migration from unix to windows

2004-07-28 Thread Francois Chevallier
I want to migrate my TSM server (5.1.6) from a aix system to a windows
system (because of the cost of disks) . Is somebody has an idea about that
? Thanks
Cordialement

François Chevallier
Parc Club du Moulin à Vent
33 av G Levy
69200 - Vénissieux
tél : 04 37 90 40 56  / 06 10 68 15 50


Novell client failed with RC 12

2004-07-28 Thread Timothy Hughes
Hello TSMer's

Last night 2 of our Novell clients nodes failed with a return code 12,
total number of objects failed were over 3,000 from each. (see server
Act log below)
Anyone ever seen  this type of occurrence before?


Thanks for any help/advice in advance!

TSM Novell client 5.2.2
Netware OS 5.1 SP6
TSM Server Version 5.2.1.3


07/28/04 05:50:27 ANE4952I (Session: 55283, Node: )  Total
number of
   objects inspected:  695,351
07/28/04 05:50:27 ANE4954I (Session: 55283, Node: )  Total
number of
   objects backed up:2,088
07/28/04 05:50:27 ANE4958I (Session: 55283, Node: )  Total
number of
   objects updated:  0
07/28/04 05:50:27 ANE4960I (Session: 55283, Node: )  Total
number of
   objects rebound:  0
07/28/04 05:50:27 ANE4957I (Session: 55283, Node: )  Total
number of
   objects deleted:  0
07/28/04 05:50:27 ANE4970I (Session: 55283, Node: )  Total
number of
   objects expired: 24
07/28/04 05:50:27 ANE4959I (Session: 55283, Node: x)  Total
number of
   objects failed:
3,436
07/28/04 05:50:27 ANE4961I (Session: 55283, Node:   Total
number of
   bytes transferred:  2.22 GB

07/28/04 05:50:27 ANR2579E Schedule MIDNIGHT in domain PRODUCTION
for node
   failed (return code 12).

07/28/04 06:11:03 ANE4952I (Session: 55270, Node: x)  Total
number of o
   bjects inspected:  332,794
07/28/04 06:11:03 ANE4954I (Session: 55270, Node: x)  Total
number of o
   bjects backed up:1,076
07/28/04 06:11:03 ANE4958I (Session: 55270, Node: x  Total
number of o
   bjects updated:  0
07/28/04 06:11:03 ANE4960I (Session: 55270, Node: x)  Total
number of o
   bjects rebound:  0
07/28/04 06:11:03 ANE4957I (Session: 55270, Node: x)  Total
number of o
   bjects deleted:  0
07/28/04 06:11:03 ANE4970I (Session: 55270, Node: x)  Total
number of o
   bjects expired:  5
07/28/04 06:11:03 ANE4959I (Session: 55270, Node: x  Total
number of o
   bjects failed:   3,431
07/28/04 06:11:03 ANE4961I (Session: 55270, Node: x)  Total
number of b
   ytes transferred: 280.00 MB
07/28/04 06:11:03 ANE4964I (Session: 55270, Node: x Elapsed
processing
   time:04:42:59
07/28/04 06:11:03 ANR2579E Schedule MIDNIGHT in domain PRODUCTION
for node
  x failed (return code 12).


Internet favorites showing up in TSM act log

2004-07-28 Thread Timothy Hughes
Hello again,

I have been seeing the following messages in the TSM Server Act log
They seem to be Internet bookmarks favorites sites. Has anyone ever see
something like this? What are the possible causes? I'm thinking they
were deleted?
How can I get these messages to stop showing up in the Server Act log?

TSM novell client version 5.2.2
Netware OS 5.1 SP1
TSM version 5.2.1.3

Thanks for any help in Advance!

Server Act log

07/28/04 05:48:01 ANE4005E (Session: 55272, Node: X)  Error
processing

'SYS:/PROJECTS/ODBTAX/REVPROJ/DMV/Conversion/Integrity R

eports/BackUp/BackUp/Emad/BackUp/Favorites/soccer/V O G E
   L S I N G E R S O C C E Rÿÿÿ 2 0 0 3.url': file
not found
07/28/04 05:48:20 ANE4005E (Session: 55272, Node: )  Error
processing
   'SYS:/PROJECTS/ODBTAX/REVPROJ/DMV/Java App
Abdul/Drive B
   ackUp/D/Abdul Qadir/bought car/eBay Motors item
18509770
   45 (Ends Aug-17-02ÿ173934 PDT ) - Volkswagen
Jetta_file
   s': file not found
07/28/04 05:48:21 ANE4005E (Session: 55272, Node: )  Error
processing
   'SYS:/PROJECTS/ODBTAX/REVPROJ/DMV/Java App
Abdul/Drive B
   ackUp/D/Abdul Qadir/bought car/eBay Motors item
18509770
   45 (Ends Aug-17-02ÿ173934 PDT ) - Volkswagen
Jetta.htm':
   file not found
07/28/04 05:48:21 ANE4005E (Session: 55272, Node: )  Error
processing
   'SYS:/PROJECTS/ODBTAX/REVPROJ/DMV/Java App
Abdul/Drive B
   ackUp/D/Abdul Qadir/pictures/car/eBay Motors item
184731
   3756 (Ends Aug-04-02ÿ162710 PDT ) - Volkswagen
Jetta_fi
   les': file not found
07/28/04 05:48:21 ANE4005E (Session: 55272, Node: )  Error
processing
   'SYS:/PROJECTS/ODBTAX/REVPROJ/DMV/Java App
Abdul/Drive B
   ackUp/D/Abdul Qadir/pictures/car/eBay Motors item
184731
   3756 (Ends Aug-04-02ÿ162710 PDT ) - Volkswagen
Jetta.ht
   m': file not found

07/26/04 04:12:07 ANE4005E (Session: 46613, Node: xxx)  Error
processi
   ng 'VOL1:/PROJECTS/SUPPORT/Angel/lucy
baker/Favorites/We
   ather/Albany,ÿNew YorkÿRadar Summaryÿby
Intellicast.url':
   file not found
07/26/04 04:12:09 ANE4005E (Session: 46613, Node:  Error
processi
   ng
'VOL1:/PROJECTS/SUPPORT/Angel/neerja/Favorites/Seattle
   Public SchoolsÿÿDev Stg Read.url': file not found

07/26/04 04:12:09 ANE4005E (Session: 46613, Node: )  Error
processi
   ng
'VOL1:/PROJECTS/SUPPORT/Angel/Raynl/Favorites/The Tren
   ton ThunderÿBaseball Team.url': file not found
07/26/04 04:12:09 ANE4005E (Session: 46613, Node: )  Error
processi
   ng
'VOL1:/PROJECTS/SUPPORT/crisk/Favorites/Brick,ÿNew Je
   rseyÿForecastÿby Intellicast.url': file not found

07/26/04 04:16:26 ANE4005E (Session: 46613, Node: )  Error
processi
   ng 'VOL1:/USERS/oocwb/Favorites/Links/ÿMy
Yahoo!.url':
file not found
07/26/04 04:16:27 ANE4005E (Session: 46613, Node: )  Error
processi
   ng 'VOL1:/USERS/oocwb/Favorites/Links/ÿYahoo!
Mail.url
   ': file not found
07/26/04 04:16:27 ANE4005E (Session: 46613, Node:   Error
processi
   ng 'VOL1:/USERS/oocwb/Favorites/Links/ÿYahoo!
News.url
   ': file not found
07/26/04 04:16:27 ANE4005E (Session: 46613, Node: )  Error
processi
   ng
'VOL1:/USERS/oocwb/Favorites/Links/ÿYahoo!.url': fi
   le not found
07/26/04 04:16:27 ANE4005E (Session: 46613, Node: )  Error
processi
   ng
'VOL1:/USERS/oocwb/Favorites/Sports/SportsNews/BBC
   SPORT  FRONT PAGEÿ.url': file not found
07/26/04 04:16:27 ANE4005E (Session: 46613, Node: )  Error
processi
   ng
'VOL1:/USERS/oocwb/oowcb/Favorites/Sports/SportsN
   ews/BBC SPORT  FRONT PAGEÿ.url': file not found


Re: Novell client failed with RC 12

2004-07-28 Thread Richard Sims
Last night 2 of our Novell clients nodes failed with a return code 12,
total number of objects failed were over 3,000 from each. (see server
Act log below) ...

You're keeping us in suspense...  You need to examine the backup log, and
perhaps also the dsmerror.log, to ascertain the detail reason for the failures.
The session-end stats provide no info about reasons.

  Richard Sims


Re: Internet favorites showing up in TSM act log

2004-07-28 Thread Troy Frank
FWIW, We're getting these same messages on one of our servers.  It started happening 
after we had a drive die in our RAID5 array.  I haven't gotten to it yet, but I'm 
hoping a vrepair will clear it up.  If you're on NSS you could try a pool 
verify/rebuild (although I'd be careful about that last one).
 
 
Troy Frank
Network Services
University of Wisconsin Medical Foundation
608.829.5384

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7/28/2004 7:57:06 AM 
Hello again,

I have been seeing the following messages in the TSM Server Act log
They seem to be Internet bookmarks favorites sites. Has anyone ever see
something like this? What are the possible causes? I'm thinking they
were deleted?
How can I get these messages to stop showing up in the Server Act log?

TSM novell client version 5.2.2
Netware OS 5.1 SP1
TSM version 5.2.1.3

Thanks for any help in Advance!

Server Act log

07/28/04 05:48:01 ANE4005E (Session: 55272, Node: X) Error
processing

'SYS:/PROJECTS/ODBTAX/REVPROJ/DMV/Conversion/Integrity R

eports/BackUp/BackUp/Emad/BackUp/Favorites/soccer/V O G E
L S I N G E R S O C C E Rÿÿÿ 2 0 0 3.url': file
not found
07/28/04 05:48:20 ANE4005E (Session: 55272, Node: ) Error
processing
'SYS:/PROJECTS/ODBTAX/REVPROJ/DMV/Java App
Abdul/Drive B
ackUp/D/Abdul Qadir/bought car/eBay Motors item
18509770
45 (Ends Aug-17-02ÿ173934 PDT ) - Volkswagen
Jetta_file
s': file not found
07/28/04 05:48:21 ANE4005E (Session: 55272, Node: ) Error
processing
'SYS:/PROJECTS/ODBTAX/REVPROJ/DMV/Java App
Abdul/Drive B
ackUp/D/Abdul Qadir/bought car/eBay Motors item
18509770
45 (Ends Aug-17-02ÿ173934 PDT ) - Volkswagen
Jetta.htm':
file not found
07/28/04 05:48:21 ANE4005E (Session: 55272, Node: ) Error
processing
'SYS:/PROJECTS/ODBTAX/REVPROJ/DMV/Java App
Abdul/Drive B
ackUp/D/Abdul Qadir/pictures/car/eBay Motors item
184731
3756 (Ends Aug-04-02ÿ162710 PDT ) - Volkswagen
Jetta_fi
les': file not found
07/28/04 05:48:21 ANE4005E (Session: 55272, Node: ) Error
processing
'SYS:/PROJECTS/ODBTAX/REVPROJ/DMV/Java App
Abdul/Drive B
ackUp/D/Abdul Qadir/pictures/car/eBay Motors item
184731
3756 (Ends Aug-04-02ÿ162710 PDT ) - Volkswagen
Jetta.ht
m': file not found

07/26/04 04:12:07 ANE4005E (Session: 46613, Node: xxx) Error
processi
ng 'VOL1:/PROJECTS/SUPPORT/Angel/lucy
baker/Favorites/We
ather/Albany,ÿNew YorkÿRadar Summaryÿby
Intellicast.url':
file not found
07/26/04 04:12:09 ANE4005E (Session: 46613, Node:  Error
processi
ng
'VOL1:/PROJECTS/SUPPORT/Angel/neerja/Favorites/Seattle
Public SchoolsÿÿDev Stg Read.url': file not found

07/26/04 04:12:09 ANE4005E (Session: 46613, Node: ) Error
processi
ng
'VOL1:/PROJECTS/SUPPORT/Angel/Raynl/Favorites/The Tren
ton ThunderÿBaseball Team.url': file not found
07/26/04 04:12:09 ANE4005E (Session: 46613, Node: ) Error
processi
ng
'VOL1:/PROJECTS/SUPPORT/crisk/Favorites/Brick,ÿNew Je
rseyÿForecastÿby Intellicast.url': file not found

07/26/04 04:16:26 ANE4005E (Session: 46613, Node: ) Error
processi
ng 'VOL1:/USERS/oocwb/Favorites/Links/ÿMy
Yahoo!.url':
file not found
07/26/04 04:16:27 ANE4005E (Session: 46613, Node: ) Error
processi
ng 'VOL1:/USERS/oocwb/Favorites/Links/ÿYahoo!
Mail.url
': file not found
07/26/04 04:16:27 ANE4005E (Session: 46613, Node:  Error
processi
ng 'VOL1:/USERS/oocwb/Favorites/Links/ÿYahoo!
News.url
': file not found
07/26/04 04:16:27 ANE4005E (Session: 46613, Node: ) Error
processi
ng
'VOL1:/USERS/oocwb/Favorites/Links/ÿYahoo!.url': fi
le not found
07/26/04 04:16:27 ANE4005E (Session: 46613, Node: ) Error
processi
ng
'VOL1:/USERS/oocwb/Favorites/Sports/SportsNews/BBC
SPORT FRONT PAGEÿ.url': file not found
07/26/04 04:16:27 ANE4005E (Session: 46613, Node: ) Error
processi
ng
'VOL1:/USERS/oocwb/oowcb/Favorites/Sports/SportsN
ews/BBC SPORT FRONT PAGEÿ.url': file not found



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Infrastructure design questions -- I need input please

2004-07-28 Thread Thach, Kevin G
My organization is developing a DR hotsite at one of our other
facilities across town, and we are considering making some radical
changes to our TSM environment.  I know there are several folks on this
list that are heavy into TSM design and I could use all the input I
can get.

Our current environment consists of the following:
*   TSM server running 5.1.7.3 on AIX.  The server is a 6-processor
6H1 w/ 8GB RAM and four 2Gb HBAs.
*   Approximately 350 clients, and backup 1.5 TB nightly
*   We use a SAN-attached 3584 with 12 LTO-1 tape drives.  60-day
retention policy for everything, so we are maintaining ~90 TB in our
local and offsite (copypool) tape pools.
*   Disk storage pools, DB, Log, are all on SAN-attached IBM Shark
disk

Our objective is to take advantage of the hotsite not only to improve
our DR methods, but to improve TSM restore times.  This is what we're
considering:

*   Purchasing approximately 120-140 TB worth of SATA disk, which
will live at our current site.  All backup data will be retained on disk
which should improve restore performance.
*   Move the tape library to the hotsite, and install a second TSM
server there as well.  We would no longer create two tape copies of our
data, but we would create a single tape copy across town.
*   The two sites will be connected by dark fiber, so the speed at
which we can deliver the data to the 3584 should not be a problem.

Is anyone doing something similar to this?  Are there any major flaws
that I'm not considering?  Any advice and input is appreciated.

Also, I realize I need to go back and brush up on my TSM manuals, but
since I don't run a two-TSM server environment, I have forgotten exactly
how that will work in the kind of situation I describe.  Would I only
use the secondary server in the event of a disaster on the primary?  Or
would the secondary server at the hotsite manage the library? Etc?  If
someone can point me in the right direction on that aspect, I'd
appreciate it.

Thanks in advance,
Kevin


Re: Infrastructure design questions -- I need input please

2004-07-28 Thread goc
everything seems fine to me
if you want to have full DR with TSM solution you have to
have another (same or similar) hardware infrastructure
to recover primary storage pools
your second TSM server would have function when something happen to the
primary storage data or cartidges or disks

-

- Original Message -
From: Thach, Kevin G [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 3:38 PM
Subject: Infrastructure design questions -- I need input please


My organization is developing a DR hotsite at one of our other
facilities across town, and we are considering making some radical
changes to our TSM environment.  I know there are several folks on this
list that are heavy into TSM design and I could use all the input I
can get.

Our current environment consists of the following:
*   TSM server running 5.1.7.3 on AIX.  The server is a 6-processor
6H1 w/ 8GB RAM and four 2Gb HBAs.
*   Approximately 350 clients, and backup 1.5 TB nightly
*   We use a SAN-attached 3584 with 12 LTO-1 tape drives.  60-day
retention policy for everything, so we are maintaining ~90 TB in our
local and offsite (copypool) tape pools.
*   Disk storage pools, DB, Log, are all on SAN-attached IBM Shark
disk

Our objective is to take advantage of the hotsite not only to improve
our DR methods, but to improve TSM restore times.  This is what we're
considering:

*   Purchasing approximately 120-140 TB worth of SATA disk, which
will live at our current site.  All backup data will be retained on disk
which should improve restore performance.
*   Move the tape library to the hotsite, and install a second TSM
server there as well.  We would no longer create two tape copies of our
data, but we would create a single tape copy across town.
*   The two sites will be connected by dark fiber, so the speed at
which we can deliver the data to the 3584 should not be a problem.

Is anyone doing something similar to this?  Are there any major flaws
that I'm not considering?  Any advice and input is appreciated.

Also, I realize I need to go back and brush up on my TSM manuals, but
since I don't run a two-TSM server environment, I have forgotten exactly
how that will work in the kind of situation I describe.  Would I only
use the secondary server in the event of a disaster on the primary?  Or
would the secondary server at the hotsite manage the library? Etc?  If
someone can point me in the right direction on that aspect, I'd
appreciate it.

Thanks in advance,
Kevin


Re: D2D vs. tape backups with TSM?

2004-07-28 Thread Rushforth, Tim
Just curious what size of file volumes are you using?  We were originally
using 25 GB, and then I listened to the Disk Only Backup Strategies
Technical Exchange where they recommended 2-4 GB volumes.

Thanks,

Tim Rushforth
City of Winnipeg

-Original Message-
From: TSM_User [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: July 27, 2004 6:41 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: D2D vs. tape backups with TSM?

Funny, we set ours down to 25% as well just to see what would happen.  This
worked but we have since set all of the ATA Pools to 50% and we just leave
them there.  Theoredically what could happen is we could be wasting twice as
much space but the fact is the volumes were going from 25% to 50% in a
matter of days and when we looked at how many volumes were between 25% and
50% in our enviornment we determined there was no need to reclaim down that
far.  From all outword signs there was no issues with reclaiming down to 25%
we just didn't think it was worth doing the extra work to get back such a
small amount of disk.  Disk is cheap, right! lol


Rushforth, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We've set ours at 25%. We are just piloting an all disk backup pool for
some clients on one of our servers and for small files on another.


List of Archived Files

2004-07-28 Thread Bill Dourado
Dear all,

Is it possible, each time I run a ARCHIVE at a users request, to
simultaneously (or maybe later) produce a list of archived files
 of that particular archive which  I can give  to the user ?

How would I go about it ?

Note that users don't have access to the Backup-Archive client
and need a list for future reference.

ITSM Server for Windows  5.2.2.0
Backup/Archive Client  for Windows  5.2.2.0


Thanks

Bill


Re: List of Archived Files

2004-07-28 Thread Doug Thorneycroft
You can run the dsmc q archive command and pipe the output to a text file.


-Original Message-
From: Bill Dourado [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 7:04 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: List of Archived Files


Dear all,

Is it possible, each time I run a ARCHIVE at a users request, to
simultaneously (or maybe later) produce a list of archived files
 of that particular archive which  I can give  to the user ?

How would I go about it ?

Note that users don't have access to the Backup-Archive client
and need a list for future reference.

ITSM Server for Windows  5.2.2.0
Backup/Archive Client  for Windows  5.2.2.0


Thanks

Bill


Re: migration from unix to windows

2004-07-28 Thread Prather, Wanda
Yes, I have done it.

There is no direct or easy way to move a TSM system from one platform to
another.
The data and the TSM data base are not in a compatible format between
Windows  AIX.

If it is practical for you, the simple solution is to start clients backing
up to the new Windows server, 
and just keep the old AIX server around until the data expires.  For that to
work you would need a new tape library, or need to SHARE your tape library
between the two TSM servers for a while.

If you want to move the data to the new Windows TSM server and you have
compatible media (same type of drives in the tape library), you can EXPORT
the data from the old server, and IMPORT it into the new server.  For this
to work, you should be sure that the new AIX TSM server is at the same level
(5.1.6) as your old server.  This is obviously takes a lot of time for you.

If you don't have compatible media, you can set up server-to-server
communications (if you have the DRM license, or TSM Extended Edition) and
send the data from one server to the other.  This takes even more time to
do.

It is a not a trivial project, no matter which way you do it.

Wanda Prather
Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory
443-778-8769

Intelligence has much less practical application than you'd think -
Dilbert/Scott Adams 


-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Francois Chevallier
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 8:16 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: migration from unix to windows


I want to migrate my TSM server (5.1.6) from a aix system to a windows
system (because of the cost of disks) . Is somebody has an idea about that
? Thanks
Cordialement

François Chevallier
Parc Club du Moulin à Vent
33 av G Levy
69200 - Vénissieux
tél : 04 37 90 40 56  / 06 10 68 15 50


Re: List of Archived Files

2004-07-28 Thread Prather, Wanda
If you run the archive from the command line (dsmc), you can just redirect
the output into a file.

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Bill Dourado
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 10:04 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: List of Archived Files


Dear all,

Is it possible, each time I run a ARCHIVE at a users request, to
simultaneously (or maybe later) produce a list of archived files
 of that particular archive which  I can give  to the user ?

How would I go about it ?

Note that users don't have access to the Backup-Archive client
and need a list for future reference.

ITSM Server for Windows  5.2.2.0
Backup/Archive Client  for Windows  5.2.2.0


Thanks

Bill


Re: Infrastructure design questions -- I need input please

2004-07-28 Thread Prather, Wanda
I would recommend using the second server only in the event of a disaster.

Since you are connected by fibre, the primary server can send the data
directly to the tape drives in the library at fibre speeds.

You don't want to try and make the 2 servers talk to each other via
server-to-server communications, 'cause that will just slow you down to
TCP/IP speeds.

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Thach, Kevin G
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 9:39 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Infrastructure design questions -- I need input please


My organization is developing a DR hotsite at one of our other
facilities across town, and we are considering making some radical
changes to our TSM environment.  I know there are several folks on this
list that are heavy into TSM design and I could use all the input I
can get.

Our current environment consists of the following:
*   TSM server running 5.1.7.3 on AIX.  The server is a 6-processor
6H1 w/ 8GB RAM and four 2Gb HBAs.
*   Approximately 350 clients, and backup 1.5 TB nightly
*   We use a SAN-attached 3584 with 12 LTO-1 tape drives.  60-day
retention policy for everything, so we are maintaining ~90 TB in our
local and offsite (copypool) tape pools.
*   Disk storage pools, DB, Log, are all on SAN-attached IBM Shark
disk

Our objective is to take advantage of the hotsite not only to improve
our DR methods, but to improve TSM restore times.  This is what we're
considering:

*   Purchasing approximately 120-140 TB worth of SATA disk, which
will live at our current site.  All backup data will be retained on disk
which should improve restore performance.
*   Move the tape library to the hotsite, and install a second TSM
server there as well.  We would no longer create two tape copies of our
data, but we would create a single tape copy across town.
*   The two sites will be connected by dark fiber, so the speed at
which we can deliver the data to the 3584 should not be a problem.

Is anyone doing something similar to this?  Are there any major flaws
that I'm not considering?  Any advice and input is appreciated.

Also, I realize I need to go back and brush up on my TSM manuals, but
since I don't run a two-TSM server environment, I have forgotten exactly
how that will work in the kind of situation I describe.  Would I only
use the secondary server in the event of a disaster on the primary?  Or
would the secondary server at the hotsite manage the library? Etc?  If
someone can point me in the right direction on that aspect, I'd
appreciate it.

Thanks in advance,
Kevin


Re: Infrastructure design questions -- I need input please

2004-07-28 Thread Stapleton, Mark
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
Behalf Of Thach, Kevin G
My organization is developing a DR hotsite at one of our other
facilities across town, and we are considering making some radical
changes to our TSM environment.  I know there are several folks on this
list that are heavy into TSM design and I could use all the input I
can get.

[snip]

Is anyone doing something similar to this?  Are there any major flaws
that I'm not considering?  Any advice and input is appreciated.

Yes, I've set up several customers with similar environments. Given that
the systems are set up properly, the only issue you could possibly have
would be bandwidth issues between the two sites.

Also, I realize I need to go back and brush up on my TSM manuals, but
since I don't run a two-TSM server environment, I have 
forgotten exactly
how that will work in the kind of situation I describe.

The primary server would use the library, while the offsite server would
run the library. Take a look at the portion of the administrative
guide on setting up virtual volumes to set up how your primary server
would access the library.

--
Mark Stapleton


Re: Infrastructure design questions -- I need input please

2004-07-28 Thread Robin Sharpe
We too, are considering expanding into a site about 8 miles away...
currently there are servers there that backup across the WAN (about 200GB
per night) and it is not a problem.  But, for DR purposes, we are
considering another TSM server and library at the new location we will
probably split the backup workload.  In the event of a disaster, we might
restore the destroyed TSM DB alongside the incumbent, and do library
sharing.

Kevin, one thing I'd reconsider is not having a second tape copy  we
have had many files become unavailable on the primary media (LTO2) for
one reason or another... if not for the copy, we would have not been able
to recover those files.

Robin Sharpe
Berlex Labs


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I would recommend using the second server only in the event of a disaster.

Since you are connected by fibre, the primary server can send the data
directly to the tape drives in the library at fibre speeds.

You don't want to try and make the 2 servers talk to each other via
server-to-server communications, 'cause that will just slow you down to
TCP/IP speeds.

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Thach, Kevin G
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 9:39 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Infrastructure design questions -- I need input please


My organization is developing a DR hotsite at one of our other
facilities across town, and we are considering making some radical
changes to our TSM environment.  I know there are several folks on this
list that are heavy into TSM design and I could use all the input I
can get.

Our current environment consists of the following:
*   TSM server running 5.1.7.3 on AIX.  The server is a 6-processor
6H1 w/ 8GB RAM and four 2Gb HBAs.
*   Approximately 350 clients, and backup 1.5 TB nightly
*   We use a SAN-attached 3584 with 12 LTO-1 tape drives.  60-day
retention policy for everything, so we are maintaining ~90 TB in our
local and offsite (copypool) tape pools.
*   Disk storage pools, DB, Log, are all on SAN-attached IBM Shark
disk

Our objective is to take advantage of the hotsite not only to improve
our DR methods, but to improve TSM restore times.  This is what we're
considering:

*   Purchasing approximately 120-140 TB worth of SATA disk, which
will live at our current site.  All backup data will be retained on disk
which should improve restore performance.
*   Move the tape library to the hotsite, and install a second TSM
server there as well.  We would no longer create two tape copies of our
data, but we would create a single tape copy across town.
*   The two sites will be connected by dark fiber, so the speed at
which we can deliver the data to the 3584 should not be a problem.

Is anyone doing something similar to this?  Are there any major flaws
that I'm not considering?  Any advice and input is appreciated.

Also, I realize I need to go back and brush up on my TSM manuals, but
since I don't run a two-TSM server environment, I have forgotten exactly
how that will work in the kind of situation I describe.  Would I only
use the secondary server in the event of a disaster on the primary?  Or
would the secondary server at the hotsite manage the library? Etc?  If
someone can point me in the right direction on that aspect, I'd
appreciate it.

Thanks 

Re: Novell client failed with RC 12

2004-07-28 Thread Timothy Hughes
Sorry for the lack of information on my earlier post.

I took a look a the Dsmerror.log and found the
following errors leading up to the 3,000 + file failures

07/28/2004 01:51:57 A transport failure has occurred.
07/28/2004 01:51:57 ANS1870E NDS transport failure FFFDFEAF has occurred.
Please contact Novell to resolve it.
07/28/2004 01:51:57 A transport failure has occured.
07/28/2004 01:51:57 ANS1870E NDS transport failure FFFDFEAF has occurred.
Please contact Novell to resolve it.
07/28/2004 01:51:57 A transport failure has occured.
07/28/2004 01:51:57 ANS1228E Sending of object
'.[Root].O=xxx.OU=.OU=xxx
.CN=WP_AMI_GENERAL' failed
07/28/2004 01:51:57 Skip current operation
Report how you got this
07/28/2004 01:51:57 ANS1870E NDS transport failure FFFDFEAF has occurred.
Please contact Novell to resolve it.
07/28/2004 01:51:57 A transport failure has occured.
07/28/2004 01:51:57 ANS1228E Sending of object
'.[Root].O=.OU=.OU=xxx.CN=ZIP CODES' failed
07/28/2004 01:51:57 Skip current operation
Report how you got this
07/28/2004 01:51:57 ANS1870E NDS transport failure FFFDFEAF has occurred.
Please contact Novell to resolve it.
07/28/2004 01:51:57 A transport failure has occured.
07/28/2004 01:51:57 ANS1228E Sending of object
'.[Root].O=.OU=.OU=xxx
.CN=xx.CN=MTA' failed
07/28/2004 01:51:57 Skip current operation
Report how you got this
07/28/2004 01:51:57 ANS1228E Sending of object
'.[Root].O=xx.OU=xx.OU=xxx.CN=xx.CN=xxx' failed
07/28/2004 01:51:57 Skip current operation
Report how you got this
07/28/2004 01:51:57 ANS1228E Sending of object
'.[Root].O=xxx.OU=.OU=xxx.CN=xx.CN=WEBACC55' failed
07/28/2004 01:51:57 Skip current operation
Report how you got this
07/28/2004 01:51:57 ANS1228E Sending of object '.[Root].O=.OU=
.OU=xxx.CN=xx.CN=POA' failed
07/28/2004 01:51:57 Skip current operation
Report how you got this
07/28/2004 01:51:57 ANS1802E Incremental backup of '.[Root]' finished with 3426
failure


I also find the following errors some seemed to be the Internet Bookmark sites
I eluded to on my other post


07/28/2004 05:49:02 ANS1228E Sending of object
'VOL1:/PROJE/SUPPORT/Angel/neerja/Favorites/Seattle Public SchoolsÿÿDev Stg
Read.url' failed
07/28/2004 05:49:02 ANS4005E Error processing
'VOL1:/PROJE/SUPPORT/Angel/neerja/Favorites/Seattle Public SchoolsÿÿDev Stg
Read.url': file not found
07/28/2004 05:49:02 ANS1228E Sending of object
'VOL1:/PROJE/SUPPORT/Angel/Ronl/Favorites/The rÿBaseball Team.url' failed
07/28/2004 05:49:02 ANS4005E Error processing
'VOL1:/PROJE/SUPPORT/Angel/Ronl/Favorites/ Baseball Team.url': file not found
07/28/2004 05:49:02 ANS1228E Sending of object
'VOL1:/PROJE/SUPPORT/crisk/Favorites/Brick,ÿNew JerseyÿForecastÿby Intellicast.url'
failed
07/28/2004 05:50:20 (TSA500.NLM 5.5 269) No data sets can be found.
07/28/2004 05:50:23 (TSA500.NLM 5.5 269) No data sets can be found.
07/28/2004 05:50:23 (TSA500.NLM 5.5 269) No data sets can be found.

Novell Tsm client version  5.2.2
Netware OS 5.1 SP6
TSM Version 5.2.1.3


Thanks again for any help on these errors!

Richard Sims wrote:

 Last night 2 of our Novell clients nodes failed with a return code 12,
 total number of objects failed were over 3,000 from each. (see server
 Act log below) ...

 You're keeping us in suspense...  You need to examine the backup log, and
 perhaps also the dsmerror.log, to ascertain the detail reason for the failures.
 The session-end stats provide no info about reasons.

   Richard Sims


Re: Novell client failed with RC 12

2004-07-28 Thread Richard Sims
...ANS1870E NDS transport failure FFFDFEAF has occurred. ...

Novell Tsm client version  5.2.2
Netware OS 5.1 SP6

Tim - The IBM site has an indicative entry on that message number.

I'm no Novell person, but from the years of postings I've seen, Novell
environment backup problems are often due to Novell software problems
(as further suggested by the IBM site item on that message).
That may well also be the case for the ANS1228E and ANS4005E messages you also
uncovered in the dsmerror.log.  (In the past, at least, the ANS4005E message has
been caused by downlevel TSANDS and/or TSA600 NLM's.)
It looks like your best avenue is to seek some Novell patches.
Netware 5.1 is also at the low end of what the 5.2.2 TSM client supports, so
you may alternately have Netware upgrade possibilities.

   Richard Sims


Re: TDP for Domino crashes Domino server

2004-07-28 Thread Eduardo Esteban
Do you have anti-virus software for Domino running?  If so, disable it
and see if this solves the problem.  Either way you should contact
Support.

Eduardo.


ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 07/27/2004
09:53:02 AM:

 Hi,

 I have a 6.5.2 Domino server running on Windows 2000 server SP4. I
 am using TDP Domino 5.1.5 and BA client 5.2.2.10.  If I try to start the
 TDP GUI or command line client Domino server freezes completly and I
have
 to restart the entire machine.  I have nothing in the logs that points
me
 to a particular process.  This is what I get from the command line
client:

 C:\Program Files\Tivoli\TSM\dominodomdsmc query domino

 IBM Tivoli Storage Manager for Mail:
 Data Protection for Lotus Domino
 Version 5, Release 1, Level 5.01
 (C) Copyright IBM Corporation 1999, 2002. All rights reserved.

 Thread=[06DC:0002-068C]
 Stack base=0x00122D68, Stack size = -3272 bytes
 PANIC: OSVBlockAddr: Bad VBlock handle (0\0)

 I have only one notes.ini on this server and I have deleted all logs and
 files (actually deleted the Tivoli dir) and resinstalled the client and
 TDP and same thing.

 Thanks for your help,

 Etienne Brodeur


Re: Novell client failed with RC 12

2004-07-28 Thread Troy Frank
If your server is NW5.1sp6 , I would also agree that sp7 is a good idea.
  I've got 20/30 of those using TSM5.2.2 just fine.


Troy Frank
Network Services
University of Wisconsin Medical Foundation
608.829.5384

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7/28/2004 10:44:19 AM 
...ANS1870E NDS transport failure FFFDFEAF has occurred. ...

Novell Tsm client version 5.2.2
Netware OS 5.1 SP6

Tim - The IBM site has an indicative entry on that message number.

I'm no Novell person, but from the years of postings I've seen, Novell
environment backup problems are often due to Novell software problems
(as further suggested by the IBM site item on that message).
That may well also be the case for the ANS1228E and ANS4005E messages
you also
uncovered in the dsmerror.log. (In the past, at least, the ANS4005E
message has
been caused by downlevel TSANDS and/or TSA600 NLM's.)
It looks like your best avenue is to seek some Novell patches.
Netware 5.1 is also at the low end of what the 5.2.2 TSM client
supports, so
you may alternately have Netware upgrade possibilities.

Richard Sims


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Linux tsmscsi 2.4.26 RedHat 9.0

2004-07-28 Thread CORP Rick Willmore
Guys/Gals

I am trying to have a linux redhat install 2.4.26 work with my TSM server.  Apparently 
I need to use the tsm driver supplied by IBM, tsmscsi.  

[EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]# ./tsmscsi
TSM device driver not available for kernel release 2.4.26
For a list of supported kernel levels, go to the IBM Tivoli Linux support web page
[EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]#

Seagate STD224000N DDS-3 DAT  Drive.  

Linux sees the drive just fine and I can tar to the drive /dev/st0.  TSM on the other 
hand... 


Any ideas?  How can I go about compiling the driver for this kernel version or do I 
have another option?

R.


Re: archiving up files with single-quotes in the filename

2004-07-28 Thread Andrew Raibeck
Not sure why it is behaving this way, though it is almost certainly due to
the single quotes (somehow). In the filelist file, try putting the file
names in double quotes, like this:

/a/path/to/a/'file1'
/a/path/to/a/'file2'

then retry the operation.

Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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The command line is your friend.
Good enough is the enemy of excellence.

ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 07/26/2004
08:07:15:

 Hello TSMers

 I am trying to perform an archive using the -filelist option on a unix
 system.

 The filelist contains a list of files of the format;

 /a/path/to/a/'file1'
 /a/path/to/a/'file2'

 unfortunatley (apparently) there is no way the filenames can be changed
 such that they do not contain single quotes...

 When issuing

 Dsmc archive -filelist=/path/to/the/filelist


 TSM generates a line of errors similar to;

 ANS1228E Sending of object '/a/path/to/*' failed
 ANS4005E Error processing '/a/path/to/*': file not found
 ANS1228E Sending of object '/a/path/to/*' failed
 ANS4005E Error processing '/a/path/to/*': file not found


 .. It seems to truncate the given path by the last element and replace
 this with '*'


 ..I have tried a few different combo's of escaping  quoting etc.. but
 no joy yet...  anyone else needed to do this before?


 Matt.



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Re: Infrastructure design questions -- I need input please

2004-07-28 Thread Thach, Kevin G
I hadn't thought of server-to-server communications slowing me down.
Good point!

Thanks to everyone for their input so far!

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Prather, Wanda
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 10:29 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Infrastructure design questions -- I need input please


I would recommend using the second server only in the event of a
disaster.

Since you are connected by fibre, the primary server can send the data
directly to the tape drives in the library at fibre speeds.

You don't want to try and make the 2 servers talk to each other via
server-to-server communications, 'cause that will just slow you down to
TCP/IP speeds.

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Thach, Kevin G
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 9:39 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Infrastructure design questions -- I need input please


My organization is developing a DR hotsite at one of our other
facilities across town, and we are considering making some radical
changes to our TSM environment.  I know there are several folks on this
list that are heavy into TSM design and I could use all the input I
can get.

Our current environment consists of the following:
*   TSM server running 5.1.7.3 on AIX.  The server is a 6-processor
6H1 w/ 8GB RAM and four 2Gb HBAs.
*   Approximately 350 clients, and backup 1.5 TB nightly
*   We use a SAN-attached 3584 with 12 LTO-1 tape drives.  60-day
retention policy for everything, so we are maintaining ~90 TB in our
local and offsite (copypool) tape pools.
*   Disk storage pools, DB, Log, are all on SAN-attached IBM Shark
disk

Our objective is to take advantage of the hotsite not only to improve
our DR methods, but to improve TSM restore times.  This is what we're
considering:

*   Purchasing approximately 120-140 TB worth of SATA disk, which
will live at our current site.  All backup data will be retained on disk
which should improve restore performance.
*   Move the tape library to the hotsite, and install a second TSM
server there as well.  We would no longer create two tape copies of our
data, but we would create a single tape copy across town.
*   The two sites will be connected by dark fiber, so the speed at
which we can deliver the data to the 3584 should not be a problem.

Is anyone doing something similar to this?  Are there any major flaws
that I'm not considering?  Any advice and input is appreciated.

Also, I realize I need to go back and brush up on my TSM manuals, but
since I don't run a two-TSM server environment, I have forgotten exactly
how that will work in the kind of situation I describe.  Would I only
use the secondary server in the event of a disaster on the primary?  Or
would the secondary server at the hotsite manage the library? Etc?  If
someone can point me in the right direction on that aspect, I'd
appreciate it.

Thanks in advance,
Kevin


Re: server scripts

2004-07-28 Thread Greg Kemp
Thanks Richard... worked great.
Regards,
Greg
On Jul 27, 2004, at 12:15 PM, Richard Sims wrote:
Is there any way to export or save server scripts? I am building a new
TSM server and want to use the same scripts I have on existing TSM
servers. Any way to avoid the hassle of having to recreate each script
on the new server. (I know a DB restore would work...but this is a new
server with new nodes) AIX server v5.2.2
Greg -  From http://people.bu.edu/rbs/ADSM.QuickFacts :
Scripts, move between servers   Do 'Query SCRIPT scriptname
FORMAT=RAW
OUTPUTFILE=' to a file,
move the
file to the other system, and
then do a
'DEFine SCRIPT ... FILE='
to take
that file as input.
Still, the best overall approach is to maintain your complex server
scripts
external to the TSM server and re-import after editing.
  Richard Sims


Re: server scripts

2004-07-28 Thread Greg Kemp
Thanks Ted.
regards
On Jul 27, 2004, at 12:50 PM, Ted Byrne wrote:
As a refinement to what Richard suggests, you might try using the
option
format=macro rather than format=raw.  In this case, where you're
essentially copying your scripts en masse between servers, you would be
able to dump all of the commands scripts from the existing server to a
file
with a single command, and re-create all of the scripts on the new
server
by processing that file with the macro command.
Take Richard's final recommendation to heart.  Maintaining the scripts
external to TSM will be worth any additional effort required; the TSM
web
interface to edit scripts leaves a lot to be desired, and there is no
undo...
Ted
At 03:15 PM 7/27/2004, you wrote:
Is there any way to export or save server scripts? I am building a
new
TSM server and want to use the same scripts I have on existing TSM
servers. Any way to avoid the hassle of having to recreate each
script
on the new server. (I know a DB restore would work...but this is a
new
server with new nodes) AIX server v5.2.2
Greg -  From http://people.bu.edu/rbs/ADSM.QuickFacts :
Scripts, move between servers   Do 'Query SCRIPT scriptname
FORMAT=RAW
OUTPUTFILE=' to a file,
move the
file to the other system, and
then do a
'DEFine SCRIPT ... FILE='
to take
that file as input.
Still, the best overall approach is to maintain your complex server
scripts
external to the TSM server and re-import after editing.
  Richard Sims


Re: TSM Client V5.2.2.10 for Windows 2000/2003

2004-07-28 Thread Cooper, Melinda
I'm currently attending a class, however, I checked my email.  As far as
I know V5.2.3. seems to work on both Windows 2000/20003.  Andrew, will
the interim fix be V5.2.3.1?

Melinda Cooper 
Senior Information Center Analyst 
Work - 425.783.4467 
Pager - 425.438.5981 


-Original Message-
From: Andrew Raibeck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 1:38 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM Client V5.2.2.10 for Windows 2000/2003

Just to close the loop with the rest of this list on this:

The doc that Melinda and Leif sent me both showed invalid verb
received
messages, which suggested IC40841. The current APAR description isn't an
exact match, but from what I knew about the fix for that APAR, it seemed
worth a shot.

There were two facets of this APAR to fix. The first facet, which is the
pertinent one here, is fixed in 5.2.3.0 (even if the README file doesn't
mention IC40841). The second facet (regarding a successful backup
message even if the file system processing stopped prematurely), will be
fixed in an upcoming interim fix, at which time IC40841 will be shown as
fixed.

It is my understanding that 5.2.3.0 resolved the problem for Leif (at
least initial testing looked promising). If and when Melinda reads this
message, perhaps she can indicate her current status as well. But I
think
this will resolve her problem, too.

So for anyone who experiences similar symptoms to those discussed
earlier
in this thread: try 5.2.3.0.

Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
Good enough is the enemy of excellence.


Re: D2D vs. tape backups with TSM?

2004-07-28 Thread TSM_User
We are using 25 GB volumes right now.  We are also still collocating the storage pools 
that use the file device class by node.  This has worked out fine for us.  Sad to 
admit but I wasn't aware of the Technical Exchange recommendation. Is there a white 
paper from that you could refer me to.

We are contemplating turning on node compression everywhere to also help reduce disk 
space.

Also, I made mention in a previous post that we were reclaiming down to 50% and that 
was fine.  Well, like always when you make a comment like that it makes you think and 
they you go look. I found that we were using around 16 TB's of ATA space in all when 
you look at the In Use numbers.  When I looked at the actual disk in use it was 
closer to 21 TB's of data.  I am currently reclaiming everything down to 40 and I plan 
to get down to 25 again.  At that point I will compare the numbers and see how much I 
can reduce the 21 TB's in use.

Also somewhat interesting information.  We have found that the I/O capabilities of the 
latest and greatest servers can really help push a lot more data to disk.  We have 
always been told by our disk vendor that the bottleneck wasn't them.  We ruled out 
many things except them.  Finally we looked at a more detailed performance monitor of 
our systems and we found that the we were killing the processor during times when we 
were pushing a lot of data to disk.  With these new servers we see migrations from 
Fibre disk to ATA disk at over 150 GB/hr.  We do have 60 TB's of ATA space though so 
we have a lot of disks to write to.


Rushforth, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just curious what size of file volumes are you using? We were originally
using 25 GB, and then I listened to the Disk Only Backup Strategies
Technical Exchange where they recommended 2-4 GB volumes.

Thanks,

Tim Rushforth
City of Winnipeg

-Original Message-
From: TSM_User [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: July 27, 2004 6:41 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: D2D vs. tape backups with TSM?

Funny, we set ours down to 25% as well just to see what would happen. This
worked but we have since set all of the ATA Pools to 50% and we just leave
them there. Theoretically what could happen is we could be wasting twice as
much space but the fact is the volumes were going from 25% to 50% in a
matter of days and when we looked at how many volumes were between 25% and
50% in our environment we determined there was no need to reclaim down that
far. From all outward signs there was no issues with reclaiming down to 25%
we just didn't think it was worth doing the extra work to get back such a
small amount of disk. Disk is cheap, right! lol


Rushforth, Tim wrote:
We've set ours at 25%. We are just piloting an all disk backup pool for
some clients on one of our servers and for small files on another.


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Re: Infrastructure design questions -- I need input please

2004-07-28 Thread TSM_User
Just a different thought why not back everything up to the a TSM server at the DR 
hotsite.  You should easily be able to backup 1.5 TB's of information in a night 
though a 1 Gb connection.  If this is new Fibre then you may have a 2 Gb connection or 
more through DWDM (or what ever that acronym is).

At the DR hotsite you don't need to make storage pool copies unless you want to 
protect yourself from media issues.

IP slowing you down, well IP definitely has more overhead than SCSI but today you 
should be able to get at least 250 GB/hr though a 1 Gb NIC worse case. So if your 
backup window is from 8:00 PM to 6:00 AM you can send 2.5 TB's of information again 
assuming you are just running a 1 Gb Fibre connection.

So no vaulting and no need for storage pool copies.

I would also put a bunch of ATA disk at the other site as well and keep all small 
files on disk.  This will also reduce the need for tapes and drives.  Your local 
server could be used for fail over in case the link goes down.

Don't flame me, this is just another idea.  I'm sure there are many people out there 
who can't believe I would suggest not running storage pool copies even if the primary 
copy is offsite but we are looking at this approach ourselves.

Prather, Wanda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would recommend using the second server only in the event of a disaster.

Since you are connected by fibre, the primary server can send the data
directly to the tape drives in the library at fibre speeds.

You don't want to try and make the 2 servers talk to each other via
server-to-server communications, 'cause that will just slow you down to
TCP/IP speeds.

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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Thach, Kevin G
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 9:39 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Infrastructure design questions -- I need input please


My organization is developing a DR hotsite at one of our other
facilities across town, and we are considering making some radical
changes to our TSM environment. I know there are several folks on this
list that are heavy into TSM design and I could use all the input I
can get.

Our current environment consists of the following:
* TSM server running 5.1.7.3 on AIX. The server is a 6-processor
6H1 w/ 8GB RAM and four 2Gb HBAs.
* Approximately 350 clients, and backup 1.5 TB nightly
* We use a SAN-attached 3584 with 12 LTO-1 tape drives. 60-day
retention policy for everything, so we are maintaining ~90 TB in our
local and offsite (copypool) tape pools.
* Disk storage pools, DB, Log, are all on SAN-attached IBM Shark
disk

Our objective is to take advantage of the hotsite not only to improve
our DR methods, but to improve TSM restore times. This is what we're
considering:

* Purchasing approximately 120-140 TB worth of SATA disk, which
will live at our current site. All backup data will be retained on disk
which should improve restore performance.
* Move the tape library to the hotsite, and install a second TSM
server there as well. We would no longer create two tape copies of our
data, but we would create a single tape copy across town.
* The two sites will be connected by dark fiber, so the speed at
which we can deliver the data to the 3584 should not be a problem.

Is anyone doing something similar to this? Are there any major flaws
that I'm not considering? Any advice and input is appreciated.

Also, I realize I need to go back and brush up on my TSM manuals, but
since I don't run a two-TSM server environment, I have forgotten exactly
how that will work in the kind of situation I describe. Would I only
use the secondary server in the event of a disaster on the primary? Or
would the secondary server at the hotsite manage the library? Etc? If
someone can point me in the right direction on that aspect, I'd
appreciate it.

Thanks in advance,
Kevin


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Re: migration from unix to windows

2004-07-28 Thread TSM_User
Depending on the network connection it is much faster to export the data and import it 
in one step. You don't use virtual volumes just he server to server communications.  
Before this all in one step using server to server was slower.  Now I believe it is 
faster.

We have migrated many nodes from one server to another as we have expanded over the 
years.  We have found that it very easy to export nodes who have 100 - 500 GB of data 
in TSM.  For nodes over 500 GB you may still be able to export if you have 1 Gb NIC's. 
 If not then you may need to cut over the large servers with new full backups.

We just got done migrating 800 or so nodes from 4 older Intel servers 3 new Intel 
Servers. The purpose wasn't just to upgrade the hardware because we could have DR'd 
onto the new systems for that.  We were moving from an all Tape solution to a solution 
where all files under 3GB would stay on ATA disk.

As Wanda stated though if both systems need to use the same library at the same time 
then you will need to set up library sharing.  In our case we use STK 9310 silo's and 
Gresham's EDT software so all our systems can easily share the libraries.

Prather, Wanda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, I have done it.

There is no direct or easy way to move a TSM system from one platform to
another.
The data and the TSM data base are not in a compatible format between
Windows  AIX.

If it is practical for you, the simple solution is to start clients backing
up to the new Windows server,
and just keep the old AIX server around until the data expires. For that to
work you would need a new tape library, or need to SHARE your tape library
between the two TSM servers for a while.

If you want to move the data to the new Windows TSM server and you have
compatible media (same type of drives in the tape library), you can EXPORT
the data from the old server, and IMPORT it into the new server. For this
to work, you should be sure that the new AIX TSM server is at the same level
(5.1.6) as your old server. This is obviously takes a lot of time for you.

If you don't have compatible media, you can set up server-to-server
communications (if you have the DRM license, or TSM Extended Edition) and
send the data from one server to the other. This takes even more time to
do.

It is a not a trivial project, no matter which way you do it.

Wanda Prather
Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory
443-778-8769

Intelligence has much less practical application than you'd think -
Dilbert/Scott Adams


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Francois Chevallier
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 8:16 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: migration from unix to windows


I want to migrate my TSM server (5.1.6) from a aix system to a windows
system (because of the cost of disks) . Is somebody has an idea about that
? Thanks
Cordialement

Frangois Chevallier
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Re: Infrastructure design questions -- I need input please

2004-07-28 Thread Roger Deschner
Don't forget to consider the possibility that your disaster could happen
the other way around - the swarms of locusts may consume your hotsite,
leaving only your primary site functional. If the only copy of the
data is over there, you're in the same boat, up the same creek, without
the same paddle, as before you started all this DR planning.

OTOH, if you aren't doing archives, and if none of the systems being
backed up to TSM are at the hotsite, the offsite backup could be
considered to be the original client node machines back at the primary
site.

Roger Deschner  University of Illinois at Chicago [EMAIL PROTECTED]
==I have not lost my mind -- it is backed up on tape somewhere.=


On Wed, 28 Jul 2004, TSM_User wrote:

Just a different thought why not back everything up to the a TSM server at the DR 
hotsite.  You should easily be able to backup 1.5 TB's of information in a night 
though a 1 Gb connection.  If this is new Fibre then you may have a 2 Gb connection 
or more through DWDM (or what ever that acronym is).

At the DR hotsite you don't need to make storage pool copies unless you want to 
protect yourself from media issues.

IP slowing you down, well IP definitely has more overhead than SCSI but today you 
should be able to get at least 250 GB/hr though a 1 Gb NIC worse case. So if your 
backup window is from 8:00 PM to 6:00 AM you can send 2.5 TB's of information again 
assuming you are just running a 1 Gb Fibre connection.

So no vaulting and no need for storage pool copies.

I would also put a bunch of ATA disk at the other site as well and keep all small 
files on disk.  This will also reduce the need for tapes and drives.  Your local 
server could be used for fail over in case the link goes down.

Don't flame me, this is just another idea.  I'm sure there are many people out there 
who can't believe I would suggest not running storage pool copies even if the primary 
copy is offsite but we are looking at this approach ourselves.

Prather, Wanda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would recommend using the second server only in the event of a disaster.

Since you are connected by fibre, the primary server can send the data
directly to the tape drives in the library at fibre speeds.

You don't want to try and make the 2 servers talk to each other via
server-to-server communications, 'cause that will just slow you down to
TCP/IP speeds.

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Thach, Kevin G
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 9:39 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Infrastructure design questions -- I need input please


My organization is developing a DR hotsite at one of our other
facilities across town, and we are considering making some radical
changes to our TSM environment. I know there are several folks on this
list that are heavy into TSM design and I could use all the input I
can get.

Our current environment consists of the following:
* TSM server running 5.1.7.3 on AIX. The server is a 6-processor
6H1 w/ 8GB RAM and four 2Gb HBAs.
* Approximately 350 clients, and backup 1.5 TB nightly
* We use a SAN-attached 3584 with 12 LTO-1 tape drives. 60-day
retention policy for everything, so we are maintaining ~90 TB in our
local and offsite (copypool) tape pools.
* Disk storage pools, DB, Log, are all on SAN-attached IBM Shark
disk

Our objective is to take advantage of the hotsite not only to improve
our DR methods, but to improve TSM restore times. This is what we're
considering:

* Purchasing approximately 120-140 TB worth of SATA disk, which
will live at our current site. All backup data will be retained on disk
which should improve restore performance.
* Move the tape library to the hotsite, and install a second TSM
server there as well. We would no longer create two tape copies of our
data, but we would create a single tape copy across town.
* The two sites will be connected by dark fiber, so the speed at
which we can deliver the data to the 3584 should not be a problem.

Is anyone doing something similar to this? Are there any major flaws
that I'm not considering? Any advice and input is appreciated.

Also, I realize I need to go back and brush up on my TSM manuals, but
since I don't run a two-TSM server environment, I have forgotten exactly
how that will work in the kind of situation I describe. Would I only
use the secondary server in the event of a disaster on the primary? Or
would the secondary server at the hotsite manage the library? Etc? If
someone can point me in the right direction on that aspect, I'd
appreciate it.

Thanks in advance,
Kevin


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