Re: [ActiveDir] Roaming Profiles and Exchange
Damm - you stole my idea - I was trying to work out the convesation view in GMail - trying to find the end of the thread to hit reply at the right moment - I'm sure it'll be brilliant when I get used to it... :-) Lookout is one of the best things I've ever beta tested. google for your inbox? not quite - but it is getting there... I like the fact you can index network locations as well - only by filename at the moment - but I believe they are working on content indexing too List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
[ActiveDir] Roaming Profiles and Exchange
Title: Message According to MS documentation, it is not a good idea to put Outlook *.pst files in a remote location such as a UNC path. So what is the alternative if you are using roaming profiles? The *.pst file does not seem to get copied over into the users Application Data folder when logging off or when moving to another computer. At one point, I had the GPO set to delete locally cached copies of profiles but because of the above mentioned had to disable this option. Thank in advance for your responses, Edwin
RE: [ActiveDir] Roaming Profiles and Exchange
Title: Message Jack- You have a perfectly valid point and yet, millions of people live and die by PSTs, even in large corporations that "should know better". The reasons vary from inadequate central storage for Exchange to just plain old user preference. Hell, even I keep emails forever in PSTs--yea they're bad but it beats the heck out of having to groom my info store every week or month, and I have a wonderful history of my life in email that I can refer to at any time :-). In any case Edwin, to answer your question--yes you should try avoiding PSTs altogether. Failing that, try to avoid having to roam them--its just messy. Finally, if you have to make them available from anywhere then I have used mapped drives to store PSTs before (e.g. the user's home directory). It isn't the greatest idea, especially when they get very large, but it is do-able--just be prepared for the occasional corrupted PST and you get issues with being able to back those PSTsup on the server if the user has them open (i.e. they've left Outlook open). You probably don't want to do anything to make them roam with the profile because any reasonably sized PST will cause the logon and logoff process to take forever--esp. when the user is remote to their server. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 6:30 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Roaming Profiles and Exchange H how about. DON'T USE PST's!! THEY ARE BAD!! Does that cover it? If you have an Exchange Server, and judging by your subject I'm ass-u-me-ing that you do then use the Information Store - it's what it's designed for.. Centralised Backups, Single Instance Storage, etc. If you're in any doubt about how bad PST's are, sign up to the Exchange list that Sunbelt software hosts and Post something along the lines of "I like PST's, what does the rest of the group think?" (remember to put on a flame retardant jacket and duck before you hit send :-) You can find the list here: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/community.cfm Or try reading this: http://snipurl.com/7a0f Full link is here: http://www.swinc.com/resources/exchange/faq_db.asp?status=questionsfaqID=1000faqname=Exchange%205.5sectionID=1013sectionName=Why%20PST%20=%20BAD(watch for wrapping) HTH Jack From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of EdwinSent: 23 June 2004 14:07To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [ActiveDir] Roaming Profiles and Exchange According to MS documentation, it is not a good idea to put Outlook *.pst files in a remote location such as a UNC path. So what is the alternative if you are using roaming profiles? The *.pst file does not seem to get copied over into the users Application Data folder when logging off or when moving to another computer. At one point, I had the GPO set to delete locally cached copies of profiles but because of the above mentioned had to disable this option. Thank in advance for your responses, Edwin
RE: [ActiveDir] Roaming Profiles and Exchange
Title: Message Darren, thanks for the response - I know what you mean... we have PST's used in places here - I have several because I, like you do not like to delete stuff however, I'm happy with the fact that it's entirely at my own risk and I do my own backups periodically (Now I have my Gmail account I can get me mailing lists moved over tothere and archive / search for stuff there insteadheheheheh) I'm just trying to do my bit to help people out - I've spent a lot of time lurking on a lot of lists - and I've picked up a lot... most of which I've dropped again since :-) but this is one lesson that has stuck with me and it's nice to be able to give a little back here and there btw - on the giving something back front - anyone want a Gmail invite? Joe, Darren, Tony, Roger,et al - your names are on some.. ;-) Cheers Jack From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darren Mar-EliaSent: 23 June 2004 14:58To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Roaming Profiles and Exchange Jack- You have a perfectly valid point and yet, millions of people live and die by PSTs, even in large corporations that "should know better". The reasons vary from inadequate central storage for Exchange to just plain old user preference. Hell, even I keep emails forever in PSTs--yea they're bad but it beats the heck out of having to groom my info store every week or month, and I have a wonderful history of my life in email that I can refer to at any time :-). In any case Edwin, to answer your question--yes you should try avoiding PSTs altogether. Failing that, try to avoid having to roam them--its just messy. Finally, if you have to make them available from anywhere then I have used mapped drives to store PSTs before (e.g. the user's home directory). It isn't the greatest idea, especially when they get very large, but it is do-able--just be prepared for the occasional corrupted PST and you get issues with being able to back those PSTsup on the server if the user has them open (i.e. they've left Outlook open). You probably don't want to do anything to make them roam with the profile because any reasonably sized PST will cause the logon and logoff process to take forever--esp. when the user is remote to their server. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 6:30 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Roaming Profiles and Exchange H how about. DON'T USE PST's!! THEY ARE BAD!! Does that cover it? If you have an Exchange Server, and judging by your subject I'm ass-u-me-ing that you do then use the Information Store - it's what it's designed for.. Centralised Backups, Single Instance Storage, etc. If you're in any doubt about how bad PST's are, sign up to the Exchange list that Sunbelt software hosts and Post something along the lines of "I like PST's, what does the rest of the group think?" (remember to put on a flame retardant jacket and duck before you hit send :-) You can find the list here: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/community.cfm Or try reading this: http://snipurl.com/7a0f Full link is here: http://www.swinc.com/resources/exchange/faq_db.asp?status=questionsfaqID=1000faqname=Exchange%205.5sectionID=1013sectionName=Why%20PST%20=%20BAD(watch for wrapping) HTH Jack From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of EdwinSent: 23 June 2004 14:07To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [ActiveDir] Roaming Profiles and Exchange According to MS documentation, it is not a good idea to put Outlook *.pst files in a remote location such as a UNC path. So what is the alternative if you are using roaming profiles? The *.pst file does not seem to get copied over into the users Application Data folder when logging off or when moving to another computer. At one point, I had the GPO set to delete locally cached copies of profiles but because of the above mentioned had to disable this option. Thank in advance for your responses, Edwin
RE: [ActiveDir] Roaming Profiles and Exchange
Title: Message Well, I definitely do not want to have the PST file cause a slower logon time. I am aware of the consequences of using a PST file in a remote location which is why I question it. By that same token, I guess that is why it is not carried over into the users roaming profile. I got the opinion of the list I was looking for. Thank you for your responses. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darren Mar-Elia Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 9:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Roaming Profiles and Exchange Jack- You have a perfectly valid point and yet, millions of people live and die by PSTs, even in large corporations that should know better. The reasons vary from inadequate central storage for Exchange to just plain old user preference. Hell, even I keep emails forever in PSTs--yea they're bad but it beats the heck out of having to groom my info store every week or month, and I have a wonderful history of my life in email that I can refer to at any time :-). In any case Edwin, to answer your question--yes you should try avoiding PSTs altogether. Failing that, try to avoid having to roam them--its just messy. Finally, if you have to make them available from anywhere then I have used mapped drives to store PSTs before (e.g. the user's home directory). It isn't the greatest idea, especially when they get very large, but it is do-able--just be prepared for the occasional corrupted PST and you get issues with being able to back those PSTsup on the server if the user has them open (i.e. they've left Outlook open). You probably don't want to do anything to make them roam with the profile because any reasonably sized PST will cause the logon and logoff process to take forever--esp. when the user is remote to their server. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 6:30 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Roaming Profiles and Exchange H how about. DON'T USE PST's!! THEY ARE BAD!! Does that cover it? If you have an Exchange Server, and judging by your subject I'm ass-u-me-ing that you do then use the Information Store - it's what it's designed for.. Centralised Backups, Single Instance Storage, etc. If you're in any doubt about how bad PST's are, sign up to the Exchange list that Sunbelt software hosts and Post something along the lines of I like PST's, what does the rest of the group think? (remember to put on a flame retardant jacket and duck before you hit send :-) You can find the list here: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/community.cfm Or try reading this: http://snipurl.com/7a0f Full link is here: http://www.swinc.com/resources/exchange/faq_db.asp?status=questionsfaqID=1000faqname=Exchange%205.5sectionID=1013sectionName=Why%20PST%20=%20BAD(watch for wrapping) HTH Jack From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edwin Sent: 23 June 2004 14:07 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ActiveDir] Roaming Profiles and Exchange According to MS documentation, it is not a good idea to put Outlook *.pst files in a remote location such as a UNC path. So what is the alternative if you are using roaming profiles? The *.pst file does not seem to get copied over into the users Application Data folder when logging off or when moving to another computer. At one point, I had the GPO set to delete locally cached copies of profiles but because of the above mentioned had to disable this option. Thank in advance for your responses, Edwin
RE: [ActiveDir] Roaming Profiles and Exchange
Title: Message LOL. No I don't need any more email accounts, but thanks! Trying to work on reducing what I have now which is something in the ball park of 20 or so. I actually spun up a cough cough cough hack cough E2K3SP1machinecough hack cough cough cough at home. I am going to start routing everything into that and see how the spam control works on it and if it isn't good enough start working on figuring that stuff out. I get about 300-400 spams a day at this point I think. I was just going to set up a pop3/smtp server but figured I dealing with Exchange too much with people now I might as well fire it up and use it regularly here in my test environment. I must say that I agree that PSTs are evil. All the while saying I have about 17GB of them in folders (largest is 500MB though, I am just dumb, not stupid). I am thinking about pushing them all into my exchange server and then working on aperl script to sort them out and make them all clear text and put them in some other format so I can easily search them. joe From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 10:16 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Roaming Profiles and Exchange Darren, thanks for the response - I know what you mean... we have PST's used in places here - I have several because I, like you do not like to delete stuff however, I'm happy with the fact that it's entirely at my own risk and I do my own backups periodically (Now I have my Gmail account I can get me mailing lists moved over tothere and archive / search for stuff there insteadheheheheh) I'm just trying to do my bit to help people out - I've spent a lot of time lurking on a lot of lists - and I've picked up a lot... most of which I've dropped again since :-) but this is one lesson that has stuck with me and it's nice to be able to give a little back here and there btw - on the giving something back front - anyone want a Gmail invite? Joe, Darren, Tony, Roger,et al - your names are on some.. ;-) Cheers Jack From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darren Mar-EliaSent: 23 June 2004 14:58To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Roaming Profiles and Exchange Jack- You have a perfectly valid point and yet, millions of people live and die by PSTs, even in large corporations that "should know better". The reasons vary from inadequate central storage for Exchange to just plain old user preference. Hell, even I keep emails forever in PSTs--yea they're bad but it beats the heck out of having to groom my info store every week or month, and I have a wonderful history of my life in email that I can refer to at any time :-). In any case Edwin, to answer your question--yes you should try avoiding PSTs altogether. Failing that, try to avoid having to roam them--its just messy. Finally, if you have to make them available from anywhere then I have used mapped drives to store PSTs before (e.g. the user's home directory). It isn't the greatest idea, especially when they get very large, but it is do-able--just be prepared for the occasional corrupted PST and you get issues with being able to back those PSTsup on the server if the user has them open (i.e. they've left Outlook open). You probably don't want to do anything to make them roam with the profile because any reasonably sized PST will cause the logon and logoff process to take forever--esp. when the user is remote to their server. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 6:30 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Roaming Profiles and Exchange H how about. DON'T USE PST's!! THEY ARE BAD!! Does that cover it? If you have an Exchange Server, and judging by your subject I'm ass-u-me-ing that you do then use the Information Store - it's what it's designed for.. Centralised Backups, Single Instance Storage, etc. If you're in any doubt about how bad PST's are, sign up to the Exchange list that Sunbelt software hosts and Post something along the lines of "I like PST's, what does the rest of the group think?" (remember to put on a flame retardant jacket and duck before you hit send :-) You can find the list here: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/community.cfm Or try reading this: http://snipurl.com/7a0f Full link is here: http://www.swinc.com/resources/exchange/faq_db.asp?status=questionsfaqID=1000faqname=Exchange%205.5sectionID=1013sectionName=Why%20PST%20=%20BAD(watch for wrapping) HTH Jack From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of EdwinSent: 23 June 2004 14:07To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [ActiveDir] Roaming Profiles and Exchange According to MS documentation, it is not a good idea to put Outlook *.pst files in a remote location such as a UNC path. So what is the alternative if yo
RE: [ActiveDir] Roaming Profiles and Exchange
First, it was Steve Jobs. Then along came Scott McNealy. Now, Joe Richards installs Exchange! What is the world coming to??? :) Congrats, Joe. I'm glad to see you join forces with the hacking cough taking copious doses of expectorant :) evil ones. Seriously, with E2K3 and Outlook 2K3, you no longer have to worry much about the PST corruption and the 2Gig limitation. This should make your life easier. Now, as to your high hopes of seeing huge reduction in your ~400 daily dose of SPAM, I'm sorry to say that you *may* be hugely disappointed. The SPAM control is a disappointment, and I'm not just saying that to spite the developers. And, yes, you could say I am somewhat biased and not objective. But, Heuristics scanning? puhlase. that's so 5 minutes ago. One policy for EVERY mailbox in the org? who came up with that? Manual update to the IMF filters? that in itself is a full-time job for a sizeable enterprise I had high hopes for IMF when MS started touting it. I just feel that they could have spent more time on this and make it worth the wait instead of coming out with what it turns out to be. Sorry for the rant... Sincerely, Dèjì Akómöláfé, MCSE MCSA MCP+I Microsoft MVP - Directory Services www.readymaids.com - we know IT www.akomolafe.com Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about Yesterday? -anon From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of joe Sent: Wed 6/23/2004 8:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Roaming Profiles and Exchange LOL. No I don't need any more email accounts, but thanks! Trying to work on reducing what I have now which is something in the ball park of 20 or so. I actually spun up a cough cough cough hack cough E2K3SP1machinecough hack cough cough cough at home. I am going to start routing everything into that and see how the spam control works on it and if it isn't good enough start working on figuring that stuff out. I get about 300-400 spams a day at this point I think. I was just going to set up a pop3/smtp server but figured I dealing with Exchange too much with people now I might as well fire it up and use it regularly here in my test environment. I must say that I agree that PSTs are evil. All the while saying I have about 17GB of them in folders (largest is 500MB though, I am just dumb, not stupid). I am thinking about pushing them all into my exchange server and then working on a perl script to sort them out and make them all clear text and put them in some other format so I can easily search them. joe From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 10:16 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Roaming Profiles and Exchange Darren, thanks for the response - I know what you mean... we have PST's used in places here - I have several because I, like you do not like to delete stuff however, I'm happy with the fact that it's entirely at my own risk and I do my own backups periodically (Now I have my Gmail account I can get me mailing lists moved over to there and archive / search for stuff there instead heheheheh) I'm just trying to do my bit to help people out - I've spent a lot of time lurking on a lot of lists - and I've picked up a lot... most of which I've dropped again since :-) but this is one lesson that has stuck with me and it's nice to be able to give a little back here and there btw - on the giving something back front - anyone want a Gmail invite? Joe, Darren, Tony, Roger, et al - your names are on some.. ;-) Cheers Jack From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darren Mar-Elia Sent: 23 June 2004 14:58 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Roaming Profiles and Exchange Jack- You have a perfectly valid point and yet, millions of people live and die by PSTs, even in large corporations that should know better. The reasons vary from inadequate central storage for Exchange to just plain old user preference. Hell, even I keep emails forever in PSTs--yea they're bad but it beats the heck out of having to groom my info store every week or month, and I have a wonderful history of my life in email that I can refer to at any time :-). In any case Edwin, to answer your question--yes you should try avoiding PSTs altogether. Failing that, try to avoid having to roam them--its just messy. Finally, if you have to make them available from anywhere then I have used mapped drives to store PSTs before (e.g. the user's home directory). It isn't the greatest idea, especially when they get very large, but it is do-able--just be prepared for the occasional corrupted PST and you get issues with being able to back those PSTs up on the server if the user has them open (i.e. they've left Outlook open). You probably don't want to do anything to make them roam with the profile
RE: [ActiveDir] Roaming Profiles and Exchange
Heh, you can keep with multigig PSTs, I will kindly refrain. I hate oops, especially with email. Haven't lost a PST yet that I cared about. :o) Anyway, they are only in PST until I can find a better format. Possibly some flat file structure with some keyword database in front of it. That way no matter what I use I can get to it and text file corruption is tough to come by. :o) Plus if I update or even look at one text file, I don't have to backup the entire PST again. I have good hopes for the spam filtering but you know full well that they (the ubiquitous they that does all the bad things) was beta testing that right along with anyone else... There is always someone there to figure out how to undo what someone else has done. My thoughts on it will be to have front end accounts that get hit and let exchange or whatever clean as best as possible, then I will have a script or engine of some sort that looks through it pops the known good into a the used mailbox in a clean folder, say the inbox. That may possibly be something along the lines of someone goes to my web site and clicks a button and says, hey, this is a valid email, please don't spam block me or something else. Then there will be the questionable emails which will go into the maybe folder and then the spam or anything that appears to be spam by doing things like omitting message IDs, etc will just be killed. I don't know, haven't thought a lot about it, but what they have undone, someone else can redo. I just don't know. We shall see how things pan out. Right now I am mostly just enjoying early summer and working on grouting my jacuzzi tub. Oh and reviewing that book. :o) Pretty good stuff actually. joe -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 4:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Roaming Profiles and Exchange First, it was Steve Jobs. Then along came Scott McNealy. Now, Joe Richards installs Exchange! What is the world coming to??? :) Congrats, Joe. I'm glad to see you join forces with the hacking cough taking copious doses of expectorant :) evil ones. Seriously, with E2K3 and Outlook 2K3, you no longer have to worry much about the PST corruption and the 2Gig limitation. This should make your life easier. Now, as to your high hopes of seeing huge reduction in your ~400 daily dose of SPAM, I'm sorry to say that you *may* be hugely disappointed. The SPAM control is a disappointment, and I'm not just saying that to spite the developers. And, yes, you could say I am somewhat biased and not objective. But, Heuristics scanning? puhlase. that's so 5 minutes ago. One policy for EVERY mailbox in the org? who came up with that? Manual update to the IMF filters? that in itself is a full-time job for a sizeable enterprise I had high hopes for IMF when MS started touting it. I just feel that they could have spent more time on this and make it worth the wait instead of coming out with what it turns out to be. Sorry for the rant... Sincerely, Dèjì Akómöláfé, MCSE MCSA MCP+I Microsoft MVP - Directory Services www.readymaids.com - we know IT www.akomolafe.com Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about Yesterday? -anon From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of joe Sent: Wed 6/23/2004 8:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Roaming Profiles and Exchange LOL. No I don't need any more email accounts, but thanks! Trying to work on reducing what I have now which is something in the ball park of 20 or so. I actually spun up a cough cough cough hack cough E2K3SP1machinecough hack cough cough cough at home. I am going to start routing everything into that and see how the spam control works on it and if it isn't good enough start working on figuring that stuff out. I get about 300-400 spams a day at this point I think. I was just going to set up a pop3/smtp server but figured I dealing with Exchange too much with people now I might as well fire it up and use it regularly here in my test environment. I must say that I agree that PSTs are evil. All the while saying I have about 17GB of them in folders (largest is 500MB though, I am just dumb, not stupid). I am thinking about pushing them all into my exchange server and then working on a perl script to sort them out and make them all clear text and put them in some other format so I can easily search them. joe From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 10:16 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Roaming Profiles and Exchange Darren, thanks for the response - I know what you mean... we have PST's used in places here - I have several because I, like you do not like to delete stuff however, I'm happy with the fact that it's entirely at my own risk and I do my
RE: [ActiveDir] Roaming Profiles and Exchange
You have seen lookout from the lookoutsoft.com (perhaps you'll have to gogle it - dunno if that's right)people? It's like Google for your Outlook mailbox. It takes a while to build the index, but, after that, it's magic. I use it to search a couple gigs of information store data at school and probably a one gig PST at home. --Brian -Original Message- From: joe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 6/23/2004 10:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Roaming Profiles and Exchange LOL. No I don't need any more email accounts, but thanks! Trying to work on reducing what I have now which is something in the ball park of 20 or so. I actually spun up a cough cough cough hack cough E2K3SP1machinecough hack cough cough cough at home. I am going to start routing everything into that and see how the spam control works on it and if it isn't good enough start working on figuring that stuff out. I get about 300-400 spams a day at this point I think. I was just going to set up a pop3/smtp server but figured I dealing with Exchange too much with people now I might as well fire it up and use it regularly here in my test environment. I must say that I agree that PSTs are evil. All the while saying I have about 17GB of them in folders (largest is 500MB though, I am just dumb, not stupid). I am thinking about pushing them all into my exchange server and then working on a perl script to sort them out and make them all clear text and put them in some other format so I can easily search them. joe _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 10:16 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Roaming Profiles and Exchange Darren, thanks for the response - I know what you mean... we have PST's used in places here - I have several because I, like you do not like to delete stuff however, I'm happy with the fact that it's entirely at my own risk and I do my own backups periodically (Now I have my Gmail account I can get me mailing lists moved over to there and archive / search for stuff there instead heheheheh) I'm just trying to do my bit to help people out - I've spent a lot of time lurking on a lot of lists - and I've picked up a lot... most of which I've dropped again since :-) but this is one lesson that has stuck with me and it's nice to be able to give a little back here and there btw - on the giving something back front - anyone want a Gmail invite? Joe, Darren, Tony, Roger, et al - your names are on some.. ;-) Cheers Jack _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darren Mar-Elia Sent: 23 June 2004 14:58 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Roaming Profiles and Exchange Jack- You have a perfectly valid point and yet, millions of people live and die by PSTs, even in large corporations that should know better. The reasons vary from inadequate central storage for Exchange to just plain old user preference. Hell, even I keep emails forever in PSTs--yea they're bad but it beats the heck out of having to groom my info store every week or month, and I have a wonderful history of my life in email that I can refer to at any time :-). In any case Edwin, to answer your question--yes you should try avoiding PSTs altogether. Failing that, try to avoid having to roam them--its just messy. Finally, if you have to make them available from anywhere then I have used mapped drives to store PSTs before (e.g. the user's home directory). It isn't the greatest idea, especially when they get very large, but it is do-able--just be prepared for the occasional corrupted PST and you get issues with being able to back those PSTs up on the server if the user has them open (i.e. they've left Outlook open). You probably don't want to do anything to make them roam with the profile because any reasonably sized PST will cause the logon and logoff process to take forever--esp. when the user is remote to their server. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 6:30 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Roaming Profiles and Exchange H how about. DON'T USE PST's!! THEY ARE BAD!! Does that cover it? If you have an Exchange Server, and judging by your subject I'm ass-u-me-ing that you do then use the Information Store - it's what it's designed for.. Centralised Backups, Single Instance Storage, etc
