Re: [ActiveDir] Discovering LDAPS availability

2006-10-11 Thread Paul Williams
The project that I'm working on makes heavy use of LDAPS.  However, at the 
moment, we favour the latter statement - the built DCs don't leave staging 
until the certs are pulled.  They must be signed off, and that's one of the 
last items on the deployment check list.


We'll probably automate this check soon, but we're too busy with automating 
the buillds at the moment.


Personally, I like the idea of _ldaps SRV RRs.  Although I can appreciate 
there's a bit more to it from MSFTs point of view than simply getting 
NETLOGON to register them in DNS.



--Paul

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From: joe [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 10:45 PM
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Discovering LDAPS availability



Hmm doesn't look like anyone else has figured this out or just doesn't
deploy LDAPS or alternately makes sure every DC is capable of LDAPS.


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Loder
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 8:51 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Discovering LDAPS availability

joe's absolutely right.  What's trying to be
accomplished is to publish new LDAPS SRV records for a
300+ DC environment.  But I don't want to just blindly
assume each DC properly enrolled with the CA (we had
problems like that at the beginning), and I'd really
like to avoid the overhead of touching each DC.
Unfortunately, that's about the only viable method I
see.

We have a DCR in with MS to change the behavior so
that the DCs automatically publish LDAPS if it's
available.  But what we're hearing right now is that
it's probably not in the pipeline until LH SP1.

--- joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


LDAPS records aren't published by DCs, only LDAP
records. I can assure you
if it were that easy, David wouldn't have had an
issue. From what I have
seen, if a secure LDAP connection is required, the
internal routines from
MSFT simply locate a DC and go to the port. If LDAPS
isn't hot, the
connection is dropped with server down error.


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Couldn't you just query the DNS for the SRV record
advertising it...

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Other than directly testing the 636 port on each DC,
can anyone suggest a method for an unprivledged
client
to discover whether or not LDAPS should be available
on a specific DC?

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RE: [ActiveDir] Forest trust divestitures

2006-10-11 Thread Almeida Pinto, Jorge de



very very true

interim forests...
AND another part is responsability...first it's mine and 
THEN it is yours (and there is very little to nothing in between). In other 
words... a clear hand-over moment.
although the selling company is responsable for the first 
phase the buying company should be involved in the first phase (although not 
leading) to be sure they know what they get and of course also how they get it. 
The buying company should setup requirements and discuss these with the selling 
company

jorge

  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Grillenmeier, 
  GuidoSent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 21:45To: 
  ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Forest trust 
   divestitures
  
  
  If 
  I were the security officer for Company B, I would have real issues with this 
  plan. 
  
  Most 
  companies with sufficient understanding of AD Security would not want any of 
  their DCs placed in any location where the other companys network is still 
  active (i.e. DCs from company A and company B on same network). Thats 
  different in a merger, where the full IT infrastructure will be merged 
  anyways. But youre talking about a divestiture of a PART of a 
  company.
  
  The 
  plan youre describing doesnt really scale well over time  not sure if 
  youre considering issues youre experiencing during the migration  how long 
  are you willing to run forest B without PDC/RID etc?
  
  What 
  Ive done in similar situations is to implement an interims forest. 
  
  Step 
  1: 
  implement Interims Forest C in Company As network  migrate objects and 
  resources from divested BU over from Forest A to C. Test that the divested BU 
  works in Forest C and that other Company A Bus continue to work fine as well. 
  Potentially change naming convention of objects to that of Company B during 
  the migration to Forest C. Troubleshoot as necessary.
  Step2: 
  when ready separate network of Forest C from Company A and integrated it with 
  network from Company B
  Step3: 
  with sufficient time for planning the integration, migrate objects and 
  resources from Forest C to B. If not done previously, adjust naming of objects 
  convention during this migration.
  
  This 
  sounds like a whole lot of extra work, but usually it pays off: it is the most 
  secure way to separate the divested part of the company and doesnt put either 
  company at (unwanted) risks. It also gives you more flexibility on when 
  to do which step and wont cause any issues with either of the operational 
  forests.
  
  /Guido
  
  
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  On Behalf Of Harvey KamangwitzSent: Monday, October 09, 2006 
  7:58 PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: 
  [ActiveDir] Forest trust  divestitures
  
  
  Hi all,
  
  
  
  I'm consulting on a divestiture, and naturally the 
  companies want their respective AD forests to have the minimum amount of 
  contact necessary to migrate the security principals in the divestiture from 
  company A to company B. I wanted to sanity check with this brain trust that we 
  can do a one-wayforest trust in this firewalled situation. (They're 
  going to use Quest Migration Manager for AD, and though technically it doesn't 
  REQUIRE a one-way trust, the Quest SE says it's an order of magnitude easier. 
  A one-way outgoing trust has been approved by the various security players so 
  it can be done.) 
  
  
  
  - ForestA (multiple domains) and ForestB (single domain). 
  In the beginning, no communication between them.
  
  
  
  - ForestB DCs are physically landed at various Company A 
  locations in pocket networks that can talk back
  
   to Company B, so they're healthy.Though 
  they're at Company A, they are firewalled from A until D-day. 
  
  
   All forest B pocket network DCs can talk to each 
  other as well as back home.
  
  
  
  D-Day:
  
  - Transfer PDC and RID FSMOs toone of company 
  B'spocket network DCs. (see next step for why.)
  
  
  
  - Firewall off communication to company B's network, and 
  open up comm to company A's network.
  
   This will make for a temporarily unhappy company B 
  forest, but it will be okay for the duration of the migration. More 
  importantly,
  
   it'll make the PDC available on the company A 
  network for the forest trust setup and the RID master also available 
  
  
   to hand out more RIDs during the 
  migration.
  
   There should now be a functional company B forest on 
  company A's network (though it'll be complaining about missing 
  DCs).
  
  
  
  - Configure DNS conditional forwarding in forest A to find 
  forest B's pocket network DCs and vice versa.
  
   Would I have to set up forwarding on every DNS 
  server in forestA? They have a lot of DCs.
  
  
  
  - Establish the forest trust from A to 
  B.
  
   Would selective authentication on the trust protect 
  the visibility of A's security principals? It's mainly designed to 

RE: [ActiveDir] Forest trust divestitures

2006-10-11 Thread Grillenmeier, Guido








I didnt read Harveys comment ForestB DCs are physically landed at various Company A locations in
pocket networks that can talk back as something that already
exists today. I would have thought is part of his plan and that today there
are no DCs from Company B in any of Company A locations. 



So were using different assumptions in our discussion  Harvey,
can you clarify?



Also note Jorges very valid comment on responsibility: the interims
forest C has a clear hand-over of responsibility of the BU being divested.



/Guido





From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Al Mulnick
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 3:12 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Forest trust  divestitures







Agreed that the risk is there. Good idea to spell it
out, but I got the sense that much gnashing of teeth was already had over the
decision to create a one-way trust or not. 






And because the dc's already share a network (even though
firewalled from time to time) I'm not seeing how the forest C topology helps to
mitigate the risk you describe? They'll still have possession of a DC from a
previously trusted (and therefore suspect) forest. No difference there. Unless
Forest A keeps control of the demilitarized forest C. But then how
does Forest B learn to trust them? :) 











In any event, I see a double migration without much
mitigation of risk nor benefit. I'm guessing I'm missing something in the
description of the problem else not asking the right question(s). 











I'm curious if that's the case? 











If so, is there more information to be aware of in this
scenario that can be shared? 


















On 10/10/06, Grillenmeier, Guido
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote: 





Al, what risk has been
assumed? You're assuming everyone understands all the potential risks of
binding two AD infrastructures together as suggested, and that we're all
playing nice to another? I'm not assuming that. 



I'm always assuming that there
is potential for the bad guys to be around. And if they are, the original plan
allows the wrong people (read: Admins of Domain A) to have access to DCs of
Domain B. And potentially also the other way around. Not good. Unless merger
and we're talking the same company  but that's not the case here  these are
two different companies. 



A firewall doesn't protect from
a compromised DC, especially if you bring that DC back into your production
forest 



/Guido





From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of Al Mulnick
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 11:44 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Forest trust  divestitures









curious. 











I'm not seeing the same things as Guido here. 











PDC/RID will remain on the forest, but it will be blocked for the duration
of the migration while A forest and B forest are not firewalled in that one
site. (as I read it). 











But what makes me curious is this: 





The risk has already been assumed. What is the advantage here of
adding forest C? I see that it's extra steps, but I don't see the connection to
the drawn out go-at-your-own-pace migration. 











I'm interested in having it spelled out for me though. Please. :)







On 10/10/06, Harvey Kamangwitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote: 



I certainly wouldn't allow it if I were security either, but they said it
was okay. Probably has something to do with the fact the acquisition will
almost double the size of the company :).











The interim forest is a great idea. I had intended to bring up a test forest
to dry-run the migration in company A environment, but I didn't follow the
train of thought through to suggest that the actual migration be done to that
forest, and moved to the target company. 









On 10/10/06, Grillenmeier, Guido [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote: 





If I were the security officer
for Company B, I would have real issues with this plan. 



Most companies with sufficient
understanding of AD Security would not want any of their DCs placed in any
location where the other company's network is still active (i.e. DCs from
company A and company B on same network). That's different in a merger, where
the full IT infrastructure will be merged anyways. But you're talking about a
divestiture of a PART of a company. 



The plan you're describing
doesn't really scale well over time  not sure if you're considering issues
you're experiencing during the migration  how long are you willing to run
forest B without PDC/RID etc? 



What I've done in similar
situations is to implement an interims forest. 

Step 1: implement Interims Forest C in Company
A's network  migrate objects and resources from divested BU over from
Forest A to C. Test that the divested BU works in Forest C and that other
Company A Bus continue to work fine as well. Potentially change naming
convention of objects to that of Company B during the migration to Forest C.
Troubleshoot as necessary. 


RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Ello!

2006-10-11 Thread Paul van Geldrop
You only have yourself to blame for pointing me to it, young man!
That brings the amount of possible ways to annoy you to.. 7. Muahaha.
Getting scared yet ? :P
 
Paul
 
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Ello!
 
sh!t..he found the list...and I hoped he would never find it
well... I guess it did not work when I told him it was something like
edir.org
;-)
 
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To: ActiveDir
Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Ello!
Ello!
 
Just thought I'd at least have the decency to announce my presence on this
list. ;)
Joined today and looking forward to learning from all the grey matter
frequenting this list!
 
Regards,
 
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RE: [ActiveDir] recover a file server in Windows 2003

2006-10-11 Thread Paul van Geldrop








How exactly do you plan to failover to
this server (at least, thats what I presume you want to do) ? 

First option that springs to mind is setting
up a two-node cluster, letting the cluster-resources reside on the SAN disks. That
way, if one of the servers fails, everythingll smoothly transfer to the
other server. 

Keep in mind, however, that during the
transfer connections to open files will hiccup (or even completely falter).

The nice part about clustering the lot is
that you can just maintain the resource per se, instead of having to configure
folders etc on two separate servers.



Regards,



Paul



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2:18 AM
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Subject: [ActiveDir] recover a
file server in Windows 2003







Hi,











I am working on building
a recovery server for a Windows 2003 file server. This file server is
connected to the SAN and contains many shared folders. How could I
configure the recovery server with the same shared folder if I connected it to
the same SAN volumes.?











Thanks,






Philo












Re: [ActiveDir] OT: Ello!

2006-10-11 Thread Bart Van den Wyngaert

... Dutch men :-))

On 10/11/06, Paul van Geldrop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

You only have yourself to blame for pointing me to it, young man!
That brings the amount of possible ways to annoy you to.. 7. Muahaha.
Getting scared yet ? :P

Paul

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Behalf Of Almeida Pinto, Jorge de
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Ello!

sh!t..he found the list...and I hoped he would never find it
well... I guess it did not work when I told him it was something like
edir.org
;-)

Met vriendelijke groeten / Kind regards,
Ing. Jorge de Almeida Pinto
Senior Infrastructure Consultant
MVP Windows Server - Directory Services

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Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Ello!
Ello!

Just thought I'd at least have the decency to announce my presence on this
list. ;)
Joined today and looking forward to learning from all the grey matter
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[ActiveDir] Jason Centenni is Out Of Town

2006-10-11 Thread Jason_Centenni
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RE: [ActiveDir] Flags Attribute?

2006-10-11 Thread Bernier, Brandon \(.\)
Title: RE: Flags Attribute?



That did it. Thanks joe!


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
joeSent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 5:02 PMTo: 
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Flags 
Attribute?

For the first part, what about just using LDIFDE to export 
from AD?

dn: 
CN=Flags,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=test,DC=locchangetype: 
addobjectClass: attributeSchemaattributeID: 
1.2.840.113556.1.4.38attributeSyntax: 2.5.5.9isSingleValued: 
TRUEshowInAdvancedViewOnly: TRUEadminDisplayName: 
FlagsadminDescription: FlagsoMSyntax: 2searchFlags: 
0lDAPDisplayName: flagsname: FlagsschemaIDGUID:: 
dnmWv+YN0BGihQCqADBJ4g==systemOnly: FALSEsystemFlags: 
16isMemberOfPartialAttributeSet: TRUE

Alternately you can pull this

# Attribute: flagsdn: 
cn=Flags,cn=Schema,cn=Configuration,dc=Xchangetype: 
ntdsschemaaddobjectClass: attributeSchemaattributeId: 
1.2.840.113556.1.4.38ldapDisplayName: flagsattributeSyntax: 
2.5.5.9adminDescription: FlagsadminDisplayName: Flags# schemaIDGUID: 
bf967976-0de6-11d0-a285-00aa003049e2schemaIDGUID:: 
dnmWv+YN0BGihQCqADBJ4g==oMSyntax: 2systemFlags: 
16isMemberOfPartialAttributeSet: TRUEisSingleValued: TRUEsystemOnly: 
FALSE

from 
the %windir%\adam\MS-AdamSchemaW2K3.LDF file in ADAM SP1.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bernier, Brandon 
(.)Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 4:04 PMTo: 
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Flags 
Attribute?

Nevermind the second part of my 
question. I figured out what I was doing wrong, my LDIF syntax was messed up 
when I tried to modify MayContain.
_ 
From:  Bernier, Brandon (.) Sent: Tuesday, October 
10, 2006 3:05 PM To: 'ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org' Subject: Flags Attribute? 
Ok, I think I'm going crazy here... I need to add 
the Flags attribute into an ADAM instance and can't find it in any of LDF files 
that ship with W2K/W2K3/R2/ADAM. While I can do a ADFind on this attribute and 
dump the needed properties into a LDIF file, I'd like to steal as much as 
possible that what was originally imported into AD. 
Also, when I'm creating an attribute how do I have 
it change the SystemMayContain/MayContain attribute on a existing structural 
Class? I know they are construcuted and I can't modify the Class directly, but 
know there must be a way to do it.
Thanks for the help! 
-Brandon 


RE: [ActiveDir] OT: WSS and AD. WebPart user information

2006-10-11 Thread Ramon Linan
Frustrating!, :) sounds very hard to do for a .net newbie like me. I
have work with Zope and Plone before and everything is much easier...
Unluckily, we cant use Plone or other CMS I am more familiar with, and I
need to create this tool, webpart or whatever so the users can update
their contact info.

I have done a few scripts in asp to display information from AD even to
change information in AD, my problem is how to do that inside
SharePoint, unless I can create an external page to do this and have a
link in the SharePoint site...

Anyway, thanks for the info, I will get your book to see if figure
things out.

Thanks 

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Ryan and I wrote a whole book that is essentially all about how you
might write such a thing (www.directoryprogramming.net), but we don't
have any pre-baked web parts in the samples.  All the code is lower
level than that.

We also have such a thing that we use internally (actually a server
control, not a full web part) that uses Ajax and a popup query form to
implement an AD picker.  Unfortunately, I can't share it outside the
company.

The key to something like this is deciding how you want the security
model to work.  You can basically either use the trusted subsystem
design (use a service account to query AD) or use the delegated model
(flow the authenticated user's security context through to AD).  Since
SharePoint uses impersonation by default, the delegated model is what
you'll get unless you change something to implement the trusted
subsystem model.

Delegation is hard to get working, as it requires implementing Kerberos
delegation, one of the black arts of Windows AD configuration stuff. 
SharePoint tends to fight delegation as well, as versions before SP2
actually disable Kerberos authentication in the IIS metabase when it is
installed.  You have to undo that or get protocol transition working.
It can be icky.  :)

Joe K.

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To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 2:30 PM
Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: WSS and AD. WebPart user information


Hi everyone,

Does anyone knows of a web part for Windows SharePoint services 2 or 3
to 
grab information from AD users?

I want to create a web part that will allow the user to update their
contact 
information and update AD at the same time.


Thanks

Rezuma 

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RE: [ActiveDir] Discovering LDAPS availability

2006-10-11 Thread joe
The alternate solution I previously mentioned to David and his cohorts in
crime was a distasteful but functional solution of writing their own service
or script to register the records based on that script/service querying the
DCs and getting their LDAPS capability at any given point and then being
aware that there will be some level of latency there.

  joe


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Williams
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 3:24 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Discovering LDAPS availability

The project that I'm working on makes heavy use of LDAPS.  However, at the 
moment, we favour the latter statement - the built DCs don't leave staging

until the certs are pulled.  They must be signed off, and that's one of the 
last items on the deployment check list.

We'll probably automate this check soon, but we're too busy with automating 
the buillds at the moment.

Personally, I like the idea of _ldaps SRV RRs.  Although I can appreciate 
there's a bit more to it from MSFTs point of view than simply getting 
NETLOGON to register them in DNS.


--Paul

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Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 10:45 PM
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Discovering LDAPS availability


 Hmm doesn't look like anyone else has figured this out or just doesn't
 deploy LDAPS or alternately makes sure every DC is capable of LDAPS.


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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Loder
 Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 8:51 AM
 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Discovering LDAPS availability

 joe's absolutely right.  What's trying to be
 accomplished is to publish new LDAPS SRV records for a
 300+ DC environment.  But I don't want to just blindly
 assume each DC properly enrolled with the CA (we had
 problems like that at the beginning), and I'd really
 like to avoid the overhead of touching each DC.
 Unfortunately, that's about the only viable method I
 see.

 We have a DCR in with MS to change the behavior so
 that the DCs automatically publish LDAPS if it's
 available.  But what we're hearing right now is that
 it's probably not in the pipeline until LH SP1.

 --- joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 LDAPS records aren't published by DCs, only LDAP
 records. I can assure you
 if it were that easy, David wouldn't have had an
 issue. From what I have
 seen, if a secure LDAP connection is required, the
 internal routines from
 MSFT simply locate a DC and go to the port. If LDAPS
 isn't hot, the
 connection is dropped with server down error.


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 Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Discovering LDAPS
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 Couldn't you just query the DNS for the SRV record
 advertising it...

 Matt Duguid
 Systems Engineer for Identity Services
 Department of Internal Affairs

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 Fax: +64 4 4748894
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 Other than directly testing the 636 port on each DC,
 can anyone suggest a method for an unprivledged
 client
 to discover whether or not LDAPS should be available
 on a specific DC?

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RE: [ActiveDir] Discovering LDAPS availability

2006-10-11 Thread Thommes, Michael M.
In this context, would it make sense to write/use a servicePrincipalName
value? (maybe even using admod/adfind  8-)  )

Mike Thommes

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Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 9:42 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Discovering LDAPS availability

The alternate solution I previously mentioned to David and his cohorts
in
crime was a distasteful but functional solution of writing their own
service
or script to register the records based on that script/service querying
the
DCs and getting their LDAPS capability at any given point and then being
aware that there will be some level of latency there.

  joe


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Williams
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 3:24 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Discovering LDAPS availability

The project that I'm working on makes heavy use of LDAPS.  However, at
the 
moment, we favour the latter statement - the built DCs don't leave
staging

until the certs are pulled.  They must be signed off, and that's one of
the 
last items on the deployment check list.

We'll probably automate this check soon, but we're too busy with
automating 
the buillds at the moment.

Personally, I like the idea of _ldaps SRV RRs.  Although I can
appreciate 
there's a bit more to it from MSFTs point of view than simply getting 
NETLOGON to register them in DNS.


--Paul

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To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 10:45 PM
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Discovering LDAPS availability


 Hmm doesn't look like anyone else has figured this out or just doesn't
 deploy LDAPS or alternately makes sure every DC is capable of LDAPS.


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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Loder
 Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 8:51 AM
 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Discovering LDAPS availability

 joe's absolutely right.  What's trying to be
 accomplished is to publish new LDAPS SRV records for a
 300+ DC environment.  But I don't want to just blindly
 assume each DC properly enrolled with the CA (we had
 problems like that at the beginning), and I'd really
 like to avoid the overhead of touching each DC.
 Unfortunately, that's about the only viable method I
 see.

 We have a DCR in with MS to change the behavior so
 that the DCs automatically publish LDAPS if it's
 available.  But what we're hearing right now is that
 it's probably not in the pipeline until LH SP1.

 --- joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 LDAPS records aren't published by DCs, only LDAP
 records. I can assure you
 if it were that easy, David wouldn't have had an
 issue. From what I have
 seen, if a secure LDAP connection is required, the
 internal routines from
 MSFT simply locate a DC and go to the port. If LDAPS
 isn't hot, the
 connection is dropped with server down error.


 --
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 http://www.joeware.net/win/ad3e.htm



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 Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 6:28 PM
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 Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Discovering LDAPS
 availability

 Couldn't you just query the DNS for the SRV record
 advertising it...

 Matt Duguid
 Systems Engineer for Identity Services
 Department of Internal Affairs

 Phone: +64 4 4748028 (wellington)
 Mobile: +64 21 1713290
 Fax: +64 4 4748894
 Address: Level 4, 47 Boulcott Street, Wellington CBD
 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[ActiveDir] Configuring Logon Hours in time execution

2006-10-11 Thread Atila Firmino
Title: Configuring Logon Hours in time execution






Hi everybody,


 I need to configure the logon hour option of the user object in my _vbscript_. I know it is possible by copy but I need to give more flexibility in hour configuration. Somebody can help me?

 Any suggestion will be appreciated. 


 Thanks.


Atila


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RE: [ActiveDir] OT: WSS and AD. WebPart user information

2006-10-11 Thread Brian Desmond
You'll have to download the Sharepoint templates from Microsoft for
Visual Studio and work on making a web part. 

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

c - 312.731.3132

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:ActiveDir-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ramon Linan
 Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 9:28 AM
 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: WSS and AD. WebPart user information
 
 Frustrating!, :) sounds very hard to do for a .net newbie like me. I
 have work with Zope and Plone before and everything is much easier...
 Unluckily, we cant use Plone or other CMS I am more familiar with, and
 I
 need to create this tool, webpart or whatever so the users can
update
 their contact info.
 
 I have done a few scripts in asp to display information from AD even
to
 change information in AD, my problem is how to do that inside
 SharePoint, unless I can create an external page to do this and have a
 link in the SharePoint site...
 
 Anyway, thanks for the info, I will get your book to see if figure
 things out.
 
 Thanks
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Kaplan
 Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 9:13 PM
 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
 Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: WSS and AD. WebPart user information
 
 Ryan and I wrote a whole book that is essentially all about how you
 might write such a thing (www.directoryprogramming.net), but we don't
 have any pre-baked web parts in the samples.  All the code is lower
 level than that.
 
 We also have such a thing that we use internally (actually a server
 control, not a full web part) that uses Ajax and a popup query form to
 implement an AD picker.  Unfortunately, I can't share it outside the
 company.
 
 The key to something like this is deciding how you want the security
 model to work.  You can basically either use the trusted subsystem
 design (use a service account to query AD) or use the delegated model
 (flow the authenticated user's security context through to AD).  Since
 SharePoint uses impersonation by default, the delegated model is what
 you'll get unless you change something to implement the trusted
 subsystem model.
 
 Delegation is hard to get working, as it requires implementing
Kerberos
 delegation, one of the black arts of Windows AD configuration stuff.
 SharePoint tends to fight delegation as well, as versions before SP2
 actually disable Kerberos authentication in the IIS metabase when it
is
 installed.  You have to undo that or get protocol transition working.
 It can be icky.  :)
 
 Joe K.
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Ramon Linan
 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
 Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 2:30 PM
 Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: WSS and AD. WebPart user information
 
 
 Hi everyone,
 
 Does anyone knows of a web part for Windows SharePoint services 2 or 3
 to
 grab information from AD users?
 
 I want to create a web part that will allow the user to update their
 contact
 information and update AD at the same time.
 
 
 Thanks
 
 Rezuma
 
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Re: [ActiveDir] RealVNC removal

2006-10-11 Thread AdamT

On 09/10/06, Matt Hargraves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I'd go with just disabling the service and setting it so that only Domain
Admins and System can even manage and/or see the service.  This is a
10-minute solution, whereas the others could take quite a bit of time to
research how to do correctly.


Since I put together a kludge to get UltraVNC config'd and out across
a few thousand machines a few months back, I've had to deal with the
removal of other VNCs

Running winvnc.exe -unregister should remove it from the list of
services.  If you want to go a step further (as you'll need to in
order to get UltraVNC's domain auth to work), you'll want to get rid
of c:\progra~1\RealVnc\*.* /s
and get rid of keys under HKCU and HKLM:

Software\RealVNC
Software\ORL

Bit late in replying, but hey-ho, I still have 1,263 other mails to
attend to



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Re: [ActiveDir] OT: WSS and AD. WebPart user information

2006-10-11 Thread Joe Kaplan

The actual code for programming AD in .NET is pretty similar to ADSI
(since it uses ADSI under the hood).  There is a more powerful,
strongly typed search interface called the DirectorySearcher that is
actually much more powerful an easier to use than ADO for searching.
All in all, it really isn't that hard.

The difficult part is the security aspects of connecting to the
directory.  There really aren't any shortcuts here, and most of the
same issues would exist in an ASP page (you actually have fewer
choices in ASP, but the same basic problems).  Once you decide if you
want trusted subsystem or delegated model for authentication, the rest
falls into place.

The other issue is that you'll likely spend more time on the HTML/UI
aspects of the control than you will on the LDAP parts.  That's the
way it always seems to work out.  :)

Joe K.

On 10/11/06, Ramon Linan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Frustrating!, :) sounds very hard to do for a .net newbie like me. I
have work with Zope and Plone before and everything is much easier...
Unluckily, we cant use Plone or other CMS I am more familiar with, and I
need to create this tool, webpart or whatever so the users can update
their contact info.

I have done a few scripts in asp to display information from AD even to
change information in AD, my problem is how to do that inside
SharePoint, unless I can create an external page to do this and have a
link in the SharePoint site...

Anyway, thanks for the info, I will get your book to see if figure
things out.

Thanks


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[ActiveDir] OT: File Server Permissions Design Question

2006-10-11 Thread Steve Evans
I've had difficulty finding a better forum in which to ask this.  And since
it involves AD Security Groups I thought I could get away with it.


We're in the process of migrating to a new file server.  Our shared drive 
has a basic structure of:

Shared\Department\Sub-Department\one public folder  one private folder

Our original thought was to have one Read and one Read/Write group for each 
public and private folder.  Those groups would then be populated by role 
based groups (department groups, position groups (ex all management)).  I've

written a script that you can point to a directory structure and it creates 
the appropriate groups and assigns the security permissions.

However I end up creating a lot of groups.  Just in ITS (for example) we 
have 15 sub-departments so that will produce 60 groups right there.  On the 
other hand everything is very structured and in theory you can mange file 
security permissions from within AD.  Since everything is scripted you never

need to go and look at folder permissions (except for the file server admin 
guys when troubleshooting).

I'm also concerned that users will end up being in groups that are nested in

a substantial number of groups.  For instance most of the public-read 
groups for ITS will contain the group ITS - All Staff.  That means any 
given ITS employee will have 30 security group tokens just from this.


Any thoughts or opinions?

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[ActiveDir] Groups membership question

2006-10-11 Thread Aaron Steele








I have one for you guys. I have been puzzling over for a
while. Seems simple, but I havent found a good solution.



Domain A one way trusts Domain B



Group in Domain A, contains members from Domain B.



Enumerate groups in Domain A, include membership for all
members in Domain B.

Or for the real answer. Find user in Domain B, and
tell me all group memberships from Domain A and Domain B.



Any ideas? Ive tried adfind queries, Ive
visited the windows scripting center and am at a loss.



Thanks for your help.



/aaron



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RE: [ActiveDir] recover a file server in Windows 2003

2006-10-11 Thread Philobatheer Guirgis
Hi Paul,  Unfortunately, this server is not clustered. I built another server similar to it. The production server is connected to the SAN. Suppose I want to disconnect the SAN and reconnect it to the new lab server; I think the shared folders will not be shared anymore on the lab server.Do you know where in the registry the sharenames are located?I would like to copy the registry key from one server to another. Or I need a script that copies the sharenames from the old server to the new server without losing any data.Thanks,PhilPaul van Geldrop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:How exactly do you plan to failover to this server (at least, that’s what I presume you want to do) ?   First option that springs to mind is setting up a two-node cluster, letting the cluster-resources reside on the SAN disks. That way, if one of the servers
 fails, everything’ll smoothly transfer to the other server.   Keep in mind, however, that during the transfer connections to open files will hiccup (or even completely falter).  The nice part about clustering the lot is that you can just maintain the resource per se, instead of having to configure folders etc on two separate servers.Regards, 
   Paul-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Philobatheer GuirgisSent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 2:18 AMTo:
 ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] recover a file server in Windows 2003Hi,I am working on building a recovery server for a Windows 2003 file server. This file server is connected to the SAN and contains many shared folders. How could I configure the recovery server with the same
 shared folder if I connected it to the same SAN volumes.?Thanks,Philo

Re: [ActiveDir] OT: File Server Permissions Design Question

2006-10-11 Thread Mark Parris
Have you looked at installing the Access based Enumeration feature pack and 
basing the permissioning on this type of model?

Assuming W2003.

Regards,




Mark Parris

Base IT Ltd
Active Directory Consultancy
Tel +44(0)7801 690596


-Original Message-
From: Steve Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 12:57:52 
To:ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: File Server Permissions Design Question

I've had difficulty finding a better forum in which to ask this.  And since
it involves AD Security Groups I thought I could get away with it.


We're in the process of migrating to a new file server.  Our shared drive 
has a basic structure of:

Shared\Department\Sub-Department\one public folder  one private folder

Our original thought was to have one Read and one Read/Write group for each 
public and private folder.  Those groups would then be populated by role 
based groups (department groups, position groups (ex all management)).  I've

written a script that you can point to a directory structure and it creates 
the appropriate groups and assigns the security permissions.

However I end up creating a lot of groups.  Just in ITS (for example) we 
have 15 sub-departments so that will produce 60 groups right there.  On the 
other hand everything is very structured and in theory you can mange file 
security permissions from within AD.  Since everything is scripted you never

need to go and look at folder permissions (except for the file server admin 
guys when troubleshooting).

I'm also concerned that users will end up being in groups that are nested in

a substantial number of groups.  For instance most of the public-read 
groups for ITS will contain the group ITS - All Staff.  That means any 
given ITS employee will have 30 security group tokens just from this.


Any thoughts or opinions?

Steve Evans

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[ActiveDir] Account migration within the same Forest...

2006-10-11 Thread RM
Title: Account migration within the same Forest...


  
  
Hi all, are there any simple 3rd party tools for copying a user account from one domain to another within the same forest?  ADMT is overkill and it does way more than I want/need it to do.  All I need is a copy of the account and for SIDhistory to be populated. Thanks!RM
  



RE: [ActiveDir] recover a file server in Windows 2003

2006-10-11 Thread Free, Bob
HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\LanmanServer\Shares 

Saving and restoring existing Windows shares:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/125996 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Philobatheer
Guirgis
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 2:25 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] recover a file server in Windows 2003


Hi Paul,

Unfortunately, this server is not clustered.  I built another server
similar to it.  The production server is connected to the SAN.  Suppose
I want to disconnect the SAN and reconnect it to the new lab server; I
think the shared folders will not be shared anymore on the lab server.
 
Do you know where in the registry the sharenames are located? I would
like to copy the registry key from one server to another.  Or I need a
script that copies the sharenames from the old server to the new server
without losing any data.
 
Thanks,
 Phil

Paul van Geldrop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

How exactly do you plan to failover to this server (at least,
that's what I presume you want to do) ? 
First option that springs to mind is setting up a two-node
cluster, letting the cluster-resources reside on the SAN disks. That
way, if one of the servers fails, everything'll smoothly transfer to the
other server. 
Keep in mind, however, that during the transfer connections to
open files will hiccup (or even completely falter).
The nice part about clustering the lot is that you can just
maintain the resource per se, instead of having to configure folders etc
on two separate servers.
 
Regards,
 
Paul
 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Philobatheer
Guirgis
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 2:18 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] recover a file server in Windows 2003
 
Hi,
 
I am working on building a recovery server for a Windows 2003
file server.  This file server is connected to the SAN and contains many
shared folders.  How could I configure the recovery server with the same
shared folder if I connected it to the same SAN volumes.?
 
Thanks,

Philo


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Re: [ActiveDir] Groups membership question

2006-10-11 Thread Laura E. Hunter

Can memberof.exe do this?  (Another joeware gem.)  I've never tried to
run it against multiple domain memberships, but I know it chases
nested memberships beautifully - if I'm not mistaken, that's why joe
originally whipped it up.

- Laura

On 10/11/06, Aaron Steele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




I have one for you guys. I have been puzzling over for a while. Seems
simple, but I haven't found a good solution.



Domain A one way trusts Domain B



Group in Domain A, contains members from Domain B.



Enumerate groups in Domain A, include membership for all members in Domain
B.

Or for the real answer.  Find user in Domain B, and tell me all group
memberships from Domain A and Domain B.



Any ideas? I've tried adfind queries, I've visited the windows scripting
center and am at a loss.



Thanks for your help.



/aaron



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RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange in environment - reboot necessary after a DC has been made a GC

2006-10-11 Thread Free, Bob
I can't for the life of me recall the name at the moment.  

NSPItool.exe ? 

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Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 3:45 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange in environment - reboot necessary
after a DC has been made a GC

The only other way I know to test if NSPI is working is to actually send
NSPI calls to the GC. There is a little unsupported command line tool
out there than can do that but I can't for the life of me recall the
name at the moment.  


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 7:48 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange in environment - reboot necessary
after a DC has been made a GC

I was misinformed, the rev of the DC is W2K, not W2K3 SP1. So that
clears up why Exchange is complaining about the GC needing a reboot
since it wasn't rebooted after it had been made a GC.

Interesting tool, RPC Dump, unfortunately I didnt get it to work just
yet.
It gave me an error: The NTVDM CPU has encountered an illegal
instruction, when I choose Ignore the Command.com or Cmd.exe starts
using 100% cpu.

Out of curiosity; is there another way to check if the MS NT Directory
NSP Interface
is listed?



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Sent: zaterdag 23 september 2006 2:52
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange in environment - reboot 
necessary
after a DC has been made a GC

What is the rev of the DC? Using RPC Dump do you see MS NT Directory 
NSP
Interface interfaces listed?

  joe


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Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 11:07 AM
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necessary
after a DC has been made a GC

Yeah, I thought so, thanks for the info.

The damn thing is that Exchange still throws event 9176:

Event ID 9176 from MSExchangeSA occurred 1 times (NSPI Proxy can contact
Global Catalog servername but it does not support the NSPI service. 
After
a Domain Controller is promoted to a Global Catalog, the  Global Catalog
must be rebooted to support MAPI Clients.  
Reboot servernamerio as  soon as possible.





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Onderwerp: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange in environment - reboot 
necessary
after a DC has been made a GC

 This is no longer necessary with current revs of AD. It was necessary 
 previously to get the NSPI functionality to fire up. Now it does that 
 automagically.
 
 
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 Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange in environment - reboot necessary 
 after a DC has been made a GC
 
 A question came up wether or not a reboot is really necessary after a 
 DC has been made GC and Exchange would need to use this GC.
 
 I have worked in a pretty large environment (at least to my standards 
 :- )). Where DC's did not get rebooted afther having been made GC's.
 The
 AD admins simply waited until event 1119 appeared.
 
 I have read the following article which indicates a reboot is 
 necessary if you have Exchange in the environment.
 
 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/304403/
 
 But is this really still necessary with Exchange 2003 SP2 and Windows
 2003 SP1?
 
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RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange in environment - reboot necessary after a DC has been made a GC

2006-10-11 Thread joe
That's it! 


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I can't for the life of me recall the name at the moment.  

NSPItool.exe ? 

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after a DC has been made a GC

The only other way I know to test if NSPI is working is to actually send
NSPI calls to the GC. There is a little unsupported command line tool
out there than can do that but I can't for the life of me recall the
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after a DC has been made a GC

I was misinformed, the rev of the DC is W2K, not W2K3 SP1. So that
clears up why Exchange is complaining about the GC needing a reboot
since it wasn't rebooted after it had been made a GC.

Interesting tool, RPC Dump, unfortunately I didnt get it to work just
yet.
It gave me an error: The NTVDM CPU has encountered an illegal
instruction, when I choose Ignore the Command.com or Cmd.exe starts
using 100% cpu.

Out of curiosity; is there another way to check if the MS NT Directory
NSP Interface
is listed?



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necessary
after a DC has been made a GC

What is the rev of the DC? Using RPC Dump do you see MS NT Directory 
NSP
Interface interfaces listed?

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necessary
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Yeah, I thought so, thanks for the info.

The damn thing is that Exchange still throws event 9176:

Event ID 9176 from MSExchangeSA occurred 1 times (NSPI Proxy can contact
Global Catalog servername but it does not support the NSPI service. 
After
a Domain Controller is promoted to a Global Catalog, the  Global Catalog
must be rebooted to support MAPI Clients.  
Reboot servernamerio as  soon as possible.





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 This is no longer necessary with current revs of AD. It was necessary 
 previously to get the NSPI functionality to fire up. Now it does that 
 automagically.
 
 
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 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
 Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Exchange in environment - reboot necessary 
 after a DC has been made a GC
 
 A question came up wether or not a reboot is really necessary after a 
 DC has been made GC and Exchange would need to use this GC.
 
 I have worked in a pretty large environment (at least to my standards 
 :- )). Where DC's did not get rebooted afther having been made GC's.
 The
 AD admins simply waited until event 1119 appeared.
 
 I have read the following article which indicates a reboot is 
 necessary if you have Exchange in the environment.
 
 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/304403/
 
 But is this really still necessary with Exchange 2003 SP2 and Windows
 2003 SP1?
 
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RE: [ActiveDir] OT: wikis

2006-10-11 Thread joe
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So, where would the ant be 5 seconds after the box started to tumble,
assuming it walks at 1 inch per hour (really slow ant). I'd really like to
know :-)

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And also, IMO, to help people realize they should question established
thought patterns.

I found it interesting that you teach math to children yet you don't get
enough math until pretty well into university that you can understand how it
actually works.

Mostly though I found the story problems fun, like when you have to build an
equation that will give you the point in space at any given point in time
where an ant is if he is walking towards the center of a 78 RPM record at x
inches per hour that is in a box that is tumbling at some fixed interval
falling off the edge of the grand canyon. Completely worthless in terms
useful info but a great mental exercise type problem.


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They like it because it shows that division by zero can bite you without
being obvious.

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I've seen that stunt a few times. I'm not sure the point of showing it
but math teachers love to demonstrate it for some reason.


Thanks,
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 Careful, I recall a math professor in my differential equations class
 or maybe it was higher throwing a proof up on the board showing that 1

 +
1
 != 2
 and it wasn't a numberical base trick

 I didn't follow through it, I just closed my eyes and shook my head
and
 thought forward to my communications class as the sights were easier
on
 the
 eyes...

 I still wonder why I went into a field with such a high ratio of men
to
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 999,998 + 2 = 1,000,000, not 100,000. ;-)

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  Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: wikis
 
 
   It's funny how we quote wikis as definitive sources of
information,
   when they can be edited by anyone and everyone :)
  
   Who vets the edits and how much does that person know about the
   subject matter??
 
  Anyone can edit, which is why they are generally correct.
  When 100,000 people view a record, and 2 people want to change it to

  be incorrect,
  999,998 will want to correct it.
 
  I wouldn't use a wiki as a great historical or technical source.
  But for encyclopedia entries, which give a good summation of a
  subject, they are great.
 
 
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RE: [ActiveDir] Configuring Logon Hours in time execution

2006-10-11 Thread joe
Title: Configuring Logon Hours in time execution



This is, to my knowledge, an unpublished blob. However I 
seem to recall it was not very difficult to break apart. 

Your real problem is doing that in _vbscript_ because quite 
frankly, _vbscript_ sucks for things like this (as well as many other things). I 
would, in your shoes, go out into the public AD newsgroups and start looking for 
posts by Richard Mueller as he is one of the best for pulling stuff off in 
_vbscript_ in relation to AD out there. 

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Hours in time execution

Hi everybody, 
 I need to configure the logon hour option of the user object in my 
_vbscript_. I know it is possible by copy but I need to give more flexibility in 
hour configuration. Somebody can help me?
 Any suggestion will be appreciated. 
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RE: [ActiveDir] Discovering LDAPS availability

2006-10-11 Thread joe
Not really. Certainly it is an option as would any normal AD attribute
(existing or you create), but you would end up binding to a DC to search it
to find a DC to bind to. A DNS record makes the most sense as you simply ask
for the site/domain specific LDAPS record, just like you do for LDAP.
Probably be good to implement a GCS as well.

  joe 


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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Discovering LDAPS availability

In this context, would it make sense to write/use a servicePrincipalName
value? (maybe even using admod/adfind  8-)  )

Mike Thommes

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The alternate solution I previously mentioned to David and his cohorts
in
crime was a distasteful but functional solution of writing their own
service
or script to register the records based on that script/service querying
the
DCs and getting their LDAPS capability at any given point and then being
aware that there will be some level of latency there.

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The project that I'm working on makes heavy use of LDAPS.  However, at
the 
moment, we favour the latter statement - the built DCs don't leave
staging

until the certs are pulled.  They must be signed off, and that's one of
the 
last items on the deployment check list.

We'll probably automate this check soon, but we're too busy with
automating 
the buillds at the moment.

Personally, I like the idea of _ldaps SRV RRs.  Although I can
appreciate 
there's a bit more to it from MSFTs point of view than simply getting 
NETLOGON to register them in DNS.


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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Discovering LDAPS availability


 Hmm doesn't look like anyone else has figured this out or just doesn't
 deploy LDAPS or alternately makes sure every DC is capable of LDAPS.


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 joe's absolutely right.  What's trying to be
 accomplished is to publish new LDAPS SRV records for a
 300+ DC environment.  But I don't want to just blindly
 assume each DC properly enrolled with the CA (we had
 problems like that at the beginning), and I'd really
 like to avoid the overhead of touching each DC.
 Unfortunately, that's about the only viable method I
 see.

 We have a DCR in with MS to change the behavior so
 that the DCs automatically publish LDAPS if it's
 available.  But what we're hearing right now is that
 it's probably not in the pipeline until LH SP1.

 --- joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 LDAPS records aren't published by DCs, only LDAP
 records. I can assure you
 if it were that easy, David wouldn't have had an
 issue. From what I have
 seen, if a secure LDAP connection is required, the
 internal routines from
 MSFT simply locate a DC and go to the port. If LDAPS
 isn't hot, the
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 Couldn't you just query the DNS for the SRV record
 advertising it...

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RE: [ActiveDir] Account migration within the same Forest...

2006-10-11 Thread joe
Title: Account migration within the same Forest...



AdMod will do it.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
RMSent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 5:46 PMTo: 
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] Account migration 
within the same Forest...

Hi all, are there any simple 3rd party tools forcopying a 
useraccount from one domain to another within the same forest? ADMT 
is overkill and it does way more than I want/need it to do. All I need is 
a copy of the account and for SIDhistory to be populated.


Thanks!
RM



RE: [ActiveDir] OT: A short and sweet KB

2006-10-11 Thread joe



Dmitri... for you I am tempted... I am not sure how well 
the MVP program would treat me afterward though... Maybe if I can somehow do it 
with Dean's credentials...


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dmitri 
GavrilovSent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 5:59 PMTo: 
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: A short and 
sweet KB


Do 
you mind writing a KB with the following content:

Whatever 
you are trying to do is not supported.

It 
would be a great KB to refer folks to. I really need it quite often. I would 
memorize the KB number. Hell, I would include it into my 
signature.



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On Behalf Of joeSent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 2:21 
PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] 
OT: A short and sweet KB

LOL that 
is great... 

I have 
thought about using my MVP Super Powers to write small KBs like that in the past 
so I could point at it for people to read when I said something simple that 
isn't specifically documented but they wanted to see documents on Microsoft's 
site stating what I said... In the end I didn't do it because, well it just 
doesn't seem right. ;)

 
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From: 
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On Behalf Of Al MulnickSent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 9:37 
AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: Re: [ActiveDir] 
OT: A short and sweet KB
It's tough to decide what to do 
with so much information. The symptoms or introduction section really does 
overload one's information bucket. :)

On 10/9/06, Susan Bradley, CPA aka 
Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

Do not run a service by using a service account that belongs 
to adifferent domain:http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=925099--Letting 
your vendors set your risk analysis these days? http://www.threatcode.comIf you are 
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RE: [ActiveDir] OT: A short and sweet KB

2006-10-11 Thread joe
Admin: It hurts when I do this...
MSKB: Stop doing that. 


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Or a corrolary KB to that one:

What you are trying to do is downright foolish.  Please stop.

On 10/10/06, Dmitri Gavrilov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 Do you mind writing a KB with the following content:



 Whatever you are trying to do is not supported.



 It would be a great KB to refer folks to. I really need it quite often. I
 would memorize the KB number. Hell, I would include it into my signature.




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 joe
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 LOL that is great...



 I have thought about using my MVP Super Powers to write small KBs like
that
 in the past so I could point at it for people to read when I said
something
 simple that isn't specifically documented but they wanted to see documents
 on Microsoft's site stating what I said... In the end I didn't do it
 because, well it just doesn't seem right. ;)



   joe




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 Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: A short and sweet KB

 It's tough to decide what to do with so much information.  The symptoms or
 introduction section really does overload one's information bucket. :)


 On 10/9/06, Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Do not run a service by using a service account that belongs to a
 different domain:
 http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=925099

 --
 Letting your vendors set your risk analysis these days?
 http://www.threatcode.com

 If you are a SBSer and you don't subscribe to the SBS Blog... man ... I
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RE: [ActiveDir] OT: wikis

2006-10-11 Thread Steve Egan \(Temp\)
Ummm, what's 6 X 9 ??

Steve Egan
Purcell Systems
System/Network Administrator
desk 509 755-0341 x110
cell 509 475-7682
fax 509 755-0345

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Guido
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 6:45 PM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: wikis

So, where would the ant be 5 seconds after the box started to tumble,
assuming it walks at 1 inch per hour (really slow ant). I'd really like
to
know :-)

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 11:41 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: wikis

And also, IMO, to help people realize they should question established
thought patterns.

I found it interesting that you teach math to children yet you don't get
enough math until pretty well into university that you can understand
how it
actually works.

Mostly though I found the story problems fun, like when you have to
build an
equation that will give you the point in space at any given point in
time
where an ant is if he is walking towards the center of a 78 RPM record
at x
inches per hour that is in a box that is tumbling at some fixed interval
falling off the edge of the grand canyon. Completely worthless in terms
useful info but a great mental exercise type problem.


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken Cornetet
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 10:05 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: wikis

They like it because it shows that division by zero can bite you without
being obvious.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Desmond
Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 4:41 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: wikis

I've seen that stunt a few times. I'm not sure the point of showing it
but math teachers love to demonstrate it for some reason.


Thanks,
Brian Desmond
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

c - 312.731.3132


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:ActiveDir-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe
 Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 2:22 PM
 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: wikis

 Careful, I recall a math professor in my differential equations class
 or maybe it was higher throwing a proof up on the board showing that 1

 +
1
 != 2
 and it wasn't a numberical base trick

 I didn't follow through it, I just closed my eyes and shook my head
and
 thought forward to my communications class as the sights were easier
on
 the
 eyes...

 I still wonder why I went into a field with such a high ratio of men
to
 women... :)


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 http://www.joeware.net/win/ad3e.htm


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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laura A.
 Robinson
 Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 12:55 PM
 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: wikis

 999,998 + 2 = 1,000,000, not 100,000. ;-)

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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Nims
  Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 11:49 AM
  To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
  Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: wikis
 
 
   It's funny how we quote wikis as definitive sources of
information,
   when they can be edited by anyone and everyone :)
  
   Who vets the edits and how much does that person know about the
   subject matter??
 
  Anyone can edit, which is why they are generally correct.
  When 100,000 people view a record, and 2 people want to change it to

  be incorrect,
  999,998 will want to correct it.
 
  I wouldn't use a wiki as a great historical or technical source.
  But for encyclopedia entries, which give a good summation of a
  subject, they are great.
 
 
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RE: [ActiveDir] Groups membership question

2006-10-11 Thread joe



The users from Domain B in the Domain A groups will be 
represented as FSPs (remember you are outside of your forest). So there will be 
no direct linkage capability to do this in any single 
query.

In order to find thememberships of a Domain B 
user(userDomB) in Domain A,you will need to find the FSP 
foruserDomB in Domain A and then look at the memberships of that FSP. This 
you can either do by looking at the memberof attribute of the FSP or doing a 
query against Domain B.

So you could do something like

adfind -b DN_FOR_DOM_A-f name=userDomB_SID 
memberof


You always hear that SIDs go into groups and that is what 
is stored, yes, except for AD groups, those store DNs, that is why you can add 
OU's or Contacts or printers or any kind of object you want to an AD group but 
can't do the same on a machine that uses a registry based SAM DB and why you 
have to use FSPs for references to objects outside of the local 
forest.

 joe


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aaron 
SteeleSent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 4:19 PMTo: 
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] Groups membership 
question


I have one for you guys. I have been puzzling over for a 
while. Seems simple, but I havent found a good solution.

Domain A one way trusts Domain B

Group in Domain A, contains members from Domain 
B.

Enumerate groups in Domain A, include membership for all 
members in Domain B.
Or for the real answer. Find user in Domain B, and tell 
me all group memberships from Domain A and Domain B.

Any ideas? Ive tried adfind queries, Ive visited the 
windows scripting center and am at a loss.

Thanks for your help.

/aaron

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RE: [ActiveDir] Account becomes disabled by DCs when it logs in.

2006-10-11 Thread joe



Ok I expect you mean it gets disabled, not 
deleted.

What happens if you try to logon to the account normally or 
with an ldap bind? I.E. If the service isn't involved, what 
happens?



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt 
HargravesSent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 9:47 PMTo: 
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] Account becomes 
disabled by DCs when it logs in.
This is a non-interactive account, but when the service that uses the 
account goes to login to the PDC emulators, the account gets 
deleted.This is only happening to 1 account, we have deleted and 
recreated the account, have created a new account with the same name (and 
rights) after renaming the old account, no matter what we do the account (call 
it disableduser for simplicity's sake), it gets disabled every time it tries to 
do what it does. Oh yeah, the account was running for well over a year 
without a problem. The PDC emulators are Win2k running in a 2003 mixed 
mode environment (our backup and auditing tools don't support our 64-bit 2003 
DCs yet, waiting on those to be updated before moving the roles over to a 2003 
DC) and the GPOs on the Domain Controllers OU haven't changed in quite some time 
(or at the domain level). The account hasn't expired and every time the 
account logs in (non-interactively), the DC Service account (servername$) 
disables the account with a 642 event and *not* a 629 event. I've banged 
my head against this for a day or so and figured I'd fire off something here 
before calling MS. This is a service-type account and changing the name 
would take a lot of time adjusting the environment to reflect the new 
name. Is there some MS patch that might be biting us in the rear that may 
have been applied in the last 2-3 weeks? I'm just kinda baffled on this, 
never seen a DC disable an account for apparently no reason. 


Re: [ActiveDir] OT: wikis

2006-10-11 Thread Laura E. Hunter

In base 13.

On 10/11/06, Steve Egan (Temp) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Ummm, what's 6 X 9 ??

Steve Egan
Purcell Systems
System/Network Administrator
desk 509 755-0341 x110
cell 509 475-7682
fax 509 755-0345

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Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 4:17 PM
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Grillenmeier,
Guido
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 6:45 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: wikis

So, where would the ant be 5 seconds after the box started to tumble,
assuming it walks at 1 inch per hour (really slow ant). I'd really like
to
know :-)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 11:41 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: wikis

And also, IMO, to help people realize they should question established
thought patterns.

I found it interesting that you teach math to children yet you don't get
enough math until pretty well into university that you can understand
how it
actually works.

Mostly though I found the story problems fun, like when you have to
build an
equation that will give you the point in space at any given point in
time
where an ant is if he is walking towards the center of a 78 RPM record
at x
inches per hour that is in a box that is tumbling at some fixed interval
falling off the edge of the grand canyon. Completely worthless in terms
useful info but a great mental exercise type problem.


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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken Cornetet
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 10:05 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: wikis

They like it because it shows that division by zero can bite you without
being obvious.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Desmond
Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 4:41 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: wikis

I've seen that stunt a few times. I'm not sure the point of showing it
but math teachers love to demonstrate it for some reason.


Thanks,
Brian Desmond
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

c - 312.731.3132


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:ActiveDir-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe
 Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 2:22 PM
 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: wikis

 Careful, I recall a math professor in my differential equations class
 or maybe it was higher throwing a proof up on the board showing that 1

 +
1
 != 2
 and it wasn't a numberical base trick

 I didn't follow through it, I just closed my eyes and shook my head
and
 thought forward to my communications class as the sights were easier
on
 the
 eyes...

 I still wonder why I went into a field with such a high ratio of men
to
 women... :)


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 O'Reilly Active Directory Third Edition -
 http://www.joeware.net/win/ad3e.htm


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laura A.
 Robinson
 Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 12:55 PM
 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: wikis

 999,998 + 2 = 1,000,000, not 100,000. ;-)

  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Nims
  Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 11:49 AM
  To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
  Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: wikis
 
 
   It's funny how we quote wikis as definitive sources of
information,
   when they can be edited by anyone and everyone :)
  
   Who vets the edits and how much does that person know about the
   subject matter??
 
  Anyone can edit, which is why they are generally correct.
  When 100,000 people view a record, and 2 people want to change it to

  be incorrect,
  999,998 will want to correct it.
 
  I wouldn't use a wiki as a great historical or technical source.
  But for encyclopedia entries, which give a good summation of a
  subject, they are great.
 
 
  List info   : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx
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[ActiveDir] RE: [ActiveDir] OT: wikis

2006-10-11 Thread Tim Vander Kooi
Richard Nixon?

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Egan
(Temp)
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 6:43 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: wikis

Ummm, what's 6 X 9 ??

Steve Egan
Purcell Systems
System/Network Administrator
desk 509 755-0341 x110
cell 509 475-7682
fax 509 755-0345

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 4:17 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: wikis

42 


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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Grillenmeier,
Guido
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 6:45 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: wikis

So, where would the ant be 5 seconds after the box started to tumble,
assuming it walks at 1 inch per hour (really slow ant). I'd really like
to
know :-)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 11:41 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: wikis

And also, IMO, to help people realize they should question established
thought patterns.

I found it interesting that you teach math to children yet you don't get
enough math until pretty well into university that you can understand
how it
actually works.

Mostly though I found the story problems fun, like when you have to
build an
equation that will give you the point in space at any given point in
time
where an ant is if he is walking towards the center of a 78 RPM record
at x
inches per hour that is in a box that is tumbling at some fixed interval
falling off the edge of the grand canyon. Completely worthless in terms
useful info but a great mental exercise type problem.


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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken Cornetet
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 10:05 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: wikis

They like it because it shows that division by zero can bite you without
being obvious.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Desmond
Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 4:41 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: wikis

I've seen that stunt a few times. I'm not sure the point of showing it
but math teachers love to demonstrate it for some reason.


Thanks,
Brian Desmond
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

c - 312.731.3132


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:ActiveDir-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe
 Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 2:22 PM
 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: wikis

 Careful, I recall a math professor in my differential equations class
 or maybe it was higher throwing a proof up on the board showing that 1

 +
1
 != 2
 and it wasn't a numberical base trick

 I didn't follow through it, I just closed my eyes and shook my head
and
 thought forward to my communications class as the sights were easier
on
 the
 eyes...

 I still wonder why I went into a field with such a high ratio of men
to
 women... :)


 --
 O'Reilly Active Directory Third Edition -
 http://www.joeware.net/win/ad3e.htm


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laura A.
 Robinson
 Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 12:55 PM
 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: wikis

 999,998 + 2 = 1,000,000, not 100,000. ;-)

  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Nims
  Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 11:49 AM
  To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
  Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: wikis
 
 
   It's funny how we quote wikis as definitive sources of
information,
   when they can be edited by anyone and everyone :)
  
   Who vets the edits and how much does that person know about the
   subject matter??
 
  Anyone can edit, which is why they are generally correct.
  When 100,000 people view a record, and 2 people want to change it to

  be incorrect,
  999,998 will want to correct it.
 
  I wouldn't use a wiki as a great historical or technical source.
  But for encyclopedia entries, which give a good summation of a
  subject, they are great.
 
 
  List info   : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx
  List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx
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RE: [ActiveDir] RE: [ActiveDir] OT: wikis

2006-10-11 Thread joe
AuH2O 


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Vander Kooi
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 8:54 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] RE: [ActiveDir] OT: wikis

Richard Nixon?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Egan
(Temp)
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 6:43 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: wikis

Ummm, what's 6 X 9 ??

Steve Egan
Purcell Systems
System/Network Administrator
desk 509 755-0341 x110
cell 509 475-7682
fax 509 755-0345

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 4:17 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: wikis

42 


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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Grillenmeier,
Guido
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 6:45 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: wikis

So, where would the ant be 5 seconds after the box started to tumble,
assuming it walks at 1 inch per hour (really slow ant). I'd really like
to
know :-)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 11:41 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: wikis

And also, IMO, to help people realize they should question established
thought patterns.

I found it interesting that you teach math to children yet you don't get
enough math until pretty well into university that you can understand
how it
actually works.

Mostly though I found the story problems fun, like when you have to
build an
equation that will give you the point in space at any given point in
time
where an ant is if he is walking towards the center of a 78 RPM record
at x
inches per hour that is in a box that is tumbling at some fixed interval
falling off the edge of the grand canyon. Completely worthless in terms
useful info but a great mental exercise type problem.


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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken Cornetet
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 10:05 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: wikis

They like it because it shows that division by zero can bite you without
being obvious.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Desmond
Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 4:41 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: wikis

I've seen that stunt a few times. I'm not sure the point of showing it
but math teachers love to demonstrate it for some reason.


Thanks,
Brian Desmond
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

c - 312.731.3132


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:ActiveDir-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe
 Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 2:22 PM
 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: wikis

 Careful, I recall a math professor in my differential equations class
 or maybe it was higher throwing a proof up on the board showing that 1

 +
1
 != 2
 and it wasn't a numberical base trick

 I didn't follow through it, I just closed my eyes and shook my head
and
 thought forward to my communications class as the sights were easier
on
 the
 eyes...

 I still wonder why I went into a field with such a high ratio of men
to
 women... :)


 --
 O'Reilly Active Directory Third Edition -
 http://www.joeware.net/win/ad3e.htm


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laura A.
 Robinson
 Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 12:55 PM
 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: wikis

 999,998 + 2 = 1,000,000, not 100,000. ;-)

  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Nims
  Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 11:49 AM
  To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
  Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: wikis
 
 
   It's funny how we quote wikis as definitive sources of
information,
   when they can be edited by anyone and everyone :)
  
   Who vets the edits and how much does that person know about the
   subject matter??
 
  Anyone can edit, which is why they are generally correct.
  When 100,000 people view a record, and 2 people want to change it to

  be incorrect,
  999,998 will want to correct it.
 
  I wouldn't use a wiki as a great historical or technical source.
  But for encyclopedia entries, which give a good summation of a
  subject, they are great.
 
 
  List info   : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx
  List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx
  List archive: 

Re: [ActiveDir] OT: WSS and AD. WebPart user information. How to configure IIS so my asp script can change user's attr in AD

2006-10-11 Thread Joe Kaplan
See, I told you the security was the hard part.  :) This is no different in 
.NET.


Like I said, the first thing to decide is whether you want to use trusted 
subsystem or delegation as your security architecture.  That will determine 
the settings to use and any additional configuration.


Remember that in ASP, impersonation is ALWAYS on (you can't disable it like 
you can in .NET), so your code will not execute with the permissions of the 
process account, only the authenticated user.


The authenticated user will either be the anonymous IIS user (if you have 
anonymous checked) or the browser user if you are using IWA or Basic.  By 
default, the anonymous user is a local machine account, so you can't use 
that to access AD.  You'd need to change that to a service account.  That 
would give you a trusted subsystem.


Another way to create a trusted subsystem is to just pass in plaintext 
credentials to ADSI (using OpenDSObject and the equivalent in ADO).  This 
allows you to avoid dealing with the from the Windows security perspective.


If you want to use the authenticated user's credentials and use IWA, you 
must get Kerberos delegation working like Tomasz said.  This is fun.  :)


Joe K.

- Original Message - 
From: Tomasz Onyszko [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 4:19 PM
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: WSS and AD. WebPart user information. How to 
configure IIS so my asp script can change user's attr in AD




Ramon Linan wrote:

 I decided to go with asp, I exclude a path from SharePoint and use asp,
that will make things easier at first.

Now the problem that I am having is, how do I configure IIS so the
authenticated users can see/modify some of their attributes in AD?

If I use the default AD IUSR for that server (IUSR_servername, in the
directory security under anonymous access, that user cant change things
in AD, but I cant use an administrator account neither for security
reason...so how should I configure IIS so it lets query and change
user's attributes in AD?


You have two options:
1. Configure IIS application pool with account which will have rights to 
modify attributes in AD


2. Use Kerberos delegation to impersonate user and make changes in 
security context of user who is logged on to web page

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/810572/


ad.1. The problem is that You have to put some control mechanisms in place 
on web page to protect users from changing other users details etc. as in 
this model Your application pool account is capable of making changes to 
objects and attributes. This is controlled via ACLs on directory object


ad.2 in this case You are using  user's context to access DS and to make 
changes to attributes which user has right to access. With Windows 2003 
You can use constrained Kerberos delgation. When You wil use delegation 
just remember that sensitive accounts (like Ent. Admins, domain admins) 
should not be allowed to be delgated (this is option for AD account).


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