Re: DB & LOG Volume layout - new

2006-01-23 Thread Paul Zarnowski

At 06:56 AM 1/23/2006, Dirk Kastens wrote:

Paul Zarnowski schrieb:

TSM does not do round-robin allocation
of DB pages across it's volumes.  It fills up one, then works on the
next.


Are you shure? I think this only applies to log volumes.


That's the way it was explained to me years ago.  Easy enough to
test, I guess.  Start a new server with a few empty db volumes, and
watch the I/O activity.



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Re: Increasing bufpoolsize issue

2006-01-23 Thread Richard Sims

Rich -

Thanks for the actual error messages.
Whereas you are running AIX:  The ANR0358E may be a consequence of
your static /etc/security/limits values for root (or whatever user
the instance is running under), and/or the shell Unix Resource Limits
in effect for that session when the server was started.

   Richard Sims


Re: Increasing bufpoolsize issue

2006-01-23 Thread Richard Mochnaczewski
Hi ,

Here is the error I saw when trying to start up my second instance :


 
Tivoli Storage Manager for AIX-RS/6000
Version 5, Release 1, Level 1.6
 
Licensed Materials - Property of IBM
 
5698-ISE (C) Copyright IBM Corporation 1999,2002. All rights reserved.
U.S. Government Users Restricted Rights - Use, duplication or disclosure
restricted by GSA ADP Schedule Contract with IBM Corporation.
 
ANR0900I Processing options file /tsmserv/bin/dsmserv.opt.
ANR7811I Direct I/O will be used for all eligible disk files.
ANR0990I Server restart-recovery in progress.
ANR0200I Recovery log assigned capacity is 4092 megabytes.
ANR0201I Database assigned capacity is 59680 megabytes.
ANR0306I Recovery log volume mount in progress.
ANR0358E Database initialization failed: sufficient memory is not available.

When I put my bufpoolsize parameter back to it's original size, the second 
instance came up with no problem. The paging space ( total physical memory we 
have is 9Gb, paging space is 6Gb ) is barely used, only 10%.

Rich


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Rich,
 
A bit of a wild guess, but is there enough swap space to host the increased 
buffpoolsize.
 
I know that the buffpoolsize should remain in the physical memory. But if the 
second instance starts up after adding some additional swap space, you know 
that it was the bottleneck.
 
Will TSM itself allocate the buffpoolsize in the physical memory anyway?
 
regards,
Kury



Van: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager namens Richard Mochnaczewski
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Hi Everybody,

I have two instances of TSM 5.1.6 running on my AIX server . I added 1Gb of 
physical memory and increased the bufpoolsize in both instances by 512Mb . 
After the reboot, one instance came up fine and the other one complained about 
not enough memory available . Why would it complain about memory, seeing that I 
had already increased the bufpoolsize by 512M ?

Rich


Re: logpin issue

2006-01-23 Thread Richard Sims

Ashok -

Topic "Recovery Log pinning/pinned" in http://people.bu.edu/rbs/
ADSM.QuickFacts summarizes the issue and quotes IBM Technotes which
address remediation. The TSM Problem Determination Guide also has
notes on pinning/pinned.

   Richard Sims

On Jan 23, 2006, at 3:30 PM, Vats.Ashok wrote:


We are experiencing more and more logpin issue. we are running
db=160GB & log size=12GB. i t is not a particular client which will
hung up the sessions. It is at random we are on tsm 5.3.0.0 aix
5.3. ml 02
IS anybody out there experience similar issue ? What can be done to
can a hung session to avoid logpin issue.

Appreciate any input ...

Regards,
Ashok


Re: Increasing bufpoolsize issue

2006-01-23 Thread Kurt Beyers
Rich,
 
A bit of a wild guess, but is there enough swap space to host the increased 
buffpoolsize.
 
I know that the buffpoolsize should remain in the physical memory. But if the 
second instance starts up after adding some additional swap space, you know 
that it was the bottleneck.
 
Will TSM itself allocate the buffpoolsize in the physical memory anyway?
 
regards,
Kury



Van: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager namens Richard Mochnaczewski
Verzonden: ma 1/23/2006 21:34
Aan: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Onderwerp: [ADSM-L] Increasing bufpoolsize issue



Hi Everybody,

I have two instances of TSM 5.1.6 running on my AIX server . I added 1Gb of 
physical memory and increased the bufpoolsize in both instances by 512Mb . 
After the reboot, one instance came up fine and the other one complained about 
not enough memory available . Why would it complain about memory, seeing that I 
had already increased the bufpoolsize by 512M ?

Rich


Increasing bufpoolsize issue

2006-01-23 Thread Richard Mochnaczewski
Hi Everybody,

I have two instances of TSM 5.1.6 running on my AIX server . I added 1Gb of 
physical memory and increased the bufpoolsize in both instances by 512Mb . 
After the reboot, one instance came up fine and the other one complained about 
not enough memory available . Why would it complain about memory, seeing that I 
had already increased the bufpoolsize by 512M ? 

Rich


logpin issue

2006-01-23 Thread Vats.Ashok
We are experiencing more and more logpin issue. we are running db=160GB & log 
size=12GB. i t is not a particular client which will hung up the sessions. It 
is at random we are on tsm 5.3.0.0 aix 5.3. ml 02 
IS anybody out there experience similar issue ? What can be done to can a hung 
session to avoid logpin issue.

Appreciate any input ...

Regards,
Ashok


Re: What does "updated" really mean?

2006-01-23 Thread Tab Trepagnier
Richard,

Thanks.  I was searching for the message number because I was worring that
searching for "updating" would be like searching Google for "Windows".

In reality, when I searched the V 5.1 Windows client manual for "updating"
I got exactly 8 hits.  The first hit was the reference cited by the
replies.

Tab




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Tab - That's documented in the client manuals, under topic
   "Displaying backup processing status ".

   Richard Sims


Re: What does "updated" really mean?

2006-01-23 Thread Richard Sims

Tab - That's documented in the client manuals, under topic
  "Displaying backup processing status ".

  Richard Sims


Re: AW: [ADSM-L] What does "updated" really mean?

2006-01-23 Thread Tab Trepagnier
Thomas,

Thanks very much.  That is what I would expect given our work this 
weekend.

And although I've checked Richard's site before, I simply forgot to check 
it today.  Monday morning and all that...

Tab




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Always first have a look at Richards fabulous TSM site: 
http://people.bu.edu/rbs/ADSM.funcdir
Objects Updated "Total number of objects updated"
element in a backup statistics 
summary.
The Objects Updated field displays 
the
number of files or directories 
whose
contents did not change but whose
attributes or ACLs had changed. 
The
server updates its information 
about the
attributes or ACLs without the 
objects
themselves having to be sent to 
the
server.

HTH
Thomas Rupp

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von 
Tab Trepagnier
Gesendet: Montag, 23. Jänner 2006 16:56
An: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Betreff: [ADSM-L] What does "updated" really mean?


Server: TSM 5.1.10.0 on AIX 5.2;  client: TSM 5.1.7.0 on Windows 2003

I'm trying to understand what the client is reporting in the session
summary when it reports:
"01/23/2006 08:20:23  ANE4958I (Session: 47866, Node: ILOX-FS1)  Total
number of objects updated:673,012"

I've checked  the product manuals, message manuals, IBM software support
site, and the forum site.

What exactly is being "updated?"

We made some changes to that server over the weekend so the presence of
the message and its non-zero count is no surprise.  But I'd still like to
understand exactly what TSM is trying to tell me.

Thanks.

Tab Trepagnier
TSM Administrator
Laitram, L.L.C.


Re: What does "updated" really mean?

2006-01-23 Thread Kurt Beyers
Tab,
 
They tell the following in the technote 
http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=663&context=SSGSG7&q1=Total+number+objects+updated&uid=swg21154305&loc=en_US&cs=utf-8&lang=en
 
Updating-->. Indicates that only the file meta data is sent, if file attributes 
change and not the data itselfUpdating-->. Indicates that only the file meta 
data is sent, if file attributes change and not the data itself
 
best regards,
Kurt



Van: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager namens Tab Trepagnier
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Aan: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Onderwerp: [ADSM-L] What does "updated" really mean?



Server: TSM 5.1.10.0 on AIX 5.2;  client: TSM 5.1.7.0 on Windows 2003

I'm trying to understand what the client is reporting in the session
summary when it reports:
"01/23/2006 08:20:23  ANE4958I (Session: 47866, Node: ILOX-FS1)  Total
number of objects updated:673,012"

I've checked  the product manuals, message manuals, IBM software support
site, and the forum site.

What exactly is being "updated?"

We made some changes to that server over the weekend so the presence of
the message and its non-zero count is no surprise.  But I'd still like to
understand exactly what TSM is trying to tell me.

Thanks.

Tab Trepagnier
TSM Administrator
Laitram, L.L.C.


AW: [ADSM-L] What does "updated" really mean?

2006-01-23 Thread Thomas Rupp
Always first have a look at Richards fabulous TSM site: 
http://people.bu.edu/rbs/ADSM.funcdir
Objects Updated "Total number of objects updated"
element in a backup statistics summary.
The Objects Updated field displays the
number of files or directories whose
contents did not change but whose
attributes or ACLs had changed.  The
server updates its information about the
attributes or ACLs without the objects
themselves having to be sent to the
server.

HTH
Thomas Rupp

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Tab 
Trepagnier
Gesendet: Montag, 23. Jänner 2006 16:56
An: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Betreff: [ADSM-L] What does "updated" really mean?


Server: TSM 5.1.10.0 on AIX 5.2;  client: TSM 5.1.7.0 on Windows 2003

I'm trying to understand what the client is reporting in the session
summary when it reports:
"01/23/2006 08:20:23  ANE4958I (Session: 47866, Node: ILOX-FS1)  Total
number of objects updated:673,012"

I've checked  the product manuals, message manuals, IBM software support
site, and the forum site.

What exactly is being "updated?"

We made some changes to that server over the weekend so the presence of
the message and its non-zero count is no surprise.  But I'd still like to
understand exactly what TSM is trying to tell me.

Thanks.

Tab Trepagnier
TSM Administrator
Laitram, L.L.C.


What does "updated" really mean?

2006-01-23 Thread Tab Trepagnier
Server: TSM 5.1.10.0 on AIX 5.2;  client: TSM 5.1.7.0 on Windows 2003

I'm trying to understand what the client is reporting in the session
summary when it reports:
"01/23/2006 08:20:23  ANE4958I (Session: 47866, Node: ILOX-FS1)  Total
number of objects updated:673,012"

I've checked  the product manuals, message manuals, IBM software support
site, and the forum site.

What exactly is being "updated?"

We made some changes to that server over the weekend so the presence of
the message and its non-zero count is no surprise.  But I'd still like to
understand exactly what TSM is trying to tell me.

Thanks.

Tab Trepagnier
TSM Administrator
Laitram, L.L.C.


Re: dsmadmc keyboard input problem

2006-01-23 Thread Helder Garcia
Same applies for "Enter your user id:" prompt, backspace behaves
differently than command line entering.

On 1/22/06, Jurjen Oskam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 21, 2006 at 02:16:07PM -0600, Mike wrote:
>
> > Have you tried changing your terminal emulation and the TERM variable?
>
> Yes, I have, as I explicitly mentioned. The problem is not that Backspace
> does or doesn't work, the problem is that with the *same* settings, it
> works *differently* depending on what kind of input dsmadmc expects.
>
> And this wouldn't even be a problem if dsmadmc rejected input like "nyes"
> or "y^Hn".
>
> --
> Jurjen Oskam
>


--
Helder Garcia


Re: DB & LOG Volume layout - new

2006-01-23 Thread Dirk Kastens

Hi,

Paul Zarnowski schrieb:

TSM does not do round-robin allocation
of DB pages across it's volumes.  It fills up one, then works on the
next.


Are you shure? I think this only applies to log volumes.

--
Viele Gruesse,

Dirk Kastens
Universitaet Osnabrueck, Rechenzentrum (Computer Center)
Albrechtstr. 28, 49069 Osnabrueck, Germany
Tel.: +49-541-969-2347, FAX: -2470


Re: ANR0102E imarins.c(2246)

2006-01-23 Thread Henrik Wahlstedt
http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=663&context=SSGSG7&q1=insert
ing+row+in+table+%22Object.Ids%22&uid=swg1IC47516&loc=en_US&cs=utf-8&lan
g=en
 
//Henrik

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Subject: ANR0102E imarins.c(2246)

Hi

I have reorganize my TSM DB yesterday,
and now I get this error:

ANR0102E imarins.c(2246): Error 1 inserting row in table "Object.Ids".
(SESSION: 1804)
ANR0530W Transaction failed for session 1804 for node CDKALB014 (WinNT)
- internal server error detected. (SESSION: 1804) 



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