RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions
Hope you can make it next year. It looks like we will have around 270 people this year, which is up about 40% from the last one, which ain't too shabby. I guess the pool of experienced (more than a year) admins and architects is still expanding. More than 100 people have signed up for the pre-conference all-day security workshop that Sanjay and Guido are doing. The MMSUG track (MIIS) has more than 50 people signed up as well. -gil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Cliffe Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 10:54 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions Hi all, Sorry for delayed reply to these. Just wanted to thank all who responded. Unfortunately, it looks like this year is still out, but that doesn't mean I can't continue to benefit from the list! The philosophical discussions that arise are as good as the technical ones (obviously referring to the domain admin. thing that keeps coming up)! -DaveC Reuters Infrastructure -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mulnick, Al Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 5:16 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions Can you at least send a substitute chicken so Gil doesn't have to give one away and be left alone? ;) Skis for the chicken would be a bonus. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Renouf, Phil Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 5:13 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions I doubt my old company would still be willing to foot my bill now that I'm moving on. I'll have to make it a priority for next year though. Phil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gil Kirkpatrick Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 5:04 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions Come on Phil, why not start on the 17th? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Renouf, Phil Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 10:49 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions Go figure that after a couple of years of trying to convince someone to send me to DEC I was about to be sent there this year...but I just got a new job that is starting on the 14th so I'll miss it again. Go figure! ;) Have fun at Whistler if you all make it! Phil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gil Kirkpatrick Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 11:56 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions To answer Ken's quesiton directly, DEC is the Directory Experts Conference that NetPro sponsors along with Microsoft and others. It is a technology conference focused entirely on AD and intimately related technologies like DNS, ADFS, etc. The presenters are about a third/a third/a third Microsoft Program Managers, industry consultants (e.g. HP, EDS), and enterprise Active Directory customers. The topics are targeted toward technically savvy engineers, architects, and administrators who have been running AD for a while, i.e., there are no introductory "This is what an OU is" type sessions. There are also no product-pitch sessions... the sessions are all focused on understanding and using AD technology successfully. DEC is also a great place for networking with the Microsoft product team as well as other AD technicians. We've expanded DEC this year to include an MIIS track, which reflects Microsoft's direction of integrating their various IdM technologies. Stuart Kwan (Directory of Program Management for Identity and Access at Microsoft) will be discussing the future of AD, AD/AM, MIIS, ADFS, ID Card, etc. during the keynote. Find out more and register at www.netpro.com/events/dec2005. As far as the ski trip is concerned, they are just rumors. I haven't had a chance to even think about it. But I know some people are planning to head off to Whistler after the conference. I'm not sure I'm ready to give up the Chicken though... :) -gil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 8:00 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Cc: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions I heard a rumor that Gil was organizing a post DEC ski trip to Whistler and there would be a Chinese Downhill to determine who goes home with the rubber chicken. Regards; James R. Day Active Directory Core Team Office of the Chief Information Officer National Park Service (202) 354-1464 (direct) (202) 371-1549 (fax) [EMAIL PROTECTED] |-+--> | | Jorge de Almeida Pinto
RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions
Hi all, Sorry for delayed reply to these. Just wanted to thank all who responded. Unfortunately, it looks like this year is still out, but that doesn't mean I can't continue to benefit from the list! The philosophical discussions that arise are as good as the technical ones (obviously referring to the domain admin. thing that keeps coming up)! -DaveC Reuters Infrastructure -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mulnick, Al Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 5:16 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions Can you at least send a substitute chicken so Gil doesn't have to give one away and be left alone? ;) Skis for the chicken would be a bonus. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Renouf, Phil Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 5:13 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions I doubt my old company would still be willing to foot my bill now that I'm moving on. I'll have to make it a priority for next year though. Phil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gil Kirkpatrick Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 5:04 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions Come on Phil, why not start on the 17th? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Renouf, Phil Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 10:49 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions Go figure that after a couple of years of trying to convince someone to send me to DEC I was about to be sent there this year...but I just got a new job that is starting on the 14th so I'll miss it again. Go figure! ;) Have fun at Whistler if you all make it! Phil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gil Kirkpatrick Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 11:56 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions To answer Ken's quesiton directly, DEC is the Directory Experts Conference that NetPro sponsors along with Microsoft and others. It is a technology conference focused entirely on AD and intimately related technologies like DNS, ADFS, etc. The presenters are about a third/a third/a third Microsoft Program Managers, industry consultants (e.g. HP, EDS), and enterprise Active Directory customers. The topics are targeted toward technically savvy engineers, architects, and administrators who have been running AD for a while, i.e., there are no introductory "This is what an OU is" type sessions. There are also no product-pitch sessions... the sessions are all focused on understanding and using AD technology successfully. DEC is also a great place for networking with the Microsoft product team as well as other AD technicians. We've expanded DEC this year to include an MIIS track, which reflects Microsoft's direction of integrating their various IdM technologies. Stuart Kwan (Directory of Program Management for Identity and Access at Microsoft) will be discussing the future of AD, AD/AM, MIIS, ADFS, ID Card, etc. during the keynote. Find out more and register at www.netpro.com/events/dec2005. As far as the ski trip is concerned, they are just rumors. I haven't had a chance to even think about it. But I know some people are planning to head off to Whistler after the conference. I'm not sure I'm ready to give up the Chicken though... :) -gil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 8:00 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Cc: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions I heard a rumor that Gil was organizing a post DEC ski trip to Whistler and there would be a Chinese Downhill to determine who goes home with the rubber chicken. Regards; James R. Day Active Directory Core Team Office of the Chief Information Officer National Park Service (202) 354-1464 (direct) (202) 371-1549 (fax) [EMAIL PROTECTED] |-+--> | | Jorge de Almeida Pinto | | | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | icacmg.com>| | | Sent by: | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | dir.org| | | | | | | | | 03/01/2005 03:22 PM CET| | | Please respond to ActiveDir| |-+--> >--- ---| | | | To:
RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions
Can you at least send a substitute chicken so Gil doesn't have to give one away and be left alone? ;) Skis for the chicken would be a bonus. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Renouf, Phil Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 5:13 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions I doubt my old company would still be willing to foot my bill now that I'm moving on. I'll have to make it a priority for next year though. Phil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gil Kirkpatrick Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 5:04 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions Come on Phil, why not start on the 17th? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Renouf, Phil Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 10:49 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions Go figure that after a couple of years of trying to convince someone to send me to DEC I was about to be sent there this year...but I just got a new job that is starting on the 14th so I'll miss it again. Go figure! ;) Have fun at Whistler if you all make it! Phil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gil Kirkpatrick Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 11:56 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions To answer Ken's quesiton directly, DEC is the Directory Experts Conference that NetPro sponsors along with Microsoft and others. It is a technology conference focused entirely on AD and intimately related technologies like DNS, ADFS, etc. The presenters are about a third/a third/a third Microsoft Program Managers, industry consultants (e.g. HP, EDS), and enterprise Active Directory customers. The topics are targeted toward technically savvy engineers, architects, and administrators who have been running AD for a while, i.e., there are no introductory "This is what an OU is" type sessions. There are also no product-pitch sessions... the sessions are all focused on understanding and using AD technology successfully. DEC is also a great place for networking with the Microsoft product team as well as other AD technicians. We've expanded DEC this year to include an MIIS track, which reflects Microsoft's direction of integrating their various IdM technologies. Stuart Kwan (Directory of Program Management for Identity and Access at Microsoft) will be discussing the future of AD, AD/AM, MIIS, ADFS, ID Card, etc. during the keynote. Find out more and register at www.netpro.com/events/dec2005. As far as the ski trip is concerned, they are just rumors. I haven't had a chance to even think about it. But I know some people are planning to head off to Whistler after the conference. I'm not sure I'm ready to give up the Chicken though... :) -gil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 8:00 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Cc: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions I heard a rumor that Gil was organizing a post DEC ski trip to Whistler and there would be a Chinese Downhill to determine who goes home with the rubber chicken. Regards; James R. Day Active Directory Core Team Office of the Chief Information Officer National Park Service (202) 354-1464 (direct) (202) 371-1549 (fax) [EMAIL PROTECTED] |-+--> | | Jorge de Almeida Pinto | | | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | icacmg.com>| | | Sent by: | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | dir.org| | | | | | | | | 03/01/2005 03:22 PM CET| | | Please respond to ActiveDir| |-+--> >--- ---| | | | To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org | | cc: (bcc: James Day/Contractor/NPS) | | Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions | >--- ---| is there some way to win that rubber chicken? ;-)) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Myrick, Todd (NIH/CC/DNA) Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 14:55 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions It is a big meeting of AD experts with a guy holding a rubber chicken leading the discussions
RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions
I doubt my old company would still be willing to foot my bill now that I'm moving on. I'll have to make it a priority for next year though. Phil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gil Kirkpatrick Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 5:04 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions Come on Phil, why not start on the 17th? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Renouf, Phil Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 10:49 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions Go figure that after a couple of years of trying to convince someone to send me to DEC I was about to be sent there this year...but I just got a new job that is starting on the 14th so I'll miss it again. Go figure! ;) Have fun at Whistler if you all make it! Phil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gil Kirkpatrick Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 11:56 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions To answer Ken's quesiton directly, DEC is the Directory Experts Conference that NetPro sponsors along with Microsoft and others. It is a technology conference focused entirely on AD and intimately related technologies like DNS, ADFS, etc. The presenters are about a third/a third/a third Microsoft Program Managers, industry consultants (e.g. HP, EDS), and enterprise Active Directory customers. The topics are targeted toward technically savvy engineers, architects, and administrators who have been running AD for a while, i.e., there are no introductory "This is what an OU is" type sessions. There are also no product-pitch sessions... the sessions are all focused on understanding and using AD technology successfully. DEC is also a great place for networking with the Microsoft product team as well as other AD technicians. We've expanded DEC this year to include an MIIS track, which reflects Microsoft's direction of integrating their various IdM technologies. Stuart Kwan (Directory of Program Management for Identity and Access at Microsoft) will be discussing the future of AD, AD/AM, MIIS, ADFS, ID Card, etc. during the keynote. Find out more and register at www.netpro.com/events/dec2005. As far as the ski trip is concerned, they are just rumors. I haven't had a chance to even think about it. But I know some people are planning to head off to Whistler after the conference. I'm not sure I'm ready to give up the Chicken though... :) -gil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 8:00 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Cc: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions I heard a rumor that Gil was organizing a post DEC ski trip to Whistler and there would be a Chinese Downhill to determine who goes home with the rubber chicken. Regards; James R. Day Active Directory Core Team Office of the Chief Information Officer National Park Service (202) 354-1464 (direct) (202) 371-1549 (fax) [EMAIL PROTECTED] |-+--> | | Jorge de Almeida Pinto | | | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | icacmg.com>| | | Sent by: | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | dir.org| | | | | | | | | 03/01/2005 03:22 PM CET| | | Please respond to ActiveDir| |-+--> >--- ---| | | | To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org | | cc: (bcc: James Day/Contractor/NPS) | | Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions | >--- ---| is there some way to win that rubber chicken? ;-)) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Myrick, Todd (NIH/CC/DNA) Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 14:55 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions It is a big meeting of AD experts with a guy holding a rubber chicken leading the discussions. Todd From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 8:49 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions Pardon my ignorance, but what is DEC? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Sullivan Sent: Monday, February
RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions
Come on Phil, why not start on the 17th? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Renouf, Phil Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 10:49 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions Go figure that after a couple of years of trying to convince someone to send me to DEC I was about to be sent there this year...but I just got a new job that is starting on the 14th so I'll miss it again. Go figure! ;) Have fun at Whistler if you all make it! Phil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gil Kirkpatrick Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 11:56 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions To answer Ken's quesiton directly, DEC is the Directory Experts Conference that NetPro sponsors along with Microsoft and others. It is a technology conference focused entirely on AD and intimately related technologies like DNS, ADFS, etc. The presenters are about a third/a third/a third Microsoft Program Managers, industry consultants (e.g. HP, EDS), and enterprise Active Directory customers. The topics are targeted toward technically savvy engineers, architects, and administrators who have been running AD for a while, i.e., there are no introductory "This is what an OU is" type sessions. There are also no product-pitch sessions... the sessions are all focused on understanding and using AD technology successfully. DEC is also a great place for networking with the Microsoft product team as well as other AD technicians. We've expanded DEC this year to include an MIIS track, which reflects Microsoft's direction of integrating their various IdM technologies. Stuart Kwan (Directory of Program Management for Identity and Access at Microsoft) will be discussing the future of AD, AD/AM, MIIS, ADFS, ID Card, etc. during the keynote. Find out more and register at www.netpro.com/events/dec2005. As far as the ski trip is concerned, they are just rumors. I haven't had a chance to even think about it. But I know some people are planning to head off to Whistler after the conference. I'm not sure I'm ready to give up the Chicken though... :) -gil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 8:00 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Cc: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions I heard a rumor that Gil was organizing a post DEC ski trip to Whistler and there would be a Chinese Downhill to determine who goes home with the rubber chicken. Regards; James R. Day Active Directory Core Team Office of the Chief Information Officer National Park Service (202) 354-1464 (direct) (202) 371-1549 (fax) [EMAIL PROTECTED] |-+--> | | Jorge de Almeida Pinto | | | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | icacmg.com>| | | Sent by: | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | dir.org| | | | | | | | | 03/01/2005 03:22 PM CET| | | Please respond to ActiveDir| |-+--> >--- ---| | | | To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org | | cc: (bcc: James Day/Contractor/NPS) | | Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions | >--- ---| is there some way to win that rubber chicken? ;-)) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Myrick, Todd (NIH/CC/DNA) Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 14:55 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions It is a big meeting of AD experts with a guy holding a rubber chicken leading the discussions. Todd From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 8:49 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions Pardon my ignorance, but what is DEC? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Sullivan Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 3:35 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions Hi Dave, This will be my fourth DEC and everyone has been worth it. I think I have learned more at this conference than any other I have attended. It is very focused, intimate and full of some incredibly interesting people who are out there doing it.
RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions
Go figure that after a couple of years of trying to convince someone to send me to DEC I was about to be sent there this year...but I just got a new job that is starting on the 14th so I'll miss it again. Go figure! ;) Have fun at Whistler if you all make it! Phil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gil Kirkpatrick Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 11:56 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions To answer Ken's quesiton directly, DEC is the Directory Experts Conference that NetPro sponsors along with Microsoft and others. It is a technology conference focused entirely on AD and intimately related technologies like DNS, ADFS, etc. The presenters are about a third/a third/a third Microsoft Program Managers, industry consultants (e.g. HP, EDS), and enterprise Active Directory customers. The topics are targeted toward technically savvy engineers, architects, and administrators who have been running AD for a while, i.e., there are no introductory "This is what an OU is" type sessions. There are also no product-pitch sessions... the sessions are all focused on understanding and using AD technology successfully. DEC is also a great place for networking with the Microsoft product team as well as other AD technicians. We've expanded DEC this year to include an MIIS track, which reflects Microsoft's direction of integrating their various IdM technologies. Stuart Kwan (Directory of Program Management for Identity and Access at Microsoft) will be discussing the future of AD, AD/AM, MIIS, ADFS, ID Card, etc. during the keynote. Find out more and register at www.netpro.com/events/dec2005. As far as the ski trip is concerned, they are just rumors. I haven't had a chance to even think about it. But I know some people are planning to head off to Whistler after the conference. I'm not sure I'm ready to give up the Chicken though... :) -gil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 8:00 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Cc: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions I heard a rumor that Gil was organizing a post DEC ski trip to Whistler and there would be a Chinese Downhill to determine who goes home with the rubber chicken. Regards; James R. Day Active Directory Core Team Office of the Chief Information Officer National Park Service (202) 354-1464 (direct) (202) 371-1549 (fax) [EMAIL PROTECTED] |-+--> | | Jorge de Almeida Pinto | | | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | icacmg.com>| | | Sent by: | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | dir.org| | | | | | | | | 03/01/2005 03:22 PM CET| | | Please respond to ActiveDir| |-+--> >--- ---| | | | To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org | | cc: (bcc: James Day/Contractor/NPS) | | Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions | >--- ---| is there some way to win that rubber chicken? ;-)) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Myrick, Todd (NIH/CC/DNA) Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 14:55 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions It is a big meeting of AD experts with a guy holding a rubber chicken leading the discussions. Todd From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 8:49 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions Pardon my ignorance, but what is DEC? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Sullivan Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 3:35 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions Hi Dave, This will be my fourth DEC and everyone has been worth it. I think I have learned more at this conference than any other I have attended. It is very focused, intimate and full of some incredibly interesting people who are out there doing it. The content ranges in complexity but almost all is going to be accessible if you have been working with AD for years. What helps at this show is after the talk you are having conversations with attendees who can clarify topics based o
RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions
Think Firedrill, but on skies going down a hill and the first one that gets there wins. Also, there are no rules. Juxtaposition, It is a mnemonic device. The more outrageous the scene the more you remember. Todd ...man I am on a roll today. -Original Message- From: Kevin Sullivan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 12:42 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions What the f#%$ a Chinese Downhill! Why do the worst movies stick in your head the longest! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 10:00 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Cc: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions I heard a rumor that Gil was organizing a post DEC ski trip to Whistler and there would be a Chinese Downhill to determine who goes home with the rubber chicken. Regards; James R. Day Active Directory Core Team Office of the Chief Information Officer National Park Service (202) 354-1464 (direct) (202) 371-1549 (fax) [EMAIL PROTECTED] |-+--> | | Jorge de Almeida Pinto | | | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | icacmg.com>| | | Sent by: | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | dir.org| | | | | | | | | 03/01/2005 03:22 PM CET| | | Please respond to ActiveDir| |-+--> >--- ---| | | | To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org | | cc: (bcc: James Day/Contractor/NPS) | | Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions | >--- ---| is there some way to win that rubber chicken? ;-)) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Myrick, Todd (NIH/CC/DNA) Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 14:55 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions It is a big meeting of AD experts with a guy holding a rubber chicken leading the discussions. Todd From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 8:49 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions Pardon my ignorance, but what is DEC? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Sullivan Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 3:35 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions Hi Dave, This will be my fourth DEC and everyone has been worth it. I think I have learned more at this conference than any other I have attended. It is very focused, intimate and full of some incredibly interesting people who are out there doing it. The content ranges in complexity but almost all is going to be accessible if you have been working with AD for years. What helps at this show is after the talk you are having conversations with attendees who can clarify topics based on their own experiences as well as provide tips on how it may be applicable to your situation. Like Joe mentioned the ability to have candid conversations with people from Microsoft is also incredibly valuable. There are a slew of Microsoft people there and they are all focused on Directories and surrounding technologies. The networking outside of the Microsoft people is also a great value. Oh yeah, occasionally watching hung over people try to pay attention to deep DNS discussions is sort of fun as well . Being a hung over person trying to pay attention to deep DNS discussions, well, that is not quite as fun! I hope to see you there. Kevin From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Cliffe Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 12:38 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] DEC questions Hi all, Hope you don't mind these... My company has considered the idea of sending a couple of us to the conference, but are wondering if they should use our vouchers to have us attend some AD troubleshooting workshops [by Microsoft] instead. While I don't know any specific details as to what that entails, we've also never been to one of these DECs! Our managers have asked us to justify in writing what we think we'll get out of this
RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions
What the f#%$ a Chinese Downhill! Why do the worst movies stick in your head the longest! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 10:00 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Cc: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions I heard a rumor that Gil was organizing a post DEC ski trip to Whistler and there would be a Chinese Downhill to determine who goes home with the rubber chicken. Regards; James R. Day Active Directory Core Team Office of the Chief Information Officer National Park Service (202) 354-1464 (direct) (202) 371-1549 (fax) [EMAIL PROTECTED] |-+--> | | Jorge de Almeida Pinto | | | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | icacmg.com>| | | Sent by: | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | dir.org| | | | | | | | | 03/01/2005 03:22 PM CET| | | Please respond to ActiveDir| |-+--> >--- ---| | | | To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org | | cc: (bcc: James Day/Contractor/NPS) | | Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions | >--- ---| is there some way to win that rubber chicken? ;-)) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Myrick, Todd (NIH/CC/DNA) Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 14:55 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions It is a big meeting of AD experts with a guy holding a rubber chicken leading the discussions. Todd From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 8:49 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions Pardon my ignorance, but what is DEC? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Sullivan Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 3:35 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions Hi Dave, This will be my fourth DEC and everyone has been worth it. I think I have learned more at this conference than any other I have attended. It is very focused, intimate and full of some incredibly interesting people who are out there doing it. The content ranges in complexity but almost all is going to be accessible if you have been working with AD for years. What helps at this show is after the talk you are having conversations with attendees who can clarify topics based on their own experiences as well as provide tips on how it may be applicable to your situation. Like Joe mentioned the ability to have candid conversations with people from Microsoft is also incredibly valuable. There are a slew of Microsoft people there and they are all focused on Directories and surrounding technologies. The networking outside of the Microsoft people is also a great value. Oh yeah, occasionally watching hung over people try to pay attention to deep DNS discussions is sort of fun as well . Being a hung over person trying to pay attention to deep DNS discussions, well, that is not quite as fun! I hope to see you there. Kevin From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Cliffe Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 12:38 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] DEC questions Hi all, Hope you don't mind these... My company has considered the idea of sending a couple of us to the conference, but are wondering if they should use our vouchers to have us attend some AD troubleshooting workshops [by Microsoft] instead. While I don't know any specific details as to what that entails, we've also never been to one of these DECs! Our managers have asked us to justify in writing what we think we'll get out of this conference, and if it will prove more worthwhile than the MS offering (again - sorry that I don't know exactly *what* that is). Myself? I have 4+ years in a live AD environment, and can honestly say that some of what I've seen written on this list zooms high overhead (!), while other stuff falls right in line, so am hoping that I would be a good candidate to attend. I see m
RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions
To answer Ken's quesiton directly, DEC is the Directory Experts Conference that NetPro sponsors along with Microsoft and others. It is a technology conference focused entirely on AD and intimately related technologies like DNS, ADFS, etc. The presenters are about a third/a third/a third Microsoft Program Managers, industry consultants (e.g. HP, EDS), and enterprise Active Directory customers. The topics are targeted toward technically savvy engineers, architects, and administrators who have been running AD for a while, i.e., there are no introductory "This is what an OU is" type sessions. There are also no product-pitch sessions... the sessions are all focused on understanding and using AD technology successfully. DEC is also a great place for networking with the Microsoft product team as well as other AD technicians. We've expanded DEC this year to include an MIIS track, which reflects Microsoft's direction of integrating their various IdM technologies. Stuart Kwan (Directory of Program Management for Identity and Access at Microsoft) will be discussing the future of AD, AD/AM, MIIS, ADFS, ID Card, etc. during the keynote. Find out more and register at www.netpro.com/events/dec2005. As far as the ski trip is concerned, they are just rumors. I haven't had a chance to even think about it. But I know some people are planning to head off to Whistler after the conference. I'm not sure I'm ready to give up the Chicken though... :) -gil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 8:00 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Cc: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions I heard a rumor that Gil was organizing a post DEC ski trip to Whistler and there would be a Chinese Downhill to determine who goes home with the rubber chicken. Regards; James R. Day Active Directory Core Team Office of the Chief Information Officer National Park Service (202) 354-1464 (direct) (202) 371-1549 (fax) [EMAIL PROTECTED] |-+--> | | Jorge de Almeida Pinto | | | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | icacmg.com>| | | Sent by: | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | dir.org| | | | | | | | | 03/01/2005 03:22 PM CET| | | Please respond to ActiveDir| |-+--> >--- ---| | | | To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org | | cc: (bcc: James Day/Contractor/NPS) | | Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions | >--- ---| is there some way to win that rubber chicken? ;-)) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Myrick, Todd (NIH/CC/DNA) Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 14:55 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions It is a big meeting of AD experts with a guy holding a rubber chicken leading the discussions. Todd From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 8:49 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions Pardon my ignorance, but what is DEC? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Sullivan Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 3:35 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions Hi Dave, This will be my fourth DEC and everyone has been worth it. I think I have learned more at this conference than any other I have attended. It is very focused, intimate and full of some incredibly interesting people who are out there doing it. The content ranges in complexity but almost all is going to be accessible if you have been working with AD for years. What helps at this show is after the talk you are having conversations with attendees who can clarify topics based on their own experiences as well as provide tips on how it may be applicable to your situation. Like Joe mentioned the ability to have candid conversations with people from Microsoft is also incredibly valuable. There are a slew of Microsoft people there and they are all focused on Directories and surrounding technologies. The networking outside of the Microsoft people is also a great value. Oh yeah, occasionally watching hung over people try to
RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions
I heard a rumor that Gil was organizing a post DEC ski trip to Whistler and there would be a Chinese Downhill to determine who goes home with the rubber chicken. Regards; James R. Day Active Directory Core Team Office of the Chief Information Officer National Park Service (202) 354-1464 (direct) (202) 371-1549 (fax) [EMAIL PROTECTED] |-+--> | | Jorge de Almeida Pinto | | | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | icacmg.com>| | | Sent by: | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | dir.org| | | | | | | | | 03/01/2005 03:22 PM CET| | | Please respond to ActiveDir| |-+--> >--| | | | To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org | | cc: (bcc: James Day/Contractor/NPS) | | Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions | >--| is there some way to win that rubber chicken? ;-)) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Myrick, Todd (NIH/CC/DNA) Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 14:55 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions It is a big meeting of AD experts with a guy holding a rubber chicken leading the discussions. Todd From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 8:49 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions Pardon my ignorance, but what is DEC? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Sullivan Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 3:35 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions Hi Dave, This will be my fourth DEC and everyone has been worth it. I think I have learned more at this conference than any other I have attended. It is very focused, intimate and full of some incredibly interesting people who are out there doing it. The content ranges in complexity but almost all is going to be accessible if you have been working with AD for years. What helps at this show is after the talk you are having conversations with attendees who can clarify topics based on their own experiences as well as provide tips on how it may be applicable to your situation. Like Joe mentioned the ability to have candid conversations with people from Microsoft is also incredibly valuable. There are a slew of Microsoft people there and they are all focused on Directories and surrounding technologies. The networking outside of the Microsoft people is also a great value. Oh yeah, occasionally watching hung over people try to pay attention to deep DNS discussions is sort of fun as well . Being a hung over person trying to pay attention to deep DNS discussions, well, that is not quite as fun! I hope to see you there. Kevin From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Cliffe Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 12:38 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] DEC questions Hi all, Hope you don't mind these... My company has considered the idea of sending a couple of us to the conference, but are wondering if they should use our vouchers to have us attend some AD troubleshooting workshops [by Microsoft] instead. While I don't know any specific details as to what that entails, we've also never been to one of these DECs! Our managers have asked us to justify in writing what we think we'll get out of this conference, and if it will prove more worthwhile than the MS offering (again - sorry that I don't know exactly *what* that is). Myself? I have 4+ years in a live AD environment, and can honestly say that some of what I've seen written on this list zooms high overhead (!), while other stuff falls right in line, so am hoping that I would be a good candidate to attend. I see m
RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions
Title: Message is there some way to win that rubber chicken? ;-)) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Myrick, Todd (NIH/CC/DNA)Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 14:55To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions It is a big meeting of AD experts with a guy holding a rubber chicken leading the discussions. Todd From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 8:49 AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions Pardon my ignorance, but what is DEC? -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin SullivanSent: Monday, February 28, 2005 3:35 PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions Hi Dave, This will be my fourth DEC and everyone has been worth it. I think I have learned more at this conference than any other I have attended. It is very focused, intimate and full of some incredibly interesting people who are out there doing it. The content ranges in complexity but almost all is going to be accessible if you have been working with AD for years. What helps at this show is after the talk you are having conversations with attendees who can clarify topics based on their own experiences as well as provide tips on how it may be applicable to your situation. Like Joe mentioned the ability to have candid conversations with people from Microsoft is also incredibly valuable. There are a slew of Microsoft people there and they are all focused on Directories and surrounding technologies. The networking outside of the Microsoft people is also a great value. Oh yeah, occasionally watching hung over people try to pay attention to deep DNS discussions is sort of fun as well . Being a hung over person trying to pay attention to deep DNS discussions, well, that is not quite as fun! I hope to see you there. Kevin From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David CliffeSent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 12:38 PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] DEC questions Hi all, Hope you don't mind these... My company has considered the idea of sending a couple of us to the conference, but are wondering if they should use our vouchers to have us attend some AD troubleshooting workshops [by Microsoft] instead. While I don't know any specific details as to what that entails, we've also never been to one of these DECs! Our managers have asked us to justify in writing what we think we'll get out of this conference, and if it will prove more worthwhile than the MS offering (again - sorry that I don't know exactly *what* that is). Myself? I have 4+ years in a live AD environment, and can honestly say that some of what I've seen written on this list zooms high overhead (!), while other stuff falls right in line, so am hoping that I would be a good candidate to attend. I see many testimonials, etc...on the conf. website, so just hoping to get any brief thoughts from anyone - with many thanks in advance! -DaveC Reuters AITS Infrastructure -Visit our Internet site at http://www.reuters.comGet closer to the financial markets with Reuters Messaging - for moreinformation and to register, visit http://www.reuters.com/messagingAny views expressed in this message are those of the individualsender, except where the sender specifically states them to bethe views of Reuters Ltd. This e-mail and any attachment is for authorised use by the intended recipient(s) only. It may contain proprietary material, confidential information and/or be subject to legal privilege. It should not be copied, disclosed to, retained or used by, any other party. If you are not an intended recipient then please promptly delete this e-mail and any attachment and all copies and inform the sender. Thank you.
RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions
Title: Message It is a big meeting of AD experts with a guy holding a rubber chicken leading the discussions. Todd From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 8:49 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions Pardon my ignorance, but what is DEC? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Sullivan Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 3:35 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions Hi Dave, This will be my fourth DEC and everyone has been worth it. I think I have learned more at this conference than any other I have attended. It is very focused, intimate and full of some incredibly interesting people who are out there doing it. The content ranges in complexity but almost all is going to be accessible if you have been working with AD for years. What helps at this show is after the talk you are having conversations with attendees who can clarify topics based on their own experiences as well as provide tips on how it may be applicable to your situation. Like Joe mentioned the ability to have candid conversations with people from Microsoft is also incredibly valuable. There are a slew of Microsoft people there and they are all focused on Directories and surrounding technologies. The networking outside of the Microsoft people is also a great value. Oh yeah, occasionally watching hung over people try to pay attention to deep DNS discussions is sort of fun as well . Being a hung over person trying to pay attention to deep DNS discussions, well, that is not quite as fun! I hope to see you there. Kevin From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Cliffe Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 12:38 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] DEC questions Hi all, Hope you don't mind these... My company has considered the idea of sending a couple of us to the conference, but are wondering if they should use our vouchers to have us attend some AD troubleshooting workshops [by Microsoft] instead. While I don't know any specific details as to what that entails, we've also never been to one of these DECs! Our managers have asked us to justify in writing what we think we'll get out of this conference, and if it will prove more worthwhile than the MS offering (again - sorry that I don't know exactly *what* that is). Myself? I have 4+ years in a live AD environment, and can honestly say that some of what I've seen written on this list zooms high overhead (!), while other stuff falls right in line, so am hoping that I would be a good candidate to attend. I see many testimonials, etc...on the conf. website, so just hoping to get any brief thoughts from anyone - with many thanks in advance! -DaveC Reuters AITS Infrastructure - Visit our Internet site at http://www.reuters.com Get closer to the financial markets with Reuters Messaging - for more information and to register, visit http://www.reuters.com/messaging Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Reuters Ltd.
RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions
Title: Message DEC = Directory Experts Conference by NETPRO --> http://www.netpro.com/events/dec2005/index.cfm Jorge From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken CornetetSent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 14:49To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions Pardon my ignorance, but what is DEC? -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin SullivanSent: Monday, February 28, 2005 3:35 PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions Hi Dave, This will be my fourth DEC and everyone has been worth it. I think I have learned more at this conference than any other I have attended. It is very focused, intimate and full of some incredibly interesting people who are out there doing it. The content ranges in complexity but almost all is going to be accessible if you have been working with AD for years. What helps at this show is after the talk you are having conversations with attendees who can clarify topics based on their own experiences as well as provide tips on how it may be applicable to your situation. Like Joe mentioned the ability to have candid conversations with people from Microsoft is also incredibly valuable. There are a slew of Microsoft people there and they are all focused on Directories and surrounding technologies. The networking outside of the Microsoft people is also a great value. Oh yeah, occasionally watching hung over people try to pay attention to deep DNS discussions is sort of fun as well . Being a hung over person trying to pay attention to deep DNS discussions, well, that is not quite as fun! I hope to see you there. Kevin From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David CliffeSent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 12:38 PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] DEC questions Hi all, Hope you don't mind these... My company has considered the idea of sending a couple of us to the conference, but are wondering if they should use our vouchers to have us attend some AD troubleshooting workshops [by Microsoft] instead. While I don't know any specific details as to what that entails, we've also never been to one of these DECs! Our managers have asked us to justify in writing what we think we'll get out of this conference, and if it will prove more worthwhile than the MS offering (again - sorry that I don't know exactly *what* that is). Myself? I have 4+ years in a live AD environment, and can honestly say that some of what I've seen written on this list zooms high overhead (!), while other stuff falls right in line, so am hoping that I would be a good candidate to attend. I see many testimonials, etc...on the conf. website, so just hoping to get any brief thoughts from anyone - with many thanks in advance! -DaveC Reuters AITS Infrastructure -Visit our Internet site at http://www.reuters.comGet closer to the financial markets with Reuters Messaging - for moreinformation and to register, visit http://www.reuters.com/messagingAny views expressed in this message are those of the individualsender, except where the sender specifically states them to bethe views of Reuters Ltd. This e-mail and any attachment is for authorised use by the intended recipient(s) only. It may contain proprietary material, confidential information and/or be subject to legal privilege. It should not be copied, disclosed to, retained or used by, any other party. If you are not an intended recipient then please promptly delete this e-mail and any attachment and all copies and inform the sender. Thank you.
RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions
Title: Message Pardon my ignorance, but what is DEC? -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin SullivanSent: Monday, February 28, 2005 3:35 PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions Hi Dave, This will be my fourth DEC and everyone has been worth it. I think I have learned more at this conference than any other I have attended. It is very focused, intimate and full of some incredibly interesting people who are out there doing it. The content ranges in complexity but almost all is going to be accessible if you have been working with AD for years. What helps at this show is after the talk you are having conversations with attendees who can clarify topics based on their own experiences as well as provide tips on how it may be applicable to your situation. Like Joe mentioned the ability to have candid conversations with people from Microsoft is also incredibly valuable. There are a slew of Microsoft people there and they are all focused on Directories and surrounding technologies. The networking outside of the Microsoft people is also a great value. Oh yeah, occasionally watching hung over people try to pay attention to deep DNS discussions is sort of fun as well . Being a hung over person trying to pay attention to deep DNS discussions, well, that is not quite as fun! I hope to see you there. Kevin From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David CliffeSent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 12:38 PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] DEC questions Hi all, Hope you don't mind these... My company has considered the idea of sending a couple of us to the conference, but are wondering if they should use our vouchers to have us attend some AD troubleshooting workshops [by Microsoft] instead. While I don't know any specific details as to what that entails, we've also never been to one of these DECs! Our managers have asked us to justify in writing what we think we'll get out of this conference, and if it will prove more worthwhile than the MS offering (again - sorry that I don't know exactly *what* that is). Myself? I have 4+ years in a live AD environment, and can honestly say that some of what I've seen written on this list zooms high overhead (!), while other stuff falls right in line, so am hoping that I would be a good candidate to attend. I see many testimonials, etc...on the conf. website, so just hoping to get any brief thoughts from anyone - with many thanks in advance! -DaveC Reuters AITS Infrastructure -Visit our Internet site at http://www.reuters.comGet closer to the financial markets with Reuters Messaging - for moreinformation and to register, visit http://www.reuters.com/messagingAny views expressed in this message are those of the individualsender, except where the sender specifically states them to bethe views of Reuters Ltd.
RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions
Hi Dave, This will be my fourth DEC and everyone has been worth it. I think I have learned more at this conference than any other I have attended. It is very focused, intimate and full of some incredibly interesting people who are out there doing it. The content ranges in complexity but almost all is going to be accessible if you have been working with AD for years. What helps at this show is after the talk you are having conversations with attendees who can clarify topics based on their own experiences as well as provide tips on how it may be applicable to your situation. Like Joe mentioned the ability to have candid conversations with people from Microsoft is also incredibly valuable. There are a slew of Microsoft people there and they are all focused on Directories and surrounding technologies. The networking outside of the Microsoft people is also a great value. Oh yeah, occasionally watching hung over people try to pay attention to deep DNS discussions is sort of fun as well . Being a hung over person trying to pay attention to deep DNS discussions, well, that is not quite as fun! I hope to see you there. Kevin From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Cliffe Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 12:38 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] DEC questions Hi all, Hope you don't mind these... My company has considered the idea of sending a couple of us to the conference, but are wondering if they should use our vouchers to have us attend some AD troubleshooting workshops [by Microsoft] instead. While I don't know any specific details as to what that entails, we've also never been to one of these DECs! Our managers have asked us to justify in writing what we think we'll get out of this conference, and if it will prove more worthwhile than the MS offering (again - sorry that I don't know exactly *what* that is). Myself? I have 4+ years in a live AD environment, and can honestly say that some of what I've seen written on this list zooms high overhead (!), while other stuff falls right in line, so am hoping that I would be a good candidate to attend. I see many testimonials, etc...on the conf. website, so just hoping to get any brief thoughts from anyone - with many thanks in advance! -DaveC Reuters AITS Infrastructure - Visit our Internet site at http://www.reuters.com Get closer to the financial markets with Reuters Messaging - for more information and to register, visit http://www.reuters.com/messaging Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Reuters Ltd.
RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions
Hi Dave I’ve only been to one DEC (and even then I had to leave early), but it was by far the best public event I’ve attended. As Al mentioned, even if the agenda content isn’t a 100% match for what you need to know, the contacts you’ll make and the informal chats will more than make up for it. Tony From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Cliffe Sent: 24 February 2005 18:38 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] DEC questions Hi all, Hope you don't mind these... My company has considered the idea of sending a couple of us to the conference, but are wondering if they should use our vouchers to have us attend some AD troubleshooting workshops [by Microsoft] instead. While I don't know any specific details as to what that entails, we've also never been to one of these DECs! Our managers have asked us to justify in writing what we think we'll get out of this conference, and if it will prove more worthwhile than the MS offering (again - sorry that I don't know exactly *what* that is). Myself? I have 4+ years in a live AD environment, and can honestly say that some of what I've seen written on this list zooms high overhead (!), while other stuff falls right in line, so am hoping that I would be a good candidate to attend. I see many testimonials, etc...on the conf. website, so just hoping to get any brief thoughts from anyone - with many thanks in advance! -DaveC Reuters AITS Infrastructure - Visit our Internet site at http://www.reuters.com Get closer to the financial markets with Reuters Messaging - for more information and to register, visit http://www.reuters.com/messaging Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Reuters Ltd.
RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions
If they were both on the table as training ops, I wouldn't even have to think about it, DEC would win. However I think DEC is more concept based than a straight troubleshooting class and I prefer concepts to exact steps to follow. The whole teach to fish versus give a fish thought. Also, you will probably have access to more MS people and specifically more influential MS people at DEC than you will in a troubleshooting class. Even if the class is from MS, the chances are it will be an external MCT teaching the class versus an MS person who can really get feedback up to the product teams if you have some. Even if it is a PSS person giving the training, it seems only a few of them can or will feedback to the dev team. At DEC, you have the PMs of the product teams sitting next to you at the bar drinking beers with you. BTW, this isn't a slam on MCTs, I actually know at least one or two amazing MCTs that do training classes for MS like that. However at least half of them will be at DEC too... As Al mentioned, there is a lot of networking plus you get a very wide range of opinions on how things should be done which is very helpful because otherwise you can get stuck in the mode of solving your issues only with experience you directly have. DEC helps by exposing you to lots of real people running real environments willing to talk about their issues they have worked on. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mulnick, AlSent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 1:10 PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions If I could make a suggestion? Personally, I think DEC would be a better use of time. Not that a troubleshooting class wouldn't be good, but because the DEC will offer something more valuable than what you can otherwise read about: professional contacts. Those same contacts will help you troubleshoot and come up with ideas far past what you'll get from a troubleshooting class. Mechanics of troubleshooting at the class vs. people that really understand it and can be more helpful when things don't fit a mold at DEC. Outside of that, I would say that either could be of value. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David CliffeSent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 12:38 PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] DEC questions Hi all, Hope you don't mind these... My company has considered the idea of sending a couple of us to the conference, but are wondering if they should use our vouchers to have us attend some AD troubleshooting workshops [by Microsoft] instead. While I don't know any specific details as to what that entails, we've also never been to one of these DECs! Our managers have asked us to justify in writing what we think we'll get out of this conference, and if it will prove more worthwhile than the MS offering (again - sorry that I don't know exactly *what* that is). Myself? I have 4+ years in a live AD environment, and can honestly say that some of what I've seen written on this list zooms high overhead (!), while other stuff falls right in line, so am hoping that I would be a good candidate to attend. I see many testimonials, etc...on the conf. website, so just hoping to get any brief thoughts from anyone - with many thanks in advance! -DaveC Reuters AITS Infrastructure -Visit our Internet site at http://www.reuters.comGet closer to the financial markets with Reuters Messaging - for moreinformation and to register, visit http://www.reuters.com/messagingAny views expressed in this message are those of the individualsender, except where the sender specifically states them to bethe views of Reuters Ltd.
RE: [ActiveDir] DEC questions
If I could make a suggestion? Personally, I think DEC would be a better use of time. Not that a troubleshooting class wouldn't be good, but because the DEC will offer something more valuable than what you can otherwise read about: professional contacts. Those same contacts will help you troubleshoot and come up with ideas far past what you'll get from a troubleshooting class. Mechanics of troubleshooting at the class vs. people that really understand it and can be more helpful when things don't fit a mold at DEC. Outside of that, I would say that either could be of value. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David CliffeSent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 12:38 PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] DEC questions Hi all, Hope you don't mind these... My company has considered the idea of sending a couple of us to the conference, but are wondering if they should use our vouchers to have us attend some AD troubleshooting workshops [by Microsoft] instead. While I don't know any specific details as to what that entails, we've also never been to one of these DECs! Our managers have asked us to justify in writing what we think we'll get out of this conference, and if it will prove more worthwhile than the MS offering (again - sorry that I don't know exactly *what* that is). Myself? I have 4+ years in a live AD environment, and can honestly say that some of what I've seen written on this list zooms high overhead (!), while other stuff falls right in line, so am hoping that I would be a good candidate to attend. I see many testimonials, etc...on the conf. website, so just hoping to get any brief thoughts from anyone - with many thanks in advance! -DaveC Reuters AITS Infrastructure -Visit our Internet site at http://www.reuters.comGet closer to the financial markets with Reuters Messaging - for moreinformation and to register, visit http://www.reuters.com/messagingAny views expressed in this message are those of the individualsender, except where the sender specifically states them to bethe views of Reuters Ltd.
