RE: [ActiveDir] ability to create container objects not in ADUC
http://www.microsoft.com/WINDOWS2000/techinfo/howitworks/activedirectory/glo ssary.asp container -- a special type of Active Directory object. A container is like other directory objects in that it has attributes and is part of the Active Directory namespace. However, unlike other objects, it does not usually represent something concrete. It is the container for a group of objects and other containers. organizational unit (OU) -- a container object that is an Active Directory administrative partition. OUs can contain users, groups, resources, and other OUs. Organizational Units enable the delegation of administration to distinct subtrees of the directory. Thanks... ... ... ... Sergio J. Olivarez - Contractor Phone # (520) 538-2909 DSN: 879-2909 [EMAIL PROTECTED] GD-NS -Original Message- From: Mark Parris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 4:23 PM To: ActiveDir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] ability to create container objects not in ADUC A container is not an OU. -Original Message- From: Olivarez, Sergio J Mr ANOSC/FCBS [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 15:26:22 To:ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] ability to create container objects not in ADUC What kind of container? An OU is a container. Thanks... ... ... ... Sergio J. Olivarez - Contractor GD-NS -Original Message- From: Thommes, Michael M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 3:11 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] ability to create container objects not in ADUC Is there a technical reason why the ability to create a new container is not available in the Active Directory Users and Computers (ADUC) mmc? (Sorry if this is a dumb question.) Mike Thommes List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] ability to create container objects not in ADUC
No ...I thought at one point you could, but, I'm not the GUI expert. What are you trying to accomplish? Thanks, Brian Desmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] c - 312.731.3132 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thommes, Michael M. Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 5:12 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] ability to create container objects not in ADUC Is there a technical reason why the ability to create a new container is not available in the Active Directory Users and Computers (ADUC) mmc? (Sorry if this is a dumb question.) Mike Thommes List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] ability to create container objects not in ADUC
If memory serves, it was a choice ... not a technical reason - Locate the schema definition for the structural class in question within the schema NC using ADSIEDIT.MSC or equiv. (in this case, a Container), bring up its properties and set DefaultHidingValue to FALSE. -- Dean Wells MSEtechnology * Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://msetechnology.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thommes, Michael M. Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 5:11 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] ability to create container objects not in ADUC Is there a technical reason why the ability to create a new container is not available in the Active Directory Users and Computers (ADUC) mmc? (Sorry if this is a dumb question.) Mike Thommes List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] ability to create container objects not in ADUC
What kind of container? An OU is a container. Thanks... ... ... ... Sergio J. Olivarez - Contractor GD-NS -Original Message- From: Thommes, Michael M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 3:11 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] ability to create container objects not in ADUC Is there a technical reason why the ability to create a new container is not available in the Active Directory Users and Computers (ADUC) mmc? (Sorry if this is a dumb question.) Mike Thommes List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
Re: [ActiveDir] ability to create container objects not in ADUC
A container is not an OU. -Original Message- From: Olivarez, Sergio J Mr ANOSC/FCBS [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 15:26:22 To:ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] ability to create container objects not in ADUC What kind of container? An OU is a container. Thanks... ... ... ... Sergio J. Olivarez - Contractor GD-NS -Original Message- From: Thommes, Michael M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 3:11 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] ability to create container objects not in ADUC Is there a technical reason why the ability to create a new container is not available in the Active Directory Users and Computers (ADUC) mmc? (Sorry if this is a dumb question.) Mike Thommes List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] ability to create container objects not in ADUC
However, the opposite is true. An OU *is* a container. Look at the schema inheritance. Thanks, Brian Desmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] c - 312.731.3132 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Parris Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 6:23 PM To: ActiveDir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] ability to create container objects not in ADUC A container is not an OU. -Original Message- From: Olivarez, Sergio J Mr ANOSC/FCBS [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 15:26:22 To:ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] ability to create container objects not in ADUC What kind of container? An OU is a container. Thanks... ... ... ... Sergio J. Olivarez - Contractor GD-NS -Original Message- From: Thommes, Michael M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 3:11 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] ability to create container objects not in ADUC Is there a technical reason why the ability to create a new container is not available in the Active Directory Users and Computers (ADUC) mmc? (Sorry if this is a dumb question.) Mike Thommes List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] ability to create container objects not in ADUC
Oy. There are classes that function as containers and there is an actual class called container. I figure the question is why can't you create objectclass container objects via ADUC. Obviously you can create container objects, since users, computers, OUs, blah blah blah are all containers. Anyway, from my recollection, it is because MS figured no one would want to do it because containers can't have GPOs applied to them, only OUs, Sites, and domainDNS objects. Allowing the ability to create objectclass container objects almost certainly would have been a nightmare for PSS as people didn't understand what they were doing and created objectclass container objects and couldn't apply GPOs. -- O'Reilly Active Directory Third Edition - http://www.joeware.net/win/ad3e.htm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Desmond Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 6:48 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] ability to create container objects not in ADUC However, the opposite is true. An OU *is* a container. Look at the schema inheritance. Thanks, Brian Desmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] c - 312.731.3132 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Parris Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 6:23 PM To: ActiveDir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] ability to create container objects not in ADUC A container is not an OU. -Original Message- From: Olivarez, Sergio J Mr ANOSC/FCBS [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 15:26:22 To:ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] ability to create container objects not in ADUC What kind of container? An OU is a container. Thanks... ... ... ... Sergio J. Olivarez - Contractor GD-NS -Original Message- From: Thommes, Michael M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 3:11 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] ability to create container objects not in ADUC Is there a technical reason why the ability to create a new container is not available in the Active Directory Users and Computers (ADUC) mmc? (Sorry if this is a dumb question.) Mike Thommes List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
