RE: [ActiveDir] AD Snapshot Tool (ADST) - how useful is it?

2006-06-01 Thread David Adner
I agree with your ideals and wish the folks responsible for these things
did, too, and would do something about it.  I'd say, though, most do not
today for whatever reason.  I base this on empirical data of visiting a
couple hundred different customers for various AD issues.  Some customers
look at me like I'm crazy when I talk about what happens when a DC is
unreachable for greater than the tombstone lifetime interval while too many
look embarrassed and describe how it's already happened to them.  And I'm
not talking about instances where the customer was actually aware of this
happening until it was too late.

As for the tool being free, I don't have any internal knowledge of pricing
or future plans, but I would suspect that's a direction the tool is moving
towards.  The ExBPA is freely downloadable and the same internal group
(different factions, perhaps, but the same overall group) are responsible
for these engagements and tools. 

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> 
> I see your points and think they are more of an argument to 
> find and get the good dedicated knowledgeable people or farm 
> out support to a company who has good knowledgeable people 
> versus get a one time or even once per year consult. That one 
> time consult does nothing to protect the infrastructure over 
> the long term. If companies still to this point, do not 
> understand the importance and criticality of Active Directory 
> to them and it is truly is important and critical, IMO, they 
> deserve anything that happens to them.  
> 
> Too many places, again IMO, run in a state where they assume 
> everything will be running fine and don't get themselves into 
> a position with knowledge and understanding and dedicated 
> resources to handle issues that crop up and so issues that 
> should be small issues or non-issues end up blowing up into 
> disasters. I am aware of one company that took a non-issue 
> that had it been handled by a solid knowledgeable crew would 
> not have been but a blip on a monitor station and turned it 
> into a week long outage. No part of it could have been 
> prevented or probably even hinted at from a "swing on by and 
> try to point out issues" but could easily have been handled 
> by having empowered knowledgeable dedicated resources. Every 
> company needs to ask themselves exactly how long can they go 
> with being 100% down for various resources.
> Most places would be in extremely bad shape if something 
> critical were out for a week. 
> 
> Finally, a tool that looks at an infrastructure and gathers 
> the info together and tells you where the holes are probably 
> shouldn't be an item that costs money from the company 
> producing the infrastructure software... I would expect it to 
> come with the infrastructure components or be a download.
> It isn't like if this were free the support teams at MSFT 
> wouldn't have anything to do...
>  
>   joe
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> The quality of AD admins in even very large orgs varies more 
> than the engineers delivering the RAPs.  I've seen "AD 
> administrators" that literally had no clue what DSRM was, how 
> data is transferred between DCs (doesn't FRS replicate users, 
> too?  Or, AD replication is broken so SYSVOL isn't 
> replicating), the difference between seizing or transferring 
> a FSMO role, etc.  Those aren't even the worse examples of 
> things I've seen.  The information shared during the ADRAP 
> is, in my opinion, among the best available today.  I not 
> saying it's the greatest thing since sliced bread, has 
> nothing that can be improved, never includes bad/wrong info, 
> or that you couldn't come up with something better.  I am 
> saying if you compare it to MOC classes, 3rd party training, 
> etc, you'd be hard pressed to find anything better (besides 
> Dean's class, of course).  Most people administering AD 
> environments do not focus on it as their sole job, lack the 
> fundamental understanding of most of the core components that 
> make up AD, and definitely benefit from workshops like the 
> ADRAP.  The real world, for whatever reason, typically either 
> doesn't seem to be able to find all those highly qualified AD 
> admins you t

RE: [ActiveDir] AD Snapshot Tool (ADST) - how useful is it?

2006-06-01 Thread joe
I see your points and think they are more of an argument to find and get the
good dedicated knowledgeable people or farm out support to a company who has
good knowledgeable people versus get a one time or even once per year
consult. That one time consult does nothing to protect the infrastructure
over the long term. If companies still to this point, do not understand the
importance and criticality of Active Directory to them and it is truly is
important and critical, IMO, they deserve anything that happens to them.  

Too many places, again IMO, run in a state where they assume everything will
be running fine and don't get themselves into a position with knowledge and
understanding and dedicated resources to handle issues that crop up and so
issues that should be small issues or non-issues end up blowing up into
disasters. I am aware of one company that took a non-issue that had it been
handled by a solid knowledgeable crew would not have been but a blip on a
monitor station and turned it into a week long outage. No part of it could
have been prevented or probably even hinted at from a "swing on by and try
to point out issues" but could easily have been handled by having empowered
knowledgeable dedicated resources. Every company needs to ask themselves
exactly how long can they go with being 100% down for various resources.
Most places would be in extremely bad shape if something critical were out
for a week. 

Finally, a tool that looks at an infrastructure and gathers the info
together and tells you where the holes are probably shouldn't be an item
that costs money from the company producing the infrastructure software... I
would expect it to come with the infrastructure components or be a download.
It isn't like if this were free the support teams at MSFT wouldn't have
anything to do...
 
  joe



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Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 12:50 AM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD Snapshot Tool (ADST) - how useful is it?

The quality of AD admins in even very large orgs varies more than the
engineers delivering the RAPs.  I've seen "AD administrators" that literally
had no clue what DSRM was, how data is transferred between DCs (doesn't FRS
replicate users, too?  Or, AD replication is broken so SYSVOL isn't
replicating), the difference between seizing or transferring a FSMO role,
etc.  Those aren't even the worse examples of things I've seen.  The
information shared during the ADRAP is, in my opinion, among the best
available today.  I not saying it's the greatest thing since sliced bread,
has nothing that can be improved, never includes bad/wrong info, or that you
couldn't come up with something better.  I am saying if you compare it to
MOC classes, 3rd party training, etc, you'd be hard pressed to find anything
better (besides Dean's class, of course).  Most people administering AD
environments do not focus on it as their sole job, lack the fundamental
understanding of most of the core components that make up AD, and definitely
benefit from workshops like the ADRAP.  The real world, for whatever reason,
typically either doesn't seem to be able to find all those highly qualified
AD admins you think they should invest in or has decided to not make those
investments.  Now you, and several others in this listserv, would definitely
be yawning through most of the delivery.  However, I'd also say the people
I'm referring to are well above average in their AD knowledge.

As to the challenges of contradicting or silo type mentality when comparing
the ADRAP and ExRAP I agree with you and effort should definitely be to stop
it.  However I wouldn't say those are good reasons to avoid the engagements.
Although your experiences may differ from mine, I don't see so many
instances of dramatic contradictions between the two engagements where
Exchange is blaming AD for massive issues and vice versa.  Resolving the
differences, although a pain and something that shouldn't be necessary,
doesn't significantly de-value the engagements.

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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe
> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 8:00 PM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD Snapshot Tool (ADST) - how useful is it?
> 
> I.E. This is easy money for the company, please don't 
> distribute the tool that collects the data as that is really 
> the whole ADRAP for the most part unless the people getting 
> it really haven't a clue what they are doing with AD at all 
> at which point you should be looking at spending money on 
> getting admins who have a clue versus bringing in MSFT for a 
> one shot peek. 
> 
> Until Microsoft puts together a AD and Exchange RAP that 
> l

RE: [ActiveDir] AD Snapshot Tool (ADST) - how useful is it?

2006-05-31 Thread David Adner
The quality of AD admins in even very large orgs varies more than the
engineers delivering the RAPs.  I've seen "AD administrators" that literally
had no clue what DSRM was, how data is transferred between DCs (doesn't FRS
replicate users, too?  Or, AD replication is broken so SYSVOL isn't
replicating), the difference between seizing or transferring a FSMO role,
etc.  Those aren't even the worse examples of things I've seen.  The
information shared during the ADRAP is, in my opinion, among the best
available today.  I not saying it's the greatest thing since sliced bread,
has nothing that can be improved, never includes bad/wrong info, or that you
couldn't come up with something better.  I am saying if you compare it to
MOC classes, 3rd party training, etc, you'd be hard pressed to find anything
better (besides Dean's class, of course).  Most people administering AD
environments do not focus on it as their sole job, lack the fundamental
understanding of most of the core components that make up AD, and definitely
benefit from workshops like the ADRAP.  The real world, for whatever reason,
typically either doesn't seem to be able to find all those highly qualified
AD admins you think they should invest in or has decided to not make those
investments.  Now you, and several others in this listserv, would definitely
be yawning through most of the delivery.  However, I'd also say the people
I'm referring to are well above average in their AD knowledge.

As to the challenges of contradicting or silo type mentality when comparing
the ADRAP and ExRAP I agree with you and effort should definitely be to stop
it.  However I wouldn't say those are good reasons to avoid the engagements.
Although your experiences may differ from mine, I don't see so many
instances of dramatic contradictions between the two engagements where
Exchange is blaming AD for massive issues and vice versa.  Resolving the
differences, although a pain and something that shouldn't be necessary,
doesn't significantly de-value the engagements.

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe
> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 8:00 PM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD Snapshot Tool (ADST) - how useful is it?
> 
> I.E. This is easy money for the company, please don't 
> distribute the tool that collects the data as that is really 
> the whole ADRAP for the most part unless the people getting 
> it really haven't a clue what they are doing with AD at all 
> at which point you should be looking at spending money on 
> getting admins who have a clue versus bringing in MSFT for a 
> one shot peek. 
> 
> Until Microsoft puts together a AD and Exchange RAP that 
> looks at both together and tries to determine the causes of 
> issues from each other I see the whole RAP thing as having 
> very limited use in Orgs that use AD and Exchange. If you 
> just use AD then it is pretty decent. However if you have 
> both, the Exchange RAP tends to point at AD saying that it 
> has massive issues and the AD RAP tends to say things are 
> pretty decent. Or at least that is the results I have seen in 
> every single case where both RAPs have been performed. 
> Certainly the analysis was nothing to write home about.
> However I expect that entirely depends on who you happen to 
> get in the drawing of who does your analysis, the skill 
> levels vary greatly as I have seen some pretty intelligent 
> things in the analysis and I have seen some absolutely 
> stinkeroo completely incorrect things where you wonder if the 
> analyzer had actually every been introduced to AD.
>  
>  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric 
> Fleischman
> Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:11 PM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD Snapshot Tool (ADST) - how useful is it?
> 
> The tool is not the property of anyone on this list. As such, 
> making it available on the list would be inappropriate.
> 
> The goal of this tool has never been to be a stand-alone AD 
> monitoring tool, nor even a snapshot tool. Rather, it was 
> built specifically around the field offering of an AD risk 
> assessment. As such, outside of that, the tool likely has 
> little context, and may or may not be at all helpful.
> That said, it is available in this context only, to the best 
> of my knowledge.
> 
> ~Eric
> 
> 
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RE: [ActiveDir] AD Snapshot Tool (ADST) - how useful is it?

2006-05-31 Thread joe
I.E. This is easy money for the company, please don't distribute the tool
that collects the data as that is really the whole ADRAP for the most part
unless the people getting it really haven't a clue what they are doing with
AD at all at which point you should be looking at spending money on getting
admins who have a clue versus bringing in MSFT for a one shot peek. 

Until Microsoft puts together a AD and Exchange RAP that looks at both
together and tries to determine the causes of issues from each other I see
the whole RAP thing as having very limited use in Orgs that use AD and
Exchange. If you just use AD then it is pretty decent. However if you have
both, the Exchange RAP tends to point at AD saying that it has massive
issues and the AD RAP tends to say things are pretty decent. Or at least
that is the results I have seen in every single case where both RAPs have
been performed. Certainly the analysis was nothing to write home about.
However I expect that entirely depends on who you happen to get in the
drawing of who does your analysis, the skill levels vary greatly as I have
seen some pretty intelligent things in the analysis and I have seen some
absolutely stinkeroo completely incorrect things where you wonder if the
analyzer had actually every been introduced to AD.
 
 

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Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:11 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD Snapshot Tool (ADST) - how useful is it?

The tool is not the property of anyone on this list. As such, making it
available on the list would be inappropriate.

The goal of this tool has never been to be a stand-alone AD monitoring
tool, nor even a snapshot tool. Rather, it was built specifically around
the field offering of an AD risk assessment. As such, outside of that,
the tool likely has little context, and may or may not be at all
helpful.
That said, it is available in this context only, to the best of my
knowledge.

~Eric


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I missed if anyone was making this tool available to the list?  :)

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RE: [ActiveDir] AD Snapshot Tool (ADST) - how useful is it?

2006-05-09 Thread Eric Fleischman
The tool is not the property of anyone on this list. As such, making it
available on the list would be inappropriate.

The goal of this tool has never been to be a stand-alone AD monitoring
tool, nor even a snapshot tool. Rather, it was built specifically around
the field offering of an AD risk assessment. As such, outside of that,
the tool likely has little context, and may or may not be at all
helpful.
That said, it is available in this context only, to the best of my
knowledge.

~Eric


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I missed if anyone was making this tool available to the list?  :)

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RE: [ActiveDir] AD Snapshot Tool (ADST) - how useful is it?

2006-05-09 Thread Douglas M. Long
I missed if anyone was making this tool available to the list?  :)

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RE: [ActiveDir] AD Snapshot Tool (ADST) - how useful is it?

2006-05-09 Thread Freddy HARTONO
Thanks guys pretty much a gui to most of the tools, but nevertheless gave me
some additional ideas for modding own script. 


Thank you and have a splendid day!
 
Kind Regards,
 
Freddy Hartono
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Jef Kazimer wrote:
> Hmm.reading the PDF at :  
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/5/8/e/58ededaf-4de0-4fd3-b500-8
> a8f6bbfe1f4/ADRAP_Datasheet_v1.0t_English.pdf
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Is this something to have running where MOM is not running?   It seems 
> alot of his can be done via MOM, thought not as slick of a 
> consolidated interface.
> 
>  
> 
> Sort of like a all in one package?

Believe me or not  - not everybody runs MOM :)

ADST was built for different purpose - to provide a way to gather data from
current state of AD (snapshot) to perform further (maybe offline) analysis
and build report.
Off course it may be used as ad-hoc monitoring tool.

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Re: [ActiveDir] AD Snapshot Tool (ADST) - how useful is it?

2006-05-08 Thread Tomasz Onyszko

Jef Kazimer wrote:
Hmm.reading the PDF at :  
http://download.microsoft.com/download/5/8/e/58ededaf-4de0-4fd3-b500-8a8f6bbfe1f4/ADRAP_Datasheet_v1.0t_English.pdf


 

 

Is this something to have running where MOM is not running?   It seems 
alot of his can be done via MOM, thought not as slick of a consolidated 
interface.


 


Sort of like a all in one package?


Believe me or not  - not everybody runs MOM :)

ADST was built for different purpose - to provide a way to gather data
from current state of AD (snapshot) to perform further (maybe offline)
analysis and build report.
Off course it may be used as ad-hoc monitoring tool.

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RE: Re: [ActiveDir] AD Snapshot Tool (ADST) - how useful is it?

2006-05-08 Thread Jef Kazimer


Hmm.reading the PDF at :  http://download.microsoft.com/download/5/8/e/58ededaf-4de0-4fd3-b500-8a8f6bbfe1f4/ADRAP_Datasheet_v1.0t_English.pdf
 
 
Is this something to have running where MOM is not running?   It seems alot of his can be done via MOM, thought not as slick of a consolidated interface.
 
Sort of like a all in one package?
 
Jef



> Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 21:35:13 +0200> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org> Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] AD Snapshot Tool (ADST) - how useful is it?> > Freddy HARTONO wrote:> > Is it useful at all? We are doing the ad risk assessment from microsoft > > (adrap) - anyone has experiences or is using them extensively? Seems to > > be gui mode only?> > > > Thank you and have a splendid day!> > I saw it in action as one of engineers used it and it is useful tool to > gather data and present is - it utilizes a lot of LDAP queries as well > as output from various other tools and scripts, and gives You this "on > the hand" in nice look.> > IMO for people who knows a little about AD this may be really nice tool > to use.> > -- > Tomasz Onyszko> http://www.w2k.pl/blog/ - (PL)> http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/tomek/ - (EN)> List info   : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx> List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx> List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/Enter the Windows Live Mail beta sweepstakes Upgrade today


Re: [ActiveDir] AD Snapshot Tool (ADST) - how useful is it?

2006-05-08 Thread Tomasz Onyszko

Freddy HARTONO wrote:
Is it useful at all? We are doing the ad risk assessment from microsoft 
(adrap) - anyone has experiences or is using them extensively? Seems to 
be gui mode only?


Thank you and have a splendid day!


I saw it in action as one of engineers used it and it is useful tool to 
gather data and present is - it utilizes a lot of LDAP queries as well 
as output from various other tools and scripts, and gives You this "on 
the hand" in nice look.


IMO for people who knows a little about AD this may be really nice tool 
to use.


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RE: [ActiveDir] AD Snapshot Tool (ADST) - how useful is it?

2006-05-08 Thread David Adner
Title: AD Snapshot Tool (ADST) - how useful is it?



The ADST has no direct ties to PSS; it was created by a 
different organization within Microsoft.  It is not a glorified MPSReports, 
if that's what you're thinking.  It collects a myriad of data about the 
configuration of the replication topology, DC's, replication status, FRS status, 
GPO's, DNS, WINS, database, etc.  It includes almost 200 rules to identify 
various items in the data to help ease troubleshooting of 
them.
 
It is only available through the ADRAP (which is only 
conducted by the group who wrote the tool).

  
  
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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 8:19 
  AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: 
  [ActiveDir] AD Snapshot Tool (ADST) - how useful is it?
  
  LOL.
   
  So it's the old PSS scripts wrapped in a web based UI? 
  :)
   
  Does that constitute a risk 
  assessment??
   
   
  neil
  
  
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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Freddy 
  HARTONOSent: 08 May 2006 13:25To: 
  ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD Snapshot 
  Tool (ADST) - how useful is it?
  
  The one provided to you if you have some spare PSS hours 
  for msft engineer to be onsite and do healthcheck on your 
  ad..
   
  
  Thank you and have a splendid 
  day!
   
  Kind 
Regards,
   
  Freddy 
  Hartono
  Group Support 
  Engineer
  InternationalSOS Pte Ltd
  mail: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  phone: (+65) 
  6330-9785
   
   
  
  
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  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 5:07 
  PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: 
  [ActiveDir] AD Snapshot Tool (ADST) - how useful is it?
  
  What is this tool and risk assessment, to which you 
  refer?
   
  I'm intrigued ... :)
   
  neil
  
  
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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Freddy 
  HARTONOSent: 08 May 2006 09:42To: 
  ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] AD Snapshot Tool 
  (ADST) - how useful is it?Importance: Low
  
  Is it useful at all? We are doing the ad risk 
  assessment from microsoft (adrap) - anyone has experiences or is using them 
  extensively? Seems to be gui mode only?
  Thank you and have a splendid day!   Kind 
  Regards,   Freddy Hartono Group Support 
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RE: [ActiveDir] AD Snapshot Tool (ADST) - how useful is it?

2006-05-08 Thread neil.ruston
Title: AD Snapshot Tool (ADST) - how useful is it?



LOL.
 
So it's the old PSS scripts wrapped in a web based UI? 
:)
 
Does that constitute a risk 
assessment??
 
 
neil


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Freddy 
HARTONOSent: 08 May 2006 13:25To: 
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD Snapshot Tool 
(ADST) - how useful is it?

The one provided to you if you have some spare PSS hours 
for msft engineer to be onsite and do healthcheck on your 
ad..
 

Thank you and have a splendid 
day!
 
Kind Regards,
 
Freddy Hartono
Group Support 
Engineer
InternationalSOS Pte Ltd
mail: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
phone: (+65) 
6330-9785
 
 


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 5:07 
PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] 
AD Snapshot Tool (ADST) - how useful is it?

What is this tool and risk assessment, to which you 
refer?
 
I'm intrigued ... :)
 
neil


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Freddy 
HARTONOSent: 08 May 2006 09:42To: 
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] AD Snapshot Tool 
(ADST) - how useful is it?Importance: Low

Is it useful at all? We are doing the ad risk 
assessment from microsoft (adrap) - anyone has experiences or is using them 
extensively? Seems to be gui mode only?
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RE: [ActiveDir] AD Snapshot Tool (ADST) - how useful is it?

2006-05-08 Thread Freddy HARTONO
Title: AD Snapshot Tool (ADST) - how useful is it?



The one provided to you if you have some spare PSS hours 
for msft engineer to be onsite and do healthcheck on your 
ad..
 

Thank you and have a splendid 
day!
 
Kind Regards,
 
Freddy Hartono
Group Support 
Engineer
InternationalSOS Pte Ltd
mail: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
phone: (+65) 
6330-9785
 
 


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 5:07 
PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] 
AD Snapshot Tool (ADST) - how useful is it?

What is this tool and risk assessment, to which you 
refer?
 
I'm intrigued ... :)
 
neil


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Freddy 
HARTONOSent: 08 May 2006 09:42To: 
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] AD Snapshot Tool 
(ADST) - how useful is it?Importance: Low

Is it useful at all? We are doing the ad risk 
assessment from microsoft (adrap) - anyone has experiences or is using them 
extensively? Seems to be gui mode only?
Thank you and have a splendid day!   Kind Regards, 
  Freddy 
Hartono Group Support Engineer 
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RE: [ActiveDir] AD Snapshot Tool (ADST) - how useful is it?

2006-05-08 Thread Freddy HARTONO
Title: AD Snapshot Tool (ADST) - how useful is it?



http://download.microsoft.com/download/5/8/e/58ededaf-4de0-4fd3-b500-8a8f6bbfe1f4/ADRAP_Datasheet_v1.0t_English.pdf
 
or
 
http://download.microsoft.com/download/5/8/e/58ededaf-4de0-4fd3-b500-8a8f6bbfe1f4/Active%20Directory%20Health%20Check%20Program.pdf

Thank you and have a splendid 
day!
 
Kind Regards,
 
Freddy Hartono
Group Support 
Engineer
InternationalSOS Pte Ltd
mail: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
phone: (+65) 
6330-9785
 
 


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 5:07 
PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] 
AD Snapshot Tool (ADST) - how useful is it?

What is this tool and risk assessment, to which you 
refer?
 
I'm intrigued ... :)
 
neil


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Freddy 
HARTONOSent: 08 May 2006 09:42To: 
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] AD Snapshot Tool 
(ADST) - how useful is it?Importance: Low

Is it useful at all? We are doing the ad risk 
assessment from microsoft (adrap) - anyone has experiences or is using them 
extensively? Seems to be gui mode only?
Thank you and have a splendid day!   Kind Regards, 
  Freddy 
Hartono Group Support Engineer 
InternationalSOS Pte Ltd mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: (+65) 6330-9785   
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RE: [ActiveDir] AD Snapshot Tool (ADST) - how useful is it?

2006-05-08 Thread Bahta, Nathaniel V CTR USAF NASIC/SCNA
Title: AD Snapshot Tool (ADST) - how useful is it?



Is that tool available only to organizations undergoing an 
ADRAP?  Do you know if it is available by any other means?  It sounds 
interesting enough.
 
Nate


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 5:07 
AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] 
AD Snapshot Tool (ADST) - how useful is it?

What is this tool and risk assessment, to which you 
refer?
 
I'm intrigued ... :)
 
neil


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Freddy 
HARTONOSent: 08 May 2006 09:42To: 
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] AD Snapshot Tool 
(ADST) - how useful is it?Importance: Low

Is it useful at all? We are doing the ad risk 
assessment from microsoft (adrap) - anyone has experiences or is using them 
extensively? Seems to be gui mode only?
Thank you and have a splendid day!   Kind Regards, 
  Freddy 
Hartono Group Support Engineer 
InternationalSOS Pte Ltd mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: (+65) 6330-9785   
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RE: [ActiveDir] AD Snapshot Tool (ADST) - how useful is it?

2006-05-08 Thread neil.ruston
Title: AD Snapshot Tool (ADST) - how useful is it?



What is this tool and risk assessment, to which you 
refer?
 
I'm intrigued ... :)
 
neil


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Freddy 
HARTONOSent: 08 May 2006 09:42To: 
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] AD Snapshot Tool 
(ADST) - how useful is it?Importance: Low

Is it useful at all? We are doing the ad risk 
assessment from microsoft (adrap) - anyone has experiences or is using them 
extensively? Seems to be gui mode only?
Thank you and have a splendid day!   Kind Regards, 
  Freddy 
Hartono Group Support Engineer 
InternationalSOS Pte Ltd mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: (+65) 6330-9785   
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