RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange, and SPAM filters or blacklist or...

2003-06-09 Thread Arendt, Jordan LRN
Title: Message









I've evaluated MailEssentials as
well (on my home network).  The nice
thing about it is that they have made the Blacklist feature free.  It will still work after the eval period
has expired.  They advertise it as
freeware.  However the subject and
keyword filtering doesn't continue to work after the eval.  It's a nice product, and I would
recommend it.  After it expired (and
I uninstalled it), my wife started complaining about all the spam she was
getting, so I guess it was working pretty well. J.

 

 

 

-Original Message-
From: Friese, Casey
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: June 9, 2003 6:38 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange,
and SPAM filters or blacklist or...

 



I'm
evaling GFI's MailEssential's and MailSecurity products as we speak.  Thus
far I've only had 3 false positives and they occured because I was agressively
filtering out any pieces of mail that had remote images tagged in them.





 





The
product is very stable and has 3 ways of detecting spam (headers, keywords and
blacklists) Each of the 3 ways are customizable.  The sweet part about the
MailEssentials sweet is that if you route mail out through the gateway, it
takes any address it finds in the To field and adds it to a Whitelist.  I
haven't used this function yet but in theory it should cut down on the false
positives...





 





The
MailSecurity piece is includes the same functionality as MailEssentials plus it
also does virus scanning using BitDefender, Norman, and McAfee.  It also
does e-mail exploit checking on messages as well as scanning on mails for
Trojan's and executables.  Checking can be set on incoming and outgoing
mails for HTML scripts and it can be configured to check compressed
attachments.  Everything is quarantine for review and can be release if
found legit.





-Original Message-
From: Craig Cerino
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:11 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange,
and SPAM filters or blacklist or...

The
biggest issue with Norton's SAVF is the fact that Exchange 2K handles
APIs on every message differently so you could end up with slip throughs as far as SPAM is concerned. (I got this info
directly from Symantec since we use it too)

 

We are
currently in the process of research for a better more encompassing tool.

 

-Original Message-
From: Bryan Schlegel
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 7:54 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange,
and SPAM filters or blacklist or...

 



Although
this thread has nothing to do with AD, right now I am using Norton Antivirus
for Exchange 2000, it allows you to filter some content and works pretty good
and is included with the product.  The only thing is it scans the entire
Exchange store for content and subject lines (but it is included in the
product), so sometimes it is a bit slow.  If I was put to the task of
protecting people from themselves and spam I'd be looking for a product that
only scans incoming messages.  Careful of keyword scanning though.  I
turned on the sexual content scanning and all of a sudden I started
loosing email.  The program was picking apart one of our clients names.





-Original Message-
From: Rob Freeman
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 7:46
AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Exchange,
and SPAM filters or blacklist or...



Depending on their budgets, here are
a few solutions:





 





If they can not spend a lot, go with
open relay filter.  Starting cost is $25 for the stardard version and
$99.00 for the enterprise version.  We use this with some of our smaller
clients.





 





http://www.vamsoft.com/orf/





 





If you want to add more features
then ORF, try xwall.  Has more ways to block spam and can include
anti-virus protection also.  Of course, since it has more features, it is
a little more at $349.00.





 





http://www.dataenter.co.at/products/xwall.htm





 





Rob Freeman





Fleetone





 







- Original Message - 





From: rick reynolds 





To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]






Sent: Saturday,
June 07, 2003 12:25 AM





Subject: [ActiveDir]
Exchange, and SPAM filters or blacklist or...





 





Does anyone have recommendations for
a Spam filter or black list service that works well.





I have a few clients that are
getting thousands of Spam messages a day. And need to 





know of what works well.





 





Rick Reynolds





MCSE 2000, CCNA, CISSP





 





 
















RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange, and SPAM filters or blacklist or...

2003-06-09 Thread Craig Cerino
Title: Message









For the most part, I like Symantec products
- - but do yourself a favor and save yourself a headache - - if you’re
using Exch 2K and you want to use SAVF don’t
just keep looking for something else.  Just
my 2 cents

 

-Original Message-
From: Robert Moir
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 9:06
AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange,
and SPAM filters or blacklist or...

 



Wow. This is like a list
of reasons not to touch symantec products. fwiw i'm using mailsweeper as a smtp
gateway, filtering incoming (and outgoing) messages for spam, viruses, other
undesirable stuff and it understands that just because i filtered
"Sex" as a banned word, that doesn't mean "Essex" should be
blocked too.



--
Robert Moir
Microsoft MVP
Senior IT Systems Engineer
Luton Sixth Form College
print chr(66) & chr(79) & chr(70) & chr(72)



 







 









From: Bryan
Schlegel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 09 June 2003 12:54
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Although this thread has
nothing to do with AD, right now I am using Norton Antivirus for Exchange 2000,
it allows you to filter some content and works pretty good and is included with
the product.  The only thing is it scans the entire Exchange store for
content and subject lines (but it is included in the product), so sometimes it
is a bit slow.  If I was put to the task of protecting
people from themselves and spam I'd be looking for a product that only scans
incoming messages.  Careful of keyword scanning though.  I turned on
the sexual content scanning and all of a sudden I started loosing
email.  The program was picking apart one of our clients names.



-Original Message-
From: Rob Freeman
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 7:46
AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Exchange,
and SPAM filters or blacklist or...



Depending on their budgets, here are
a few solutions:





 





If they can not spend a lot, go with
open relay filter.  Starting cost is $25 for the stardard version and
$99.00 for the enterprise version.  We use this with some of our smaller
clients.





 





http://www.vamsoft.com/orf/





 





If you want to add more features
then ORF, try xwall.  Has more ways to block spam and can include
anti-virus protection also.  Of course, since it has more features, it is
a little more at $349.00.





 





http://www.dataenter.co.at/products/xwall.htm





 





Rob Freeman





Fleetone





 







- Original Message - 





From: rick reynolds






To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]






Sent: Saturday,
June 07, 2003 12:25 AM





Subject: [ActiveDir]
Exchange, and SPAM filters or blacklist or...





 





Does anyone have recommendations for
a Spam filter or black list service that works well.





I have a few clients that are
getting thousands of Spam messages a day. And need to 





know of what works well.





 





Rick Reynolds





MCSE 2000, CCNA, CISSP





 





 
















RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange, and SPAM filters or blacklist or...

2003-06-09 Thread Robert Moir
Title: Message



Wow. 
This is like a list of reasons not to touch symantec products. fwiw i'm using 
mailsweeper as a smtp gateway, filtering incoming (and outgoing) messages for 
spam, viruses, other undesirable stuff and it understands that just because i 
filtered "Sex" as a banned word, that doesn't mean "Essex" should be blocked 
too.
--Robert MoirMicrosoft MVPSenior IT Systems 
EngineerLuton Sixth Form Collegeprint chr(66) & chr(79) & 
chr(70) & chr(72)
 

  
  
  
  From: Bryan Schlegel 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 June 2003 
  12:54To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  Although this thread has nothing to do with AD, right now 
  I am using Norton Antivirus for Exchange 2000, it allows you to filter some 
  content and works pretty good and is included with the product.  The only 
  thing is it scans the entire Exchange store for content and subject lines (but 
  it is included in the product), so sometimes it is a bit 
  slow.  If I was put to the task of protecting people 
  from themselves and spam I'd be looking for a product that only scans incoming 
  messages.  Careful of keyword scanning though.  I turned on 
  the sexual content scanning and all of a sudden I started loosing 
  email.  The program was picking apart one of our clients 
  names.
  

-Original Message-From: Rob Freeman 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 7:46 
AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: 
[ActiveDir] Exchange, and SPAM filters or blacklist 
or...
Depending on their budgets, here are a few 
solutions:
 
If they can not spend a lot, go with open relay 
filter.  Starting cost is $25 for the stardard version and $99.00 for 
the enterprise version.  We use this with some of our smaller 
clients.
 
http://www.vamsoft.com/orf/
 
If you want to add more features then ORF, try 
xwall.  Has more ways to block spam and can include anti-virus 
protection also.  Of course, since it has more features, it is a little 
more at $349.00.
 
http://www.dataenter.co.at/products/xwall.htm
 
Rob Freeman
Fleetone
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  rick 
  reynolds 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 12:25 
  AM
  Subject: [ActiveDir] Exchange, and 
  SPAM filters or blacklist or...
  
  Does anyone have recommendations for a Spam 
  filter or black list service that works well.
  I have a few clients that are getting 
  thousands of Spam messages a day. And need to 
  know of what works well.
   
  Rick Reynolds
  MCSE 2000, CCNA, CISSP
   
   


RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange, and SPAM filters or blacklist or...

2003-06-09 Thread Friese, Casey
Title: Message



I'm 
evaling GFI's MailEssential's and MailSecurity products as we speak.  Thus 
far I've only had 3 false positives and they occured because I was agressively 
filtering out any pieces of mail that had remote images tagged in 
them.
 
The 
product is very stable and has 3 ways of detecting spam (headers, keywords and 
blacklists) Each of the 3 ways are customizable.  The sweet part about the 
MailEssentials sweet is that if you route mail out through the gateway, it takes 
any address it finds in the To field and adds it to a Whitelist.  I haven't 
used this function yet but in theory it should cut down on the false 
positives...
 
The 
MailSecurity piece is includes the same functionality as MailEssentials plus it 
also does virus scanning using BitDefender, Norman, and McAfee.  It also 
does e-mail exploit checking on messages as well as scanning on mails for 
Trojan's and executables.  Checking can be set on incoming and outgoing 
mails for HTML scripts and it can be configured to check compressed 
attachments.  Everything is quarantine for review and can be release if 
found legit.

  -Original Message-From: Craig Cerino 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:11 
  AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: 
  [ActiveDir] Exchange, and SPAM filters or blacklist or...
  
  The biggest issue 
  with Norton’s SAVF is the fact 
  that Exchange 2K handles APIs on every message differently so you could end up 
  with slip throughs as 
  far as SPAM is concerned. (I got this info directly from Symantec since we use 
  it too)
   
  We are currently in 
  the process of research for a better more encompassing 
  tool.
   
  -Original 
  Message-From: Bryan 
  Schlegel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 7:54 
  AMTo: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange, and 
  SPAM filters or blacklist or...
   
  
  Although 
  this thread has nothing to do with AD, right now I am using Norton Antivirus 
  for Exchange 2000, it allows you to filter some content and works pretty good 
  and is included with the product.  The only thing is it scans the entire 
  Exchange store for content and subject lines (but it is included in the 
  product), so sometimes it is a bit slow.  If I was put to the 
  task of protecting people from themselves and spam I'd be looking for a 
  product that only scans incoming messages.  Careful of keyword scanning 
  though.  I turned on the sexual content scanning and all of a 
  sudden I started loosing email.  The program was picking apart one of our 
  clients names.
  
-Original 
Message-From: Rob 
Freeman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 7:46 
AMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Exchange, and 
SPAM filters or blacklist or...

Depending on their budgets, here 
are a few solutions:

 

If they can not spend a lot, go 
with open relay filter.  Starting cost is $25 for the stardard version 
and $99.00 for the enterprise version.  We use this with some of our 
smaller clients.

 

http://www.vamsoft.com/orf/

 

If you want to add more features 
then ORF, try xwall.  Has more ways to block spam and can include 
anti-virus protection also.  Of course, since it has more features, it 
is a little more at $349.00.

 

http://www.dataenter.co.at/products/xwall.htm

 

Rob 
Freeman

Fleetone

 

  
  - Original 
  Message - 
  
  From: rick 
  reynolds 
  
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  
  Sent: 
  Saturday, June 07, 2003 12:25 AM
  
  Subject: 
  [ActiveDir] Exchange, and SPAM filters or blacklist 
  or...
  
   
  
  Does anyone have 
  recommendations for a Spam filter or black list service that works 
  well.
  
  I have a few 
  clients that are getting thousands of Spam messages a day. And need to 
  
  
  know of what 
  works well.
  
   
  
  Rick 
  Reynolds
  
  MCSE 2000, 
  CCNA, CISSP
  
   
  
   


RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange, and SPAM filters or blacklist or...

2003-06-09 Thread Craig Cerino
Title: Message









The biggest issue with Norton’s
SAVF is the fact that Exchange 2K handles APIs on every message differently so
you could end up with slip throughs as far
as SPAM is concerned. (I got this info directly from Symantec since we use it
too)

 

We are currently in the process of
research for a better more encompassing tool.

 

-Original Message-
From: Bryan Schlegel
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 7:54
AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange,
and SPAM filters or blacklist or...

 



Although this thread has
nothing to do with AD, right now I am using Norton Antivirus for Exchange 2000,
it allows you to filter some content and works pretty good and is included with
the product.  The only thing is it scans the entire Exchange store for content
and subject lines (but it is included in the product), so sometimes it is a bit
slow.  If I was put to the task of protecting people from
themselves and spam I'd be looking for a product that only scans incoming
messages.  Careful of keyword scanning though.  I turned on
the sexual content scanning and all of a sudden I started loosing
email.  The program was picking apart one of our clients names.





-Original Message-
From: Rob Freeman
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 7:46
AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Exchange,
and SPAM filters or blacklist or...



Depending on their budgets, here are
a few solutions:





 





If they can not spend a lot, go with
open relay filter.  Starting cost is $25 for the stardard version and
$99.00 for the enterprise version.  We use this with some of our smaller
clients.





 





http://www.vamsoft.com/orf/





 





If you want to add more features
then ORF, try xwall.  Has more ways to block spam and can include
anti-virus protection also.  Of course, since it has more features, it is
a little more at $349.00.





 





http://www.dataenter.co.at/products/xwall.htm





 





Rob Freeman





Fleetone





 







- Original Message - 





From: rick reynolds






To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]






Sent: Saturday,
June 07, 2003 12:25 AM





Subject: [ActiveDir]
Exchange, and SPAM filters or blacklist or...





 





Does anyone have recommendations for
a Spam filter or black list service that works well.





I have a few clients that are
getting thousands of Spam messages a day. And need to 





know of what works well.





 





Rick Reynolds





MCSE 2000, CCNA, CISSP





 





 














RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange, and SPAM filters or blacklist or...

2003-06-09 Thread Bryan Schlegel
Title: Message



Although this thread has nothing to do with AD, right now I am using 
Norton Antivirus for Exchange 2000, it allows you to filter some content and 
works pretty good and is included with the product.  The only thing is it 
scans the entire Exchange store for content and subject lines (but it is 
included in the product), so sometimes it is a bit 
slow.  If I was put to the task of protecting people 
from themselves and spam I'd be looking for a product that only scans incoming 
messages.  Careful of keyword scanning though.  I turned on 
the sexual content scanning and all of a sudden I started loosing 
email.  The program was picking apart one of our clients 
names.

  
  -Original Message-From: Rob Freeman 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 7:46 
  AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: 
  [ActiveDir] Exchange, and SPAM filters or blacklist or...
  Depending on their budgets, here are a few 
  solutions:
   
  If they can not spend a lot, go with open relay 
  filter.  Starting cost is $25 for the stardard version and $99.00 for the 
  enterprise version.  We use this with some of our smaller 
  clients.
   
  http://www.vamsoft.com/orf/
   
  If you want to add more features then ORF, try 
  xwall.  Has more ways to block spam and can include anti-virus protection 
  also.  Of course, since it has more features, it is a little more at 
  $349.00.
   
  http://www.dataenter.co.at/products/xwall.htm
   
  Rob Freeman
  Fleetone
   
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
rick 
reynolds 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 12:25 
AM
Subject: [ActiveDir] Exchange, and SPAM 
filters or blacklist or...

Does anyone have recommendations for a Spam 
filter or black list service that works well.
I have a few clients that are getting thousands 
of Spam messages a day. And need to 
know of what works well.
 
Rick Reynolds
MCSE 2000, CCNA, CISSP
 
 


Re: [ActiveDir] Exchange, and SPAM filters or blacklist or...

2003-06-09 Thread Rob Freeman



Depending on their budgets, here are a few 
solutions:
 
If they can not spend a lot, go with open relay 
filter.  Starting cost is $25 for the stardard version and $99.00 for the 
enterprise version.  We use this with some of our smaller 
clients.
 
http://www.vamsoft.com/orf/
 
If you want to add more features then ORF, try 
xwall.  Has more ways to block spam and can include anti-virus protection 
also.  Of course, since it has more features, it is a little more at 
$349.00.
 
http://www.dataenter.co.at/products/xwall.htm
 
Rob Freeman
Fleetone
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  rick 
  reynolds 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 12:25 
  AM
  Subject: [ActiveDir] Exchange, and SPAM 
  filters or blacklist or...
  
  Does anyone have recommendations for a Spam 
  filter or black list service that works well.
  I have a few clients that are getting thousands 
  of Spam messages a day. And need to 
  know of what works well.
   
  Rick Reynolds
  MCSE 2000, CCNA, CISSP
   
   


RE: [ActiveDir] Exchange, and SPAM filters or blacklist or...

2003-06-09 Thread Roger Seielstad
Title: Message



Ahh, 
SPAM. I love it. I'll take yours!
 
Seriously, the only way to reduce the impact of spam on your network is 
to never accept it. Content filtering works to an extent, but that requires you 
to accept the mail, therefore taking the resource hit on your network. Not to 
mention, most spammers are finding ways around content filters 
anyway.
 
That 
means Realtime Blackhole lists, and these are a major double edged sword. On one 
hand, they stop a LOT of spam. On the other, they can stop a LOT of legitimate 
traffic. Of the ones out there, the best to date is Spamcop (http://spamcop.net). We're using it with great 
success, probably resulting in a 70% or more reduction in 
spam.
 
The 
other product (its free) that is looking very good is SpamAssassin. It uses a 
combination of techniques, and seems to be very stable as well. It uses a 
scoring system to determine what might or might not be spam, but does leave a 
lot of that up to the user as well.
 
Roger
-- 
Roger D. Seielstad - 
MTS MCSE MS-MVP Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis Inc. 


  
  -Original Message-From: rick reynolds 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 1:26 
  AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [ActiveDir] 
  Exchange, and SPAM filters or blacklist or...
  Does anyone have recommendations for a Spam 
  filter or black list service that works well.
  I have a few clients that are getting thousands 
  of Spam messages a day. And need to 
  know of what works well.
   
  Rick Reynolds
  MCSE 2000, CCNA, CISSP
   
   


Re: [ActiveDir] Exchange, and SPAM filters or blacklist or...

2003-06-07 Thread jim . katoe



Messagelabs--Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld  - Original Message -  From: ActiveDir-owner  Sent: 06/07/2003 01:25 AM  To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  Subject: [ActiveDir] Exchange, and SPAM filters or blacklist or...
Does anyone have recommendations for a Spam filter
or black list service that works well.
I have a few clients that are getting thousands of
Spam messages a day. And need to 
know of what works well.
 
Rick Reynolds
MCSE 2000, CCNA, CISSP
 
 


[ActiveDir] Exchange, and SPAM filters or blacklist or...

2003-06-06 Thread rick reynolds



Does anyone have recommendations for a Spam filter 
or black list service that works well.
I have a few clients that are getting thousands of 
Spam messages a day. And need to 
know of what works well.
 
Rick Reynolds
MCSE 2000, CCNA, CISSP