RE: [ActiveDir] Who needs that much ram anyway?

2007-01-17 Thread Grillenmeier, Guido
So you might have had a bit too much of the Microsoft Cool-Aid :)  Exchange 
2007 may not have memory limits that you'd reach - but there are limits as to 
what makes sense to use with E2k7 (32GB are being communicated by MSFT).

And of course there are limits as to how much memory a 64bit OS supports: 
theoretically you could address a max of 16 exa-bytes with a 64bit address 
space, that is 16 billion GB... - however, the 64bit Windows OSs only support 
up to 16 TB virtual address space (split half/half for kernel and user memory) 
and only up to 1TB RAM (will increase to 2TB with SP2). Don't misunderstand the 
term only here, since there isn't much Windows hardware out there that can 
cope with more than 1TB of RAM right now anyways.  Not to say that these are 
any limits that you'd reach anytime soon with Exchange 2007.

Note that the /3GB switch is not supported on Windows 64bit Oss - there is no 
reason to use it either, since both the virtual kernel and the user-memory are 
increased dramatically (up to 8 TB each).

The /3GB switch is used on 32bit boxes to influence how the max of 4GB virtual 
memory that is addressable by 32bit is split up between kernel and user memory 
- you increase the user memory (used by apps such as Exchange) at the cost of 
reducing the kernel memory.  This is no longer required with 64bit boxes...

/Guido

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Brunson
Sent: Dienstag, 16. Januar 2007 23:48
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Who needs that much ram anyway?

Judging by the Exchange 2007 Microsoft Across America Launch Event that
I attended this morning, Exchange 2007 has no limits period.  If you
want it to block spam, it blocks spam.  If you want it to run with a
2000TB store on Standard, it will do it.  If you want it to cook you
breakfast, that might require the /baconandeggs switch, but it should be
able to do that as well.  The /baconandeggs switch might be
undocumented...

Seriously though, I know PAE is not supported on 64-bit, and I think I
remember reading that /3GB is required on 64-bit OS

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jose Medeiros
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 4:04 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] Who needs that much ram anyway?

What about the 3Gb switch in the boot.in that is required to take
advantage
of the additional memory.
Also depending on the age of the server and CPU, you may also need a PAE
/
AWE switch.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/283037

Since the final realease of Exchange 2007 will only be 64 bit and
require a
64 bit version of Windows 2003 or Longhorn, I am not sure if the switch
will
be required, any one else know?

Jose


- Original Message -
From: Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 8:47 AM
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: Who needs that much ram anyway?


 Personally I was surprised that a Windows 2003 server and Exchange
2007
 would need a patch to run more than 4 gigs because
 This problem occurs because of a problem in the Windows kernel

 Seems to me in the x64 era, we're all going to be running more than 4
gigs
 so they should bundle this up in the Exchange 2007 installer from the
get
 go rather than having everyone stumble across a KB article.

 I'm assuming it's discussed in the readme that no one reads?


 Brian Desmond wrote:
 The more you can get in memory, the better. 32GB is the threshold for
 Exchange before it stops making sense.

 I've remoted into SQL servers with dozens of CPUs and dozens of gigs
of
 ram before...

 Thanks,
 Brian Desmond
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 c - 312.731.3132



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 Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Who needs that much ram anyway?


   The Microsoft Exchange Information Store service stops responding
on
 a
   computer that is running Windows Server 2003 and Exchange Server

 2007

 http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=928368

 This problem occurs if Exchange Server 2007 is installed on a
computer
 that has more than 4 gigabytes (GB) of RAM.

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[ActiveDir] Who needs that much ram anyway?

2007-01-16 Thread Jose Medeiros
What about the 3Gb switch in the boot.in that is required to take advantage 
of the additional memory.
Also depending on the age of the server and CPU, you may also need a PAE / 
AWE switch.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/283037

Since the final realease of Exchange 2007 will only be 64 bit and require a 
64 bit version of Windows 2003 or Longhorn, I am not sure if the switch will 
be required, any one else know?


Jose


- Original Message - 
From: Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 8:47 AM
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: Who needs that much ram anyway?


Personally I was surprised that a Windows 2003 server and Exchange 2007 
would need a patch to run more than 4 gigs because

This problem occurs because of a problem in the Windows kernel

Seems to me in the x64 era, we're all going to be running more than 4 gigs 
so they should bundle this up in the Exchange 2007 installer from the get 
go rather than having everyone stumble across a KB article.


I'm assuming it's discussed in the readme that no one reads?


Brian Desmond wrote:

The more you can get in memory, the better. 32GB is the threshold for
Exchange before it stops making sense.

I've remoted into SQL servers with dozens of CPUs and dozens of gigs of
ram before...

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

c - 312.731.3132




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SBS Rocks [MVP]
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 4:01 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Who needs that much ram anyway?


  The Microsoft Exchange Information Store service stops responding on
a
  computer that is running Windows Server 2003 and Exchange Server


2007


http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=928368

This problem occurs if Exchange Server 2007 is installed on a computer
that has more than 4 gigabytes (GB) of RAM.

List info   : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx
List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx
List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx


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will hunt you down...

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RE: [ActiveDir] Who needs that much ram anyway?

2007-01-16 Thread Kevin Brunson
Judging by the Exchange 2007 Microsoft Across America Launch Event that
I attended this morning, Exchange 2007 has no limits period.  If you
want it to block spam, it blocks spam.  If you want it to run with a
2000TB store on Standard, it will do it.  If you want it to cook you
breakfast, that might require the /baconandeggs switch, but it should be
able to do that as well.  The /baconandeggs switch might be
undocumented...

Seriously though, I know PAE is not supported on 64-bit, and I think I
remember reading that /3GB is required on 64-bit OS

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jose Medeiros
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 4:04 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] Who needs that much ram anyway?

What about the 3Gb switch in the boot.in that is required to take
advantage 
of the additional memory.
Also depending on the age of the server and CPU, you may also need a PAE
/ 
AWE switch.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/283037

Since the final realease of Exchange 2007 will only be 64 bit and
require a 
64 bit version of Windows 2003 or Longhorn, I am not sure if the switch
will 
be required, any one else know?

Jose


- Original Message - 
From: Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 8:47 AM
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: Who needs that much ram anyway?


 Personally I was surprised that a Windows 2003 server and Exchange
2007 
 would need a patch to run more than 4 gigs because
 This problem occurs because of a problem in the Windows kernel

 Seems to me in the x64 era, we're all going to be running more than 4
gigs 
 so they should bundle this up in the Exchange 2007 installer from the
get 
 go rather than having everyone stumble across a KB article.

 I'm assuming it's discussed in the readme that no one reads?


 Brian Desmond wrote:
 The more you can get in memory, the better. 32GB is the threshold for
 Exchange before it stops making sense.

 I've remoted into SQL servers with dozens of CPUs and dozens of gigs
of
 ram before...

 Thanks,
 Brian Desmond
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 c - 312.731.3132



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:ActiveDir-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz
-
 SBS Rocks [MVP]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 4:01 AM
 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
 Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Who needs that much ram anyway?


   The Microsoft Exchange Information Store service stops responding
on
 a
   computer that is running Windows Server 2003 and Exchange Server

 2007

 http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=928368

 This problem occurs if Exchange Server 2007 is installed on a
computer
 that has more than 4 gigabytes (GB) of RAM.

 List info   : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx
 List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx
 List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx

 List info   : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx
 List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx
 List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx



 -- 
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 http://www.threatcode.com

 If you are a SBSer and you don't subscribe to the SBS Blog... man ...
I 
 will hunt you down...
 http://blogs.technet.com/sbs

 List info   : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx
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RE: [ActiveDir] Who needs that much ram anyway?

2007-01-16 Thread Kevin Brunson
Sorry, that was supposed to say NOT required

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Brunson
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 4:48 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Who needs that much ram anyway?

Judging by the Exchange 2007 Microsoft Across America Launch Event that
I attended this morning, Exchange 2007 has no limits period.  If you
want it to block spam, it blocks spam.  If you want it to run with a
2000TB store on Standard, it will do it.  If you want it to cook you
breakfast, that might require the /baconandeggs switch, but it should be
able to do that as well.  The /baconandeggs switch might be
undocumented...

Seriously though, I know PAE is not supported on 64-bit, and I think I
remember reading that /3GB is required on 64-bit OS

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jose Medeiros
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 4:04 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] Who needs that much ram anyway?

What about the 3Gb switch in the boot.in that is required to take
advantage 
of the additional memory.
Also depending on the age of the server and CPU, you may also need a PAE
/ 
AWE switch.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/283037

Since the final realease of Exchange 2007 will only be 64 bit and
require a 
64 bit version of Windows 2003 or Longhorn, I am not sure if the switch
will 
be required, any one else know?

Jose


- Original Message - 
From: Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 8:47 AM
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: Who needs that much ram anyway?


 Personally I was surprised that a Windows 2003 server and Exchange
2007 
 would need a patch to run more than 4 gigs because
 This problem occurs because of a problem in the Windows kernel

 Seems to me in the x64 era, we're all going to be running more than 4
gigs 
 so they should bundle this up in the Exchange 2007 installer from the
get 
 go rather than having everyone stumble across a KB article.

 I'm assuming it's discussed in the readme that no one reads?


 Brian Desmond wrote:
 The more you can get in memory, the better. 32GB is the threshold for
 Exchange before it stops making sense.

 I've remoted into SQL servers with dozens of CPUs and dozens of gigs
of
 ram before...

 Thanks,
 Brian Desmond
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 c - 312.731.3132



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:ActiveDir-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz
-
 SBS Rocks [MVP]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 4:01 AM
 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
 Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Who needs that much ram anyway?


   The Microsoft Exchange Information Store service stops responding
on
 a
   computer that is running Windows Server 2003 and Exchange Server

 2007

 http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=928368

 This problem occurs if Exchange Server 2007 is installed on a
computer
 that has more than 4 gigabytes (GB) of RAM.

 List info   : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx
 List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx
 List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx

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 If you are a SBSer and you don't subscribe to the SBS Blog... man ...
I 
 will hunt you down...
 http://blogs.technet.com/sbs

 List info   : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx
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RE: [ActiveDir] Who needs that much ram anyway?

2007-01-16 Thread Bernard, Aric
My understanding is as follows:

All three switches address the 32-bit architecture only.
Exchange has never supported AWE.
Exchange 2007 has RTM'd.


Aric

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jose Medeiros
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 2:04 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] Who needs that much ram anyway?

What about the 3Gb switch in the boot.in that is required to take advantage
of the additional memory.
Also depending on the age of the server and CPU, you may also need a PAE /
AWE switch.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/283037

Since the final realease of Exchange 2007 will only be 64 bit and require a
64 bit version of Windows 2003 or Longhorn, I am not sure if the switch will
be required, any one else know?

Jose


- Original Message -
From: Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 8:47 AM
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: Who needs that much ram anyway?


 Personally I was surprised that a Windows 2003 server and Exchange 2007
 would need a patch to run more than 4 gigs because
 This problem occurs because of a problem in the Windows kernel

 Seems to me in the x64 era, we're all going to be running more than 4 gigs
 so they should bundle this up in the Exchange 2007 installer from the get
 go rather than having everyone stumble across a KB article.

 I'm assuming it's discussed in the readme that no one reads?


 Brian Desmond wrote:
 The more you can get in memory, the better. 32GB is the threshold for
 Exchange before it stops making sense.

 I've remoted into SQL servers with dozens of CPUs and dozens of gigs of
 ram before...

 Thanks,
 Brian Desmond
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 c - 312.731.3132



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:ActiveDir-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz -
 SBS Rocks [MVP]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 4:01 AM
 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
 Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Who needs that much ram anyway?


   The Microsoft Exchange Information Store service stops responding on
 a
   computer that is running Windows Server 2003 and Exchange Server

 2007

 http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=928368

 This problem occurs if Exchange Server 2007 is installed on a computer
 that has more than 4 gigabytes (GB) of RAM.

 List info   : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx
 List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx
 List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx

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 If you are a SBSer and you don't subscribe to the SBS Blog... man ... I
 will hunt you down...
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RE: [ActiveDir] Who needs that much ram anyway?

2007-01-16 Thread Akomolafe, Deji
One little addition:

There is a 32-bit version of E2K7, although it neither intended to be used in 
production, nor supported if choose to ignore the caveat.


Sincerely, 
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From: Bernard, Aric
Sent: Tue 1/16/2007 5:07 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir]  Who needs that much ram anyway?


My understanding is as follows:

All three switches address the 32-bit architecture only.
Exchange has never supported AWE.
Exchange 2007 has RTM'd.


Aric

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jose Medeiros
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 2:04 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] Who needs that much ram anyway?

What about the 3Gb switch in the boot.in that is required to take advantage
of the additional memory.
Also depending on the age of the server and CPU, you may also need a PAE /
AWE switch.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/283037

Since the final realease of Exchange 2007 will only be 64 bit and require a
64 bit version of Windows 2003 or Longhorn, I am not sure if the switch will
be required, any one else know?

Jose


- Original Message -
From: Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 8:47 AM
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: Who needs that much ram anyway?


 Personally I was surprised that a Windows 2003 server and Exchange 2007
 would need a patch to run more than 4 gigs because
 This problem occurs because of a problem in the Windows kernel

 Seems to me in the x64 era, we're all going to be running more than 4 gigs
 so they should bundle this up in the Exchange 2007 installer from the get
 go rather than having everyone stumble across a KB article.

 I'm assuming it's discussed in the readme that no one reads?


 Brian Desmond wrote:
 The more you can get in memory, the better. 32GB is the threshold for
 Exchange before it stops making sense.

 I've remoted into SQL servers with dozens of CPUs and dozens of gigs of
 ram before...

 Thanks,
 Brian Desmond
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 c - 312.731.3132



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:ActiveDir-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz -
 SBS Rocks [MVP]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 4:01 AM
 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
 Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Who needs that much ram anyway?


   The Microsoft Exchange Information Store service stops responding on
 a
   computer that is running Windows Server 2003 and Exchange Server

 2007

 http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=928368

 This problem occurs if Exchange Server 2007 is installed on a computer
 that has more than 4 gigabytes (GB) of RAM.

 List info   : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx
 List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx
 List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx

 List info   : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx
 List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx
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 --
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 If you are a SBSer and you don't subscribe to the SBS Blog... man ... I
 will hunt you down...
 http://blogs.technet.com/sbs

 List info   : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx
 List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx
 List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx

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RE: [ActiveDir] Who needs that much ram anyway?

2007-01-16 Thread Michael B. Smith
And performance of same is quite poor. There are a few feature removals
as well.



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Akomolafe, Deji
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 8:26 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Who needs that much ram anyway?


One little addition:
 
There is a 32-bit version of E2K7, although it neither intended to be
used in production, nor supported if choose to ignore the caveat.
 

Sincerely, 
   _
  (, /  |  /)   /) /)   
/---| (/_  __   ___// _   //  _ 
 ) /|_/(__(_) // (_(_)(/_(_(_/(__(/_
(_/ /)  
   (/   
Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
www.akomolafe.com x-excid://3277/uri:http://www.akomolafe.com  -
we know IT
-5.75, -3.23
Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about
Yesterday? -anon



From: Bernard, Aric
Sent: Tue 1/16/2007 5:07 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir]  Who needs that much ram anyway?


My understanding is as follows:

All three switches address the 32-bit architecture only.
Exchange has never supported AWE.
Exchange 2007 has RTM'd.


Aric

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jose Medeiros
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 2:04 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] Who needs that much ram anyway?

What about the 3Gb switch in the boot.in that is required to take
advantage
of the additional memory.
Also depending on the age of the server and CPU, you may also need a PAE
/
AWE switch.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/283037

Since the final realease of Exchange 2007 will only be 64 bit and
require a
64 bit version of Windows 2003 or Longhorn, I am not sure if the switch
will
be required, any one else know?

Jose


- Original Message -
From: Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
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To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 8:47 AM
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: Who needs that much ram anyway?


 Personally I was surprised that a Windows 2003 server and Exchange
2007
 would need a patch to run more than 4 gigs because
 This problem occurs because of a problem in the Windows kernel

 Seems to me in the x64 era, we're all going to be running more than 4
gigs
 so they should bundle this up in the Exchange 2007 installer from the
get
 go rather than having everyone stumble across a KB article.

 I'm assuming it's discussed in the readme that no one reads?


 Brian Desmond wrote:
 The more you can get in memory, the better. 32GB is the threshold for
 Exchange before it stops making sense.

 I've remoted into SQL servers with dozens of CPUs and dozens of gigs
of
 ram before...

 Thanks,
 Brian Desmond
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 c - 312.731.3132



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 Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 4:01 AM
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 Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Who needs that much ram anyway?


   The Microsoft Exchange Information Store service stops responding
on
 a
   computer that is running Windows Server 2003 and Exchange Server

 2007

 http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=928368

 This problem occurs if Exchange Server 2007 is installed on a
computer
 that has more than 4 gigabytes (GB) of RAM.

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