com/?id=325379) for all the details
you need to know about upgrading w2k to w2k3.

If you are considering in upgrading E2K to E2K3 see MS-KBQ822942
Considerations When You Upgrade to Exchange Server 2003
(http://support.microsoft.com/?id=822942)

About disconnecting the schema master when doing the schema upgrade see
MS-KQ821076 Windows Server 2003 Help Files Contain Incorrect Information
About How to Update a Windows 2000 Domain
(http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;821076)
I once read what the issue was when disconnecting the schema master from the
network, but I don't remember anymore. Maybe someone else on this list can
share info on the particular issue.

The main reason to disconnect the schema master is if the schema upgrade
goes wrong for some reason do don't screw up your forest and so you don't
need to do a forest recovery to revert to the last uncorrupt schema.
One other way to mitigate this risk could be to:
* Do a FULL backup of the schema master
* disable OUTBOUND replication for the SCHEMA MASTER FSMO first (REPADMIN
/OPTIONS FQDN DC +DISABLE_OUTBOUND_REPL)
* verify that outbound replication is disabled with REPLMON
* upgrade the schema (after meeting ALL prerequisites mentioned in
MS-KBQ325379!!!)
* check the event viewer for errors
* And IF everything is OK enable replication (REPADMIN /OPTIONS FQDN DC
-DISABLE_OUTBOUND_REPL)

When replication is enabled again on the schema master fsmo all directory
changes concerning AD objects will be halted because replication partners
see the schema has been changed (the DC performs a check to see if the
schema version has changed). The normal changes will only replicate after
the schema update has replicated

Ohh, and by the way: TEST FIRST IN A TEST ENVIRONMENT TO GET FAMILIAR WITH
THE PROCEDURE AND TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS!!!

Cheers
Jorge


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Sent: 4/19/2005 5:27 PM
Subject: [ActiveDir] OT:Upgrade from 2k to 2k3


Hi, 
I'm just looking to upgrade our domain controllers from 2k to
2k3. I actually have a 2k with exchange 2k that need to be upgraded to
2k3 and Exchange 2k3. 

Should I upgrade the exchange system before doing the DCs? 

Anyone have any docs with pros and cons? What is better or would cause
fewer troubles.


Thanks!

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RE: [ActiveDir] administrator account

2005-04-20 Thread Jorge de Almeida Pinto
Place the servers in a text file (or query those from AD). Adjust the
VBS script to read each line (server name) and execute the routine. Output
the info into the same file so you can search for your domain name

I don't have a script that can do this. However the script repository
has
one that almost do this.
The following scripts enumerate all COMPUTERS from AD:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/scriptcenter/scripts/ad/computer/cptrvb
07.m
spx

You can also use ADFIND or OLDCMP to get the servers

For each domain in the forest
AdFind.exe  -b DC=W2K3DOMAIN,DC=LAN -f
(objectcategory=computer)(operatingSystemVersion=X.X) CN

REPLACE X.X with 5.0* for w2k, 5.1* for wxp, 5.2* for w2k3
 
You could also use OLDCMP (which generates a very nice HTML page!)
OLDCMP -report -age 0 -b DC=W2K3DOMAIN,DC=LAN -f
(objectcategory=computer)(operatingSystemVersion=X.X)

REPLACE X.X with 5.0* for w2k, 5.1* for wxp, 5.2* for w2k3
 
#JORGE#

-Original Message-
From: Kern, Tom
To: Jorge de Almeida Pinto
Sent: 4/20/2005 9:16 PM
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] administrator accont

In the MS script, how would you edit it so that it does an enumeration
of services on all servers in a domain in one shot?
right now, i have to enter the server name as a value for that variable.

thanks

-Original Message-
From: Jorge de Almeida Pinto
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 3:13 PM
To: Kern, Tom; Jorge de Almeida Pinto
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] administrator accont


 Never tried it myself but I think it will work (as the DS commands on a
w2k3 srv also work against a w2k domain)

if you don't have the correct credentials you'll need to supply them in
the
scripts

#Jorge#

-Original Message-
From: Kern, Tom
To: Jorge de Almeida Pinto
Sent: 4/20/2005 9:07 PM
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] administrator accont

So, i can run schtasks from a win2k3 server to query tasks on win2k
servers?
Does the win2k3 server have to be in the same domain as long as I supply
the domain admin password in the target domain?

thanks

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From: Jorge de Almeida Pinto
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Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 3:05 PM
To: Kern, Tom; '[EMAIL PROTECTED] '; 'ActiveDir
(E-mail) '
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] administrator accont


For scheduled tasks you can use (from a W2K3 server):
schtasks /query /S SRVHOST /V /FO CSV /U USERNAME /P PASSWORD

Use the latter 4 only if you are not logged on with credentials that has
permissions on the server you connect to

For services the following script in the MS scriptcenter may help you:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/scriptcenter/scripts/os/services/ossvvb
08.m
spx


Jorge

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Subject: [ActiveDir] administrator accont

I'm about to change the password for the Domain administrator account
and I'd like to know if there is any script that i could run that

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RE: [ActiveDir] Restricting sensitive information

2005-04-20 Thread Perdue David J Contr InDyne/Enterprise IT



You could. If you're trying to keep Admin's out of 
the information there is a good bet they'd have the password for the local admin 
account or they could change it with less notice than a user's network 
account.

Dave
//SIGNED//
David J. 
Perdue



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carerros, 
CharlesSent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 10:48 AMTo: 
'ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org'Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Restricting 
sensitive information

Can 
you use a local administrator account of a machine to unencrypt files? I 
do it all the time on laptops that we have deployed when they bring them in for 
service. I'm not sure how well this works on servers, but if it does then 
this might not be such a great option.

Charlie

  -Original Message-From: Perdue David J Contr 
  InDyne/Enterprise IT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 
  Wednesday, April 20, 2005 11:34 AMTo: 
  ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Restricting 
  sensitive information
  You could encrypt the files/folders and add in the user 
  accounts of the folks who need access as well as one or two admins to help 
  maintain it. Depending on what your policy has setup for a recovery 
  agent, this would prevent individuals from accessing the files. They 
  could still rename/delete/take ownership, but they couldn't access the 
  data.
  
  Dave
  //SIGNED//
  David J. 
  Perdue
  
  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter 
  JessopSent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 04:44 AMTo: 
  ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: Re: [ActiveDir] Restricting 
  sensitive information
  Original Message:We have a problem in discussion where we 
  need to restrict sensitive HIPAA information to a very select few employees in 
  the US and only one or two people overseas. The problem is, we have 
  about 10-15 domain admins worldwide in our single domain, and this is too many 
  people to have access to the HIPAA data. Rather than take domain admin 
  priviledges away, whereby breaking their ability to promote domain 
  controllers, etc - what's an easy way to have a share on a file server 
  restricted to only a select few of the domain admins? We were thinking 
  of maybe adding a 2nd domain just for the server with this share on it. 
  Then only enterprise admins would have access to that other domain, so only 
  they could see that share. Is there an alternative to something this 
  drastic? ReplyWhy not simply install 
  the server out of the domain completely and use it's local 
  accounts?RegardsPeter Jessop


Re: [ActiveDir] Restricting sensitive information

2005-04-20 Thread Peter Jessop
It is very important that they don't have physical access to the server
and have no control over the accounts within it. These administrators
who should not have access should not be administrators over these
servers in any sense.

If the requirement is more lax, that is to say that they should not
have access and if they do have access it should be detectable, it
could be done under a domain context. Otherwise it should be completely
separated from the rest of the servers. 

It would be prudent to check local legal requirements and consult with the auditors over a satisfactory solution.

Peter Jessop

RE: [ActiveDir] Restricting sensitive information

2005-04-20 Thread travis.abrams
For Domain Admins I would suggest training them all to comply with
HIPAA. HIPPA doesn't say they can't have access but that access is
documented, audited and controlled. If you have to worry about HIPAA it
will be very hard to keep your domain admins completely isolated from
PHI. Assuming that these domain admins have rights to manage email and
the desktops of the machines that the people that work with the HIPAA
information use.
 
What about old fashioned NTFS permissions. Remove the local
Administrators group and that will remove Domain Admins. Or am I
forgetting something. :-)
 

Holland + Knight 
  
Travis Abrams 
IT Security  Systems Manager 
Holland  Knight LLP 

 




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Re: [ActiveDir] Restricting sensitive information

2005-04-20 Thread Kern, Tom
Administrators all have the take ownership right on all ntfs files.
They could always take ownership and change the permissions to something they 
would like...
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RE: [ActiveDir] Restricting sensitive information

2005-04-20 Thread Katrin Wilhelm
I think if you use the 'deny' flag you should be able to restrict the access to 
just the 2 admins if you like. As the deny options overrides everything else 
deny the 12 admin accounts and do nothing to the last two. Deny should over 
ride the privileges they got from the admin group.
 
Hope this helps.
 
Kat



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Perdue David J Contr InDyne/Enterprise IT
Sent: Thu 21/04/2005 6:30 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Restricting sensitive information


You could.  If you're trying to keep Admin's out of the information there is a 
good bet they'd have the password for the local admin account or they could 
change it with less notice than a user's network account.
 
Dave
//SIGNED//

David J. Perdue

 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carerros, Charles
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 10:48 AM
To: 'ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Restricting sensitive information


Can you use a local administrator account of a machine to unencrypt files?  I 
do it all the time on laptops that we have deployed when they bring them in for 
service.  I'm not sure how well this works on servers, but if it does then this 
might not be such a great option.
 
Charlie

-Original Message-
From: Perdue David J Contr InDyne/Enterprise IT [mailto:[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 11:34 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Restricting sensitive information


You could encrypt the files/folders and add in the user accounts of the 
folks who need access as well as one or two admins to help maintain it.  
Depending on what your policy has setup for a recovery agent, this would 
prevent individuals from accessing the files.  They could still 
rename/delete/take ownership, but they couldn't access the data.
 
Dave
//SIGNED//

David J. Perdue

 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter 
Jessop
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 04:44 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Restricting sensitive information


Original Message:

We have a problem in discussion where we need to restrict sensitive 
HIPAA information to a very select few employees in the US and only one or two 
people overseas.  The problem is, we have about 10-15 domain admins worldwide 
in our single domain, and this is too many people to have access to the HIPAA 
data.  Rather than take domain admin priviledges away, whereby breaking their 
ability to promote domain controllers, etc - what's an easy way to have a share 
on a file server restricted to only a select few of the domain admins? 

We were thinking of maybe adding a 2nd domain just for the server with 
this share on it.  Then only enterprise admins would have access to that other 
domain, so only they could see that share.  Is there an alternative to 
something this drastic? 

Reply

Why not simply install the server out of the domain completely and use 
it's local accounts?

Regards

Peter Jessop




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RE: [ActiveDir] Restricting sensitive information

2005-04-20 Thread Perdue David J Contr InDyne/Enterprise IT



Even if you use the deny attribute, if they have admin 
rights on the system where the file is kept, they can still take ownership and 
change the security attributes. You would have to deny their accounts 
access and remove them from the local admin on the system. Not only is 
that incredibly obvious, but it prevents them from doing necessary portions of 
their job. Coupled with the fact, that if they are Domain Admins, they 
probably have physical access to the system. With that and a couple of 
well placed excuses they are into the files.

Your 
best bet would be to encrypt the file, and only add the accounts/certificates of 
individuals who require access and a person or two to help the user administrate 
the encryptionon the files/folders. Then you set/specify the 
recovery agent for the system via GPO. Either remove the recovery agent or 
specify it as an individual account they do not have access to. Even as an 
admin, they cannot modify the encryption properties of the file. They 
could take ownership, modify permissions, but as the security attributes and the 
encryption information are stored in seperate parts, they can't override 
it. 


//SIGNED//
David J. 
PerdueNetworkSecurity Engineer, 
InDyne IncComm: (805) 606-4597 DSN: 276-4597 




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Katrin 
WilhelmSent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 15:40 PMTo: 
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Restricting 
sensitive information


I think if you use the 'deny' 
flag you should be able to restrict the access to just the 2 admins if you like. 
As the deny options overrides everything else deny the 12 admin accounts and do 
nothing to the last two. Deny should over ride the privileges they got from the 
admin group.

Hope this helps.

Kat


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 
behalf of Perdue David J Contr InDyne/Enterprise ITSent: Thu 
21/04/2005 6:30 AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: 
RE: [ActiveDir] Restricting sensitive information

You could. If you're trying to keep Admin's out of 
the information there is a good bet they'd have the password for the local admin 
account or they could change it with less notice than a user's network 
account.

Dave
//SIGNED//
David J. 
Perdue



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carerros, 
CharlesSent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 10:48 AMTo: 
'ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org'Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Restricting 
sensitive information

Can 
you use a local administrator account of a machine to unencrypt files? I 
do it all the time on laptops that we have deployed when they bring them in for 
service. I'm not sure how well this works on servers, but if it does then 
this might not be such a great option.

Charlie

  -Original Message-From: Perdue David J Contr 
  InDyne/Enterprise IT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 
  Wednesday, April 20, 2005 11:34 AMTo: 
  ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Restricting 
  sensitive information
  You could encrypt the files/folders and add in the user 
  accounts of the folks who need access as well as one or two admins to help 
  maintain it. Depending on what your policy has setup for a recovery 
  agent, this would prevent individuals from accessing the files. They 
  could still rename/delete/take ownership, but they couldn't access the 
  data.
  
  Dave
  //SIGNED//
  David J. 
  Perdue
  
  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter 
  JessopSent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 04:44 AMTo: 
  ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: Re: [ActiveDir] Restricting 
  sensitive information
  Original Message:We have a problem in discussion where we 
  need to restrict sensitive HIPAA information to a very select few employees in 
  the US and only one or two people overseas. The problem is, we have 
  about 10-15 domain admins worldwide in our single domain, and this is too many 
  people to have access to the HIPAA data. Rather than take domain admin 
  priviledges away, whereby breaking their ability to promote domain 
  controllers, etc - what's an easy way to have a share on a file server 
  restricted to only a select few of the domain admins? We were thinking 
  of maybe adding a 2nd domain just for the server with this share on it. 
  Then only enterprise admins would have access to that other domain, so only 
  they could see that share. Is there an alternative to something this 
  drastic? ReplyWhy not simply install 
  the server out of the domain completely and use it's local 
  accounts?RegardsPeter Jessop
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RE: [ActiveDir] Restricting sensitive information

2005-04-20 Thread Roger Seielstad
THat's a philisophical issue. Frankly, the bottom line is two-fold:
 
1. Use the concept of least necessary permissions - only grant specific
people enough access to do their job - no more. Currently, I manage 1000
servers in a domain in which I have nothing more than a general user
account - no domain admin access at all. Only explicit elevation of
privileges is having rights for our OU.
 
2. If you can't trust the admins, replace them. There are plenty (and I mean
PLENTY) of ways to validate that someone isn't doing something they
shouldn't - auditing is your friend. 
 


Roger Seielstad
E-mail Geek 

 


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Katrin Wilhelm
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 3:40 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Restricting sensitive information


I think if you use the 'deny' flag you should be able to restrict the access
to just the 2 admins if you like. As the deny options overrides everything
else deny the 12 admin accounts and do nothing to the last two. Deny should
over ride the privileges they got from the admin group.
 
Hope this helps.
 
Kat

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Perdue David J Contr
InDyne/Enterprise IT
Sent: Thu 21/04/2005 6:30 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Restricting sensitive information


You could.  If you're trying to keep Admin's out of the information there is
a good bet they'd have the password for the local admin account or they
could change it with less notice than a user's network account.
 
Dave
//SIGNED//

David J. Perdue

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carerros, Charles
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 10:48 AM
To: 'ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Restricting sensitive information


Can you use a local administrator account of a machine to unencrypt files?
I do it all the time on laptops that we have deployed when they bring them
in for service.  I'm not sure how well this works on servers, but if it does
then this might not be such a great option.
 
Charlie

-Original Message-
From: Perdue David J Contr InDyne/Enterprise IT
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 11:34 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Restricting sensitive information


You could encrypt the files/folders and add in the user accounts of the
folks who need access as well as one or two admins to help maintain it.
Depending on what your policy has setup for a recovery agent, this would
prevent individuals from accessing the files.  They could still
rename/delete/take ownership, but they couldn't access the data.
 
Dave
//SIGNED//

David J. Perdue

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Jessop
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 04:44 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Restricting sensitive information


Original Message:

We have a problem in discussion where we need to restrict sensitive HIPAA
information to a very select few employees in the US and only one or two
people overseas.  The problem is, we have about 10-15 domain admins
worldwide in our single domain, and this is too many people to have access
to the HIPAA data.  Rather than take domain admin priviledges away, whereby
breaking their ability to promote domain controllers, etc - what's an easy
way to have a share on a file server restricted to only a select few of the
domain admins? 

We were thinking of maybe adding a 2nd domain just for the server with this
share on it.  Then only enterprise admins would have access to that other
domain, so only they could see that share.  Is there an alternative to
something this drastic? 

Reply

Why not simply install the server out of the domain completely and use it's
local accounts?

Regards

Peter Jessop



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RE: [ActiveDir] Policies: ALL ADMINS SHOULD READ THIS...

2005-04-20 Thread Blair, James



After a night of just about no sleep and spending the day 
on this problem. I did not let on but it was slightly more complicated in such 
that our Exchange servers were unable send mail between sites. After placing a 
call with HP and then getting forwarded to Microsoft Canada we still had no joy. 
This morning we found that the following patch was applied last Friday, our SUS 
roll out day:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/893066

This patch caused the following:

Exchange servers unable to talk between 
sites.
Workstations only able to access shares on local subnets. 

Unable to access Corporate intranet..separate 
subnet.

If any of you have or have had the same problem I wouldn't 
mind an e-mail as I need as much ammunition as possible for the seemingly large 
report I am going to have to put together.

James



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, 20 April 2005 11:45 
PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] 
Policies:
Assuming that there is no static(s), 
ACL, NAT or PAT issues with a firewall or router IOS keeping IP traffic from 
flowing over what I am guessing to be port 80 traffic. ICMP (ping) means little 
in the way of connectivity. Just means that a form of traffic can reach the 
destination host. Have you done a TRACERT to check the timing? Also, what port 
or mixture of ports seem to be blocked? Understand that ICMP is getting through 
to the host but if this involves long distances, it may be a propagation issue 
or a combination of issues. Lets whittle some of these unknowns out one at a 
time till we find a solution. Brent Eads


RE: [ActiveDir] Policies: ALL ADMINS SHOULD READ THIS...

2005-04-20 Thread freddy_hartono








Did uninstallation worked as a workaround?





Thank you and have a splendid day!



Kind Regards,



Freddy Hartono

Windows Administrator (ADSM/NT Security)

Spherion Technology Group, Singapore

For Agilent Technologies

E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]













From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blair, James
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005
12:41 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Policies:
ALL ADMINS SHOULD READ THIS...
Importance: High





After a night of just about no sleep and
spending the day on this problem. I did not let on but it was slightly more
complicated in such that our Exchange servers were unable send mail between
sites. After placing a call with HP and then getting forwarded to Microsoft Canada we still
had no joy. This morning we found that the following patch was applied last
Friday, our SUS roll out day:



http://support.microsoft.com/kb/893066



This patch caused the following:



Exchange servers unable to talk between
sites.

Workstations only able to access shares on
local subnets. 

Unable to access Corporate
intranet..separate subnet.



If any of you have or have had the same
problem I wouldn't mind an e-mail as I need as much ammunition as possible for
the seemingly large report I am going to have to put together.







James















From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, 20 April 2005
11:45 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Policies:


Assuming that there is no static(s), ACL, NAT or PAT
issues with a firewall or router IOS keeping IP traffic from flowing over what
I am guessing to be port 80 traffic. ICMP (ping) means little in the way of
connectivity. Just means that a form of traffic can reach the destination host.
Have you done a TRACERT to check the timing? Also, what port or mixture of
ports seem to be blocked? Understand that ICMP is getting through to the host
but if this involves long distances, it may be a propagation issue or a
combination of issues. Lets whittle some of these unknowns out one at a time
till we find a solution. 



Brent Eads