RE: [ActiveDir] Replication Satellite Links

2002-11-15 Thread Roger Seielstad
Two things.

First - why is SMTP replication not an option? That seems like needlessly
removing the correct answer to the problem. SMTP replication is designed for
high latency, low bandwidth links.

Second - Have you considered not putting a DC there at all? If it's a small
site, it might be worth having them authenticate across the Wan. The more I
think about it, that's probably not a great option, however.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
Atlanta, GA


 -Original Message-
 From: David Rudolph [mailto:david_rudolph;anadarko.COM] 
 Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 5:58 PM
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: [ActiveDir] Replication  Satellite Links
 
 
 Our company is considering options for supporting a new 
 branch office location.  Connectivity to the office can only 
 be accomplished via a satellite link. I'm aware of the 
 problems of RPC-based replication over high latency links. 
 SMTP-based replication is not an option. The link in question 
 would be 512K. My question is does anybody know the threshold 
 where latency will begin to adversely affect replication? I'd 
 like to be able to tell management that we could live with x 
 latency but nothing more.  
  
 Thanks in advance. 
  
 David Rudolph
 Anadarko Petroleum Corporation 
 
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RE: [ActiveDir] Replication Satellite Links

2002-11-15 Thread Sullivan, Kevin
Title: Message









I am guessing you have but just in case.
Have you looked for recommendations from the Branch Office Guide?



http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url="/technet/prodtechnol/ad/windows2000/deploy/adguide/DEFAULT.asp



I have found it pretty helpful. I am
interested in the answer to Rogers question as well, why is SMTP not an
option?



Kevin



-Original Message-
From: David Rudolph
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Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002
5:58 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: [ActiveDir] Replication
 Satellite Links





Our company is considering options
for supporting a new branch office location. Connectivity to the office
can only be accomplished via a satellite link. I'm aware of the problems of
RPC-based replication over high latency links. SMTP-based replication is not an
option. The link in question would be 512K. My question is does anybody know
the threshold where latency will begin to adversely affect replication? I'd
like to be able to tell management that we could live with x latency but
nothing more. 











Thanks in advance. 









David Rudolph

Anadarko Petroleum Corporation








RE: [ActiveDir] Replication Satellite Links

2002-11-15 Thread Roger Seielstad
If you're not going to put a DC there replication is irrelevant.

I don't, however, remember what the timeouts for logins are - but they're
usually pretty long, IIRC

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
Atlanta, GA


 -Original Message-
 From: David Rudolph [mailto:david_rudolph;anadarko.COM] 
 Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 12:58 PM
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Replication  Satellite Links
 
 
 Roger,
 
 In answer to your first question--SMTP is not desirable 
 because it would
 necessitate a separate domain.  We currently have only 2 
 domains (one of
 which is an empty root) and prefer not to add another if at all
 possible. We've invested a lot of time to clean up our NT domains and
 don't want to head down the road of multiple domains again. 
 
 Second- My intention is not to put a DC at the location. The 
 location is
 fairly small (50). I'd still like to have a better idea of what is
 acceptable latency in case other options for connectivity become
 available (i.e., microwave). 
 
 Dave
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:roger.seielstad;inovis.com] 
 Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 7:16 AM
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Replication  Satellite Links
 
 
 Two things.
 
 First - why is SMTP replication not an option? That seems like
 needlessly removing the correct answer to the problem. SMTP 
 replication
 is designed for high latency, low bandwidth links.
 
 Second - Have you considered not putting a DC there at all? If it's a
 small site, it might be worth having them authenticate across the Wan.
 The more I think about it, that's probably not a great 
 option, however.
 
 --
 Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
 Sr. Systems Administrator
 Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
 Atlanta, GA
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: David Rudolph [mailto:david_rudolph;anadarko.COM]
  Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 5:58 PM
  To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
  Subject: [ActiveDir] Replication  Satellite Links
  
  
  Our company is considering options for supporting a new
  branch office location.  Connectivity to the office can only 
  be accomplished via a satellite link. I'm aware of the 
  problems of RPC-based replication over high latency links. 
  SMTP-based replication is not an option. The link in question 
  would be 512K. My question is does anybody know the threshold 
  where latency will begin to adversely affect replication? I'd 
  like to be able to tell management that we could live with x 
  latency but nothing more.  
   
  Thanks in advance.
   
  David Rudolph
  Anadarko Petroleum Corporation
  
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RE: [ActiveDir] Replication Satellite Links

2002-11-14 Thread John F. Hann
Title: Message



I had 
240 branches over 256K and latency was around 45 minutes...But I did have 
replication at every 30 minutes over the 256K links. When we started we 
were at 2hrs for replication and that was not a good 
scenario.

  -Original Message-From: 
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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David 
  RudolphSent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 4:58 PMTo: 
  '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: [ActiveDir] Replication 
   Satellite Links
  Our company is 
  considering options for supporting a new branch office location. 
  Connectivity to the office can only be accomplished via a satellite link. I'm 
  aware of the problems of RPC-based replication over high latency links. 
  SMTP-based replication is not an option. The link in question would be 512K. 
  My question is does anybody know the threshold where latency will begin to 
  adversely affect replication? I'd like to be able to tell management that we 
  could live with x latency but nothing more. 
  
  Thanks in advance. 
  
  
  
  David Rudolph
  Anadarko Petroleum 
  Corporation