Re: help:sprectralogic library element

2003-06-24 Thread Hunny Kershaw
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(Blibname. Select 6 to open and 8 for element count. Option 9 inventory
(Bshould show you the element addresses of the drives.
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Re: Yikes LTO2 problem!?!

2003-06-24 Thread Frost, Dave
Matthew,

Have you had any interesting records in /var/adm/messages that you can
match up to when one or more of the tapes was mounted?  (ANR8468I  volume
x dismounted is a good search key).

We have only seen this on san-attached devices, and then only when a RSCN
has occurred on the fabric.  During reads or writes a block will be
silently dropped.  Reads are recoverable...


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 Tivoli support said to turn on CRCchecking.
 I say, uh yeah, I already know my data is bad.

 Looks like I gotta try and figure out which drive/disk/scsi
 card is causing the problem myself.

Is there any activity log data from the time the data was written to the
problem volume(s) that shows any problems with the writes? If so, then
that would be useful for Level 2 to have. If not, then determining how it
got that way is difficult at best.

I do not believe the suggestion to turn on CRC checking is intended as the
cure. Rather, it is intended as a diagnostic aid to try to catch any new
instances of incorrectly written data as they occur, which would help
pinpoint the problem. (Just my take from my admittedly cursory review of
your PMR.)

Regards,

Andy

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Problem:
Lots and lots of tapes reporting errors when, auditing, copying,
moving
data from them...

06/23/03   10:52:37  ANRD pvrntp.c(4586): ThreadId15 Invalid
block header read from NTP drive DRIVE5 (/dev/rmt/10st).(magic=5A4D4E50,
ver=5, Hdr blk=1450 expected 1451, dbytes=262096 262096)

(Thus thousands of files on several tapes are unreadable)

TSM Server 5.1.6.3 on Solaris 9 (Sun V880 server)
IBMtape 4.0.7.3
8 LTO2 drives in IBM 3584 library (SCSI not Fiber attached) ( firmware
version 3641)

Hmm, all my testing of filling/restoring a few tapes of data said I could
backup/restore fine...
But the day after the system goes into production and we start moving real
data to these tapes, whammo..

Tivoli support said to turn on CRCchecking.
I say, uh yeah, I already know my data is bad.

Looks like I gotta try and figure out which drive/disk/scsi card is
causing
the problem myself.

Any suggestions?

Thanks
  Matt G


looking for a doc which tracks messages format changes for actlog

2003-06-24 Thread David Rigaudiere
Hi *SMers,
anyone knows a documentation where we can find the changes about the
messages in the actlog ?
ie with 5.1.7.0 the ANE4987E message changed.
The space between folder and file name has been removed.

maybee a CHANGE file ?

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help:recovery log mode

2003-06-24 Thread
Hi all,my logvol have total space only 300MB and my log mode is rollforward,and my 
hard disk have no more sapce.About 1 month later ,the space will be fulled,how can I 
solve this?

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2003-06-24


TSM on AIX and 3494 library problem...

2003-06-24 Thread Przemysaw Maciuszko
Hello.
Some time ago we had a problem with 'no drives available'.
It was in 5.1.5.x and 5.1.6.x times.
Few weekes ago we did upgrade to 5.1.7.0 and yesterday problem occured again
:(
The symptoms are:
1. In actlog:

24-06-2003 06:20:03 ANR8447E No drives are currently available in library ROBOCOP. 


2. 'q mount':
tsm: GWTSMq mount
Session established with server GWTSM: AIX-RS/6000
  Server Version 5, Release 1, Level 7.0
  Server date/time: 2003-06-24 07:51:14  Last access: 2003-06-23 16:05:56

ANR8329I 3590 volume 000374 is mounted R/W in drive D11 (/dev/rmt5), status: IDLE.
ANR8329I 3590 volume 000514 is mounted R/W in drive D20 (/dev/rmt0), status: IDLE.
ANR8329I 3590 volume 000101 is mounted R/W in drive D21 (/dev/rmt1), status: IDLE.
ANR8329I 3590 volume 000366 is mounted R/O in drive D01 (/dev/rmt2), status: IDLE.
ANR8329I 3590 volume 004278 is mounted R/W in drive D00 (/dev/rmt8), status: IDLE.
ANR8329I 3590 volume 000599 is mounted R/W in drive D31 (/dev/rmt3), status: IDLE.
ANR8334I 6 matches found.

We have 8 overall drives in this library...

I don't know where the problem lies. Manual dismounting of all idle volumes
helps, but it's not a solution :(


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AW: TSM on AIX and 3494 library problem...

2003-06-24 Thread Schaub Joachim Paul ABX-SECE-ZH
are all drives online?
does another application use the drives?
how is the mount retention parameter of the dev-class set?
do you have other information from the 3494 interface?

regards
joachim

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Hello.
Some time ago we had a problem with 'no drives available'.
It was in 5.1.5.x and 5.1.6.x times.
Few weekes ago we did upgrade to 5.1.7.0 and yesterday problem occured again
:(
The symptoms are:
1. In actlog:

24-06-2003 06:20:03 ANR8447E No drives are currently available in library
ROBOCOP. 

2. 'q mount':
tsm: GWTSMq mount
Session established with server GWTSM: AIX-RS/6000
  Server Version 5, Release 1, Level 7.0
  Server date/time: 2003-06-24 07:51:14  Last access: 2003-06-23 16:05:56

ANR8329I 3590 volume 000374 is mounted R/W in drive D11 (/dev/rmt5), status:
IDLE.
ANR8329I 3590 volume 000514 is mounted R/W in drive D20 (/dev/rmt0), status:
IDLE.
ANR8329I 3590 volume 000101 is mounted R/W in drive D21 (/dev/rmt1), status:
IDLE.
ANR8329I 3590 volume 000366 is mounted R/O in drive D01 (/dev/rmt2), status:
IDLE.
ANR8329I 3590 volume 004278 is mounted R/W in drive D00 (/dev/rmt8), status:
IDLE.
ANR8329I 3590 volume 000599 is mounted R/W in drive D31 (/dev/rmt3), status:
IDLE.
ANR8334I 6 matches found.

We have 8 overall drives in this library...

I don't know where the problem lies. Manual dismounting of all idle volumes
helps, but it's not a solution :(


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Re: AW: TSM on AIX and 3494 library problem...

2003-06-24 Thread Przemysaw Maciuszko
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 12:14:29PM +0200, Schaub Joachim Paul ABX-SECE-ZH wrote:

 are all drives online?

Yes.

 does another application use the drives?

No. Drives with mounts in 'idle' status, are not being used by any processes
or sessions.

 how is the mount retention parameter of the dev-class set?

I think standard (60 minutes)

 do you have other information from the 3494 interface?

No. No errors on library :(


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Re: AW: TSM on AIX and 3494 library problem...

2003-06-24 Thread Magura, Curtis
How about q path? Are they all showing online?

Curt Magura
Lockheed Martin EIS
Orlando Fla.
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 12:14:29PM +0200, Schaub Joachim Paul ABX-SECE-ZH
wrote:

 are all drives online?

Yes.

 does another application use the drives?

No. Drives with mounts in 'idle' status, are not being used by any processes
or sessions.

 how is the mount retention parameter of the dev-class set?

I think standard (60 minutes)

 do you have other information from the 3494 interface?

No. No errors on library :(


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Agora SA


Re: AW: TSM on AIX and 3494 library problem...

2003-06-24 Thread Przemysaw Maciuszko
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 07:03:54AM -0400, Magura, Curtis wrote:

 How about q path? Are they all showing online?

Oh. That's it. 2 drives are in offline state...


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Re: how to retrieve expired files

2003-06-24 Thread Chandrasekhar, C.R
Mustafa Baytar,

Yes!!! you can retrieve expired data by restoring old database.

All the best

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Systems Executive.
Tivoli Certified Consultant (TSM).
TIMKEN Engineering  Research - INDIA (P) Ltd., Bangalore.
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Subject: how to retrieve expired files


Hi all ,

We have files that have been expired before 4 days , Can i retrieve them if
i perform  database
restore from db backup that is taken before 5 days?
The files were residing in non writtable CD before expiration.

Any experience ?

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Re: help:recovery log mode

2003-06-24 Thread Anderson F. Nobre
Enable a dbbackuptrigger.

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Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 6:41 AM
Subject: help:recovery log mode


Hi all,my logvol have total space only 300MB and my log mode is
rollforward,and my hard disk have no more sapce.About 1 month later ,the
space will be fulled,how can I solve this?

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2003-06-24


Re: TSM on AIX and 3494 library problem...

2003-06-24 Thread Anderson F. Nobre
Update the device class mount retention option for 1 minute.

- Original Message -
From: Przemysaw Maciuszko [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 7:14 AM
Subject: TSM on AIX and 3494 library problem...


Hello.
Some time ago we had a problem with 'no drives available'.
It was in 5.1.5.x and 5.1.6.x times.
Few weekes ago we did upgrade to 5.1.7.0 and yesterday problem occured again
:(
The symptoms are:
1. In actlog:

24-06-2003 06:20:03 ANR8447E No drives are currently available in library
ROBOCOP.

2. 'q mount':
tsm: GWTSMq mount
Session established with server GWTSM: AIX-RS/6000
  Server Version 5, Release 1, Level 7.0
  Server date/time: 2003-06-24 07:51:14  Last access: 2003-06-23 16:05:56

ANR8329I 3590 volume 000374 is mounted R/W in drive D11 (/dev/rmt5), status:
IDLE.
ANR8329I 3590 volume 000514 is mounted R/W in drive D20 (/dev/rmt0), status:
IDLE.
ANR8329I 3590 volume 000101 is mounted R/W in drive D21 (/dev/rmt1), status:
IDLE.
ANR8329I 3590 volume 000366 is mounted R/O in drive D01 (/dev/rmt2), status:
IDLE.
ANR8329I 3590 volume 004278 is mounted R/W in drive D00 (/dev/rmt8), status:
IDLE.
ANR8329I 3590 volume 000599 is mounted R/W in drive D31 (/dev/rmt3), status:
IDLE.
ANR8334I 6 matches found.

We have 8 overall drives in this library...

I don't know where the problem lies. Manual dismounting of all idle volumes
helps, but it's not a solution :(


--
Przemysaw Maciuszko
Agora SA


Re: help:recovery log mode

2003-06-24 Thread Richard Sims
Hi all,my logvol have total space only 300MB and my log mode is
rollforward,and my hard disk have no more sapce.About 1 month
later ,the space will be fulled,how can I solve this?

As per the Admin Guide manual, doing BAckup DB will clear your
Recovery Log, giving you space to continue processing.
Your plight indicates that your server is underconfigured: 300 MB is
rather tiny for a Recovery Log, by today's standards.  Disks are
cheap these days, so implementing more should not be a major hurdle.

  Richard Sims, BU


Loadformat volume order

2003-06-24 Thread Douglas Currell
Is the order of the volumes an important consideration
when performing a loadformat command. For example is
there a difference between:

dsmserv loadformat 1 /dev/rdsk/c1t4d0s 12
/dev/rdsk/c1t8d0s0 /dev/rdsk/c1t8d0s1
/dev/rdsk/c1t8d0s3 /dev/rdsk/c1t8d0s4
/dev/rdsk/c1t9d0s0 /dev/rdsk/c1t9d0s1
/dev/rdsk/c1t9d0s3 /dev/rdsk/c1t9d0s4
/dev/rdsk/c1t10d0s0 /dev/rdsk/c1t10d0s1
/dev/rdsk/c1t10d0s3 /dev/rdsk/c1t10d0s4


and


dsmserv loadformat 1 /dev/rdsk/c1t4d0s 12
/dev/rdsk/c1t8d0s0 /dev/rdsk/c1t9d0s0
/dev/rdsk/c1t10d0s0 /dev/rdsk/c1t8d0s1
/dev/rdsk/c1t9d0s1  /dev/rdsk/c1t10d0s1
/dev/rdsk/c1t8d0s3 /dev/rdsk/c1t9d0s3
/dev/rdsk/c1t10d0s3 /dev/rdsk/c1t8d0s4
/dev/rdsk/c1t9d0s4 /dev/rdsk/c1t10d0s4


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Re: looking for a doc which tracks messages format changes for actlog

2003-06-24 Thread Richard Sims
anyone knows a documentation where we can find the changes about the
messages in the actlog ?
ie with 5.1.7.0 the ANE4987E message changed.
The space between folder and file name has been removed.

David - The front matter of the manuals carry a Summary Of Changes, and the
Technical Guide redbook for the new version describes new features.
And the README file in the download directory has the latest changes.

But small tweaks in the product, such as message changes, rarely are
announced: they would be reflected in APARs talking of doc changes, at best.
We discover minor changes as we use the new software level.

  Richard Sims, BU


Re: Loadformat volume order

2003-06-24 Thread Anderson F. Nobre
Nope!

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From: Douglas Currell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 9:10 AM
Subject: Loadformat volume order


 Is the order of the volumes an important consideration
 when performing a loadformat command. For example is
 there a difference between:

 dsmserv loadformat 1 /dev/rdsk/c1t4d0s 12
 /dev/rdsk/c1t8d0s0 /dev/rdsk/c1t8d0s1
 /dev/rdsk/c1t8d0s3 /dev/rdsk/c1t8d0s4
 /dev/rdsk/c1t9d0s0 /dev/rdsk/c1t9d0s1
 /dev/rdsk/c1t9d0s3 /dev/rdsk/c1t9d0s4
 /dev/rdsk/c1t10d0s0 /dev/rdsk/c1t10d0s1
 /dev/rdsk/c1t10d0s3 /dev/rdsk/c1t10d0s4


 and


 dsmserv loadformat 1 /dev/rdsk/c1t4d0s 12
 /dev/rdsk/c1t8d0s0 /dev/rdsk/c1t9d0s0
 /dev/rdsk/c1t10d0s0 /dev/rdsk/c1t8d0s1
 /dev/rdsk/c1t9d0s1  /dev/rdsk/c1t10d0s1
 /dev/rdsk/c1t8d0s3 /dev/rdsk/c1t9d0s3
 /dev/rdsk/c1t10d0s3 /dev/rdsk/c1t8d0s4
 /dev/rdsk/c1t9d0s4 /dev/rdsk/c1t10d0s4


 Thank you...

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Re: Interesting LTO fault's symptom

2003-06-24 Thread Thach, Kevin
Same situation here.  We have a 3584 with 12 drives that have been in use
for about a year.  We pump about a Terabyte of data through them everyday,
and our cleaning tape has been used twice in the past year.  We have had
numerous tapes get stuck in drives, and had to have IBM come out and take
the drives apart to get the tapes out, but we have not had a read or write
error on a single tape as of yet.

I've spoken to our IBM engineer about the cleaning frequency and she was
surprised also.  Next time I talk to her I might ask her to research it a
little more for me.

I also noticed there is a CLEANFREQUENCY parameter that can be set at the
drive level within TSM.  All of our drives are set to NONE.  I wonder if
setting this to ASNEEDED would cause them to be cleaned more frequently.

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From: David Longo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 8:59 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Interesting LTO fault's symptom


Interesting.  I have had an IBM 3584 library with
(8) LTO1 drives, FC attached for over a year with
no problem.  Cleaning tape was installed initially
and autoclean turned on on the library.  Tape has not
been used yet!.  I backup nearly 700GB of data
a day and make offsite copies.  Don't do a lot
of restores. I started with 100 tapes in system
and now have 220.

I remember a thread some months ago - maybe a year
about cleaning.  Everybody then commented that 
their cleaning tapes weren't getting used either.

Anybody know what should be a reasonable use
of the cleaning tape?


David B. Longo
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/23/03 20:14 PM 
Greeting TSMers,

I have read this thread with great interest as we seem to have similar
symptoms on the same kind of equipement.  IBM are confounded at present but
are starting to come to the same conclusion as me that the autoclean
symptom on the library is not functioning as it should.  We originally put
this down to TSM having control of the cleaning tapes but have now resolved
this and cleaning is still not happening.  We use our drives (3 of them)
18-20 hours a day and the last cleaning was a manual one we did 3 months
ago!   The IBM engineer said he surprised it still works at all.  We have
thrown out 5 tapes (from a library of 110) over the last 15 months which we
now believe may not have been faulty at all, just victims of a dirty drive!
There is another thread related to the same errors (1117 etc) listed in this
list back in February which leads me to the same conclusions.  If IBM come
up with a solution I will post it here.

 David Fosdike
 Senior Technical Specialist
 Elders Limited
 08 8425 4565
 0417 714 467
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From: Tom Hrouda Ing. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, 16 June 2003 9:44 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Interesting LTO fault's symptom


Hi all,

during last weeks I did interesting findings at one of production LTO 
3583-L18 library. There are 2 drives and both was changed past series 
of media faults (one of them twice) past about 1 year of
operation. We have
about 20 historicaly touched tapes with average 3-4 write 
faults. Media
faults are still repeated and my finding is all that faults 
were done at
70-75% of estimated capacity (set by longterm using to 105GB, 
we use client
compression) during filling the tape. It seems like all tapes 
were corrupted
nearly at the same place, of course there is some diffusion 
because this is
only estimated filling. Faults at these tapes are repeatedly occured at
these percents of max capacity.

I understand when one tape has media fault repeatedly at the
same place, but
about 20 tapes? Could it mean that all tapes were corrupted by 
one bad drive
at the same place, or can be reason at microcode?

We are in contact with our IBM support to solve it, but I am
interested if
anybody of you register similar phenomenon?

Tomas


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TSM Rentension period - data does not expired

2003-06-24 Thread Hafizan
I'm a little bit confuse between database in AIX client and database in TSM in term of 
data expiry. I have done a necessary setting at management class in TSM web but the 
data does not expired when the time come. Please advise


Re: Interesting LTO fault's symptom

2003-06-24 Thread Richard Sims
Interesting.  I have had an IBM 3584 library with (8) LTO1 drives, FC attached
for over a year with no problem.  Cleaning tape was installed initially and
autoclean turned on on the library.  Tape has not been used yet!.  I backup
nearly 700GB of data a day and make offsite copies.  Don't do a lot of
restores. I started with 100 tapes in system and now have 220.

I remember a thread some months ago - maybe a year about cleaning.  Everybody
then commented that their cleaning tapes weren't getting used either.

Let's pursue some details to try to pin this down...

 - The cleaning tape is an LTO type, with a volser prefix of CLNI or CLNU?
   (Otherwise the library thinks of it as a data cartridge.)
 - It was inserted using the procedure as documented in the 3584 manual?
 - It resides in a normal data cell (not the Diagnostic Tape cell)?
 - You have verified that Auto Clean is (still) activated?

If all of the above checks out, I would try following the manual's procedures
for removing a cleaning cartridge, and then reintroduce it, watching
particularly for a Moving cleaning cartridge message followed by
Insertion of Cleaning Cartridges has completed.  Then re-check Auto Clean
being active.

Manually perform a Clean Drive operation to assure that the library understands
the cleaning cartridge and that the function occurs.

If still nadda, have your CE upgrade the library microcode, as appropriate;
and the drives microcode, as they may be failing to signal that they need
cleaning.

  Richard Sims, BU


Re: Interesting LTO fault's symptom

2003-06-24 Thread Henrik Wahlstedt
If TSM handles cleaning,it would be great to have CLEANFREQuency=ASNEEDED
or a value. None wont help you much in that case. Use None if your library
handles cleaning..

//Henrik




   

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Same situation here.  We have a 3584 with 12 drives that have been in use
for about a year.  We pump about a Terabyte of data through them everyday,
and our cleaning tape has been used twice in the past year.  We have had
numerous tapes get stuck in drives, and had to have IBM come out and take
the drives apart to get the tapes out, but we have not had a read or write
error on a single tape as of yet.

I've spoken to our IBM engineer about the cleaning frequency and she was
surprised also.  Next time I talk to her I might ask her to research it a
little more for me.

I also noticed there is a CLEANFREQUENCY parameter that can be set at the
drive level within TSM.  All of our drives are set to NONE.  I wonder if
setting this to ASNEEDED would cause them to be cleaned more frequently.

-Original Message-
From: David Longo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 8:59 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Interesting LTO fault's symptom


Interesting.  I have had an IBM 3584 library with
(8) LTO1 drives, FC attached for over a year with
no problem.  Cleaning tape was installed initially
and autoclean turned on on the library.  Tape has not
been used yet!.  I backup nearly 700GB of data
a day and make offsite copies.  Don't do a lot
of restores. I started with 100 tapes in system
and now have 220.

I remember a thread some months ago - maybe a year
about cleaning.  Everybody then commented that
their cleaning tapes weren't getting used either.

Anybody know what should be a reasonable use
of the cleaning tape?


David B. Longo
System Administrator
Health First, Inc.
3300 Fiske Blvd.
Rockledge, FL 32955-4305
PH  321.434.5536
Pager  321.634.8230
Fax:321.434.5509
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/23/03 20:14 PM 
Greeting TSMers,

I have read this thread with great interest as we seem to have similar
symptoms on the same kind of equipement.  IBM are confounded at present but
are starting to come to the same conclusion as me that the autoclean
symptom on the library is not functioning as it should.  We originally put
this down to TSM having control of the cleaning tapes but have now resolved
this and cleaning is still not happening.  We use our drives (3 of them)
18-20 hours a day and the last cleaning was a manual one we did 3 months
ago!   The IBM engineer said he surprised it still works at all.  We have
thrown out 5 tapes (from a library of 110) over the last 15 months which we
now believe may not 

Re: Interesting LTO fault's symptom

2003-06-24 Thread Leonard Lauria
According to a memo I received from IBM, the LTO 
drives do NOT require periodic cleaning. 

The only time ours got cleaned is when we noticed
that auto cleaning was not occuring, and before we
got the memo.

Now, we have had a few tapes stuck in drives for
various reasons, and many unexplained I/O errors,
though I am begining to suspect SAN backups as the
root cause and not the LTO drives.

leonard


-Original Message-
From: Thach, Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 08:35:39 -0400
Subject: Re: Interesting LTO fault's symptom

Same situation here.  We have a 3584 with 12 drives that have been in use
for about a year.  We pump about a Terabyte of data through them everyday,
and our cleaning tape has been used twice in the past year.  We have had
numerous tapes get stuck in drives, and had to have IBM come out and take
the drives apart to get the tapes out, but we have not had a read or write
error on a single tape as of yet.

I've spoken to our IBM engineer about the cleaning frequency and she was
surprised also.  Next time I talk to her I might ask her to research it a
little more for me.

I also noticed there is a CLEANFREQUENCY parameter that can be set at the
drive level within TSM.  All of our drives are set to NONE.  I wonder if
setting this to ASNEEDED would cause them to be cleaned more frequently.

-Original Message-
From: David Longo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 8:59 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Interesting LTO fault's symptom


Interesting.  I have had an IBM 3584 library with
(8) LTO1 drives, FC attached for over a year with
no problem.  Cleaning tape was installed initially
and autoclean turned on on the library.  Tape has not
been used yet!.  I backup nearly 700GB of data
a day and make offsite copies.  Don't do a lot
of restores. I started with 100 tapes in system
and now have 220.

I remember a thread some months ago - maybe a year
about cleaning.  Everybody then commented that 
their cleaning tapes weren't getting used either.

Anybody know what should be a reasonable use
of the cleaning tape?


David B. Longo
System Administrator
Health First, Inc.
3300 Fiske Blvd.
Rockledge, FL 32955-4305
PH  321.434.5536
Pager  321.634.8230
Fax:321.434.5509
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/23/03 20:14 PM 
Greeting TSMers,

I have read this thread with great interest as we seem to have similar
symptoms on the same kind of equipement.  IBM are confounded at present but
are starting to come to the same conclusion as me that the autoclean
symptom on the library is not functioning as it should.  We originally put
this down to TSM having control of the cleaning tapes but have now resolved
this and cleaning is still not happening.  We use our drives (3 of them)
18-20 hours a day and the last cleaning was a manual one we did 3 months
ago!   The IBM engineer said he surprised it still works at all.  We have
thrown out 5 tapes (from a library of 110) over the last 15 months which we
now believe may not have been faulty at all, just victims of a dirty drive!
There is another thread related to the same errors (1117 etc) listed in this
list back in February which leads me to the same conclusions.  If IBM come
up with a solution I will post it here.

 David Fosdike
 Senior Technical Specialist
 Elders Limited
 08 8425 4565
 0417 714 467
 '...despise not the day of small things...'
 


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From: Tom Hrouda Ing. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, 16 June 2003 9:44 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Interesting LTO fault's symptom


Hi all,

during last weeks I did interesting findings at one of production LTO 
3583-L18 library. There are 2 drives and both was changed past series 
of media faults (one of them twice) past about 1 year of
operation. We have
about 20 historicaly touched tapes with average 3-4 write 
faults. Media
faults are still repeated and my finding is all that faults 
were done at
70-75% of estimated capacity (set by longterm using to 105GB, 
we use client
compression) during filling the tape. It seems like all tapes 
were corrupted
nearly at the same place, of course there is some diffusion 
because this is
only estimated filling. Faults at these tapes are repeatedly occured at
these percents of max capacity.

I understand when one tape has media fault repeatedly at the
same place, but
about 20 tapes? Could it mean that all tapes were corrupted by 
one bad drive
at the same place, or can be reason at microcode?

We are in contact with our IBM support to solve it, but I am
interested if
anybody of you register similar phenomenon?

Tomas


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Verify lan-free transfer???

2003-06-24 Thread Joni Moyer
Hello everyone!

I am still having issues with the lan-free verification.  I cannot tell if
the data went lan-free or if it just went directly to tape due to the
management class that was specified.  Below I have included the activity
log and output from the storage agent.   It seems that the storage agent
then starts a session and mounts a tape to the LTO2_Drive-1 (2st), but I
still am not sure how to tell if it went lanfree.  Shouldn't lanfree data
bytes have the approximate size of the file?  In our output it is 0B.
Thank you for any suggestions you may have!

06/20/03 08:57:56 ANR0406I Session 4406 started for node PGSU017 (SUN

   SOLARIS) (Tcp/Ip 157.154.43.36(44700)).

06/20/03 08:57:58 ANR0406I Session 4407 started for node PGSU017 (SUN

   SOLARIS) (Tcp/Ip 157.154.43.36(44702)).

06/20/03 08:57:58 ANR0406I (Session: 4297, Origin: STORAGENT)  Session
10
   started for node PGSU017 (SUN SOLARIS) (Tcp/Ip

   127.0.0.1(44703)).

06/20/03 08:58:02 ANR0408I Session 4408 started for server STORAGENT

   (Solaris 2.6/7/8 ) (Tcp/Ip) for library sharing.

06/20/03 08:58:02 ANR8336I Verifying label of LTO volume 331ABJ in
drive
   LTO2_DRIVE-1 (/dev/rmt/3st).

06/20/03 08:58:02 ANR8468I (Session: 4297, Origin: STORAGENT)  LTO
volume
   331ABJ dismounted from drive LTO2_DRIVE-1
(/dev/rmt/2st)
   in library 3584_LTO2.

06/20/03 08:58:02 ANR0409I Session 4408 ended for server STORAGENT
(Solaris
   2.6/7/8 ).

06/20/03 08:58:03 ANR0408I Session 4409 started for server STORAGENT

   (Solaris 2.6/7/8 ) (Tcp/Ip) for library sharing.

06/20/03 08:58:03 ANR8337I (Session: 4297, Origin: STORAGENT)  LTO
volume
   331ABJ mounted in drive LTO2_DRIVE-1 (/dev/rmt/2st).

06/20/03 08:58:03 ANR0409I Session 4409 ended for server STORAGENT
(Solaris
   2.6/7/8 ).

06/20/03 08:58:37 ANR0408I Session 4410 started for server STORAGENT

   (Solaris 2.6/7/8 ) (Tcp/Ip) for library sharing.

06/20/03 08:58:37 ANR0409I Session 4410 ended for server STORAGENT
(Solaris
   2.6/7/8 ).

06/20/03 08:59:28 ANR0403I Session 4407 ended for node PGSU017 (SUN

   SOLARIS).

06/20/03 08:59:29 ANR0403I (Session: 4297, Origin: STORAGENT)  Session
10
   ended for node PGSU017 (SUN SOLARIS).

06/20/03 08:59:30 ANE4952I (Session: 4406, Node: PGSU017)  Total number
of
   objects inspected:  286

06/20/03 08:59:30 ANE4953I (Session: 4406, Node: PGSU017)  Total number
of
   objects archived:   284

06/20/03 08:59:30 ANE4958I (Session: 4406, Node: PGSU017)  Total number
of
   objects updated:  0

06/20/03 08:59:30 ANE4960I (Session: 4406, Node: PGSU017)  Total number
of
   objects rebound:  0

06/20/03 08:59:30 ANE4957I (Session: 4406, Node: PGSU017)  Total number
of
   objects deleted:  0

06/20/03 08:59:30 ANE4970I (Session: 4406, Node: PGSU017)  Total number
of
   objects expired:  0

06/20/03 08:59:30 ANE4959I (Session: 4406, Node: PGSU017)  Total number
of
   objects failed:   0

06/20/03 08:59:30 ANE4961I (Session: 4406, Node: PGSU017)  Total number
of
   bytes transferred: 774.74 MB

06/20/03 08:59:30 ANE4971I (Session: 4406, Node: PGSU017)  LanFree data

   bytes:   0  B

06/20/03 08:59:30 ANE4963I (Session: 4406, Node: PGSU017)  Data
transfer
   time:   40.23 sec

06/20/03 08:59:30 ANE4966I (Session: 4406, Node: PGSU017)  Network data

   transfer rate:19,716.33 KB/sec

06/20/03 08:59:30 ANE4967I (Session: 4406, Node: PGSU017)  Aggregate
data
   transfer rate:  8,450.74 KB/sec

06/20/03 08:59:30 ANE4968I (Session: 4406, Node: PGSU017)  Objects

   compressed by:0%

06/20/03 08:59:30 ANE4964I (Session: 4406, Node: PGSU017)  Elapsed

   processing time:00:01:33

06/20/03 08:59:31 ANR0403I Session 4406 ended for node PGSU017 (SUN

   SOLARIS).

06/20/03 09:00:29 ANR8325I (Session: 4297, Origin: STORAGENT)
Dismounting
   volume 331ABJ - 1 minute mount retention expired.

06/20/03 09:00:34 ANR8336I (Session: 4297, Origin: STORAGENT)
Verifying
   label of LTO volume 331ABJ in drive LTO2_DRIVE-1

   (/dev/rmt/2st).

06/20/03 09:00:57 ANR0408I Session 4411 started for server STORAGENT

   (Solaris 2.6/7/8 ) (Tcp/Ip) 

Re: Interesting LTO fault's symptom

2003-06-24 Thread Richard Sims
According to a memo I received from IBM, the LTO
drives do NOT require periodic cleaning.

I would imagine, then, that the memo goes on to describe the
library cleaning tapes as decorative accessories?  ;-)

  Richard Sims, BU


Re: 5.1.6.0 client problems

2003-06-24 Thread Stephen E. Bacher
Thomas Denier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

We have been having problems with a Solaris client since we 'upgraded' its
client code from 4.1.2.0 to 5.1.6.0. The 'query node' command reports the
Solaris level as 5.8. The server is at 5.1.6.2 and runs under OS/390.

The client error log is showing sequences of messages like the following:

06/18/03   03:10:38 Return code 196 unknown
06/18/03   03:10:38 Unknown system error
Please check the TSM Error Log for any additional information

We encountered the same error when we installed the 5.1.6 Sun client.
I reported it to Tivoli/IBM support, and someone who reads this list
has found a workaround:

Add exclude.fs /etc/mnttab to your inclexcl file.

Apparently the new client can't deal with /etc/mnttab on Solaris.

Steve Bacher
Draper Laboratory
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: Verify lan-free transfer???

2003-06-24 Thread Andrew Raibeck
Hi Joni,

Apparently my email never made it to you. Here is what I sent you last
week (hopefully this will show up on ADSM-L):


There was a problem with the LAN-free ending statistics that is fixed in
5.1.6.0. I just checked, and the APAR number is IC35148. Try installing
the 5.1.6 client and that should resolve the statistics issue.


If the client is already at 5.1.6.0, then I would recommend opening a PMR
with support, as this would be a new problem. But it should be fixed.

Best regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
Good enough is the enemy of excellence.




Joni Moyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject:Verify lan-free transfer???



Hello everyone!

I am still having issues with the lan-free verification.  I cannot tell if
the data went lan-free or if it just went directly to tape due to the
management class that was specified.  Below I have included the activity
log and output from the storage agent.   It seems that the storage agent
then starts a session and mounts a tape to the LTO2_Drive-1 (2st), but I
still am not sure how to tell if it went lanfree.  Shouldn't lanfree data
bytes have the approximate size of the file?  In our output it is 0B.
Thank you for any suggestions you may have!

06/20/03 08:57:56 ANR0406I Session 4406 started for node PGSU017 (SUN

   SOLARIS) (Tcp/Ip 157.154.43.36(44700)).

06/20/03 08:57:58 ANR0406I Session 4407 started for node PGSU017 (SUN

   SOLARIS) (Tcp/Ip 157.154.43.36(44702)).

06/20/03 08:57:58 ANR0406I (Session: 4297, Origin: STORAGENT)  Session
10
   started for node PGSU017 (SUN SOLARIS) (Tcp/Ip

   127.0.0.1(44703)).

06/20/03 08:58:02 ANR0408I Session 4408 started for server STORAGENT

   (Solaris 2.6/7/8 ) (Tcp/Ip) for library sharing.

06/20/03 08:58:02 ANR8336I Verifying label of LTO volume 331ABJ in
drive
   LTO2_DRIVE-1 (/dev/rmt/3st).

06/20/03 08:58:02 ANR8468I (Session: 4297, Origin: STORAGENT)  LTO
volume
   331ABJ dismounted from drive LTO2_DRIVE-1
(/dev/rmt/2st)
   in library 3584_LTO2.

06/20/03 08:58:02 ANR0409I Session 4408 ended for server STORAGENT
(Solaris
   2.6/7/8 ).

06/20/03 08:58:03 ANR0408I Session 4409 started for server STORAGENT

   (Solaris 2.6/7/8 ) (Tcp/Ip) for library sharing.

06/20/03 08:58:03 ANR8337I (Session: 4297, Origin: STORAGENT)  LTO
volume
   331ABJ mounted in drive LTO2_DRIVE-1
(/dev/rmt/2st).

06/20/03 08:58:03 ANR0409I Session 4409 ended for server STORAGENT
(Solaris
   2.6/7/8 ).

06/20/03 08:58:37 ANR0408I Session 4410 started for server STORAGENT

   (Solaris 2.6/7/8 ) (Tcp/Ip) for library sharing.

06/20/03 08:58:37 ANR0409I Session 4410 ended for server STORAGENT
(Solaris
   2.6/7/8 ).

06/20/03 08:59:28 ANR0403I Session 4407 ended for node PGSU017 (SUN

   SOLARIS).

06/20/03 08:59:29 ANR0403I (Session: 4297, Origin: STORAGENT)  Session
10
   ended for node PGSU017 (SUN SOLARIS).

06/20/03 08:59:30 ANE4952I (Session: 4406, Node: PGSU017)  Total
number
of
   objects inspected:  286

06/20/03 08:59:30 ANE4953I (Session: 4406, Node: PGSU017)  Total
number
of
   objects archived:   284

06/20/03 08:59:30 ANE4958I (Session: 4406, Node: PGSU017)  Total
number
of
   objects updated:  0

06/20/03 08:59:30 ANE4960I (Session: 4406, Node: PGSU017)  Total
number
of
   objects rebound:  0

06/20/03 08:59:30 ANE4957I (Session: 4406, Node: PGSU017)  Total
number
of
   objects deleted:  0

06/20/03 08:59:30 ANE4970I (Session: 4406, Node: PGSU017)  Total
number
of
   objects expired:  0

06/20/03 08:59:30 ANE4959I (Session: 4406, Node: PGSU017)  Total
number
of
   objects failed:   0

06/20/03 08:59:30 ANE4961I (Session: 4406, Node: PGSU017)  Total
number
of
   bytes transferred: 774.74 MB

06/20/03 08:59:30 ANE4971I (Session: 4406, Node: PGSU017)  LanFree
data

   bytes:   0  B

06/20/03 08:59:30 ANE4963I (Session: 4406, Node: PGSU017)  Data
transfer
   time:  

Re: Server Down - Urgent Request

2003-06-24 Thread Richard Sims
Issue:  We unfortunately lost two disks on a RAID 5 array that contained
the database, recovery log, and primary diskpools.  Compounding the
problem the volhist.bak and devconfig.bak files were stored on the same
disk array (we had a nightly script in place to copy to an AFS location
but it had been disabled due to maintenance previously).  So, my
question is, how can I determine which tape volume my database backup
from yesterday is on?  Is there a way using the interface on the 3494?
Any other thoughts or suggestions?  I'm currently configuring the
storage array for use and will need to execute a restore db command
fairly soon.  Many thanks in advance - I never thought I could have two
simultaneous disk failures in a RAID 5 array as well as our DR script
disabled at the same time...

A classic DR procedures failure.
Without the files which definitively record volume usage, you will have
to grope in the dark.  (More on that below.)
In that two disks failed, might this actually be not a disk failure but
something simpler like a power supply issue which, if itself resolved,
could restore access to intact drives?  Check into just what really is
broken there.

As for working in the dark...  If you know the approximate time period of
when your dbbackup was taken, you can narrow it down to a few tape volumes
and then try each in a db restore: only one tape in a given time period
can be a dbbackup, and the others ordinary data, which db restore should
spit out.
Go to your 3494 operator panel.  Activate Service Mode.  In the Utilities
menu, choose View Logs.  Go into the candidate TRN (transactions) log.
Look for MOUNT_COMPLETE, DEMOUNT_COMPLETE entries in your time period.
The volser is in angle brackets, like 001646001646, wherein the volser
is 001646.

  Richard Sims, BU


TSM with Netapp Volumes.

2003-06-24 Thread PINNI, BALANAND (SBCSI)
Goodmorning everyone,

Can anyone please let me know if they are using Netapp for DB volumes i.e.
Filer.

Is there any web documentation on Netapp . I can't get any quick reference
on netapp.com???
I am trying to search WAFL (Write anywhere file Layout ) utility explanation
on measure_layout...

Thanks
Balanand Pinni


Re: 5.1.6.0 client problems

2003-06-24 Thread Andrew Raibeck
There is an APAR for this, IC36511.

Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
Good enough is the enemy of excellence.




Stephen E. Bacher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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cc:
Subject:Re: 5.1.6.0 client problems



Thomas Denier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

We have been having problems with a Solaris client since we 'upgraded'
its
client code from 4.1.2.0 to 5.1.6.0. The 'query node' command reports the
Solaris level as 5.8. The server is at 5.1.6.2 and runs under OS/390.

The client error log is showing sequences of messages like the following:

06/18/03   03:10:38 Return code 196 unknown
06/18/03   03:10:38 Unknown system error
Please check the TSM Error Log for any additional information

We encountered the same error when we installed the 5.1.6 Sun client.
I reported it to Tivoli/IBM support, and someone who reads this list
has found a workaround:

Add exclude.fs /etc/mnttab to your inclexcl file.

Apparently the new client can't deal with /etc/mnttab on Solaris.

Steve Bacher
Draper Laboratory
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

---


Re: AW: TSM on AIX and 3494 library problem...

2003-06-24 Thread Remco Post
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 12:49:49 +0200
Przemys³aw Maciuszko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
  how is the mount retention parameter of the dev-class set?
 
 I think standard (60 minutes)
 

60 minutes??? I hope you have only one storagepool in that library, on our
3494 we use 2 minutes mount retention, could not live with much more.


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Re: looking for a doc which tracks messages format changes for actlog

2003-06-24 Thread Christian Bagard
Hello David,

Formally, it seems there is no 'change' of messages between versions 
A message may be new or no more available (or not documented, explicitly in a chapter 
of MCodes, or not explicity)
but not modified.

But yes, there are 'spaces-blanks variations' around variables (filenames, nodenames, 
adminnames, drivenames ...) inside messages :
between versions, between languages, between operating systems ???
I don't know where or why, but I saw that several times. 
Maybe Andy will be more accurate about these variations. But maybe there is no 
explanation-solution.

If you read actlog by program, I think you have to deal with these variations in your 
code. That's we (try to) do.

Best regards

Christian Bagard
email : [EMAIL PROTECTED]

SOS-Restore - 32 cours Mirabeau - 13100 Aix-en-Provence - France

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From: David Rigaudiere [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: looking for a doc which tracks messages format changes for actlog


Hi *SMers,
anyone knows a documentation where we can find the changes about the
messages in the actlog ?
ie with 5.1.7.0 the ANE4987E message changed.
The space between folder and file name has been removed.

maybee a CHANGE file ?

Best regards

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Re: Interesting LTO fault's symptom

2003-06-24 Thread Tom Kauffman
Richard --

I seem to recall that one of the advantages of LTO was that the tapes
themselves were self-cleaning to an extent.

I have 4 cleaning tapes in the library; we've manually used one of them 11
times (more for checking out drive problems early on than for drive
cleaning). I've seen ONE tape in ONE drive throw a series of errors that
decoded as 'drive cleaning required'. By the time the tape dismounted, the
drive no longer needed cleaning. The same tape has worked fine in other
drives for the past three months and the drive hasn't thrown any errors
since.

I'm thinking that these drives work in a manner similar to the DLT drives I
used to have. If the signal strength from the heads degrades, the drive
needs cleaning -- but only if the signal is still low at label
check/dismount, because the normal tape movement may have cleaned things up.
And since the cleaning tapes are mildly abrasive, the idea is to not use
them if they aren't required.

I've decided to not worry about cleaning tape usage until I start seeing
tape I/O errors in my logs.

Tom Kauffman
NIBCO Inc.

-Original Message-
From: Richard Sims [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 7:49 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Interesting LTO fault's symptom


Interesting.  I have had an IBM 3584 library with (8) LTO1 drives, FC
attached
for over a year with no problem.  Cleaning tape was installed initially and
autoclean turned on on the library.  Tape has not been used yet!.  I backup
nearly 700GB of data a day and make offsite copies.  Don't do a lot of
restores. I started with 100 tapes in system and now have 220.

I remember a thread some months ago - maybe a year about cleaning.
Everybody
then commented that their cleaning tapes weren't getting used either.

Let's pursue some details to try to pin this down...

 - The cleaning tape is an LTO type, with a volser prefix of CLNI or
CLNU?
   (Otherwise the library thinks of it as a data cartridge.)
 - It was inserted using the procedure as documented in the 3584 manual?
 - It resides in a normal data cell (not the Diagnostic Tape cell)?
 - You have verified that Auto Clean is (still) activated?

If all of the above checks out, I would try following the manual's
procedures
for removing a cleaning cartridge, and then reintroduce it, watching
particularly for a Moving cleaning cartridge message followed by
Insertion of Cleaning Cartridges has completed.  Then re-check Auto Clean
being active.

Manually perform a Clean Drive operation to assure that the library
understands
the cleaning cartridge and that the function occurs.

If still nadda, have your CE upgrade the library microcode, as appropriate;
and the drives microcode, as they may be failing to signal that they need
cleaning.

  Richard Sims, BU


Re: Interesting LTO fault's symptom

2003-06-24 Thread David Longo
Richard,

The tape is a genuine IBM Cleaning cartridge that came with the library.
Per the Storwatch Specialist:

VOLID is CLNI81L1 and is in element address 1025 (3584-L32 library).
Remaining Cleanings is 50.  (I think that's the number of cleanings on 
these cartridges ?)

Storwatch shows this as Cleaning Cartridge and that AutoClean is
enabled.

(I see another user this morning reported their tape has been used
twice in a year and he pumps more data than me.  That's the first
person that I can remember that has reported an actual automatic
use of an LTO cleaning cartridge.)  Maybe thses drives/tapes
are REAL clean already!



David B. Longo
System Administrator
Health First, Inc.
3300 Fiske Blvd.
Rockledge, FL 32955-4305
PH  321.434.5536
Pager  321.634.8230
Fax:321.434.5509
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/24/03 08:48AM 
Interesting.  I have had an IBM 3584 library with (8) LTO1 drives, FC attached
for over a year with no problem.  Cleaning tape was installed initially and
autoclean turned on on the library.  Tape has not been used yet!.  I backup
nearly 700GB of data a day and make offsite copies.  Don't do a lot of
restores. I started with 100 tapes in system and now have 220.

I remember a thread some months ago - maybe a year about cleaning.  Everybody
then commented that their cleaning tapes weren't getting used either.

Let's pursue some details to try to pin this down...

 - The cleaning tape is an LTO type, with a volser prefix of CLNI or CLNU?
   (Otherwise the library thinks of it as a data cartridge.)
 - It was inserted using the procedure as documented in the 3584 manual?
 - It resides in a normal data cell (not the Diagnostic Tape cell)?
 - You have verified that Auto Clean is (still) activated?

If all of the above checks out, I would try following the manual's procedures
for removing a cleaning cartridge, and then reintroduce it, watching
particularly for a Moving cleaning cartridge message followed by
Insertion of Cleaning Cartridges has completed.  Then re-check Auto Clean
being active.

Manually perform a Clean Drive operation to assure that the library understands
the cleaning cartridge and that the function occurs.

If still nadda, have your CE upgrade the library microcode, as appropriate;
and the drives microcode, as they may be failing to signal that they need
cleaning.

  Richard Sims, BU

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TSM 5.2

2003-06-24 Thread Bruce Lowrie
All,

If I am upgrading my servers and clients to 5.2 for the added functionality,
don't I need the license package that comes with the CD? The TIVsmSlic which
is the license Package and it changes every version, needs to be
reinstalled,  what it the purpose of having the software online?  We have
never found this package online. Can it run out of compliance until we
receive the CD? Has this changed in 5.2?


Bruce E. Lowrie
Sr. Systems Analyst
Information Technology Services
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Re: Interesting LTO fault's symptom

2003-06-24 Thread David Longo
I've had a few tapes stuck in drives.  The two problems that have
caused that here are drive/library microcode and physical tape
problem.  There have been about three tapes that had the leader
pin cocked and once in a drive, the drive couldn't eject it.

What I hear on this one is that IBM suspects the tapes are being
dropped.  I can't disagree on that, two of the tapes for sure were
being checked in as scratch by operators from tapes returned from
vault.  Third one might have been also.



 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/24/03 08:35AM 
Same situation here.  We have a 3584 with 12 drives that have been in use
for about a year.  We pump about a Terabyte of data through them everyday,
and our cleaning tape has been used twice in the past year.  We have had
numerous tapes get stuck in drives, and had to have IBM come out and take
the drives apart to get the tapes out, but we have not had a read or write
error on a single tape as of yet.

I've spoken to our IBM engineer about the cleaning frequency and she was
surprised also.  Next time I talk to her I might ask her to research it a
little more for me.

I also noticed there is a CLEANFREQUENCY parameter that can be set at the
drive level within TSM.  All of our drives are set to NONE.  I wonder if
setting this to ASNEEDED would cause them to be cleaned more frequently.

-Original Message-
From: David Longo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 8:59 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: Re: Interesting LTO fault's symptom


Interesting.  I have had an IBM 3584 library with
(8) LTO1 drives, FC attached for over a year with
no problem.  Cleaning tape was installed initially
and autoclean turned on on the library.  Tape has not
been used yet!.  I backup nearly 700GB of data
a day and make offsite copies.  Don't do a lot
of restores. I started with 100 tapes in system
and now have 220.

I remember a thread some months ago - maybe a year
about cleaning.  Everybody then commented that 
their cleaning tapes weren't getting used either.

Anybody know what should be a reasonable use
of the cleaning tape?


David B. Longo
System Administrator
Health First, Inc.
3300 Fiske Blvd.
Rockledge, FL 32955-4305
PH  321.434.5536
Pager  321.634.8230
Fax:321.434.5509
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/23/03 20:14 PM 
Greeting TSMers,

I have read this thread with great interest as we seem to have similar
symptoms on the same kind of equipement.  IBM are confounded at present but
are starting to come to the same conclusion as me that the autoclean
symptom on the library is not functioning as it should.  We originally put
this down to TSM having control of the cleaning tapes but have now resolved
this and cleaning is still not happening.  We use our drives (3 of them)
18-20 hours a day and the last cleaning was a manual one we did 3 months
ago!   The IBM engineer said he surprised it still works at all.  We have
thrown out 5 tapes (from a library of 110) over the last 15 months which we
now believe may not have been faulty at all, just victims of a dirty drive!
There is another thread related to the same errors (1117 etc) listed in this
list back in February which leads me to the same conclusions.  If IBM come
up with a solution I will post it here.

 David Fosdike
 Senior Technical Specialist
 Elders Limited
 08 8425 4565
 0417 714 467
 '...despise not the day of small things...'
 


-Original Message-
From: Tom Hrouda Ing. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, 16 June 2003 9:44 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: Interesting LTO fault's symptom


Hi all,

during last weeks I did interesting findings at one of production LTO 
3583-L18 library. There are 2 drives and both was changed past series 
of media faults (one of them twice) past about 1 year of
operation. We have
about 20 historicaly touched tapes with average 3-4 write 
faults. Media
faults are still repeated and my finding is all that faults 
were done at
70-75% of estimated capacity (set by longterm using to 105GB, 
we use client
compression) during filling the tape. It seems like all tapes 
were corrupted
nearly at the same place, of course there is some diffusion 
because this is
only estimated filling. Faults at these tapes are repeatedly occured at
these percents of max capacity.

I understand when one tape has media fault repeatedly at the
same place, but
about 20 tapes? Could it mean that all tapes were corrupted by 
one bad drive
at the same place, or can be reason at microcode?

We are in contact with our IBM support to solve it, but I am
interested if
anybody of you register similar phenomenon?

Tomas


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Re: Interesting LTO fault's symptom

2003-06-24 Thread David Longo
I've had a few tape stuck in drives here.  Problems have been
either drive/library microcode (now updated) or physical problem.
Three tapes have had leader pin cocked and once in drive, the drive
couldn't eject them.

IBM suspects tapes are being dropped.  I can't disagree with that,
2 of the 3 here were being checked in as scratch from vault, third one
might have also.  I have shown operators how to inspect tapes, but
can't expect them to catch something that happens only about every 
4-5 months.



David B. Longo
System Administrator
Health First, Inc.
3300 Fiske Blvd.
Rockledge, FL 32955-4305
PH  321.434.5536
Pager  321.634.8230
Fax:321.434.5509
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/24/03 08:35AM 
Same situation here.  We have a 3584 with 12 drives that have been in use
for about a year.  We pump about a Terabyte of data through them everyday,
and our cleaning tape has been used twice in the past year.  We have had
numerous tapes get stuck in drives, and had to have IBM come out and take
the drives apart to get the tapes out, but we have not had a read or write
error on a single tape as of yet.

I've spoken to our IBM engineer about the cleaning frequency and she was
surprised also.  Next time I talk to her I might ask her to research it a
little more for me.

I also noticed there is a CLEANFREQUENCY parameter that can be set at the
drive level within TSM.  All of our drives are set to NONE.  I wonder if
setting this to ASNEEDED would cause them to be cleaned more frequently.

-Original Message-
From: David Longo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 8:59 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: Re: Interesting LTO fault's symptom


Interesting.  I have had an IBM 3584 library with
(8) LTO1 drives, FC attached for over a year with
no problem.  Cleaning tape was installed initially
and autoclean turned on on the library.  Tape has not
been used yet!.  I backup nearly 700GB of data
a day and make offsite copies.  Don't do a lot
of restores. I started with 100 tapes in system
and now have 220.

I remember a thread some months ago - maybe a year
about cleaning.  Everybody then commented that 
their cleaning tapes weren't getting used either.

Anybody know what should be a reasonable use
of the cleaning tape?


David B. Longo
System Administrator
Health First, Inc.
3300 Fiske Blvd.
Rockledge, FL 32955-4305
PH  321.434.5536
Pager  321.634.8230
Fax:321.434.5509
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/23/03 20:14 PM 
Greeting TSMers,

I have read this thread with great interest as we seem to have similar
symptoms on the same kind of equipement.  IBM are confounded at present but
are starting to come to the same conclusion as me that the autoclean
symptom on the library is not functioning as it should.  We originally put
this down to TSM having control of the cleaning tapes but have now resolved
this and cleaning is still not happening.  We use our drives (3 of them)
18-20 hours a day and the last cleaning was a manual one we did 3 months
ago!   The IBM engineer said he surprised it still works at all.  We have
thrown out 5 tapes (from a library of 110) over the last 15 months which we
now believe may not have been faulty at all, just victims of a dirty drive!
There is another thread related to the same errors (1117 etc) listed in this
list back in February which leads me to the same conclusions.  If IBM come
up with a solution I will post it here.

 David Fosdike
 Senior Technical Specialist
 Elders Limited
 08 8425 4565
 0417 714 467
 '...despise not the day of small things...'
 


-Original Message-
From: Tom Hrouda Ing. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, 16 June 2003 9:44 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: Interesting LTO fault's symptom


Hi all,

during last weeks I did interesting findings at one of production LTO 
3583-L18 library. There are 2 drives and both was changed past series 
of media faults (one of them twice) past about 1 year of
operation. We have
about 20 historicaly touched tapes with average 3-4 write 
faults. Media
faults are still repeated and my finding is all that faults 
were done at
70-75% of estimated capacity (set by longterm using to 105GB, 
we use client
compression) during filling the tape. It seems like all tapes 
were corrupted
nearly at the same place, of course there is some diffusion 
because this is
only estimated filling. Faults at these tapes are repeatedly occured at
these percents of max capacity.

I understand when one tape has media fault repeatedly at the
same place, but
about 20 tapes? Could it mean that all tapes were corrupted by 
one bad drive
at the same place, or can be reason at microcode?

We are in contact with our IBM support to solve it, but I am
interested if
anybody of you register similar phenomenon?

Tomas


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Re: Interesting LTO fault's symptom

2003-06-24 Thread Leonard Lauria
yes it does...i can dig it up and send it to you if
you'd like.  :)

-Original Message-
From: Richard Sims [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 09:06:50 -0400
Subject: Re: Interesting LTO fault's symptom

According to a memo I received from IBM, the LTO
drives do NOT require periodic cleaning.

I would imagine, then, that the memo goes on to describe the
library cleaning tapes as decorative accessories?  ;-)

  Richard Sims, BU


Re: Verify lan-free transfer???

2003-06-24 Thread Mr. Lindsay Morris
Look in the accounting logs.
If it went LAN-free, there'll be a record for that session in the
dsmaccnt.log file on the CLIENT;
If it went over the LAN, there'll be a record for that session in the
dsmaccnt.log file on the SERVER.
These files usually live in /usr/tivoli/tsm/server/bin or something like
that.

You can use our viewacct program to turn the accounting log data into
something more readable.
http://www.servergraph.com/techtip3.htm

Hope this helps.
-
Mr. Lindsay Morris
Lead Architect
www.servergraph.com
512-482-6138 ext 105

 -Original Message-
 From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
 Joni Moyer
 Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 8:04 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Verify lan-free transfer???


 Hello everyone!

 I am still having issues with the lan-free verification.  I cannot tell if
 the data went lan-free or if it just went directly to tape due to the
 management class that was specified.  Below I have included the activity
 log and output from the storage agent.   It seems that the storage agent
 then starts a session and mounts a tape to the LTO2_Drive-1 (2st), but I
 still am not sure how to tell if it went lanfree.  Shouldn't lanfree data
 bytes have the approximate size of the file?  In our output it is 0B.
 Thank you for any suggestions you may have!

 06/20/03 08:57:56 ANR0406I Session 4406 started for node PGSU017 (SUN

SOLARIS) (Tcp/Ip 157.154.43.36(44700)).

 06/20/03 08:57:58 ANR0406I Session 4407 started for node PGSU017 (SUN

SOLARIS) (Tcp/Ip 157.154.43.36(44702)).

 06/20/03 08:57:58 ANR0406I (Session: 4297, Origin: STORAGENT)  Session
 10
started for node PGSU017 (SUN SOLARIS) (Tcp/Ip

127.0.0.1(44703)).

 06/20/03 08:58:02 ANR0408I Session 4408 started for server STORAGENT

(Solaris 2.6/7/8 ) (Tcp/Ip) for library sharing.

 06/20/03 08:58:02 ANR8336I Verifying label of LTO volume 331ABJ in
 drive
LTO2_DRIVE-1 (/dev/rmt/3st).

 06/20/03 08:58:02 ANR8468I (Session: 4297, Origin: STORAGENT)  LTO
 volume
331ABJ dismounted from drive LTO2_DRIVE-1
 (/dev/rmt/2st)
in library 3584_LTO2.

 06/20/03 08:58:02 ANR0409I Session 4408 ended for server STORAGENT
 (Solaris
2.6/7/8 ).

 06/20/03 08:58:03 ANR0408I Session 4409 started for server STORAGENT

(Solaris 2.6/7/8 ) (Tcp/Ip) for library sharing.

 06/20/03 08:58:03 ANR8337I (Session: 4297, Origin: STORAGENT)  LTO
 volume
331ABJ mounted in drive LTO2_DRIVE-1
 (/dev/rmt/2st).

 06/20/03 08:58:03 ANR0409I Session 4409 ended for server STORAGENT
 (Solaris
2.6/7/8 ).

 06/20/03 08:58:37 ANR0408I Session 4410 started for server STORAGENT

(Solaris 2.6/7/8 ) (Tcp/Ip) for library sharing.

 06/20/03 08:58:37 ANR0409I Session 4410 ended for server STORAGENT
 (Solaris
2.6/7/8 ).

 06/20/03 08:59:28 ANR0403I Session 4407 ended for node PGSU017 (SUN

SOLARIS).

 06/20/03 08:59:29 ANR0403I (Session: 4297, Origin: STORAGENT)  Session
 10
ended for node PGSU017 (SUN SOLARIS).

 06/20/03 08:59:30 ANE4952I (Session: 4406, Node: PGSU017)
 Total number
 of
objects inspected:  286

 06/20/03 08:59:30 ANE4953I (Session: 4406, Node: PGSU017)
 Total number
 of
objects archived:   284

 06/20/03 08:59:30 ANE4958I (Session: 4406, Node: PGSU017)
 Total number
 of
objects updated:  0

 06/20/03 08:59:30 ANE4960I (Session: 4406, Node: PGSU017)
 Total number
 of
objects rebound:  0

 06/20/03 08:59:30 ANE4957I (Session: 4406, Node: PGSU017)
 Total number
 of
objects deleted:  0

 06/20/03 08:59:30 ANE4970I (Session: 4406, Node: PGSU017)
 Total number
 of
objects expired:  0

 06/20/03 08:59:30 ANE4959I (Session: 4406, Node: PGSU017)
 Total number
 of
objects failed:   0

 06/20/03 08:59:30 ANE4961I (Session: 4406, Node: PGSU017)
 Total number
 of
bytes transferred: 774.74 MB

 06/20/03 08:59:30 ANE4971I (Session: 4406, Node: PGSU017)
 LanFree data

bytes:   0  B

 06/20/03 08:59:30 ANE4963I (Session: 4406, Node: PGSU017)  Data
 transfer
time:   40.23 sec

 06/20/03 08:59:30 ANE4966I (Session: 4406, Node: PGSU017)
 Network data

transfer rate:19,716.33 KB/sec

 06/20/03 08:59:30 ANE4967I (Session: 4406, Node: PGSU017)  Aggregate
 data
transfer rate:  

Re: Verify lan-free transfer???

2003-06-24 Thread Lambelet,Rene,VEVEY,GL-CSC
Hi Lindsay,

I appreciate your help in this forum. But this place should not be used to
sell any goods (servergraph for instance), it is a technical forum.

Regards,

René LAMBELET
NESTEC  SA
GLOBE - Global Business Excellence
Central Support Center
Information Technology
Av. Nestlé 55  CH-1800 Vevey (Switzerland) 
tél +41 (0)21 924 35 43   fax +41 (0)21 703 30 17   local
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-Original Message-
From: Mr. Lindsay Morris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday,24. June 2003 17:17
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Verify lan-free transfer???


Look in the accounting logs.
If it went LAN-free, there'll be a record for that session in the
dsmaccnt.log file on the CLIENT;
If it went over the LAN, there'll be a record for that session in the
dsmaccnt.log file on the SERVER.
These files usually live in /usr/tivoli/tsm/server/bin or something like
that.

You can use our viewacct program to turn the accounting log data into
something more readable.
http://www.servergraph.com/techtip3.htm

Hope this helps.
-
Mr. Lindsay Morris
Lead Architect
www.servergraph.com
512-482-6138 ext 105

 -Original Message-
 From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
 Joni Moyer
 Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 8:04 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Verify lan-free transfer???


 Hello everyone!

 I am still having issues with the lan-free verification.  I cannot tell if
 the data went lan-free or if it just went directly to tape due to the
 management class that was specified.  Below I have included the activity
 log and output from the storage agent.   It seems that the storage agent
 then starts a session and mounts a tape to the LTO2_Drive-1 (2st), but I
 still am not sure how to tell if it went lanfree.  Shouldn't lanfree data
 bytes have the approximate size of the file?  In our output it is 0B.
 Thank you for any suggestions you may have!

 06/20/03 08:57:56 ANR0406I Session 4406 started for node PGSU017 (SUN

SOLARIS) (Tcp/Ip 157.154.43.36(44700)).

 06/20/03 08:57:58 ANR0406I Session 4407 started for node PGSU017 (SUN

SOLARIS) (Tcp/Ip 157.154.43.36(44702)).

 06/20/03 08:57:58 ANR0406I (Session: 4297, Origin: STORAGENT)  Session
 10
started for node PGSU017 (SUN SOLARIS) (Tcp/Ip

127.0.0.1(44703)).

 06/20/03 08:58:02 ANR0408I Session 4408 started for server STORAGENT

(Solaris 2.6/7/8 ) (Tcp/Ip) for library sharing.

 06/20/03 08:58:02 ANR8336I Verifying label of LTO volume 331ABJ in
 drive
LTO2_DRIVE-1 (/dev/rmt/3st).

 06/20/03 08:58:02 ANR8468I (Session: 4297, Origin: STORAGENT)  LTO
 volume
331ABJ dismounted from drive LTO2_DRIVE-1
 (/dev/rmt/2st)
in library 3584_LTO2.

 06/20/03 08:58:02 ANR0409I Session 4408 ended for server STORAGENT
 (Solaris
2.6/7/8 ).

 06/20/03 08:58:03 ANR0408I Session 4409 started for server STORAGENT

(Solaris 2.6/7/8 ) (Tcp/Ip) for library sharing.

 06/20/03 08:58:03 ANR8337I (Session: 4297, Origin: STORAGENT)  LTO
 volume
331ABJ mounted in drive LTO2_DRIVE-1
 (/dev/rmt/2st).

 06/20/03 08:58:03 ANR0409I Session 4409 ended for server STORAGENT
 (Solaris
2.6/7/8 ).

 06/20/03 08:58:37 ANR0408I Session 4410 started for server STORAGENT

(Solaris 2.6/7/8 ) (Tcp/Ip) for library sharing.

 06/20/03 08:58:37 ANR0409I Session 4410 ended for server STORAGENT
 (Solaris
2.6/7/8 ).

 06/20/03 08:59:28 ANR0403I Session 4407 ended for node PGSU017 (SUN

SOLARIS).

 06/20/03 08:59:29 ANR0403I (Session: 4297, Origin: STORAGENT)  Session
 10
ended for node PGSU017 (SUN SOLARIS).

 06/20/03 08:59:30 ANE4952I (Session: 4406, Node: PGSU017)
 Total number
 of
objects inspected:  286

 06/20/03 08:59:30 ANE4953I (Session: 4406, Node: PGSU017)
 Total number
 of
objects archived:   284

 06/20/03 08:59:30 ANE4958I (Session: 4406, Node: PGSU017)
 Total number
 of
objects updated:  0

 06/20/03 08:59:30 ANE4960I (Session: 4406, Node: PGSU017)
 Total number
 of
objects rebound:  0

 06/20/03 08:59:30 ANE4957I (Session: 4406, Node: PGSU017)
 Total number
 of
objects deleted:  0

 06/20/03 08:59:30 ANE4970I (Session: 4406, Node: PGSU017)
 Total number
 of
objects expired:  0

 06/20/03 08:59:30 ANE4959I (Session: 4406, Node: PGSU017)
 Total number
 of
   

Re: Verify lan-free transfer???

2003-06-24 Thread Mr. Lindsay Morris
My advice about using accounting logs to verify lan-free or not has nothing
to do with Servergraph.  We're big fans of TSM - I hope that advice was
helpful to Joni.

The viewacct script is a free offering - it helps to see what's in the
activity log.
Yes, it's on our website - I'm too lazy to cut and paste it into each email.
Maybe I should put it on coderelief, or adsm.org somewhere.

-
Mr. Lindsay Morris
Lead Architect
www.servergraph.com
512-482-6138 ext 105

 -Original Message-
 From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
 Lambelet,Rene,VEVEY,GL-CSC
 Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 10:27 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Verify lan-free transfer???


 Hi Lindsay,

 I appreciate your help in this forum. But this place should not be used to
 sell any goods (servergraph for instance), it is a technical forum.

 Regards,

 Reni LAMBELET
 NESTEC  SA
 GLOBE - Global Business Excellence
 Central Support Center
 Information Technology
 Av. Nestli 55  CH-1800 Vevey (Switzerland)
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 -Original Message-
 From: Mr. Lindsay Morris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday,24. June 2003 17:17
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Verify lan-free transfer???


 Look in the accounting logs.
 If it went LAN-free, there'll be a record for that session in the
 dsmaccnt.log file on the CLIENT;
 If it went over the LAN, there'll be a record for that session in the
 dsmaccnt.log file on the SERVER.
 These files usually live in /usr/tivoli/tsm/server/bin or something like
 that.

 You can use our viewacct program to turn the accounting log data into
 something more readable.
 http://www.servergraph.com/techtip3.htm

 Hope this helps.
 -
 Mr. Lindsay Morris
 Lead Architect
 www.servergraph.com
 512-482-6138 ext 105

  -Original Message-
  From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
  Joni Moyer
  Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 8:04 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Verify lan-free transfer???
 
 
  Hello everyone!
 
  I am still having issues with the lan-free verification.  I
 cannot tell if
  the data went lan-free or if it just went directly to tape due to the
  management class that was specified.  Below I have included the activity
  log and output from the storage agent.   It seems that the storage agent
  then starts a session and mounts a tape to the LTO2_Drive-1 (2st), but I
  still am not sure how to tell if it went lanfree.  Shouldn't
 lanfree data
  bytes have the approximate size of the file?  In our output it is 0B.
  Thank you for any suggestions you may have!
 
  06/20/03 08:57:56 ANR0406I Session 4406 started for node
 PGSU017 (SUN
 
 SOLARIS) (Tcp/Ip 157.154.43.36(44700)).
 
  06/20/03 08:57:58 ANR0406I Session 4407 started for node
 PGSU017 (SUN
 
 SOLARIS) (Tcp/Ip 157.154.43.36(44702)).
 
  06/20/03 08:57:58 ANR0406I (Session: 4297, Origin:
 STORAGENT)  Session
  10
 started for node PGSU017 (SUN SOLARIS) (Tcp/Ip
 
 127.0.0.1(44703)).
 
  06/20/03 08:58:02 ANR0408I Session 4408 started for server STORAGENT
 
 (Solaris 2.6/7/8 ) (Tcp/Ip) for library sharing.
 
  06/20/03 08:58:02 ANR8336I Verifying label of LTO volume 331ABJ in
  drive
 LTO2_DRIVE-1 (/dev/rmt/3st).
 
  06/20/03 08:58:02 ANR8468I (Session: 4297, Origin: STORAGENT)  LTO
  volume
 331ABJ dismounted from drive LTO2_DRIVE-1
  (/dev/rmt/2st)
 in library 3584_LTO2.
 
  06/20/03 08:58:02 ANR0409I Session 4408 ended for server STORAGENT
  (Solaris
 2.6/7/8 ).
 
  06/20/03 08:58:03 ANR0408I Session 4409 started for server STORAGENT
 
 (Solaris 2.6/7/8 ) (Tcp/Ip) for library sharing.
 
  06/20/03 08:58:03 ANR8337I (Session: 4297, Origin: STORAGENT)  LTO
  volume
 331ABJ mounted in drive LTO2_DRIVE-1
  (/dev/rmt/2st).
 
  06/20/03 08:58:03 ANR0409I Session 4409 ended for server STORAGENT
  (Solaris
 2.6/7/8 ).
 
  06/20/03 08:58:37 ANR0408I Session 4410 started for server STORAGENT
 
 (Solaris 2.6/7/8 ) (Tcp/Ip) for library sharing.
 
  06/20/03 08:58:37 ANR0409I Session 4410 ended for server STORAGENT
  (Solaris
 2.6/7/8 ).
 
  06/20/03 08:59:28 ANR0403I Session 4407 ended for node PGSU017 (SUN
 
 SOLARIS).
 
  06/20/03 08:59:29 ANR0403I (Session: 4297, Origin:
 STORAGENT)  Session
  10
 ended for node PGSU017 (SUN SOLARIS).
 
  06/20/03 08:59:30 ANE4952I (Session: 4406, 

Re: Message ANS1102E Excessive number of command line arguments

2003-06-24 Thread Andrew Raibeck
Follow-up on an older issue:

In reviewing the TSM server documentation, I happened to note the
following in the online help, which suggests a solution:


tsm: STORMAN_SERVER1help
  1 - Using Syntax Diagrams
  ...
 11 - Using Continuation Characters
  ...
 20 - Commands Any Administrator Can Issue

tsm: STORMAN_SERVER1help 11
Using Continuation Characters
  

Using Continuation Characters

You can use continuation characters in the interactive mode of the
administrative client. Continuation characters are useful when you want to
process a command that is longer than your screen or window width.

Attention: Without continuation characters you can enter up to 256
characters. With continuation characters you can enter up to 1500
characters. In the MACRO command, these maximums are after any
substitution
variables have been applied.

With continuation characters, you can do the following:
  ...
   * Continue a string of values enclosed in quotation marks by entering
the
 first part of the string enclosed in quotation marks, followed by a
 dash or a back slash at the end of the line. Then, enter the
remainder
 of the string on the next line enclosed in the same type of quotation
 marks.

 For example:

 contact=david pease, bldg. 100, room 2b, san jose,-
 ext. 1234, alternate contact-norm pass,ext 2345

 Tivoli Storage Manager concatenates the two strings with no
intervening
 blanks. You must use only this method to continue a quoted string of
 values across more than one line.


This suggests the following solution:

   OBJECTS='G:\DATA\ACCESS\184 BACKUPS\* ' -
   'G:\DATA\ACCESS\57 BACKUPS\* ' -
   'G:\DATA\ACCESS\578 BACKUPS\* ' -
   'G:\DATA\ACCESS\1263 BACKUP\* ' -
   'G:\DATA\ACCESS\182MAN BACKUP\* ' -
   'G:\DATA\ACCESS\182SYSTEM BACKUP\* ' -
   'G:\DATA\ACCESS\CISPS SPT DATABASE BACKUP\* ' -
   'G:\DATA\ACCESS\CISUM SPT DATABASE BACKUP\*' -

Note that each file specification is enclosed in double quotes, then
single quotes. There is a blank space between the right-hand double quote
and single quote so that when the concatenation with the next line occurs,
there will be a blank space between each file specification, i.e. this:

   G:\DATA\ACCESS\184 BACKUPS\* G:\DATA\ACCESS\57 BACKUPS\*

instead of this:

   G:\DATA\ACCESS\184 BACKUPS\*G:\DATA\ACCESS\57 BACKUPS\*

Best regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
Good enough is the enemy of excellence.
- Forwarded by Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM on 06/24/2003 08:35 -


Andrew Raibeck
04/28/2003 07:03


To: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc:
From:   Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: Message ANS1102E Excessive number of command line arguments


Mmmm. I don't think the asterisk is the problem, as Windows
doesn't have the same expansion issue that Unix does.

I think the problem is in the syntax used for the OBJECTS parameter:

   OBJECTS='G:\DATA\ACCESS\184 BACKUPS\* ' -
   'G:\DATA\ACCESS\57 BACKUPS\* ' -
   'G:\DATA\ACCESS\578 BACKUPS\* ' -
   'G:\DATA\ACCESS\1263 BACKUP\* ' -
   'G:\DATA\ACCESS\182MAN BACKUP\* ' -
   'G:\DATA\ACCESS\182SYSTEM BACKUP\* ' -
   'G:\DATA\ACCESS\CISPS SPT DATABASE BACKUP\* ' -
   'G:\DATA\ACCESS\CISUM SPT DATABASE BACKUP\* ' -

Rather than enclosing each file specification in double and single quotes,
each file spec should be enclosed in a pair of double quotes, then the
entire set of file specs enclosed in a pair of single quotes, like this:

   OBJECTS='G:\DATA\ACCESS\184 BACKUPS\*  -
   G:\DATA\ACCESS\57 BACKUPS\*  -
   G:\DATA\ACCESS\578 BACKUPS\*  -
   G:\DATA\ACCESS\1263 BACKUP\*  -
   G:\DATA\ACCESS\182MAN BACKUP\*  -
   G:\DATA\ACCESS\182SYSTEM BACKUP\*  -
   G:\DATA\ACCESS\CISPS SPT DATABASE BACKUP\*  -
   G:\DATA\ACCESS\CISUM SPT DATABASE BACKUP\* ' -

The asterisk isn't really necessary, though, so this could be slightly
shortened to:

   OBJECTS='G:\DATA\ACCESS\184 BACKUPS\  -
   G:\DATA\ACCESS\57 BACKUPS\  -
   G:\DATA\ACCESS\578 BACKUPS\  -
   G:\DATA\ACCESS\1263 BACKUP\  -
   G:\DATA\ACCESS\182MAN BACKUP\  -
   G:\DATA\ACCESS\182SYSTEM BACKUP\  -
   G:\DATA\ACCESS\CISPS SPT DATABASE BACKUP\  -
   G:\DATA\ACCESS\CISUM SPT DATABASE BACKUP\ ' -

Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (change eye to i to reply)

The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
Good enough is the enemy of 

Re: Navision backup and SQL error

2003-06-24 Thread Chris Murphy
Firstly, welcome to the list.  I would recommend that you browse the
QuickFacts that wise Richard has put together at:
http://people.bu.edu/rbs/ADSM.funcdir whenever you have questions about
ITSM.   Secondly, keep an eye out for monthly FAQ's put out by Mark
Stapleton (search ADSM.ORG for previous copies).


2.
How do I got about backing up a navision installtion, I don't know the
least about navision - does it
have it's own TDP or what do I do ?

As for this, we use Navision also.  Which flavor are you using, the native
database engine, or the SQL-option for Navision?


Chris Murphy
IT Network Analyst
Idaho Dept. of Lands
Office: (208) 334-0293
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
From 101 Reasons you cannot find your SysAdmin:
#80 - The admin is emptying the bit buckets


Re: Configuring TSM for MSCS.

2003-06-24 Thread Carlos Bravo Arredondo
I configured my dsm.opt files on each clustergroup, like this:

NODENAMECRITC
PASSWORDACCESS  GENERATE
TCPSERVERADDRESS180.175.193.77
DOMAIN  E:
TCPCLIENTADDRESS180.177.74.25
CLUSTERNODE YES
ERRORLOGNAMEE:\TSM\DSMERROR.LOG
SCHEDLOGNAMEE:\TSM\DSMSCHED.LOG
COMPRESSION YES
HTTPPORT1581
TCPCLIENTPORT   1511
--
And the physical nodes like this:
--
PASSWORDACCESS  GENERATE
TCPSERVERADDRESS180.175.193.77
LANGUAGEspanish
COMPRESSION YES
COMPRESSALWAYS YES
-
The configuration of the client node in my TSM Server is set up likte
this:

Client Nodes : DOMINIO1 CRITC


Node Name CRITC
Platform WinNT
Policy Domain Name DOMINIO1
Password Set Date/Time 2003-06-18 11:40:06.00
Invalid Sign-on Count 0
Contact TSM
Compression CLIENT
Archive Delete Allowed? YES
Backup Delete Allowed? NO
Locked? NO
Last Access Date/Time 2003-06-23 23:15:50.00
Registration Date/Time 2003-06-18 11:40:06.00
Registering Administrator CBRAVO
Last Communication Method Used Tcp/Ip
Bytes Received Last Session 282
Bytes Sent Last Session 2390
Duration of Last Session 0.37
Idle Wait Last Session 95.98
Comm. Wait Last Session 0.00
Media Wait Last Session 0.00
Client Version 5
Client Release 1
Client Level 0
Client Sub-level 0
Client OS Level 5.00
Optionset -
Aggregated? YES
URL http://180.177.74.25:1511
Node Type CLIENT
Password Expiration Period -
Keep Mount Point? NO
Maximum Mount Points Allowed 2
Auto Filespace Rename  NO
Validate Protocol No
--
But it doesn`t works. If i set URL with the 1581 port, i just can see
the drives of the physical node and not of the clustergroup.
And if I set the 1511 port the browser sends me an error page.
I configured my scheduler, cad and remoteagent with the new dsm.opt file
but it doesn`t works. Do you see a wrong parameter?
thanx

Carlos Bravo Arredondo
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Calzada de Tlalpan 3016, Col. Espartaco, Mexico, D.F.
Tel. 51741924


-Mensaje original-
De: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] En nombre de
John Monahan
Enviado el: Jueves, 19 de Junio de 2003 01:30 p.m.
Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Asunto: Re: Configuring TSM for MSCS.

ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 06/19/2003
12:18:16 PM:

 According to the TSM docs, i installed and configured TSM client in
each
 cluster node, then i created a dsm.opt file on each physical disk
owned
 by each clustergroup.
 In the dsm.opt I set the option httpport 1511 and http1512 for each
 clustergroup, but I can`t access via http to my clients
(clustergroups).
 Do I need to setup the httpports? How should I configure the web
client
 ?

 Carlos Bravo Arredondo
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Calzada de Tlalpan 3016, Col. Espartaco, Mexico, D.F.
 Tel. 51741924

These are the options I have in every cluster, that are different from a
normal client:
tcpclientaddress ip of the cluster group
nodename name of the cluster group
clusternode yes
httpport unique, I typically do 1581, 1582, 1583, etc.
tcpclientport unique, I typically do 1502, 1503, 1504, etc.

You also need to use dsmcutil.exe to setup the services for each cluster
group (follow the docs), typically:
TSM Scheduler
TSM CAD
TSM Remote Client Agent

Once that is done on each node, then you create and start the required
services as generic services within cluster administrator.

Then both the scheduler and the web client should work, assuming your
options files were setup correctly and you installed the services
correctly.  Make sure you use the right port number in your web browser
when connecting.



__
John Monahan
Senior Consultant Enterprise Solutions
Computech Resources, Inc.
Office: 952-833-0930 ext 109
Cell: 952-221-6938
http://www.compures.com


Re: Navision backup and SQL error

2003-06-24 Thread Hooft, Jeroen
1. maybe this one:
http://msgs.adsm.org/cgi-bin/get/adsm0211/930.html


-Original Message-
From: Martin Jeppesen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 23 June 2003 17:20
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Navision backup and SQL error

Hi all
Just joined the list and have 2 questions waiting!

1.
We have quite a few SQL servers to backup and until now no problems, but I
do have 2 sql servers that I just can't seem to get working like they
should.
I keep getting the error:



 ACO5422E Received the following from the MS SQL server:
 06/19/2003 15:14:59 [Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver][SQL
 Server]Backup or restore operation terminating abnormally.
 Microsoft SQL-DMO (ODBC SQLState: 42000)
 (HRESULT:0x80040bc5)



This specifik error is copied from the log file after i attempted to run a
manual backup.
It is SQL TDP version 2.2 and SQL server version 7.0 running on both a
win2000 and NT4 machine.


2.
How do I got about backing up a navision installtion, I don't know the
least about navision - does it have it's own TDP or what do I do ?


Best Regards
Martin


select statement for active files/client/tape

2003-06-24 Thread Joni Moyer
Hi all SQL gurus!

I am going to a disaster recovery shortly and I have the users asking if
there is any select statement or method to find all active files, what
tapes these files are on and the order that they are on the tape for each
client for the offsite tape copies.  Is this possible?  And if so, how
intensive is this on the server?  We have the tsm server running on os/390
2.10 at version 5.1.6.2 and this would be for Sun Solaris servers (a
majority of them are at the 4.2.1 client version).

If anyone has any suggestions for a way to do this or for a fast restore
process for disaster recovery I would appreciate it!  Thank you!

Joni Moyer
Systems Programmer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(717)975-8338


Re: select statement for active files/client/tape

2003-06-24 Thread Richard Sims
I am going to a disaster recovery shortly and I have the users asking if
there is any select statement or method to find all active files, what
tapes these files are on and the order that they are on the tape for each
client for the offsite tape copies.  Is this possible?  And if so, how
intensive is this on the server?  We have the tsm server running on os/390
2.10 at version 5.1.6.2 and this would be for Sun Solaris servers (a
majority of them are at the 4.2.1 client version).

If anyone has any suggestions for a way to do this or for a fast restore
process for disaster recovery I would appreciate it!  Thank you!

It may be somewhat artificial for a DR, but:  Backup Set.
And even if you don't use the BS per se, you can note what tapes were
used to create the compendium of Active files.

   Richard Sims, BU


5.1.7 CRCData Parameter

2003-06-24 Thread Shannon Bach
We have just put the 5.1.7 PTF for the MVS/OS-390 TSM Server on the test
LPAR.  Although it cannot be tested extensively, I try to do every possible
task that is possible.  We upgraded to a Magstar 3494 (3590 12GB) last
year, which I use for all of TSM except the Archive's.  Instead the
Archives go directly to 3494 tapes (about 800 MB) in our old Memorex ATL.
Since the test LPAR does not have a sequential primary storage going to the
Magstar I thought to create one, the old ATL will soon be going away.   In
defining this stgpool I ran across the CRCData parameter.  After reading
everything I could about it I still haven't quite figured out if it would
be beneficial or not.  This is my take on it and if I'm wrong would someone
please let me know?
1.  By not using the CRCData (default), everything stays exactly like it
was in 4.1 or 4.2, meaning that it will still search or repair DB
inconsistencies if fix=yes, but it will go through all the data on the
volume to check for  these problems.

2.  By using CRCData=yes, the data is stored with this CRC info, which uses
more overhead on each of the tapes it writes to.  As I backup to disk and
then migrate to tape, this overhead would happen during migration and the
Offsite copy, and would probably also affect the  DB backup because of this
added CRC information.  Butwhen I need to audit a tape the DB would
first compare CRC data.  If both the DB and the tape CRC data is in sync it
would not have to actually go through the whole tape looking for problems
and would actually use less overhead at this time.  If they weren't in sync
and fix=yes it would then process like the old audit volume where it would
go through the whole cart looking for inconsistencies.

But the end result would be the same, right?  All the CRC data can do is
know a little faster if there is a inconsistency or save a little time if
there is not a problem but it does not actually do anything else?  So
overall it would depend on if I wanted to use more overhead in the tape
pool processing or instead in the audit of a tape?  Does anyone have other
takes on this?  I would appreciate any and all opinions.

Thank You,
Shannon

Madison Gas  Electric Co.
Operations Analyst - Data Center Services
e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Fwd: When you get a chance

2003-06-24 Thread Mark Hayden
Below is a question from our Oracle DB...Any input please!

Will you contact IBM and find out if they have an API to interface
between Oracle's OEM and Tivoli?


Thanks, Mark Hayden
Informations Systems Analyst
E-Mail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Fwd: When you get a chance

2003-06-24 Thread Justin Bleistein
If OEM uses RMAN yes it's called: Tivoli Data Protection (TDP) for
Oracle. thanks!

--Justin Richard Bleistein
Unix/TSM Systems Administrator (Sungard eSourcing)
Desk: (856) 566 - 3485
Cell:(856) 912 - 0861
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



  Mark Hayden
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  Manager
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  06/24/2003 03:57
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  Please respond to
  ADSM: Dist Stor
  Manager






Below is a question from our Oracle DB...Any input please!

Will you contact IBM and find out if they have an API to interface
between Oracle's OEM and Tivoli?


Thanks, Mark Hayden
Informations Systems Analyst
E-Mail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Fwd: When you get a chance

2003-06-24 Thread Mark Hayden
Below is a question from our Oracle DB...Any input please!

Sorry, I should have put more in my message. We are running TDP 2.2 for
Oracle, so we have installed both the cTSM client and the TDP. This
resides on a Unix box running Oracle 8.Both the client and the TDP
have a API to Install, and I chose the client API, due to higher
versionThis has worked fine in the past, but not sure why this OEM
needs a another or different API...Thanks


Will you contact IBM and find out if they have an API to interface
between Oracle's OEM and Tivoli?


Thanks, Mark Hayden
Informations Systems Analyst
E-Mail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: When you get a chance

2003-06-24 Thread Sonny Nnamchi
In a message dated 6/24/2003 3:59:15 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Below is a question from our Oracle DB...Any input please!

 Will you contact IBM and find out if they have an API to interface
 between Oracle's OEM and Tivoli?


 Thanks, Mark Hayden
 Informations Systems Analyst
 E-Mail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Try Tivoli TDP for Oracle with your TSM Installation...
I hope this helps ?

Sonny Nnamchi
Atlanta, GA


Running TDP scripts using Oracle OEM

2003-06-24 Thread Mark Hayden
Hi All, This is another question to one I already have out there. What
we want to be able to do in a short disc., is have TSM call our TDP
scripts from Oracle Enterprise Manager instead of creating multiple
scripts. So TSm would call OEM and run the correct TDP backupThis
may be asking too much, but wondered if anyone had tried this...Thanks

Thanks, Mark Hayden
Informations Systems Analyst
E-Mail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: looking for a doc which tracks messages format changes for actlog

2003-06-24 Thread Andrew Raibeck
I don't believe there is any such document.

In the case of ANS/ANE4987E, the change was made per APAR IC35141, which 
called our attention to the blank space. The blank space was not 
intentional, and thus was corrected; the object name is supposed to be 
shown as a single entity with no intervening blanks (except for any 
embedded blanks that are part of the object name itself).

Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
Good enough is the enemy of excellence.




David Rigaudiere [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager

 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc: 
Subject:looking for a doc which tracks messages format changes for 
actlog



Hi *SMers,
anyone knows a documentation where we can find the changes about the
messages in the actlog ?
ie with 5.1.7.0 the ANE4987E message changed.
The space between folder and file name has been removed.

maybee a CHANGE file ?

Best regards

--
David  Rigaudiere  -+-  Administration  TSM  -+-
Paris -+- 40, rue de Courcelles -+- 4e étage -+-
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Moving Copypool to a new tape library

2003-06-24 Thread Steve Harris
HI all,

I'm running TSM server 4.2.3.3 on aix 5.1.  TSM 5.2 testing starts as soon as the 
media arrives.

I currently have several tape pools and associated copy pools writing to a 3494, all 
using the same device class. Copypool tapes are sent offsite daily.
I've acquired a second 3494 which is now lan and san attached at our second site.

Next step is to change processing so that copypools directly use the offsite library 
instead of the onsite one.

If the primary and copy pools were in the different devclasses I could just update the 
copypool devclass, but this is not the case. 
The manual shows no way of updating the devclass  associated with a stgpool after it 
is created. 

Move data won't move between copypools and even if it did the next days copy 
processing would just back-fill the moved data.
I can't just set up a second copypool to the new location and live with two copies for 
a while because there are about 600 volumes involved and I don't have that many free 
tapes.

All I can think of is creating a whole new storage pool hierarchy and pointing new 
backups to that.  The old data will gradually expire and eventually I can use move 
data to clean up the old primary pools.

Anyone got any better ideas?

Thanks

Steve.

Steve Harris
AIX and TSM Admin
Queensland Health, Brisbane Australia





 
  



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Re: Moving Copypool to a new tape library

2003-06-24 Thread Deon George
Steve,

Just to be sure that I understand you, you have PRIMARY storage pool A
and COPY stgpool B both in library 1. You now have another library 2
and would create a new storage pool C - You would like to move all the
media from B to C?

OK, here is an option that I though of quickly (hopefully there is a
better way though)...

Make library 1 your offsite library (for copys), and library 2 your
onsite library (for primarys) (or move all the tapes around so that it
appears that way). You can then move your PRIMARY tapes with the MOVE
NODEDATA command from PRIMARY storage pool A to PRIMARY storagepool C,
one node/filesystem at a time. (Where the devclass class points to the
appropriate library).

I only have TSM 5.1 here - so I cant remember if MOVE NODEDATA is in 4.2.
If not, you can use the MOVE DATA command to move data tapes at a time.

Will that fly?

...deon
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HI all,

I'm running TSM server 4.2.3.3 on aix 5.1.  TSM 5.2 testing starts as soon
as the media arrives.

I currently have several tape pools and associated copy pools writing to a
3494, all using the same device class. Copypool tapes are sent offsite
daily.
I've acquired a second 3494 which is now lan and san attached at our
second site.

Next step is to change processing so that copypools directly use the
offsite library instead of the onsite one.

If the primary and copy pools were in the different devclasses I could
just update the copypool devclass, but this is not the case.
The manual shows no way of updating the devclass  associated with a
stgpool after it is created.

Move data won't move between copypools and even if it did the next days
copy processing would just back-fill the moved data.
I can't just set up a second copypool to the new location and live with
two copies for a while because there are about 600 volumes involved and I
don't have that many free tapes.

All I can think of is creating a whole new storage pool hierarchy and
pointing new backups to that.  The old data will gradually expire and
eventually I can use move data to clean up the old primary pools.

Anyone got any better ideas?

Thanks

Steve.

Steve Harris
AIX and TSM Admin
Queensland Health, Brisbane Australia










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Re: Moving Copypool to a new tape library

2003-06-24 Thread Deon George
I also though of this:

Again, swaping the roll of the libraries as I described in my previous
message - you could:

* Mark all your primaries as DESTROYED
* Update the stgpool so that MAXSCR=0
* Define a new STGPOOL for the new library, and have your backups go to
it,
* Restore STGPOOL to the new storage pool in the other library

As tapes become empty in library 1, move them to library 2.

Again, you could do this a tape (or set of tapes) at a time.

...deon
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