RE: [ActiveDir] Determining active user accounts

2005-06-18 Thread Webster
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> Hunter, Laura E.
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Determining active user accounts
> 
> (I'm big on the equations today for some reason.)

Comes from working on your Masters in CS probably. :)


Webster


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RE: [ActiveDir] Determining active user accounts

2005-06-17 Thread joe
Yes, oldcmp will disable accounts if you would like it to.

I would also recommend possibly moving the accounts that aren't normally
used into some OU set up for that purpose. 



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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Determining active user accounts

Additionally, if it were me and if you've not done so already, I'd disable
all of those unused accounts while I was counting.  (oldcmp does this as
well, no?)

Many unused accounts + at least one or two that have probably never changed
from some default (or blank) password = monstrous attack vector waiting to
happen.

(I'm big on the equations today for some reason.)

- Laura

> -Original Message-
> From: Creamer, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 4:56 PM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Determining active user accounts
> 
> Thanks Laura, good suggestion. I forgot I could use oldcmp for users 
> as well. Great tool, Joe.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> 
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> E.
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 3:56 PM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Determining active user accounts
> 
> Wouldn't the accounts that don't need server access show up as 
> inactive if you ran them through joe's 'oldcmp'?  If so, then couldn't 
> you get a fair approximation from:
> 
> CALs required = [Total user objects] - [user objects flagged by 
> oldcmp]
> 
> ?
> 
> [Insert standard "Call your reseller for definitive licensing advice"
> disclaimer here.]
> 
> - Laura
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Creamer, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 3:40 PM
> > To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> > Subject: [ActiveDir] Determining active user accounts
> > 
> > We need to get a count of users that are active, so we can make sure 
> > our purchasing of 2003 User CALs is as accurate as possible. 
> > However, every employee of the company has an account in Active 
> > Directory, but only a certain percentage of those users ever access 
> > a server or need to authenticate.
> > What's the best way to determine how many users we need to have a 
> > User CAL for?
> > 
> > Mark Creamer
> > 
> > Systems Engineer
> > 
> > Cintas Corporation
> > 
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RE: [ActiveDir] Determining active user accounts

2005-06-17 Thread joe
Glad you like it. 

  joe 

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Thanks Laura, good suggestion. I forgot I could use oldcmp for users as
well. Great tool, Joe.

Thanks



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hunter, Laura E.
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 3:56 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Determining active user accounts

Wouldn't the accounts that don't need server access show up as inactive if
you ran them through joe's 'oldcmp'?  If so, then couldn't you get a fair
approximation from:

CALs required = [Total user objects] - [user objects flagged by oldcmp]

?

[Insert standard "Call your reseller for definitive licensing advice"
disclaimer here.]

- Laura

> -Original Message-
> From: Creamer, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 3:40 PM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: [ActiveDir] Determining active user accounts
> 
> We need to get a count of users that are active, so we can make sure 
> our purchasing of 2003 User CALs is as accurate as possible. However, 
> every employee of the company has an account in Active Directory, but 
> only a certain percentage of those users ever access a server or need 
> to authenticate.
> What's the best way to determine how many users we need to have a User 
> CAL for?
> 
> Mark Creamer
> 
> Systems Engineer
> 
> Cintas Corporation
> 
> 
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RE: [ActiveDir] Determining active user accounts

2005-06-16 Thread Hunter, Laura E.
Additionally, if it were me and if you've not done so already, I'd
disable all of those unused accounts while I was counting.  (oldcmp does
this as well, no?)

Many unused accounts + at least one or two that have probably never
changed from some default (or blank) password = monstrous attack vector
waiting to happen.

(I'm big on the equations today for some reason.)

- Laura

> -Original Message-
> From: Creamer, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 4:56 PM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Determining active user accounts
> 
> Thanks Laura, good suggestion. I forgot I could use oldcmp 
> for users as well. Great tool, Joe.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Hunter, Laura E.
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 3:56 PM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Determining active user accounts
> 
> Wouldn't the accounts that don't need server access show up 
> as inactive
> if you ran them through joe's 'oldcmp'?  If so, then couldn't 
> you get a
> fair approximation from:
> 
> CALs required = [Total user objects] - [user objects flagged 
> by oldcmp]
> 
> ?
> 
> [Insert standard "Call your reseller for definitive licensing advice"
> disclaimer here.]
> 
> - Laura
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Creamer, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 3:40 PM
> > To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> > Subject: [ActiveDir] Determining active user accounts
> > 
> > We need to get a count of users that are active, so we can 
> > make sure our purchasing of 2003 User CALs is as accurate as 
> > possible. However, every employee of the company has an 
> > account in Active Directory, but only a certain percentage of 
> > those users ever access a server or need to authenticate. 
> > What's the best way to determine how many users we need to 
> > have a User CAL for?
> > 
> > Mark Creamer
> > 
> > Systems Engineer
> > 
> > Cintas Corporation
> > 
> > 
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RE: [ActiveDir] Determining active user accounts

2005-06-16 Thread Creamer, Mark
Thanks Laura, good suggestion. I forgot I could use oldcmp for users as well. 
Great tool, Joe.

Thanks



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Hunter, Laura E.
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 3:56 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Determining active user accounts

Wouldn't the accounts that don't need server access show up as inactive
if you ran them through joe's 'oldcmp'?  If so, then couldn't you get a
fair approximation from:

CALs required = [Total user objects] - [user objects flagged by oldcmp]

?

[Insert standard "Call your reseller for definitive licensing advice"
disclaimer here.]

- Laura

> -Original Message-
> From: Creamer, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 3:40 PM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: [ActiveDir] Determining active user accounts
> 
> We need to get a count of users that are active, so we can 
> make sure our purchasing of 2003 User CALs is as accurate as 
> possible. However, every employee of the company has an 
> account in Active Directory, but only a certain percentage of 
> those users ever access a server or need to authenticate. 
> What's the best way to determine how many users we need to 
> have a User CAL for?
> 
> Mark Creamer
> 
> Systems Engineer
> 
> Cintas Corporation
> 
> 
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RE: [ActiveDir] Determining active user accounts

2005-06-16 Thread Hunter, Laura E.
Wouldn't the accounts that don't need server access show up as inactive
if you ran them through joe's 'oldcmp'?  If so, then couldn't you get a
fair approximation from:

CALs required = [Total user objects] - [user objects flagged by oldcmp]

?

[Insert standard "Call your reseller for definitive licensing advice"
disclaimer here.]

- Laura

> -Original Message-
> From: Creamer, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 3:40 PM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: [ActiveDir] Determining active user accounts
> 
> We need to get a count of users that are active, so we can 
> make sure our purchasing of 2003 User CALs is as accurate as 
> possible. However, every employee of the company has an 
> account in Active Directory, but only a certain percentage of 
> those users ever access a server or need to authenticate. 
> What's the best way to determine how many users we need to 
> have a User CAL for?
> 
> Mark Creamer
> 
> Systems Engineer
> 
> Cintas Corporation
> 
> 
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[ActiveDir] Determining active user accounts

2005-06-16 Thread Creamer, Mark
Title: Determining active user accounts






We need to get a count of users that are active, so we can make sure our purchasing of 2003 User CALs is as accurate as possible. However, every employee of the company has an account in Active Directory, but only a certain percentage of those users ever access a server or need to authenticate. What’s the best way to determine how many users we need to have a User CAL for?

Mark Creamer

Systems Engineer

Cintas Corporation





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