RE: [ActiveDir] DNS Scavenging and DHCP Lease Expiration Times

2003-09-03 Thread Roger Seielstad
Title: Message



Actually, we do run redundant DHCP, and I'm contemplating adding a third 
DHCP box to the mix.
 
Although I will admit DHCP has an uncanny ability to dish out the same 
address to the same box, even when running multiple servers.
 
Roger
-- 
Roger D. Seielstad - 
MTS MCSE MS-MVP Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis Inc. 


  
  -Original Message-From: Joe 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 
  7:01 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: 
  [ActiveDir] DNS Scavenging and DHCP Lease Expiration 
Times
  
  It 
  is fine until the time DHCP doesn't respond. :op
   
  I 
  would expect though unless you have way more nodes than IP addresses you will 
  find people getting the same IP's over and over. My laptop seems to get the 
  same three IP addresses in the three locations I go to (home building wired, 
  dev building wireless, dev building wired). 
   
  

-Original Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roger 
SeielstadSent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 11:22 AMTo: 
'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DNS 
Scavenging and DHCP Lease Expiration Times
 
Actually, I advocate the shorter 
the better, but my environment is predominantly laptops. Between people 
moving across our subnets, and more often people taking their laptops onto 
home networks (or other corporate networks, as the case may be). The net 
effect is that every time the clients change networks, they basically lose 
the ability to recover their prior lease (at least 50% of the time, if the 
DHCP server isn't entirely brain dead). At that point, you've got a lot of 
leases that are left hangling.
Then again, there is precious 
little traffic generated in DHCP transactions, so a short lease time isn't 
buying a significant jump in network traffic, either.
-- 
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE 
MS-MVP Sr. Systems 
Administrator Inovis 
Inc. 
>  -Original 
Message- > From: 
    Joe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2003 9:31 AM > To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject:  RE: [ActiveDir] DNS Scavenging and DHCP Lease 
> Expiration Times > > None to me either. > > However 
that DHCP lease time seems short. How many DHCP > servers do you have per site? With that lease time 
you should > probably 
have a couple or a guarantee to be able to not have > an outage of the server greater than 3 
days or more > 
preferably (to me) more than 1.5 days - lease half-life. > > About the only time I would recommend to anyone to 
go below > 7-14 days on 
lease times is if they are trying to switch > values for some of the networking components 
through DHCP. > 
> What is the idea 
behind the 3 day lease time? > >    joe > > 

  >  -Original Message- > From:     
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]  On Behalf 
  Of > Rick Kingslan 
  > Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2003 12:32 PM > To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject:  RE: [ActiveDir] DNS Scavenging and DHCP Lease 
  > Expiration Times > > None that occur to me off the top of my head. > > Rick Kingslan  MCSE, MCSA, MCT > Microsoft MVP - Active Directory > Associate Expert > Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone 
  >  > > > 
  _ > From: 
      [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]  On Behalf 
  Of Marcus Oh > Sent: Friday, 
  August 29, 2003 4:56 PM > 
  To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject:  [ActiveDir] DNS Scavenging and DHCP Lease 
  > Expiration Times > > Hey folks, > > Our DNS 
  scavenging cycle is 7 days.  Our DHCP leases expire > every 3 days.  Are there any 
  notable drawbacks or problems in > changing the DNS scavenging time period to match 
  the DHCP > lease 
  expiration time period?>> Thanks! > > Marcus 



RE: [ActiveDir] DNS Scavenging and DHCP Lease Expiration Times

2003-09-03 Thread Marcus Oh
Title: Message









Thanks Todd… very helpful! 
So it sounds like we have the reverse going on… J

 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Todd Povilaitis
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003
8:00 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DNS
Scavenging and DHCP Lease Expiration Times

 



If DHCP returns an IP address to the pool
for re-use before the A records are scavenged, then multiple A records will
resolve to the same address until scavenging comes along.  DHCP only
manages the PTR records.





 





This is not a problem if your clients
initiate all of the connections (or "pull" everything to
them).  However, the reverse is not true.  If you wish to poll your
desktops and servers (or "push" a connection onto them), then you may
not be attaching to the machine that you think you are when you attempt to
resolve names.  This is because multiple host names are resolving to the
same IP address.





 





I've run into to this
situation while working on a data warehousing app
which connects to each machine in the environment to retrieve WMI
class attribute values and store them in a central SQL
repository.  The solution would appear to be: set the
zone "no-refresh" period to 24 hours (1 day), set the zone
"refresh" period to 48 hours (2 days), and set the server scavenging
interval to 72 hours (3 days).





 




 no-refresh
 - reduces replication traffic for multiple reboots which typically
 occur when a machine is new.
 refresh
 - accounts for the possiblity that one client may refresh its A
 record at 00:01 while another may refresh its A record at
 23:59.  A 48 hour offset is needed to capture this behavior and
 eliminate the possibility of scavenging valid A records.




 





Finally, the using the default DHCP
lease of 8 days,  the lease would come up for renewal at 96 hours (4
days), and lease expiration would occur at 192 hours (8 days).  In any
case, no A record could have the same IP address.





 





Hope this angle is helpful.





 





__ 
Todd Povilaitis 
LAN
Administrator 
Huntington
Hospital 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Phone:
(626) 397-3392 
Fax:
(626) 397-2901 





-Original Message-
From: Joe
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003
16:01
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DNS
Scavenging and DHCP Lease Expiration Times









It is fine until the time DHCP doesn't
respond. :op





 





I would expect though unless you have way
more nodes than IP addresses you will find people getting the same IP's over
and over. My laptop seems to get the same three IP addresses in the three
locations I go to (home building wired, dev building wireless, dev building
wired). 





 





-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roger Seielstad
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003
11:22 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DNS
Scavenging and DHCP Lease Expiration Times

 

Actually, I advocate the shorter the better, but
my environment is predominantly laptops. Between people moving across our
subnets, and more often people taking their laptops onto home networks (or
other corporate networks, as the case may be). The net effect is that every
time the clients change networks, they basically lose the ability to recover
their prior lease (at least 50% of the time, if the DHCP server isn't entirely
brain dead). At that point, you've got a lot of leases that are left hangling.

Then again, there is precious little traffic
generated in DHCP transactions, so a short lease time isn't buying a
significant jump in network traffic, either.

--

Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP 
Sr. Systems Administrator 
Inovis Inc. 

> 
-Original
Message- 
> From:    
Joe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2003 9:31 AM

> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> Subject: 
RE:
[ActiveDir] DNS Scavenging and DHCP Lease 
>
Expiration Times 
> 
> None to me either. 
> 
> However that DHCP lease time seems short. How many DHCP 
> servers do you have per site? With that lease time you
should 
> probably have a couple or a guarantee to be able to not
have 
> an outage of the server greater than 3 days or more 
> preferably (to me) more than 1.5 days - lease half-life.

> 
> About the only time I would recommend to anyone to go
below 
> 7-14 days on lease times is if they are trying to switch

> values for some of the networking components through
DHCP. 
> 
> What is the idea behind the 3 day lease time?

> 
>    joe 
> 
> 

>  -Original Message-

> From:    
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

>
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]  On Behalf Of

>
Rick Kingslan 
> Sent: Saturday, August 30, 20

Re: [ActiveDir] DNS Scavenging and DHCP Lease Expiration Times

2003-09-03 Thread Graham Turner
Title: Message



but what about the "discard forward lookup when lease expires" 
??
 
have never got to the bottom of this given the security of the 
A record which in default DHCP configuration is owned by the client 
??
 
GT
 
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Todd Povilaitis 

  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 1:00 
  AM
  Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DNS Scavenging 
  and DHCP Lease Expiration Times
  
  If 
  DHCP returns an IP address to the pool for re-use before the A records are 
  scavenged, then multiple A records will resolve to the same address until 
  scavenging comes along.  DHCP only manages the PTR 
  records.
   
  This 
  is not a problem if your clients initiate all of the connections 
  (or "pull" everything to them).  However, the reverse is not 
  true.  If you wish to poll your desktops and servers (or "push" a 
  connection onto them), then you may not be attaching to the machine that you 
  think you are when you attempt to resolve names.  This is because 
  multiple host names are resolving to the same IP address.
   
  I've 
  run into to this situation while working on a data 
  warehousing app which connects to each machine in the environment to 
  retrieve WMI class attribute values and store them in a central 
  SQL repository.  The solution would appear to be: set the 
  zone "no-refresh" period to 24 hours (1 day), set the zone "refresh" 
  period to 48 hours (2 days), and set the server scavenging interval to 72 
  hours (3 days).
   
  
no-refresh - reduces replication traffic for multiple reboots 
which typically occur when a machine is new. 
refresh - accounts for the possiblity that one client may 
refresh its A record at 00:01 while another may refresh its A 
record at 23:59.  A 48 hour offset is needed to capture this behavior 
and eliminate the possibility of scavenging valid A 
records.
   
  Finally, the using the default DHCP lease of 8 days,  the 
  lease would come up for renewal at 96 hours (4 days), and lease expiration 
  would occur at 192 hours (8 days).  In any case, no A record could have 
  the same IP address.
   
  Hope 
  this angle is helpful.
   
  __ Todd 
  Povilaitis LAN Administrator 
  Huntington Hospital [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: (626) 397-3392 Fax: (626) 
  397-2901 
  
-Original Message-From: Joe 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 
    16:01To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: 
    [ActiveDir] DNS Scavenging and DHCP Lease Expiration 
Times

It 
is fine until the time DHCP doesn't respond. :op
 
I 
would expect though unless you have way more nodes than IP addresses you 
will find people getting the same IP's over and over. My laptop seems to get 
the same three IP addresses in the three locations I go to (home building 
wired, dev building wireless, dev building wired). 
 

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roger 
  SeielstadSent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 11:22 
  AMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: 
  [ActiveDir] DNS Scavenging and DHCP Lease Expiration 
  Times
   
  Actually, I advocate the shorter 
  the better, but my environment is predominantly laptops. Between people 
  moving across our subnets, and more often people taking their laptops onto 
  home networks (or other corporate networks, as the case may be). The net 
  effect is that every time the clients change networks, they basically lose 
  the ability to recover their prior lease (at least 50% of the time, if the 
  DHCP server isn't entirely brain dead). At that point, you've got a lot of 
  leases that are left hangling.
  Then again, there is precious 
  little traffic generated in DHCP transactions, so a short lease time isn't 
  buying a significant jump in network traffic, either.
  -- 
  Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE 
  MS-MVP Sr. Systems 
  Administrator Inovis 
  Inc. 
  >  -Original Message- > From:     
  Joe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 
  Sunday, August 31, 2003 9:31 AM 
  > To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject:  
  RE: [ActiveDir] DNS Scavenging and DHCP Lease 
  > Expiration Times > > None to me either. > > However 
  that DHCP lease time seems short. How many DHCP > servers do you have per site? With 
  that lease time you should > probably have a couple or a guarantee to be able to not have 
  > an outage of the 
  server greater than 3 days or more > preferably (to me) more than 1.5 days - lease 
  half-life. > 
  > About the only time 
  I would re

RE: [ActiveDir] DNS Scavenging and DHCP Lease Expiration Times

2003-09-02 Thread Todd Povilaitis
Title: Message



If 
DHCP returns an IP address to the pool for re-use before the A records are 
scavenged, then multiple A records will resolve to the same address until 
scavenging comes along.  DHCP only manages the PTR 
records.
 
This 
is not a problem if your clients initiate all of the connections (or "pull" 
everything to them).  However, the reverse is not true.  If you wish 
to poll your desktops and servers (or "push" a connection onto them), then you 
may not be attaching to the machine that you think you are when you attempt to 
resolve names.  This is because multiple host names are resolving to the 
same IP address.
 
I've 
run into to this situation while working on a data 
warehousing app which connects to each machine in the environment to 
retrieve WMI class attribute values and store them in a central 
SQL repository.  The solution would appear to be: set the 
zone "no-refresh" period to 24 hours (1 day), set the zone "refresh" period 
to 48 hours (2 days), and set the server scavenging interval to 72 hours (3 
days).
 

  no-refresh - reduces replication traffic for multiple reboots 
  which typically occur when a machine is new.
  refresh - accounts for the possiblity that one client may 
  refresh its A record at 00:01 while another may refresh its A record 
  at 23:59.  A 48 hour offset is needed to capture this behavior and 
  eliminate the possibility of scavenging valid A records.
 
Finally, the using the default DHCP lease of 8 days,  the lease 
would come up for renewal at 96 hours (4 days), and lease expiration would occur 
at 192 hours (8 days).  In any case, no A record could have the same IP 
address.
 
Hope 
this angle is helpful.
 
__ Todd 
Povilaitis LAN Administrator 
Huntington Hospital [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: (626) 397-3392 Fax: (626) 
397-2901 

  -Original Message-From: Joe 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 
  16:01To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: 
  [ActiveDir] DNS Scavenging and DHCP Lease Expiration 
Times
  
  It 
  is fine until the time DHCP doesn't respond. :op
   
  I 
  would expect though unless you have way more nodes than IP addresses you will 
  find people getting the same IP's over and over. My laptop seems to get the 
  same three IP addresses in the three locations I go to (home building wired, 
  dev building wireless, dev building wired). 
   
  

-Original Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roger 
SeielstadSent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 11:22 AMTo: 
    '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DNS 
Scavenging and DHCP Lease Expiration Times
 
Actually, I advocate the shorter 
the better, but my environment is predominantly laptops. Between people 
moving across our subnets, and more often people taking their laptops onto 
home networks (or other corporate networks, as the case may be). The net 
effect is that every time the clients change networks, they basically lose 
the ability to recover their prior lease (at least 50% of the time, if the 
DHCP server isn't entirely brain dead). At that point, you've got a lot of 
leases that are left hangling.
Then again, there is precious 
little traffic generated in DHCP transactions, so a short lease time isn't 
buying a significant jump in network traffic, either.
-- 
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE 
MS-MVP Sr. Systems 
Administrator Inovis 
Inc. 
>  -Original 
Message- > From: 
    Joe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2003 9:31 AM > To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject:  RE: [ActiveDir] DNS Scavenging and DHCP Lease 
> Expiration Times > > None to me either. > > However 
that DHCP lease time seems short. How many DHCP > servers do you have per site? With that lease time 
you should > probably 
have a couple or a guarantee to be able to not have > an outage of the server greater than 3 
days or more > 
preferably (to me) more than 1.5 days - lease half-life. > > About the only time I would recommend to anyone to 
go below > 7-14 days on 
lease times is if they are trying to switch > values for some of the networking components 
through DHCP. > 
> What is the idea 
behind the 3 day lease time? > >    joe > > 

  >  -Original Message- > From:     
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]  On Behalf 
  Of > Rick Kingslan 
  > Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2003 12:32 PM > To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject:  RE: [ActiveDir] DNS Scavenging and DHCP Lease 
  > Expiration Times > > None th

RE: [ActiveDir] DNS Scavenging and DHCP Lease Expiration Times

2003-09-02 Thread Joe
Title: Message




It is 
fine until the time DHCP doesn't respond. :op
 
I 
would expect though unless you have way more nodes than IP addresses you will 
find people getting the same IP's over and over. My laptop seems to get the same 
three IP addresses in the three locations I go to (home building wired, dev 
building wireless, dev building wired). 
 

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  On Behalf Of Roger SeielstadSent: Tuesday, September 02, 
  2003 11:22 AMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: 
  RE: [ActiveDir] DNS Scavenging and DHCP Lease Expiration 
  Times
   
  Actually, I advocate the shorter the 
  better, but my environment is predominantly laptops. Between people moving 
  across our subnets, and more often people taking their laptops onto home 
  networks (or other corporate networks, as the case may be). The net effect is 
  that every time the clients change networks, they basically lose the ability 
  to recover their prior lease (at least 50% of the time, if the DHCP server 
  isn't entirely brain dead). At that point, you've got a lot of leases that are 
  left hangling.
  Then again, there is precious little 
  traffic generated in DHCP transactions, so a short lease time isn't buying a 
  significant jump in network traffic, either.
  -- 
  Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE 
  MS-MVP Sr. Systems 
  Administrator Inovis 
  Inc. 
  >  -Original 
  Message- > From: 
      Joe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > 
  Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2003 9:31 
  AM > To:   
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject:  
  RE: [ActiveDir] DNS Scavenging and DHCP Lease 
  > Expiration Times > > 
  None to me either. > 
  > However that DHCP lease 
  time seems short. How many DHCP > servers do you have per site? With that lease time you should 
  > probably have a couple 
  or a guarantee to be able to not have > an outage of the server greater than 3 days or more 
  > preferably (to me) more 
  than 1.5 days - lease half-life. > > About the 
  only time I would recommend to anyone to go below > 7-14 days on lease times is if they are trying to 
  switch > values for some 
  of the networking components through DHCP. > > What is the idea behind the 3 day lease time? > >    joe > > 
  
>  -Original 
Message- > From: 
    [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]  On Behalf 
    Of > Rick Kingslan 
    > Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2003 12:32 PM > To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject:  RE: [ActiveDir] DNS Scavenging and DHCP Lease 
> Expiration Times > > None that occur to me off the top of my head. > > 
Rick Kingslan  MCSE, MCSA, MCT > 
Microsoft MVP - Active Directory > 
Associate Expert > Expert Zone - 
www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone 
>  > > > 
_ > From: 
    [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]  On Behalf 
Of Marcus Oh > Sent: Friday, 
August 29, 2003 4:56 PM > 
To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject:  [ActiveDir] DNS Scavenging and DHCP Lease 
> Expiration Times > > Hey folks, > > Our DNS 
scavenging cycle is 7 days.  Our DHCP leases expire > every 3 days.  Are there any 
notable drawbacks or problems in > changing the DNS scavenging time period to match the DHCP 
> lease expiration time 
period?>> Thanks! > > 
Marcus 


RE: [ActiveDir] DNS Scavenging and DHCP Lease Expiration Times

2003-09-02 Thread Roger Seielstad
Title: RE: [ActiveDir] DNS Scavenging and DHCP Lease Expiration Times








Actually, I advocate the shorter the better, but my environment is predominantly laptops. Between people moving across our subnets, and more often people taking their laptops onto home networks (or other corporate networks, as the case may be). The net effect is that every time the clients change networks, they basically lose the ability to recover their prior lease (at least 50% of the time, if the DHCP server isn't entirely brain dead). At that point, you've got a lot of leases that are left hangling.

Then again, there is precious little traffic generated in DHCP transactions, so a short lease time isn't buying a significant jump in network traffic, either.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


>  -Original Message-
> From:     Joe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2003 9:31 AM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  RE: [ActiveDir] DNS Scavenging and DHCP Lease 
> Expiration Times
> 
> None to me either.
> 
> However that DHCP lease time seems short. How many DHCP 
> servers do you have per site? With that lease time you should 
> probably have a couple or a guarantee to be able to not have 
> an outage of the server greater than 3 days or more 
> preferably (to me) more than 1.5 days - lease half-life. 
> 
> About the only time I would recommend to anyone to go below 
> 7-14 days on lease times is if they are trying to switch 
> values for some of the networking components through DHCP.
> 
> What is the idea behind the 3 day lease time?
> 
>    joe
> 
> 

>  -Original Message-
> From:     [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]  On Behalf Of 
> Rick Kingslan
> Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2003 12:32 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  RE: [ActiveDir] DNS Scavenging and DHCP Lease 
> Expiration Times
> 
> None that occur to me off the top of my head.
> 
> Rick Kingslan  MCSE, MCSA, MCT
> Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
> Associate Expert
> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>  
> 
> 
> _ 
> From:     [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]  On Behalf Of Marcus Oh
> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 4:56 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  [ActiveDir] DNS Scavenging and DHCP Lease 
> Expiration Times
> 
> Hey folks,
> 
> Our DNS scavenging cycle is 7 days.  Our DHCP leases expire 
> every 3 days.  Are there any notable drawbacks or problems in 
> changing the DNS scavenging time period to match the DHCP 
> lease expiration time period?
>
> Thanks!
> 
> Marcus





RE: [ActiveDir] DNS Scavenging and DHCP Lease Expiration Times

2003-08-31 Thread Marcus Oh
We generally have two DHCP servers per site.  The 3 day lease was instituted
2 or 3 years ago... maybe longer... when we had a very limited amount of IP
addresses that could be assigned - basically ran out of them too often and
had to clear out leases.  We have more than enough now though.  That's
something to consider... raising DHCP lease times instead of lowering DNS
scavenging times.

Thanks Joe...

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2003 9:31 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DNS Scavenging and DHCP Lease Expiration Times

None to me either.

However that DHCP lease time seems short. How many DHCP servers do you have
per site? With that lease time you should probably have a couple or a
guarantee to be able to not have an outage of the server greater than 3 days
or more preferably (to me) more than 1.5 days - lease half-life. 

About the only time I would recommend to anyone to go below 7-14 days on
lease times is if they are trying to switch values for some of the
networking components through DHCP.

What is the idea behind the 3 day lease time?

   joe


 -Original Message-
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  On Behalf Of Rick Kingslan
Sent:   Saturday, August 30, 2003 12:32 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:RE: [ActiveDir] DNS Scavenging and DHCP Lease
Expiration Times

None that occur to me off the top of my head.

Rick Kingslan  MCSE, MCSA, MCT
Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
 


_ 
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  On Behalf Of Marcus Oh
Sent:   Friday, August 29, 2003 4:56 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:[ActiveDir] DNS Scavenging and DHCP Lease Expiration
Times

Hey folks,

Our DNS scavenging cycle is 7 days.  Our DHCP leases expire every 3
days.  Are there any notable drawbacks or problems in changing the DNS
scavenging time period to match the DHCP lease expiration time period?

Thanks!

Marcus
<>

RE: [ActiveDir] DNS Scavenging and DHCP Lease Expiration Times

2003-08-31 Thread Joe
None to me either.

However that DHCP lease time seems short. How many DHCP servers do you have
per site? With that lease time you should probably have a couple or a
guarantee to be able to not have an outage of the server greater than 3 days
or more preferably (to me) more than 1.5 days - lease half-life. 

About the only time I would recommend to anyone to go below 7-14 days on
lease times is if they are trying to switch values for some of the
networking components through DHCP.

What is the idea behind the 3 day lease time?

   joe


>  -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  On Behalf Of Rick Kingslan
> Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2003 12:32 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:      RE: [ActiveDir] DNS Scavenging and DHCP Lease Expiration
> Times
> 
> None that occur to me off the top of my head.
> 
> Rick Kingslan  MCSE, MCSA, MCT
> Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
> Associate Expert
> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>  
> 
> 
> _ 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  On Behalf Of Marcus Oh
> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 4:56 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  [ActiveDir] DNS Scavenging and DHCP Lease Expiration Times
> 
> Hey folks,
> 
> Our DNS scavenging cycle is 7 days.  Our DHCP leases expire every 3 days.
> Are there any notable drawbacks or problems in changing the DNS scavenging
> time period to match the DHCP lease expiration time period?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Marcus
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RE: [ActiveDir] DNS Scavenging and DHCP Lease Expiration Times

2003-08-30 Thread Rick Kingslan
Anytime!  :-)

Rick Kingslan  MCSE, MCSA, MCT
Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
 


> _ 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  On Behalf Of Marcus Oh
> Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2003 3:39 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:      RE: [ActiveDir] DNS Scavenging and DHCP Lease Expiration
> Times
> 
> Thanks for the assistance Rick!  :-)
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Kingslan
> Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2003 12:32 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DNS Scavenging and DHCP Lease Expiration Times
> 
> None that occur to me off the top of my head.
> 
> Rick Kingslan  MCSE, MCSA, MCT
> Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
> Associate Expert
> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>  
> 
> 
> _ 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  On Behalf Of Marcus Oh
> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 4:56 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  [ActiveDir] DNS Scavenging and DHCP Lease Expiration Times
> 
> Hey folks,
> 
> Our DNS scavenging cycle is 7 days.  Our DHCP leases expire every 3 days.
> Are there any notable drawbacks or problems in changing the DNS scavenging
> time period to match the DHCP lease expiration time period?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Marcus
<>

RE: [ActiveDir] DNS Scavenging and DHCP Lease Expiration Times

2003-08-30 Thread Marcus Oh
Thanks for the assistance Rick!  :-)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Kingslan
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2003 12:32 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DNS Scavenging and DHCP Lease Expiration Times

None that occur to me off the top of my head.

Rick Kingslan  MCSE, MCSA, MCT
Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
 


_ 
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  On Behalf Of Marcus Oh
Sent:   Friday, August 29, 2003 4:56 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:[ActiveDir] DNS Scavenging and DHCP Lease Expiration Times

Hey folks,

Our DNS scavenging cycle is 7 days.  Our DHCP leases expire every 3 days.
Are there any notable drawbacks or problems in changing the DNS scavenging
time period to match the DHCP lease expiration time period?

Thanks!

Marcus
<>

RE: [ActiveDir] DNS Scavenging and DHCP Lease Expiration Times

2003-08-30 Thread Rick Kingslan
None that occur to me off the top of my head.

Rick Kingslan  MCSE, MCSA, MCT
Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
 


> _ 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  On Behalf Of Marcus Oh
> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 4:56 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:      [ActiveDir] DNS Scavenging and DHCP Lease Expiration Times
> 
> Hey folks,
> 
> Our DNS scavenging cycle is 7 days.  Our DHCP leases expire every 3 days.
> Are there any notable drawbacks or problems in changing the DNS scavenging
> time period to match the DHCP lease expiration time period?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Marcus
<>

[ActiveDir] DNS Scavenging and DHCP Lease Expiration Times

2003-08-29 Thread Marcus Oh
Hey folks,

Our DNS scavenging cycle is 7 days.  Our DHCP leases expire every 3 days.
Are there any notable drawbacks or problems in changing the DNS scavenging
time period to match the DHCP lease expiration time period?

Thanks!

Marcus
<>