RE: [ActiveDir] Network browsing slow and not showing all compute rs
Because it caters largely to the smaller operations crowd where its useful for those folks I think. Thanks, Brian Desmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] c - 312.731.3132 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al Mulnick Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 7:32 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Network browsing slow and not showing all compute rs What? BE has a manual input box for the machine name? Trying to figure out why I'd want to use the browser in the first place then. On 4/12/06, Brian Desmond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Smack myself everytime I accidentally click the little expand thing in their browser since it's a single threaded GUI. They have a manually punch in the server name box. Thanks, Brian Desmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] c - 312.731.3132 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Al Mulnick Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 3:44 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Network browsing slow and not showing all compute rs how'd you work around it? On 4/11/06, Brian Desmond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've got 10 and it uses the crap – you can work around it though. Trend does as well. Thanks, Brian Desmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] c - 312.731.3132 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Al Mulnick Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 9:24 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Network browsing slow and not showing all compute rs BE uses the network browser?? What version is that? There is no way to build that network browser and then not let others on the network see it that I'm aware of; network browsing is older than security :) WINS is the way to go for what I think you want to accomplish. WINS is the preferred method. Al On 4/11/06, Joe Lagreca <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I appreciate all your very good points. Let me start by saying not all of our users need to be able to browse the entire network, just a few of our machines. Currently we were running backup exec on our server, choosing which clients to push the agent to. Backup exec chooses the clients to push the agent to via the network browser. I have resolved the network browser speed issue on my WinXP workstation by starting the "Computer Browser service". However it still cannot see all active machines on the network. If I check the AD DNS, I see far more registered computers than in the network browser. I can ping them as well to make sure they are actually turned on. Our subnets can all talk to each other with no ports being blocked. However I'm not sure if broadcast traffic is being passed. Our two AD controllers only seem to be able to keep track of the computers in their subnet. I think our problem is that we don't have a Subnet Browser or Local Master Browser on our other subnets. I thought WINS was the old school way of keeping track of the computers on the network, and it wasn't ideal to use anymore, so I haven't looked into it at all. Am I wrong in thinking this? How would I prevent all of our employees from being able to list the resources in their network browser, but still be able to do it on our IT workstations? Thanks! Joe On 4/11/06, Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > (waiving hand) > > In little lans we do... of course in little lans I've mapped the drive > letter for the UNC path for them so ... I guess it's just me that uses > browse the network function now that i think about it. > > Noah Eiger wrote: > > > > > > >Do most folks really allow users to browse their networks? What reason would > >end users have to browse for anything besides servers? (Some might argue > >there is not reason to actually 'browse' for anything.) > > > >-- nme > > > >-Original Message- > >From: Gorder, Lee E Mr CTNOSC/GD-NS [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > >Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 12:31 PM > >To: ' ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org' > >Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Network browsing slow and not showing all compute > >rs > > > >If they are on different subnets ensure UDP 137 is allowed through the > >router. Are you using WINS? I doubt this is a problem with your domain > >controllers or DNS for that matter. > > > >Check the following > >- Ensure NetBIOS over TCP is enabled > >- Browser service is running > >- Router/firewall settings > >- Restart master browser > > > > > >-Original Message- > >From: Joe Lagreca [mai
Re: [ActiveDir] Network browsing slow and not showing all compute rs
What? BE has a manual input box for the machine name? Trying to figure out why I'd want to use the browser in the first place then. On 4/12/06, Brian Desmond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Smack myself everytime I accidentally click the little expand thing in their browser since it's a single threaded GUI. They have a manually punch in the server name box. Thanks,Brian Desmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] c - 312.731.3132 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Al MulnickSent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 3:44 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Network browsing slow and not showing all compute rs how'd you work around it? On 4/11/06, Brian Desmond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've got 10 and it uses the crap – you can work around it though. Trend does as well. Thanks,Brian Desmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] c - 312.731.3132 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Al MulnickSent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 9:24 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Network browsing slow and not showing all compute rs BE uses the network browser?? What version is that? There is no way to build that network browser and then not let others on the network see it that I'm aware of; network browsing is older than security :) WINS is the way to go for what I think you want to accomplish. WINS is the preferred method. Al On 4/11/06, Joe Lagreca <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I appreciate all your very good points.Let me start by saying not all of our users need to be able to browse the entire network, just a few of our machines. Currently we wererunning backup exec on our server, choosing which clients to push the agent to. Backup exec chooses the clients to push the agent to viathe network browser. I have resolved the network browser speed issue on my WinXPworkstation by starting the "Computer Browser service". However it still cannot see all active machines on the network.If I check the AD DNS, I see far more registered computers than in the network browser. I can ping them as well to make sure they areactually turned on. Our subnets can all talk to each other with no ports being blocked.However I'm not sure if broadcast traffic is being passed. Our two AD controllers only seem to be able to keep track of thecomputers in their subnet. I think our problem is that we don't have a Subnet Browser or Local Master Browser on our other subnets.I thought WINS was the old school way of keeping track of the computers on the network, and it wasn't ideal to use anymore, so Ihaven't looked into it at all. Am I wrong in thinking this? How would I prevent all of our employees from being able to list theresources in their network browser, but still be able to do it on our IT workstations?Thanks!JoeOn 4/11/06, Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> (waiving hand) >> In little lans we do... of course in little lans I've mapped the drive > letter for the UNC path for them so ... I guess it's just me that uses> browse the network function now that i think about it. >> Noah Eiger wrote:>> > > >> >Do most folks really allow users to browse their networks? What reason would > >end users have to browse for anything besides servers? (Some might argue> >there is not reason to actually 'browse' for anything.) > >> >-- nme> >> >-Original Message- > >From: Gorder, Lee E Mr CTNOSC/GD-NS [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]]> >> >Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 12:31 PM> >To: ' ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org'> >Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Network browsing slow and not showing all compute> >rs> >> >If they are on different subnets ensure UDP 137 is allowed through the > >router. Are you using WINS? I doubt this is a problem with your domain> >controllers or DNS for that matter.> >> >Check the following> >- Ensure NetBIOS over TCP is enabled > >- Browser service is running> >- Router/firewall settings> >- Restart master browser> >> >> >-Original Message-> >From: Joe Lagreca [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]]> >Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 12:11 PM> >To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org> >Subject: [ActiveDir] Network browsing slow and not showing all computers > >> >When I try to browse our domain via the network:> >> >Start -> My Network Places -> Entire Network -> Microsoft Windows > >Network -> mydomain> > > >it is very slow, and won't show all active computers. DNS is> >functioning properly, as I can resolve all names just fine.> >> >This happens on both win
RE: [ActiveDir] Network browsing slow and not showing all compute rs
Smack myself everytime I accidentally click the little expand thing in their browser since it’s a single threaded GUI. They have a manually punch in the server name box. Thanks, Brian Desmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] c - 312.731.3132 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al Mulnick Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 3:44 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Network browsing slow and not showing all compute rs how'd you work around it? On 4/11/06, Brian Desmond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've got 10 and it uses the crap – you can work around it though. Trend does as well. Thanks, Brian Desmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] c - 312.731.3132 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Al Mulnick Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 9:24 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Network browsing slow and not showing all compute rs BE uses the network browser?? What version is that? There is no way to build that network browser and then not let others on the network see it that I'm aware of; network browsing is older than security :) WINS is the way to go for what I think you want to accomplish. WINS is the preferred method. Al On 4/11/06, Joe Lagreca <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I appreciate all your very good points. Let me start by saying not all of our users need to be able to browse the entire network, just a few of our machines. Currently we were running backup exec on our server, choosing which clients to push the agent to. Backup exec chooses the clients to push the agent to via the network browser. I have resolved the network browser speed issue on my WinXP workstation by starting the "Computer Browser service". However it still cannot see all active machines on the network. If I check the AD DNS, I see far more registered computers than in the network browser. I can ping them as well to make sure they are actually turned on. Our subnets can all talk to each other with no ports being blocked. However I'm not sure if broadcast traffic is being passed. Our two AD controllers only seem to be able to keep track of the computers in their subnet. I think our problem is that we don't have a Subnet Browser or Local Master Browser on our other subnets. I thought WINS was the old school way of keeping track of the computers on the network, and it wasn't ideal to use anymore, so I haven't looked into it at all. Am I wrong in thinking this? How would I prevent all of our employees from being able to list the resources in their network browser, but still be able to do it on our IT workstations? Thanks! Joe On 4/11/06, Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > (waiving hand) > > In little lans we do... of course in little lans I've mapped the drive > letter for the UNC path for them so ... I guess it's just me that uses > browse the network function now that i think about it. > > Noah Eiger wrote: > > > > > > >Do most folks really allow users to browse their networks? What reason would > >end users have to browse for anything besides servers? (Some might argue > >there is not reason to actually 'browse' for anything.) > > > >-- nme > > > >-Original Message- > >From: Gorder, Lee E Mr CTNOSC/GD-NS [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > >Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 12:31 PM > >To: ' ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org' > >Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Network browsing slow and not showing all compute > >rs > > > >If they are on different subnets ensure UDP 137 is allowed through the > >router. Are you using WINS? I doubt this is a problem with your domain > >controllers or DNS for that matter. > > > >Check the following > >- Ensure NetBIOS over TCP is enabled > >- Browser service is running > >- Router/firewall settings > >- Restart master browser > > > > > >-Original Message- > >From: Joe Lagreca [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 12:11 PM > >To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org > >Subject: [ActiveDir] Network browsing slow and not showing all computers > > > >When I try to browse our domain via the network: > > > >Start -> My Network Places -> Entire Network -> Microsoft Windows > >Network -> mydomain > > > >it is very slow, and won't show all active computers. DNS is > >functioning properly, as I can resolve all names just fine. > > > >This happens on both windows 2000 and windows xp clients. Not all > >computers, includ
Re: [ActiveDir] Network browsing slow and not showing all compute rs
how'd you work around it? On 4/11/06, Brian Desmond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've got 10 and it uses the crap – you can work around it though. Trend does as well. Thanks,Brian Desmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] c - 312.731.3132 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Al MulnickSent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 9:24 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Network browsing slow and not showing all compute rs BE uses the network browser?? What version is that? There is no way to build that network browser and then not let others on the network see it that I'm aware of; network browsing is older than security :) WINS is the way to go for what I think you want to accomplish. WINS is the preferred method. Al On 4/11/06, Joe Lagreca <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I appreciate all your very good points.Let me start by saying not all of our users need to be able to browse the entire network, just a few of our machines. Currently we wererunning backup exec on our server, choosing which clients to push the agent to. Backup exec chooses the clients to push the agent to viathe network browser. I have resolved the network browser speed issue on my WinXPworkstation by starting the "Computer Browser service". However it still cannot see all active machines on the network.If I check the AD DNS, I see far more registered computers than in the network browser. I can ping them as well to make sure they areactually turned on. Our subnets can all talk to each other with no ports being blocked.However I'm not sure if broadcast traffic is being passed. Our two AD controllers only seem to be able to keep track of thecomputers in their subnet. I think our problem is that we don't have a Subnet Browser or Local Master Browser on our other subnets.I thought WINS was the old school way of keeping track of the computers on the network, and it wasn't ideal to use anymore, so Ihaven't looked into it at all. Am I wrong in thinking this? How would I prevent all of our employees from being able to list theresources in their network browser, but still be able to do it on our IT workstations?Thanks!JoeOn 4/11/06, Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> (waiving hand) >> In little lans we do... of course in little lans I've mapped the drive > letter for the UNC path for them so ... I guess it's just me that uses> browse the network function now that i think about it. >> Noah Eiger wrote:>> > > >> >Do most folks really allow users to browse their networks? What reason would > >end users have to browse for anything besides servers? (Some might argue> >there is not reason to actually 'browse' for anything.) > >> >-- nme> >> >-Original Message- > >From: Gorder, Lee E Mr CTNOSC/GD-NS [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]]> >> >Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 12:31 PM> >To: ' ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org'> >Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Network browsing slow and not showing all compute> >rs> >> >If they are on different subnets ensure UDP 137 is allowed through the > >router. Are you using WINS? I doubt this is a problem with your domain> >controllers or DNS for that matter.> >> >Check the following> >- Ensure NetBIOS over TCP is enabled > >- Browser service is running> >- Router/firewall settings> >- Restart master browser> >> >> >-Original Message-> >From: Joe Lagreca [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]]> >Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 12:11 PM> >To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org> >Subject: [ActiveDir] Network browsing slow and not showing all computers > >> >When I try to browse our domain via the network:> >> >Start -> My Network Places -> Entire Network -> Microsoft Windows > >Network -> mydomain> > > >it is very slow, and won't show all active computers. DNS is> >functioning properly, as I can resolve all names just fine.> >> >This happens on both windows 2000 and windows xp clients. Not all > >computers, including the servers, are on the same subnet. Domain> >controllers are windows 2003.> >> >I am inclined to think something about our domain controllers isn't> >configured properly. Has anyone had this problem before, or have an > >idea where I should look for a fix?> >List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx > >List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx> >List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/> >> >List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx > >List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx> >Li
RE: [ActiveDir] Network browsing slow and not showing all compute rs
I’ve got 10 and it uses the crap – you can work around it though. Trend does as well. Thanks, Brian Desmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] c - 312.731.3132 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al Mulnick Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 9:24 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Network browsing slow and not showing all compute rs BE uses the network browser?? What version is that? There is no way to build that network browser and then not let others on the network see it that I'm aware of; network browsing is older than security :) WINS is the way to go for what I think you want to accomplish. WINS is the preferred method. Al On 4/11/06, Joe Lagreca <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I appreciate all your very good points. Let me start by saying not all of our users need to be able to browse the entire network, just a few of our machines. Currently we were running backup exec on our server, choosing which clients to push the agent to. Backup exec chooses the clients to push the agent to via the network browser. I have resolved the network browser speed issue on my WinXP workstation by starting the "Computer Browser service". However it still cannot see all active machines on the network. If I check the AD DNS, I see far more registered computers than in the network browser. I can ping them as well to make sure they are actually turned on. Our subnets can all talk to each other with no ports being blocked. However I'm not sure if broadcast traffic is being passed. Our two AD controllers only seem to be able to keep track of the computers in their subnet. I think our problem is that we don't have a Subnet Browser or Local Master Browser on our other subnets. I thought WINS was the old school way of keeping track of the computers on the network, and it wasn't ideal to use anymore, so I haven't looked into it at all. Am I wrong in thinking this? How would I prevent all of our employees from being able to list the resources in their network browser, but still be able to do it on our IT workstations? Thanks! Joe On 4/11/06, Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > (waiving hand) > > In little lans we do... of course in little lans I've mapped the drive > letter for the UNC path for them so ... I guess it's just me that uses > browse the network function now that i think about it. > > Noah Eiger wrote: > > > > > > >Do most folks really allow users to browse their networks? What reason would > >end users have to browse for anything besides servers? (Some might argue > >there is not reason to actually 'browse' for anything.) > > > >-- nme > > > >-Original Message- > >From: Gorder, Lee E Mr CTNOSC/GD-NS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > >Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 12:31 PM > >To: ' ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org' > >Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Network browsing slow and not showing all compute > >rs > > > >If they are on different subnets ensure UDP 137 is allowed through the > >router. Are you using WINS? I doubt this is a problem with your domain > >controllers or DNS for that matter. > > > >Check the following > >- Ensure NetBIOS over TCP is enabled > >- Browser service is running > >- Router/firewall settings > >- Restart master browser > > > > > >-Original Message- > >From: Joe Lagreca [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 12:11 PM > >To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org > >Subject: [ActiveDir] Network browsing slow and not showing all computers > > > >When I try to browse our domain via the network: > > > >Start -> My Network Places -> Entire Network -> Microsoft Windows > >Network -> mydomain > > > >it is very slow, and won't show all active computers. DNS is > >functioning properly, as I can resolve all names just fine. > > > >This happens on both windows 2000 and windows xp clients. Not all > >computers, including the servers, are on the same subnet. Domain > >controllers are windows 2003. > > > >I am inclined to think something about our domain controllers isn't > >configured properly. Has anyone had this problem before, or have an > >idea where I should look for a fix? > >List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx > >List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx > >List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ > > > >List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx > >List FAQ: http://www.activedir
Re: [ActiveDir] Network browsing slow and not showing all compute rs
BE uses the network browser?? What version is that? There is no way to build that network browser and then not let others on the network see it that I'm aware of; network browsing is older than security :) WINS is the way to go for what I think you want to accomplish. WINS is the preferred method. Al On 4/11/06, Joe Lagreca <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I appreciate all your very good points.Let me start by saying not all of our users need to be able to browse the entire network, just a few of our machines. Currently we wererunning backup exec on our server, choosing which clients to push theagent to. Backup exec chooses the clients to push the agent to viathe network browser. I have resolved the network browser speed issue on my WinXPworkstation by starting the "Computer Browser service". However itstill cannot see all active machines on the network.If I check the AD DNS, I see far more registered computers than in the network browser. I can ping them as well to make sure they areactually turned on.Our subnets can all talk to each other with no ports being blocked.However I'm not sure if broadcast traffic is being passed. Our two AD controllers only seem to be able to keep track of thecomputers in their subnet. I think our problem is that we don't have aSubnet Browser or Local Master Browser on our other subnets.I thought WINS was the old school way of keeping track of the computers on the network, and it wasn't ideal to use anymore, so Ihaven't looked into it at all. Am I wrong in thinking this?How would I prevent all of our employees from being able to list theresources in their network browser, but still be able to do it on our IT workstations?Thanks!JoeOn 4/11/06, Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> (waiving hand) >> In little lans we do... of course in little lans I've mapped the drive> letter for the UNC path for them so ... I guess it's just me that uses> browse the network function now that i think about it. >> Noah Eiger wrote:>> >> >> >Do most folks really allow users to browse their networks? What reason would > >end users have to browse for anything besides servers? (Some might argue> >there is not reason to actually 'browse' for anything.)> >> >-- nme> >> >-Original Message- > >From: Gorder, Lee E Mr CTNOSC/GD-NS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]> >> >Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 12:31 PM> >To: ' ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org'> >Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Network browsing slow and not showing all compute> >rs> >> >If they are on different subnets ensure UDP 137 is allowed through the > >router. Are you using WINS? I doubt this is a problem with your domain> >controllers or DNS for that matter.> >> >Check the following> >- Ensure NetBIOS over TCP is enabled > >- Browser service is running> >- Router/firewall settings> >- Restart master browser> >> >> >-Original Message-> >From: Joe Lagreca [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]]> >Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 12:11 PM> >To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org> >Subject: [ActiveDir] Network browsing slow and not showing all computers > >> >When I try to browse our domain via the network:> >> >Start -> My Network Places -> Entire Network -> Microsoft Windows> >Network -> mydomain> > > >it is very slow, and won't show all active computers. DNS is> >functioning properly, as I can resolve all names just fine.> >> >This happens on both windows 2000 and windows xp clients. Not all > >computers, including the servers, are on the same subnet. Domain> >controllers are windows 2003.> >> >I am inclined to think something about our domain controllers isn't> >configured properly. Has anyone had this problem before, or have an > >idea where I should look for a fix?> >List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx> >List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx> >List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/> >> >List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx> >List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx> >List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/> >> >> >> >>> --> Letting your vendors set your risk analysis these days? > http://www.threatcode.com>> List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx> List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx> List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/>List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspxList FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspxList archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
Re: [ActiveDir] Network browsing slow and not showing all compute rs
I appreciate all your very good points. Let me start by saying not all of our users need to be able to browse the entire network, just a few of our machines. Currently we were running backup exec on our server, choosing which clients to push the agent to. Backup exec chooses the clients to push the agent to via the network browser. I have resolved the network browser speed issue on my WinXP workstation by starting the "Computer Browser service". However it still cannot see all active machines on the network. If I check the AD DNS, I see far more registered computers than in the network browser. I can ping them as well to make sure they are actually turned on. Our subnets can all talk to each other with no ports being blocked. However I'm not sure if broadcast traffic is being passed. Our two AD controllers only seem to be able to keep track of the computers in their subnet. I think our problem is that we don't have a Subnet Browser or Local Master Browser on our other subnets. I thought WINS was the old school way of keeping track of the computers on the network, and it wasn't ideal to use anymore, so I haven't looked into it at all. Am I wrong in thinking this? How would I prevent all of our employees from being able to list the resources in their network browser, but still be able to do it on our IT workstations? Thanks! Joe On 4/11/06, Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > (waiving hand) > > In little lans we do... of course in little lans I've mapped the drive > letter for the UNC path for them so ... I guess it's just me that uses > browse the network function now that i think about it. > > Noah Eiger wrote: > > > > > > >Do most folks really allow users to browse their networks? What reason would > >end users have to browse for anything besides servers? (Some might argue > >there is not reason to actually 'browse' for anything.) > > > >-- nme > > > >-Original Message- > >From: Gorder, Lee E Mr CTNOSC/GD-NS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 12:31 PM > >To: 'ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org' > >Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Network browsing slow and not showing all compute > >rs > > > >If they are on different subnets ensure UDP 137 is allowed through the > >router. Are you using WINS? I doubt this is a problem with your domain > >controllers or DNS for that matter. > > > >Check the following > >- Ensure NetBIOS over TCP is enabled > >- Browser service is running > >- Router/firewall settings > >- Restart master browser > > > > > >-Original Message- > >From: Joe Lagreca [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 12:11 PM > >To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org > >Subject: [ActiveDir] Network browsing slow and not showing all computers > > > >When I try to browse our domain via the network: > > > >Start -> My Network Places -> Entire Network -> Microsoft Windows > >Network -> mydomain > > > >it is very slow, and won't show all active computers. DNS is > >functioning properly, as I can resolve all names just fine. > > > >This happens on both windows 2000 and windows xp clients. Not all > >computers, including the servers, are on the same subnet. Domain > >controllers are windows 2003. > > > >I am inclined to think something about our domain controllers isn't > >configured properly. Has anyone had this problem before, or have an > >idea where I should look for a fix? > >List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx > >List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx > >List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ > > > >List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx > >List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx > >List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ > > > > > > > > > > -- > Letting your vendors set your risk analysis these days? > http://www.threatcode.com > > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx > List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx > List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] Network browsing slow and not showing all compute rs
We don't allow it. I knew part of the answer/troubleshooting steps because our techs ghost across subnets. So working master browsers are something they need for the way they do it. And when we had trouble last time with their ghosting the symptoms where identical to what the OP described when I browsed from a server. I am sure there is a better way, but it is working and causes no problems and I have lots of other stuff to do. Like read this list :) > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Noah Eiger > Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 4:08 PM > To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Network browsing slow and not > showing all compute rs > > Continue> > > Do most folks really allow users to browse their networks? > What reason would end users have to browse for anything > besides servers? (Some might argue there is not reason to > actually 'browse' for anything.) List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
Re: [ActiveDir] Network browsing slow and not showing all compute rs
(waiving hand) In little lans we do... of course in little lans I've mapped the drive letter for the UNC path for them so ... I guess it's just me that uses browse the network function now that i think about it. Noah Eiger wrote: Do most folks really allow users to browse their networks? What reason would end users have to browse for anything besides servers? (Some might argue there is not reason to actually 'browse' for anything.) -- nme -Original Message- From: Gorder, Lee E Mr CTNOSC/GD-NS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 12:31 PM To: 'ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org' Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Network browsing slow and not showing all compute rs If they are on different subnets ensure UDP 137 is allowed through the router. Are you using WINS? I doubt this is a problem with your domain controllers or DNS for that matter. Check the following - Ensure NetBIOS over TCP is enabled - Browser service is running - Router/firewall settings - Restart master browser -Original Message- From: Joe Lagreca [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 12:11 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] Network browsing slow and not showing all computers When I try to browse our domain via the network: Start -> My Network Places -> Entire Network -> Microsoft Windows Network -> mydomain it is very slow, and won't show all active computers. DNS is functioning properly, as I can resolve all names just fine. This happens on both windows 2000 and windows xp clients. Not all computers, including the servers, are on the same subnet. Domain controllers are windows 2003. I am inclined to think something about our domain controllers isn't configured properly. Has anyone had this problem before, or have an idea where I should look for a fix? List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ -- Letting your vendors set your risk analysis these days? http://www.threatcode.com List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] Network browsing slow and not showing all compute rs
Do most folks really allow users to browse their networks? What reason would end users have to browse for anything besides servers? (Some might argue there is not reason to actually 'browse' for anything.) -- nme -Original Message- From: Gorder, Lee E Mr CTNOSC/GD-NS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 12:31 PM To: 'ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org' Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Network browsing slow and not showing all compute rs If they are on different subnets ensure UDP 137 is allowed through the router. Are you using WINS? I doubt this is a problem with your domain controllers or DNS for that matter. Check the following - Ensure NetBIOS over TCP is enabled - Browser service is running - Router/firewall settings - Restart master browser -Original Message- From: Joe Lagreca [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 12:11 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] Network browsing slow and not showing all computers When I try to browse our domain via the network: Start -> My Network Places -> Entire Network -> Microsoft Windows Network -> mydomain it is very slow, and won't show all active computers. DNS is functioning properly, as I can resolve all names just fine. This happens on both windows 2000 and windows xp clients. Not all computers, including the servers, are on the same subnet. Domain controllers are windows 2003. I am inclined to think something about our domain controllers isn't configured properly. Has anyone had this problem before, or have an idea where I should look for a fix? List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.1/307 - Release Date: 4/10/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.1/307 - Release Date: 4/10/2006 List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] Network browsing slow and not showing all compute rs
As a multiple subnet system that still has this enabled let me amplify the below. WINS is pretty much mandatory for it to work as you want. The master browsers on each subnet will register themselves in WINS, and then be able trade info between the masters on each subnet using the WINS records. Browstat.exe in the resource kit is your friend. If you are using WINS, consider blowing out your WINS databases. We do that a couple of times a year, it really helps. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Gorder, Lee E Mr CTNOSC/GD-NS > Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 3:31 PM > To: 'ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org' > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Network browsing slow and not > showing all compute rs > > If they are on different subnets ensure UDP 137 is allowed > through the router. Are you using WINS? I doubt this is a > problem with your domain controllers or DNS for that matter. > > Check the following > - Ensure NetBIOS over TCP is enabled > - Browser service is running > - Router/firewall settings > - Restart master browser > > > -Original Message- > From: Joe Lagreca [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 12:11 PM > To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org > Subject: [ActiveDir] Network browsing slow and not showing > all computers > > When I try to browse our domain via the network: > > Start -> My Network Places -> Entire Network -> Microsoft Windows > Network -> mydomain > > it is very slow, and won't show all active computers. DNS is > functioning properly, as I can resolve all names just fine. > > This happens on both windows 2000 and windows xp clients. Not all > computers, including the servers, are on the same subnet. Domain > controllers are windows 2003. > > I am inclined to think something about our domain controllers isn't > configured properly. Has anyone had this problem before, or have an > idea where I should look for a fix? > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx > List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx > List archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ > > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx > List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx > List archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] Network browsing slow and not showing all compute rs
If they are on different subnets ensure UDP 137 is allowed through the router. Are you using WINS? I doubt this is a problem with your domain controllers or DNS for that matter. Check the following - Ensure NetBIOS over TCP is enabled - Browser service is running - Router/firewall settings - Restart master browser -Original Message- From: Joe Lagreca [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 12:11 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] Network browsing slow and not showing all computers When I try to browse our domain via the network: Start -> My Network Places -> Entire Network -> Microsoft Windows Network -> mydomain it is very slow, and won't show all active computers. DNS is functioning properly, as I can resolve all names just fine. This happens on both windows 2000 and windows xp clients. Not all computers, including the servers, are on the same subnet. Domain controllers are windows 2003. I am inclined to think something about our domain controllers isn't configured properly. Has anyone had this problem before, or have an idea where I should look for a fix? List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
