RE: [ActiveDir] DNS Records and GC's
Let's just hope the chicken littles aren't capable of reading this list or it could get worse. :o) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Myrick, Todd (NIH/CIT) Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 2:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DNS Records and GC's Man after reading my response, I am starting to thing I regressed in my ability to communicate clearly. I apologize for all the bad grammar. Todd -Original Message- From: Myrick, Todd (NIH/CIT) Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 2:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DNS Records and GC's Thanks for the second set of eyes. I have an Exchange guy that is trying to argue against the inclusion of AD Integrated DNS zones, because in his POV the number of changes to DNS records would incur would cause the GC's replicate like crazy. I haven't heard anyone really complain to loudly about AD Integrated DNS cause huge problems, and actually the benefit of AD Integrated DNS is the ability to ride on top of AD replication, instead of having a dozen different replication architectures. If you call can't tell as of late, I am catering to a couple of Chicken Little in the office, with all my request for additional information. Todd -Original Message- From: Tony Murray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 1:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] DNS Records and GC's Todd I don't think the delay would be an LDAP referral (although I've been known to be wrong before!). The GC contains all the DNS zone objects and DNS node objects in the forest. The GC doesn't show the more interesting attributes. Neither dnsProperty (for dnsZone objects) nor dnsRecord (for dnsNode objects) are part of the Partial Attribute Set. It appears that the basic info is indeed in the GC, but it's not really that helpful. Tony -- Original Message -- Wrom: XISHJEXXIMQZUIVOTQNQEMSFDULHPQQWOYIYZUNNYCGPKYL Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 10:47:26 -0400 I have a quick question. In Windows 2000. If AD-Integrated storage is used for DNS zone data. Is the data indexed in GC's or is it just the zone info? I used LDP to connect to a GC, and I was able to browse the NC of a domain that had AD-Integrated DNS. When it came to looking at the data within the DNS zone it took a while to get that info, leading me to think it might have required a referral to get the extended information. Thanks, Todd List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ Sent via the WebMail system at mail.activedir.org List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
Re: [ActiveDir] DNS Records and GC's
Todd I don't think the delay would be an LDAP referral (although I've been known to be wrong before!). The GC contains all the DNS zone objects and DNS node objects in the forest. The GC doesn't show the more interesting attributes. Neither dnsProperty (for dnsZone objects) nor dnsRecord (for dnsNode objects) are part of the Partial Attribute Set. It appears that the basic info is indeed in the GC, but it's not really that helpful. Tony -- Original Message -- Wrom: XISHJEXXIMQZUIVOTQNQEMSFDULHPQQWOYIYZUNNYCGPKYL Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 10:47:26 -0400 I have a quick question. In Windows 2000. If AD-Integrated storage is used for DNS zone data. Is the data indexed in GC's or is it just the zone info? I used LDP to connect to a GC, and I was able to browse the NC of a domain that had AD-Integrated DNS. When it came to looking at the data within the DNS zone it took a while to get that info, leading me to think it might have required a referral to get the extended information. Thanks, Todd List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ Sent via the WebMail system at mail.activedir.org List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] DNS Records and GC's
Thanks for the second set of eyes. I have an Exchange guy that is trying to argue against the inclusion of AD Integrated DNS zones, because in his POV the number of changes to DNS records would incur would cause the GC's replicate like crazy. I haven't heard anyone really complain to loudly about AD Integrated DNS cause huge problems, and actually the benefit of AD Integrated DNS is the ability to ride on top of AD replication, instead of having a dozen different replication architectures. If you call can't tell as of late, I am catering to a couple of Chicken Little in the office, with all my request for additional information. Todd -Original Message- From: Tony Murray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 1:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] DNS Records and GC's Todd I don't think the delay would be an LDAP referral (although I've been known to be wrong before!). The GC contains all the DNS zone objects and DNS node objects in the forest. The GC doesn't show the more interesting attributes. Neither dnsProperty (for dnsZone objects) nor dnsRecord (for dnsNode objects) are part of the Partial Attribute Set. It appears that the basic info is indeed in the GC, but it's not really that helpful. Tony -- Original Message -- Wrom: XISHJEXXIMQZUIVOTQNQEMSFDULHPQQWOYIYZUNNYCGPKYL Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 10:47:26 -0400 I have a quick question. In Windows 2000. If AD-Integrated storage is used for DNS zone data. Is the data indexed in GC's or is it just the zone info? I used LDP to connect to a GC, and I was able to browse the NC of a domain that had AD-Integrated DNS. When it came to looking at the data within the DNS zone it took a while to get that info, leading me to think it might have required a referral to get the extended information. Thanks, Todd List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ Sent via the WebMail system at mail.activedir.org List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] DNS Records and GC's
Man after reading my response, I am starting to thing I regressed in my ability to communicate clearly. I apologize for all the bad grammar. Todd -Original Message- From: Myrick, Todd (NIH/CIT) Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 2:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DNS Records and GC's Thanks for the second set of eyes. I have an Exchange guy that is trying to argue against the inclusion of AD Integrated DNS zones, because in his POV the number of changes to DNS records would incur would cause the GC's replicate like crazy. I haven't heard anyone really complain to loudly about AD Integrated DNS cause huge problems, and actually the benefit of AD Integrated DNS is the ability to ride on top of AD replication, instead of having a dozen different replication architectures. If you call can't tell as of late, I am catering to a couple of Chicken Little in the office, with all my request for additional information. Todd -Original Message- From: Tony Murray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 1:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] DNS Records and GC's Todd I don't think the delay would be an LDAP referral (although I've been known to be wrong before!). The GC contains all the DNS zone objects and DNS node objects in the forest. The GC doesn't show the more interesting attributes. Neither dnsProperty (for dnsZone objects) nor dnsRecord (for dnsNode objects) are part of the Partial Attribute Set. It appears that the basic info is indeed in the GC, but it's not really that helpful. Tony -- Original Message -- Wrom: XISHJEXXIMQZUIVOTQNQEMSFDULHPQQWOYIYZUNNYCGPKYL Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 10:47:26 -0400 I have a quick question. In Windows 2000. If AD-Integrated storage is used for DNS zone data. Is the data indexed in GC's or is it just the zone info? I used LDP to connect to a GC, and I was able to browse the NC of a domain that had AD-Integrated DNS. When it came to looking at the data within the DNS zone it took a while to get that info, leading me to think it might have required a referral to get the extended information. Thanks, Todd List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ Sent via the WebMail system at mail.activedir.org List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] DNS Records and GC's
Easy to fix this. Tell your Exchange guy to show you the Matrix he's looking at to draw his replicate like crazy conclusion. Then tell him that AD-intg can easily be reversed IF crazy things start happening. From where I'm standing, AD-intg does not induce crazy behaviors. Oftentime, when you get crazy behaviors, it will be caused by something else. There are attributes that are not indexed by design, and there are occassion for referrals and Exchange (or more accurately, Outlook) will sometimes complain during referral chasing. But, these have nothing to do with your DNS. Sincerely, Dèjì Akómöláfé, MCSE MCSA MCP+I Microsoft MVP - Directory Services www.readymaids.com - we know IT www.akomolafe.com Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about Yesterday? -anon From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Myrick, Todd (NIH/CIT) Sent: Mon 6/28/2004 11:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] DNS Records and GC's Thanks for the second set of eyes. I have an Exchange guy that is trying to argue against the inclusion of AD Integrated DNS zones, because in his POV the number of changes to DNS records would incur would cause the GC's replicate like crazy. I haven't heard anyone really complain to loudly about AD Integrated DNS cause huge problems, and actually the benefit of AD Integrated DNS is the ability to ride on top of AD replication, instead of having a dozen different replication architectures. If you call can't tell as of late, I am catering to a couple of Chicken Little in the office, with all my request for additional information. Todd -Original Message- From: Tony Murray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 1:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] DNS Records and GC's Todd I don't think the delay would be an LDAP referral (although I've been known to be wrong before!). The GC contains all the DNS zone objects and DNS node objects in the forest. The GC doesn't show the more interesting attributes. Neither dnsProperty (for dnsZone objects) nor dnsRecord (for dnsNode objects) are part of the Partial Attribute Set. It appears that the basic info is indeed in the GC, but it's not really that helpful. Tony -- Original Message -- Wrom: XISHJEXXIMQZUIVOTQNQEMSFDULHPQQWOYIYZUNNYCGPKYL Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 10:47:26 -0400 I have a quick question. In Windows 2000. If AD-Integrated storage is used for DNS zone data. Is the data indexed in GC's or is it just the zone info? I used LDP to connect to a GC, and I was able to browse the NC of a domain that had AD-Integrated DNS. When it came to looking at the data within the DNS zone it took a while to get that info, leading me to think it might have required a referral to get the extended information. Thanks, Todd List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ Sent via the WebMail system at mail.activedir.org List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
