Re: showing downversioned ...

[Henrik Wahlstedt]

Hi,

I´m not sure I will call it a bug.

It says Command Line Administrative Interface - Version 5, Release 2,
Level 2.0 which is the TSM client version you are were using before you
upgraded your client. Not server level which you get with 'q stat'.

//Henrik





   

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- Original Message -
From: Rushforth, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: showing downversioned ...


Try Q status to see what it shows.  This sounds like a bug from the past
where the command line showed the wrong server version.

-Original Message-
From: goc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: showing downversioned ...

hi all,

after upgrading from 5.2.2.5 to 5.2.3.0
when logging in it shows me this ...

IBM Tivoli Storage Manager
Command Line Administrative Interface - Version 5, Release 2, Level 2.0
(c) Copyright by IBM Corporation and other(s) 1990, 2003. All Rights
Reserved.

Session established with server TSMIBLER: AIX-RS/6000
  Server Version 5, Release 2, Level 2.0
  Server date/time: 07/13/04   15:36:27  Last access: 07/13/04
15:29:24


tsm: TSMIBLER

hmm ... strange  server verision 5 release 2 level 2.0 ??

and of course i did halt the server before upgrading ... so i'm confused

thanks.


tsm ee 5.2.3.0 (or 5.2.2.0) ? :=)
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Re: How to setup GUI to access NDMP TOC for DAR?

[Bos, Karel]

Hi,

Never seen the BA client GUI being able to display the NAS TOC, but the WEB client 
will do the trick.

Regards, 

Karel

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Subject: How to setup GUI to access NDMP TOC for DAR?


I've been testing NDMP backups using the datamover of an EMC Celerra
writing to a SAN attached 3494.

I needed to read between the lines in the docs a bit to figure out to set
it up, but its working.

But I don't see any info on how to setup a W2K B-A GUI so that it will read
the TOC(table of contents) and allow for DAR(direct access restore) of the
Celerra. (This seems to be how it needs to work, based on reading the
current TSM Admin Guide (for AIX).)

Do I need the NAS portion of the B-A client installed, even though the
system I have the W2K GUI on doesn't have access to the NAS portion of the
Celerra?

I've added a nasnode line to the dsm.opt, but the client still doesn't
show an entry for the Celerra in the GUI.

Any hints or pointers to pertinent docs appreciated.

Thanks, [RC]


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Re: showing downversioned ...

[goc]

hi, i think you are not correct

not that line ... below is the one i'm pointing on ...
Server Version 5, Release 2, Level 2.0


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Hi,

I4m not sure I will call it a bug.

It says Command Line Administrative Interface - Version 5, Release 2,
Level 2.0 which is the TSM client version you are were using before you
upgraded your client. Not server level which you get with 'q stat'.

//Henrik






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Subject: Re: showing downversioned ...


Try Q status to see what it shows.  This sounds like a bug from the past
where the command line showed the wrong server version.

-Original Message-
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Subject: showing downversioned ...

hi all,

after upgrading from 5.2.2.5 to 5.2.3.0
when logging in it shows me this ...

IBM Tivoli Storage Manager
Command Line Administrative Interface - Version 5, Release 2, Level 2.0
(c) Copyright by IBM Corporation and other(s) 1990, 2003. All Rights
Reserved.

Session established with server TSMIBLER: AIX-RS/6000
  Server Version 5, Release 2, Level 2.0
  Server date/time: 07/13/04   15:36:27  Last access: 07/13/04
15:29:24


tsm: TSMIBLER

hmm ... strange  server verision 5 release 2 level 2.0 ??

and of course i did halt the server before upgrading ... so i'm confused

thanks.


tsm ee 5.2.3.0 (or 5.2.2.0) ? :=)
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Re: Client Option Sets vs. Option Files

[goc]

hi, how many client are you handlig ?

thanks,

goran


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Subject: Re: Client Option Sets vs. Option Files


 We use about 5 different cloptsets.
 One for macs, one for Win2K, one for Win2K3 servers, one for Windows
 desktops, one for AIX servers, etc.

 We put in the cloptset things that apply to all Win2K servers, (or macs,
or
 AIX, etc.)
 and put in dsm.opt anything that only applies to that particular client.
 That seems to be the most logical thing for us.

 That way nobody has to remember all the annoying stuff that applies to
EVERY
 windows system,
 'cause it's all in one place.
 And we don't have multiple people putting a zillion machine-specific
things
 into the cloptset that we might trip up on later.

 See more answers below each question:

 1) Can we use just one large option set that encompasses all possible
 excludes and includes (since our includes are usually directory
 specific)?

 all POSSIBLE?  Not sure what that would mean!!  :)
 Duuno, probably.  I haven't tried putting AIX excludes into a cloptset for
a
 Windows sytem, for example,
 but I suspect it would work OK.


 a) If so, does that slow down backups being a larger option set
 file?

 Dunno.  Our largest CLOPTSET is 55 lines, and I haven't seen any
 noticeable slowdown.
 Cloptsets are pretty harmless, have never run into any real gotcha's
(except
 for the lack of an editor!)

   b) Does the server read it each time for each client that logs
 on?

 Dunno, never wondered.  Probably, 'cause- you can do a q inclexcl even if
 you aren't doing a backup.
 I suspect the cloptset is small compared to the list of active backups
that
 gets sent down for a normal incremental!

  c) Is it a problem if multiple servers log on at the same time?

 Nope, works just like you want it to.

 2) Can we use both option sets and option files, where we can have the
 specifics added to the option file and the generic in the option set?


 Yep, that's what we do.

 It's a little weird - for options other than INCLUDE/EXCLUDE, you can
 specify whether the server option overrides the local dsm.opt.
 But for INCLUDE/EXCLUDE, ALL the includes and excludes are merged
together.
 So you could have conflicts.

 So after you set up your CLOPTSET, be sure you go to a client and do q
 inclexcl to make sure you are getting the results you want.
 (We don't have that situation, since we leave in dsm.opt only the things
 that apply to the specific client.)

 Hope that helps!

 Wanda Prather
 I/O, I/O, It's all about I/O  -(me)

Re: showing downversioned ...

[Henrik Wahlstedt]

hmm you´re right, wrong line...

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hi, i think you are not correct

not that line ... below is the one i'm pointing on ...
Server Version 5, Release 2, Level 2.0


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Hi,

I4m not sure I will call it a bug.

It says Command Line Administrative Interface - Version 5, Release 2,
Level 2.0 which is the TSM client version you are were using before you
upgraded your client. Not server level which you get with 'q stat'.

//Henrik






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- Original Message -
From: Rushforth, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 3:59 PM
Subject: Re: showing downversioned ...


Try Q status to see what it shows.  This sounds like a bug from the past
where the command line showed the wrong server version.

-Original Message-
From: goc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: July 13, 2004 8:42 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: showing downversioned ...

hi all,

after upgrading from 5.2.2.5 to 5.2.3.0
when logging in it shows me this ...

IBM Tivoli Storage Manager
Command Line Administrative Interface - Version 5, Release 2, Level 2.0
(c) Copyright by IBM Corporation and other(s) 1990, 2003. All Rights
Reserved.

Session established with server TSMIBLER: AIX-RS/6000
  Server Version 5, Release 2, Level 2.0
  Server date/time: 07/13/04   15:36:27  Last access: 07/13/04
15:29:24


tsm: TSMIBLER

hmm ... strange  server verision 5 release 2 level 2.0 ??

and of course i 

subdir option ignored?

[Warren, Matthew (Retail)]

Hallo TSM'ers,

I have a situation where it seems the subidr option is being ignored for
a backup.

From the base TSM install dir I created the following directory
structure;

.../sub1/sub2/

and placed a file called testfile within it.

What follows is a transcript from some testing I did, that appears to
show that even with 'subdir yes' in the dsm.opt subdirs are only being
backed up when I use the -subdir=y option on the TSM command line. The
O/S  TSM client details are;  

SunOS lomond 5.8 Generic_108528-25 sun4u sparc SUNW,Sun-Fire-880
Command Line Backup/Archive Client Interface - Version 5, Release 2,
Level 0.0
TSM  Server Version 5, Release 2, Level 2.3

If anyone can say what I'm doing wrong, or confirm it as a problem,
would be much appreciated.

Thanks;


tsm q pr
ANS1138E The 'QUERY' command must be followed by a subcommand
tsm q pr

# pg dsm.opt
SErvername   carsington
subdir yes


# dsmc
IBM Tivoli Storage Manager
Command Line Backup/Archive Client Interface - Version 5, Release 2,
Level 0.0
(c) Copyright by IBM Corporation and other(s) 1990, 2003. All Rights
Reserved.

Node Name: LOMOND
Session established with server CARSINGTON: AIX-RS/6000
  Server Version 5, Release 2, Level 2.3
  Server date/time: 07/14/04   11:20:11  Last access: 07/14/04
11:19:48

tsm i ./*

Incremental backup of volume './*'
Successful incremental backup of '/opt/tivoli/tsm/client/ba/bin/*'


Total number of objects inspected:   28
Total number of objects backed up:0
Total number of objects updated:  0
Total number of objects rebound:  0
Total number of objects deleted:  0
Total number of objects expired:  0
Total number of objects failed:   0
Total number of bytes transferred:0  B
Data transfer time:0.00 sec
Network data transfer rate:0.00 KB/sec
Aggregate data transfer rate:  0.00 KB/sec
Objects compressed by:0%
Elapsed processing time:   00:00:04



tsm i ./* -subdir=y

Incremental backup of volume './*'
Directory-- 512 /opt/tivoli/tsm/client/ba/bin/sub1/sub2
[Sent]
Normal File-- 0
/opt/tivoli/tsm/client/ba/bin/sub1/sub2/testfile [Sent]
Successful incremental backup of '/opt/tivoli/tsm/client/ba/bin/*'


Total number of objects inspected:  128
Total number of objects backed up:2
Total number of objects updated:  0
Total number of objects rebound:  0
Total number of objects deleted:  0
Total number of objects expired:  0
Total number of objects failed:   0
Total number of bytes transferred:0  B
Data transfer time:0.00 sec
Network data transfer rate:0.00 KB/sec
Aggregate data transfer rate:  0.00 KB/sec
Objects compressed by:0%
Elapsed processing time:   00:00:04
tsm quit


# touch sub1/sub2/testfile2


# vi dsm.sys
   SErvername   carsington
   NODENAME lomond
   TCPCLIENTAddress lomond
   COMMmethod   TCPip
   TCPPort  1500
   TCPServeraddress carsington.cop.eme.uk
   COMPRESSION  No
   INCLEXCL
/app/scripts/config_files/tsm/lomond.DEVP_inclexcl
   SCHEDLOGNAME dsmsched.log
   SCHEDLOGRETENTION7 D
   QUERYSCHEDPERIOD 1
   SCHEDMODEPrompted
   COMMRESTARTDuration  30
   COMMRESTARTInterval  60
   ERRORLOGRET  7 D
   PASSWORDACCESS   GENERATE
   TCPNODELAY   YES
   NFSTIMEout  10
subdir y
~


# vi dsm.opt
SErvername   carsington
* subdir yes
~
:q!
# dsmc
ANS1036S Invalid option 'SUBDIR' found in options file
'/opt/tivoli/tsm/client/ba/bin/dsm.sys'
 at line number : 36
 Invalid entry : 'subdir y'

ANS1038S Invalid option specified
# vi dsm.sys
   SErvername   carsington
   NODENAME lomond
   TCPCLIENTAddress lomond
   COMMmethod   TCPip
   TCPPort  1500
   TCPServeraddress carsington.cop.eme.uk
   COMPRESSION  No
   INCLEXCL
/app/scripts/config_files/tsm/lomond.DEVP_inclexcl
   SCHEDLOGNAME dsmsched.log
   SCHEDLOGRETENTION7 D
   QUERYSCHEDPERIOD 1
   SCHEDMODEPrompted
   COMMRESTARTDuration  30
   COMMRESTARTInterval  60
   ERRORLOGRET  7 D
   PASSWORDACCESS   GENERATE
   TCPNODELAY   YES
   NFSTIMEout  10
~
:q!
# vi dsm.opt
SErvername   carsington
subdir yes
~
:q!
# dsmc
IBM Tivoli Storage Manager
Command Line Backup/Archive Client Interface - Version 5, Release 2,
Level 0.0
(c) Copyright by IBM Corporation and other(s) 1990, 2003. All Rights
Reserved.

Node Name: LOMOND
Session established with server CARSINGTON: AIX-RS/6000
  Server Version 5, Release 2, Level 2.3
  Server date/time: 07/14/04   11:22:16  Last access: 07/14/04
11:20:32

tsm i ./*

Incremental backup of volume './*'
Successful incremental backup of '/opt/tivoli/tsm/client/ba/bin/*'


Total number of objects inspected:   28
Total 

directory management classes

[Joni Moyer]

Hello everyone!

I was just wondering what the standard practice is for backing up
directories.  I know that it is recommended that you backup management
classes with dirmc and specify a certain retention period or else it will
get the longest retained management class in that domain, but how do you
know how long to keep them?  Does it get bound to a backup copy group?  If
so, how many versions would you keep of a directory?  I guess I am a little
confused on how this works.  Also, if I have 5 domains, would it be ok to
direct all of the directories to the same disk pool and then send them to
the same offsite copy pool?  Thanks in advance for any advice you might
have!


Joni Moyer
Highmark
Storage Systems
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Fax:(717)302-5974
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Cancel all processes

[Patrick Rainer]

Hi

Is there a possibility to cancel all active processes at once, like
cancel session all for sessions?
I need such a command for an installation routine.

Regards
Patrick

dsmerror.log 2003 Active Directory Server

[Tim Brown]

getting these messages for my 2003 AD Servers
i installed the latest client Version 5, Release 2, Level 2.10

07/13/2004 23:06:39 sessRecvVerb(): Invalid verb received.
07/13/2004 23:06:39 sessRecvVerb(): length=, verb=00,magic=04
07/13/2004 23:06:39 sessRecvVerb(): Invalid verb received.
07/13/2004 23:06:39 sessRecvVerb(): length=, verb=00,magic=04
07/13/2004 23:06:42 ANS1026E Session rejected: Communications protocol error

server on z/os is Version 5, Release 2, Level 0.0 

any one seen this before

Tim Brown
Systems Specialist
Central Hudson Gas  Electric
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Poughkeepsie, NY 12601
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Re: Cancel all processes

[Warren, Matthew (Retail)]

I don't think there is a psecific command, but from a unix Ksh script I
do it with the following;


procs=$(dsmadmc -id=x -pa=x select \'grepme\',process_num from processes
| awk '/^grepme/{print $2}')
for proc in ${procs}
do
dsmadmc -id=x -pa=x can pr ${proc}
done



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Hi

Is there a possibility to cancel all active processes at once, like
cancel session all for sessions?
I need such a command for an installation routine.

Regards
Patrick


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Re: Cancel all processes

[MC Matt Cooper (2838)]

I am not aware of a cancel all processes.  However, you can write a
script to do it.  It would be based on the fact that TSM will tell you
all the processes that are running.select process_num from processes
will give you the process_num  numbers that need to be canceled
Matt  

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Hi

Is there a possibility to cancel all active processes at once, like
cancel session all for sessions?
I need such a command for an installation routine.

Regards
Patrick

Recommended 5.1 client fot Win2k

[John Naylor]

TSM host z/OS 5.1.8
Finally getting our win2k clients on to 5.1 code.
A while back I was recommended 5.1.6.2 as a good version.
Is this still the favourite
Recommendations please

thanks,
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Re: Cancel all processes

[Dan Foster]

Hot Diggety! MC Matt Cooper (2838) was rumored to have written:
 I am not aware of a cancel all processes.  However, you can write a
 script to do it.  It would be based on the fact that TSM will tell you
 all the processes that are running.select process_num from processes
 will give you the process_num  numbers that need to be canceled

One caveat, from the 5.1 help information:

: Some processes, such as reclamation, will generate mount requests in
: order to complete processing. If a process has a pending mount request,
: the process may not respond to a CANCEL PROCESS command until the mount
: request has been answered or cancelled by using either the REPLY or
: CANCEL REQUEST command, or by timing out.

: Use the QUERY REQUEST command to list open requests, or query the
: activity log to determine if a given process has a pending mount
: request.

So a simple q proc (or equivalent) + canc proc num operation may
usually work most of the time, but may fail at certain times if you
don't also check for this, too.

-Dan

Re: Emergency .. HELP

[asr]

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writes:


 Hi there

 I have reached my maximum extention of recovery log of 13 gb ... now I can't even 
 extend it so I can't log in and do a database back up ... can someone tell me how to 
 delete some of the recovery log ... is there any other way ?


Consider -exactly- how much log you have.

I've pulled my fat out of the fire before with a 1MB log extension.

After that experience, I made sure that I never never never added the last
~100M worth of log volume, and always had it formatted and ready to add.


- Allen S. Rout

Re: slow running windows 2000 client backup

[Levi, Ralph]

I tried the trace but didn't get any output from it.  Here are the
statements I used:

testflag instrument:detail
testflag instrument:api

I see the dsminstr.report file but it has 0 bytes in it.

Ralph

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Sent: July 12, 2004 5:18 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: slow running windows 2000 client backup


Ralph - I work in IBM TSM performance support. Please get a client
instruction trace as Richard suggests for this problem and post it to
the
listserver. I can take a look at it.


At 01:16 PM 7/12/2004 -0400, you wrote:
I have a windows 2000 clients (v5 sp 4 build 2195) running tsm 5.1.7
who's incremental backup never ends.  Using the timestamps next to
message:  ANS1898I , it is taking between 5 minutes and 1 hour to parse
through 500 files.  I have 100+ other servers that take about 2/100 of
a
second to pass through 500 files.

Tried rebooting the client and ran performance monitor.  Neither helped
or showed any problems.

Here is the bad server:

07/11/2004 14:23:08 ANS1898I * Processed   194,500 files *
07/11/2004 14:25:17 ANS1898I * Processed   195,000 files *
07/11/2004 14:34:18 ANS1898I * Processed   195,500 files *
07/11/2004 15:16:52 ANS1898I * Processed   196,000 files *

Here is a typical server:

07/04/2004 21:45:02 ANS1898I * Processed   649,000 files *
07/04/2004 21:45:05 ANS1898I * Processed   649,500 files *
07/04/2004 21:45:08 ANS1898I * Processed   650,000 files *
07/04/2004 21:45:10 ANS1898I * Processed   650,500 files *

Does anyone have any ideas?  The usual questions have been asked (what
changed?) but we still come up blank.

Thanks,
Ralph

Dave Canan
TSM Performance
IBM Advanced Technical Support
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Generating Backup Sets

[Moses Show]

Hi people,
Am attempting to create a backupset for one of our client nodes,
but am having a problem. I am using the GUI to do this. The problem is
that it doesn't seem to like the NAMETYPE parameter. Other than using the
command line to create the set is there anyway round this ?
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Re: TSM5.1.8: Can't Reclaim COPYPOOL Volume

[Prather, Wanda]

I find you don't even have to check the tape in.
If this is the typical problem lots of people run into that can be cleared
by an audit,
all you have to do is mark the tape READWRITE instead of OFFSITE.
When I run the AUDIT, TSM realizes there is not really any data on the tape
and doesn't even try to mount it.


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From: Dwight McCann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I normally reclaim offsite copypool volumes once a week.  When the
reclaim is complete, some volumes will be STATUS=EMPTY and
ACCESS=OFFSITE.  When I update the volume to ACCESS=READWRITE, it is
dropped from the Copy storage pool and I can put it back into the
scratchpool.  I have a tape that is not working that way.  It is 100%
reclaimable, 0.0% used, has no CONTENT, but just won't go empty.  Am I
doing something wrong or am I confused or am I having a Senior Moment.?

From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager on behalf of Coats, Jack
consider doing a 'delete volume VOLNAME discarddata=yes' if the volume is
really empty.
I must do this on occasion, but I don't like it.  Sometimes it happens if
there had been a read error on the tape.

...and if that doesn't work, you probably need to check the tape into the
library, set its access to READWRITE, and run an AUDIT VOLUME VOLUME_NAME
FIX=YES on it to clear the bad database entry that says that there is data
on the tape even thought there (probably) isn't.

--
Mark Stapleton

Re: Generating Backup Sets

[Stapleton, Mark]

From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager on behalf of Moses Show
Am attempting to create a backupset for one of our client nodes,
but am having a problem. I am using the GUI to do this. The problem is
that it doesn't seem to like the NAMETYPE parameter. Other than using the
command line to create the set is there anyway round this ?


It would help a lot if you would specify the version of TSM server you're using. 
Version 5.2.2.3 web interface has the nametype as a parameter. (I'm assuming you're 
creating a backupset of one filespace within a given node.)

--
Mark Stapleton

Re: dsmerror.log 2003 Active Directory Server

[Stapleton, Mark]

From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager on behalf of Tim Brown
getting these messages for my 2003 AD Servers
i installed the latest client Version 5, Release 2, Level 2.10
07/13/2004 23:06:39 sessRecvVerb(): Invalid verb received.
07/13/2004 23:06:39 sessRecvVerb(): length=, verb=00,magic=04
07/13/2004 23:06:39 sessRecvVerb(): Invalid verb received.
07/13/2004 23:06:39 sessRecvVerb(): length=, verb=00,magic=04
07/13/2004 23:06:42 ANS1026E Session rejected: Communications protocol error
server on z/os is Version 5, Release 2, Level 0.0 
any one seen this before
===

First of all, get off the base level of server code. Go to the latest maintenance 
level, and then see if the problem persists.

--
Mark Stapleton

Re: Cancel all processes

[Warren, Matthew (Retail)]

Would it fail, or just take a loong time to complete?

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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Dan Foster
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 1:23 PM
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Subject: Re: Cancel all processes

Hot Diggety! MC Matt Cooper (2838) was rumored to have written:
 I am not aware of a cancel all processes.  However, you can write a
 script to do it.  It would be based on the fact that TSM will tell you
 all the processes that are running.select process_num from
processes
 will give you the process_num  numbers that need to be canceled

One caveat, from the 5.1 help information:

: Some processes, such as reclamation, will generate mount requests in
: order to complete processing. If a process has a pending mount
request,
: the process may not respond to a CANCEL PROCESS command until the
mount
: request has been answered or cancelled by using either the REPLY or
: CANCEL REQUEST command, or by timing out.

: Use the QUERY REQUEST command to list open requests, or query the
: activity log to determine if a given process has a pending mount
: request.

So a simple q proc (or equivalent) + canc proc num operation may
usually work most of the time, but may fail at certain times if you
don't also check for this, too.

-Dan


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Re: Generating Backup Sets

[Moses Show]

The version of TSM server that we are using is 5.2.20 and the operating
system is Windows 2000. In the actual help facility on the server, it
states that if you do not specify a filespace data from all the clients
node's backed up and active files spaces will be included in the
backupset.




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Am attempting to create a backupset for one of our client nodes,
but am having a problem. I am using the GUI to do this. The problem is
that it doesn't seem to like the NAMETYPE parameter. Other than using the
command line to create the set is there anyway round this ?


It would help a lot if you would specify the version of TSM server you're
using. Version 5.2.2.3 web interface has the nametype as a parameter. (I'm
assuming you're creating a backupset of one filespace within a given
node.)

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archive problem/question

[Cain, Jason (Corporate)]

I am in the process of doing an archive for the first time of a unix file system.  The 
entire node has done backups before, and this is the first archive of a single file 
system.  The file system I am archiving has about 100,000 files in it; however the 
archive has been inspecting over 3,000,000 files and has taken over a day just to 
inspect.  Can someone please explain the process of the first time doing an archive, 
and if there is a way to speed the process.

Jason Cain

Re: archive problem/question

[Hooft, Jeroen]

Lots of symbolic links? 
Archive follows links by default.

 .-Yes-.
-ARCHSYMLinkasfile-+-+---
 '-No--'

Jeroen



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Subject: archive problem/question


I am in the process of doing an archive for the first time of a unix file system.  The 
entire node has done backups before, and this is the first archive of a single file 
system.  The file system I am archiving has about 100,000 files in it; however the 
archive has been inspecting over 3,000,000 files and has taken over a day just to 
inspect.  Can someone please explain the process of the first time doing an archive, 
and if there is a way to speed the process.

Jason Cain

Re: archive problem/question

[Cain, Jason (Corporate)]

I will try using ARCHSYMlinkasfile=no and give you an update...

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Lots of symbolic links? 
Archive follows links by default.

 .-Yes-.
-ARCHSYMLinkasfile-+-+---
 '-No--'

Jeroen



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Subject: archive problem/question


I am in the process of doing an archive for the first time of a unix file system.  The 
entire node has done backups before, and this is the first archive of a single file 
system.  The file system I am archiving has about 100,000 files in it; however the 
archive has been inspecting over 3,000,000 files and has taken over a day just to 
inspect.  Can someone please explain the process of the first time doing an archive, 
and if there is a way to speed the process.

Jason Cain

Re: archive problem/question

[Lloyd Dieter]

Given that you've only got 100,000 files in the directory, and it has
inspected 3,000,000 files, I'd guess something is wrong.

I've seen Unix systems that have inadvertently gotten circular link
definitions, and TSM will blindly follow them over  over again, showing
this type of behaviour.

You might want to set archsymlinkasfile=no on the client and try it again
(but read the client manual for this first, to make sure that this does
what you want it to do).

-Lloyd


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Cain, Jason (Corporate) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote thusly:

 I am in the process of doing an archive for the first time of a unix
 file system.  The entire node has done backups before, and this is the
 first archive of a single file system.  The file system I am archiving
 has about 100,000 files in it; however the archive has been inspecting
 over 3,000,000 files and has taken over a day just to inspect.  Can
 someone please explain the process of the first time doing an archive,
 and if there is a way to speed the process.

 Jason Cain



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Re: Client Option Sets vs. Option Files

[Joni Moyer]

Hi All!

Would anyone be willing to provide examples of your client option sets?  I
know that you will probably have certain parameters that other companies
wouldn't need, but as a starting point...  Thanks!


Joni Moyer
Highmark
Storage Systems
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Fax:(717)302-5974
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We use about 5 different cloptsets.
One for macs, one for Win2K, one for Win2K3 servers, one for Windows
desktops, one for AIX servers, etc.

We put in the cloptset things that apply to all Win2K servers, (or macs, or
AIX, etc.)
and put in dsm.opt anything that only applies to that particular client.
That seems to be the most logical thing for us.

That way nobody has to remember all the annoying stuff that applies to
EVERY
windows system,
'cause it's all in one place.
And we don't have multiple people putting a zillion machine-specific things
into the cloptset that we might trip up on later.

See more answers below each question:

1) Can we use just one large option set that encompasses all possible
excludes and includes (since our includes are usually directory
specific)?

all POSSIBLE?  Not sure what that would mean!!  :)
Duuno, probably.  I haven't tried putting AIX excludes into a cloptset for
a
Windows sytem, for example,
but I suspect it would work OK.


a) If so, does that slow down backups being a larger option set
file?

Dunno.  Our largest CLOPTSET is 55 lines, and I haven't seen any
noticeable slowdown.
Cloptsets are pretty harmless, have never run into any real gotcha's
(except
for the lack of an editor!)

  b) Does the server read it each time for each client that logs
on?

Dunno, never wondered.  Probably, 'cause- you can do a q inclexcl even if
you aren't doing a backup.
I suspect the cloptset is small compared to the list of active backups that
gets sent down for a normal incremental!

 c) Is it a problem if multiple servers log on at the same time?

Nope, works just like you want it to.

2) Can we use both option sets and option files, where we can have the
specifics added to the option file and the generic in the option set?


Yep, that's what we do.

It's a little weird - for options other than INCLUDE/EXCLUDE, you can
specify whether the server option overrides the local dsm.opt.
But for INCLUDE/EXCLUDE, ALL the includes and excludes are merged together.
So you could have conflicts.

So after you set up your CLOPTSET, be sure you go to a client and do q
inclexcl to make sure you are getting the results you want.
(We don't have that situation, since we leave in dsm.opt only the things
that apply to the specific client.)

Hope that helps!

Wanda Prather
I/O, I/O, It's all about I/O  -(me)

Re: Client Option Sets vs. Option Files

[Prather, Wanda]

Sure.  Here's a sample for  Win2K servers; customize it to be appropriate to
your environment; I'm no Windows expert!

define cloptset win2kserver   description=Backup options for TSM  Win2K
Servers
define clientopt win2kserver   compression oFF
define clientopt win2kserver   maxcmdretries 99
define clientopt win2kserver   queryschedperiod 24
define clientopt win2kserver   retryperiod 20
define clientopt win2kserver   slowincr no
define clientopt win2kserver   subdir yes
define clientopt win2kserver   subfilecaches 200
define clientopt win2kserver   txnbytelimit 25600
define clientopt win2kserver   inclexcl exclude *:\DOCUMENTS\...\INDEX.DAT
seq=15
define clientopt win2kserver   inclexcl exclude *:\IBMBIO.COM
seq=46
define clientopt win2kserver   inclexcl exclude *:\IBMDOS.COM
seq=47
define clientopt win2kserver   inclexcl exclude '*:\...\ea data. sf'
seq=50
define clientopt win2kserver   inclexcl exclude *:\...\*.swp
seq=55
define clientopt win2kserver   inclexcl exclude *:\...\*.csm
seq=65
define clientopt win2kserver   inclexcl exclude *:\...\*.par
seq=75
define clientopt win2kserver   inclexcl exclude '*:\microsoft uam
volume\*' seq=80
define clientopt win2kserver   inclexcl exclude '*:\microsoft uam
volume\...\*' seq=81
define clientopt win2kserver   inclexcl exclude
*:\...\system32\config\...\*seq=86
define clientopt win2kserver   inclexcl exclude
*:\Windows\spool\printers\* seq=87
define clientopt win2kserver   inclexcl exclude.dir *:\...\ntfrs\jet
seq=90
define clientopt win2kserver   inclexcl exclude.dir *:\...\ntds
seq=95
define clientopt win2kserver   inclexcl exclude.dir '*:\System Volume
Information'  seq=100
define clientopt win2kserver   inclexcl exclude.dir '*:\...\Temporary
Internet Files'   seq=105
define clientopt win2kserver   inclexcl exclude *:\RECYCLE?\...\*
seq=110
define clientopt win2kserver   inclexcl exclude.dir *:\RECYCLED
seq=111
define clientopt win2kserver   inclexcl exclude.dir *:\RECYCLER
seq=112
define clientopt win2kserver   inclexcl exclude *:\...\TEMP\...\*
seq=115
define clientopt win2kserver   inclexcl exclude *:\...\tmp\...\*
seq=120
define clientopt win2kserver   inclexcl exclude *:\...\*.tmp
seq=125
define clientopt win2kserver   inclexcl exclude.dir *:\TEMP
seq=126
define clientopt win2kserver   inclexcl exclude
*:\...\netscape*\...\cache\*seq=130
define clientopt win2kserver   inclexcl exclude.dir
*:\...\mozilla\...\cache   seq=131
define clientopt win2kserver   inclexcl exclude
*:\...\netscape\users\...\news\...\*seq=135
define clientopt win2kserver   inclexcl exclude.dir *:\...\History.IE5
seq=140
define clientopt win2kserver   inclexcl exclude.dir *:\...\MS\SMS
seq=141
define clientopt win2kserver   inclexcl exclude.dir *:\...\Catalog.wci
seq=142
define clientopt win2kserver   inclexcl exclude *:\...\PointCast*\...\*
seq=145
define clientopt win2kserver   inclexcl exclude
*:\...\baclient\...\cache\...\* seq=150
define clientopt win2kserver   inclexcl exclude '*:\...\Documents and
Settings\SMSCliSvcAcct*'   seq=153
define clientopt win2kserver   inclexcl exclude '*:\...\Documents and
Settings\SMSCliToknAcct*'  seq=154
define clientopt win2kserver   inclexcl exclude *:\WINNT\MS\SMS\LOGS\...\*
seq=155
define clientopt win2kserver   inclexcl exclude
*:\WINNT\MS\SMS\clicomp\...\complete\...\*seq=157
define clientopt win2kserver   inclexcl exclude '*:\...\Documents and
Settings\...\Recent\...\*'  seq=160
define clientopt win2kserver   inclexcl exclude
*:\...\WINNT\system32\Perflib*.dat  seq=170
define clientopt win2kserver   inclexcl exclude *:\...\ntuser.dat.LOG
seq=171
define clientopt win2kserver   inclexcl exclude *:\...\UsrClass.dat.LOG
seq=172
define clientopt win2kserver   inclexcl exclude.compression *:\...\*.zip
seq=190
define clientopt win2kserver   inclexcl exclude.compression *:\...\*.jpg
seq=191
define clientopt win2kserver   inclexcl exclude.compression *:\...\*.tif
seq=192
define clientopt win2kserver   inclexcl exclude.compression *:\...\*.gif
seq=193
define clientopt win2kserver   inclexcl exclude.compression *:\...\*.cgm
seq=194
define clientopt win2kserver   inclexcl include *:\...\dsmsched.log
MGTC_CHANGING   seq=200
define clientopt win2kserver   inclexcl include *:\...\dsmerror.log
MGTC_CHANGING   seq=202

Re: Cancel all processes

[Coats, Jack]

I have found it helpful to issue a 'cancel req ###' if there is a request
pending
associated with trying to get rid of a process.

In my experience, if it is trying to mount a tape, the tape must be mounted
before the
process will die gracefully.

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From: Warren, Matthew (Retail) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 8:38 AM
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Subject: Re: Cancel all processes


Would it fail, or just take a loong time to complete?

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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Dan Foster
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 1:23 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Cancel all processes

Hot Diggety! MC Matt Cooper (2838) was rumored to have written:
 I am not aware of a cancel all processes.  However, you can write a
 script to do it.  It would be based on the fact that TSM will tell you
 all the processes that are running.select process_num from
processes
 will give you the process_num  numbers that need to be canceled

One caveat, from the 5.1 help information:

: Some processes, such as reclamation, will generate mount requests in
: order to complete processing. If a process has a pending mount
request,
: the process may not respond to a CANCEL PROCESS command until the
mount
: request has been answered or cancelled by using either the REPLY or
: CANCEL REQUEST command, or by timing out.

: Use the QUERY REQUEST command to list open requests, or query the
: activity log to determine if a given process has a pending mount
: request.

So a simple q proc (or equivalent) + canc proc num operation may
usually work most of the time, but may fail at certain times if you
don't also check for this, too.

-Dan


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archive inactive backup copies

[Cain, Jason (Corporate)]

Does anyone know how to archive by command line inactive copies of backups?  I know I 
read somewhere on how to do this, but I have searched everywhere and  cannot find the 
syntax.

Thanks,
Jason Cain

WinXP clients losing connection

[DeLuisa Darren]

Hello all. I have an interesting situation on two WinXP workstations.
Instead of leaving their PCs up at night, they just restart them so they
are at the logon each morning and the workstation has been rebooted. The
TSM Scheduler service is running, but it seems that if you don't log
into the workstation, it does not matter, it just doesn't back up. I get
the message below. This message is always generated because they restart
the machine, but I don't understand why the connection does not come
back even though the service starts back up. Has anyone seen this? Thank
you for any help.

 Process Interrupted!!  Severing connection. 
07/14/2004 06:09:57 Querying server for next scheduled event.
07/14/2004 06:09:57 Node Name: **
07/14/2004 06:09:57 Session established with server ADSM: AIX-RS/6000
07/14/2004 06:09:57   Server Version 5, Release 2, Level 2.0
07/14/2004 06:09:57   Server date/time: 07/14/2004 06:09:58  Last
access: 07/14/2004 06:09:58

directory management class

[Joni Moyer]

Hello Everyone!

I am currently creating a new TSM environment and I would like to create a
disk storage pool for the directories and then make offsite copies to tape.
I will have approximately 5 domains and I was wondering if it would be
wrong to put all 5 server domain directories in the disk pool?  Should they
be seperate?  I had sent out an earlier question concering directory
management classes, but I haven't received any responses.  Any help would
be appreciated concerning this topic!


Joni Moyer
Highmark
Storage Systems
Work:(717)302-6603
Fax:(717)302-5974
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Re: directory management class

[Dale Jolliff]

In some circles, discussing the pros and cons of directory management
classes approaches discussing religion and politics - everyone has an
opinion and not everyone agrees with me ;)

How you do your DIRMC is really an it depends answer.

Do you have your data segregated by domain? i.e., windows/unix, etc.

For the obligatory RTFM,  there's always the Redbooks to look at, and the
implementation guide...


Dale Jolliff
Sungard Midrange Storage Administration
Office Telephone: (856) 566-5022





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Subject:directory management class


Hello Everyone!

I am currently creating a new TSM environment and I would like to create a
disk storage pool for the directories and then make offsite copies to
tape.
I will have approximately 5 domains and I was wondering if it would be
wrong to put all 5 server domain directories in the disk pool?  Should
they
be seperate?  I had sent out an earlier question concering directory
management classes, but I haven't received any responses.  Any help would
be appreciated concerning this topic!


Joni Moyer
Highmark
Storage Systems
Work:(717)302-6603
Fax:(717)302-5974
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AIX 4.3 server with TSM client 5.1.7.1 error with command line

[Luc Beaudoin]

When I launch the dsmc command I got this message ...

ANS0101E NLInit: Unable to open message repository
'/usr/tivoli/tsm/client/ba/bin/fr_CA/dsmclientV3.cat'.

I'm using the english version of the TSM client
I can do a manual incremental backup and restore  but if I do a backup
with the scheduler.. it doesn't work  can it be because of that
message ?

help ... thanks 
what is the easy way to see the default language of my server .

Re: directory management class

[Coats, Jack]

Joni,

We have a small disk pool for the directories (200M is big for us), and the
general data goes in a data pool (200G that I wish could be bigger), and
a separate disk pool for Exchange backups (60G holds 4 exchange databases).

We put all these to one tapepool, and do a single copypoool that is also on
tape.
The copypool goes off site.

We have several NT type domains and back them all up to the same pools.
Our TSM severs are Win2K, most clients are Win2K, NT, 2003 and a few AIX.

Does that help?

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From: Joni Moyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 1:33 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: directory management class


Hello Everyone!

I am currently creating a new TSM environment and I would like to create a
disk storage pool for the directories and then make offsite copies to tape.
I will have approximately 5 domains and I was wondering if it would be
wrong to put all 5 server domain directories in the disk pool?  Should they
be seperate?  I had sent out an earlier question concering directory
management classes, but I haven't received any responses.  Any help would
be appreciated concerning this topic!


Joni Moyer
Highmark
Storage Systems
Work:(717)302-6603
Fax:(717)302-5974
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Strange q ev output

[Kathleen Hallahan]

We've been seeing this for some time now, and haven't really done anything
about it as it doesn't seem to affect actual backup success in any way.
But it is rather odd, and it's appearing more frequently now.  Running a q
ev command at around 17:40 on 7/14 (in other words, just a few minutes ago)
brings up the following:



07/14/04   23:15:00  07/14/04   01:36:34  HE2UNX108.23- HE2UNX108
Completed
   15.SOL.ANY
07/14/04   23:15:00   HE2UNX109.23- HE2UNX109
Future
   15.SOL.ANY
07/14/04   23:15:00  07/14/04   01:36:25  HE2UNX111.23- HE2UNX111
Completed
   15.SOL.ANY
07/14/04   23:15:00  07/14/04   01:36:29  HE2UNX112.23- HE2UNX112
Completed

Is TSM psychic?  How does it know that these events, which are scheduled
for several hours in the future, will complete successfully?  We're running
TSM 5.2.2.0 on AIX 5.2, but I also used to see this intermittently on a 5.1
version of TSM on AIX 4.3.

Has anyone ever seen this, or heard what causes it?

Thanks,

Kathleen

Re: Strange q ev output

[Andrew Raibeck]

Curious. No, TSM is not psychic, as far as I know.

Can you post the *complete* output from the following:

1) dsmadmc -id=youradmin -pa= q ev * *

2) dsmadmc -id=youradmin -pa= q sch domain schedname

Specify the domain and schedule name for one of the scheduled events
showing the goofy times.

3) dsmadmc -id=youradmin -pa= show time

Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 07/14/2004
14:51:41:

 We've been seeing this for some time now, and haven't really done
anything
 about it as it doesn't seem to affect actual backup success in any way.
 But it is rather odd, and it's appearing more frequently now.  Running a
q
 ev command at around 17:40 on 7/14 (in other words, just a few minutes
ago)
 brings up the following:



 07/14/04   23:15:00  07/14/04   01:36:34  HE2UNX108.23- HE2UNX108
 Completed
15.SOL.ANY
 07/14/04   23:15:00   HE2UNX109.23- HE2UNX109
 Future
15.SOL.ANY
 07/14/04   23:15:00  07/14/04   01:36:25  HE2UNX111.23- HE2UNX111
 Completed
15.SOL.ANY
 07/14/04   23:15:00  07/14/04   01:36:29  HE2UNX112.23- HE2UNX112
 Completed

 Is TSM psychic?  How does it know that these events, which are scheduled
 for several hours in the future, will complete successfully?  We're
running
 TSM 5.2.2.0 on AIX 5.2, but I also used to see this intermittently on a
5.1
 version of TSM on AIX 4.3.

 Has anyone ever seen this, or heard what causes it?

 Thanks,

 Kathleen

Re: How to setup GUI to access NDMP TOC for DAR?

[TSM_User]

We just tested this today.

The TSM Client Manual for Windows has more details but we did the following:

In the dsm.opt file we added:
nasnodename = NetAppName (Celrra Name in your case)
domain.nas = all-nas
include.nas.fs MgmtClassName

From there you need to stop and start the client acceptor service.  When you connect 
to the web client http://servername:1581 you will now see your regular node name and 
your NAS node name.  Under the NAS node you can click down through its file system.

A note, we use the DIRMC option in our dsm.opt files.  We registered our NAS node and 
our regular client in 2 different policy domains.  Well, the web client kept failing 
with a protocol error.  We looked at the dsmerror.log and it kept saying that we had 
an invalid mgmt class with the DIRMC option.  When we connect with the dsmc command 
line and we didn't reciever any errors.  When we issued the command q filespace 
-class=nas we then saw that the error was occuring when reading the NAS data.  So we 
created the mgmtclass in the NAS domain and everything worked from there on.  This was 
odd of course because I don't think the NAS backup needs the DIRMC but that was what 
we found.  Everything we did was with a V5.2.3 server on Windows 2000 and the V5.2.3 
client on that same windows 2000 server.

Also, when you want to restore a file to an alternate location you can only choose a 
different volume.  We wanted to restore /vol/data/user1/test.txt to /vol/data/restore. 
 There was no option to pick a different folder only a different volume on the NetApp.

We ran one test to see what would happen if you tried to restore from something that 
you didn't create a TOC for.  You see the filespace but when you click on it it 
doesn't have anything below it.  That is what you would expect I guess but just note 
that you will still see the filespace.

For production we are going to backup the server using TSM server admin schedules.  We 
realize that you can backup data from a dsmc command.  We are going to test that 
tomorrow but at this time it doesn't look like we are going to use that.

Our current backups are going to an IBM 3583 with LTO1 drives directly connected via 
LVD SCSI to the NetApp.  We were able to spin both drives around 50 GB/hr each.  We 
are going to test a backup to Fibre 9840 soon using an ACSLS library definition which 
we hope to get better throughput on.

Robert Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've been testing NDMP backups using the datamover of an EMC Celerra
writing to a SAN attached 3494.

I needed to read between the lines in the docs a bit to figure out to set
it up, but its working.

But I don't see any info on how to setup a W2K B-A GUI so that it will read
the TOC(table of contents) and allow for DAR(direct access restore) of the
Celerra. (This seems to be how it needs to work, based on reading the
current TSM Admin Guide (for AIX).)

Do I need the NAS portion of the B-A client installed, even though the
system I have the W2K GUI on doesn't have access to the NAS portion of the
Celerra?

I've added a nasnode line to the dsm.opt, but the client still doesn't
show an entry for the Celerra in the GUI.

Any hints or pointers to pertinent docs appreciated.

Thanks, [RC]


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Re: Strange q ev output

[Andrew Raibeck]

Kathleen,

Thanks for the info, I agree that this is very strange.

I'm wondering if QUERY EVENT is putting the actual start date in the
scheduled start date field. For example, given:

07/14/04 23:15:00  07/14/04 01:36:34 HE2UNX108.23- HE2UNX108 Completed
  15.SOL.ANY

I wonder if it should be more like this:

07/13/04 23:15:00  07/14/04 01:36:34 HE2UNX108.23- HE2UNX108 Completed
  15.SOL.ANY


(i.e. should the first column show 07/13/04 instead of 07/14/04).

Can you review your activity log for early morning today (14 July) and
check whether the timestamps in the ACTUAL START field coincide with the
activity log? For example, check to see if node E2UNX108 actualy started
its scheduled backup this morning at 1:36:34 AM this morning.

Alternatively, I don't see a future event for this schedule, just the
completed event. I'm also thinking that maybe the scheduled start time of
07/14/04 23:15:00 reflects the future event (tonight) and the actual start
time of 07/14/04 01:36:34 represent last night's event, and this record is
a melding of last night's and tonight's events.

Let us know what your activity log shows, and if those actual start times
synch up with this mornings activity log records.

Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
Good enough is the enemy of excellence.

ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 07/14/2004
15:24:58:





 Everything is below--thanks for looking at it!

 Kathleen






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 Curious. No, TSM is not psychic, as far as I know.

 Can you post the *complete* output from the following:

 1) dsmadmc -id=youradmin -pa= q ev * *

   (See attached file: q.ev.zip)(this one is several hundred lines
long)

 2) dsmadmc -id=youradmin -pa= q sch domain schedname

 Specify the domain and schedule name for one of the scheduled events
 showing the goofy times.


   Domain   * Schedule NameAction Start Date/Time Duration
 Period Day
    -  -- 

 -- ---
   SOLHE2UNX108.2315.- Inc Bk 01/21/04   23:15:00  1
H
 1 D  Any
 SOL.ANY


 3) dsmadmc -id=youradmin -pa= show time

   Current Date and Time on the Server
   
   07/14/04   18:23:24
   UTC (GMT) Date/Time is: 07/14/04 22:23:24
   Last Noted Date/Time is: 07/14/04 18:09:34

 Regards,

 Andy

 Andy Raibeck
 IBM Software Group
 Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
 Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
 The command line is your friend.
 Good enough is the enemy of excellence.

 ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 07/14/2004
 14:51:41:

  We've been seeing this for some time now, and haven't really done
 anything
  about it as it doesn't seem to affect actual backup success in any
way.
  But it is rather odd, and it's appearing more frequently now.  Running
a
 q
  ev command at around 17:40 on 7/14 (in other words, just a few minutes
 ago)
  brings up the following:
 
 
 
  07/14/04   23:15:00  07/14/04   01:36:34  HE2UNX108.23- HE2UNX108
  Completed
 15.SOL.ANY
  07/14/04   23:15:00   HE2UNX109.23- HE2UNX109
  Future
 15.SOL.ANY
  07/14/04   23:15:00  07/14/04   01:36:25  HE2UNX111.23- HE2UNX111
  Completed
 15.SOL.ANY
  07/14/04   23:15:00  07/14/04   01:36:29  HE2UNX112.23- HE2UNX112
  Completed
 
  Is TSM psychic?  How does it know that these events, which are
scheduled
  for several hours in the future, will complete successfully?  We're
 running
  TSM 5.2.2.0 on AIX 5.2, but I also used to see this intermittently on
a
 5.1
  version of TSM on AIX 4.3.
 
  Has anyone ever seen this, or heard what causes it?
 
  Thanks,
 
  Kathleen


 [attachment q.ev.zip deleted by Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM]

Re: slow running windows 2000 client backup

[Dave Canan]

It sounds like you may have run the trace using the TSM GUI. This
trace is only produced if you are running the TSM command line version of
the backup/archive client. Try running the trace again, this time using
dsmc.exe instead.
Also, Richard mentioned that this is a journal based backup you're
attempting, and that you are getting NpOpen timeout errors. Can you send me
the jbberror.log file that you have for this client? There were some recent
code fixes in this error on the client, that were fixed at level 5.2.2.10.
Upgrading to this level may be another thing we want to consider here.
Please let me know if you still are having problems getting the
trace.
At 08:52 AM 7/14/2004 -0400, you wrote:
I tried the trace but didn't get any output from it.  Here are the
statements I used:
testflag instrument:detail
testflag instrument:api
I see the dsminstr.report file but it has 0 bytes in it.
Ralph
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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Dave Canan
Sent: July 12, 2004 5:18 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: slow running windows 2000 client backup
Ralph - I work in IBM TSM performance support. Please get a client
instruction trace as Richard suggests for this problem and post it to
the
listserver. I can take a look at it.
At 01:16 PM 7/12/2004 -0400, you wrote:
I have a windows 2000 clients (v5 sp 4 build 2195) running tsm 5.1.7
who's incremental backup never ends.  Using the timestamps next to
message:  ANS1898I , it is taking between 5 minutes and 1 hour to parse
through 500 files.  I have 100+ other servers that take about 2/100 of
a
second to pass through 500 files.

Tried rebooting the client and ran performance monitor.  Neither helped
or showed any problems.

Here is the bad server:

07/11/2004 14:23:08 ANS1898I * Processed   194,500 files *
07/11/2004 14:25:17 ANS1898I * Processed   195,000 files *
07/11/2004 14:34:18 ANS1898I * Processed   195,500 files *
07/11/2004 15:16:52 ANS1898I * Processed   196,000 files *

Here is a typical server:

07/04/2004 21:45:02 ANS1898I * Processed   649,000 files *
07/04/2004 21:45:05 ANS1898I * Processed   649,500 files *
07/04/2004 21:45:08 ANS1898I * Processed   650,000 files *
07/04/2004 21:45:10 ANS1898I * Processed   650,500 files *

Does anyone have any ideas?  The usual questions have been asked (what
changed?) but we still come up blank.

Thanks,
Ralph
Dave Canan
TSM Performance
IBM Advanced Technical Support
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TSM Performance
IBM Advanced Technical Support
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ADIC i2000 compared to IBM 3584, also Pathlight VX

[Levinson, Donald A.]

Has anyone had the opportunity to run both the IBM 3584 library and the
ADIC Scalar i2000 library?
I am trying to decide between these two libraries when I replace my
older LTO-1 library.
 
Also has anyone integrated an ADIC Pathlight VX into their TSM
architecture and how did that go?

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Re: How to setup GUI to access NDMP TOC for DAR?

[Muhammad Sadat]

Too much informative !

By the way: in the same discussion thread can we discuss my scenario which
is going to be under implementation soon?

1- How would I configure TSM server to put its Primary and copy storage
pools on NetApp NAS? There is no Tape library in the project.

What I did was that I created a map using iSCSI Initiator on Windows 2k and
then used this added hard disk of NAS to keep my database, logs and primary
storage pool.

What I am thinking is:
that can we configure TSM directly to keep its data on NAS directly instead
of adding a NAS volume on my win2k TSM Server Operating system and then use
it?

Also can you please elaborate a little on DataMover?

Best Wishes !
Sadi
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We just tested this today.

The TSM Client Manual for Windows has more details but we did the
following:

In the dsm.opt file we added:
nasnodename = NetAppName (Celrra Name in your case)
domain.nas = all-nas
include.nas.fs MgmtClassName

From there you need to stop and start the client acceptor service.  When
you connect to the web client http://servername:1581 you will now see your
regular node name and your NAS node name.  Under the NAS node you can click
down through its file system.

A note, we use the DIRMC option in our dsm.opt files.  We registered our
NAS node and our regular client in 2 different policy domains.  Well, the
web client kept failing with a protocol error.  We looked at the
dsmerror.log and it kept saying that we had an invalid mgmt class with the
DIRMC option.  When we connect with the dsmc command line and we didn't
reciever any errors.  When we issued the command q filespace -class=nas we
then saw that the error was occuring when reading the NAS data.  So we
created the mgmtclass in the NAS domain and everything worked from there
on.  This was odd of course because I don't think the NAS backup needs the
DIRMC but that was what we found.  Everything we did was with a V5.2.3
server on Windows 2000 and the V5.2.3 client on that same windows 2000
server.

Also, when you want to restore a file to an alternate location you can only
choose a different volume.  We wanted to restore /vol/data/user1/test.txt
to /vol/data/restore.  There was no option to pick a different folder only
a different volume on the NetApp.

We ran one test to see what would happen if you tried to restore from
something that you didn't create a TOC for.  You see the filespace but when
you click on it it doesn't have anything below it.  That is what you would
expect I guess but just note that you will still see the filespace.

For production we are going to backup the server using TSM server admin
schedules.  We realize that you can backup data from a dsmc command.  We
are going to test that tomorrow but at this time it doesn't look like we
are going to use that.

Our current backups are going to an IBM 3583 with LTO1 drives directly
connected via LVD SCSI to the NetApp.  We were able to spin both drives
around 50 GB/hr each.  We are going to test a backup to Fibre 9840 soon
using an ACSLS library definition which we hope to get better throughput
on.

Robert Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've been testing NDMP backups using the datamover of an EMC Celerra
writing to a SAN attached 3494.

I needed to read between the lines in the docs a bit to figure out to set
it up, but its working.

But I don't see any info on how to setup a W2K B-A GUI so that it will read
the TOC(table of contents) and allow for DAR(direct access restore) of the
Celerra. (This seems to be how it needs to work, based on reading the
current TSM Admin Guide (for AIX).)

Do I need the NAS portion of the B-A client installed, even though the
system I have the W2K GUI on doesn't have access to the NAS portion of the
Celerra?

I've added a nasnode line to the dsm.opt, but the client still doesn't
show an entry for the Celerra in the GUI.

Any hints or pointers to pertinent docs appreciated.

Thanks, [RC]


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