RE: [ActiveDir] Who needs that much ram anyway?
So you might have had a bit too much of the Microsoft Cool-Aid :) Exchange 2007 may not have memory limits that you'd reach - but there are limits as to what makes sense to use with E2k7 (32GB are being communicated by MSFT). And of course there are limits as to how much memory a 64bit OS supports: theoretically you could address a max of 16 exa-bytes with a 64bit address space, that is 16 billion GB... - however, the 64bit Windows OSs only support up to 16 TB virtual address space (split half/half for kernel and user memory) and only up to 1TB RAM (will increase to 2TB with SP2). Don't misunderstand the term "only" here, since there isn't much Windows hardware out there that can cope with more than 1TB of RAM right now anyways. Not to say that these are any limits that you'd reach anytime soon with Exchange 2007. Note that the /3GB switch is not supported on Windows 64bit Oss - there is no reason to use it either, since both the virtual kernel and the user-memory are increased dramatically (up to 8 TB each). The /3GB switch is used on 32bit boxes to influence how the max of 4GB virtual memory that is addressable by 32bit is split up between kernel and user memory - you increase the user memory (used by apps such as Exchange) at the cost of reducing the kernel memory. This is no longer required with 64bit boxes... /Guido -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Brunson Sent: Dienstag, 16. Januar 2007 23:48 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Who needs that much ram anyway? Judging by the Exchange 2007 Microsoft Across America Launch Event that I attended this morning, Exchange 2007 has no limits period. If you want it to block spam, it blocks spam. If you want it to run with a 2000TB store on Standard, it will do it. If you want it to cook you breakfast, that might require the /baconandeggs switch, but it should be able to do that as well. The /baconandeggs switch might be undocumented... Seriously though, I know PAE is not supported on 64-bit, and I think I remember reading that /3GB is required on 64-bit OS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jose Medeiros Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 4:04 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] Who needs that much ram anyway? What about the 3Gb switch in the boot.in that is required to take advantage of the additional memory. Also depending on the age of the server and CPU, you may also need a PAE / AWE switch. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/283037 Since the final realease of Exchange 2007 will only be 64 bit and require a 64 bit version of Windows 2003 or Longhorn, I am not sure if the switch will be required, any one else know? Jose - Original Message - From: "Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 8:47 AM Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: Who needs that much ram anyway? > Personally I was surprised that a Windows 2003 server and Exchange 2007 > would need a patch to run more than 4 gigs because > "This problem occurs because of a problem in the Windows kernel" > > Seems to me in the x64 era, we're all going to be running more than 4 gigs > so they should bundle this up in the Exchange 2007 installer from the get > go rather than having everyone stumble across a KB article. > > I'm assuming it's discussed in the readme that no one reads? > > > Brian Desmond wrote: >> The more you can get in memory, the better. 32GB is the threshold for >> Exchange before it stops making sense. >> >> I've remoted into SQL servers with dozens of CPUs and dozens of gigs of >> ram before... >> >> Thanks, >> Brian Desmond >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> c - 312.731.3132 >> >> >> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:ActiveDir- >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - >>> SBS Rocks [MVP] >>> Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 4:01 AM >>> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org >>> Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Who needs that much ram anyway? >>> >>> >>> The Microsoft Exchange Information Store service stops responding on >>> a >>> computer that is running Windows Server 2003 and Exchange Server >>> >> 2007 >> >>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=928368 >>> >>> This problem occurs if Exchange Server 2007 is installed on a computer >>> that has more than 4 gigabytes (GB) of RAM. >>> >>> List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx >>> List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx >>> List archive:
RE: [ActiveDir] Who needs that much ram anyway?
And performance of same is quite poor. There are a few feature removals as well. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Akomolafe, Deji Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 8:26 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Who needs that much ram anyway? One little addition: There is a 32-bit version of E2K7, although it neither intended to be used in production, nor supported if choose to ignore the caveat. Sincerely, _ (, / | /) /) /) /---| (/_ __ ___// _ // _ ) /|_/(__(_) // (_(_)(/_(_(_/(__(/_ (_/ /) (/ Microsoft MVP - Directory Services www.akomolafe.com http://www.akomolafe.com> - we know IT -5.75, -3.23 Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about Yesterday? -anon From: Bernard, Aric Sent: Tue 1/16/2007 5:07 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Who needs that much ram anyway? My understanding is as follows: All three switches address the 32-bit architecture only. Exchange has never supported AWE. Exchange 2007 has RTM'd. Aric -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jose Medeiros Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 2:04 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] Who needs that much ram anyway? What about the 3Gb switch in the boot.in that is required to take advantage of the additional memory. Also depending on the age of the server and CPU, you may also need a PAE / AWE switch. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/283037 Since the final realease of Exchange 2007 will only be 64 bit and require a 64 bit version of Windows 2003 or Longhorn, I am not sure if the switch will be required, any one else know? Jose - Original Message - From: "Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 8:47 AM Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: Who needs that much ram anyway? > Personally I was surprised that a Windows 2003 server and Exchange 2007 > would need a patch to run more than 4 gigs because > "This problem occurs because of a problem in the Windows kernel" > > Seems to me in the x64 era, we're all going to be running more than 4 gigs > so they should bundle this up in the Exchange 2007 installer from the get > go rather than having everyone stumble across a KB article. > > I'm assuming it's discussed in the readme that no one reads? > > > Brian Desmond wrote: >> The more you can get in memory, the better. 32GB is the threshold for >> Exchange before it stops making sense. >> >> I've remoted into SQL servers with dozens of CPUs and dozens of gigs of >> ram before... >> >> Thanks, >> Brian Desmond >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> c - 312.731.3132 >> >> >> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:ActiveDir- >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - >>> SBS Rocks [MVP] >>> Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 4:01 AM >>> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org >>> Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Who needs that much ram anyway? >>> >>> >>> The Microsoft Exchange Information Store service stops responding on >>> a >>> computer that is running Windows Server 2003 and Exchange Server >>> >> 2007 >> >>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=928368 >>> >>> This problem occurs if Exchange Server 2007 is installed on a computer >>> that has more than 4 gigabytes (GB) of RAM. >>> >>> List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx >>> List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx >>> List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx >>> >> List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx >> List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx >> List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx >> >> > > -- > Letting your vendors set your risk analysis these days? > http://www.threatcode.com > > If you are a SBSer and you don't subscribe to the SBS Blog... man ... I > will hunt you down... > http://blogs.technet.com/sbs > > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx > List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx > List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx
RE: [ActiveDir] Who needs that much ram anyway?
One little addition: There is a 32-bit version of E2K7, although it neither intended to be used in production, nor supported if choose to ignore the caveat. Sincerely, _ (, / | /) /) /) /---| (/_ __ ___// _ // _ ) /|_/(__(_) // (_(_)(/_(_(_/(__(/_ (_/ /) (/ Microsoft MVP - Directory Services www.akomolafe.com - we know IT -5.75, -3.23 Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about Yesterday? -anon From: Bernard, Aric Sent: Tue 1/16/2007 5:07 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Who needs that much ram anyway? My understanding is as follows: All three switches address the 32-bit architecture only. Exchange has never supported AWE. Exchange 2007 has RTM'd. Aric -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jose Medeiros Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 2:04 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] Who needs that much ram anyway? What about the 3Gb switch in the boot.in that is required to take advantage of the additional memory. Also depending on the age of the server and CPU, you may also need a PAE / AWE switch. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/283037 Since the final realease of Exchange 2007 will only be 64 bit and require a 64 bit version of Windows 2003 or Longhorn, I am not sure if the switch will be required, any one else know? Jose - Original Message - From: "Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 8:47 AM Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: Who needs that much ram anyway? > Personally I was surprised that a Windows 2003 server and Exchange 2007 > would need a patch to run more than 4 gigs because > "This problem occurs because of a problem in the Windows kernel" > > Seems to me in the x64 era, we're all going to be running more than 4 gigs > so they should bundle this up in the Exchange 2007 installer from the get > go rather than having everyone stumble across a KB article. > > I'm assuming it's discussed in the readme that no one reads? > > > Brian Desmond wrote: >> The more you can get in memory, the better. 32GB is the threshold for >> Exchange before it stops making sense. >> >> I've remoted into SQL servers with dozens of CPUs and dozens of gigs of >> ram before... >> >> Thanks, >> Brian Desmond >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> c - 312.731.3132 >> >> >> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:ActiveDir- >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - >>> SBS Rocks [MVP] >>> Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 4:01 AM >>> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org >>> Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Who needs that much ram anyway? >>> >>> >>> The Microsoft Exchange Information Store service stops responding on >>> a >>> computer that is running Windows Server 2003 and Exchange Server >>> >> 2007 >> >>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=928368 >>> >>> This problem occurs if Exchange Server 2007 is installed on a computer >>> that has more than 4 gigabytes (GB) of RAM. >>> >>> List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx >>> List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx >>> List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx >>> >> List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx >> List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx >> List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx >> >> > > -- > Letting your vendors set your risk analysis these days? > http://www.threatcode.com > > If you are a SBSer and you don't subscribe to the SBS Blog... man ... I > will hunt you down... > http://blogs.technet.com/sbs > > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx > List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx > List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx
RE: [ActiveDir] Who needs that much ram anyway?
My understanding is as follows: All three switches address the 32-bit architecture only. Exchange has never supported AWE. Exchange 2007 has RTM'd. Aric -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jose Medeiros Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 2:04 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] Who needs that much ram anyway? What about the 3Gb switch in the boot.in that is required to take advantage of the additional memory. Also depending on the age of the server and CPU, you may also need a PAE / AWE switch. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/283037 Since the final realease of Exchange 2007 will only be 64 bit and require a 64 bit version of Windows 2003 or Longhorn, I am not sure if the switch will be required, any one else know? Jose - Original Message - From: "Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 8:47 AM Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: Who needs that much ram anyway? > Personally I was surprised that a Windows 2003 server and Exchange 2007 > would need a patch to run more than 4 gigs because > "This problem occurs because of a problem in the Windows kernel" > > Seems to me in the x64 era, we're all going to be running more than 4 gigs > so they should bundle this up in the Exchange 2007 installer from the get > go rather than having everyone stumble across a KB article. > > I'm assuming it's discussed in the readme that no one reads? > > > Brian Desmond wrote: >> The more you can get in memory, the better. 32GB is the threshold for >> Exchange before it stops making sense. >> >> I've remoted into SQL servers with dozens of CPUs and dozens of gigs of >> ram before... >> >> Thanks, >> Brian Desmond >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> c - 312.731.3132 >> >> >> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:ActiveDir- >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - >>> SBS Rocks [MVP] >>> Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 4:01 AM >>> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org >>> Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Who needs that much ram anyway? >>> >>> >>> The Microsoft Exchange Information Store service stops responding on >>> a >>> computer that is running Windows Server 2003 and Exchange Server >>> >> 2007 >> >>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=928368 >>> >>> This problem occurs if Exchange Server 2007 is installed on a computer >>> that has more than 4 gigabytes (GB) of RAM. >>> >>> List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx >>> List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx >>> List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx >>> >> List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx >> List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx >> List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx >> >> > > -- > Letting your vendors set your risk analysis these days? > http://www.threatcode.com > > If you are a SBSer and you don't subscribe to the SBS Blog... man ... I > will hunt you down... > http://blogs.technet.com/sbs > > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx > List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx > List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx
RE: [ActiveDir] Who needs that much ram anyway?
Sorry, that was supposed to say NOT required -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Brunson Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 4:48 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Who needs that much ram anyway? Judging by the Exchange 2007 Microsoft Across America Launch Event that I attended this morning, Exchange 2007 has no limits period. If you want it to block spam, it blocks spam. If you want it to run with a 2000TB store on Standard, it will do it. If you want it to cook you breakfast, that might require the /baconandeggs switch, but it should be able to do that as well. The /baconandeggs switch might be undocumented... Seriously though, I know PAE is not supported on 64-bit, and I think I remember reading that /3GB is required on 64-bit OS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jose Medeiros Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 4:04 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] Who needs that much ram anyway? What about the 3Gb switch in the boot.in that is required to take advantage of the additional memory. Also depending on the age of the server and CPU, you may also need a PAE / AWE switch. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/283037 Since the final realease of Exchange 2007 will only be 64 bit and require a 64 bit version of Windows 2003 or Longhorn, I am not sure if the switch will be required, any one else know? Jose - Original Message - From: "Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 8:47 AM Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: Who needs that much ram anyway? > Personally I was surprised that a Windows 2003 server and Exchange 2007 > would need a patch to run more than 4 gigs because > "This problem occurs because of a problem in the Windows kernel" > > Seems to me in the x64 era, we're all going to be running more than 4 gigs > so they should bundle this up in the Exchange 2007 installer from the get > go rather than having everyone stumble across a KB article. > > I'm assuming it's discussed in the readme that no one reads? > > > Brian Desmond wrote: >> The more you can get in memory, the better. 32GB is the threshold for >> Exchange before it stops making sense. >> >> I've remoted into SQL servers with dozens of CPUs and dozens of gigs of >> ram before... >> >> Thanks, >> Brian Desmond >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> c - 312.731.3132 >> >> >> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:ActiveDir- >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - >>> SBS Rocks [MVP] >>> Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 4:01 AM >>> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org >>> Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Who needs that much ram anyway? >>> >>> >>> The Microsoft Exchange Information Store service stops responding on >>> a >>> computer that is running Windows Server 2003 and Exchange Server >>> >> 2007 >> >>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=928368 >>> >>> This problem occurs if Exchange Server 2007 is installed on a computer >>> that has more than 4 gigabytes (GB) of RAM. >>> >>> List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx >>> List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx >>> List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx >>> >> List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx >> List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx >> List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx >> >> > > -- > Letting your vendors set your risk analysis these days? > http://www.threatcode.com > > If you are a SBSer and you don't subscribe to the SBS Blog... man ... I > will hunt you down... > http://blogs.technet.com/sbs > > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx > List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx > List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx
RE: [ActiveDir] Who needs that much ram anyway?
Judging by the Exchange 2007 Microsoft Across America Launch Event that I attended this morning, Exchange 2007 has no limits period. If you want it to block spam, it blocks spam. If you want it to run with a 2000TB store on Standard, it will do it. If you want it to cook you breakfast, that might require the /baconandeggs switch, but it should be able to do that as well. The /baconandeggs switch might be undocumented... Seriously though, I know PAE is not supported on 64-bit, and I think I remember reading that /3GB is required on 64-bit OS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jose Medeiros Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 4:04 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] Who needs that much ram anyway? What about the 3Gb switch in the boot.in that is required to take advantage of the additional memory. Also depending on the age of the server and CPU, you may also need a PAE / AWE switch. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/283037 Since the final realease of Exchange 2007 will only be 64 bit and require a 64 bit version of Windows 2003 or Longhorn, I am not sure if the switch will be required, any one else know? Jose - Original Message - From: "Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 8:47 AM Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: Who needs that much ram anyway? > Personally I was surprised that a Windows 2003 server and Exchange 2007 > would need a patch to run more than 4 gigs because > "This problem occurs because of a problem in the Windows kernel" > > Seems to me in the x64 era, we're all going to be running more than 4 gigs > so they should bundle this up in the Exchange 2007 installer from the get > go rather than having everyone stumble across a KB article. > > I'm assuming it's discussed in the readme that no one reads? > > > Brian Desmond wrote: >> The more you can get in memory, the better. 32GB is the threshold for >> Exchange before it stops making sense. >> >> I've remoted into SQL servers with dozens of CPUs and dozens of gigs of >> ram before... >> >> Thanks, >> Brian Desmond >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> c - 312.731.3132 >> >> >> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:ActiveDir- >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - >>> SBS Rocks [MVP] >>> Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 4:01 AM >>> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org >>> Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Who needs that much ram anyway? >>> >>> >>> The Microsoft Exchange Information Store service stops responding on >>> a >>> computer that is running Windows Server 2003 and Exchange Server >>> >> 2007 >> >>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=928368 >>> >>> This problem occurs if Exchange Server 2007 is installed on a computer >>> that has more than 4 gigabytes (GB) of RAM. >>> >>> List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx >>> List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx >>> List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx >>> >> List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx >> List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx >> List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx >> >> > > -- > Letting your vendors set your risk analysis these days? > http://www.threatcode.com > > If you are a SBSer and you don't subscribe to the SBS Blog... man ... I > will hunt you down... > http://blogs.technet.com/sbs > > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx > List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx > List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.activedir.org/ma/default.aspx